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April 15, 2020

Open Thread 2020-30

Non-Covid news & views ...

Posted by b on April 15, 2020 at 16:51 UTC | Permalink

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Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 18 2020 10:12 utc | 205

I am Amurkin, 75 in June, and I've been avoiding all US health-care for around 20 years, except acute care for specific things (three root canals, a basal-cell carcinoma on my back, new glasses), and I attribute my relative good health to that. If I took advice, I'd be on various prescription drug regimens that would make me feel like shit and cost a bundle, plus having to sit around in doctor's offices all the time. My three dead brothers all were under lots of US health care and they all told me I had to manage my own care, so I do. Saved a boatload of money too. The day is long gone when health-care here was good for you, especially if you are old.

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 18 2020 11:10 utc | 201

Bemildred | Apr 18 2020 11:10 utc | 206 Wally and Mrs Wally concur. The basic surgery, hernia, dentistry, glasses - these are ok, but the "medical" is pretty much quacks pushing "medicines" - pretty much a racket to milk medicare etc.

Posted by: Walter | Apr 18 2020 11:50 utc | 202

Follow-up @204

There were some reasons to think that Lisa Nandy was connected to Sir Keir Starmer before the Labour Leadership election.

Nandy standing was intended to split the women's vote from Rebecca Long-Bailey (by giving a Blairite alternate to the left's Long-Bailey) and help secure the election for Starmer.

Now Matt Kennard (an independent Journalist) tweets:

"Three months after Lisa Nandy resigned from Corbyn’s shadow cabinet in June 2016, she was rewarded with a £5,000 donation from Israel lobbyist Sir Trevor Chinn.

She’s now Shadow Foreign Secretary. How the game works."

Trevor Chinn is the same Israeli lobbyist who donated £50,000 to Starmer's campaign

Posted by: ADKC | Apr 18 2020 12:55 utc | 203

Posted by: Walter | Apr 18 2020 11:50 utc | 207

The glasses business is very rackety too, but not able to jack the price up as much. And you can always make do. My dentist is old school and I trust her. Endodontist not so much, but at least competent at what he does. The cosmetic surgeon who did the carcinoma was sharp as a tack, dermatologist who referred me to him was into Scientology. You just never know ...

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 18 2020 13:28 utc | 204

Bemildred #206

The day is long gone when health-care here was good for you, especially if you are old.

I'll drink to that. Same on this island. If I followed the conventional medical advice I would have died at 20, then fifty and again more recently. Fortunately I have had a life guided by magnificent therapists from the fringe and my own direct research and practice and a powerful sixth sense. My health is not a thing to delegate entirely to any other but to seek advice, weigh up the options and make least risk decisions that remain within one's control.

I am fully aware that there are many who are denied that blessing but on my path it has worked well and works well for those close to me. To clarify on my initial statement, I wont be seeking any vaccine from anywhere. I gather an antibody transfusion might suffice but even then it would seem logical to have an antibody test first to see if I have had the bug without any symptoms whatsoever. I suspect that is the case already. Its way too early to go chasing a vaccine for yesterdays version of a fast mutating virus.

One read of the Whitney Webb story at Unz Review is enough to indicate that vaccine should be given a wide berth regardless of your country.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 19 2020 8:33 utc | 205

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