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April 08, 2020

Jared Kushner's Anti-Virus Priorities

April 3: Jared Kushner Faces Backlash for Saying ‘Our Stockpile’ Is Not Meant to Be ‘States’ Stockpiles’


April 7: Hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word


April 8: US Department of Defense give 1 million masks to IDF for coronavirus use


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What with the worldwide PPE shortages and Trump ordering seizures of Canada-destined shipments from 3M, what's a poor vassal to do? This days after Canada officially declares the NAFTA 'free-trade' deal ratified...

Ottawa Looks to Kushner, Other US Trade Officials to Resolve Medical Equipment Dispute

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2020 12:32 utc | 101

Preparations for a genocide in Brazil. Evangelists applying the "let God sort them out option".

Posted by: Mina | Apr 9 2020 13:04 utc | 102

Africans and Asians most targeted (UK figures)

Posted by: Mina | Apr 9 2020 14:32 utc | 103

An interesting Covid summary

The COVID-19 Pandemic: A Summary
Curious about COVID-19? Expert pathologist Fred Plapp summarizes the current state of play…


""SARS-CoV has a R0 of 4, meaning that each infected person spreads the disease to an average of  four others, and a case fatality rate of 9.5 percent. The last known case of SARS-CoV was detected in September 2003.

Nine years later, MERS-CoV – which causes Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) – emerged in Saudi Arabia.  Explosive nosocomial transmission has been linked to single super-spreaders of infection.   The case fatality rate is very high at 35 percent.

SARS-CoV-2 is a betacoronavirus that shares 79 percent of its genetic sequence with SARS-CoV.  There are eight genes for accessory proteins that inhibit host defenses.

The sequence of SARS-CoV-2 was published by Chinese scientists on January 11, 2020

US Government officials also purposely delayed the release of testing kits because they believed that virus hysteria was being promoted by their political opponents in the run-up to this year’s federal election – and that testing would increase the number of cases and provide more ammunition for those political rivals.

Additionally, lopinavir/ritonavir (Kaletra), a mixture of two HIV protease inhibitors, is being trialed in patients with COVID-19."" 

Posted by: financial matters | Apr 9 2020 16:02 utc | 104

People tend to think that MMT is all about the money.  Thinking perhaps in terms of New Keynesian type stimulus.

Real MMT:  It's not about the money, it's about the resources

""It might seem, as we observe the U.S. government “instantly” generating $2 trillion new dollars for direct payments and grants to people and businesses, that the coronavirus pandemic has shed a new light on the authenticity (and necessity) of modern money theory (MMT). But that light, if it is being shed at all, is illuminating instead the dramatic limitations of the “standard money theory” we insist on applying to the exigencies of an unfolding modern society (including, but not limited to, how to deal with pandemics).

Which brings us, of course, full circle back to what we should be seeing and understanding in the federal government’s response to the pandemic: We are not talking about (and shouldn’t be fretting about) collecting $2.2 trillion in new taxes—now, or ever. Just as we won’t be talking about collecting $100 trillion in new taxes when we get serious about confronting the climate crisis. What we’re talking about, instead, is employing trillions of dollars’ worth of real resources—labor, inventiveness, and materiel—to accomplish the things that private enterprise and finance cannot find a profit in doing, but which need to be done, nevertheless.""

Posted by: financial matters | Apr 9 2020 16:17 utc | 105

Two newspapers that played a leading role in the smear campaign against Jeremy Corbyn are being put into liquidation.

The Jewish Chronicle and Jewish News blame the Corona virus for their financial problems, but that sounds unconvincing. Newsagents are not forced to shut in the UK, and very many people now have more time to read if they have to stay at home. The effect of Corona on businesses is temporary anyway.

It's more likely that the two newspapers lost a lot of credibility - and therefore readers - by siding with the political establishment in the hysterical accusations of antisemitism. They ran a joint front page editorial warning about what they called "the existential threat to Jewish life in this country that would be posed by a Jeremy Corbyn-led government" and "Corbynite contempt for Jews and Israel".

That must have alienated a large number of readers who could see for themselves that the accusations were pure propaganda that had nothing to do with reality.

Posted by: Brendan | Apr 9 2020 17:03 utc | 106

Global Times blasts Outlaw US Empire COVID response:

"The vicious virus, the polarization of US politics and deepening international divergences have plunged humanity into unprecedented uncertainties. A jumbled, irresponsible and impulsive US greatly enhanced the risks the world is facing.

"What's worse, the US did not engage in any reflection, and the inability of its government was only attributed to partisanship. The anti-China element in its public opinion has been brewing with the instigation of the administration and some politicians. This has greatly crumbled the US' self-correction ability.

"The harm on humanity caused by a virus, no matter how frightening it is, only remains at the physical level. But the US destruction at the political level is amplifying this crisis that endangers global governance. Even if the pandemic is put under control, humanity has to face the turbulence post-pandemic. Such dual uncertainties have gone beyond the imagination of people even with their decades of living experience."

IMO and contrary to the editorial's conclusion, "populist politics" had nothing to do with Trump's beyond mediocre response; rather, it's all been ideological beginning with the utter lack of preparation.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 9 2020 17:22 utc | 107

@Scott from Chitown #87
The PCR tests were only 71% accurate - for many reasons including that they require some significant amount of the actual nCOV virus to be present.
PCR tests are an outgrowth of the genetics industry - they use a genetics industry method to amplify the genetic code in the sample so that it is a high enough amount to be easily detectable.
You can see the problems with this approach: someone who literally just got infected, for example, isn't going to have a lot of nCOV virus anywhere. A nasal swab when the nCOV is in the lower respiratory tract won't detect it. A blood sample might not get it, particularly if it isn't at a full blown virusemia stage.
It also wouldn't really tell you if the person was infected but has since recovered since the virus won't be present anymore.
PCR tests are really mostly good for identifying people who are full blown infected, at that moment in time.
That's why China is doing the 2 PCR tests days apart - they hope that the time lag plus 2 different tests will reduce the false positive rate. If the 71% figure is accurate, it will but only to 92% accuracy, assuming the other factors aren't major. (29% false negative times 29% false negative is about 8%).

Posted by: c1ue | Apr 9 2020 17:24 utc | 108

Hydroxchloroquinine is toxic if combined with metformin. Diabetics who take it beware.
Note the link above also lists all of the known drug interactions of HCH with other drugs - there are 332 total of which 59 are considered "major".

Posted by: c1ue | Apr 9 2020 17:27 utc | 109

Trailer Trash @ 73


What’s driving this reassessment is a baffling observation about Covid-19: Many patients have blood oxygen levels so low they should be dead. But they’re not gasping for air, their hearts aren’t racing, and their brains show no signs of blinking off from lack of oxygen.

The patients' hemoglobin may not be delivering oxygen to their cells:


Posted by: pogohere | Apr 9 2020 17:51 utc | 110

This behaviour you list here b is just a small prelude to the yuuuge brawl that is emerging over vaccines for the covid-19 infection.

My old adversary from the right bank side of the tracks, Amazing Polly is also rounding up the names of the key players from the Democrat side of the machine.

If these carpetbaggers can get just $50 a shot for every COMPULSORY vaccine or antibody injection throughout the western world and restrict all personal travel to 'those with a certificate', they will make a motza. Gates learned a lot from selling small cost software bundles to every user.

To hell with Kushner and his toady military thugs, here comes the BIG surprise.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 8 2020 10:00 utc | 10


You are right. When I twigged on this ID2020 business a light bulb went on as to why Bill Gates has used his billions to crown himself the global health czar. Of course, it is the opp'y to create digital identities via vaccines. The technology is there. it is really frightening. Kissinger is part of this.

A big s--- show is in the making.
Will the people take the streets to fight mandatory universal vaccination/ID creation? How will we fight this?
I can only hope that the virus strikes down Bill, Melinda, Henry the K, Pence, Fauci and Birz and the rset of the ID2020 crew.

I have started following Amazing Polly (Polly St. George)---trying to figure out just who and what she is. Obviously the woman is extremely intelligent. I like the way she presents her info---more or less in a "What do *you* think might be going on here?" I see no issues with the results of her research, which looks pretty extraordinary to me. The connections she digs up seem to be significant and damning.

Yet I am hesitant to send links for her videos to friends because of the Qanon thing, which I don't understand, and the hero worship of Trump, who she thinks is really onto what the health globalists are planning and is going to go to bat for the The People. I am not a sufferer of TDS, but I doubt that Trump is going to be the one to hold the line on ID2020, corporate profits made from and with the Covid pandemic, etc. Her unskeptical positive statements re Trump can vitiate her material, although it shouldn't really (doesn't for me).

Would love to get more informed perspectives on Amazing Polly. She also seemed to be on top of the Epstein story well before others. Her info on all three Maxwell sisters was super, and I didn't see any other outlets going into the AI connection of the Epstein-Harvard/MIT-Maxwell-Mossad shackup to the same extent.

Posted by: Really?? | Apr 9 2020 18:15 utc | 111

Uncle T @10
this link:
"My old adversary from the right bank side of the tracks, Amazing Polly is also rounding up the names of the key players from the Democrat side of the machine."

links to a message "This video is private."

Posted by: Really?? | Apr 9 2020 18:17 utc | 112

Stonebird @ 30

The Cargo Cult segment of the 1963 documentary "Mondo Cane" can be viewed here (it is the last segment of the film):

Posted by: Really?? | Apr 9 2020 18:51 utc | 113

Claude Coburn used to say never believe anything until it has been officially denied. The commander of the National Center for Medical Intelligence says his outfit never issued an official report on coronavirus in November 2019. How's that for a nondenial denial?

Posted by: lysias | Apr 9 2020 19:00 utc | 114

Juliania @37:

For homemade masks some upholstery fabrics are a good option.
These tend to be heavier than average cotton, but not so heavy as to be stiff, so can be sewn to fit the face quite easily and maintain the mask's shape. Also, quite a lot of upholstery fabrics are some kind of damask or have a textured weave, which increases the thickness without making the cloth too stiff or heavy to sew. Some old valances that I decided to keep instead of throwing out are a perfect weight for sewn masks. You can use thin ribbon or even cut-up shoelaces for the ear loops. In fact, you can make a creditable mask with just a stapler, if you don't feel like wielding a needle and thread.

Posted by: Really?? | Apr 9 2020 19:02 utc | 115

If 80% of people tested for COVID-19 have negative results, that means they have not come in contact with it. The test is to find if their blood contains antibodies to the virus, indicating exposure to it.

Posted by: Jen | Apr 8 2020 20:40 utc | 63

I think there is a difference between tsting for current presence of the virus and testing for antibodies to the virus. The latter is achieved by serological testing. SErological testing of the population would indicate how many people have had contact with the virus in the past and have created antibodies. Thus it would be a good indicator of the level of resistance already present in the population, and also (I believe the argument is) a better measure of mortality than deaths / population.

A number of epidemeology experts, including Dr. Knut Wittkowski, formerly of Rockefeller U, and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, of Stanford, have stated that serological testing must be done in order to get a meaningful *denominator* for a reaslistic mortality rate (that is, a sample population would be tested and the results extrapolated to the whole pop.). Interviews with both men in which they discuss this are available online.

Posted by: Really?? | Apr 9 2020 19:37 utc | 116

"You can buy zinc sulphate at any pharmacy or nutrition store -- IF THEY HAVE ANY IN STOCK. My suggestion about Amazon was based my own experience. Besides, why would I go to one or more stores looking to buy zinc WHICH MIGHT CAUSE ME TO GET THE DISEASE from some millenial cashier?

Posted by: Don Wills | Apr 9 2020 0:30 utc | 85"

Not knowing anything about different types of zinc supplements I did some searching and read the following at The Chicago Tribune, "The Best Zinc Supplements":
Zinc sulfate is a water-soluble form, which means it is readily absorbed by the body. However, this isn't the best choice for increasing zinc levels.
Zinc acetate is a form most often used to shorten the duration of the common cold, and typically comes in a lozenge.
Zinc picolinate is the form that the body absorbs the best, which makes this a common choice for treating zinc deficiencies and for pregnant women. This form is "chelated," which means it's attached to picolinic amino acids to help it pass easier into your intestines for absorption.
Zinc gluconate is another form of chelated zinc. It's often found in nasal zinc sprays and is sometimes called Orazinc. This form is also easily absorbed by the body.
[Etc. more types of zinc explained]

I went to the local Walgreen's and found zinc gluconate, 50 mgs., on the vitamin shelf. And Cold-Eeze homeopathic lozenges, made by Mylan Corp in West Virginia, on the cold medicine shelf (previously I had gotten some of these at Walmarts, which seem to have pretty good pharmacies, in my limited experience).
The active ings. in the latter are:
zinc gluconate
Sambucus nigra
Avena sativa
Rosa canina
Echinacea purpurea

Besides the zinc these are homeopathic remedies.
. . .
I have a sore throat so I am using the lozenges and some other supplements. I hope I haven't caught the covid.

Posted by: Really?? | Apr 9 2020 20:08 utc | 117

FU Bernie, I condemn the man most capable to have led the way to a dignified humanitarian response, who instead chose to walk away in humanities hour of high promise, high need and abysmal despair.

Bernie you put party before people in the time of their greatest need.

Bernie you raised their hope, you owed them your allegiance as they gave their allegiance to you.

Bernie, You turned your back.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 9 2020 5:17 utc | 90

Agree. Thanks.
Hate to clog thread with "I agree" type comments, but I just don't get why Bernie did not pick up the gauntlet to be the public face and voice of outrage and mourning for needlessly dead citizens, and demand for investigations and answers from our current regime, as to WTF their priorities are. Has Bernie now retreated into private life?

I reckon you are right in your suppositions as to how many Americans are dying: choosing to die because they cannot afford to live, in our dollar-denominated medical system. And many of those may not be as well placed as many here to inform themselves as to self-care and self-medication. I am on my own and have suspected a few times that I might have the virus. So far so good. But if I get it I am telling no one, family etc. That is, I will not go to a hosp to get tested and maybe pick up a bacterium there and get a bill for $10,000. Maybe I have already had it. Who knows? I self-medicate, and that's it. This is one reason why I suspect we don't have any reliable statistics in the USA. Our medical system contains too many disincentives to provide info.

Posted by: Really?? | Apr 9 2020 20:21 utc | 118

CCD DSU numbers for April 9, 2020

New York has blown past Spain and Italy, now: 3635 nCOV mortality per 10M population vs. Spain 3310 and Italy 3006

Other European countries ascending the scale rapidly: Belgium at 2213, France at 1875, Netherlands at 1409, UK at 1218

Germany at 303 vs. US at 497; US without New York is 298

A look at New York's nCOV mortality vs. Spain and Italy: New York doesn't seem to be letting up

Was Italian and Spanish health care really a factor, given these results?

Posted by: c1ue | Apr 9 2020 21:23 utc | 119

Measles roaring back due to COVID-19 focus Nature article source

Article adds an interesting data point: Ukraine had a huge anti-vax movement starting in 2008. Measles vaccination fell from 95% to 31% from 2008 to 2017 - at which time a measles outbreak occurred: 115,000 cases, "only" 41 deaths.

Posted by: c1ue | Apr 9 2020 21:26 utc | 120

c1ue 120

You are comparing a city or state to countries. For comparison New York would need to be compared to other outbreak cities or provinces.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 9 2020 21:32 utc | 121

@Peter AU1 #122
New York State - which is what I refer to - has 19.4 million residents. This is larger than Belgium, Netherlands, or almost all of Scandinavia put together. New York State is 50% greater area than South Korea with 40% of SK population.
Furthermore, I list all data in terms of a fixed reference unit of population.
So: NY state population is on par with or greater than many nations.
NY area is greater than many nations and density is lower.
Thus while I understand what you are trying to say, ultimately your suggestion is flawed and contributes nothing.
You are welcome to create your own data and format it however you desire.

Posted by: c1ue | Apr 10 2020 0:06 utc | 122

Likes of worldometer list stats per million ect.
You however compare outbreak an out break area of the us to entire countries. A big and misleading difference.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2020 0:12 utc | 123

pogohere @ 111

Chinese scientists explain dimming in the lungs of mildly affected coronavirus


The intensification of inflammatory processes and the appearance of frosted glass in the lungs of patients, the test result for which coronavirus turned out to be positive, is due to damage in patients with hemoglobin, an important transport protein in humans. This conclusion was made by Chinese scientists.

A study by Wenzhong Liu of Sichuan University and Hualan Li of Yibin University shows that the SARS-CoV-2 virus can attack human red blood cells by binding to hemoglobin molecules. This leads to a disruption of oxygen transport through the bloodstream, says referring to the publication of scientists in the preprint archive ChemRxiv.

Hemoglobin is a complex metal-containing protein that can reversibly bind to oxygen. At the center of each hemoglobin molecule is heme, or the porphyrin core containing a ferrous atom: it is able to bind four O2 molecules. Collecting oxygen in the lungs, red blood cells with the help of hemoglobin transfer it to various organs and parts of the body.

SARS-CoV-2 viral particles do not interact directly with red blood cells. A number of non-structural (not part of the viral capsid) proteins encoded by viral RNA are responsible for this. Such proteins facilitate the fixation and replication of the virus in the host organism, blocking cellular mechanisms and biochemical pathways.

Chinese scientists have found that some of these non-structural viral proteins penetrate red blood cells and displace iron from porphyrin nuclei. This deprives the red blood cells of the ability to transport oxygen, which, in turn, leads to increased inflammatory processes in the lungs, hypoxemia, the development of symptoms of acute respiratory distress symptom (ARDS) and multiple organ oxygen deficiency.

Posted by: p | Apr 10 2020 6:46 utc | 124

Further to 125

Chinese researchers have explained the negative mechanism of SARS-CoV-2 and the associated effectiveness of the two drugs


A study by Wenzhong Liu of Sichuan University and Hualan Li of Yibin University shows that the SARS-CoV-2 virus can attack human red blood cells by binding to hemoglobin molecules. This leads to disruption in the transport of oxygen through the bloodstream. An article by scientists has been uploaded to the ChemRxiv preprint archive .

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The viral protein binding mechanism described by Li and Liu may underlie the phenomenon that children are more likely to tolerate coronavirus infection. As mentioned above, viral proteins cause iron dissociation through interaction with the hemoglobin beta chain, which is a structural part of ΗbA - normal adult hemoglobin. In children, the so-called fetal hemoglobin ΗbF prevails in the blood, which does not contain beta chains and is probably invulnerable to viral proteins.

Perhaps a similar feature in the structure of hemoglobin causes a low incidence in some countries in Africa. In regions where malaria is prevalent, there is a high proportion of people with thalassemia, a genetic disease whose carriers synthesize mutant hemoglobin without beta chains.

Posted by: pogohere | Apr 10 2020 6:50 utc | 125

124 should have read. ...You however compare an outbreak area in the us to entire countries....

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 10 2020 6:57 utc | 126

JohninMK @ 45

The National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) has debunked the ABC article you linked to, so I (Ghost Ship @ 47) and occupatio @ 65 were correct in our "assessments" though occupatio @ 65 did explain with greater clarity why the report should be ignored.

BTW, RT makes the point that if a November report did mention COVID-19 then that supports the claim that it's the product of human engineering because nobody but the US IC knew what it was before it was identified at the end of December.

The disproved ABC story not only cast the Trump administration in a bad light, but also raised questions about the timeline of what appears to be the worst health crisis in a generation. Given the time needed to collect and vet intelligence, it implied that the US military saw the disaster coming weeks before the virus causing Covid-19 was even identified by China as a new pathogen, giving fodder to those who believe the virus is man-made.
I don't believe that it is human-engineered because it's too non-specific as to race to be useful as any kind of bio-weapon unless it was developed by nihilist terrorists to kill everyone and disrupt the world.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 10 2020 9:40 utc | 127

Fort Russ News published an article by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. which shows just how appalling Bill Gates really is. As well as the links I have posted the entire text as it seems the original post (Facebook, I believe) has disappeared and there is difficulty in finding the article.

It is essential reading and should be widely shared.

Robert F Kennedy Jr. Exposes Bill Gates’ Vaccine Dictatorship Plan – cites Gates’ twisted ‘Messiah Complex

Robert F. Kennedy Jr Instagram post - article only available as a series of images

Text of article follows:

#Vaccines, for #BillGates, are a strategic philanthropy that feed his many vaccine-related businesses (including #Microsoft’s ambition to control a global vac ID enterprise) and give him dictatorial control over global health policy—the spear tip of corporate neo-imperialism.

Gates’ obsession with vaccines seems fueled by a messianic conviction that he is ordained to save the world with technology and a god-like willingness to experiment with the lives of lesser humans.

Promising to eradicate Polio with $1.2 billion, Gates took control of India ‘s National Advisory Board (NAB) and mandated 50 polio vaccines (up from 5) to every child before age 5. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian Government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and evicted Gates and his cronies from the NAB. Polio paralysis rates dropped precipitously. In 2017, the World Health Organization reluctantly admitted that the global polio explosion is predominantly vaccine strain, meaning it is coming from Gates’ Vaccine Program. The most frightening epidemics in Congo, the Philippines, and Afghanistan are all linked to Gates’ vaccines. By 2018, ¾ of global polio cases were from Gates’ vaccines.

In 2014, the #GatesFoundation funded tests of experimental HPV vaccines, developed by GSK and Merck, on 23,000 young girls in remote Indian provinces. Approximately 1,200 suffered severe side effects, including autoimmune and fertility disorders. Seven died. Indian government investigations charged that Gates funded researchers committed pervasive ethical violations: pressuring vulnerable village girls into the trial, bullying parents, forging consent forms, and refusing medical care to the injured girls. The case is now in the country’s Supreme Court.

In 2010, the Gates Foundation funded a trial of a GSK’s experimental malaria vaccine, killing 151 African infants and causing serious adverse effects including paralysis, seizure, and febrile convulsions to 1,048 of the 5,049 children.

During Gates 2002 MenAfriVac Campaign in Sub-Saharan Africa, Gates operatives forcibly vaccinated thousands of African children against meningitis. Between 50-500 children developed paralysis. South African newspapers complained, “We are guinea pigs for drug makers”

Nelson Mandela’s former Senior Economist, Professor Patrick Bond, describes Gates’ philantropic practices as “ruthless” and “immoral”.
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In 2010, Gates committed $10 billion to the WHO promising to reduce population, in part, through new vaccines. A month later Gates told a Ted Talk that new vaccines “could reduce population”. In 2014, Kenya’s Catholic Doctors Association accused the WHO of chemically sterilizing millions of unwilling Kenyan women with a phony “tetanus” vaccine campaign.

Independent labs found the sterility formula in every vaccine tested.

After denying the charges, WHO finally admitted it had been developing the sterility vaccines for over a decade.

Similar accusations came from Tanzania, Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines.

A 2017 study (Morgensen et.Al.2017) showed that WHO’s popular DTP is killing more African than the disease it pretends to prevent. Vaccinated girls suffered 10x the death rate of unvaccinated children.

Gates and the WHO refused to recall the lethal vaccine which WHO forces upon millions of African children annually.

Global public health advocates around the world accuse Gates of – hijacking WHO’s agenda away from the projects that are proven to curb infectious diseases; clean water, hygiene, nutrition and economic development.

They say he has diverted agency resources to serve his personal fetish – that good health only comes in a syringe.

In addition to using his philanthropy to control WHO, UNICEF, GAVI and PATH, Gates funds private pharmaceutical companies that manufacture vaccines, and a massive network of pharmaceutical industry front groups that broadcast deceptive propaganda, develop fraudulent studies, conduct surveillance and psychological operations against vaccine hesitancy and use Gates’ power and money to silence dissent and coerce compliance. In this recent nonstop Pharmedia appearances, Gates appears gleeful that the Covid-19 crisis will give him the opportunity to force his third-world vaccine programs on American children.”

Posted by: ADKC | Apr 10 2020 12:20 utc | 128

While Kushner deviates helath resources to his friends in Israel and the private health sector...What nobody tell you about....

Venezuela? Cuba? NO, it is New York, the capital of the empire.

This drone footage captures NYC workers burying bodies in a mass grave on Hart Island, just off the coast of the Bronx. For over a century, the island has served as a potter’s field for deceased with no known next of kin or families unable to pay for funerals.

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Apr 10 2020 12:26 utc | 129

Forgot to mention that those burying the corpses in Hart island are inmates....

Late Capitalism, 2020: Prisoners burying dozens of corpses in mass graves on Hart Island, The Bronx, New York.

Posted by: H.Schmatz | Apr 10 2020 12:31 utc | 130

Data massaging, from the BBC live
"Belgium has reported 496 new deaths in the past 24 hours, its deadliest day so far, bringing the number of fatalities to 3,019.

The number appears very high for a country of 11.4 million, however around half the number of fatalities have been recorded outside Belgium's hospitals, largely in care homes, and many of the latest deaths happened last month.

Geert Meyfroidt, president of the Belgian Society of Intensive Care Medicine, has told the BBC that the number is so high because Belgium counts all suspected cases of Covid-19 as well as confirmed cases. "In most other countries, they only count those who have tested positive.""

Posted by: Mina | Apr 10 2020 13:46 utc | 131

Posted by: Mina | Apr 10 2020 13:46 utc | 131

I assume all numbers available at present are "inaccurate", how inaccurate depending on who is collecting them and the means used, etc. Hard to tell the truth out here in Televison-land, and it's a highly politicized subject too, lots of attempts at butt-covering and spin.

Posted by: Bemildred | Apr 10 2020 13:57 utc | 132

ADKC | Apr 10 2020 12:20 utc | 128

Thanks for the "Gates" report, chilling if you consider this is probably part of the "next step" for humanity.
Masks. Even the the french are into stealing masks ordered from other french people. Twice, orders for masks have been seized by the State. 2 million ordered by Bourgogne-franche-Compté for distribution to EHPADS and other departments were "requisitioned".. 20'000 masks were destined for the health personnel in old age pension homes in St-Claude-Jura Français. (4 Infirmières-aide soignants positive) Planned obsolesence for humans ?

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 10 2020 14:13 utc | 133

Clearly the Jared Kushner statement that the masks are for the Federal Stockpiles means that the order of distribution becomes important.
Proposed list ;

1) For me, I, myself, Jared Kushner
2) For the members of the family.
3) For the Geriatric members of the Senate and Congress
4) for the other members of the same institutions as long as I like them
5) for members of the "intelligence" agencies. or at least some of the 17 agencies, but only above director level.
6) for other 5 eye spy agencies directors as long as they are still useful.
7) for Mossad.
8) for our Mafia "helpers".
9) for the upper echelons of the federal reserve and BIS
10) for Hedge fund and parallel Banking speculators
11) for Top Corporate directors if not rich enough to buy their own
10) for top members of the armed forces command structure now hidden in Bunkers.

I don't think I have forgotten anyone else important.
All the rest are expendables or deplorables.

Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 10 2020 14:36 utc | 134

@ Posted by: ADKC | Apr 10 2020 12:20 utc | 128

This is not surprising. Eugenics always fascinated the Gateses.

I think that, when they first begun to play the anti-malaria game in Africa, they quickly realized mass esterilization would be perfectly feasible, as the African government reavealed to be more susceptible to American soft power than they thought. And, if they could to use them as human testing subjects along the way, even better.

I believe this must be the same case with India, as India is also has a very soft spot for Western influence.

But this is not the first time (alleged) scientific progress is tied with genocide. The Japanese inaugurated the concept with the colonization of Northeaster China (coolies).

Posted by: vk | Apr 10 2020 15:31 utc | 135

ADKC 128

I was able to access the story at another one of Kennedy's websites, The title to search is "Gates’ Globalist Vaccine Agenda: A Win-Win for Pharma and Mandatory Vaccination."

Which is useful because you can find the embedded links supporting his contentions. Also, a list on the right of the webpage with links to other articles by RFK JR.

Perhaps Kennedy will emerge as a leader who can effectively push back against the Gates Vax Combination.

Posted by: Really?? | Apr 10 2020 16:06 utc | 136

@Peter AU1 #123
If you cannot understand the size and scale of New York state vs. entire countries, I cannot help you.
New York state has 80% of the population of the entire nation of Australia, for example.
Furthermore, New York state is a large area which actually contains multiple metropolitan areas including Buffalo and Albany.
Outbreak or not, it is a large, highly populated, economically and geographically diverse region which would be the 12th or 13th largest country, by GDP, in the world.
nCOV wise: New York now has more cases than any country except the overall United States.
Your point continues to be utterly invalid.

Posted by: c1ue | Apr 10 2020 18:25 utc | 137

US Jared of Arabia Kushner in his present function is out of bounds. He is acting allegedly criminally against the Law of the Land. Jared Kushner is a "US Citizen" and resorts under the Law of the Sea or Maritime Law.

He should be arrested and put before the Courts,

Posted by: Blackeyes | Apr 10 2020 21:07 utc | 138

Scott from Chitown @ 52 & 58

You both confirmed my understanding of viruses mutating so vaccines are a chimera.

There are a number of viral diseases that have effective vaccines. Smallpox, caused by a variola virus, has been almost eliminated due to an effective vaccine. Also caused by virus and vaccinated against are measles, mumps, rubella, and polio - among others.

Some viruses are constantly mutating too quickly to develop an effective vaccine. My understanding is that the nCov-19 virus has not been shown to be mutating rapidly, so a vaccine is a possibility.

Whether or not people trust the makers and proponents of the vaccine if one is developed is another question.

Sorry if someone else has already pointed this out, I have not read the whole thread yet.

Posted by: Lorna MacKay | Apr 10 2020 23:37 utc | 139

Johnin MK @ 44

If US intelligence had a report about nCov-19 in November of 2019, it would be a smoking gun that US introduced the virus, as the first case the Chinese knew about was in December. They have now traced back to an initial case on Nov 17, but at the time is was not flagged as a new illness (20/20 vision hindsight)

"They found that following the Nov. 17 case, about one to five new cases were reported every day and by Dec. 15, the total infections reached 27."

So if US intelligence knew before cases had even increased to 27, that there was a possible "cataclysmic event", then they must have had foreknowledge, as the Chinese did not realise until near the end of December that a new illness was spreading.

"On Dec. 27, Dr. Zhang Jixian, head of the respiratory department at Hubei Provincial Hospital, reported to health officials in China that a novel coronavirus was causing the disease; by that day, it had infected more than 180 individuals. (Doctors may not have been aware of all of those cases at the time, but only identified those cases after going back over the records, the Morning Post reported.)"

1st known case of coronavirus traced back to November in China

Posted by: Lorna MacKay | Apr 10 2020 23:55 utc | 140

Cities regions ect hit by an outbreak can usually count on the resources of the entire country.

Entire countries can be compared to one another as to how hard they have been hit, and regions within countries can be compared to each other.
But in the end it is case and death numbers per country per million or hundred thousand that count. US overall has a low death rate compared to say Italy and Spain.
New York as an outbreak area in US could be compared to say Lombardy region of Italy or Hubei province China.
To compare an outbreak region in one country to an entire country is very misleading.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Apr 11 2020 0:03 utc | 141

Lorna MacKay @ 140

About a month ago in an interview with Joe Rogan, Michael Osterholm stated that it appeared to jump from animals to humans in China in the 3rd week of November.

Posted by: financial matters | Apr 11 2020 1:07 utc | 142

financial matters @ 142

That fits fairly closely with the first case being Nov 17, as in the article I linked to, although the reseachers state it is the earliest case they have been able to trace, not that it is definately the first case.

Posted by: Lorna MacKay | Apr 11 2020 2:24 utc | 143

Michael Osterholm has a great reputation as an epidemiologist but may have spent too much time on the Council on Foreign Relations. :)

Posted by: financial matters | Apr 11 2020 2:39 utc | 144

ADKC @ 128

I also saw that article at Fort Russ and agree that, if true, is deeply distubing. However, it cites no references, footnotes, nor links to any news reports or studies or other collaborating sources.

It presents facts and figures without backing them up in any way. It is easy to dispise Bill Gates, and therefore believe any negative reports of him, just as it is easy to dispise Trump and believe all manner of negative reports. Just because we would like it to be true, does not mean we should turn off critical thinking.

You say the article should be shared widely, but I do not think any responsible person should share it without checking. If the facts stated are true, it should not be dificult to find evidence to back them up.

Posted by: Lorna MacKay | Apr 11 2020 2:50 utc | 145

@145 Lorna MacKay

Here's the article on Kennedy's website:
Gates’ Globalist Vaccine Agenda: A Win-Win for Pharma and Mandatory Vaccination

Stuffed full of links.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 11 2020 3:19 utc | 146

Thank you Grieved.

I have been labouriously using the figures and facts stated in the article as search terms to check the statements. I looked up enough to understand that while the figures were often correct the stated facts were often not.

For instance,

Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017
is incorrect. There were over 490,000 cases of paralysis in those years, and while they did seem to be linked to the frequency of vaccination, the paralysis was NOT due to polio; in fact the vaccinations did protect all the children from contracting polio, but a number contracted 'AFP' (paralysis). The conclusion, that a high rate of repeated doses was correlated to the rate of AFP, was correct. It bothers me that the author was dishonest in presenting the facts - presumably to make his case more compelling.


The most frightening epidemics in Congo, the Philippines, and Afghanistan are all linked to Gates’ vaccines. By 2018, ¾ of global polio cases were from Gates’ vaccines
seems to imply that vacinated children were contracting polio. The statement is true, the outbreaks were directly related to the vaccination program, but only children who had NOT been vaccinated became ill. Once again, the conclusion is correct - the vaccination program is causing harm, but I feel manipulated by the subtle with holding of information incline me to the author's bias. In both these cases, the scientific conclusion was that the use of oral (live) vaccines should be replaced by injected (non viable virus) vaccines.

I do not trust Bill Gates, and do not believe his agenda is beneficial for humankind. I am not a vaccine enthusiast, so I do not need much convincing, but I distrust authors and news sites that misrepresent or withhold information in order to sway me.

Posted by: Lorna MacKay | Apr 11 2020 5:33 utc | 147

Lorna MacKay @147

"For instance:-

'Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017.'

is incorrect. There were over 490,000 cases of paralysis in those years, and while they did seem to be linked to the frequency of vaccination, the paralysis was NOT due to polio; in fact the vaccinations did protect all the children from contracting polio, but a number contracted 'AFP' (paralysis). The conclusion, that a high rate of repeated doses was correlated to the rate of AFP, was correct. It bothers me that the author was dishonest in presenting the facts - presumably to make his case more compelling."

I feel that you are nit-picking. The article (on Kennedy's website) already appears to have been amended (I believe, before you posted) to read:

"Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP) epidemic that paralyzed 490,000 children beyond expected rates between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and asked Gates and his vaccine policies to leave India. NPAFP rates dropped precipitously."

So what you detected was imprecision of language, nothing more.

As regards your second point, you omitted the preceding sentence, which provides some context, "In 2017, the World Health Organization reluctantly admitted that the global polio explosion is predominantly vaccine strain, meaning it is coming from Gates’ Vaccine Program." and the links (that you were seeking and were provided by 'Really??' and 'Grieved') make clear that this is about mutant strains of Polio that developed from the vaccine and that the effect is on the unvaccinated. The whole paragraph has since been amended to read:

"In 2017, the World Health Organization (WHO) reluctantly admitted that the global explosion in polio is predominantly vaccine strain. The most frightening epidemics in Congo, Afghanistan, and the Philippines, are all linked to vaccines. In fact, by 2018, 70% of global polio cases were vaccine strain."

In my view the point being developed here is concluded in a later paragraph in the article:

"Global public health advocates around the world accuse Gates of steering WHO’s agenda away from the projects that are proven to curb infectious diseases: clean water, hygiene, nutrition, and economic development."

..and is about the appropriateness of ignoring these issues and just banging straight on with vaccination.

I can now see that there have been several versions of the article i.e. it has been updated and corrected a few times. I think you could have clarified your concerns before posting as you claimed to want the links and claimed to have "labouriously" checked the figures with the statements, but in my view, you have only identified imprecision of language rather than the intent to deceive that you infer.

There is, therefore, no reason why the most up-to-date version of Kennedy's article should not be widely circulated:

Gates’ Globalist Vaccine Agenda: A Win-Win for Pharma and Mandatory Vaccination


Having already completed this post I see that you have come to the same conclusion and are suggesting, on the "Assorted Virus News" thread, that the above article be read.

I am only really posting this because your post shouldn't be the last word on this thread and the points that you raise, which I assume that you are no longer concerned about, should at least be countered/corrected, otherwise a misledingly impression will be left.

Posted by: ADKC | Apr 12 2020 16:04 utc | 148

pogohere | Apr 12 2020 7:05 utc | 235

Thanks your 110,124, 125 Missed them. as they are relevant to hemoglobin/heme re possibility of attack in Covid19

Posted by: chu teh | Apr 12 2020 17:38 utc | 149

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