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March 30, 2020
Trump, Putin Will Discuss The End Of U.S. Shale Oil

Three weeks ago, when the Russian and Saudi war on U.S. shale oil started, we wrote:

In the first week of January crude oil reached $69/bl but it has since dropped to $45/bl as the coronavirus crisis destroyed the global demand. The Saudis tried to make a deal with Russia, the second largest exporter after Saudi Arabia, to together cut oil production to keep the price up. But Russia rejected a new OPEC cut. It wants to keep its production up and it will use the crisis to further undermine U.S. oil fracking production. As the whole fracking boom in the U.S. is build on fraud the move might well be successful.

Russia does not have a budget deficit and is well positioned to survive lower crude oil prices without much damage. Saudi Arabia is not.

Only a week later oil was already at $30/barrel and we predicted that it would go down to $20/bl.

On Monday the U.S. WTI oil price index reached that mark. Oil prices in other places are falling even further:

Canadian heavy crude has become so cheap that the cost of shipping it to refineries exceeds the value of the oil itself, a situation that may result in even more oil-sands producers shutting operations.

Western Canadian Select crude in Alberta dropped to a record-low close of $5.06 a barrel on Friday, according to Bloomberg data going back to 2008 …

The corona virus crisis has led to drop in global demand by some 20%. The world production and consumption in normal times was at about 100 million barrel per day. Consumption is now below 80 million bl/d. But after the OPEC+ agreement failed Saudi and Russia both started to pump as much as they could to regain market shares. Together they are increasing their production by some 3-4 million barrels per day. All that oil has to go somewhere.

Trump announced that he would use the cheap prices to fill the U.S. strategic oil reserve. But the spare room in the reserve storage at that time was only some 150 million barrels. As it can only be filled at a rate of 2 million barrels per day the topping off of the reserve is insignificant in the current market.

The oil producers at first pumped their oil into storage tanks to be sold later. When those filled up they rented supertankers to store the oil at sea. But empty supertankers are now also getting rare and the price for them is increasing:

The CEO of the world’s largest tanker owner, Frontline Ltd., said on Friday that he’d never known such demand to hire ships for long-term storage. Traders could book ships to put 100 million barrels at sea this week alone, he estimated, but even that could accounts for less than a week’s oversupply.

The only solution will be a shut down of the more expensive oil fields. Canada and Brazil are already doing it. U.S. shale producers who are bleeding cash will now have to follow.

That is clearly what Russia wants:

As soon as U.S. shale leaves the market, prices will rebound and could reach $60 a barrel, Rosneft’s Igor Sechin said recently. As fate would have it, in what many would have until recently considered an impossible scenario, a lot of U.S. shale might do just that.

Breakeven prices for U.S. shale basins range between $39 and $48 a barrel, according to data compiled by Reuters. Meanwhile, West Texas Intermediate (WTI) is trading below $25 a barrel and has been for over a week now.

The Trump administration has asked the Saudis to produce less oil but as the Saudi tourist industry is currently also dead the Saudi clown prince needs every dollar he can get. The Saudis will continue to pump and they will sell their oil at any price.

The White House is now concerned that it will completely lose its beloved shale oil industry and all the jobs connected to it.

Russia of cause knows this and a few days ago it made an interesting offer:

A new OPEC+ deal to balance oil markets might be possible if other countries join in, Kirill Dmitriev, head of Russia’s sovereign wealth fund said, adding that countries should also cooperate to cushion the economic fallout from coronavirus.

“Joint actions by countries are needed to restore the(global) economy… They (joint actions) are also possible in OPEC+ deal’s framework,” Dmitriev, head of the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), told Reuters in a phone interview.

“We are in contact with Saudi Arabia and a number of other countries. Based on these contacts we see that if the number of OPEC+ members will increase and other countries will join there is a possibility of a joint agreement to balance oil markets.”

Dmitriev declined to say who the new deal’s members should or could be. U.S. President Donald Trump said last week he would get involved in the oil price war between Saudi Arabia and Russia at the appropriate time.

A logical new member of an expanded crude oil cartel would be one of the biggest global producer that so far was not a member of that club – the U.S. of A.

We now learn that Trump is ready to talk about that or other concepts:

As Ria reports (in Russian) the topics of upcoming phone call [between Putin and Trump] will be Covid-19, trade (???) and, you guessed it, oil prices.

Trump, who sanctioned the Russian-German Nord-Stream II pipeline while telling Germany to buy U.S. shale gas, is now in a quite bad negotiation position. Russia does not need a new OPEC deal right now. It has many financial reserves and can live with low oil prices for much longer than the Saudis and other oil producing countries. Trump would have to make a strategic offer that Russia could not resist to get some cooperation on oil prices.

But what strategic offer could Trump make that would move Putin to agree to some new deal?

Ukraine? Russia is not interested in that unrulable, bankrupt and fascist infested entity.

Syria? The Zionist billionaires would stop their donations to Trump if he were to give up on destroying it.

Joining an OPEC++ deal and limit U.S. oil production? That would be an anti-American intervention in free markets and Congress would never agree to it.

And what reason has Russia to believe that Trump or his successor would stick to any deal? As the U.S. is non-agreement-capable it has none.

The outcome of the phone call will therefore likely be nothing.

The carnage in the oil markets will continue and will ravage those producer countries that need every penny while the corona virus is ravaging their people. Meanwhile the U.S. shale market will go bust.

Comments

This is what defeat looks like, when every available option is bad.

Posted by: Trisha | Mar 30 2020 17:33 utc | 1

It will be interesting to see how Putin uses this. Trump is intent on attacking Iran, Venezuela and China but Putin has Trump and his beloved oil industry over a barrel.
The only numbers looking good in the US at the moment is confirmed coronavirus cases. Hospitals swamped with dying patients may cause Trump enough domestic headaches that he wont launch attacks on Iran or Venezuela.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 30 2020 18:07 utc | 2

Hugo Chavez suggested a 60$ peg, saying let’s not be greedy. Now will it cost too much to defend? Just thinking of our brave boys and girls defending the illegal off-shore rigs. I wish with all of the super abundance of nat gas production sea ice for desalination and then hydrogen makes all comforts possible. You’re welcome,but danks B

Posted by: failure of imaginati | Mar 30 2020 18:08 utc | 3

Not to worry. There is enough Covid bailout bucks to fill and over flow the poor beleaguered oil industry pockets. Wait for it.

Posted by: diveshopingoa | Mar 30 2020 18:10 utc | 4

poor Iran and Venezuela; maybe saving the shale oil industry is not the top priority for everyone in the US

Posted by: claudio | Mar 30 2020 18:11 utc | 5

US financial companies had a big exposure to the Shale Oil frackers.
Good thing trillions of dollars of ‘liquidity’ has been shoveled their way.
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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 30 2020 18:14 utc | 6

FWIW:
One aspect of the crude complete collapse is to keep an eye on futures and the serious contango at the moment: contango=prices on future contracts are higher than current contract.
e.g. May 2020 CL contract=~$20, May 2021 =~$35.50.
Someone or someones are betting that the crude market will improve, i.e. they are storing crude in very large crude carriers (VLCC) @>$200k per day lease cost. That is a serious commitment/bet on future price/mkt improvement.

Posted by: Thomas Minnehan | Mar 30 2020 18:15 utc | 7

Long cold winters teach one how to plan, prepare, and survive. The Russians have well learned those lessons, while US elites prefer to party and spread disease at Mardi Gras and Florida beaches. Fools.
The situation in Canada is interesting. For years the petro promoters have been trying to build more pipelines to deliver bitumen-based synthetic crude that no one wants, while illogically insisting that the price is low due to delivery bottlenecks. Everywhere else in the world, buyers will pay more when supply is limited, but somehow it’s different in Canada.
Trudope already bailed out the industry two years ago when the government purchased the 65 year old Trans Mountain Pipleline for $4.5 billion. The government claimed its intent was to expand the pipeline then sell it. What is the value of a very old pipeline when oil is $5 a barrel? Zero? I speculate it will soon be sold, maybe even back to the original owners, hehe.
p.s. I know something about long cold winters; I am still looking at 2 feet of snow, and more on the way. But it will be meteorological spring in three weeks when the average low temperature rises to 32F.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Mar 30 2020 18:27 utc | 8

Unmentioned is the connection between Fracking Fraud and the Bond Market Bubble with Congress actively intervening/abetting the Fraud by providing more money to the Ponzi Scheme.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 30 2020 18:32 utc | 9

Love it, b. Thank you for making it clear to me.
For Trump to succeed and truly MAGA, he would have had to convince the American public that systemic changes were both needed and were going to hurt at the outset of his presidency.
Instead, he took the lazy, easy road and has come to a dead end.
To what end would a man like Trump try for reelection when what he will lead is in absolute shambles by the end of the year. Then he will have to really wound in order to heal. Maybe he realizes this and is just looking to get his foot in the door of another four years.
Bahhhhh. Probably not.

Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Mar 30 2020 18:38 utc | 10

Well, Trump does have a Trump card (I know). What if the conversation with Putin goes like this:
DT: You know I hear a lot of people would like to not have any more problems with Erodgan.
VP: What do you mean?
DT: Erdogan is bugging me to help him out in Syria. What should I do?
VP: What do you mean?
DT: It would be really nice if I had a good reason not to help him, capeesh?
VP: Oh.
DT: I hear a lot of people want their oil in Syria.
VP: Oh.
DT: I hear a lot of people would like Iraq to be left alone.
VP: Oh.
DT. Anything you can help out with in the oil markets?
Pax Americana: Between Iraq and A Hard Place
Trump has a lot of leverage.

Posted by: Kali | Mar 30 2020 18:38 utc | 11

Gas?
A couple of weeks ago there was a small news item that “the Russian pipe laying ship, expected to complete the North stream 2 project, was seen “off course” and heading to Madagascar” I didn’t know what to make of it then and still don’t. But if the Russians want to delay the startup of the Gas line – the weather is playing into their hands as it is freezing cold in the EU at the moment, and Madagascar would be warmer. (and out of Covid-19?)

Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 30 2020 18:38 utc | 12

Kali
If it were Iraq and Syria threatening Trump’s fracking industry then he would have leverage, or at least something to make a deal with, but in this case if any were offering a deal, it would be Putin offering to ease up on US fracking if Trump pulls out of those countries. Russia can allow the situation in the Middle east to stay as it is for quite some time if necessary, whereas Trump’s frackers need prices up very fast. Trump has nothing to bargain with and will have to pay top dollar for whatever he wants from Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 30 2020 18:54 utc | 13

“but as the Saudi tourist industry is currently also dead the Saudi clown prince needs every dollar he can get.”
By “Saudi tourist industry” you must mean pilgrimages to Mecca for Hajj and ‘Umra. Anything else is insignificant.

Posted by: Laguerre | Mar 30 2020 18:59 utc | 14

But if the Russians want to delay the startup of the Gas line – the weather is playing into their hands as it is freezing cold in the EU at the moment, and Madagascar would be warmer. (and out of Covid-19?)
Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 30 2020 18:38 utc | 12
Maputo (not Madagascar) was the last port that Akademik Cherskiy visited. Because Maputo is very close to RSA, the vessel is approaching Cap of Good Hope. This route may be more auspicious than Red Sea and Mediterranean if you are afraid of sabotage.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 30 2020 18:59 utc | 15

According to the statement, Trump told Putin about the difficult situation in Venezuela and stressed the importance of a democratic transition in the Latin American country. (Sputnik)
Do I detect that Trump threatened Putin about attacking Venezuela if he didn’t agree to stop pumping? Silly move (or maybe desperation?).

Posted by: Stonebird | Mar 30 2020 19:00 utc | 16

The US could cancel sanctions against Russia, which would be a win-win. And what if Iran were to flood the oil market as well?

Posted by: farm ecologist | Mar 30 2020 19:01 utc | 17

Just watched an interesting talk by Harris Kupperman.
1) He estimates the “excess” crude oil could go to 2 or 3 billion barrels, even disregarding production increases
2) “steady state” back to normal would see perhaps 5 million barrels/day demand beyond capacity
3) Old tankers – more than 10 years old – are returning 4x capital in 1 year due to $11 contango
4) Newer tankers – charging $300K/day. Literally unprecedented. Returning 150% capital in 1 year @ $100K/day.
Basically, the huge crude oversupply isn’t going away any time soon.
And tanker company stock are valued at 1/2 NAV…when a $25M old tanker can yield $20M cash in 1 year.
Note: Strategic Petroleum reserve is a rounding error compared to the magnitude of the surplus…

Posted by: c1ue | Mar 30 2020 19:04 utc | 18

The 80’s are calling …
There are Americans (maybe I’m an American’t) who think it’s the 1980’s
1. Reagan / Saudi’s destroy Russia’s oil revenue …
https://jamestown.org/program/russians-grapple-with-oil-price-war-at-a-time-of-pandemic/
“The timing could not have been worse for Russia to provoke a spat with Saudi Arabia over oil production quotas in early March….” [ you can guess how the rest of this gem continued and you would not be disappointed. Russia collapses 2.0 ]
2. Bush arrests Manuel Noriega …
I still cannot get over William Barr having the gall to indict Maduro. Even the most dimwitted fraud on cable TV has to see through this charade, oh wait, I am talking about Brian Kilmeade and Sean Hannity, never mind.

Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Mar 30 2020 19:08 utc | 19

Bad spelling. Better ones: Dias called the cape Cabo das Tormentas (“Cape of Storms”; Dutch: Stormkaap), which was the original name of the “Cape of Good Hope”. (Wiki)
I like the sound of Cabo das Tormentas. It seems that Akademic Cherskiy sails north now.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 30 2020 19:09 utc | 20

“Syria? The Zionist billionaires would stop their donations to Trump if he would give up on destroying it.”
The Syrian oil-fields are currently in the hands of the US, and not benefiting the Syrian people. Even if they were, the production is not great enough to do more than supply Syrians. The slow collapse of the US position in Iraq means that the US is not going to hold those oil-fields for too long.

Posted by: Laguerre | Mar 30 2020 19:14 utc | 21

It was time. The shale industry already was a huge bubble even when oil prices were at USD 60.00 (because it had to borrow a lot to invest, and the more wells drilled, the lower was the oil output per USD invested), which insiders in Wall Street were already discussing how to burst it.
And this is a 100% intentional by the Russians. If American shale really go down, then it would be ironic, since it was the oil crisis of 1975 that effectively ended the Soviet Union.
Vengeance is dish best served cold indeed.

Posted by: vk | Mar 30 2020 19:18 utc | 22

An interesting part of this is that it is constantly termed as a oil war or price war between KSA and Russia. US has made enemies of both Russia and KSA and will be by far the biggest loser if its fracking industry is broken. In the past couple of years OPEC plus Russia have made number of output cuts to hold prices up, whereas the US uses this to increase its out put. Cui bono says this is Russia and KSA vs US frackers.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 30 2020 19:23 utc | 23

Lets not forget thedrop in oil prices a couple of years back created by the Saudis increasing production. At the time it surely looked like an intentional move to hurt Venezuela and Russia. I believe that it was intentional. Again, revenge by a black belt.

Posted by: arby | Mar 30 2020 19:23 utc | 24

thanks b… in a roundabout way i smell WAR… sorry… it just seems that when things go like this, the atmosphere is ripe for war.. some kind of war..
@ 7 Thomas Minnehan.. thanks for that… sometimes those future traders bet wrong.. maybe it is the fed buying the oil futures? speculation.. i know..
@ 8 trailer trash.. yeah, the canuck gov’t basically blew away a lot of money on the pipeline… i doubt it is coming back.. as a b.c. person – good riddance..

Posted by: james | Mar 30 2020 19:26 utc | 25

Another factor going against the shale fracking pipe dream is that the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) is filled with real oil. Fracking produces light condensate (not oil) that does not meet this criteria, and thus the frackers will not benefit from filling the SPR (unless Trump changes the rules)
Besides, Exxon wants to crush the independent oil shale players and pick up the pieces at pennies on the dollar. Furthermore, former ExxonMobil head Lee Raymond once stated that “Exxon U.S. is not a “company and I don’t make decisions based on what’s good for the U.S.”
https://www.desmogblog.com/2020/03/27/shale-bailout-trump-oil-exxon-strategic-petroleum-reserve

Posted by: Krollchem | Mar 30 2020 19:28 utc | 26

Posted by: vk | Mar 30 2020 19:18 utc | 22
Yeah, it sounds like shale-oil is going to be the victim, as the costs of production are so high.
However, most of the economy is going to be up-ended by the corona-virus shut-down, and it’s very difficult to predict how it’s going to pan out.

Posted by: Laguerre | Mar 30 2020 19:34 utc | 27

A study by the Wall Street Journal concluded that in one ten year period, the shale oil companies’ total costs had exceeded their revenues by two hundred and eighty billion dollars. They have stayed in business by issuing new stock and more debt to cover their losses. Their prime fields are seeing production declines. Their costs are rising as the price of is oil tanking. Collapse is imminent. It’s going to have far-reaching consequences.

Posted by: David | Mar 30 2020 19:35 utc | 28

Posted by: james | Mar 30 2020 19:26 utc | 25
“thanks b… in a roundabout way i smell WAR… sorry… it just seems that when things go like this, the atmosphere is ripe for war.. some kind of war..”
Posted by: james | Mar 30 2020 19:26 utc | 25
Nah, the situation is too torn up for that. People genuinely don’t know which way things are going to go.

Posted by: Laguerre | Mar 30 2020 19:39 utc | 29

As for me, any scenario that involves the stoppage of Fracking is a plus for the environment. Retrain the people laid off to build solar or wind equipment, to make it more affordable….
IF, we had a forward thinking Gov. we could get that done…

Posted by: ben | Mar 30 2020 19:51 utc | 30

Thank you President Putin. You are indeed doing Gods work.

Posted by: so | Mar 30 2020 19:54 utc | 31

@ 29 laguerre.. i hope you are right!

Posted by: james | Mar 30 2020 19:56 utc | 32

I think b is right about this: Trump has no bargaining power.
Leading me to believe that Trump’s call with Putin was about something else.
I agree with james @25: the atmosphere is ripe for war.. some kind of war..
That’s what the talk was about. Idlib, Iraq, and Yemen are hotspots.
I also suspect that Netanyahu may use that war and the world’s focus on coronovirus to take the West Bank.
!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 30 2020 19:58 utc | 33

I’m reading a lot of articles on the usual websites and there is quite a lot of detail information and informed speculation on a whole range of current problems.
What I have not see is thoughts on where we are going to be in a year or two. This could cause the kind of economic damage to the US that happened to Britain in WW2.
Like many readers I have long been a believer that we were flying on empty and yet believing it to be coming has in no way prepared me for what is about to go down.
There are lots of smart people on this site, what do others have to say?

Posted by: Ramon | Mar 30 2020 19:58 utc | 34

I apologize in advance for this …
FOX news must have a direct line to some CIA (and Hasbara trolls) because their stories are such over the top propaganda, almost comical … They claim that China is lying about Coronavirus being under control in Wuhan, that ‘local sources’ are telling them that they are cremating 500 people a day
https://www.foxnews.com/world/wuhan-residents-say-coronavirus-figures-released-by-china-dont-add-up
Why do I think this is propaganda.
1. We are collectively infuriated at the thought that China did something better than us so we have an emotional need to slander them, this hits all of the buttons … lying totalitarian govt that is carelessly endangering their local population for their own reputation sake.
2. It’s on FOX. Weren’t western journalists booted out of Wuhan, who would be the source of this info.
What’s behind this new Cold War against China, embarrassment about our (U.S.’s) shortcoming in handling the epidemic or fury that China stands in the way of our world domination. They are able to buy Iranian oil and get away with it.

Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Mar 30 2020 20:01 utc | 35

Notice how the language in China all along has been about saving lives and secondarily the economy, whereas in the West the language is all about the markets and getting business back and secondarily saving lives. In fact there is no apparent concern for the lives of US citizens on the part of the ruling imperial oligarchy.
You know, there is not a Syrian war, or an Afghan war, or a war on Venezuela, there is one and only one war, the war of the ruling oligarchy of Western civilization against ALL the people of the world.

Posted by: Babyl-on | Mar 30 2020 20:02 utc | 36

Yet another example of the utter intellectual bankruptcy of the US ruling class. They’ve been playing a rigged game for so long, they’ve forgotten how to think.
As others here have pointed out, not to worry, the US fracking industry will get bailed out.
The real thing the US might do, is not to join an expanded OPEC+, but to limit imports of foreign oil and protect the domestic industry. Contrary to current ‘free trade’ dogma, protectionism does work (example A: the United States from 1776 to 1970. Any questions?), but classically you want to limit imports of MANUFACTURED goods and keep the cost of raw materials low. Increasing the relative costs of raw materials in the US while still allowing mass importation of manufactured goods from low-wage nations is anti-Hamiltonian and will crush what remains of US domestic manufacturing..)

Posted by: TG | Mar 30 2020 20:04 utc | 37

Meanwhile Western Canadian Select is now going for $5 a barrel – less than the price of a coffee and muffin at Starbucks.

Posted by: Krypton | Mar 30 2020 20:06 utc | 38

Meanwhile Western Canadian Select is now going for $5 a barrel – less than the price of a coffee and muffin at Starbucks.

Posted by: Krypton | Mar 30 2020 20:06 utc | 39

Not sure the US shale market can “go bust” as such. The owners can go bankrupt, but that just means banks and bondholders become the new owners, and their debt investment suddenly turns into equity investment with zero gearing. Once that happens the US shale producers become solid companies financed with zero debt and no incentive to hold back on production. They pump and pump and pump until the pumps no longer work.
Sure, no new developments, but the existing infrastructure will last a few years yet.

Posted by: Michael Droy | Mar 30 2020 20:11 utc | 40

I don’t see a way out for the US fracking industry. Their product is too expensive in the current times, and those setting the rules in these times (Russia and Saud Arabia) have no good reason to help.
The social damage from a collapse in the US will be papered over with printed money. I don’t know how that will play out.
One scenario is time being called on the US’s forever-wars in the Middle East, but would they be replaced by an invasion of Venezuela? There is good stuff down there, as well as the heavy stuff they’ve been pulling out. And just across the border into Brazil there is some high ground that looks like a good spot to build a command post.
The US could cut its losses in the wider world, something that seems to be happening anyway, and return to America, north and south. I don’t see it just quietly going down the gurgler, but the European Union might.

Posted by: Hal Duell | Mar 30 2020 20:15 utc | 41

That MAGA ship of fools must be loving all that winning. Rest assured stable genius is playing multi-dimensional chess… If anything, it’s all Keyfabe and a hoax by russia just like the covid-19 was a democratic hoax to undermine the great white hope. Didn’t Chump just brag last week about how low oil price were a very great thing for his cult of deplorables ? Zugzwang is a b*tch.

Posted by: Sol Invictus | Mar 30 2020 20:19 utc | 42

That MAGA ship of fools must be loving all that winning. Rest assured stable genius is playing multi-dimensional chess… If anything, it’s all Keyfabe and a hoax by russia just like the covid-19 was a democratic hoax to undermine the great white hope. Didn’t Chump just brag last week about how low oil price were a very great thing for his cult of deplorables ? Zugzwang is a b*tch.

Posted by: Sol Invictus | Mar 30 2020 20:19 utc | 43

Well if you f*ck with Nord Stream II, the favour is returned. One day the US will learn the limits to their stupidity.

Posted by: Jezabeel | Mar 30 2020 20:24 utc | 44

In this agreement, it must include OPEC members Venezuela and Iran, and Russia must insist that economic and oil embargo be lifted to all countries. The lowering of crude oil prices has the same painful effect on the economies to those countries that we economically siege, like Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and Venezuela. Its a poetic revenge.

Posted by: El Cid | Mar 30 2020 20:31 utc | 45