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Syria – Another Ceasefire In Idleb – Erdogan Loses On All Points
Our last post on Syria concluded:
Erdogan wants Idleb but neither Syria nor Iran nor Russia will let him have it. President Putin will meet Erdogan during the coming days and will make sure that the point is understood.
President Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey and President Vladimir Putin of Russia met today in Moscow. They had a 160 minute long talk under 4 eyes and another round with their relevant staff. The parties agreed on a new ceasefire in Idleb governorate.
Idleb governorate Mar 5 2020
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The so far published agreed points are:
1- Cease all military actions along the line of contact in the Idlib de-escalation area starting 00:01 on March 6, 2020
2- A security corridor will be established 6 km deep to the north and the south from highway M4, Specific parameters of the functioning of the security corridor will be agreed between the Defense Ministries of the Turkish Republic and the Russian Federation within 7 days.
3- On March 15, 2020 joint Turkish-Russian patrolling will begin along highway M4 from the settlement oo Trumba (2 km to the west of Saraqib) to the settlement of Ain-Al-Hayr.
Here are part one and two of the memo.
(I believe that Ain-Al-Hayr is also transliterated as Ain al Hawr which is on the very western end of the M4 segment that is still under Jihadi control).
The aim of the current Syrian army operation is thereby largely fulfilled. The M4 and the M5 highways will be free of Jihadis and open to traffic.
This ceasefire is unlikely to hold over a longer period. But it brings a useful pause for the Syrian army that will allow it to recover a bit and to take care of its men and equipment.
This for now also ends the Turkish threat to attack the Syrian army and to reconquer all areas it had liberated over the last months.
Erdogan, who had made many demands, saw none of them fulfilled. The agreement will cost him political points within his party.
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@Hevallo @Hevallo – 18:08 UTC · Mar 5, 2020
Best thing for me from the Moscow meeting between Erdogan and Putin was the subservient stature of the Turkish delegation in front of Putin and standing under the statue of Catherine the Great who defeated the Turks several times during the XVIII century.
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 6 2020 17:51 utc | 113
Pardon me for disagreeing with your thesis at 113. This assumption of ‘evil other’ has become the norm for most conversation, the trajectory at this site has gone from ‘bankers’ to ‘banksters’ to ‘finance and financiers’ to ‘rentiers’ to ‘corporation’ to ‘the 1%’ to ‘0.1%’ to ‘the 0.01%’ to ‘the 0.001’ and etc. to ‘monopoly and/or monopolistic’ and now ‘creditor capitalism’. What message this suggests is that you don’t know where the problem lies and don’t have a sound economic theory to work with; not to worry, there isn’t one, the closest approach to one has been discredited and discarded in total, preference given to youtube charlatans vending ill considered but emotionally attractive conjecture. Have you considered that there might be two economic populations those who, for whatever reason, do not live within their incomes, and those who do? Why is it always those who do live within their incomes are automatically guilty of ‘economic evil’? You are not going to find any functional answer using that methodology as only dead end results will pertain, but that is the royal road of the orthodoxy based herd. It is time to abandon the assumptions and framing of the ‘evil other’ as an analytical tool and framing mechanism; no progress will ensue that road.
Consider for a moment that ‘economic evil’ can pertain to debtors as well; the ‘economic evil’ of ignorance, incapacity to make decisions and judgments about entering into debt by contractual agreement obtaining credit however it may be used. Are there no shoulders among debtors sufficiently strong to take responsibility for their acts – decisions?
An aside: at 1% you are looking at about 3.27 millions of the U.S; at 0.01 is thereabout 33 thousand of the same; at 0.000001 of world population yields some 7,000 candidates and at 0.000000001 there are still 7 running about – you should be able to name these easily.
The assertion of population decimation, however emotionally attractive it may seem to support the assertion, is weakly supported by available facts, falling into the realm of conspiracy theory orthodoxy; a weak crutch indeed.
It is the likely zeitgeist that Hollywood fictions have replaced nouns, adjectives, verbs and adverbs, marking the damage done to the language and the capacity to use it proficiently. The trajectory is toward language not being a commonly shared ability, each having their own private dictionary of incompatible definitions – a hidden cost of individuality – atomisation. Contamination of the language serves to hide political malfeasance behind respectability, best e.g. being ‘democracy’, ‘freedom’, ‘free trade’, ‘trickle down’ (short-listed). This destruction of language has hidden a slow-motion political coup-d’état in the U.S. beginning with the destruction of law enforcement in the Nixon administration and regulatory capture in the Reagan followed by the dismantlement of New Deal policies and programs in the G.H.W. Bush administration and the abandonment of political opposition in the following Clinton administration. The Constitution was discarded during the 2000 election by the SCOTUS itself. Not only is it the Outlaw U.S. Empire, it is the Illegal Outlaw U.S. Empire and power will only be taken from the cold dead fingers of the cabal now ascendant – violence assured, an idea must be liquidated completely, no other option is available. Your lying eyes have had the wool pulled over and are not allowed to view proscribed vistas – abandon hope.
Whatever else they might have been, the Founders were aware of human nature and constructed their republic accordingly from deliberation and negotiation from their disparate interests. Their political progeny have not met those standards since although one issue became settled as result of civil war, an unduly expensive way of negotiating in life and treasure. Another protection given in the original architecture was the requirement of buying a state’s legislature in order to buy a federal Senator, but ‘democracy’ and it was much cheaper buying both candidates for office rather than the state legislature making capture of a house of Congress feasible. ‘Democracy’ strikes again when failure to keep the Republic intact. But that is historical footnote now. The apparent qualification for public office in today’s ‘democracy’ is having good hair, real or fabricated. What the public knows of human nature is derived completely from Hollywood fiction, about as real as The Occupant of the Whitehouse’s hair is original.
The conclusion(s) given are likely based on assumption error, greed is your interpretation of historical record, applying ‘democracy’ and its assumptions to the historical record is nonsense, little separated ancient populations from their ruling classes, an socially organic bond existed between ruled and ruling, when one suffered so did the other. The Persian empires illuminate this splendidly. Capitalism was the ‘other’ in K. Marx’s observations of the working classes and had little bearing on early Classical economists, now barely having a century and a half to show for itself. Preceding the ideology of Mercantilism prevailed in economic affairs. Now a class war between Creditors and Debtors carries the mantle of economic evil. Go ahead and destroy that too while your about it, do not give a thought of what will replace an economic function at least 10,000 years in the making, this is what ignorance does so well.
This will be either ultimate or unlikely penultimate contribution I will have this site, depending. I shall go to ground eternally thankful of not receiving an accolade from the gentleperson from Canada, self appointed approver of content this site, but then, events pass there so infrequently a stop-calendar is handy to measure their passing.
Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Mar 8 2020 16:38 utc | 197
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