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March 10, 2020
Open Thread 2020-19
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Our Austrian friend from last thread may have jumped the start on his comment:
Trump’s early promise for more tax cuts animated “the markets” a little bit, and the oil prices recovered. But the sugar rush soon faded. Posted by: vk | Mar 10 2020 17:06 utc | 1 Zakharova destroys British journalist Rosenberg Posted by: DG | Mar 10 2020 17:37 utc | 2 @ DG | Mar 10 2020 17:37 utc | 2 Posted by: jrkrideau | Mar 10 2020 17:49 utc | 3 Covid-19 can be a more efficient and dicreet weapon that chemical weapons or bombs. Posted by: Virgile | Mar 10 2020 18:02 utc | 4 @DG Posted by: Michael Droy | Mar 10 2020 18:16 utc | 5 @ jrkrideau One should certainly not Posted by: DG | Mar 10 2020 18:33 utc | 7 Oil. Saudi has 92 years of reserves. Venezuela has more reserves and barely pumps any. The oil market has 40 years max before it disappears like the coal market will too. Posted by: Michael Droy | Mar 10 2020 18:34 utc | 8 Finally found someone who agrees with my “imbecilization of the West” hypothesis:
And Weyne Madsen is not what you would call a Bolshevik. On the contrary, he’s pretty much your pro-West, liberal, middle-of-the-road journalist. @4 Virgile
Yes, I also wonder why they don’t do that. You should get in touch with the relevant authorities in Syria, Russia and Iran and offer your services as a policy consultant. I am certain they will handsomely reward your for your invaluable insight. Posted by: Daniel | Mar 10 2020 19:01 utc | 11 Bibi has been told No. Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 10 2020 19:10 utc | 12 Posted by: Michael Droy | Mar 10 2020 18:34 utc | 8 Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 10 2020 19:38 utc | 13 @Michael Droy #8 Posted by: c1ue | Mar 10 2020 19:42 utc | 14 @ Posted by: Michael Droy | Mar 10 2020 18:34 utc | 8
Venezuela’s oil isn’t light like KSA’s — they “barely pump any” because most of theirs has the consistency of molasses at best and requires massive steam injections or the like to induce faster flow. The Canadian tar sands are a fairly comparable resource. Neither will ever achieve flow rates like the Saudis (and it’s not because of “socialist mismanagement” in Venezuela or whatever either). Posted by: AshenLight | Mar 10 2020 19:44 utc | 15 https://www.powermag.com/300-mw-natural-gas-allam-cycle-power-plant-targeted-for-2022/ Posted by: Ilya G Poimandres | Mar 10 2020 20:07 utc | 16 Can’t completely agree with Tyler Durden here on his wide-ranging postulation, “Putin Launches ‘War On US Shale’ After Dumping MbS & Breaking Up OPEC+” mainly because it consists of too much speculation and not enough on facts and statements of those involved in the decisions. The Bloomberg story on which this is mostly based is almost 100% speculation. IMO, this is yet another attempt to bash Russia for the massive mistakes made by the Outlaw US Empire–for years, fracking’s been known as a Ponzi Scheme to those closely watching, and it was already set to implode. This Sputnik article calls the Bloomberg item Bantha Pudu and offers a completely different explanation that looks at Saudi behavior which all the Western BigLie Media outlets omitted from their coverage. Karlofi @18.. This lowering of the price of oil will surely hurt Venezuela. An openly stated target of the US. Posted by: arby | Mar 10 2020 20:26 utc | 19 ITALY LIKELY TO HAVE 60,000 COVID-19 INFECTIONS! Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 10 2020 20:36 utc | 20 I find it puzzling that the new virus has spread all over Iran very quickly, whereas in other countries it is more localised, including in China. It is also curious that it has infected by far more of its lawmakers and government officials than elsewhere. Is there a reasonable, rational explanation? Posted by: JB | Mar 10 2020 20:39 utc | 21 Still no sightings of Michael D’Andrea? It’s been over a month. Was one of the “secret codicils” of the Taliban agreement to re-patriate him or his body? Posted by: J Swift | Mar 10 2020 20:41 utc | 22 China Blames America for the Coronavirus Outbreak Posted by: az | Mar 10 2020 20:43 utc | 23 @Michael Droy #8 Posted by: c1ue | Mar 10 2020 20:50 utc | 24 @Petri Krohn #20 Posted by: c1ue | Mar 10 2020 20:55 utc | 25 Apparently the Dutch are actually going ahead with a trial over the MH-17 plane shootdown, seeking to convict in absentia three Russians and a Ukrainian. It is my understanding that a Dutch military report effectively ruled out exactly the scenario proposed for this trial, and did so several years ago. Posted by: jayc | Mar 10 2020 20:56 utc | 26 Thought I’d share the website http://www.aymennjawad.org/ as it might be of interest to people who post on/read this blog. Posted by: Daniel | Mar 10 2020 20:58 utc | 27 interesting stats from over at Time magazine – 0.6% is pretty small Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 10 2020 20:58 utc | 28 JB @21– @JB #21 Posted by: c1ue | Mar 10 2020 21:01 utc | 30 karlof1 @ 18 Posted by: J Swift | Mar 10 2020 21:06 utc | 31 @10 vk
Thanks for the links…interesting reading. Posted by: Daniel | Mar 10 2020 21:11 utc | 32 Putin is good for another two six year terms. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2020 21:38 utc | 34 Posted by: J Swift | Mar 10 2020 21:06 utc | 31 Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 10 2020 21:49 utc | 35 Posted by: Virgile | Mar 10 2020 18:02 utc | 4 Posted by: somebody | Mar 10 2020 21:49 utc | 36 Posted by: somebody | Mar 10 2020 21:49 utc | 36 Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 10 2020 21:59 utc | 37 @virgil 4 Posted by: Arata | Mar 10 2020 22:13 utc | 38 Regarding Putin and MBS on the oil. Who funds and supports HTS al qaeda in Idlib. I am guessing the Saudi’s have a big input there. Reports some time back that the drones AQ was using to attack the Russian airbase used high tech US components. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 10 2020 22:17 utc | 39 @ peter… the syrian war grounds seems like one big military equipment experiment for the big players… another turn off on this war as i see it… same shit from the same usual suspects… meanwhile innocent people suffer.. we need to grow a different world.. this ain’t it.. Posted by: james | Mar 10 2020 22:22 utc | 40 I recall ex UK ambassador Peter Ford saying somewhere last year that the Saudis were outspent by an order of magnitude by Qatar in Syria. That Qatar is funding like 80% of it all. Things may have shifted a bit since. Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Mar 10 2020 22:23 utc | 41 Peter AU 1 @34– @ 41 tuyzentfloot.. in a race to see who can suck up to the usa-uk-israel more, maybe it’s a close race… i would be curious..i guess turkey isn’t in the running anymore? Posted by: james | Mar 10 2020 22:30 utc | 43 re somebody | Mar 10 2020 21:49 utc | 36 Posted by: A User | Mar 10 2020 22:37 utc | 44 Virgile @ 4, Daniel @ 11: Posted by: Jen | Mar 10 2020 22:41 utc | 45 Re: Iran’s surprising high-rate of infection. Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Mar 10 2020 23:10 utc | 46 Posted by: JB | Mar 10 2020 20:39 utc | 21 Posted by: larry | Mar 10 2020 23:12 utc | 47 Why has Italy not try very hard to scale up hospital bed capacity for the surge of cases over the last several days? They have deployed a military hospital but it doesn’t look like it’s making a big dent. Instead reports are now coming in of abandoning very old people or those with prior conditions to die largely unattended. Posted by: coronawhy | Mar 10 2020 23:24 utc | 48 Offguardian. org`s twitter feed(@OffGuardian0) have some interesting comments about the corona virus, checking their site is also not a waste of time.. Posted by: Per/Norway | Mar 10 2020 23:35 utc | 49 The demise of oil is overstated and the rise of renewables is also. Electric cars? Where do you think the power is going to come from? Forget nukes and hydro as well healed enviros will fight to the death to stop them. Japan is closing their nukes and going to coal. Same with Germany. Without a way to store electricity renewables are a lost cause that needs fossil backup. Molton salt lovers won’t tell you about the huge solar molton salt plant near Tonopah Nevada that’s been mothballed for a year due to being totally unreliable. Or the solar plant at Ivanpah in Nevada that has never lived up to expectations and has to have a gas plant running full time to make up for night and shortfalls. The grids, especially local grids in your neighborhood are creaky and will never handle the amount of electricity if we all go to electric cars and eliminate gas heat, gas hot water, and gas cooking in favor of electric. When they tell you how much to upgrade the grid they are only talking about the main grid and not the even larger expense of upgrading the local. Some Australian neighborhoods have had grid failure with half a dozen electric cars charging at once. Posted by: snedly arkus | Mar 10 2020 23:48 utc | 50 Regarding KSA and their oil gamble – if I were Houthi strategist, I would wait for a while for KSA to get knee deep into this experiment, then launch missile attack on their biggest refineries and pipes. With one salvo whole KSA statehood could be shattered. Sweet sweet revenge and guarantee not to get oppressed by KSA genocidal maniacs in future. Posted by: Abe | Mar 10 2020 23:58 utc | 51 Well here’s a thing ! Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 11 2020 0:13 utc | 52 Peter AU 1 @ 34: Posted by: Jen | Mar 11 2020 0:26 utc | 54 Nemesiscalling @ 46
Links to examples? Posted by: pogohere | Mar 11 2020 0:26 utc | 55 Adding to his woes, Erdo will now turn his focus to COVID-19 as Turkey reported its first case. Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 11 2020 0:34 utc | 56 @larry 42 Posted by: ARN | Mar 11 2020 0:39 utc | 57 and regarding how much oil is left in Saudi even here they are calling them liers.. Posted by: ARN | Mar 11 2020 0:43 utc | 58 @55 pogo Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Mar 11 2020 0:55 utc | 59 DG @ 2 Posted by: Really?? | Mar 11 2020 1:18 utc | 60 Further to my above @ 52 Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 11 2020 1:21 utc | 61 Jen Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2020 1:36 utc | 62 reJen@54 Posted by: A User | Mar 11 2020 1:56 utc | 63 This is odd, the John Hopkin’s Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases dashboard no longer shows cases at the U.S. city level, only state level summaries. Are they no longer capable of collecting data at the city level? I’m going to contact them and try to find out what’s going on. Posted by: Trisha | Mar 11 2020 1:57 utc | 64 Posted by: snedly arkus | Mar 10 2020 23:48 utc | 50 Posted by: Really?? | Mar 11 2020 2:06 utc | 65 Nemesiscalling @ 58 Posted by: pogohere | Mar 11 2020 2:29 utc | 66 Germany throws the towel: @ Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2020 1:36 utc | 61 JB #21
Is there a west to east bird migration at this time? Or could a large flock of birds been released to fly west from another unfriendly country? Given the viability of the virus there is always a chance that birds could act as vector. Wild birds do carry virus that severely impact on caged chickens and pigeons etc and mass deaths are common enough. But that might just be my imagination. I will research that possibility. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 11 2020 2:47 utc | 69 Daniel @ 32 Posted by: Chris | Mar 11 2020 2:51 utc | 70 joe rogan interview today with Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology from today… Posted by: james | Mar 11 2020 3:16 utc | 71 coronawhy #48
Italy: neo-liberal economic worship, all government bad, all private sector good, corruption good, banks worshipped as faultless guardians but actually kleptocrats. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 11 2020 3:26 utc | 72 Uncle Tungsten @ 71: Posted by: Jen | Mar 11 2020 3:48 utc | 73 . Posted by: lfurr99@australiamai | Mar 11 2020 4:30 utc | 75 @ 73 ben – my pleasure! i liked the first part on the coronavirus and his take.. i find those rogan interviews way too long generally.. i don’t have that kind of time! Posted by: james | Mar 11 2020 4:57 utc | 76 @21 JB Posted by: Ario | Mar 11 2020 5:16 utc | 77 JB @ 21 Posted by: dltravers | Mar 11 2020 6:10 utc | 78 interesting stats from over at Time magazine – 0.6% is pretty small. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 11 2020 6:30 utc | 79 @10 vk Really?? #64
Ahem, consider this for 100% renewable energy from the University of New South Wales. A design for Australia and the world. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 11 2020 7:27 utc | 81 Simple question: Is there a problem in posting comments on this web site when using a few HTML tags in the comment ? I tried twice yesterday to post and both time the comment never appeared. Posted by: Tom_LX | Mar 11 2020 7:37 utc | 82 Jen #72 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 11 2020 7:39 utc | 83 Helmer prefers Levada poll. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Mar 11 2020 7:43 utc | 84 Peter AU1 #83 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 11 2020 9:11 utc | 85 Tom_LX #81 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 11 2020 9:19 utc | 86 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 11 2020 9:19 utc | 85 Posted by: Tom_LX | Mar 11 2020 9:33 utc | 87 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Mar 11 2020 9:19 utc | 85 Posted by: Tom_LX | Mar 11 2020 9:43 utc | 88 @Daniel #27:
Thank you. It really is an interesting and useful site. For example, if one’s relatives, friends, co-workers or acquaintances start the “democratic activists” lament again, one can send them a link to this article:
Or to this article:
Posted by: S | Mar 11 2020 9:59 utc | 89 #72 Posted by: JW | Mar 11 2020 10:31 utc | 90 james @ 71. I agree that Michael Osterholm is someone worth listening to Posted by: financial matters | Mar 11 2020 11:05 utc | 91 electric renewables are a lost cause that needs fossil backup. by: snedly arkus @ 50 <= wake up.. multi-many renewable technologies are on the rise.. China's is the undisputed leader of renewable powered automobiles. (EVs). Humanity could save enough energy to run all automobiles on earth if government would just use the money it steals from the governed to build bridges and overpasses instead of forcing traffic to stop for lights to waste gas and to be spied on. . Oil and gas use will be outlawed.... Ahem, consider this for 100% renewable energy from the University of New South Wales. A design for Australia and the world. by: uncle tungsten @ 81 <=right on. Personally I am aware of a large private project using basically the technology shown in the video, to produce massive quantities of off grid energy from renewable sources, it is my understanding the project has copyrighted the software and patented the technology in small pieces as open source so the whole world can have the technology and use it royalty free. Beat the users of government at their own game. No more patented, armed, war making, monopoly powered energy companies. Everyone just produces the power they need. Posted by: snake | Mar 11 2020 11:19 utc | 92 More circumstancial evidence South Korea is failing to contain the virus:
My bet is that, since the South Korean government can’t do preventive quarantine of private business (because of the obvious fact it is a capitalist society), they are chasing the virus where it bursts, quarantining the place where it is already given is a cluster. That will make the South Korean map look like Swiss cheese – at best.
US Marines Arrive on Yemen’s Island of Socotra to Back UAE Posted by: Bemildred | Mar 11 2020 12:46 utc | 94 Covid as a mass destruction Posted by: Virgile | Mar 11 2020 13:04 utc | 95 Bemildred | Mar 11 2020 12:46 utc | 94 AD Yemen Posted by: Walter | Mar 11 2020 13:06 utc | 96 Is there a problem in posting comments? [.] I tried twice yesterday to post and both time the comment never appeared. Posted by: Likklemore | Mar 11 2020 13:35 utc | 97 according to Russian Times the USA has admitted its goal in Syria is to prevent Posted by: snake | Mar 11 2020 14:12 utc | 98 @lfurr99@australiamai #75
The amendments will prohibit foreign citizenship and foreign bank accounts for the president, members of parliament, ministers, heads of federal agencies, governors, ombudsmen, judges and prosecutors. Posted by: S | Mar 11 2020 14:24 utc | 99 COVID-19 puts neoliberalism on its knees: |
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