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February 23, 2020

The MoA Week In Review - Open Thread 2020-14

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

Related:
Putin keen to cool Turkish hawk down - Pepe Escobar

An hour ago the Russian air force bombed a convoy of Jihadis and Turkish soldiers near Jabal al Zawiyah. Syrian artillery fired on another Turkish convoy. There were Turkish casualties in both incidents. Erdogan can do nothing about it except to order his troops to retreat.

Related:
Intelligence Sources: All Candidates Are Russian Agents But Pete Buttigieg - Caitlin Johnstone
National Security Experts Dismiss ‘Hysteria Over Russia’ Allegedly Supporting Bernie Sanders Law and Crime

“One of the best ways to undermine American democracy is for the media to constantly tell Americans that our democratic system is run by a foreign power, that polls [and] debate outcomes are based not on the appeal of our politicians but from the invisible hand of an enemy government,” explained Northeastern University Associate Professor and Quincy Institute Fellow Max Abrahms.

Other issues:

Long reads on the changing global role of the U.S. of A.:

America in Distress: The Challenges of Disadvantageous Change - Chas Freeman
Trump’s Vanished ‘Liberal Middles’ - Alastair Crooke

Netanyahoo asks Al Thani to finance Hamas:

Mossad Chief Visited Doha, Urged Qataris to Continue Gaza Financial Aid - Haaretz

Use as open thread ...

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So the Dow seems to be down about 1000 points, 27,900 something.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 24 2020 18:13 utc | 201

Fear is a form of brain injury.
Posted by: Walter | Feb 24 2020 16:30 utc | 187

Yes, agreed, and like all the pre-existing medical conditions should be treated on-going-ly.
The US soldier interviewed after the attacks said something like – no one should be treated like this, not realizing that, this, is exactly what his bosses have him do onto others.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 24 2020 18:22 utc | 202

Mayor Pete's marriage to his husband fits perfectly into his fairy tale life and story as he shoots to the top echelons of the putrid imperial elite. He met husband Chasten online in June of 2015. Chasten was working as a temp middle school drama teacher and starbucks barrista; the youngest of 3 from a poor Traverse City non college educated "deplorable" family. He ditched his last name when he married pete and now is the home maker. Seems like a nice guy.
My prediction: Pete will drop him. The people who purchased his soul are very class/power conscious.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483905-chasten-buttigieg-ive-been-dealing-with-the-likes-of-rush-limbaugh-my

Posted by: michael | Feb 24 2020 18:23 utc | 203

197

Concur that the COVID-19 will soon show up at the targets mentioned.

I am impressed by the figures concerning several countries.

In the US, of 53 that are infected, 5 have recovered and none is in intensive care. No deaths at all.

In Iran, out of 47 infected, 12 have died already, only 3 have recovered.

Something is fishy. IT is really a puzzling situation. Are the US of A using the vaccine to the COVID-19
on their patients? How come no deaths? How come none in serious condition?

Posted by: CarlD | Feb 24 2020 18:24 utc | 204

William Gruff | Feb 24 2020 17:11 utc | 194 "Journalist"

A journalist keeps a journal. This can be fictional. Many writers keep journals, and some write entries just for the function of selling their fiction. Think "Naked Lunch"...that's made up from journal jottings.

A diarist keeps a diary. That's assumed to be honest.

A "publisher" pays journalists to write fiction for money. Sometimes the fiction is almost true, but not very often.

Publishers need money...so do journalists.

Posted by: Walter | Feb 24 2020 18:29 utc | 205

CarlD @204

The influenza vaccine is actually a cocktail of vaccines. It may be that an additional one above what is in the glossy brochure was mixed in.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 24 2020 18:29 utc | 206

Ike | Feb 24 2020 18:08 utc | 200 Forget "Whatdoesitmean"... or at the very least treat it with contempt and doubt.

Posted by: Walter | Feb 24 2020 18:30 utc | 207

snake @161 links to an essay by Mark Weber, "Collusion: Franklin Roosevelt, British Intelligence, and the Secret Campaign to Push the US Into War," which opens with the following paragraph:

"We’ve heard a lot recently about alleged secret and illegal collaboration by prominent Americans with foreign governments. Collusion is widely regarded as so malign and disgraceful that any official who cooperates with a foreign power in an underhanded way is considered unfit to hold public office. In particular, politicians and media commentators have been charging that devious cooperation by Donald Trump with the government of Ukraine or Russia renders him unfit to be President." [My Emphasis]

I've bolded the primary premise of which there're massive numbers of publicly available examples, one of which is due to happen in the near future--the AIPAC Conference. Yes, the most visible evidence whereby the majority of US government office holders are shown colluding with a foreign power occurs quite often and isn't restricted to the one above mentioned conference. Which immediately begs the question about the author's premise: If it's true, and evidence of such collusion is readily available, then why are all those people still in office? Isn't it manifestly clear and unambiguous that the Zionist entity ruling Occupied Palestine is the second largest meddler in US politics and elections after the CIA? Why is it perfectly kosher for Zionists to meddle whereas anything/anybody Slavic is a massive NYET? Shouldn't this be news if such meddling is so damned important? I know the essay's subject is about history from 80+ years ago, but isn't the point I'm raising far more important since we can't alter the past? I note Sanders has declined to attend AIPAC--again. I'll let the reader go to the link to read Sanders's comments and the sneering reply by AIPAC. (Warren is also not attending, this time.) Seems Bernie's more concerned about consorting with the #2 agent of collusion and meddling in US politics than the recurrence of the Russian disinformation psyop.

As for the essay itself, it fails to mention even once the reasons behind the collusion of FDR with Churchill--the series of Neutrality Acts that were meant and did tie FDR's hands in getting the USA into WW2. Since the author fails to examine the primary cause for the collusion, the essay fails. Yes, the Neutrality Acts were very powerful in restricting the powers of what was and now continues to be the philosophy of Unilateral Action by the Outlaw US Empire's executive, and they were the reason why the National Security Act of 1947 needed to be passed as the UN Charter now stood in the way along with the Neutrality Acts. A better premise for such an essay would examine the who and when behind the writing of the National Security Act as that one piece of likely unconstitutional legislation has done more to inhibit freedom and democracy within and without the USA than any collusion with any nation ever could.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2020 18:37 utc | 208

@ 196 juliania.. thanks for the quote from 'howards end' e m forster... i have never read any of their work.. on the other hand i have enjoyed wallace stegner, wendell berry and a number of other fiction writers, some of them canucks! fear is a funny thing.. on the one hand it is natural, but when it is disproportionate to the situation it becomes irrational.. if we lived in a world where we thought everyone was a part of us, we would respond differently then where we think everyone is out to get us and do us trouble.. personally i am coming to the conclusion capitalism doesn't help matters.. well, i am getting sidetracked now! thanks..

Posted by: james | Feb 24 2020 18:45 utc | 209

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2020 18:37 utc | 208

Re: Collusion: it jars my nerves every time they make that assertion, collusion is the lifeblood of US politics, it's what they do. It's a bunch of cliques all colluding against each other.

Another one that annoys me is this babble about Iran & Russia's "malign behavior", they keep repeating it like it was effective, boy dictionaries can be dangerous. I have to ask: "so what else is foreign policy mostly about?"

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 24 2020 18:49 utc | 210

Listened to a conversation about Socialism on Democracy Now this morning between Krugman and Wolff. Not one mention of Mixed Economy, which is the economic driver in virtually all the nations we're taught are Socialist. Sometimes, IMO, these over educated experts can't see the forest for the trees. Rank and file needs a much more simplistic definition for Democratic Socialist, and, IMO, Mixed Economy fits the bill.

Obviously, I feel it's critical to define Democratic Socialism for the masses who equate anything Socialist with Communism.

pyschohistorian has a public bank obsession, and I have a mixed economy obsession.

Posted by: ben | Feb 24 2020 18:51 utc | 211

Bemildred @ 210 asked;" I have to ask: "so what else is foreign policy mostly about?"

IMO, to perpetuate the empire's brand of predatory capitalism by eliminating competitors by any means necessary, and stealing their resources.

Posted by: ben | Feb 24 2020 19:01 utc | 212

I disagree completely with the following premise of the author:

"If Democrats are looking for Obama 2.0—an inspirational figure with the drawing power of a rockstar celebrity and a mass, multiracial movement behind him—they've found it."

First, if Democrats still value Obama, they are insane as he stabbed them in the back as soon as his oath was administered, and it only worsened from there. Second, Sanders is proposing policies that Obama never articulated, so no valid comparison can ever be made between the two. The upshot is that destroys the remainder of the op/ed and its proposals. Writers must get it out of their system and understand there's zero validity in any comparison between Obama and Sanders or between the supposed movement generated by the former in comparison with the latter's. Indeed, one way to smear Sanders is to tarnish him with being akin to Obama.

Here's Sanders latest policy proposal, which is also something Putin's proposed as part of Russia's National Priorities:

"Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday morning unveiled a sweeping new proposal that would guarantee high-quality child care and then pre-kindergarten education to every child—regardless of income or status—in the United States."

Unfortunately, Sanders continues to use a falsehood within his campaign rhetoric. Lets see how many barflies can spot in in the following quote taken from the same link above:

"We know that the first four years of a child's life are the most important years of human development, so it is unconscionable that in the wealthiest country in the world, we do not properly invest in early childhood education."

Yes, it does hinge on a definition. Mine and its related table are here.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2020 19:08 utc | 213

@ Posted by: ben | Feb 24 2020 18:51 utc | 211 with the mixed economy obsession

I support your mixed economy obsession and agree that economic reality is being obfuscated with misleading terms.

It is a feature of the followers of Hand, The Invisible that capitalism is the myth cover for private versus public/sovereign finance.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 24 2020 19:10 utc | 214

@Posted by: CarlD | Feb 24 2020 18:24 utc | 204

As an answer to your question, take a look at the following link and click through the related searches. It will be obvious instantly! uw.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Coronavirus

Posted by: Michael | Feb 24 2020 19:16 utc | 215

Saudi jihadist in Syria, Abdullah al-Muhaysini, on the proper protocol for beating one’s wife (Idlib, 2018):

If we set a good example to the wife, then the wife is bound to be influenced by this husband. The woman is raised in her husband’s home, the wife is influenced by her husband. If her husband is the best example of a good man, she is bound to be influenced by that, I repeat. So you preach to her in a nice way, second—if that doesn’t work—you abandon her bed, then you hit her—like the sheikh said earlier, on condition you don’t hurt her, hit her face, break her bones or make her bleed, and not give her a fatal blow. So it’s hitting her without inflicting pain. So if in your effort to direct her you preach to her in a nice way, and that doesn’t work, do you move immediately to the next stage, which is abandoning her bed? Abandoning the bed is an option that only the man has available to him, only a man is allowed to do that. So do you skip this second step and move directly to the third option [hitting her]? So, I repeat, first you talk to her nicely about her behavior, then second, abandoning the bed, in that order. And the option of abandoning her bed usually will force the wife to submit.

(video)

Sabine, I hope you’re making notes of what this brave Syrian human rights activist is saying!

Posted by: S | Feb 24 2020 19:17 utc | 216

@ 214 Thanks psycho, and I'll forever be saddened,that here in California, we couldn't pass a much needed, public banking proposal..

Posted by: ben | Feb 24 2020 19:18 utc | 217

I have been looking for news of Tiger force as they are usually at the main front. This is all I can find.

ZOKA
@200_zoka
Seems TF not led main attack,waiting on some other front

Y.N.M.S
@ynms79797979
More surprises from the Tigers

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 24 2020 19:29 utc | 218

@ "collusion" (from my 176 which K may not have noticed, in re Weber)

Well, why stop with FDR..."Known and unashamed pederast and mysteriously wealthy agent of France, Benjamin Franklin...." 12 year old twins girls according to a witness - not that this was disapproved of or even illegal. Lincoln colluded with the Russian Empire, of course, as the South colluded with GB.

But withal, Weber's end notes and also the body of his long essay ought to interest everybody who might give a hoot. The ties to Stephenson are, Wally thinks, especially interesting...

I agree with the criticism of Weber, and find numerous errors, dishonesty I'd say. For myself I would like to know the relationship chart that has Stephenson and Groves and the rest of the fellas, maybe would include the funny business at the Democratic Convention that dumped Wallace. It might include the ever so convenient death of FDR and so much more.

Posted by: Walter | Feb 24 2020 19:29 utc | 219

@ Posted by: ben | Feb 24 2020 19:18 utc | 217 who thinks California is not moving ahead with public banking.

LA may have failed last year but the state legislature/governor stepped up

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB857

Don't be sad, be glad!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 24 2020 19:33 utc | 220

@ 220; Thanks for the info, good on Newsom. We'll see..

Posted by: ben | Feb 24 2020 19:39 utc | 221

Second battle of Nayrab seems to be going on right now. Early claims suggest big gains for the Turkish proxies. That would not be surprising considering the way Putin has apparently sat on his hands while Turkey weaponed up, leaving Syrian forces and any Russians involved presumably massively outgunned. I guess we'll see what the next 24 hours brings.

Posted by: paul | Feb 24 2020 19:48 utc | 222

if true, another sad and embarrassing story:

On 16 February 2020, a US Army convoy lost its way in the Syrian countryside, turning up accidentally at Khirbet Hamo (near Kameshli). Visibly dumbfounded, the soldiers started shooting in all directions to protect themselves from imaginary danger, wounding a passer-by and killing a 14-year-old child. An angry crowd of some one thousand people gathered around clamoring for accountability.

The US convoy then called a nearby Russian military police brigade for help. The latter interceded between the two parties, enabling the US soldiers to wiggle out of a tight spot.


In Syria, Russian Army called to the rescue by its US "colleagues"

Posted by: Phil | Feb 24 2020 19:52 utc | 223

This is odd. I just noticed that the John Hopkins website where I've been watching global coronavirus stats suddenly is requiring a login: "Please sign in to ArcGIS Online" for which I have no credentials.

Posted by: Trisha | Feb 24 2020 19:59 utc | 224

@Trisha: Try this one.

Posted by: S | Feb 24 2020 20:03 utc | 225

Wanna see an ocean of T-Rex tears? The Telegraph’s chief Syria propagandist leaves her post and writes a self-pitying “farewell” article, her Twitter followers console her.

Posted by: S | Feb 24 2020 20:26 utc | 226

Phil 223

A US convoy was stopped at the road block. Five went through apparently but the last three were blocked and started shooting. Russian patrol filmed it from their vehicle before interceding.
What the Russians in the patrol vehicle were saying to each other has been translated. The idiots did bog two of their vehicles in the mud while turning around.
The clown at voltaire is, like duff, full of shit.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 24 2020 20:30 utc | 227

Peter AU1 @227

No need to be so defensive.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 24 2020 20:42 utc | 228

About what Gruff

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 24 2020 20:46 utc | 229


The movement to put Sanders in the White House is growing not only despite relative negligence from Sanders himself, but also despite active opposition from all (as in 100%) of the political/business establishment and all (as in 100%) the corporate mass media. This should suggest to the observant that the movement to elect Sanders has become partially independent of Sanders. Sanders is just a very convenient rallying point. by William Gruff @ 104 <= no peaceful way; Sanders will merge his interest with the deep state in order to deny the movement an icon to organize around, but I believe the moverment no longer needs Sanders.. ..

I see a bottom up refusal to accept status quo< = building at a rapid rate. More and more people understand the voters have no voice in their own governance I have asked over and over again for a detailed history of the names votes of the electoral college since 1865.. and no response, just go to a different place is all the government has thus far said. The difference between Americans and the 527 secret few who run the USA is growing at rapid rates.. The USA has isolated itself from America.

$750 billion military budget stinks. when half the nation is sleeping on park benches and in automobiles and the 1/4 of the other half is hooked on patented drugs and the other 1/4 is hooked on student loan debt. Your observation suggest, to be developing, a leaderless, bottom up, nearly invisible like minded self organizaing self emerging swelling in numbers force.. rising in opposition to the mobster controlled environment .

I think it is beyond Sanders to control their minds... more and more people are discovering the mobsters are in war against Americans. The greatest risk to a secure democratic American Society are being discovered. These risk known as social corruptors include top down controlled, privately owned, faked narrative media of any kind, search engine and AI technologies when in private, corrupt or non open source hands.

Posted by: snake | Feb 24 2020 20:46 utc | 230

Peter AU 1 @218--

IMO, Tiger forces resting, refitting prior to returning to line either tonight or tomorrow. Most action shifted South where 5th Corps is. IMO, Tigers being reserved for storming Idlib City, which is quite close at hand.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2020 20:47 utc | 231

Phil 223

Shit the russian should never, never trust the americans any American!.

Posted by: JC | Feb 24 2020 20:56 utc | 232

karlof1

Thanks. My thought has been that this time round, more than M4 is involved. Russia seems to be determined to completely eradicate the UN designated terrorist groups from Idlib. My thought has been that they will clear the Idlib plain to the north as well as the mountains to the south putting SAA on three sides of Idlib city.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 24 2020 20:57 utc | 233

@ Phil 223; Peter AU1 227

was this the same U.S. convoy [APC] that was pushing the Russians off the road?
(VIDEO)
'Asking for trouble?’ VIDEO shows American APC pushing Russian army jeep off road in Syria

And the Russians ended up being the good samaritan to the rescue !!

Adam Schiff, has an apology.


Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 24 2020 21:02 utc | 234

@ 227 peter au... quote "The clown at voltaire is, like duff, full of shit." welp, you can always take what is of value and ignore the rest!

most interesting article from hurriyet or sabah today... Turkish-backed SNA captures key northern Syrian village Nairab

Posted by: james | Feb 24 2020 21:09 utc | 235

Likklemore

Wouldn't know if they are the same yanks, but that incident occurred sometime after the one in which the Syrian was shot. I think there was another incident at a road block at around the time of the one where the yanks started shooting. SAA intervened in that one. The yanks said they were there to bring peace. The SAA officer replies the US brings death and destruction where ever it goes.
That incident was recorded on video. You've got to wonder about these yanks saying something like that after Trump has publicly stated the US is there to take the oil.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 24 2020 21:09 utc | 236

The final numbers are in for the Iowa caucus.

Summary of the race

  • Sanders has won the most delegates in two of the state elections and tied in a third.
  • The three races so far have produced 100 delegates.
  • delegate totals:
    - Sanders 45

    - Buttigieg 25

    - Biden 15

    - Warren 8

    - Klobachar 7

  • Sanders has done very well but still has only 45% of delegates.

The next Primary Contests

The Democratic Party Primary calendar is set up in a way that crushes progressive momentum after Nevada. South Carolina and Super Tuesday are like a one-two punch for progressive candidates. South Carolina is one of the most conservative states and Super Tuesday has so many contests on one day that it favors well-funded candidates (like Bloomberg).

Biden is leading in South Carolina and many women or LGBT voters will vote for Warren, Klobachar, or Buttigieg (sapping Bernie's strength).

Concerns about Bernie

If Bernie was true to his "Democratic Socialist" principles, he would be DEMANDING that the Party nominate the candidate with the most delegates instead of promoting 'party unity' and pledging to support ANY Democratic Party nominee.

Some will say that Bernie will have that fight at the convention. That this is not the time. But Bernie's unilateral disarmament was never forced upon him - he has chosen to undermine his campaign.

Warren as Kingmaker?

Warren's positions are closes to Bernie's. Theoretically, she could ask her delegates to vote for Bernie on the second ballot.

Note: It's uncertain at this time if that would be sufficient for Bernie to become the nominee.

But if she did, then she would be in a position that could enable her to be a VP.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 24 2020 21:20 utc | 237

@237 Correction: The final numbers are in for the Nevada caucus.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 24 2020 21:23 utc | 238

13 more turkish soldiers and many more injured by the russian and syrian war planes, confirmed by turkish and russian media:

https://southfront.org/13-turkish-soldiers-were-killed-in-airstrike-in-southern-idlib-reports/

The sposkesman of the turkish presidency said again the end of february is the deadline for the syrian regime to leave Idlib, if not...

https://twitter.com/TRTWorldNow/status/1231975051282599937

Well we'll see if the turks can scare the ruskies (I doubt)

Posted by: DFC | Feb 24 2020 21:24 utc | 239

james

Bullshit is bullshit whichever side of the fence it comes from. Every assertion at those types of sites has to be thoroughly researched to separate fact from fiction. Rarely links to back up assertions. Lot of time wasted researching and usually nothing new learned. The voltaire piece is a straight out fiction based around and incident that occured. I think by the 19th when the piece was written, it was known that the 14 year old was in fact a 21 year old.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 24 2020 21:31 utc | 240

News about vaccine for corona virus..

https://globalbiodefense.com/2020/02/23/university-of-queensland-covid-19-vaccine-goes-into-test-production/

Posted by: ARN | Feb 24 2020 21:36 utc | 241

psychohistorian@220 - Greetings ph. Interested to hear your thoughts (or anyone else's) on this article considering your passion about our clown world finance situation:

The History of Debt Cancellation and Austerity in Europe

Never thought much about debt cancellation instead of/preventing revolution. Such apostate thinking!

Posted by: PavewayIV | Feb 24 2020 21:36 utc | 242

Saudi jihadist in Syria, Abdullah al-Muhaysini, on the proper protocol for beating one’s wife (Idlib, 2018):

Posted by: S | Feb 24 2020 19:17 utc | 216

Hardly new. There are whole books in Saudi Wahhabi legal literature about what one is allowed to do to one's wife, of which this is presumably a simple copy. No, I haven't read any of them, as not worth the investment of time. A common issue brought up is, if you're married, do you need to consult your first wife before taking a second? The answer given is no.

Posted by: Laguerre | Feb 24 2020 21:49 utc | 243

PavewayIV 242.
Karlof1 one has also been interested in that and has commented many times in the past on Hudson and debt cancellation.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 24 2020 21:54 utc | 244

Posted by: CarlD | Feb 24 2020 18:24 utc | 204

“Something is fishy. IT is really a puzzling situation. Are the US of A using the vaccine to the COVID-19 on their patients? How come no deaths? How come none in serious condition?”

I suspect its about who is getting tested. US is testing anyone with or without symptoms that came from China or had contact with anyone who tested positive. In another time none of these get tested or reported, and since they are mild or asymptomatic no deaths.

In Iran, due to sanctions testing is probably limited so I would guess only pneumonia cases who came from China or had contact with someone who did are tested. Hence those who test positive are more serious. So in Iran I imagine they have many more cases that are undiagnosed and not reported. Like in Hubei where only the most serious cases were tested which inflated the case fatality rate compared to outside Hubei.

Also with a fatality rate less than 1% outside Hubei, its not unusual for no deaths among 50 confirmed cases. Based on Irans fatality rate I expect they should 1-2,000 cases. Now maybe their testing is not specific and they are overstating the deaths. Its unclear how different countries confirm these cases. Even China has several different tests and criteria for classifying cases which has caused lots of confusion over the reported numbers

Posted by: Pft | Feb 24 2020 22:04 utc | 245

@89
a lot of people don't seem to understand that Russiagate, obviously designed by the CIA/DNC/HRC regime, was created to stop Sanders as much as Trump.

Posted by: urblintz | Feb 24 2020 22:05 utc | 246

Regarding Sanders POTUS campaign and his proposals, I'm strongly advocating they be framed within what The Founders designed and desired the Constitution perform as told to us via the Constitution's Preamble:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

The Wiki discussion linked above provides some very important points about the Preamble that actually make it the initial amender of the Constitution. The following is of utmost importance and something willfully ignored/omitted in USA's political discourse almost since it was written:

"The Preamble to the United States Constitution, beginning with the words We the People, is a brief introductory statement of the Constitution's fundamental purposes and guiding principles. Courts have referred to it as reliable evidence of the Founding Fathers' intentions regarding the Constitution's meaning and what they hoped the Constitution would achieve.

IMO, all of Sanders's policy proposals fall within the remit of the Preamble and thus within what The Founders intended to be achieved. And of course, this is where the longstanding anti-Socialist blather has always fallen apart when pointed out, and is also where the anti-Sanders blather falls on its face. The foundation for Progressivism is also found within the Preamble--to progressively bring the nation and its people as close to perfection as possible for imperfect humans. Note that virtually all the anti-Sanders comments posted here focus on his person, not his policies--Sanders is an imperfect human, so there're going to be imperfections in his past; but his policy proposals all point to trying to bring the social contract closer to perfection for We the People. Please note within the Wiki that it's declared the Constitution "represents a general social contract", and as such it's the mission of its designer's Posterity to improve it and bring it closer to perfection.

There's a very good reason for taking this approach. Both the Constitution an The Founders have been raised to a God-like status rendering them close to infallible and extremely difficult for anyone to argue against. Elevating The Founders to Social-Democrats immediately makes most Anti-Socialist rhetoric Un-American, although it will need to be overtly noted as such until their status becomes axiomatic.

Lastly, there's the mistaken notion that the Outlaw US Empire is the "most wealthy nation in the world," which is the misnomer I asked barflies to identify earlier. Currently, Qatar wins running away. Despite being incorrect, how can anyone proudly say such a thing when so many people are homeless, indigent, impoverished, and that overall number is close to being the same number FDR referred to in his 1937 Inaugural speech as "one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished;" in which he also invoked the magical power of the Constitution to help solve the problem:

"A century and a half ago they established the Federal Government in order to promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to the American people.

"Today we invoke those same powers of government to achieve the same objectives."

David Sirota IIRC is Sanders main speech writer. If Sanders desires to destroy his opposition and become POTUS, he must use what I present above as his #1 tool.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2020 22:13 utc | 247

PFT
"An ongoing investigation into the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) outbreak has characterized the most common CT findings associated with the virus and identified possible markers of disease progression several days after the onset of symptoms."...
... "The distinguishing characteristic for 2019-nCoV was that the imaging findings tended to appear simultaneously in the same patient, with predominant distribution in the posterior and peripheral part of the lungs."
https://physicsworld.com/a/ct-traces-disease-progression-in-novel-coronavirus/

The outbreak in Iran could be a more deadly strain, but also Iranians may not be going to a doc until they are very sick. A quite a few seem to be dying within a day or two of being admitted to hospital.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 24 2020 22:17 utc | 248

Bernie, Damn you're good!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 24 2020 22:18 utc | 249

@246
a lot of people don't seem to understand ...

... that Sanders and Trump don't actually threaten the establishment.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 24 2020 22:18 utc | 250

Peter AU1@244 - Thanks. Interesting Google search

"debt cancellation" site:moonofalabama.org ==> 11 results

debt hudson karlof1 site:moonofalabama.org ==> 150 results

debt hudson psychohistorian site:moonofalabama.org ==> 186 results

I should have checked with the CIA's indexing tool: Google, first. They know everything!

Posted by: PavewayIV | Feb 24 2020 22:19 utc | 251

I fail to understand how these soldiers got the Brain injuries while being into bunkers.

Posted by: murgen23 | Feb 24 2020 12:39 utc | 165

This wail seems incomprehensible to me. No doubt Saddam-era bunkers are not as blast-resistant as super-hi-quality blast-resistant American-built bunkers. A missile landing on or close to the roof of the bunker could indeed provoke the conditions described on the Americans cowering within. If, of course, the US is telling us the truth, which is not at all certain.

Posted by: Laguerre | Feb 24 2020 22:21 utc | 252

Laguerre
Possibly depends on explosive used. From what I understand thermobaric or fuel air warheads can create a pressure wave that penetrates into bunkers and so forth. I believe that is the intent behind the TOS-1

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 24 2020 22:27 utc | 253

Hey, weasel Pete, here's something REAL for you!

https://youtu.be/LKf4y0Ki96I

Posted by: Circe | Feb 24 2020 22:29 utc | 254

Paveway IV @242--

Yes, that was an excellent interview! Here's one that's even better that all barflies ought to watch if they haven't already and that was filmed prior to the interview linked by Paveway IV. And then there's this small round table discussion that ought to be added. Sanders Fans ought to bombard his POTUS website with the link to this last one as it shows why his proposed Wealth Tax won't work while providing suggestions on what will work to reduce the grossly immoral wealth disparity within the Outlaw US Empire.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2020 22:32 utc | 255

Paveway IV @251--

Interesting results. For karlof1 hudson moon of alabama, I get 450, which is probably about right considering the number of years covered. I don't use the term debt when invoking Hudson as much as the term empire; adding that gets us to 500; adding debt gets 444, which is also an odd result as it ought to be much less. But then that's Google, which I rarely use anymore!

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 24 2020 22:44 utc | 256

@ S | Feb 24 2020 19:17 utc | 216
". . .the proper protocol for beating one’s wife. . ."

@ Laguerre | Feb 24 2020 21:49 utc | 243

Actually, in the original language of the Koran, the terms were not "husband" and "wife." Rather, they were "man" and "woman."

Meaning, any of the allowed behaviors could be engaged in with any females in the household-- wives, nieces, servants, etc. It was not until Islamic authorities began issuing authorized translations of the Koran for readers in western countries that the language was "cleaned up" to make it more acceptable to non-muslim sensibilities.

Posted by: AntiSpin | Feb 24 2020 22:47 utc | 257

Ref. my 257, above --

Readers wanting to see the language for themselves can read it in Ch. 4, verse 34 of the Koran.

Keep in mind, again, that the language (a dialect of Arabic, spoken by Mohammed, that has since died out) uses the words man and woman, rather than husbands and wives, so that what is permitted behavior for men is permitted with respect to all females in the household.

Posted by: AntiSpin | Feb 24 2020 23:05 utc | 258

Peter AU1 #227

The clown at voltaire is, like duff, full of shit.

Yes to that. Uninformed imaginings and a pointless propagandist is that site. Voltaire would not really approve but would hedge his bets anyway. As for Duff, a raving useless turd with a ZH pen stuck in it.

On Syria, I suspect the tigers have had a rest week and the grand sweep is now underway.

I notice paul is still blaming the Russians and "Putin sitting on his hands" for the major victory of the Syrian army.
I look at the masses of Turkish armory this way: the Russians get a proxy Turk to destroy and smash all their tanks and APC's and jihadis in Turkish uniforms. A glorious proxy war for both Syrian and Russian Air Force and artillery to spit on. I notice from the videos posted here and there that there is a dramatic increase in target accuracy and strike rate compared to previous years.

Thank you Erdy for devices that concentrate jihadis into death cans for their efficient obliteration.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 24 2020 23:05 utc | 259

@ Posted by: PavewayIV | Feb 24 2020 22:19 utc | 251 with the follow up to Hudson interview link and question to me about debt forgiveness.

I would have thought that karlof1 would have more referrals to Hudson than myself but am not in a race with anyone.

Yes, debt write offs worked for the pre Roman era western society's but usurious debt collection and private finance social management has been going on for 2000+ years. It is only within the past 300 years that such a system has reached limits precipitating its failure.....faith will only get one so far

On the other hand, China has a yearly meeting of some party folks that do debt write offs for the PBC. In the West, the private folks insure that the profits and property are private and the losses and debt are public.

If someone proposed a debt jubilee today and they were not a government but some chief oligarch, wouldn't folks ask why they should have to be in debt to these transnational historical elite?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 24 2020 23:09 utc | 260

uncle tungsten "I notice from the videos posted here and there that there is a dramatic increase in target accuracy and strike rate compared to previous years."

I guess a few of Russian training will do that. Also Russian troops all along the M5 so perhaps a few specialist lending a hand with artillery.
Erdo's bigest mistake though was taking manpads to the Idlib fight. This brought Ru airforce back up to full spped, and from what I can make of it, they are doing a huge amount of damage to the jihadis plus any Turks silly enough to get in the way.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 24 2020 23:13 utc | 261

@PeterAU1, 236

The second time a US patrol tried to deviate from the agreed patrol route (14 February), they were stopped by an SAA checkpoint which was quickly backed up by villagers. The US commander told the SAA that “we’re here to bring peace like the Russians” to which the SAA officer, Lt Col Samer, replied “Wherever the US goes, it brings death and destruction. You are not welcome here.” The US patrol turned back. The confrontation was caught on a mobile phone and circulated on social media.

Posted by: cirsium | Feb 24 2020 23:28 utc | 262

Found object of derision:
Trump To Personally Sign Capitulation To Taliban

Well put by South Front. The brief story has no mention of the 'legitimate' elected government of Afghanistan.

Lets see if the 7 day cease fire holds.

That is a serious nail in the coffin of the empire. Will there be a repeat scene of the liberation tanks busting through the gates of the US embassy in Kabul as in Saigon filmed by Neil Davis on 30 April 1975.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 24 2020 23:45 utc | 263

If Iran had used thermobaric on Al Asad airbase, you wouldn't have 80 troopers with whatever brain issues they have, you'd have 80 dead US troopers with their lungs turned into pulp.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 24 2020 23:47 utc | 264

Peter AU1 #261

Erdo's bigest mistake though was taking manpads to the Idlib fight. This brought Ru airforce back up to full spped, and from what I can make of it, they are doing a huge amount of damage to the jihadis plus any Turks silly enough to get in the way.

Absolutely agree with that. Plus I guess it lost him the entire EU and perhaps UK (but I only ever bet on mendacity from them).

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 24 2020 23:49 utc | 265

Clueless Joe #264

Dead right (pardon the pun)

Percussion injuries for certain. One f'ing loud bang impacting on people cowering in poorly constructed shelters that likely are only built to stop shrapnel and flame but absolutely vulnerable to pressure wave.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 24 2020 23:53 utc | 266

the medical insurance people will get out their pitch forks over this analysis.

Projected costs of single-payer healthcare financing in the United States: A systematic review of economic analyses
https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003013

Introduction

Nine years after passage of the Affordable Care Act, 10.4% (27.9 million) of the nonelderly US population remains uninsured [1]. Lack of insurance is associated with worse health outcomes, including death [2], due to decreased access to healthcare and preventive services [3–5]. Underinsurance, defined as cost sharing that represents significant financial barriers to care or risk of catastrophic medical expenditures, is rising and is associated with a 25% or greater likelihood of omitted or delayed care [6,7]. Low-income adults with public insurance have improved access and quality of care compared to uninsured adults [8].[.]


Abstract

Background

The United States is the only high-income nation without universal, government-funded or -mandated health insurance employing a unified payment system. The US multi-payer system leaves residents uninsured or underinsured, despite overall healthcare costs far above other nations. Single-payer (often referred to as Medicare for All), a proposed policy solution since 1990, is receiving renewed press attention and popular support. Our review seeks to assess the projected cost impact of a single-payer approach.

Why was this study done?

As the US healthcare debate continues, there is growing interest in “single-payer” also known as “Medicare for All.” Single-payer uses a simplified public funding approach to provide everyone with high-quality health insurance.
Public support for provision of universal health coverage through a plan like Medicare for All is as high as 70%, but falls when costs are emphasized.
Economic models help assess the financial viability of single-payer. Yet, models vary widely in their assumptions and methods, and can be hard to compare.
What did the researchers do and find?

We found and compared cost analyses of 22 single-payer plans for the US or individual states.
Nineteen (86%) of the analyses estimated that health expenditures would fall in the first year, and all suggested the potential for long-term cost savings.
The largest savings were predicted to come from simplified billing and lower drug costs.
Studies funded by organizations across the political spectrum estimated savings for single-payer.

What do these findings mean?

There is near-consensus in these analyses that single-payer would reduce health expenditures while providing high-quality insurance to all US residents.
To achieve net savings, single-payer plans rely on simplified billing and negotiated drug price reductions, as well as global budgets to control spending growth over time.
Replacing private insurers with a public system is expected to achieve lower net healthcare costs.
[.....]

It's time. The president boasts: "We have the greatest weapons for our military. We are the greatest in the world." How many trillions? Pentagon cannot account for $715 million of weapons sent to Syria. Time to cut the military budget, giving billions to izrahell. $$$$$billions for them but none for thee.

Why should a Rx for medication made in the U.S.A cost US$195 and, same label, exported to Canada the patient cost is CAD $28.92 !! Or for a medication made in Mexico the Rx cost is $100 for full dosage at the Pharmacy; when exported to the U.S. patient cost with a 90 minutes stay (for a snake bite) in ER is billed $89,000.!!! Oh, and after patient's insurer kicks in the patient is stuck with a $25,000 balance out-of-pocket. Wow.

There are other verifiable examples.

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 25 2020 0:04 utc | 267

barflies, please read the new jonathan cook. i shan't link to it, as i should hate to screw up the formatting. his post is brilliant & a must read.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Feb 25 2020 0:15 utc | 268

snake @ 230

This combo is great!

a leaderless, bottom up, nearly invisible like minded self organizaing self emerging swelling in numbers force.. rising in opposition to the mobster controlled environment

that is a

top down controlled, privately owned, faked narrative media of any kind, search engine and AI technologies when in private, corrupt or non open source hands.

I'll trade you that for this:

that doesn’t make these kleptos [billionaires] the deep state per se. That would be the mil-ind-rogue intelligence agency-pharma-int’l drug cartel-BIS-anglo zio consortium that fosters life-time actors, some of whom are billionaires, as the public face of the Spenglerian decline (“westlessness” anybody?) we are living.

Sanders will play his part in the never-ending divide-and-conquer routine that provides the script for this “Truman Show” in which the author of the article in question, especially in his comments, explains that BS needs to avoid mentioning the facts (“call out the DNC for rigging the election)” in order to play the game successfully. BS may even be sincere. He, in effect, is really just Obama in white face.


Posted by: pogohere | Feb 25 2020 0:17 utc | 269

U.S. Stocks Plunge as Coronavirus Crisis Spreads

So, the West has a choice: either accept and begin to treat China as the superpower it is or continues with its road to ruin.

Posted by: vk | Feb 25 2020 0:37 utc | 270

Likkelmore @267--

Yeah, I saw this item reporting on that paper earlier today, but hadn't gotten around to commenting on it. The headline and main intro spell it out quite clearly:

"Here's What 22 Separate Studies Found: Medicare for All Would Cost Less Than the For-Profit Status Quo: No matter how you design a single-payer public health insurance system, it would have lower overall health care costs, so long as for-profit private health insurers no longer exist to drive up health care costs."

Eliminating the "health" insurance part of what Insurance companies offer won't put them out of business since so many of their products are mandated by government and financial institutions, and coders and other billing related workers will still have jobs working for the Single Payer. Demand for such workers and health services will see a massive increase such that many new jobs will be needed to be filled, while the number of qualified applicants will fall short for 4-8 years or more. Where I live, we already have a housing shortage that prices such workers out of the market that negatively affects health service providers, and I know ours isn't the only such area with that problem. So, getting Single Payer established won't be an instant cure-all as there're still many associated problems that also need fixing to get to an equitable state.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 25 2020 0:40 utc | 271

cirsium 262

Thanks for posting that. I have seen that video but did not remember exact wording of the exchange.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 25 2020 0:41 utc | 272

Likklemore #267

It's time. The president boasts: "We have the greatest weapons for our military. We are the greatest in the world." How many trillions? Pentagon cannot account for $715 million of weapons sent to Syria. Time to cut the military budget, giving billions to izrahell. $$$$$billions for them but none for thee.

Why should a Rx for medication made in the U.S.A cost US$195 and, same label, exported to Canada the patient cost is CAD $28.92 !! Or for a medication made in Mexico the Rx cost is $100 for full dosage at the Pharmacy; when exported to the U.S. patient cost with a 90 minutes stay (for a snake bite) in ER is billed $89,000.!!! Oh, and after patient's insurer kicks in the patient is stuck with a $25,000 balance out-of-pocket. Wow.

There are other verifiable examples.

Here is a verifiable example of how bad the USA ranks in healthcare. Note Israel does much better and all funded by the socialist USA.

Socialism for the military, the miners, the billionairs, the Israel, the arms corporations, the CIA, the FBI, the tax free 'charities', the whatever... but the rest of you, the people of the USA can pay your taxes, pay your health care costs, pay for the banks blunders, and shut up.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 25 2020 0:57 utc | 273

@ 240 peter au.. i mostly agree about the voltaire site... i had only read the one article by duff and thought it was good for some info.. but yes - bullshit is bullshit and it is good to call it that.. and if these sites get labelled that way based on a regular serving of that - then that is good too..

Posted by: james | Feb 25 2020 1:03 utc | 274

emersonreturn #268

barflies, please read the new jonathan cook. i shan't link to it, as i should hate to screw up the formatting. his post is brilliant & a must read.

Thanks emersonreturn, did you mean this story on UK leadership hands tied by Israel?

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 25 2020 1:06 utc | 275

Phil | Feb 24 2020 19:52 utc

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 25 2020 1:24 utc | 276

Phil | Feb 24 2020 19:52 utc

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 25 2020 1:24 utc | 277

Phil | Feb 24 2020 19:52 utc

The missing part of the story is the Americans entered territory controlled by SAA, and the locals are either in SAA or in the local Assyrian militia allied with SAA. The were not supposed to be there and with Russian near by, sending American "rescue" could lead to super-power incident. Not impossible, but they would need authorization from Pentagon, and Pentagon. from White House.

SAA Qamishli enclave is on all maps of zones of control, a part of the town, the military airport to the south and a cluster of villages.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 25 2020 1:35 utc | 278

emersonreturn @268

Sorry, in his essay How we stay blind to the story of power Jonathan Cook gets it wrong. He doesn't see the bigger picture and I think he doesn't really understand US/Empire politics.

I wonder if he really doesn't care to look deeper.

Sure, he says some interesting things about power but he fails to see that Sanders has proven himself to be a useful tool of the power establishment and that Sanders' call for 'party unity' and his declaration that he will support the Party nominee - whomever that may be - are betrayals of those who support his insurgency (it's not a proper Movement).

He also fails to note that Russiagate is McCarthyism. Sanders could and should call it out as such. But as Jimmy Dore notes (ht Blue Dotterel @191), Sanders reinforces Russiagate instead of debunking it.

Apologists say that Sanders HAS TO play the game. But then they tell us that as a socialist/progressive he's the real deal. That's bullcrap. We've already seen Sanders betray his movement in 2016. If he wants our trust, he's got to show that he deserves it.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 25 2020 1:35 utc | 279

Craig Murray: Assange Hearing Day 1

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 25 2020 1:41 utc | 280

@ jackrabbit - how are you voting this coming usa election? i am curious of your short term answer for the present here given where the usa is... thanks..

Posted by: james | Feb 25 2020 2:02 utc | 281

james @281

In the primary I would vote for Sanders.

I've already said that he's got the best policy platform and a vote for Sanders is disruptive.

But I don't expect Bernie will win. I expect a brokered convention that will result in an establishment nominee and concessions to Bernie.

Bernie will declare victory and urge his supporters to vote for the Democratic nominee.

This is where it gets interesting.

In light of Bernie's betrayal. I would urge all Bernie supporters to vote for the next best alternative: the Green Party.

Do what Bernie will not: burn down the Democratic Party machine that sells you out.

I would also urge that the formation of an independent Movement (as I have been doing). Only a genuine, independent Movement for Democracy can successfully counter the establishment/Empire mafia.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 25 2020 2:15 utc | 282

thanks jr.. that is something i agree with and relate well to... as others here know, i live in canada, but i would be doing the same as what you are advocating..

Posted by: james | Feb 25 2020 2:18 utc | 283

#31 #33
It is actually very easy for Erdogan to close the straights:
Flood Bulgaria with refugees, topple government, new government declares war at Turkey to draw Greece in declaring too that is already flooding and new government is about to fail, (Erdogan is baiting Greece to make first step for ages) so his response will seem legitimate internationaly, Greece declares gets a crushing response Erdogan wins, Greece stays idle, Erdogan does nothing in response militarily against either country and just closes the straights which according to the treaties he has a right to if being declared war upon. Closes straights gets props from UKUSA. Erdo wins in all options.

Putin painted himself in to a corner. Should let Erdo do his thing in Syria.

Posted by: Qparticle | Feb 25 2020 2:21 utc | 284

Hopium has run it's course.

It is abundantly clear that the duopoly is a device for establishment control.

Obama, Trump, and Bernie are faux-populists offered to us by an establishment that is fundamentally anti-democratic.

The US establishment ideology is Zionist-supremist, neoconservative, and neoliberal. These ideologies promote an attitude of superiority, elite solidarity, and elite adventurism - all at the expense of the people they pretend to care about.

It is Empire vs the people. Empire asshats are at war with the world and at war with their own people.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 25 2020 2:30 utc | 285

Jackrabbit "Only a genuine, independent Movement for Democracy"

I have thought that is is only way the US can change. It needs to be a party rather than a single person trying to work up through the duopoly ranks.
As happened in Australia, any new party that starts gaining a lot of votes and seats is destroyed by the combined forces of the duopoly, so very little hope of US being able to change.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 25 2020 2:35 utc | 286

Qparticle @284:

The only problem with your scenario is that states, especially Western ones, no longer declare war. That's so . . . twentieth century.

Posted by: corvo | Feb 25 2020 2:39 utc | 287

#102

Another Mossad guy that does not like Bernie. Breitbart (breitfart) , Bannon, qanon etc "conservative alt-right" movement, long time aiding Mossed psychological cyberspace operations against American public since at least 1996. If you want to influence US politics Mossad is number #1 stop. They speak Russian extremely well too..

Seems someone painted himself in to a corner....

Posted by: Qparticle | Feb 25 2020 2:39 utc | 288

@ uncle T 273

Thank you for additional input.

it was not only virus worries that routed the stock markets today, Health insurer shares pummeled by Sanders surge,
LINK

NEW YORK (Reuters) - As concerns over the spreading coronavirus outbreak hammered U.S. stocks, one corner of the market was confronted with another potentially game-changing prospect: a Bernie Sanders nomination.[.]

Sanders, a U.S. senator whose progressive agenda includes a national Medicare for All health plan, scored a dominant win in the Nevada caucuses over the weekend, adding momentum in his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination to face off against U.S. President Donald Trump in the November general election.


The Vermont senator authored Medicare for All legislation that would essentially abolish private insurance in favor of a single government-run plan that covers every American. The ambitious proposal would cost more than $30 trillion over 10 years, according to independent analyses.

[.]


Wall Street is seeing that Bernie is electable.

Worried are they over Sanders being nominated.!!!! Just imagine; What If he takes the oath next January 2021?

In perspective: "they have modelled that Bernie's plan will cost $30 trillion over 10 years....$3 trillion per year.

Bollocks.

How much was spent on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars; and is being spent on over 800 bases overseas?

At home, the Feds have printed trillions to keep the punch bowl filled for the billionaires and failing banks - $28 trillions since 2009. What's a trillion?

And, in 2019: Add the $6.6 Trillion Repo juice in just 4 months. LINK

“According to the data made available on the public website of the New York Fed, since September 17, 2019 it has funneled a cumulative total of $6.6 trillion to some of the 24 trading houses on Wall Street that are known as its “primary dealers.” The giant sum has been sluiced to Wall Street in the form of repurchase agreement (repo) loans without any details being provided to the elected representatives in Congress as to which firms are getting the money or what it’s being ultimately used for.” (“Fed repos have plowed $6.6 trillion to Wall Street in 4 months”, Wall Street on Parade)[.]

And they label Bernie's Health plan socialism. Oh the cost, we can't afford it. He will not be allowed to take away the punch bowl.

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 25 2020 2:42 utc | 289

corvo, you forgot "modern" western states in your sentence, not backward ones, as in the case I am presenting. Trust me I know what I am talking about..

Posted by: Qparticle | Feb 25 2020 2:43 utc | 290

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 25 2020 2:30 utc | 285

Spot on JR

Posted by: Qparticle | Feb 25 2020 2:21 utc | 284

Sorry, can't agree... Putin is a master tactician... none in the other camp are even close

Posted by: xLemming | Feb 25 2020 2:45 utc | 291

karlof1 @255; Thanks for the hudson links. Yes, some folks actually read links:)...

Posted by: ben | Feb 25 2020 2:47 utc | 292

William Gruff @29

"The capitalist establishment has nothing better to do with its cash than build socialist movements so that they can then spend $billions trying to defeat those movements..."

Who knows, maybe they are trying a new way to absorb their system's surplus value, lol.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Feb 25 2020 2:57 utc | 293

#291
I honestly used to believe that too but since Trump's rise I noticed scary similarities between the two, their campaigns and their target audience, adding the fact that Mossad and what it represents as I realised was so appealing to both thousands of Russian Jews and American Jews and European Jews, I realised a truth most ordinary people wouldn't handle..
So why both Trump and Putin are supposed to be a eleven dimension chess board players? What was this all about?
Let's analyse this:
Eleven (11)
dimensions (3 physical dimensions plus time=4 and then? Another 7 "hidden" ones (?) makes us mysterious number 11?
Chess board (Masonic?)
Masters (craft?)

What does it all mean really? Master tacticians in what? World goes to Hell since they both took over..

Posted by: Qparticle | Feb 25 2020 3:26 utc | 294

Qparticle

Looking through Putin's history, he can be seen making seemingly unconnected moves until with the final moves, everything comes together and it can be seen what he was doing. Something I noticed while researching him and he now has a twenty year history to research.
Trump is a different story. Ten dimension chess comes from those who think that because Trump doesn't like endless wars, his intention is to bring a US troops home.
The problem there is that Trump is very specific about which wars he does not like.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 25 2020 3:39 utc | 295

Whether Sanders is a democratic socialist/social democrat with all the limitations and contradictions that entails, or something more nefarious matters less and less as the movement around his candidacy grows. Even if he's a sheepdog or shill, so was Father Gapon who as part of a greater plan to prevent revolutionaries from gaining influence among the masses led people to peacefully and loyally petition the Tsar for reforms—only to be cut down in what became known as Bloody Sunday.

The repression then done with bullets sparked the 1905 Revolution. I'm not saying the US is on such a verge now, although we'll see what might happen both in the convention hall and in the streets if the DNC blatantly rigs the ballots or otherwise cheats the movement around Sanders of an otherwise earned nomination. The movement now is beyond Sanders, just as it was beyond Gapon so long ago. To reconfigure Malcolm X's famous phrase, regardless of whether the repression is done by the ballot or the bullet we may be seeing the beginnings of a socialist-curious if not yet outright socialist breakout of popular consciousness from the sway of the oligarchy.

And that would be a very long-awaited opening here in the US.

Posted by: Vintage Red | Feb 25 2020 3:50 utc | 296

Now I know that what happened to Kobe Bryant was tragic, especially, when his daughter also lost her life in that tragic accident. However, I must express, that somewhere is the silenced victim of rape watching this sports legend be honored and remembered with a memorial service fit for a king in one end of the country while the irony escaped everyone everywhere that on the opposite end of the country in New York an equally powerful man and wealthy icon of the film industry was charged with rape and sent to Rikers today.

I wonder who sitting at Kobe's memorial service belongs to or supports the Me Too movement? I know JLo does, and what about Beyonce, Alicia Keys and Christina Aguilera? They were all at the memorial service and performed.

Something wrong with this picture. Just saying.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 25 2020 3:50 utc | 297

@297; As for me, Enough already. Could we please move on, guess it beats reporting real News. This nauseating display of false hero worship confirms my low opinion of the American public.

Life is sometimes tragic, but, I care as much about Kobe's passing, as he would be concerned about mine.

Posted by: ben | Feb 25 2020 4:06 utc | 298

P.S. How many other hotel workers did he shag, using his wealth and status to "convince" them to accommodate him? We'll never know.

I wish him no evil on his new journey, but if Karma's a reality, he'll pay his just dues.

Posted by: ben | Feb 25 2020 4:29 utc | 299

So tonight, I held my nose to watch Buttigieg at the town hall, cause it's good to know what rivals are up to. First of all, he spent a lot of time attacking Sanders, and there was no cheering going on. In contrast, Sanders got so many cheers and applause. I don't think Buttigieg's attacks went over well with the audience. He also blantantly LIED when asked why he was the right candidate to beat Trump and not Sanders or anyone else.
He replied that he is the only one who beat Sanders up to now!

This is a bald- faced lie! In Iowa the final count revealed Sanders was behind 1 thousandth of a so they listed the result as 26.2 for BOTH, as a virtual tie, but SANDERS WON THE POPULAR VOTE BY QUITE A LARGE NUMBER, so technically he won! And Bernie won clearly in New Hampshire and overwhelmingly in Nevada.

This is why I call him WEASEL Pete now.

And he's so inauthentic. Today the camera at one point focused on his husband who had a black man on one side and a black women on the other sitting beside him while others there were white. I mean, it looked like they sat those black folks there deliberately like props! It looked so staged and fake, I couldn't stand any more.

He's so disingenuous and arrogant.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 25 2020 4:37 utc | 300

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