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February 26, 2020

The British Kangaroo Court Proceedings Against Julian Assange

Britain is currently holding an obscene show trial against Wikileaks founder Julian Assange. The hearing is designed to end with the extradition of Assange to the United States or with his death. In the U.S. he would be accused of a conspiracy to reveal secrets and put into jail for the rest of his life.

Over the years Wikileaks has revealed material on many important issues. As Patrick Cockburn remarked: With WikiLeaks, Julian Assange did what all journalists should aspire to do. Wikileaks provided the material its sources revealed to partner media who profited from it, but then went on to betray Assange. As Kit Klarenberg wrote a few days ago: ‘They Should Be In Jail’: How The Guardian and New York Times ‘Set Up’ Julian Assange.

Those who are not familiar with the false case against Julian Assange should read this interview with Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, who provides detailed insight. In Melzer's learned view Assange, as the main editor of Wikileaks, has not committed any crime.

Melzer has also written at his medium page about the case:

The false 'rape' case in Sweden which was used to incarcerate Assange is also detailed in Marcello Ferrada de Noli's book: Sweden’s Geopolitical Case Against Assange 2010-2019. It can be downloaded for free.

That the current extradition case against Assange is crooked and that a bad outcome is likely assured can be deducted from the persons behind the current proceedings. Matt Kennard and Mark Curtis at Declassified UK have done some digging:

Craig Murray and Kevin Gosztola are in the court room to document the proceedings. Gosztola tweets live (day 1, day 2, day 3) from the Woolwich courthouse in London and provides daily write ups at Shadowproof.com:

Ambassador Craig Murray publishes daily summaries at his site:

George Galloway held a speech yesterday about the abstruse processes around the hearing. The video of it is here.

One hopes that the British court will not extradite but free Assange. Unfortunately that seems currently unlikely. But the case will be fought hard and over many month and sometimes good things do happen. 

Posted by b on February 26, 2020 at 18:37 UTC | Permalink

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Perfidious Albion. I wonder how much public support Assange has. It's hard to judge because of the onslaught of GCHQ/CIA/etc bots and shills and propaganda. I wonder, if they succeed in railroading Assange to the US for trial, what the public reaction will be.

Posted by: NoOneYouKnow | Feb 26 2020 18:55 utc | 1

please distribute as widely as possible, to friends and colleagues, the detailed descriptions of the proceedings by Gosztola and Murray. The fix may be in, but widespread public revulsion may yet save the day.

Posted by: jayc | Feb 26 2020 18:55 utc | 2

Applauds to Melzer, Murray and everyone else who fight this fight. Sadly the outcome is clear. Its either solitary confinement for life, or suicide for Julian as the only way out.
I can not conceal how i loathe the Guardian, NYT and their international partner "journalists", including the Intercept. That they have trapped and sold out Julian was clear for many years.
With only 1% or so of the Snowden leaks published too, they partnered with the US secret police state, buried most of their crimes.
Snowden will sooner or later follow. One day he will be part of a bargain with the US. Sooner or later.
While Guardian journalists and others took their Pulitzer prices, and now are buddies with the security establishement. Win Win for them, Loose Loose for Julian and Edward and everyone else.

Posted by: DontBelieveEitherPr. | Feb 26 2020 19:08 utc | 3

Those of us in the USA who have any sense of decency and integrity left are horrified to discover what the US federal government has become. We feel powerless to stop it. In a sane world Snowden, Manning, Assange, Kiriakou, Sterling would be celebrated heroes. The Clintons, Bushes, Obamas, Trumps, Clappers, Alexanders, Brennans, Comeys, Dimons, Paulsons, Blankfeins, Corzines would be shamed, stripped of their wealth, and thrown in cages to rot at a minimum. Guillotined even better.

Posted by: goldhoarder | Feb 26 2020 19:12 utc | 4

Possibly a chance for BoJo to step-up?

Posted by: jared | Feb 26 2020 19:20 utc | 5

As a former attorney, I understand the legal arguments completely but not the logic of something which is clearly a political process and should have been dismissed already. Seems to me that the world is upside down and that the West lost its moral guidelines. The FBI, for instance, is highly corrupted and the only law enforcement agency in the world able to arrest you for "lying" to them. Not even the Gestapo did that. The Brits follow their cousins blindly no matter what despite no "special relationship" being in existence. This is utterly shameful to watch. What is worse is that your enemies are watching too and nodding, their propaganda is becoming harder to deny. Wow, we are heading to troubled times - I had one book, Code Name Bella Dawn sabotaged by Amazon’s Kindle Scout Program where they simply removed negative remarks about Mr Obama. The point is this, where the courts will not act with independence free of fear and without favor but to the facts you are in very deep trouble. We know of the times that Hillarious Clinton wanted to "drone" Assange. I can only shake my head. It is sad. GMJ

Posted by: GMJ | Feb 26 2020 19:27 utc | 6

Thank you, b!

To GMJ, at the end of Craig Murray's account of day 2 he notes that the judge announced that the extradition treaty's explicit prohibition of a politically motivated extradition had no relevance since the British law describing the process doesn't mention that. She invited the defense to present arguments, presumably today. This ruling reminds me a bit of the judge's ruling that the Democratic Party can do what it likes with respect to the 'rules' for selecting a candidate. An equally outrageous nullification of rule of law priorities, it would seem to me.

He gives the matter full emphasis in the following passage describing comments between Judge Baraitser and defending attorney:

This is a literal quote:

“Are you suggesting, Mr Summers, that the authorities, the Government, should have to provide context for its charges?”

An unfazed Summers replied in the affirmative and then went on to show where the Supreme Court had said so in other extradition cases. Baraitser was showing utter confusion that anybody could claim a significant distinction between the Government and God.

Posted by: juliania | Feb 26 2020 20:13 utc | 7

Re: comment from Juliana @7 (2020/02/26 20:13 UTC):


I don’t know about UK law, but in US law international treaties are at the same level as domestic Federal law — for example, either one has supremacy over a state law. That means if a treaty and a Federal law conflict, the one that became law later is presumed to be controlling.

If that is also true in the UK, it should help Assange’s legal team refute the argument that this can’t be a political case because the UK Extradition Act (passed 2003, went into effect 2004) doesn’t mention any exception/exemption for those . . . even though the UK-US extradition treaty (which didn’t go into force untl 2007) does.

Posted by: jalp | Feb 26 2020 20:20 utc | 8

thank you b.... TORTURE - that is what they are doing to julian assange here.. and that is the history of the UK-USA actions on the world stage for some time here too.. hopefully more people wake the fuck up to it all.. justice is bought and paid for by the highest bidder... how fucked up is that?? .. democracy and justice are a complete joke... assange revealed war crimes of the usa.. for that, he must be brought down... he has interfered with the CIA's ongoing agenda...

Posted by: james | Feb 26 2020 20:31 utc | 9

Also stunning are the descriptions of the optics this British "justice" system has provided: Assange in a glass isolation cage, like some raving loony demon, waiting to escape and suck away the life of the court. Recent "defendants" that have appeared in cages at their trials are all dead, not of natural causes.

The accounts posted on CN are just astounding. Any of the defense's arguments should have put and end to this already, and all of them together just makes the presiding judge more bristling hostile.

Posted by: vinnieoh | Feb 26 2020 20:50 utc | 10

Justice is indivisible: those who favour the lynching of men like Epstein and Weinstein are hardly in a position to insist upon due process and an unprejudiced jury for those with whom they sympathise. Or, for that matter, themselves if they end up being framed, railroaded and disposed of.
As anyone, it ought to be clear, now can be.
All that is needed is for the media to smear the targeted person-Assange, Snowden or Scott Ritter- preferably charging offenses against women. No proof is needed, no evidence is ever tested, because, in the final analysis nobody really cares about any of the sexual peccadilos (tearing a condom...talking sex to a cop pretending to be underage) which are designed to serve only to induce an hysterically inclined public opinion into a homicidal rage.
This article at the WSWS-which often seems to be the last organ of the media upholding the principles of bourgeois justice- is about the Weinstein verdict. Read it and tremble.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/02/26/wein-f26.html

Posted by: bevin | Feb 26 2020 21:02 utc | 11

The whistleblowers in the US who I was connected to, and communicate with a very few to this day, have been arrested, incarcerated and tortured and for the most lost our "wealth" almost entirely. We are very fortunate to be still "sucking air". Many are dead, pity is an understatement (William Blum, e.g.). Another, wrote about "Runnaway General". Michael Hastings. Unbelievable what the vile New World Order did to him! The Agenda 21, aka Global War On Terror is not going to stop. Assange, Manning and other truly GREAT beings who have been and continue to be truly used as global scapegoats are examples. Either shut up or get shut up in a way to teach any and all free thinkers the One World Government does not intend to quit and cannon fodder is a drug of sorts. Love your blog MOA.

Posted by: Biloximarxkelly | Feb 26 2020 21:05 utc | 12

The Westpoint Whistleblower who sued Westpoint and prevailed does not reside in the USA last he and I talked. He was and is another great American hero and got away barely with his life.

Posted by: Biloximarxkelly | Feb 26 2020 21:08 utc | 13

"Britain is currently holding an obscene show trial against Wikileaks founder Julian Assange."

So they tell me.

The thing is though that Vanessa Baraitser, the judge, is the only one that can free Assange. If you're not prepared to give her the benefit of the doubt then you might as well give up and go home. Leave Julian to the Yanks if your attitude is this cynical.

I'm very disappointed with the alternative media for taking this attitude. You're little better than the MSM.

With friends like this what chance does Julian have?

Posted by: John Pretty | Feb 26 2020 21:18 utc | 14

I wish "we, the people" actually could do something to stop this. Unfortunately, we will be ignored. As will the ruling from the European Court for Human Rights which was cited last July by a lower U.K. court to prevent a couple who had their adopted Indian son murdered (with his brother-in-law as "collateral damage") from being extradited on murder charges to India. Apparently, the ruling considers "irreducible sentences" such as life in prison a violation of human rights. India appealed the lower court's decision, but last month the High Court confirmed that India's request for extradition was denied. (The coverage I read last month was unclear if the High Court's reasoning mirrored hat of the lower court.) Apparently, murdering your son is not worthy of extradition, but publishing is.

Posted by: Zee | Feb 26 2020 21:24 utc | 15

As many have voiced, we're witnessing justice Red Queen style--verdict and sentence before trial. The frame-up against Assange is more obvious than any Soviet Show Trial which tells one and all which governments are now totalitarian when it comes to the Rule of Law. Indeed, the Assange trial is all about the Rule of Law and its continued existence. If Assange is ruled against, then the Rule of Law will be deemed executed on that spot inside that courtroom and would constitute the greatest crime since the Outlaw US Empire began its series of attacks and war to obtain dominance over all in the 1990s. If The UK extradites Assange, then within it and the Outlaw US Empire the Truth will no longer be allowed to act in anyone's defense as lies will now be completely admissible and unassailable, and we all will become Enemies of the State because we strive for Truth and Justice.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2020 21:32 utc | 16

' can be deducted'

can be deduced'!

Posted by: brian | Feb 26 2020 21:39 utc | 17

As a Trumper, I'm confident that President "I love Wikileaks" sent the Sleazy Poms and the Swamp Monsters a subliminal message when the meme about him offering Assange amnesty via an intermediary seeped out. The Swamp's war on Assange is even more moronic and baseless than the Dem's idiotic Impeachment Circus. Trump sent an even stronger message when he pardoned half a dozen small-time US grifters a day or so after the Assange seep.

The message was (more or less) "Hey dimwits, if you're stupid and corrupt enough to send Assange back to AmeriKKKa I'm gonna pardon him and embarrass all of you."

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 26 2020 21:44 utc | 18

Oh, this is rich. In a complete violation of client-attorney privilege, the CIA has been spying on Assange's strategic talks with his lawyers for years...with cameras and mics installed in every one of the Ecuadorian embassy's rooms, including the ladies' room, by Spanish security team UC Global, run by Spaniard David Morales.
Australian Brdcst Co. (ABC) provides footage: abc.net.au

And Morales' "in" to get introduced to the CIA was provided by...Sheldon Adelson. english.elpais.com

Also see: here, here, here, and here.

Posted by: Imagine | Feb 26 2020 21:49 utc | 19

John Pretty @14--

In case you return after your drive-by, perhaps you'd like to explain how the judge can be considered impartial based on her behavior as described by Craig Murray:

"One consequence is that, in the courtroom itself, Julian Assange is confined at the back of the court behind a bulletproof glass screen. He made the point several times during proceedings that this makes it very difficult for him to see and hear the proceedings. The magistrate, Vanessa Baraitser, chose to interpret this with studied dishonesty as a problem caused by the very faint noise of demonstrators outside, as opposed to a problem caused by Assange being locked away from the court in a massive bulletproof glass box.

"Now there is no reason at all for Assange to be in that box, designed to restrain extremely physically violent terrorists. He could sit, as a defendant at a hearing normally would, in the body of the court with his lawyers. But the cowardly and vicious Baraitser has refused repeated and persistent requests from the defence for Assange to be allowed to sit with his lawyers. Baraitser of course is but a puppet, being supervised by Chief Magistrate Lady Arbuthnot, a woman so enmeshed in the defence and security service establishment I can conceive of no way in which her involvement in this case could be more corrupt."

How is providing the truth of the situation unfriendly to Assange and supposedly a disservice to others unable to attend? And with the Rule of Law tossed, what will exist to protect you?

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2020 21:59 utc | 20

> we all will become Enemies of the State

That has already happened. Numerous videos suggest that police agents of the State consider every civilian to be a potential "perp" or copkiller and a huge number of encounters involve the police pulling their gun. That is the behavior of an occupying military force, not "peace officers sworn to serve and protect". Not to mention that cops still kill three civilians a day. Every day. Non stop. And few seem to notice.

In Florida, a cop arrests a six year old girl for having a temper-tantrum. No shit. You can't make this stuff up. The cop brags that he has made 6000 arrests in 28 years. Just one cop!

Body camera videos show 6-year-old sobbing and pleading with officers during arrest

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Feb 26 2020 21:59 utc | 21

HW@18: Trump has not saved Assange by having him interviewed when the RussiaGate affair was blooming, nor even to date. Rather, he's done a 180-turn after being elected, and stuck a knife in J's back. See Ron Paul:.

Posted by: Imagine | Feb 26 2020 22:03 utc | 22

Trailer Trash @20--

Yep, My Cynical Devil has alit atop my left shoulder and is telling me Resistance is Futile. It's hard to reason when Unreason rules the roost. If Assange isn't allowed to do his journalism, why would Sanders be allowed to lead the nation. Is it better to die trying to remain free or to live as a cyborg enslaved to the hive?

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2020 22:20 utc | 24

John Pretty @ 14:

District Judge Vanessa Baraitser was appointed by Westminster Chief Magistrate Lady Emma Arbuthnot to preside over the extradition case. Baraitser may be taking instructions from Arbuthnot who stepped down as the presiding judge. I do not know if Arbuthnot recused herself from the case. The lack of clarity over whether Arbuthnot is influencing Baraitser's rulings may be deliberate.

Arbuthnot is known to have received financial benefits from organisations exposed by previous Wikileaks reports. She and her husband James Arbuthnot, a former UK defence minister, also received financial benefits from two organisations, Tertulias and Tatlidil, both sponsored by the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office. Tatlidil is also sponsored by the Turkish government, some of whose officials may have an interest in seeing Assange off to a US jail.

The Arbuthnots' son is the vice-president of a private equity firm with heavy investments in a cyber-security company founded by GCHQ and MI5, and staffed by former NSA and CIA officials who are backing the US government's persecution of Julian Assange.

The Arbuthnots' connections to the British military establishment are too numerous to mention but some of them can be seen and read at the links I have provided above.

Posted by: Jen | Feb 26 2020 22:24 utc | 25

@ Trailer Trash | Feb 26 2020 21:59 utc | 20

The video is heartbreaking. It is not a police officer - it is an animal (I am loath to use "he").

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 26 2020 22:57 utc | 26

@ Jen #22

Thank you for the links, one can feel the termites crawling over the carcass that was once the British Justice system.

One does not know what it takes to raise the British citizenry from catatonic slumber but if this does not do it then perhaps all hope is lost. Craig Murray's reporting from court has been simply staggering. One hopes Julian will remain in-country with chance of appeal, but let us remember this was the first arrest/extraction from inside a foreign embassy, normal rules do not apply. Reporting war crimes is far more risky than committing them it seems.

Posted by: dennis | Feb 26 2020 23:02 utc | 27

“When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you – you know your nation is doomed.” - Ayn Rand

Posted by: Dick | Feb 26 2020 23:08 utc | 28

Charlie Chan says The Assange public circus feeding frenzy will thoroughly frighten others who may wish to hold governments accountable.

Posted by: charliechan | Feb 26 2020 23:19 utc | 29

Off topic:

NATO MILITARY INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES REPEATEDLY REPORTED IN SECRET THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF A RUSSIAN BUK MISSILE IN EASTERN UKRAINE OR FIRING ON MH17

http://johnhelmer.net/open-seasame-nato-military-intelligence-agencies-repeatedly-reported-in-secret-there-was-no-evidence-of-a-russian-buk-missile-in-eastern-ukraine-or-firing-on-mh17/

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 26 2020 23:26 utc | 30

I've now read all of Craig Murray's reports for the two days of proceedings. My assessment is that despite the brilliance of Assange's defense team, the judge is already bought by the government and the verdict determined no matter how afoul the proceedings. In other words, the judge has no moral or ethical sense, ought not to be a judge, and is instead a very specific sort of rubber stamper deserving of tarring, feathering and a lamp post after completing her deed. I recall the Nazi War Criminals being given better treatment.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2020 23:46 utc | 31

unfortunately i do not think this will make it so far as the court of apples, JA will be aboard a plane & have inexplicably jumped to his death before it is even filed. the msm will seal it with, he did after all have a death wish, note it was mentioned in court. the crime of the century will go remarkably unnoticed. i find it disappointing (although i ought to know better) that even here on moa many regular commenters are more interested in the dnc than this historic casino which makes stalin's appear fair.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Feb 27 2020 0:15 utc | 32

Can any Barflies provide a link to a recent ( ish ) image of District Judge Vanessa Baraitser?

I’ve searched around but can’t find anything. I presume this is the security services protecting the corrupt rather than the innocent as usual.

Posted by: Beibdnn | Feb 27 2020 0:30 utc | 33

@ 14: Pretty lame!

Posted by: Ort | Feb 27 2020 0:38 utc | 34

@ 30 beibdnn... Vanessa Baraitser – Where Is The Public Background Profile Data On This District Judge?

point 3 in the article -
3 – Why are there no readily available mug shots on the Internet when using search keywords – ´District Judge Vanessa Baraitser´ and ´Vanessa Baraitser´

Posted by: james | Feb 27 2020 0:47 utc | 35

i see that article is from late oct 2019, but nothing seems to have changed..

Posted by: james | Feb 27 2020 0:50 utc | 36

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 26 2020 23:46 utc | 28 and John Pretty furth, and then to the Supremeer up

I think Murray and the defence team understand that there is no hope from this judge Baraitser. Even though she makes egregious errors of law, she is alone without a jury, and there's nothing to stop her. They are relying on the appeal to the Appeals Court, and then to the Supreme Court, where hopefully the judges will be more impressive. Whisking him out of the country before the appeals would be outright illegal, and not attribuable to an "error". The Supreme Court, at least, has shown independence of the government, and Johnson has not had the time to eviscerate it yet. Though Johnson has a nasty, vindictive streak, and will certainly get round to disembowelling any institution which opposes him.

Posted by: Laguerre | Feb 27 2020 1:01 utc | 37

Sorry, extraneous typing "furth, and then to the Supremeer up" in my last 34

Posted by: Laguerre | Feb 27 2020 1:04 utc | 38

This corrupt show trial is just the establishment's "Two Minutes Hate" against Assange as today's 'Robin-hood' figure (returning the people's right-to-know information to them) -- and by implication, all those like him who dare to speak truth to power. And this clearly biased bitch of a judge is just the ugly crusty face of Power drawn out by necessity from its plutocratic cave for the day.

Posted by: imo | Feb 27 2020 1:17 utc | 39

I thought that Assange had an "insurance policy." Maybe the people entrusted with it have been neutralized.

After Assange is finally imprisoned and/or killed, I expect to see Wikileaks turn into 24/7 pro-NATO propaganda. It is notable that they haven't released anything valuable in a while.

Posted by: Timothy Hagios | Feb 27 2020 1:28 utc | 40

Very nice heartfelt comments here, but so many commenters miss the main point. The elite of crooks leading the Western countries is not in the stealth mode any more. Their grip on power which equates to their personal safety and the riches that they enjoy is becoming tenuous due to people like Assange. "We the People" serve as their tax donkeys, our children as cannon fodder for their foreign pillaging adventures and discardable tools of pleasure. Although they control the Internet more and more, for a brief moment it allowed "We the People" a glimpse into the crookedness of this elite hidden behind the curtain of their constantly braying media: democracy, human rights, blah, blah, blah. The courts, the police and the media are the three pillars of their power and the Internet and "We the People" who could wake up and demand real democracy are the enemy.

Historically, there is absolutely nothing new here. Simply put, the crooked controllers are making an example of Julian Assange by drawing and quartering him in public for all to see. They are using the power of the three pillars that they control to show what will happen to any other non-establishment journalist and to show to all of us that we can do absolutely nothing about it (resistance is futile). Someone is a journalist only if their regime approves of it. They are crushing Assange's journalism with a boot of power as they would any alternative people's court or any alternative people's police.

As always in history before, this is a situation that only the pitchforks, the torches and the lampposts could solve. Everything else is a waste of time and breath.

PS This is the same Britain in which two million people went onto streets to protest the preparations for an attack on Iraq and the future killing of millions of Iraqis, to be completely ignored by the colleagues of Arbuthnots. Even if two million people were to come onto streets now to demand freedom for the journalist Assange, they would be equally ignored. Whatyagonnadoaboutit?

Posted by: Kiza | Feb 27 2020 2:02 utc | 41

Kiza

I'm for pitchforks and torches.

Posted by: lgfocus | Feb 27 2020 2:36 utc | 42

Anyone here consider that maybe Assange had ties to 5 eyes intelligence and this is all a show?

Posted by: Phresh | Feb 27 2020 3:25 utc | 43

@lgfocus 39

My aim was not to excite pitchforks and torches, just to point out that no compromise is possible with the crooked UK & US elites who are waging the three pillars of their societal control to punish Assange for not being their puppet like all of their "journalists". No peaceful change of the system that they control and use to crush dissent is possible.

If you can find the critical mass of people prepared to come out to confront the three pillars of control over the masses, then go for it (revolution!). But in the atomized contemporary society, those who understand can only come to MoA to vent their frustration from observing the perverted death-to-Assange show. On the opposite side, all the right-minded citizens will join the chorus demanding punishment.

Posted by: Kiza | Feb 27 2020 3:36 utc | 44

@40 Phresh

Currently it is 40 comments to 1 against you. So let me answer your question. Assange is and always has been an asset of USA intelligence. Everything was going fine for him and them, with their wikileaks honeypot, until he raped (according to the charges) one or two Swedish women. Ever since then, the deep state has been trying to figure out what to do with him. Seems to me, they've decided to decommission him. This is what we are seeing play out in London. 40 to 2 now, I believe.

Posted by: Simon | Feb 27 2020 3:47 utc | 45

Timothy Hagios @37:

Read up on Arjen Kamphuis.

Posted by: corvo | Feb 27 2020 3:55 utc | 46

I was listeningbto the aroundtheempire podcast. Joanne was interviewing another great whistleblower Karen Kwaitowski. Karen seems to think it is already too late. Her sources say the CIA has already tortured him and fried his brains with BZ. The CIA has apparently been making arrests of wikileaks contributors based on information tortured out of Assange. He apparently quit eating during this. For his trial they scaled back the drugs and doctors have been feeding him to gain some weight back.

Posted by: Goldhoarder | Feb 27 2020 4:00 utc | 47

Goldhoarder
No chance of him getting away or surviving now five-eyes have got their hands on him. What he will go though before he dies is not good to think about which is why I don't comment much on the subject.
For Trump, wikileaks and its crew are a great embarrassment to his exceptional US, as was the Tehran hostage drama, and an example will be made of them.


Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 27 2020 4:41 utc | 48

The only place the wikileaks crew may be safe from five-eyes is in Russia or China.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 27 2020 4:43 utc | 49

It's shoot the messenger time, as no body, no how, wants to talk about the war crimes revealed by Julian and Chelsea, those committed by the U.S. which under Nuremberg statutes would warrant a rope necklace for a whole bunch of Presidents, Vice Presidents, Secretary of States, military officers, a long long list.

Posted by: Trisha | Feb 27 2020 4:45 utc | 50

It seems the best lack all conviction with this one.

What does Julian Assange matter to your life more than a talking point and virtue signaling ?

Boomers believe anything.

Seems to me that he is a mere pawn used to promote that a biological male who thinks he’s a woman is a national hero?

These people worship paid liars and marketing ops to their own detriment... and this is one of the best corners of the internet...

Bernie Uber alles, trust the plan, indictments coming just go to work and pay taxes hombre.

Posted by: Phresh | Feb 27 2020 4:58 utc | 51

Laguerre
In Australia, courts take into account, along with law, both statutory and precedent, what they term national interest. I suspect UK will be the same. Its a fixed game. The law wins everytime.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 27 2020 5:29 utc | 52

If the UK extradites Assange, which I expect them to do, my last bit of respect for the UK terror regime will be completely gone.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 27 2020 5:50 utc | 53

Anyone wanting to get a handle on the true nature of British justice needs to read this:

http://netk.net.au/Whitton/OCLS.pdf

You will far better understand the nature of it's practitioners, especially the likes of the magistrate and Lady Emma buttface.

Posted by: eagle eye | Feb 27 2020 6:14 utc | 54

@ simon and phresh... yeah and this is not really a kangeroo court and we are all just virtue signalling and on and on.. any more bullshit to add to the pile??

Posted by: james | Feb 27 2020 6:19 utc | 55

Well this all goes well with the police state where you are already guilty. The people just dont care. It has been happening for a while now. Which is far worse than stalinists or nazi's have ever done and people talk about freedom and democracy. The bar gets lowered each year where now they can even execute you just for living.

US has filed a case where hiding your money is now a crime, since it is already difficult for them to confiscate it, going so far as to make it difficult to track down the owner is illegal. And like giving people the ability to watch movies like HBO transmitted through the air and making it illegal for you to intercept it. Even though those radio waves are invading your private space illegally.. which a court in CA has ruled does violate your privacy as you did not request or give permission for you to get irradiated. This will be important for 5G because it can be used as a weapon against you. Assassinations would be common by the government using their power to control transmissions and power levels against dissidents. All under the cover of better and faster internet.

Tin foil hats anyone??? damn the flat earthers, they are proving themselves right after all this time.

Justice Department Assistant Attorney-General Brian Benczkowski described Helix as a “darknet-based cryptocurrency tumbler” and issued a statement that the “indictment underscores that seeking to obscure virtual currency transactions in this way is a crime.” Harmon has been charged with money laundering conspiracy, operating an unlicensed money transmitting business, and conducting money transmission without a D.C. license.

https://cryptobriefing.com/bitcoin-coin-mixers-legal-crosshairs/

Posted by: Igor Bundy | Feb 27 2020 6:42 utc | 56

I'm finding it increasingly difficult to read about the extradition court proceedings as the result has been blatantly predetermined and sitting on my arse 14,000 kilometers away makes reading about this travesty feel increasingly voyeuristic.

Face it we all know the only way to rescue Mr Assange is through direct intervention - direct action.

The only 'fix' would be if sufficient humans in and around england created sufficient fuss to wake the englander ptb up with the realisation that "This cannot stand".

Of course the chances of that happening anywhere outside some badly acted feelgood movie are negligible.


Everyome will whine & whinge but ultimately because this railroad isn't happening to Us none of Us will do anything about it, apart from wail and post pithy remarks.
USuk know this, just as they know in a few years (years that will seem an eternity to Mr Assange) people will say "Julian who?" "Oh, you mean the rapist!"

None of Us will do anything for the same reason none of us set up a world-changing web site without the means to pay the rent, let alone reach billions, because none of Us had the smarts or the balls.

And no that should not be read as permission to do nothing about this travesty. It is a plea for all of those close to Belmarsh or in possession of the means to get close to Belmarsh prison, to surround that testament to man's inhumanity and block off all the roads for sufficient time, to prevent Mr Assange from being railroaded into the heart of the empire.

What happened to the Greenham Common mindset, eh?

It would be great if sufficient englanders elected to put justice ahead of their own personal comfort, but I won't be holding my breath.

Posted by: A User | Feb 27 2020 6:44 utc | 57

Have any proof this directly impacts your life?
Or is it another made for tv script you want to complain about vs the same time you could use to make a meaningful impact with your life James?

You must think anonymous was a organic hacker movement you?

I know a leaker and have a YouTube channel want to join my patron account?

I even have a promo code...

Posted by: Phresh | Feb 27 2020 6:56 utc | 58

Keep this thread clean b. The odd clown crowing over a five-eyes kill is not a good thing.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 27 2020 7:09 utc | 59

more bullshit...

ditto peter au's comment..

Posted by: james | Feb 27 2020 7:12 utc | 60

A User 54
You have put it far better than I could. To me, of all the investigative journalists, ex ambassadors, military types and politicians that have turned to blogging because what they write is unacceptable to MSM, Assange by far has done the most damage to five-eyes empire. He has made public documents from all nations without discrimination, but five-eyes with US in the lead, has by far the most to lose.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 27 2020 7:17 utc | 61

A User,
Demonstrations at Belmarsh would be useless.I understand it is in the middle of nowhere. Demonstrations would have to be in public spaces for people to see and be informed, or instituions, embassies and consulates of the offending parties (US/UK).

Simply, the old fashioned handing out leaflets on prominent street corners might be far more of a recruiting success than unviewed internet sites. Directing people to the sites would then improve the numbers being informed.

Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Feb 27 2020 7:22 utc | 62

Explain to me how there is no potential that this is consumer infotainment? What are the reasons there is no possibility of Wikileaks being a honey pot. Furthermore, please explain how this issue has impacted your life besides manufactured outrage?
If you can’t there no reason to try and dog whistle me. These are simple questions.

Posted by: Phresh | Feb 27 2020 7:53 utc | 63

I'm British and the Assange affair makes me ashamed to be so. Assange's treatment is and has been appalling, a denegation of anything remotely democratic - he has been vanished into a deep hole and I personally believe he will 'die of natural causes' before he's trialed for his supposed 'crimes'. What really annoys me is the total lack of comment from the UK's so called 'free press'- it seems that the current extradition hearing is subject in the UK to some kind of black out....there is no coverage at all from the likes of the BBC or Sky...oh silly me, I forgot... a free press is a quaint, old fashioned notion, our media is actually a monolithic, corporate and government propaganda machine designed to sell the narrative and keep us all dumb and quiet...

https://richardhennerley.com/2018/10/16/8-techniques-journalists-use-to-lie-to-you/


Posted by: Richard | Feb 27 2020 8:00 utc | 64

phresh: Looks like a bot to me. (or really good dope).

Posted by: bemildred | Feb 27 2020 8:23 utc | 65

re blue dotterel who tried to assert "Demonstrations at Belmarsh would be useless.I understand it is in the middle of nowhere."

Greenham Common was also "in the middle of nowhere" which is why I referenced it. The time for 'demonstrating' ie publicizing this injustice is long past. Now is the time for direct action, action which could prevent Mr Assange from being deported/extradited. Nothing else can possibly work.

Posted by: A User | Feb 27 2020 8:25 utc | 66

Richard
The perfidious albion gene is strong in all of mother england's offspring. Three that swear allegiance to mum, plus the first born black sheep that has come back to rule the family.
Mum still has a bit of a say and does a bit of scheming of her own.
Assange is Australian, the same Australia that was happy to sacrifice the people on MH17, that assisted ISIS at Deir Ezzor and that assists its black sheep brother to destroy Assange.
I guess, even with what he was doing, Assange did not fully understand five-eyes and the reach of the long arm of the rules based order.
At one point I looked into the abyss, but when the abyss looked back, I backed off.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 27 2020 8:26 utc | 67

@ Peter Au1
Peter, you may not be completely fair to all Australians. It appears that someone in Australia may have leaked the secret MH17 documents belonging to the Australian Federal Police, which are highly embarrassing for the Dutch JIT lickers of US asses: https://mailchi.mp/12d598472df3/newsletter-3-bonanzaleaks?e=d64630a6f7. Mind you, this leak could also be a CIA operation.

These documents from the Dutch Military Intelligence, which was privy to the NATO signals intelligence from Ukraine, show that no Russian BUK was present in Ukraine when MH17 was shot down. No Russian BUK of the two on the Russian side of the border fired. The one BUK system that the Donbass rebels captured from Ukrainian forces had the tracking radar completely destroyed and was incapable of service. The clear conclusion is that one of the two Ukrainian military planes has shot down MH17, just as the Russian Airforce briefing at the time stipulated, the briefing that NATO PR made a laugh of.

How will the court case against the four Russians in Donbass and in Russia, pointed at by Bellingcat and their JIT, proceed now that the cat is out of the bag?

It appears that there may be a bit of resistance in Australia to the customary schemes of USUK and not only by Assange. Obviously, the Australian politicians are shameless scum just as their USUK brethren, letting hardly a peep in defense of their citizen Assange.

Posted by: Kiza | Feb 27 2020 11:24 utc | 68

Are people intentionally misunderstanding what A User means by "direct action"? Instead of pleading with known scoundrels and gangsters to voluntarily free their victim, you need to free him yourself. This necessitates violating the law, trespassing on publicly owned properties like prisons and courtrooms, and physically extracting the hostage. A few thousand citizens should be enough to pull off the rescue, with a hundred thousand making it a sure thing, and a general strike being best of all.

Or are the British people just a bunch of NPCs these days?

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 27 2020 11:35 utc | 69

@ Beibdnn | Feb 27 2020 0:30 utc | 30

Try this link. (By Kevin Reed, Global Research, February 25, 2020)

new-conflict-interest-evidence-against-uk-judge-charge-assange-extradition-process

Posted by: imo | Feb 27 2020 11:44 utc | 70

Iam Danish, but I do live in Sweden. There is a huge difference about those two countries. Swedes are mostly pliable, ignorant and utterly obedient. Thats from the time the Nazis were their masters, Sweden never repented their foul deeds from then, and in Mr. Assange’s case they will do a Pontius Pilatus again.
I have a nice house here, I don’t socialise with them ‘cept when I can’t avoid it. I don’t like them. Their system is good, but the people is stupid.
In all justice , there has been a few protests here, in favour of Mr Assange, but only a few.
Säkerhetspolisen, ( Swedish Secret Service) has never been purged of their right wing elements, still the same WWII preference, Mr. Assange probably did not know that, so he walks into a “honeypot”. Probably a setup by the CIA. And wham!!!
He should have known that the rules here about consent or no consent CAN leave you hanging and dangling. Shy Swedish women in Sweden. If I want to have fun I go to Copenhagen, in Denmark, we tend to be a bit more relaxed there.
You should have known that Mr Assange.
You will not get a fair trial in Dogiepoodleland (UK), so your best option is if you have some Real dirt you can offer to trade with, if not you are probably sold to the fascists across the pond. And what F**k where you doing there in the first place?

Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Feb 27 2020 12:20 utc | 71

Dominix Arbuthnot is pulling the strings...
Arbuthnot-out

Artist impression of her Sub, Baraitser...
judge-refuses-request-for-delay

Expanded image over the caption: "A court artist’s sketch of Julian Assange facing the district judge Vanessa Baraitser at Westminster magistrates court. Photograph: Elizabeth Cook/PA"

Elizabeth Cook

Posted by: imo | Feb 27 2020 12:51 utc | 72

Regarding the Magistrates claim that the extradition treaty differs from the UK Extradition Act, it should make no difference since the Primary legislation of the Act does not conflict with the treaty even if it is silent. The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties (VCLT) is an international agreement regulating treaties between states. The VCLT is considered a codification of customary international law and state practice concerning treaties.
The Hague regulations are not, however the customary international law of the Hague regulations will be interpreted as part of UK law provided that it is not in conflict with any law not already on the statute books. In Chung Chi Cheng V the King (1939) AC160 Lord Atkin stated that when faced with a customary rule “UK courts will treat it as incorporated into the domestic law, so far as it is not inconsistent with rules enacted by statutes or finally declared by their tribunals.” It has been said that when interpreting customary international law, something more than an opinion in a textbook would be required in order for a judgement to be made. That such a rule will not be applied in the face of conflicting primary legislation.
There is no CONFLICTING primary legislation.

Posted by: Harry law | Feb 27 2020 13:23 utc | 73

When all participants of a "system" are feeding from the same nose-bag, free from competition -- and are allowed (by your neighbors and friends -- hopefully not you) to
• Make the laws,
• Enforce the laws,
• Prosecute the laws,
• Hire the prosecutors,
• License the “defense” attorneys,
• Pay the “judges”,
• Build the jails,
• Contract jails out to private entities,
• Employ and pay the wardens,
• Employ and pay the guards,
• Employ and pay the parole officers,
One can't honestly call it a "justice" system. It's a system of abject tyranny.

Posted by: EWM | Feb 27 2020 13:37 utc | 74

This blatant violation of Human Rights and freedom of speech in a western democracy doesn't surprise me one bit.

When Arthur Schlesinger wrote the western democratic manifesto (Vital Center: Politics of Freedom, 1947), he was very clear that freedom only applied to the ideologies within the "vital center", i.e. within the variations of the liberal or liberalized ideologies. Those limits are manifested by the political spectrum, which goes from Left (the nearest to communism, rounded down to liberalism) to the Right (Nazifascism, rounded up to liberalism).

Outside the political spectrum (i.e. the "totalitarian" ideologies), there were no rules: communists and nazifascists should be systematically exterminated, by whatever means possible and necessary.

Now, you must be thinking: Julian Assange is obviously not a nazifascist, and not a communist - he's just what a real journalist should be. Why isn't Schlesinger's "vital center" principle being applied, according to the theory?

The answer is simple: capitalism is in its late stage, in a very fragile state. When an hegemonic system is declining, its "vital center" quickly narrows, leaving more people outside the political spectrum (i.e. outside "the acceptable"). It has, thus, not only to resort to more violence, but also to resort to more exclusion by violence.

The main failure of Schlesinger's "theory" is that he thought post-war capitalism found the definite solution to all economic problems. Economic prosperity would keep the vital center as wide and vibrant as possible, leaving communism and nazifascism as mere anomalies from genetic freaks. In this sense, he was the original Francis Fukuyama. In this he was 100% wrong, among other things I don't have the space to explain here.

Posted by: vk | Feb 27 2020 14:18 utc | 75

A User @63, Wm Gruff @66: Direct Action

Rather conveniently-timed "pandemic", isn't it?

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 27 2020 14:28 utc | 76

vk @72: ... capitalism is in its late stage, in a very fragile state.

Is this indicative of capitalism's "fragile state" or something much worse (2 days ago):

6-year old girl arrested, handcuffed (despite not being violent) begs for help and to stay in school as she cries throughout. Later fingerprinted, jailed until her grandmother picks her up.

(Warning: it's very difficult to watch this.)


Grandmother told reporters that the child was arrested because she had thrown a tantrum prompted by sleeping difficulties due to sleep apnea which is being treated medically.

Furthermore, this comes about 5 months after a different Florida policeman was fired for having arrested two 6-year olds.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 27 2020 14:45 utc | 77

It's "off point" in a way except to prove, as if more evidence was needed the essential "evil empir-i-ness" of the USG
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/02/27/islanders-who-suffered-s-war-atrocities-guam-get-paid/

Posted by: stephen laudig | Feb 27 2020 15:31 utc | 78

@74: It seems that the arrest occurred months ago but they just released the video.

So this doesn't seem to be a separate incident.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 27 2020 15:41 utc | 79

Unfortunately this case is perhaps the main reason Corbyn's Labour had to be stopped. Elements from within which forced the party to support a second Brexit referendum and the failure to resist the phony "anti-semitism" rap played a role. This case reveals how Britain has descended to full satellite status of the international five eyes fascist borg. In my view, Arbuthnot and Baraitser are mere handmaidens, Judge Jeffreys of the Bloody Assizes of James II in drag. I'm not sure what happened to Judge Jeffreys after the 1688 revolution eliminated that regime, but I think the judicial team the British regime has leading this affair are a disgrace to the rule of law and would themselves face legal repercussions if the rule of law obtained. Any of those involved in the pseudo-legal attack on Assange for revealing proof of war crimes, which is what this boils down to, should be viewed as enemies of the people.

Posted by: exiled off mainstree | Feb 27 2020 16:04 utc | 80

Apparently Jeffreys died in custody in 1689 after being recognized seeking to escape abroad after James II had been toppled by one of those he sentenced who had been released from custody.

Posted by: exiled off mainstree | Feb 27 2020 16:09 utc | 81

I think the same system that causes a group of people to crush a 6-year old girl also causes them to shrug as Assange is tortured and tried by a kangaroo court.

Multiple people were involved in the arrest and jailing of this 6-year old girl: teacher, school counselor, school principal, 2 police officers, booking officer, police sergeant/commander.

All were following orders / doing their duty - fearful of a system that oppresses them and drains their humanity.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 27 2020 16:15 utc | 82

On December 1st there was an appeal to the Archbishop of Canterbury made by 61 intellectuals from 16 countries to take up the cause of Julian Assange and even take the Assange case to the Queen. Did he ever respond?

Posted by: Tony Manolis | Feb 27 2020 17:07 utc | 83

The reason WikiLeaks hasn't released anything important in a while is likely that most of the senior leadership or anyone else involved with the organization has been kidnapped, tortured, and killed by agents of the Empire. Recall the second in command for WikiLeaks who mysteriously disappeared while hiking in either Denmark or Norway. Nobody ever heard a word about or from him again, so even the best laid "deadman's switch" plans have likely been scuttled, which is why the Empire has no fear of further damaging releases. Not that any mainstream media outlets would publish them anyway, but yeah...

Posted by: information_agent | Feb 27 2020 18:00 utc | 84

> Now is the time for direct action, action which could prevent
>Mr Assange from being deported/extradited. Nothing else can possibly work.
>Posted by: A User | Feb 27 2020 8:25 utc | 66

Indeed. First Nations people in Canada are demonstrating how small groups can apply huge economic pressure if they find the right pressure points. Walking around with signs doesn't frighten "western" leaders anymore. They finally figured out that public demonstrations "prove" they have democracy, blah, blah. Other actions that directly raise the social cost of the policy towards Assange are required.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Feb 27 2020 18:35 utc | 85

>All were following orders / doing their duty - fearful of a
>system that oppresses them and drains their humanity.
>!!

Yes, my thoughts exactly while watching the video. The staff all know they are guards in a day prison, and are OK with that.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Feb 27 2020 19:09 utc | 86

bevin @ 11. The irony of a ‘movement’ like Me Too condemning and de facto soon killing-off an unsavory and horrid character like Weinstein who made his mega-bucks in the fiction industry and seriously abused, over-used, his casting-couch privileges (and maybe more, who knows) while hoisting up sexy gals and fakelorum fights between all kinds of righteous groups in his cinematic offerings, is wondrous to behold.

I read that Weinstein confusedly stated to the court.. “I am innocent, how can this be happening in the US?” with sincere perplexity and desperate fear -- forgetting the plots of his own movies! Which of course tend to feature successful revanchard blame, revenge, justice for some suposedly noble or downtrodden persons…etc. etc. Not that I know which plot exactly fits.... :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Weinstein_Company_films


Posted by: Noirette | Feb 27 2020 19:16 utc | 87

Thank you b for a rich vein of commentary on this latter Dreyfus affair. As a fellow-countryman of Julian's I am ashamed and depressed by the Australian government's abject and craven submission to the Empire over this treatment of our citizen. I can barely follow it without being moved to tears of sadness and impotent rage.

I hope, one day, there will be a savage reckoning. Hang in there JA, you have a lot of support at home.

Posted by: Patroklos | Feb 27 2020 21:35 utc | 88

Bevin @ 11:

I saw what you did in your comment. No-one here at MoA has ever called for Jeffrey Epstein to be lynched, as you put it.

The consensus has been that Epstein and his assistants who include Ghislaine Maxwell, Lesley Groff, Sarah Kellen and Nadia Marcinkova - all women, incidentally - should be held to justice for luring young underage and naive teenage girls with promises of help and financial assistance for their families into a sex trafficking / prostitution scheme. In one case, typical of how the women recruited the girls, a girl was approached outside her high school by a female recruiter who asked her about her family, her upbringing and the family's finances. A European modelling agency also supplied young unsuspecting girls to Epstein.

Epstein operated this sex trafficking scheme as part of an entrapment / blackmailing scheme on behalf of intelligence agencies in the US and overseas.

Your constant attempts to reduce Epstein's actions to the level that most MSM reporting has reduced it to - just a rich businessman with a penchant for young girls entertaining other rich friends like himself - are despicable and become ever more so in the way you try to insert your opinion to suggest that anyone who challenges you is part of the same hysterical witch-hunt phenomenon as the #MeToo movement.

Posted by: Jen | Feb 27 2020 22:12 utc | 89

@ jen.. i have noticed this pattern in bevin as well.. it doesn't go un noticed.. thanks for articulating all that..

Posted by: james | Feb 27 2020 22:27 utc | 90

Jen, james

Yeah, bevin now add Weinstein as well.

How much do you charge bevin? Just curious.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 27 2020 22:53 utc | 91

We have all let Julian down. A country full of lazy, apathetic, propagandized sheep will allow this man to be destroyed here in the states without so much as a whimper.
The US and UK society will suffer without truth tellers like Julian.
Dark days ahead for Americans but will be the only thing to wake them up to their FASCIST government.

Posted by: Annie | Feb 28 2020 0:07 utc | 92


Deeply appreciated b that you have given voice to Assange..

This Kangaroo Court show, wherein Defendant Assange is not permitted to sit with his Attorneys, is an abrogation of his right to participate in his defense. Forget the law of convention and rules of rendering justice. It's.Just. basic. decency.

Imho, aside Judge Vanessa Baraitser's leaning bias, as likely she is under coercion of her imperial supervisors, the endpoint will rebound on the issue of "political offence - individuals should not be extradited for a political offence - a legal principle which is universal." Assange embarrassed the Americans by exposing their war crimes.

UK prosecutors on behalf of the U.S. submitted to the court that the political offence doctrine is irrelevant. However, the political offence principle included in the Extradition Treaty [to protect American citizens] as ratified by the US in 2007 was given legal effect. The US is the party demanding the extradition of Assange. On this issue, the extradition request to the UK fails.

There will be good grounding for an appeal to the Higher Courts. IF allowed.


FREE ASSANGE

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 28 2020 1:56 utc | 93

@ Likklemore | Feb 28 2020 1:56 utc | 94

"There will be good grounding for an appeal to the Higher Courts. IF allowed."

Pardon, I am not fluent in the UK legal system. Who can deny an appeal other than the higher courts in the UK? I had thought Assange's lawyers entire strategy was aimed at creating grounds for appeal to a less easily influenced court.

Thanks

b4real

Posted by: b4real | Feb 28 2020 4:28 utc | 94

RT on Assange

https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/481841-assange-us-extradition-hearing/

Posted by: bob | Feb 28 2020 10:23 utc | 95

Jen @89, james @90, jackrabbit @91, everyone

bevin is engaging in a form of influencer-washing.

An example of influencer-washing is described here:

Celebrities Under Fire: influencer-washing Saudi Arabia.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 28 2020 13:40 utc | 96

The kangaroo in charge was increasingly snippy, irritated, finally announced that her brain is full (quite possible, kangaroos have rather small brains) and the proceedings will resume in May. Can her brain be sufficiently empty in less than 3 months?

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 28 2020 13:58 utc | 97

Your Man in the Public Gallery – The Assange Hearing Day 3

Posted by: S | Feb 28 2020 14:42 utc | 98

Also day 4 at Craig's site.

Posted by: arby | Feb 28 2020 15:27 utc | 99

information_agent @84:

His name is -- was -- Arjen Kamphuis. I've been making your point repeatedly across several sites for quite some time now and getting no resonance whatsoever, so I'm happy to see your comment. I feel less crazy and alone now. :-)

Posted by: corvo | Feb 28 2020 16:14 utc | 100

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