Just to reinforce what Vintage Red @303 posted above is this from CIApedia: “… the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences estimated the number of annual mass incidents [protests] to exceed 90,000, and Chinese sociology professor Sun Liping estimated 180,000 incidents in 2010…”
There are so many protests because in China they work. When workers or villagers march to the local CCP office, the CCP members run out with their notebooks and take notes on what everybody is upset over and what ideas they have to fix things.
Do keep in mind that membership in the CCP is open to anybody who is willing to put in the effort, but most Chinese choose not to because doing the occasional protest is easier and they still get much of what they demand, at least so long as it is realistically achievable. Being a CCP party member is seen as being a lot of extra work for few extra perks, so as long as the people who choose that path in life are doing a reasonable job the rest of the Chinese people are willing to take a pass on it.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 7 2020 20:51 utc | 304

oh must be more green fascism
https://weather.com/news/climate/news/2020-02-07-antarctica-record-high-preliminary-esperanza-base

Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 7 2020 21:35 utc | 306

The Saker’s written an outstanding essay, “Our fundamental disagreement about WWII, Hitler, Jews and race”, which IMO is one of his best–very educational! Although tangential to the central topic, this comment is worthy of contemplation:
“B.F. on February 07, 2020 at 2:32 am EST/EDT
“The Saker
“You wrote another excellent article. However, I think you should have elaborated on the statement made by the EU, which accused both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union of starting World War two, which is totally and utterly absurd.
“It is not surprising that the EU made such a statement, bearing in mind that the EU Central Bank is in the hands of private bankers, the very same ones who in 1931 created the Bank of International Settlement in Basel, Switzerland, and one which financed Hitler. On top of that you had Wall Street, which invested in Germany after World War One, like Henry Ford, who provided the German Army with transport. The point is that private bankers on a number of occasions tried to destroy Russia; in 1812 they financed Napoleon, in 1853 they financed the Crimean War, in 1871 the enabled the unification of Germany, preparing it for future world wars with Russia, in 1917 they both financed and organized the Russian “revolution” and after that they both financed and prepared Hitler for war with Russia. Readers better remember that the largest armies created by Napoleon and Hitler were the ones used against Russia. Historians never explained where Napoleon and Hitler found the money to finance them. The banker controlled EU is, of course, trying to negate and conceal all of this by overturning facts and presenting outrageous accusations.
“Finally, just to remind readers that EU countries are also NATO members. Since Napoleon, the Kaiser, Lenin, Trotsky and Hitler all failed in the destructive attempts, the bankers are now backing NATO which, in conjunction with the EU, pulled that coup d’etat against Yanukovich in Kiev in 2014, hoping to place NATO along Russian borders. NATO too will fail. Interestingly enough, it is becoming unpopular in Europe, while the esteem of Russia is on the rise.”

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 7 2020 22:09 utc | 308

Stop the press! We finally have a sensible headline in the NYT!
The Age of Decadence – Cut the drama. The real story of the West in the 21st century is one of stalemate and stagnation.
First worlders should indeed cut the drama. The “experiment” has failed.

Posted by: vk | Feb 7 2020 22:49 utc | 310

vk @311–
The writer is incompetent as he has no clue about the actual historical basis of his comparison. Indeed, the number of fallacies he engages in is staggering. My little gray cells are aching!

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 7 2020 23:29 utc | 312

@ Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 7 2020 23:29 utc | 313
I agree with you. But the headline is correct.

Posted by: vk | Feb 7 2020 23:39 utc | 314

I agree with S in comment # 316 that the 2019-nCoV is a serious threat.
I just posted two comments on the
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/02/coronaupdate/comments/page/4/#comments
thread
AND
one of the reported “facts ” is that China now has 400 million of its population in lock down over 2019-nCoV
How will the Western (Gotta keep health care private – Trump) countries respond when 2019-nCoV comes calling?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 8 2020 7:09 utc | 316

Naturally I am entirely confident that the affair of Corona is absolutely a coincidence, don’t ya think?
” “A gun or a bomb leaves no doubt that a deliberate attack has occurred. But if … an epidemic slashes across a crowded city, there is no way of knowing whether anyone attacked, much less who”, adding hopefully that “A significant portion of the human population within selected target areas may be killed or incapacitated” with only very small amounts of a pathogen.” Pentagon’s Committee on Biological Warfare
Globalresearch dot ca
I see that the copper price collapsed prior in time to the CV affair,,,whaddayaknow. (Keiser 1499)

Posted by: Walter | Feb 8 2020 7:56 utc | 318

Affected Iranian and Iraqi people have started to sue those confessed responsible in the US for the assassinations of General Commander Qassem Soleimani, Commander Al Muhandis, and their companions.
Iranians sue the US after the murder of General Qasem Soleimani

The families of 48 Iranian martyrs defenders in Iraq and Syria sue the US after the terrorist attack and murder of Iranian Lieutenant General Qasem Soleimani.
“We could not file a lawsuit against the US Government. under international law, that is why we demand for the murder of the commander of the Quds Force of the Guardian Corps of the Islamic Revolution (CGRI) of Iran, Lieutenant General Qasem Soleimani to US officials and President Donald Trump, ”said the Director of an Iranian legal institute, Mohamadreza Musavifard, this Saturday at a press conference.
According to Musavifard, the lawsuit has referred to the role of the United States. in the creation of the terrorist group EIIL (Daesh, in Arabic) and the acceptance of responsibility for the murder of Soleimani by President Trump and his diplomacy through Twitter.
The lawyer has added that to this legal presentation documents are attached, which are references of Western media, in which they themselves have recognized their actions. There have also been tweets from representatives of the United States Congress that refer to US government support for terrorists.
In addition, he has alleged that when the US murdered Soleimani and the subcomandante of the Popular Mobilization Units of Iraq (Al-Hashad Al-Shabi, in Arabic), Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, they were not conducting military operations, an obvious reason why Washington has violated the international law when killing a foreign official in another country.

AS they were condemned the German Nazi and all the rest of authors of summary executions in the LatinAmerican dictatorships, and as it was condemned to pay compensations the German nation to the Jewsih people, due the current evidence available, I think they should start similar judicial processes all those people who have suffered the effects of IS/Daesh and Al Qaeda terrorist attacks and terrorist activity everywhere against all those involved in creating, funding, arming and training them:

Sarah Abdallah
@sahouraxo
US-made guns, ammo, shells and Grad missiles. All left behind by Al-Qaeda terrorists in Idlib.

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1225533189952856064
As soon as Donald Trump claims everybody to pay more for everything the US is involved along with any country, to see if the final account is favourable to him or to the rest of the countries in the world where IS or AQ have commited terrorist attacks…including sevweral European countries who, for now, are members of NATO…This should be a claim for any government who claims to be a representative of the people, as it is that currently in charge in Spain, where several deathful terrorist attacks by these US MADE terrorist organizations have taken place.
Of course, the national collaborators should be sued along…

Posted by: Sasha | Feb 8 2020 12:42 utc | 320

Meanwhile alternative voices speak with praise of Putin and Xi while bemaoning the western tilt toward corruption, censorship and oligarchy.
Some but how many of those same who in fact choose to move from US to Russia or China – acting on principle. And how well would they live if they did so.
While we attack Venezuela, Ecuador, Brazil and Guatemala, those people are moving to US in droves – for a “better” life.

Posted by: jared | Feb 8 2020 13:02 utc | 322

William Gruff @305–
That’s an excellent example of how Democratic Centralism functions and how everyone in the PRC gets to participate in their nation’s political process. It’s almost as if the CPC was a Western Green Party whose decision making is based on consensus after input from however many desire to participate.
–Karlof1
The CPC as Green party? That’s a good one. Just leave out the wine caves and the Volvos, not to mention add the immense environmental degradation and voila, the CPC is the Green Party. LMAO
Thanks also to Vintage Red and Gruff for their robotic, fact-free rhetorical defenses of the current Chinese economic caste system. You didn’t address my main point at all which is class struggle, the central feature of Marxism has been entirely suppressed by the Chinese ruling elites. And I note Gruff’s reliance on Wikipedia to make a point that the article he links to doesn’t quite make…
Why is this important? Because by all known measures Chinese wealth and income inequality is expanding rapidly and approaching the zenith (or nadir if you prefer) set by the US. Of course, China doesn’t allow for much economic data to be published but data opacity is hardly a defense, although the cheerleaders will attempt to hide behind the data scarcity anyway. Income tax data has been made available in recent years and this helps researchers to better determine wealth and income gaps.

His book Capital in the Twenty-First Century examined trends in inequality over the last two centuries in the United States and Western Europe. Piketty found that while inequality had fallen in the mid 20th century, since about 1975 it has been rising at an alarming rate as income from wealth (such as property and other assets) outpaced income earned from working. The 2013 book would become a surprise bestseller and perhaps the most influential economics book of the 21st century.
Now Piketty, along with his colleagues Li Yang and Gabriel Zucman, has turned his sights on China. For a forthcoming paper, the economists use tax data, surveys, and China’s national accounting statistics to estimate the growth of Chinese inequality from 1978 to 2015—the period since China liberalized its economy. The researchers find that while nearly all Chinese people are better off economically than they were three decades ago, the gains have been strongest at the top. They estimate that the share of income going to the top 1% has risen from 6% in 1978 to about 14% in 2015—a share that is less than in the US (20%) but higher than in France (10%).

Of course, VK and Vintage Red will likely explain this is as China on the road to the end of history, when a CPC-controlled experiment at some undetermined future point in time will lead to a big bang event whereby all wealth and income disparity will dissolve into a communist paradise.
The same “end of history” events were proclaimed for decades by the Soviet Union too as I recall as a way to rationalise its internal contradictions which resolved when the USSR dissolved into…global capitalism. And of course, the collapse of the USSR also led Western observers to proclaim the “end of history” as well.
However, I note the propensity of the human psychology to remain rooted in the seven deadly sins still abides everywhere. Good luck to China in its quest to rise above basic humanity.

“We should allow some… to earn more and enjoy more benefits sooner than others, in accordance with their hard work and greater contributions to society,” said Deng Xiaoping in a speech at the time China embarked on its opening up. “If the standard of living of some people is raised first, this will inevitably be an impressive example to their ‘neighbors,’ and people in other regions and units will want to learn from them. This will help the whole national economy to advance wave upon wave.”

Posted by: donkeytale | Feb 8 2020 13:11 utc | 324

@ Posted by: donkeytale | Feb 8 2020 13:11 utc | 325
Funny you argue there’s no class struggle in China. The trotskyists tell us the exact opposite: that the number os strikes in China has been beating record after record, and that, therefore, the CCP is a capitalist party and, hence, it will soon fall to a (true) communist revolution.
So, which is it? Is China a historical abortion where class struggle was successfully supressed; or us China an hyper-capitalist nation where class struggle is booming? You anti-China middle classers must decide. At least try to unify your propaganda narrative.

Posted by: vk | Feb 8 2020 13:34 utc | 326

@ Posted by: donkeytale | Feb 8 2020 13:39 utc | 328
For that, you must ask the trotskysts. Last time I checked, they claimed more than 500 strikes per month (and rising). They think they are closer than ever to toppling the “stalinists” (i.e. capitalists) of the CCP – even though all the information they have is second-hand and they are not un control of the Chinese labor movement at all.
Yes, with the “reform and opening up” inequality in Gini term has indeed skyrocketed in China. But the CCP realized that and interfered, and it has since grown to a halt and is even lowering again (albeit at a vegetative rate).
But that’s inequality in GINI terms. Real wages in China continue to grow steadily, at a rate of doubling every ten years. Chinese wages (per hour) has already surpassed “emerging economy” darling Brazil and will soon be double of it in sone years (Brazil is now in an economic depression, so it’s not going anywhere). The list of countries that will continue to be able to make fun of China’s “sweatshops” is getting smaller.

Posted by: vk | Feb 8 2020 14:00 utc | 328

The waiver allowing Iraq to purchase Iranian oil is set to expire by the end of this month. I imagine that said waiver is conditional on a continued NATO presence in the country.

Posted by: Timothy Hagios | Feb 8 2020 14:26 utc | 330

@donkeytale #325
China’s inequality is high and rising, but my personal view is that most people are ok with other people getting rich – so long as they feel they have the opportunity to prosper as well.
I would also note that China’s government has been and continues to take public and active measures to fight this – unlike the US.
This is not to say that China knows what it is doing in this area or has a handle on the problem.
It says they recognize the issue and are working on it.
That’s ultimately all you can expect from any government.
I would also note that – as I’ve said before – China’s government had the benefit of watching and learning from other’s mistakes, particularly the Soviet Union. It is abundantly clear that China was determined not to be undermined by its own bureaucracy or citizen’s desire for material goods – the lack of rule of law in China can partially be traced to precisely this.
The deployment of provincial and municipal governments as “startups”, with the ability to create money by selling bonds/issuing credit – is unprecedented, and the central government has reinforced the winners.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 8 2020 14:34 utc | 332

I don’t expect to ever see a thread titled: “Why did the CIA chief died” so I guess this goes belongs in the off-topic territorry.
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BACN as a concept
BACN has been a controversial program within the DoD. This is caused by a number of issues including the personality clashes between the service people who conceived the project back in late 2004 and the traditional acquisition bureaucracy.[citation needed] This was particularly true between requirements developers at the former Air Force Command and Control Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance Center at Langley AFB, Virginia and their acquisition partners at the Electronic Systems Center (ESC) at Hanscom AFB, Massachusetts, part of Air Force Materiel Command.
BACN divides military planners and acquisition bureaucrats on two main fronts. First, how will an “Airborne Network” evolve beyond the existing tactical data links on today’s platforms. Second, the BACN effort presupposes that the capability will initially be “outsourced” to commercial companies that will provide an “airborne network” as a service to the DOD for the foreseeable future.
From: Battlefield Airborne Communications Node
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_Airborne_Communications_Node
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(Bassicaly infighting between the CIA & US Air Force on who will put what in there and what to not implement because concepts will be rolling out to the comercial sector eventually. I suspect towards Trump campaign donnors to create the “Trump 5G” network eventually)
It seems the BACN technology is now in the hands of the Taliban:
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Accident
The aircraft crashed at 13:10 local time (08:40 UTC) in the Dih Yak District. Ghazni Province, Afghanistan. The crash site is 130 kilometres (70 nmi) south west of Kabul, and near the village of Sado Khelo.[2][3] The Voice of America stated that all five people on board were killed.[4] The DoD only confirmed two fatalities recovered at the crash site.[5][6] Two Afghan locals died on the ground by impact of the crash.[1]
It was originally reported to be an aircraft of Ariana Afghan Airlines,[7][8] but the airline later ruled out this possibility, saying all its flights had been accounted for.[2] A spokesman for the United States military confirmed the identity of the aircraft involved in the accident, which occurred in an area controlled by the Taliban.[3] A Taliban spokesman said to Al-Arabiyah, that Taliban militias shot down the aircraft killing everyone on board, including high-ranking officials. However, these reports remain unconfirmed.
From: ” 2020 United States Air Force E-11A crash ”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_Air_Force_E-11A_crash
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Why is this important?
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“The Mysterious Michael D’Andrea: Was the C.I.A.’s Iran Mission Center Chief Shot Down?”
Last Monday a United States Air Force Bombardier E11A communications and intelligence gathering jet was either shot down or crashed in a remote mountainous region of Afghanistan. Almost immediately a story sourcing Taliban officials ran on Iranian State television claiming that the dead had included Michael D’Andrea, the chief of the Central Intelligence Agency (C.I.A.)’s special Iran task force, which goes by the name Iran Mission Center.
U.S. forces were hampered by weather, Taliban gunfire and terrain from reaching the site of the crash for more than 24 hours, and the lack of any kind of definitive commentary from Washington gave the story legs.
Article by: Philip Giraldi
Philip M. Giraldi is a former CIA counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer who served nineteen years overseas in Turkey, Italy, Germany, and Spain. He was the CIA Chief of Base for the Barcelona Olympics in 1992 and was one of the first Americans to enter Afghanistan in December 2001.
https://ahtribune.com/us/3857-michael-dandrea.html
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The man was likely hand picked by Trump/Mossad by his hardline on Iran and his expertise:
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Mr. D’Andrea took over the agency’s Counterterrorism Center in early 2006 and spent the next nine years directing the hunt for militants around the world.
Operatives under his direction played a pivotal role in 2008 in the killing of Imad Mugniyah, the international operations chief for Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed Shiite militant group based in Lebanon. Working with the Israelis, the C.I.A. used a car bomb to kill Mr. Mugniyah as he walked home in Damascus, where Hezbollah enjoys strong ties with and support from the Syrian government.
At the same time, Mr. D’Andrea was ramping up the drone program inside Pakistan. Drones became the preferred counterterrorism tool of President Barack Obama, who personally approved strikes targeting militant leaders.
When Mr. D’Andrea took over as the counterterrorism chief, only a handful of the agency’s drones were operational in Pakistan, and there were only three strikes that year, according to the Long War Journal, which keeps a tally of drone activity. By 2010, when the drone campaign was at its height, the agency launched 117 strikes against Qaeda militants and other jihadists sheltering in the mountainous tribal areas that run along Pakistan’s northwestern border with Afghanistan.
From: “C.I.A. Names the ‘Dark Prince’ to Run Iran Operations, Signaling a Tougher Stance. By Matthew Rosenberg and Adam Goldman. June 2, 2017”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/world/middleeast/cia-iran-dark-prince-michael-dandrea.html
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Veterans Today.
Sources: ” Murderer of Soleimani killed with spy plane shot down over Afghanistan (warning/unpleasant photos/original report) Crew said to include CIA, NSA and high ranking military ”
By Gordon Duff. January 29, 2020
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/01/29/vt-had-it-first-pentagons-top-spy-plane-downed-by-taliban-crypto-gear-docs-captured-warning-unpleasant-photos/
Vehicle was run by: “430th Expeditionary Electronic Combat Squadron”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/430th_Expeditionary_Electronic_Combat_Squadron
( “Expeditionary” means they go find stuff for black projects sometimes, yes? Who you gonna call? )
“Taliban Say Mystery Crash in Afghanistan Was US Aircraft”
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/27/taliban-say-mystery-crash-afghanistan-was-us-aircraft.html
Details about the system:
“Bringing Home the BACN to Front-Line Forces Jan 24, 2020”
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/bringing-home-the-bacn-to-front-line-forces-05618/
“Can ‘Wi-Fi in the sky’ work outside of Afghanistan? ”
By: Adam Stone   March 4, 2019
https://www.c4isrnet.com/it-networks/2019/03/04/can-wi-fi-in-the-sky-work-outside-of-afghanistan/
You have to be flying low around the mountainous cliff tops, for many missions to support “expedition” teams in such an hostile EM environment. Lots of strange signal sources to cap your signals or the complete lack of propagation without explanation.
Deep down in these caves in Afghanistan.
What is US doing in Afghanistan among other things?
Lot’s of strange stories not only about their “expeditions, but even since the days of Alexandrian era.
Movie trailer: “The Objective”
https://youtu.be/C_tWv3eyHao
(Also available in full in Youtube for free. Do search and watch it)
Also here’s a link for some NASA stuff which is totally irrelevant:
“Life on Enceladus | NASA’s unexplained files”
https://youtu.be/xC5Brf2-TNY
(They got no eyes. What could they have? Everything else and more. They know you are there but you don’t. Who needs eyes in a dark world anyway)
To paraphrase Bertold Brecht :
“The aim of science is not to open the door to everlasting truth, but to set a limit on everlasting terror.”
Enjoy….

Posted by: Qparticle | Feb 8 2020 14:56 utc | 334

@donkeytale #334
Are you European?
The fact that Chinese have any type of pension and/or national health care at all, already puts them far above the average American.
Let’s not forget that China is still much poorer than the US on a per-capita basis; average annual income is still in the $5K-$6K a year range. Just what do you expect the Chinese government to do in this situation?

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 8 2020 16:07 utc | 336

Ok, count me among the people at least partly irritated by “The Saker”. The Saker translates to Hawk vs Dove anyway? And from his Florida home he pretends to be pro Russia, since he intends to become an Orthodox priest? …
Just asking.

Posted by: Vig | Feb 8 2020 16:39 utc | 338

@Posted by: Qparticle | Feb 8 2020 14:56 utc | 335
As happens with all the “Q” phenomena ( related to missinfo operations by the Trump administration…so as to get elected or whitewash their dark ops…), good intent on whitewashing and justifying US long intervention in Afghanistan by the missdirecting intent made through such fantastic film, “The Objective”, all the more with such background as being produced by the same people who produced the other crap film, just a guarantee…ahem… no doubt…
Everybody and their dogs knows at this point that the US is in Afghanistan to control the drugs international market ( which ends in final local branch at US patroniced narco-state of Colombia…) with which to finance the decaying and dying US Empire´s operations, while at the same time disrupting the OBOR project and more than natural and unavoidable connections between Iran and Afghanistan and of both with China.

Posted by: Sasha | Feb 9 2020 0:48 utc | 340

C1ue @ 337
Sorry did not mean to ignore you had to go away from the computer for awhile. No, I am an American and yes the US safety system is frayed and no I am not pro-empire nor anti-China. The rise of China was inevitable but let’s not kid ourselves and each other what it means and what it portends for the future.
My expectation for China is basically the same as for any globalist capitalist society. There will be rising tides to lift all boats during the developmental growth phase and then the squeeze by the upper classes on the lower after the cycle reaches maturity.
China is rapidly evolving in the direction of financialization too and the society is also aging fast. Real estate accounts for a lot of the wealth inequality and much of the rest is in high tech and finance. And yes there is great disparity between the party participants there families and colleagues versus those outside the party..
The fake meme that the US wants to destroy China is good to rally the meme troops at MoA but has little basis in reality and there is nothing beyond Trupian and Pompeoan lies to indicate this is the case. China is a charter member of the multinational globalist caste.
The fact is the wealthiest American corporations and shareholders need China to elongate the imperialist era of enrichment and China complies happily. I don’t expect anything different in the near term.
I am backing Sanders as a step forward and away from neoliberalism in the US. I don’t know whether he wins in 2020 and even if he does I don’t expect any change of consequence in the US before a generational shift perhaps inspired by Sanders transforms the political and economic fortunes of the bottom 90%.

Posted by: donkeytale | Feb 9 2020 1:13 utc | 342

donkeytale @ 343 says “The fake meme that the US wants to destroy China is good to rally the meme troops at MoA but has little basis in reality and there is nothing beyond Trupian and Pompeoan lies to indicate this is the case. China is a charter member of the multinational globalist caste.”
Absolutely. Someone w a handle like “Clikkedkid” above says that China is different than the neoliberals cuz the State controls their banks, not vice versa.
In my view, the fact that China is permitted to expand its money supply to develop the country and its industries is proof that Chinese growth is fostered by the international Deep State. Growth of the money supply in most countries is limited to the monetary value of its exports. The exceptions are US, EU, Britain & China. This rule is enforced by withdrawing their membership in WTO, sanctions, war, etc.

Posted by: Penelope | Feb 9 2020 2:23 utc | 344

Below is a link to a Xinhuanet posting with take away quote
News Analysis: Russia’s balancing power warrants Syrian-Turkish equation in Idlib
The take away quote
”
It is worth noting that most of an estimated 50,000 to 70,000 rebel fighters concentrated in Idlib belong to radical groups which also have foreign fighters, mainly from the Caucasus.
These rebel fighters have no other place to go to as Idlib and nearby rural Aleppo are the last rebel-held areas in Syria.
The new deployment of Turkish forces in Idlib aims to “prevent the progress of the Syrian army,” Haitham Hassoun, a retired brigadier, told Xinhua.
”

Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 9 2020 6:13 utc | 346

Syria’s Idlib looks the only bright spot on the horizon. US Israel Turk backed jihadis seem to run for safer ground when Suheil al-Hassan is in the vicinity. Iraq folded like a bagfull of viagra deficient cocks.
New stuff on the horizon though as Trump has now got his nukes.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 9 2020 8:44 utc | 348

Sasha | Feb 9 2020 0:48 utc | 341
The “anomalies” on Afghanistan are known since the Alexandrian era.
Here some more “anomalous” of same era stuff that made it to the famous Piri Reis map, which he claimed copied from ancient maps from Ptolemy. It is written right on the map itself in the legend. Despite that evidence even the wiki refferences some imaginary Colombus map as the source Reis worked on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map
Here is some more abomalous stuff from Ptolemaic era:
“Dendera Temple Hathor Egypt”
https://youtu.be/npnWAXUOLtI
Built from Ptolemus and continued by his daughter Cleopatra.
The specific room curved mural depicts human forms at the bottom, creatures depicted as giants of the days of Old towering over them holding a transparent jar containing luminus snakes and another even larger unidentified creature towering over everyone else at the right holding a Minoan symbol broken in half in each hand. This is the right wall mural.
Do you want to also an ancient ballistic warhed the Russians copied in perfection to create their EVAs for their space programe?
He he he!

Posted by: Qparticle | Feb 9 2020 11:09 utc | 350

@pretzelattack #350
The problem you have is that you don’t recognize climate panicmongering as “big money”, either.
I’ve noted several times now that the top 4 environmental NGOs have a larger collective budget than the entire fossil fuel industry annual PR spend.
There are literally tens and hundreds of thousands of people who make their living directly from climate hysteria. And while there are hundreds of thousands of people who make their living from reaping fossil fuels – their output is a physical product which produces value.
Thus the Axelrod/Plouffe style finger pointing sounds good, but actually is meaningless – particularly when the big money is clearly on the panicmongering side. For example, a significant part of the environmental NGO budgets are … donations from fossil fuel companies like Shell.
I actually believe in being environmentally aware – the difference is that I don’t buy the shill from those paying (and being paid) to push a specific agenda, nor am I interested or mindful of the liberal oligarchy’s herd mentality.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 9 2020 13:17 utc | 352

@ Posted by: c1ue | Feb 9 2020 13:47 utc | 354
The problem with climate change is not death related to climate, but with agriculture. Even 1C variations can wipe out agriculture in entire latitudes (e.g. if global temperatures rise 1C, the entire coffee production in Brazil will be wiped out; it would be needed for it to be transferred to Santa Catarina state, from São Paulo state). We will die of hunger long before we’re going to the beach in Siberia.
That’s why those environmentalists are preaching for electric cars. Electric cars pollute more than petrol cars, but emmit less CO2. You’re exchanging localized soil and water pollution from heavy metals (because of the production of lithium batteries for the cars) for world agriculture.

Posted by: vk | Feb 9 2020 14:03 utc | 354

the problem, c1ue, is you don’t recognize that being an engineer doesn’t make you an expert in science. cold may kill more people now, including cold caused by climate change, but the many changes we have seen the past decades show that now is not tomorrow. you change the rules as often as anthony watts, the ex tv weatherman, who is still blogging despite the dismal failure of the BEST study to support his shilling.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Feb 9 2020 16:42 utc | 356

@pretzelattack #357
Being an engineer who has created industry scale models means I understand what modeling can and cannot do.
Furthermore, as someone who has experienced, first hand, the difference between theory and reality – I am far more able to differentiate between bullshit and possible truth.
You, on the other hand, do nothing but repeat ridiculous agitprop which isn’t even original.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 10 2020 0:32 utc | 358

PretzelAttack @ 350:
You are right that the US is a country run by big money. This includes the global warming hypothesis. The Senate Report The Environmental Chain of Command establishes that a group of billionaires and their foundations determine the entire movement. It shows the astronomical amounts of money given in just one short period & the means by which the policy positions of the environmental groups are controlled from the top. The source for the amounts given is IRS records. Their control of the EPA and of grantmaking is thoroughly documented.
I’m sure it’s apparent to you that the media supports the gw hypothesis. Who do you think owns the media? In the 70’s there were more than 200 media companies. Today there are only SIX substantial media companies and two of those are owned by the same parent. The boards of directors of these companies hire the top executives & thus control — among other things– propaganda for the gw hypothesis.
The propaganda is effective in part because it offers you a moral plum: It says that if you believe this you’re a good person. Don’t buy it; it can never be good to fiddle w the truth, especially when you don’t know the ultimate purpose for which the lie is told.

Posted by: Penelope | Feb 10 2020 4:19 utc | 360