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February 22, 2020

Mike Bloomberg Is A Russian Asset

A careful reading of the news provides that Mike Bloomberg, who had two Russian grandfathers, is Putin's asset.

Consider:

Lawmakers Are Warned That Russia Is Meddling to Re-elect Trump - New York Times, February 20 2020

Rather than impersonating Americans as they did in 2016, Russian operatives are working to get Americans to repeat disinformation, the officials said. That strategy gets around social media companies’ rules that prohibit “inauthentic speech.”

It is Bloomberg, working as a Russian operative, who pays the trolls that repeat disinformation.

Twitter suspends 70 pro-Bloomberg 'spam' accounts - The Hill, February 21, 2020

The temporary employees recruited by Bloomberg’s camp are given the title “deputy field organizer” and make $2,500 a month to promote his White House bid among their followers. The employees can choose to use campaign-approved language in their posts.

Twitter said the practice violated its “Platform Manipulation and Spam Policy,” which was established in 2019 to respond to Russia’s expansive troll network that was tapped in 2016 to meddle in the U.S. elections.

"Got it."

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And this:

Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign - Washington Post, February 21 2020

In that closed hearing for the House Intelligence Committee, lawmakers were also told that Sanders had been informed about Russia’s interference. The prospect of two rival campaigns both receiving help from Moscow appears to reflect what intelligence officials have previously described as Russia’s broader interest in sowing division in the United States and uncertainty about the validity of American elections.

Here are Bloomberg's behind the scene machinations which are sowing division and uncertainty about the validity of American elections. This is exactly what Russia wants.

Bloomberg quietly plotting brokered convention strategy - Politico, February 20, 2020

Mike Bloomberg is privately lobbying Democratic Party officials and donors allied with his moderate opponents to flip their allegiance to him — and block Bernie Sanders — in the event of a brokered national convention.
...
It’s a presumptuous play for a candidate who hasn’t yet won a delegate or even appeared on a ballot. And it could also bring havoc to the convention, raising the prospect of party insiders delivering the nomination to a billionaire over a progressive populist.

Lock him up!

;-)

 

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James Carville, self-portrait album.

https://youtu.be/Pk4iYrbBZZM

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 22:43 utc | 101

Circe @ 101:

You give Carville far too much credit. In reality he's nothing more than Mary Matalin's punk boy.

Posted by: corvo | Feb 22 2020 22:46 utc | 102

Sabine @93:

Untrue. There are Republican primaries, and multiple candidates to boot. Here in Colorado, as an unaffiliated voter I received two ballots, one D and one R, but am allowed to submit only one of them. There were four candidates on the R ballot, including William Weld, former governor of Massachusetts.

Of course, we all know Trump will get at least 99% of the R vote -- and he doesn't even have to cheat to accomplish that much.

For the record, I used the D ballot and voted for Tulsi. The exercise wasn't worth the postage stamp, so I walked it down to one of the deposit boxes. Nice day for a walk anyway.

Posted by: corvo | Feb 22 2020 22:51 utc | 103

Whitney Webb tweet:

The fact that Michael Bloomberg's campaign wasn't declared dead on arrival after his pics with Ghislaine Maxwell and his name being in Epstein's little black book tells you a lot about the state of media and politics in the US right now.

Responses are great too. Pics of Bloomberg with Ghislane Maxwell, Trump, Bill Clinton, and Weinstein.

I learned that Eptein's black book included 5 numbers for Bloomberg.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 22 2020 22:51 utc | 104

Circe @ 100

it's not a lock that Trump will be re-elected. It's the great silent majority of moderates [RINOs, DINOs] and independents who fear another 4 years of Trump -The Autocratic President of the United States
a brutal assessment -

Donald Trump can be seen as some sort of a deadly "political virus", which was introduced accidently into the American body politic in 2016.

Introduction

Wednesday, February 5, 2020 will come to be remembered as a date of historic significance for the United States.Indeed, this is the date when a Senate majority of 52 Republican Senators (with the notable exception of Sen. Mitt Romney), voted against convicting President Donald Trump for abuse of power and obstruction of justice, in the impeachment trial of the latter. That is also the date when Donald Trump interpreted such exoneration as a blank check to move towards a fully autocratic presidency.

Thus, in open defiance of the American Constitution and of America’s checks-and-balances system, Trump’s Republican enablers have placed the American people before a fait accompli and the only question now is to see if this dangerous drift toward autocracy will be condoned or reversed in the next presidential election of November 3rd.[.]

imho, Sanders, accused of being a 'self-identified' socialist, should be emphasizing the U.S. is shoulder-deep in socialism for the 1% who have access to free Fed funds. Free as in ZERO interest (0%) while jim and joe mainstreet struggle to pay interest on debt.

Good Luck.

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 22 2020 22:53 utc | 105

Top-shelf MoA installment today. Kudos, b.

Posted by: David G | Feb 22 2020 22:53 utc | 106

Another side of James Carville.

james carville

The Best of Carville.

https://youtu.be/rvP3dlIbwBU

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 22:54 utc | 107

A careful researching of the records provides that Mike Bloomberg, who had two Jewish grandmothers, is Netanyahu's asset. Since documents should be considered truthful like the press, it follows that Mike Bloomberg Is An Israeli Asset. (sarc)

Posted by: psychedelicatessen | Feb 22 2020 22:54 utc | 108

@Piotr Berman #56
I don't know if you're disingenuous or simply short sighted.
B gets a significant amount of content by following people on Twitter.
MoA also tweets out as a way to get new readers as well as to interact with data sources and readers.
Google and other search engines is another way by which "platforms" as you term it drive traffic and readers to MoA.
Thus your attempt to separate "communication medium" vs. platforms is invalid.
Without the multiple platforms of social media - including Facebook and Twitter - as well as search engines, it would be impossible to access world-spanning data sources as we all do.
Need I also note that Google doesn't directly charge for its search services?
Network effects, brand incumbents, etc are all recognized features of modern "communications media" - there is no way to separate that from the platform.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 22 2020 22:57 utc | 109

c1ue... is it possible you are talking apples and piotr is talking oranges? this right / wrong dichotomy is tiring..

Posted by: james | Feb 22 2020 22:59 utc | 110

Russia meddled? of course they did. Is it of consequence? Hell no. How about Israel, How about KSA? How about other nations? It's not of consequence, all modern nations do it. What matters is what candidates stand for, nothing more.

If you get your political info from Facebook or Twitter, you're a moron.

Posted by: ben | Feb 22 2020 23:02 utc | 111

California primary ahead in less than 2 weeks -Democratic candidate Senator Bernie Sanders has an 8 point lead. the latest poll published on Friday by University of Massachusetts Lowell says.

Sanders has 24 percent support among primary voters. He is closely followed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren with 16 percent, former Vice President Joe Biden with 13 percent, and former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg and former New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg with 12 percent. No other candidate reached double-digits in the survey.

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 22 2020 23:07 utc | 112

Sorry, first james carville link didn't work. Not to worry, 2nd link is best hits.

MSNBC defending James Carville, DNC prophet of doom operator, just minutes ago.

But-but MSNBC is gobsmacked with egg all over their faces. They have no credibility left...it's over. They reduced themselves to the level of a propaganda machine, that's all. CNN, a close second.

Here's my prediction: Bernie's going to run the table in March, and DESTROY Trump.

Bet on it, bank on it.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 23:16 utc | 113

Its called satire. Watch Hillary play the hero

Posted by: steve | Feb 22 2020 23:16 utc | 114

Andrew Yang is now an official dark side minion on CNN.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 23:25 utc | 115

One can see a number of Bloomberg -- Putin connections. In coordinated actions, one bombs in Syria and the other in Las Vegas.

Concerning James Carville, he married certain Mary Matalin, which begs the question when he developed some mental deficit. A marriage of DNC operative with an RNC bigwig probably implies that both "political consultants" communicate solely with other denizens of DC bubble, think tankers, lobbyists, politicians without any original thoughs, and when they go around the country, they meet provincial varieties of the same species. Hard to make an optimistic prognosis.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 22 2020 23:38 utc | 116

The prospect of two rival campaigns both receiving help from Moscow appears to reflect what intelligence officials have previously described as Russia’s broader interest in sowing division in the United States and uncertainty about the validity of American elections.

(In Rachel Maddow’s voice.) Sounds crazy, but what if that’s the whole point? What if Russia is making all these nonsensical moves on purpose, knowing full well they’ll be detected by the U.S. intelligence and reported in the press, thus hurting the credibility of the U.S. intelligence, as no sane individual will believe these allegations?

Posted by: S | Feb 22 2020 23:42 utc | 117

108;zionists will stop Bernies campaign any they can.They rule us.

Posted by: dahoit | Feb 22 2020 23:44 utc | 118

Okay, so they, the establishment and their craven media have been throwing everything and their lunch at Sanders and he's unstoppable.

So the best way to stop THEM is to think ahead and beat them at their next move.

Will Bloomberg make no-one-can refuse offers to the others in his right of center wolf pack lane before March so he takes Bernie on alone?

Will hellcat Hillary get involved as someone's right hand?

What else you'all think they might pull to stop Sanders?

They don't have alot of time, so it's gotta be big, and they're so dirty, they don't even try to hide it anymore!

Think. What'll they pull next?

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 23:48 utc | 119

Thus your attempt to separate "communication medium" vs. platforms is invalid.
Without the multiple platforms of social media - including Facebook and Twitter - as well as search engines, it would be impossible to access world-spanning data sources as we all do.
Need I also note that Google doesn't directly charge for its search services?
Network effects, brand incumbents, etc are all recognized features of modern "communications media" - there is no way to separate that from the platform.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 22 2020 22:57 utc | 109

Perhaps it is my fault, I used business jargon like "cost of entry". Clearly, b did not need investment on the scale of Google or Twitter. What I meant to say is that after you have splurged on a computer and an internet connection, household necessity even in poor households (abjectly poor use internet cafes, e.g. African workers in Germany and Spain use internet cafe to get in touch with their families back in Somalia or Burkina Faso.), you can show your writings to the world for free. Then you can make a buzz on Twitter, and once you get enough traffic, Google News algorithms may start picking you up. You can influence people around the world.

It would hurt b to be banned from Twitter and blacklisted at Google News, but both companies actually make money from the traffic so they seem to be tolerant unless pressured by the governments. Twitter does censor, but it does not seem proactive. It is ironically fortunate that Trump loves to tweet, probably it decreases pressure for cracking down on "purveyors of fake news". Similarly, Google News has some ups and downs with news/comment sources, it allows the algorithms to select.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 22 2020 23:53 utc | 120

Bet the DNC is wishing they had stuck with the Shadow app.

Posted by: Timothy Hagios | Feb 23 2020 0:02 utc | 121

Circe @ 119

If it has to be big, and nothing is sacrosanct...

Remember what derailed then NJ Senator Bill Bradley's 1999 campaign? Now consider induced cardiac arrest as more than a theoretical possibility. Or, put on some tin-foil and go full conspiritard with the heart attack gun. Provoking discussion of Sanders' heart stents, and the long campaign ahead vs Trump would prepare the narrative for a non-fatal event. The New York Times, Toronto Star and Business Insider are already pushing this. I can see Sanders' medical records becoming at least as much of an issue as Obama's birth certificate.

Posted by: psychedelicatessen | Feb 23 2020 0:32 utc | 122

Oh my lions and tigers and bears! The Behind Curtain Barbarians? World Zionist Congress. Louis Brandeis annointed to the Supreme Court and The Fed's owners took over USA. Long in the tooth our slave owners. Whatabout doing absolutely nothing, maybe two weeks the whole system collapses?? Evil can turn around Live is a hundredth monkey idea. A Circle Jerk is USA politics.

Posted by: Biloximarxkelly | Feb 23 2020 0:39 utc | 123

Two important curious things I'm noticing.

1. The results are delayed when it's showing Bernie winning big. Why is this delay bad and untimely. BECAUSE SANDERS HAS A RALLY STARTING VERY SOON IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, and they will deny him declaring victory, they are trying AGAIN to steal his thunder and the bounce in the polls and financial benefits as the winner in Nevada! THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS DELAY. THIS IS SHAMEFUL.

2. I'm sure you all noticed how since Warren took on Bloomberg over the harrassment non-disclosures at the last debate the media,CNN. MSNBC, WAPO, POLITICO, NYT have been pumping up Warren ALL WEEK LONG! What's strange about this??? SHE HAS THE SAME FREAKING POLICY PLATFORM AS BERNIE! SO, WHY ARE THEY MOVING MOUNTAINS TO STOP BERNIE, WHY BERNIE AND NOT HER??? Why is Bernie such a threat to them and not her???

MY PERCEPTION: A) WARREN CANNOT DEFEAT TRUMP, AND THE PROOF IS SHE'S DOING VERY BADLY. THEREFORE, THIS IS PROOF THEY DON'T WANT THE TRUMP CASH COW OUT! OR B) WARREN IS REALLY AN ESTABLISMENT CANDIDATE ONLY PROPPED UP TO DIVIDE THE LEFT VOTE AND DENY SANDERS THE MAJORITY REQUIRED TO GET THE NOMINATION.

WHAT OTHER REASON COULD THERE BE TO SUPPORT WARREN AND NOT SANDERS, WHEN THEY HAVE A SIMILAR PLATFORM??!

IF I'M RIGHT, AND IT SURE LOOKS THAT WAY, WARREN MUST BE IN ON IT AND DESERVES TO LOSE.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 23 2020 0:42 utc | 124

circe. please. i'm begging. please disable the caps lock on your puter. it's really tiresome to be shouted at day after day. one tends to skip the content, assuming....

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Feb 23 2020 0:48 utc | 125

BERNIE IS GOING TO SPEAK SOON AT HIS LAST RALLY TONIGHT!!! ALL IS POINTING TO LANDSLIDE IN NEVADA. WHAT IS THE F🤬CKING DELAY IN POSTING THE RESULTS, YOU DEMOCRATIC PARTY MORONS?!

HE HAS A RIGHT TO DECLARE VICTORY TONIGHT! WHAT IS THIS PROGRAMMED F🤬CK UP YET AGAIN!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 23 2020 1:00 utc | 126

Okay, Sanders leading by 26%!!!! Woohooo!

Damn! He's good. People are WOKE. FINALLY!

Weasel Pete is giving his loser speech with 10 people in the audience. Serves him right after what he pulled in Iowa.

I'll try to post link to Bernie's rally.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 23 2020 1:09 utc | 127

re Miss Lacy | Feb 23 2020 0:48 utc | 125

It is a lot easier just to skip past anything in caps secure in the knowledge it is just the circe creep expounding a lot on stuff she knows nothing about.
I'm suprised that the 2020 resident dem party hack is being responded to this year. Just goes to show more commenters doesn't mean better comments. Every other election cycle when one faction or another of the crooked dem party machine forces someone upon MoA, the depth of their political ignorance is rapidly exposed and everyone moves on.
The current hack is even more ignorant of how politics works than those of previous elections, but unfortunately so are many of the newer commenters, proving once and for all the success of those amerikan institutions tasked with spreading exceptionalist tosh.

PS the shift toward nasty scatology directed at other posters does indicate maybe the creep is catching on - that whoever wins the primary is irrelevant, until some other force pushes its way into influence, the amerikan empire party will continue as always.
For the sake of peace & quiet the AEP would prefer dem dolts to tick the boxes/stand in the sheep pens they are told to, but if they don't no matter, the correct result will still be arrived at. That means more whinging & teeth gnashing, but its not as if the poorly nourished, overweight nonces would summon the energy to do anything about it.

Posted by: A User | Feb 23 2020 1:09 utc | 128

Watch Rally live in San Antonio on his twitter!

Just scroll to second comment for video.

https://mobile.twitter.com/berniesanders

Posted by: Circe | Feb 23 2020 1:13 utc | 129

chet380

I've found the best way to follow what is going on in Idlib is watch several twitter feeds. I've found some good the represent the Syrian govt., the Kurds and the Turks. It allows an up to the minute look at what is going on.

The best analysis, IMO, comes from Elijah Magnier. He is a long time war reporter that has spent most of his time in the middle east and has some great connections. He posts on twitter at @ejmagnier where he also posts to articles on his blog. I just listened to a very insightful segment he did on Sputniks Fault Lines Radio where he discussed what is really going on in Idlib and what is going on with Erdogan, Russia and Syria. You can listen to EJ talk about the Idlib situation on youtube here https://youtu.be/KDsQnez6zZk?t=2710.

If you are interested in the twitter accounts I follow, let me know and I'll include them.

Posted by: lgfocus | Feb 23 2020 1:15 utc | 130

Actually, the rally is now top of his twitter page and he won in Nevada by a landslide!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 23 2020 1:19 utc | 131

@michaelj72 81 "I always thought the thing about 'sowing division in the US' was one of the Elites most hilarious and laughable memes"

It's just a rehash of the "outside agitator" meme from the Cold War.

Posted by: Keith McClary | Feb 23 2020 1:22 utc | 132

piotr @56
"Facebook, Twitter etc. are huge "platforms" that do not produce the content. In old days, if you wanted other people to read what you wrote, you could start a newspaper, "

I still do not understand why more people who want to publicize their opinions, post photos, etc. don't just start a blog instead of selling their souls to Facebook.

In fact, with a blog, if you start to collect readers, you could even potentially make a little money (from advertising), whereas by using "social media" you are giving *all*---and I mean ALL---of your data away to people who monetize it by selling your eyeballs to advertisers. Don't you understand that????

Posted by: Really?? | Feb 23 2020 1:47 utc | 133

Some blogs forbid the use of caps in comments. I sure wish b would do the same. It is shouting. It childish. It is annoying to others. But in order to enforce such a rule b would have to start moderating comments, which I think he does not have time to do.

Circe's constant use of all caps is in fact taking advantage of the fact that this blog (AFAIK) is basically not moderated. Circe, please grow up. Your abuse of the CAPs key is becoming worse and worse. I hate to imagine what you will resort to come October and November.

Posted by: Really?? | Feb 23 2020 1:59 utc | 134

@93

Vladimir Putin is not the man who should be in your sights. I've never yet seen any western leader stick up for the little man like VVP.

Putin

Posted by: Some Random Passerby | Feb 23 2020 2:11 utc | 135

Okay, lighten up all you foggies! Warning:
Put on your Depends underwear before you watch this video of Bloomberg, and don't say I didn't warn you and you went and pee'd all over yourselves. 😘

https://youtu.be/yQBMg47Mmkg

Posted by: Circe | Feb 23 2020 2:41 utc | 136

I'd advise anyone bothered by all caps to seek a bit of therapy.

Seriously people, who cares? Rhetoric is simply rhetoric.

Old saying; "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but, words will never hurt me."


Posted by: ben | Feb 23 2020 2:42 utc | 137

@Piotr Berman #120
The cost of entry you are referencing is false as well. MoA's existence and success is because b has spent enormous amounts of time, effort and expertise over a long period of time to demonstrate both frequency and quality of content. 999 out of 1000 people, or fewer, are able to do this. B has been putting out content on MoA for nearly 16 years now - congrats for the effort!

Secondly, despite the b's effort - the platforms still have enormous power over outcomes regardless of the investment put in.

This is borne out by real world data: web sites, channels, social media accounts etc delisted - whether on Twitter, on Google Search results, on FB, Youtube etc all see precipitous declines in traffic even if outright banning from ad revenue isn't performed.

The real issue is simple: in the real world, there is freedom of speech.

On the platforms, there is none. Nor are the platforms liable for content - they are literally getting their pie and eating it too.
Normally, the moderation and/or curation of content means responsibility for it.
In the early days of IRC and dial-up chat rooms, the laws preventing the host from liability made sense - if for no other reason, that these were extremely rarely revenue generating enterprises.

The problem is that this dynamic has been co-opted by enormous enterprises that generate revenue both from advertising and user profiling/data gathering, all without an accompanying responsibility to existing laws for free speech, for fair business, etc etc.

The myth of the "free internet" is a particularly pernicious one. Yes, you can create a web site with nothing more than a computer and an internet connection. It doesn't mean anyone will ever visit it. A web site is no different than an email mailing list, an SMS group list or even a snail mail list except these latter 3 aren't controllable by huge enterprises.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 23 2020 2:55 utc | 138

@ 138; Absolutely true, and relevant.

Posted by: ben | Feb 23 2020 3:02 utc | 139

Headline in RealClearPolitics for your viewing pleasure:

Bernie Sanders just won the Nevada caucuses
Sanders is on a winning streak; he has now won two early states in a row.

By Ella Nilsenella.nilsen@vox.com Feb 22, 2020, 7:34pm EST

As of 7:30 pm Eastern, our partners at Decision Desk are projecting Sanders as the winner. So far, Decision Desk estimates Sanders has added nine more delegates to his count, putting him in first place in the delegate race.

-----

These are projections, but some preliminary results are encouraging. Something good is cooking:

Jon Ralston @RalstonReports
Damn: Now looks like Bernie has won caucuses at Bellagio, Mandalay, Park MFM, Rio, and Wynn, tied at Harrah’s and lost Paris. He is the Culinary workers’ candidate!

7,997
4:46 PM - Feb 22, 2020 · The Las Vegas Strip, Paradise

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 23 2020 3:25 utc | 140

@137

Thanks ben! It's nerve-racking when you know the entire system is out to get Bernie. These are fighting words. I get not everyone appreciates them, but just watching how the media tear into Bernie like a pack of wolves, infuriates me.

Chuck Todd and Chris Mathews should be fired for some of the things they've said. Todd compared Bernie supporters to Nazi brown shirts and today Mathews called Bernie's landslide in Nevada the fall of France to the Nazis, and Bernie's Jewish.
If he were Bloomberg, they'd be fired!

Then Carville comes on frothing at the mouth like a Rotweiller, gnashing his teeth at Sanders. It was so vile.

And while the returns declaring Bernie the Projected Winner in Nevada are coming in, loser weasel Buttigieg goes to a podium to give his speech in front of 10 people and it's full of sour grapes trashing of Sanders. So much for Party unity! And then they kept haranguing Sanders over and over before Iowa if he would support the nominee! Is Buttigieg gonna support Sanders when he has the overwhelming majority to become the nominee?

Oh and get this, Andrew Yang, has gone to the Dark Side now working for CNN. He actually stated that Buttigieg should be attacking Sanders! How about weasel pete wait a day before pouncing on Bernie, and graciously congratulate Sanders for once???

Really small and vile of the weasel mayor to do that, and even smaller of Yang to state it was great! Asshole Yang is not what people thought he was.

So all this shet makes my blood boil. What can I say? I'm a scrapper! I'm an attack dog for Bernie. He needs all the help he can get.

I think he's winning cause all his supporters are passionate about protecting their stake in his victory.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 23 2020 3:34 utc | 141

Piotr Berman "Something good is cooking"

It is the US. Plenty of herbs and spices to cover the aroma of spoiled meat.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 23 2020 3:52 utc | 142

Or maybe
https://off-guardian.org/2020/02/20/michael-bloomberg-the-democrats-billionaire-strawman/

Fits to a T.

Posted by: jared | Feb 23 2020 3:59 utc | 143

I wonder how many hospitals Bernie will bomb when he becomes President? How many left wing governments will he overthrow? How many more sanctions will he put on Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and Russia? I wonder how many new aircraft carriers will he employ to encircle China? How many countries will "feel the Bern"?

Posted by: SharonM | Feb 23 2020 4:02 utc | 144

@ 141 Circe; Hang tough, you're doing all you can do, it's never easy bucking the system, but, absolutely necessary. I've been a Bernie supporter for decades, and don't intend to stop now. The man's record shades all the other candidates, case closed.

Others can do and say what they want, because I will, regardless.

Posted by: ben | Feb 23 2020 4:04 utc | 145

Bernie Loses Another Primary

Every Primary in which Bernie fails to get a majority of delegates makes a brokered convention more likely.

Bernie can not win unless he takes on a Democratic Party which has stacked the deck against him. But he's not doing that.

<> <> <> <> <>

Circe's siren song ... FAIL

Circe isn't here to get voters. There are better websites for that.

Circe is here to propagandize intellectuals with "Democracy Works!" messaging.

The establishment doesn't want anyone to consider direct action or third-parties. They want to beat your mind into a compliant pulp with incessant propaganda.

Sheeple aren't born, they're made.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 23 2020 4:07 utc | 146

corvo @ 92

I see what you are saying. In some ways Sanders has bought the delusion of the National Security State to stay relevant in the press. Things such as supporting the wars in Kosovo, Syria, the war authorization that led to Iraq and Afghanistan after 911, support of the F35 and like positions. His rhetoric does not match his record.

Now he sees the failure of policies that were obvious failures from the beginning. I need to take a closer look at the socialist anti war war hawk.

Not on Our Side: On Bernie Sanders and Imperialism

Bernie Sanders on War & Peace

The duopoly of bullshit. When will it ever end.

Posted by: dltravers | Feb 23 2020 4:13 utc | 147

And, trolls are made, not born.

Posted by: ben | Feb 23 2020 4:17 utc | 148

James @ 59:

Whatever you cooked up in that comment, you should patent it and offer it to the entire US political and media establishment.

The pyrotechnics would keep the sky over the entire North Atlantic region ablaze for at least six months. People in northeast Canada and Greenland would be amazed watching the snow melt.

Glad to see your humour is still intact. My congratulations to you.

Posted by: Jen | Feb 23 2020 4:30 utc | 150

@147 dltravers

The titles for your links are supposed to be the other way around:) They're excellent articles.

@146 Jackrabbit

"...is here to propagandize intellectuals with "Democracy Works!" messaging.
The establishment doesn't want anyone to consider direct action or third-parties. They want to beat your mind into a compliant pulp with incessant propaganda."

Absolutely correct, in my view as well. It's just pro-imperialist spam at an anti-war, propaganda analysis site;)

Posted by: SharonM | Feb 23 2020 4:42 utc | 151

Keith @132
"It's just a rehash of the "outside agitator" meme from the Cold War."

I agree..
& remember too that 'outside agitator' meme business was used against civil rights activists who went south during the 1950s and 1960s

and before that, against unions and unionists who were striving to organize the working class in the 1930s etc

Basically the Elites are using all the psychological 'projection' tricks in the book to keep people divided, apathetic, complacent, distracted, passive, sedated, etc so they don't get organized around their real joint economic and social interests....which could/would blow the whole system apart

btw, caitlan johnstone always does a much better job than I ever could writing/taking on these kinds of issues/perspectives about the Elite narratives and Elite consensus/class interests that really rule the country

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 23 2020 5:12 utc | 152

michaelj72 @ 152; said;

"Basically the Elites are using all the psychological 'projection' tricks in the book to keep people divided, apathetic, complacent, distracted, passive, sedated, etc so they don't get organized around their real joint economic and social interests....which could/would blow the whole system apart."

Great post. You can see the above statement aptly applied by reading any thread here at MoA dealing with the upcoming election.

Non-participation is capitulation to those elites.

Posted by: ben | Feb 23 2020 5:25 utc | 153

Basically the Elites are using all the psychological 'projection' tricks in the book to keep people divided, apathetic, complacent, distracted, passive, sedated, etc so they don't get organized around their real joint economic and social interests....which could/would blow the whole system apart

They have perfected those tactics.

Trying to get people to look at primary sources is near impossible. I found an issue of Stars and Stripes from October 1963 saying Kennedy was pulling us out of Vietnam by 1965. I will show some of the brainwashed at work to try to make a dent in their thinking on just that one issue. Most of them are on the hard left and think that Oswald took the head shot among other media induced coma issues.

It is actually an enormous effort to break free of their control loop as the peer pressure and the media induced coma on each side is deeply built into their model of control. Most do not want to make the effort. Entertainment saturation coupled with controlled internet search results and controlled sources like rational wiki spiced up with controlled opposition media outlets on both sides of the divide.

Posted by: dltravers | Feb 23 2020 6:39 utc | 154

while i applauded sander supporters here like circe and his unhinged posts , i think all bernie supporters will be disapponted when bernie won presidency. check his VP nominee later and see how the real PTB wont stop him from the militarism and MIC

if bernie want to stop the empire part of USA , he will be nixon-ed or worse jfk-ed

more likely he will succumb to pressure and will be blocked out from empire’s foreign adventures

Posted by: milomilo | Feb 23 2020 6:43 utc | 155

@150 jen... seriously.... thanks!!!

Posted by: james | Feb 23 2020 8:10 utc | 156

@71 - I just don't respect Russians ra-ra for Trump, I mean their Trump infatuation,

I wonder what media you watch, listen to or read. Did you get your "infatuation" theory from Ms. Maddow? or the WAPO?
The only "infatuation" I came across was Putin's mild endorsement of Trump saying that he would welcome a leader in the USA that refrains from further meddling in the affairs of other nations and adheres to the Westphalian principle of the sovereignty of nations. That "infatuation" clearly came to a demise when Trump did not rescind the Obama imposed sanctions and the cancelling of the JCPOA.

Posted by: Peter | Feb 23 2020 11:26 utc | 157

In 2016, Russia used Internet propaganda to sow division in our country, and my understanding is that they are doing it again in 2020.

I wonder how this debunked nonsense - relying on some reports that some 100 000$ were spent on facebook and providing kitty pics and posts for and against Clinton as well as for and against Trump can find traction in the brain of an otherwise seemingly intelligent candidate.
And as to the discord - let us assume it is still the DNC email "theft by Russia hoax" and not the "influence by social media crap". Assange clearly stated in 2016 the info was not from Russian sources.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/julian-assange-russian-government-not-source-of-leaked-dnc-and-podesta-emails-wikileaks-editor-contradicts-cia-claims-in-new-interview-35300175.html

and the fact that Assange had clearly no motive or would derive a benefit in denying Russian involvement - and neither had Craig Murray who was cited in the article.

Posted by: Peter | Feb 23 2020 11:45 utc | 158

Posted by: Circe | Feb 23 2020 3:34 utc | 141

Excellent posts, on topic, informative and polite.

Ignore those who are interested in the font ... but who have nothing to add to the conversation.

From an interested foreigner.

Posted by: Ohoh | Feb 23 2020 12:00 utc | 159

As in the music business, the internet has allowed "content creators" to access an audience directly, and a lot of people have taken it up, they publish and panhandle, and seem to be doing OK with it. What you might call "small media". And "social media" to socialize in, like you say, that is also a sound usage.
by: Bemildred @ 20 .. <= definition comes first good work.. direct one on one access to a voter by a massive fully paid staff is a powerful weapon often used by the MOB.

Perhaps the intelligence community would just tell us who we should vote for so as not to fall into Putins trap. by: jared @ 25 < they already do.. you just don't know it.. propaganda is very efficient.. silent, invisible, undetectable access to information processing your brain does. The mob establishes for you, without your knowledge, the basis upon which you make your decisions so that you believe your decisions are your own control methods to use media to program the innocent minds of every single individual in the world. Propaganda is a weapon and the mob is using it. There is no place to hide.

pay people and create social media accounts to influence the voters[; it[s] is not the voters that decide who will be our next master. The[voters] just need to show up, with a smile on their face, every fourth year to prove they and their fictional democracy still exists in their heads. by: Myopia Longshot @ 28

The reality is Dems just got kneecapped by a billionaire Republican megadonor who stole all of their campaign consultants for the year and probably ended Joe Biden's campaign by bidding up the price of polls, so Biden couldn't afford to pay for cherry picked poll data that showed him as a front runner. by: ptb @ 33 <= yes, this what copyright law is for, to make the rich richer and the poor much poorer.. copyright is the firewall to date. often used to by the mob to protect their interest.

revelations are meant to destroy the Bernie Sanders campaign as he gains an insurmountable lead and momentum. gottlieb @ 37.. <=the mob local to the USA, not Russia, is involved in vote meddling.. let us not forget all oil and gas owned, petrodollar controlled, nation state governments, are owned by and run by the mob.. Just as soon as the voters discover they are victims not of wealthy people, but of mobsters.. they will admit their own government is used by the mob to manipulate the minds of the masses. Nation states are people container that allow one group to control the thinking of everyone.

The most consistent message is that the governments of the free world do not appreciate the "problem" enough and they should get more money. by: Piotr Berman @ 42 <= you got it wrong, the governments of the free world are them. they own it, and they mean to keep it, the voters have not got a chance of changing it.

We all know that American minds are extremely weak and fragile Blues @ 52 <= Americans minds are no different than the mind's of other people in the world @birth, American mental deficits result from mind control engineering done by the government and its private agents in service to the government. Accepting that premise is the beginning of wisdom.

Facebook..a giant spy machine used for social control. Trailer Trash @ 53 < no not social control mind control.

The true meaning is "asocial media" w/prevents real interaction, and (w\is) under complete control by
big brother (the mob). Norwegian @ 66 < == I did not include "you can become a non person at any moment" because its raises a constitutional issue: Can social media gangs control public behavior by punishment. Punishment is something allowed by the bill of rights as outlined in the constitution.. proving social media inflict punishment without due process may violate the constitution<= might allow to shut down social media for violation of constitution? Any ideas on that?

We need to End the DNC, RNC, Political Parties, and PACs. IronForge @72 <= and you think that can be done by peaceful means? you are opposing the mob who is in control of the government and all institutions important to that control..

108;zionists will stop Bernies campaign any they can.They rule us. by: dahoit @ 118 <= it is not clear..
who are the zionist.. ? what is clear is who are the mobsters, many studies about mobs or groups that act like mobs have found many such groups to be composed of powerful Jewish persons and or to be composed of significant % of persons wit Jewish genes expressed. While neither Zionism or mobsterism are limited to Jewish persons, Mobsterism erases race, genetics and religion from the meaning of the word and focuses clearly on the economic nature of their activities. Unfortunately for history, even though Zionism is generally about king of the mountain type of economics, some people equate Zionism with Jewish genes and or with religious practices so economic mobsterism better fits IMO.

If non approved candidates winnings are too successful, or pose too great a risk to mobster control, there is always the induced cardiac arrest produced by the heart attack gun <=rephrased from: psychedelicatessen @ 122 <= yes, I agree and add that the timing of the Cononavirus might be used to keep people from the polls.

by: lgfocus 130 <= no body i know subjects themselves to twitter.

It is actually an enormous effort to break free of their control loop as the peer pressure and the media induced coma on each side is deeply built into their model of control. Most do not want to make the effort. Entertainment saturation coupled with controlled internet search results and controlled sources like rational wiki spiced up with controlled opposition media outlets on both sides of the divide.by: dltravers @ 154 <= yes imagine the will power needed for a 650 lb person to lose enough weight to be entitled to weight loss surgery or to get a person to stop smoking.

Posted by: snake | Feb 23 2020 12:24 utc | 160

They said Kennedy was secretly a commie working for USSR...I myself saw such claims, and they said the same of every political figure according to propagandist's desires.

Interested persons may wish to read (pdf etc) "Interview with Jim Garrison, 1969/05/27 p. 1Interview with Jim Garrison, District Attorney for Parish of Orleans, Louisiana, May 27th, 1969"

Old James says the bald truth about the way things were, and that gives insight into now... The JFK lie being the previous biggest lie in living history...ya kaint grasp 911, or elections, or Policy, without examining the murder sprees of the political police in context.

Posted by: Walter | Feb 23 2020 12:34 utc | 161

ohoh @ 159:

I don’t know where you’re posting from, but here in the US of A it’s too early in the morning for snark.

Posted by: corvo | Feb 23 2020 12:54 utc | 162

The results in Nevada are trickling in. To avoid clogged phone lines, out of service gas stations and other modern dangers, messengers carry the precinct numbers to the state headquarters in a traditional way.. The mounts have to rest every 40 km (25 miles) and graze

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 23 2020 13:12 utc | 163

Not just the Washington Post - the New York Times also reported the ridiculous story that Russia is helping two rivals for the same US election. These headlines are from pieces that are about a day apart and where one of the co-authors is the same (Julian E. Barnes):

Lawmakers Are Warned That Russia Is Meddling to Re-elect Trump

Russia Is Said to Be Interfering to Aid Sanders in Democratic Primaries

The NYT tries to explain that this bizarre plot by Russia "underscores its efforts to sow chaos across the political spectrum."

Posted by: Brendan | Feb 23 2020 13:35 utc | 164

Where are good old harmonious days before Russians sow chaos and dissension?

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 23 2020 13:48 utc | 165

snake complains:
The most consistent message is that the governments of the free world do not appreciate the "problem" enough and they should get more money. by: Piotr Berman @ 42 <= you got it wrong, the governments of the free world are them. they own it, and they mean to keep it, the voters have not got a chance of changing it.

I did not report my personal message but the message from think tanks and other experts on the dire, dire problem of disinformation, leading untold multitudes to doubt, at times deny, the most obvious truths like the personal role of VV Putin in the unsuccessful murder of Skripals, in changing the results of votes for American presidency, Catalonian independence and Brexit, immaculate conception of Israel etc. Namely, they need more money.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 23 2020 14:03 utc | 166

Front page drama plus zero evidence began long ago with ‘anonymous sources said …”!
Complete lack of accountability on the part of the sources and on the part of the reporters.
Thus we receive a “reality teevee ” potus , and we are pleased to be hypnotised and titillated.
A true revolution would demand CN-quality reportage and reject msm pablum.

Posted by: Dfnslblty | Feb 23 2020 14:10 utc | 167

>that 'outside agitator' meme business was used against
>civil rights activists who went south during the 1950s and 1960s

And no doubt that Founding F*cker George Washington used the same excuse to explain why some of his slaves escaped.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Feb 23 2020 14:42 utc | 168

Keith @132, michaelj72 @152: rehash of the "outside agitator" meme

Once again, talking past the concerns about Bernie.

If Bernie is a Democratic Party sheepdog and working to strengthen a Zionist establishment, then how is that better than an independent Movement that causes the establishment to cry about "outside agitators"?

Zionism, neo-conservatism, and neoliberal thought welcomes, nay promotes, such fooling of the people. These are the prevailing ideologies of the US political establishment.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 23 2020 15:04 utc | 169

Still no answer to my question:

Why can't we have independent Movements AND support Bernie?

The best way around the two-party lock on politics is to support strong independent, long-lasting Movements.

We are allowed to have Movements for women, minorities, the environment, etc. but not for economic justice and democracy. The media and political parties discourage it. They work for the power elite, not for the people.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 23 2020 15:32 utc | 170

Russian collusion is a made up distraction from Pizzagate.

Posted by: Seth Friedman | Feb 23 2020 15:53 utc | 171

As I said back on #87, the push back again Bernie the frontrunner using Russia as a cudgel has already started with this NYtimes article (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/22/us/politics/bernie-sanders.html), we can expect more articles over the next few days and a statement from the DNC regarding Russian influence on the nomination in a week or so. Let's see how Bernie responds

Posted by: Kadath | Feb 23 2020 17:25 utc | 172

JR (et al.)@170

https://blackallianceforpeace.com/

Here is one such movement worth supporting.
And I agree; support the candidate of one's preference as well. Just don't fall for the "lesser of two evils/don't throw your vote away on a third party" routine.
If one is going to vote, vote your own conscience and beliefs; not someone else's

Posted by: robjira | Feb 23 2020 18:26 utc | 173

Urgent! PLEASE GO TO SMERCONISH'S SURVEY IN THE LINK BELOW RIGHT AWAY BEFORE THIS HOUR ENDS AND SMASH THE "YES" BUTTON!!!

https://www.smerconish.com/survey-question

What nonsense. Bernie's lead will never be "unstoppable," because when things aren't going according to the progressive establishment's plans, they invariably change the rules, or just cheat outright

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/01/31/dnc-changes-debate-rules-opening-the-door-for-bloomberg/

Posted by: Henry | Feb 23 2020 23:38 utc | 174

Posted by: b | Feb 22 2020 13:16 utc | 17
(Gabbard gets it)

If you think Gabbard is the Right Stuff maybe you could offer MoA as a platform for articles she can't get published anywhere else?

Alternatively, assuming she is regularly published elsewhere, one of her fans @ MoA could post links to her articles, as and when they appear.

These are mere suggestions. No need to explain if it doesn't suit :-)

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Feb 24 2020 18:29 utc | 175

Quote from Texas Tribune (about Texas)

... when pitted against some of the top Democrats in hypothetical head-to-head contests, the president topped them all, if somewhat narrowly. Trump would beat Sanders by 2 percentage points, 47%-45%, within the poll’s margin of error. He’d beat Biden 47-43, Warren 47-44, Bloomberg 46-41, Buttigieg 47-42, and Klobuchar 46-41. Trump had 45% support against Yang’s 43%. The president, whose reelect number was under 50% in the survey, didn't get a majority of the vote in any of the matchups, even while getting more support than each Democrat.
------------------
States differ, but with more states like Texas now, brokering the convention against front runner Sanders will be tricky in the extreme. In can be worse than a conventional political suicide, there could be a substantial revolt against party leadership, lots of primary challenges etc. The paychecks of the leadership, both from the day job and from "influence" would drop. Head scratching sounds resemble chorus of cicadas already...

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 24 2020 19:42 utc | 176

Will it be the two billionaires?

Bloomberg may not be a Russian asset but he does have a lot of odious baggage that is beginning to be revealed - just the tip of the handle.
One woman speaks up on the Bloomberg NDAs-

Bloomberg "Tried To Ruin Me For Speaking Out On China"
LINK

Lichtman cautions those who think Bernie is unelectable and reminds the same was said of Ronald Reagan in 1980: Why Bernie Sanders is electable

The Intercept has more. This is a surprise, coming from The Intercept. Where is Circe? He is all smiles,

Finally, Can We All Agree? Everything We Were Told About Bernie Sanders Was Wrong

[.] in the wake of primary contests in Iowa, New Hampshire, and now Nevada, that everything we were told about Sen. Bernie Sanders was wrong? That the press, the pundits, the politicians were all wrong about him? And not just wrong, but completely, utterly, demonstrably, embarrassingly, catastrophically wrong?

Let’s consider the nonsense that has passed for “reporting,” “commentary,” and “analysis” on Sanders over the past year or so.

He isn’t electable. The 78-year-old independent senator from Vermont, goes the argument, is too old and too kooky to win — and also, Americans won’t vote for a socialist. Yet in the wake of his blowout victory in the Nevada caucuses on Saturday, Sanders is now the first candidate in the nation’s history, of either party, to win the popular vote in the first three races. You might think the concept of electability should be connected somehow to, y’know, actually winning elections (hello Joe Biden!).

But those are primaries. How about the general election? Well, at least according to the latest national CBS/YouGov head-to-head polling, Sanders beats Donald Trump by a (slightly) bigger margin than any of his Democratic rivals.

Forget national polls. What about the battleground states in the Rust Belt? According to the latest UW–Madison Elections Research Center survey, Sanders has a bigger lead over Trump in Michigan and Pennsylvania than all of his Democratic rivals, and the same 2-point lead over Trump in Wisconsin as Biden and Elizabeth Warren. (By the way, does anyone with a brain really believe that Bloomberg, an elite billionaire from New York, has a better chance of winning the Rust Belt than Sanders, a working-class socialist from Vermont?)[.]


Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 24 2020 20:36 utc | 177

---
The Duran - article by Alex Christoforou:
You Bernie suckers are going to get fooled again
https://theduran.com/you-bernie-suckers-are-going-to-get-fooled-again/

The article begins us such: "If you are dump enough to sooner over a socialist"...
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Says the Putin bot that when the EU put sanctions on Cyprus for being an offshore company tax heaven for cryptic international funds left Cyprus. It was that or a similar party like Golden Dawn in Cyprus failed to make it through at parliamentary elections me thinks.
So how's the weather in City of London Alex? Interesting choice of relocation methinks...

Posted by: Qparticle | Feb 25 2020 0:48 utc | 178

Kadath 172

Do you know what Trump is doing to suppress Jewish public opinion?
He brought out the Whit Supremacist movement that is actually controlled by the Mossad. Trying to scare Jewish and black vote away from Sanders.
According to the Mossad a good Jew should always fall in line with being a voluntary sayanim for them. Mossed says "Trump 2020" all the way.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Sayanim

"All Jews outside Israel that hold foreign citizenship are eligible for recruitment for clandestine operations for the Mossad"

Ku Klux klan-destine...

Posted by: Qparticle | Feb 25 2020 1:21 utc | 179

SharonM #144

I wonder how many hospitals Bernie will bomb when he becomes President? How many left wing governments will he overthrow? How many more sanctions will he put on Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and Russia? I wonder how many new aircraft carriers will he employ to encircle China? How many countries will "feel the Bern"?

Less than the three presidents before him if any at all.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 25 2020 2:06 utc | 180

lgfocus #130

If you are interested in the twitter accounts I follow, let me know and I'll include them.

Thanks lgfocus. Please do list your accounts to follow. I have canthama and ejmagnier.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 25 2020 2:29 utc | 181

Likklemore #177

There are no photos of Bernie hanging around Ghislane Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. There are some of Bloomberg in that company.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 25 2020 4:30 utc | 182

> Russian grandfathers
Ashkenazi Jews are not Russian.

Posted by: Florin | Feb 25 2020 7:18 utc | 183

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