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February 22, 2020

Mike Bloomberg Is A Russian Asset

A careful reading of the news provides that Mike Bloomberg, who had two Russian grandfathers, is Putin's asset.


Lawmakers Are Warned That Russia Is Meddling to Re-elect Trump - New York Times, February 20 2020

Rather than impersonating Americans as they did in 2016, Russian operatives are working to get Americans to repeat disinformation, the officials said. That strategy gets around social media companies’ rules that prohibit “inauthentic speech.”

It is Bloomberg, working as a Russian operative, who pays the trolls that repeat disinformation.

Twitter suspends 70 pro-Bloomberg 'spam' accounts - The Hill, February 21, 2020

The temporary employees recruited by Bloomberg’s camp are given the title “deputy field organizer” and make $2,500 a month to promote his White House bid among their followers. The employees can choose to use campaign-approved language in their posts.

Twitter said the practice violated its “Platform Manipulation and Spam Policy,” which was established in 2019 to respond to Russia’s expansive troll network that was tapped in 2016 to meddle in the U.S. elections.

"Got it."


And this:

Bernie Sanders briefed by U.S. officials that Russia is trying to help his presidential campaign - Washington Post, February 21 2020

In that closed hearing for the House Intelligence Committee, lawmakers were also told that Sanders had been informed about Russia’s interference. The prospect of two rival campaigns both receiving help from Moscow appears to reflect what intelligence officials have previously described as Russia’s broader interest in sowing division in the United States and uncertainty about the validity of American elections.

Here are Bloomberg's behind the scene machinations which are sowing division and uncertainty about the validity of American elections. This is exactly what Russia wants.

Bloomberg quietly plotting brokered convention strategy - Politico, February 20, 2020

Mike Bloomberg is privately lobbying Democratic Party officials and donors allied with his moderate opponents to flip their allegiance to him — and block Bernie Sanders — in the event of a brokered national convention.
It’s a presumptuous play for a candidate who hasn’t yet won a delegate or even appeared on a ballot. And it could also bring havoc to the convention, raising the prospect of party insiders delivering the nomination to a billionaire over a progressive populist.

Lock him up!



Posted by b on February 22, 2020 at 9:26 UTC | Permalink

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He is only following orders from Hillary, she is the real Putin Puppet, you read it here first! ;-)

Posted by: TJ | Feb 22 2020 9:48 utc | 1

You gotta make things more serious b. This is all about geopolitics. But I guess writing something about US democracy - the best money can buy, always ends as a comedy.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Feb 22 2020 10:02 utc | 2

Hillary says they can all eat cake. Yellow cake and preferably that Russian brand:- uranium one.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Feb 22 2020 10:10 utc | 3

Mike Bloomberg Is Putin's Agent

This should have been obvious for some time.

The PUTIN's aim is to sow distrust among the US population. The USA, a peaceful civilized society with apparently no internal conflicts maintains a similar peaceful empire for the benefit of all humanity.
The impersonate evil of the PUTIN has of course every intention to destroy the present state of tranquility and therefore aims to destruct the undisputed peaceful leader of this empire by sowing internal conflict.
This is why from Sanders to Warren to Gabbard to Bloomberg to Trump everyone is on the PUTIN payroll or subconsciously exposed to some mind controlling rays he sends via satellite to the USA.
The PUTIN is the invention by the Russian Federation after their successful evil attempt to evade the good intentions of the EMPIRE to embrace Russia in its sphere of peaceful tranquility.


Posted by: Peter | Feb 22 2020 10:27 utc | 4

I suppose when Jeff Bozo's Blog discovers that Putin is playing three-dimensional chess with himself using Bernie Sanders as the White Side and Mike Bloomberg as the Black Side, it will finally declare that to save the US from Russian meddling, the very notion and institution of regular elections, and the massive organisation, funding systems and networks, and marketing campaigns and promotions associated with the 4-year election cycle must finally be declared harmful to American interests and done away with. WaPo will finally advocate for a one-man police state. Democracy truly dies in the darkness of delirium and derangement. Thank you, WaPo.

Posted by: Jen | Feb 22 2020 10:36 utc | 5

"A careful reading of the news provides that Mike Bloomberg is Putin's agent."

Yah, good idea (sarcasm) to continue with this bullshit trope. Anything the MSM can do we can do better? I don't like Bloomberg either, but is fanning the Russiagate flames the best way to defeat him?

Posted by: John Pretty | Feb 22 2020 10:56 utc | 6

This is hilarious, 'nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people' H L Mencken. But seriously, Putin does now have the power to decide US elections, he simply makes his preferred choice [now the obvious loser]one day before the election. You could not make this up.

Posted by: Harry law | Feb 22 2020 10:57 utc | 7

LOL thanks a lot, b and Peter #4, made my day.

Posted by: Paleene | Feb 22 2020 11:30 utc | 8

Was anyone aware that in 1991 in the Ukraine almost 100% of the population had indoor running water, but as of 2014 that was down to 87%? I'm talking of the western portion of the Ukraine here and not the part being attacked by neo-Nazis where it is unsurprising that infrastructure is being destroyed.

I was curious what happened to the Ukraine's infrastructure since the Soviet Union was dissolved so I asked some Ukrops what was up. Apparently Putin himself has been sneaking into the Ukraine at night and stealing the plumbing right out of people's houses. I kid thee not! Putin did it! Ukrops wouldn't lie about that, would they?

If you think what Putin is doing to America is bad, then just be thankful you are not in Ukropistan! Over there Putin causes people to stub their toes on the furniture when they get out of bed to take a leak at night. He tricks people into not bringing their umbrellas on days that it rains. He even causes babies to foul their diapers right after they were changed. Putin's evil knows no bounds!

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 22 2020 11:56 utc | 9

Russia is 1984's Emmanuel Goldstein in the form of a country.

Posted by: Timothy Hagios | Feb 22 2020 12:25 utc | 10

Yep, that's what we have, Government by Gossip and Innuendo. And continuous industrial-level mass-market blame shifting for the continuing decline and decay in our affairs both here and globally, these last 40 years or so, ever since the Reagan Revolution. And the first thing they destroyed was the free press and "civil society" here that they like to babble about all the time when talking about other places. They hate us. We threaten their jobs and social status, we can take them away.

I can still remember when they started in with it, when they started calling us "consumers" and not "citizens", when they started to lie all the time and as a matter of policy. Citizens have rights. And I've been waiting ever since for it to come to this crisis of bankruptcy, bubbles, and bullshit.

"We assess that it's highly likely that Putin unfairly took advantage of all our stupid moves."

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 22 2020 12:34 utc | 11

I think a ground-work is being laid to brazenly rig the coming election. America is a joke. A gigantic idiot of a nation.

Posted by: Steve | Feb 22 2020 12:48 utc | 12

Breaking News: Russia is revising its 2016 campaign of posting pictures of cuddly puppies on social media in order to manipulate American voters. In a disturbing development, Russia is also using pictures of cute kittens to interfere in the 2020 election.

Such images were displayed beside Facebook messages, supposedly from Americans but actually from a St Petersburg troll farm:
"Aren't puppies the cutest little creatures in the whole wide world?"
"No they're not. Kittens are a lot cuter. Dogs are pests."

The aim is to sow division between puppy lovers and kitten lovers across the USA, US intelligence officials said.

Posted by: Brendan | Feb 22 2020 12:53 utc | 13

"The prospect of two rival campaigns both receiving help from Moscow appears to reflect what intelligence officials have previously described as Russia’s broader interest in sowing division in the United States and uncertainty about the validity of American elections" WaPo, 2/21/20.

This level if clinical delusion is reminiscent of the Führer's last days in the bunker.

How about free passage to (swampy) Latin America?

Posted by: Christoph | Feb 22 2020 12:54 utc | 14

I know, I know, it's a waste of time trying to ridicule the media when they're already doing that to themselves. Satire is definitely dead when the Washington Post reports about "two rival campaigns both receiving help from Moscow". WaPo's attempts to explain that the purpose of this bizarre behavior is "sowing division" makes it look even more incredible.

Posted by: Brendan | Feb 22 2020 13:10 utc | 15

The concept of democracy was invented by the Kremlin, to sow discord.

Posted by: bjd | Feb 22 2020 13:13 utc | 16

Here is a candidate who gets it:

Tulsi Gabbard: How Democrats’ impeachment campaign helped Trump

For years I have stressed the need for our leaders to make decisions based on thoughtfulness and foresight—not just emotion, or what may “feel good” in a given moment. This is especially important in the area of foreign policy, as politicians’ desire to “do something” too often overrides careful consideration of the unintended consequences of the actions they take. Time and time again, their poor judgment has led to worse outcomes in the countries where we recklessly intervene, and for our own country’s national security.

An egregious lack of foresight also led to this counterproductive impeachment of Trump.

Those who wish to lead our country should have had the foresight to know that this result was inevitable. They need to understand that their decisions should not be dictated by what makes them temporarily feel good or look good, but rather by what will be good for the American people. Emotional gratification or political advantage should never determine one’s votes or actions.

Posted by: b | Feb 22 2020 13:16 utc | 17

Last night the twitter-trending thing was "#BernieKnew", which really appeared artificial and staged. What's really hard to know is whether we're actually watching "bots" and paid-for disinformation "shills", or if we're watching propaganda sponges and know-nothing fanatics. In any event, the war parties and their acolytes make for banal viewing.

Posted by: SharonM | Feb 22 2020 13:19 utc | 18

Yah, good idea (sarcasm) to continue with this bullshit trope. Anything the MSM can do we can do better? I don't like Bloomberg either, but is fanning the Russiagate flames the best way to defeat him?

Posted by: John Pretty | Feb 22 2020 10:56 utc | 6

I am confused. You recognize the sarcasm, I myself like to write sarcastically (childhood in Communist block, sarcasm is endemic in those parts, hard to cure) and there are problems with that because the genuine proponents of certain memes write so illogically that is hard to properly mark sarcasm is, well, sarcasm. But the premise of this sarcasm is that Bloombergian trolls are roaming, his agents are bribing etc. The guy has funds and organization exceeding most of nation states, and within USA, he now has a hastily cobbled mercenary army of many thousands of "organizers". With all those people on the payroll, the swamping comment sections with "pro-Mike" comments in NYT is tad suspicious, and much more can go on social media.

Which brings me to confusing terminology. It used to be that Social Democrats could be differentiated from other Democrats by being more social, attending parties, bars, dating etc. Some were also social butterflies. But what is so social with social media and we "chat" electronically?

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 22 2020 13:23 utc | 19

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 22 2020 13:23 utc | 19

The "social" is "social media" is in contrast to "professional" or "business" or "commercial" media, i.e. the MSM and other commercial media. The core meaning is "not work". Of course that distinction is fading fast. As in the music business, the internet has allowed "content creators" to access an audience directly, and a lot of people have taken it up, they publish and panhandle, and seem to be doing OK with it. What you might call "small media".

And "social media" to socialize in, like you say, that is also a sound usage.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 22 2020 13:41 utc | 20

>and make $2,500 a month write shit on Twitter? Damn. That's twice my monthly pension. Where do I sign up?

My former Congresscritter, a long-time loyal Dummycrat, was on local TV news yesterday to tell us he supports Bloomberg and kept repeating the message that Bloomberg did a wonderful job during the debate.

Meanwhile Ole Bernie is all over this new "Russia Did Something!!!" campaign. None of the hysterical news reports bother to even give us a hint of what it is the Evil Putin is allegedly doing besides "Attacking Our Precious Democracy".

Poor Circe. With Bernie working so hard to be part of the Establishment, Circe will find it more and more difficult to convince us that Bernie is actually anti-establishment and that we should only listen to Circe, and not listen to Bernie's words or watch his actions.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Feb 22 2020 13:45 utc | 21

Another example of American "democracy" and "freedom" at work:

Gabriel Zucman, leading inequality economist was stopped from getting a tenured post at Harvard University because he called for a wealth tax.

Gabriel Zucman, leading inequality economist was stopped from getting a tenured post at Harvard University because he called for a wealth tax.

"Last year, the faculty at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government voted to offer Mr. Zucman, 33, a tenured position. But Harvard’s president and provost nixed the offer, partly over fears that Mr. Zucman’s research could not support the arguments he was making in the political arena, according to people involved in the process." NYT

He subsequently got a post at the University of California, Berkeley.

Posted by: vk | Feb 22 2020 13:46 utc | 22

>How about free passage to (swampy) Latin America?
>Posted by: Christoph | Feb 22 2020 12:54 utc | 14

I'm thinking the Bermuda Triangle would fit right in with their magical thinking and mad delusions.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Feb 22 2020 13:49 utc | 23

Bloomberg + Trump = Checkmate?

Trump will say b writes "fake news".

Damn you Putin!


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 22 2020 13:58 utc | 24

Perhaps the intelligence community would just tell us who we should vote for so as not to fall into Putins trap.

Posted by: jared | Feb 22 2020 14:02 utc | 25

Big news, the US economic activity indicator goes below 50, signalling a contraction in the economy for the first time since the PMI survey began in 2014.

Big news, the US economic activity indicator goes below 50, signalling a contraction in the economy for the first time since the PMI survey began in 2014. The overall 'composiite' indicator fell to 49.6 in February from 53.3 in January - anything below 50 indicates a contraction.

The manufacturing index also fell to 50.8 from 51.5 in January. But the real shocker was the fall in the larger services sector, which dropped to 49.4 from 53.4. This was the first decline in since February 2016 as new business declined the most since the series began in October 2009. new export orders also dropped amid the concerns about the impact of the coronavirus outbreak.

It seems that the US is joining Japan and the Eurozone in stagnating or even contracting in Q1 2020, and China has yet to report on the full economic impact of the coronavirus outbreak.

From my recent post:

"it could be a trigger for a new economic slump because the world capitalist economy has slowed to near ‘stall speed’. The US is growing at just 2% a year, Europe and Japan at just 1%; and the major so-called emerging economies of Brazil, Mexico, Turkey, Argentina, South Africa,and Russia are basically static. The huge economies of India and China have also slowed significantly in the last year and if China takes an economic hit from the disruption caused by 2019-nCoV, that could be a tipping point."

Posted by: vk | Feb 22 2020 14:03 utc | 26

It seems that the issue is that the responsible parties have concerns with the common public being exposed to and sharing information which has not been properly vetted.

Posted by: jared | Feb 22 2020 14:08 utc | 27

So I do not understand. America is filled with folks who are in debt for their education. It would seem that these people should know what goes on in the world.

I understand NYT and WaPo want the people to think that Russia is putting its finger on the scale of our votes to influence and overtake our democracy. All those college grads must have figured out by now that we do not have either democracy or the rule of law. When the law calls for due process but the president has the power to kill its citizens and their children over ideology/patriotism there is no rule of law. When you attack a country and occupy its oil wells and steal its content there is no rule of law. Kind of makes the election a sham.

Let's not dwell on that but think about why Russia or Bloomberg, for that matter, would pay people and create social media accounts to influence the voters when it is not the voters that decide who will be our next master. Check with Hillary about this. She had 3 million more vaginas vote for her.

I would think in a country so filled with educated people they would know that electors decide who will be our next oligarch. Focus attention on them. Buy them out. Americans want money more than democracy that's for sure. Why waste your time and money on the slaves that turn the wheels and pull the levers. They install the toilets and fix'em when they over flow. They just need to show up, with a smile on their face, every fourth year to prove they and their fictional democracy still exists in their heads.

Posted by: Myopia Longshot | Feb 22 2020 14:12 utc | 28


Don't let the Superdelegates derail Bernie. Click on yes button!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 14:13 utc | 29

Come on people! I don't see the YES side moving up...SMASH IT again and again!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 14:17 utc | 30

Post the survey link now on every site you visit. The survey ends in less than one hour!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 14:19 utc | 31

Circe #29-31

How non-sense a "survey" is that, then? Delete the cookies and you can "vote" as often as you please 😳😳😳
Is that what Americans feel is supremacist science? Or is it meant to keep folks busy so they don't realize it's all for nothing?

So people, enjoy the ride and vote, vote, vote! 😎

Posted by: Paleene | Feb 22 2020 14:45 utc | 32

They've deployed the "nuclear option", have they? That's nice.

Let me guess, smoking-gun documents fresh out of the UK, summarized via secret report by former intel officials? 17 agencies, is it?

I don't think it will have the shock value it once had.

But then it's been a solid 100 years of this crap in the US so it isn't about to stop either.

The reality is Dems just got kneecapped by a billionaire Republican megadonor who stole all of their campaign consultants for the year and probably ended Joe Biden's campaign by bidding up the price of polls, so Biden couldn't afford to pay for cherry picked poll data that showed him as a frontrunner.

Posted by: ptb | Feb 22 2020 14:47 utc | 33

The Brother Comrade Vladimir Ilyich quote> “The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.” has become dated...for "rope" read "president".


Wally noted the nukes presumably being transferred from Turk to Poland for Barbarossa 2.0. How Jolly! Those filthy commies seem to have twigged to the con though, since it's up at Duran....

Posted by: Walter | Feb 22 2020 14:53 utc | 34

Too late. The undemocratic Neolib centrist Dems won the survey. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 14:59 utc | 35

You can still continue hitting the YES button on Smerconish survey even though he announced the result already. Just keep hitting YES so he doesn't get that SMUG satisfaction. Can't stand him!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 15:08 utc | 36

Of course the 'sky is falling' Russia revelation/leak/false flag is part of the CIA's ongoing (failed) coup against Trump. But most importantly these revelations are meant to destroy the Bernie Sanders campaign as he gains an insurmountable lead and momentum. The desperate, debauched CIA stooge Democratic Party launches another salvo in its ongoing coup against Sanders. This is nothing to do with Russian interference of US elections, but the interference by Intelligence, working for the Money Power, to preserve the status quo of greed, and murder hope for change in its cradle.

Posted by: gottlieb | Feb 22 2020 15:22 utc | 37

IMO the "Russia meddling" trope is just cover for the real meddlers (ReMs) in our elections. The ReMs don't bother with click bait ads, they use the most effective tool out there to influence voters, candidates, and deep state operatives: the US$. The ReMs give cash to candidates who prefer their policies, and if the candidate does toe the line on their policies, they give the money to their opponent. This is the real meddling, but we don't hear about it because any mention of it results in major shaming as "anti-*******" from the ReMs. The ReMs (even though they are supporting a foreign country) do not have to register as foreign agents in the US (very special treatment) due to specific legislation passed in previous years. The ReMs have bragged about their "support of" (really, buying of) state and federal level legislatures to the point of denying basic Constitutional rights and have been vehemently protected by those bought off people.
This is the most effective fifth column, the principal criminal, not the Russkies.

Posted by: naiverealist | Feb 22 2020 15:23 utc | 38

It would seem that Putin has control of the DNC, (Bloomer sold it to Ivan?)since we see that the rank and file are experiencing gleichschaltung >

Mark Sleboda Retweeted
Rania Khalek
Nevada caucus volunteers are being required to sign NDAs that that prohibit them from speaking to the press or saying anything that makes the Dem party look bad.

This is so shady as caucus volunteers were crucial to exposing the foul play underway in Iowa

Posted by: Walter | Feb 22 2020 15:32 utc | 39

Bloomberg only has to lobby those on the fence, he is not wasting time trying to to lobby those solidly in his corner or Bernie's corner. I would guess Bernie could rely only on Warren to help him at the convention. It looks like it is going to be a mini '68 convention.

In a close election, it will be enough to push Trump over the top. Even if Bloomberg loses, he wins. He is an Epstein like operation without the sex. A guy seeded with money and helped on the path of success to spend his money on an operation like this when needed. There is no guessing where his sympathies lie as the Post 911 NY mayor.

I suspect he is an arm of the Mega Group working behind the scenes to subvert our election. They cover their tracks by blaming the Russians and the populace eats it up. Meanwhile the real manipulators laugh all the way to the bank.

Posted by: dltravers | Feb 22 2020 15:35 utc | 40

The Dim Elites would rather have tRump than Sanders.
He is freaking them to the max.

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Feb 22 2020 15:44 utc | 41

What you might call "small media".

And "social media" to socialize in, like you say, that is also a sound usage.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 22 2020 13:41 utc | 20

Practically, it means that there is a small entry cost to create communication medium, although platforms like Facebook and Twitter can impose barriers and censorship. Additionally, in the sea of social media, sharks try to crowd out voices like b, reports from Syria aggregated by GeromanAt etc. Nevertheless, low entry cost or even zero cost is a huge headache for the powers that were used to issue commands by threat or friendly chat to few agencies and conglomerates.

That is partly funny. There is a whole cottage industry of hustlers who get government grants, consulting contracts and "philanthropic donations" to tackle the problem. The most consistent message is that the governments of the free world do not appreciate the "problem" enough and they should get more money.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 22 2020 15:50 utc | 42

Okay, forget. ANA KASPARIAN, forget KRYSTAL BALL...(they're still great, but...) RANIA KHALEK for President Sanders PRESS SECRETARY!

Watch the Soap Box video. Damn, she knocks it out of the park!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 16:00 utc | 43

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 22 2020 15:50 utc | 42

Yes, I do get a chuckle out of watching this circus from time to time. You are right on about the nature of the political consulting business here too, very like the defense business. Rackets.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 22 2020 16:06 utc | 44

"Lock him up!" "But, but... you can't! He'll just buy the prison!" (Foolish that, he probably already owns it.)

Posted by: juliania | Feb 22 2020 16:15 utc | 45

b's picture of Comrade P and the Piggy will make a fine bill-board advert for Trump... Ah kin see it already. Trumpie hizzself could be looking down holding the rope... The tragedy of unintended secondary after-effects... Part of the "problem" with lies and black propaganda...

I am almost tempted to get a poster made, or stickers to put up by the urinal down at The Dewdrop Inn. Even though I appreciate the Clown's incompetent disruption and enjoy the farce, I can't vote for a criminal thug, so that means I more or less won't.

Posted by: Walter | Feb 22 2020 16:17 utc | 46

We are witnessing the great power that the nation state system can bring to the table to save its own. When the leadership of one of its puppets in a local nation state (The USA) is in trouble, the rest of the nations come to the aide of the leader in distress.. Here Putin, puppet leader of an equally powerful nation state, has put his full force into dividing the gullible Americans over who should be the spy-in-chief and decider-in-chief of the fairness of court judgements about crimes committed by members of the staff of the spy-in-chief and decider-in-chief. .

Predetermined digital electronic outcome electioneering is a hallmark of the nation state system.. Underlying election fixing is the coordinate accurate propaganda engineering so well done by the City of London Central, soon a few murders will come into view, milling trillions will be discovered, and fake make up golly gee disclosures will appear. Just around the corner will be the threat of war, the threat of Coronavirus, etc. the threat of Democracy and the threat of economic warfare. BTW have you heard about the new yellow disease? Yep, people who think about Bernie will turn a deep color of yellow just before the election.

B should be ashamed..his trash is so bad it might wake some people up.. If B keeps this kind of useless journalism up, he might experience the greatest following since the NYT.

Posted by: snake | Feb 22 2020 16:19 utc | 47

Give them yellow cake and circuses. 24/7

Posted by: Copeland | Feb 22 2020 16:46 utc | 48

@Bemildred #20
I honestly don't understand why people still repeat the trope that social media is about anything but money. The millions and billion spent to subsidize these services were provided by investors who clearly believed they would get their money back and more.
How then is this not "work"?

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 22 2020 16:57 utc | 49

@Piotr Berman #42
You said:

Practically, it means that there is a small entry cost to create communication medium, although platforms like Facebook and Twitter can impose barriers and censorship.

This is utter nonsense. It costs a lot of money to create a large capacity communication medium - even disregarding the promotion necessary to get people, en masse, to use it.
Facebook had 14 rounds of funding, raising a total of $2.3 billion before they went IPO.
Snapchat had 13 rounds of funding and raised $4.9B
Twitter had 13 rounds of funding and raised $1.5B
Pinterest: $1.5B
I could go on, but the point is very clear.

Posted by: c1ue | Feb 22 2020 17:02 utc | 50

Sanders on why the story of the briefing from the intelligence came out today

Sanders on why the story of the briefing from the intelligence community he received a month ago came out today:

"I'll let you guess. One day before the Nevada caucuses. Why do you think it came out? It was the Washington Post? Good friends."

Posted by: vk | Feb 22 2020 17:11 utc | 51

Let's be honest with ourselves. We all know that American minds are extremely weak and fragile and Americans cannot be exposed to any informations which they are far too helpless to process correctly.

We absolutely need to be protected from any ideas that might derail our defenceless little minds.

Thank heaven that the kindly US Government is defending us from wrongful ideas that we cannot possibly handle ourselves.

Posted by: blues | Feb 22 2020 17:18 utc | 52

There are other ways to make money besides Facebook and Twitter (is Twitter actually profitable?). There are no better ways to build the Panopticon. The Stasi only dreamed of building a system where peons and troublemakers reported on themselves, complete with photographs and lists of contacts.

I still have trouble understanding that people who are actually skillful and literate enough to use Facebook refuse to see that it is a giant spy machine used for social control. Every day there are reports of people who lost their job or otherwise had their life smashed up over a Facebook/Twitter post. The media don't exactly hide that the first thing police investigators look at is their hand-held computer and their Spybook account. And still people are happy to report their most private details for all the spooks to harvest and store.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Feb 22 2020 17:24 utc | 53

hey circe... you're not a russian agent by chance? you don't have to answer!!! i'm telling twitter, lol..

Posted by: james | Feb 22 2020 17:42 utc | 54

vk @51

Sadly ironic: Sanders believes that Russia meddled.

Russiagate is McCarthyism.

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Every US Presidential candidate is pro-Empire.

Martin Luther King, who led an independent Movement had the balls to denounce the Vietnam War and the Empire-builders. Zionist Sanders doesn't.

The Empire costs all of us a bundle, makes us less safe, and leads to civil and human rights violations up to and including crimes against humanity.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 22 2020 17:51 utc | 55

Re: c1ue | Feb 22 2020 17:02 utc

It depends what you call "medium". Facebook, Twitter etc. are huge "platforms" that do not produce the content. In old days, if you wanted other people to read what you wrote, you could start a newspaper, so there was some cost of doing that, then economics of new business changed, to afford to pay writers, reporters etc. you had to have advertising and some scale. Starting a competitor to NYT required deep pockets of someone like Murdoch.

Now b can operate with a budget that he/she can cover himself with some modest help to the "poor poet", and people who read, while not that many, form an audience around the globe. If he got a lot of readers he could get problems paying for bandwidth that could be solve by raising more money -- from more numerous readers, or allowing ads.

And giving access to your writing on Twitter you probably do not need any money, and with "monetizing", you can get some. There is some Faustian deal, so far Twitter owners are relatively decent, one made a contribution to Gabbard. Facebook seems to be a different story.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 22 2020 17:59 utc | 56

@54 james

So one day I have Trump Derangement Syndrome, cause I've been relentlessly against Trump since day one, believe he's a Ziofascist and a sleazy con and now you're pegging me with Russia? This is not merely a personal ad hom.

Uh, I got a new word for you, MOA weathervane : slander.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 18:07 utc | 57

c'mon circe.. lighten up.. i was just having fun with ya!

Posted by: james | Feb 22 2020 18:21 utc | 58

keep taking everything serious and sooner or later you are going to be seriously dead!

Posted by: james | Feb 22 2020 18:22 utc | 59

Bit early for April Fool's, isn't it?

But seriously, even if the notion that Bloomie were a Putin operative were true, I still wouldn't like Bloomie.

Posted by: corvo | Feb 22 2020 18:34 utc | 60

james @ 59:

No great loss, eh?

Posted by: corvo | Feb 22 2020 18:35 utc | 61

I hate to break circe's bubble, but here's Saunders responding to a WaPoo trash article:

“I don’t care, frankly, who Putin wants to be president. My message to Putin is clear: Stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do. In 2016, Russia used Internet propaganda to sow division in our country, and my understanding is that they are doing it again in 2020.”

Sorry dear. Russia did not use internet propaganda to sow division in 2016.... the Dims did it all by themselves. So Saunders is a.) delusional or b.) just another lying politician or c.) hoping the J. Bozo drops a check in the mail?

Question: the WaPoo seems to have become the new National Inquirer, yes? Does J. Bozo really need the money?

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Feb 22 2020 18:48 utc | 62

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 18:07 utc | 57
So you feel offended / insulted by being pegged with Russia? Wow.
If someone did it to me, I would take it as a compliment.
Thinking about that, I find your attitude offensive actually, because it is Russophobic.
Kudos to james to yank it out from you.

Posted by: hopehely | Feb 22 2020 18:51 utc | 63

Sanders isn't delusional: he's a billionaire.

Circe is most likely not a billionaire. Sorry Circe, and you're not the only one :)

So much for ideology, same as it ever was.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Feb 22 2020 19:00 utc | 64

@58 james

Some low-blow j🤨ke👎. Credibility is everything for someone to whom the truth is sacred. To a weathervane like you; it means 💩.


Good name in man and woman, dear my lord,
Is the immediate jewel of their souls.
Who steals my purse steals trash; 'tis something, nothing;
'Twas mine, 'tis his, and has been slave to thousands;
But he that filches from me my good name
Robs me of that which not enriches him,
And makes me poor indeed.

Othello Act 3, scene 3, 155–161

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 19:01 utc | 65

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 22 2020 13:41 utc | 20

The "social" is "social media" is in contrast to "professional" or "business" or "commercial" media, i.e. the MSM and other commercial media.

I understand "social media" literally in the Orwellian sense, it is "social" media just like war is peace. The true meaning is "asocial media" which prevents real interaction, and under complete control by big brother, you can become a non-person at any moment.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 22 2020 19:12 utc | 66

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 19:01 utc | 65

Thank you for the confirmation.
I rest my case.

Posted by: hopehely | Feb 22 2020 19:13 utc | 67

The American "D"emocracy is a theater of the absurd - not sure if it is a tragedy or a comedy or a tragicomedy. But one thing I am absolutely sure about is the high level of intelligence of the Sheeple.

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Feb 22 2020 19:20 utc | 68

Circe @65: ... the truth is sacred [to me]

Really? You've ignored or dismissed valid, fact-based, criticism of Bernie. Bernie's willingness to play along with the Russiagate nonsense is just one example.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 22 2020 19:20 utc | 69

So one day I have Trump Derangement Syndrome, cause I've been relentlessly against Trump since day one, believe he's a Ziofascist and a sleazy con and now you're pegging me with Russia? This is not merely a personal ad hom.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 18:07 utc | 57

In my estimate during primaries of 2016, Trump was not so much "Ziofascist" as his competitors, one of them asked what he would do in a case of Middle East crisis, and he proudly said that he would call Netanyahu first. There was a very vigorous competition who can be more servile toward Israel, and Trump was not trying hard at all. He focused more on personal denigration of everyone who stood in his path or anyone else that he could mock to adulating crowds who would hoop and holler. In other words, a fascist without a prefix, and generally, a creep.

His latest "peace plan" fully documents that while he was "nuancing" back in 2016, he could outdo Rubio, Cruz and the other lowlives, he could outdo them. The idea to make Palestinians "happy" by giving them tunnels to move around out of sight of the "above people" (sound better in German) was really inspired. Before, the worshippers of "our best ally" would babble about "cultural superiority" but they would not go so far as proposing to make them "below people" (again, sounds better in German). For that matter, I am not aware of the separation going so far under the original Apartheid.
Question: the WaPoo seems to have become the new National Inquirer, yes? Does J. Bozo really need the money?

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Feb 22 2020 18:48 utc | 62

Billionaires did not get to where they are by neglecting profit opportunities.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Feb 22 2020 19:26 utc | 70

@61 corvo 🖕

@63 hopehely

Thinking about that, I find your attitude offensive actually, because it is Russophobic.

I'm not Russophobic. I just don't respect Russians ra-ra for Trump, I mean their Trump infatuation, and I don't believe Putin walks on water, either. Besides that I have no bias against Russia. I hope you don't hate me for that.

@62 Miss Lacy

I agree that WAPO has turned into a political yellow rag.

However, Bernie did not create the perception that Russians are infatuated with Trump. In 2017, Bernie voted against new sanctions on Iran and Russia. You don't understand; Bernie is an even-handed, level-headed person.

Bernie doesn't hate Russia. He went there for his honeymoon in 1988 and took a lot of flak just for expressing appreciation for its culture and arts programs for the young.

Maybe Russians shouldn't uncork champagne on T.V. for a loser like Trump. It doesn't give a good impression.

james @59, you see what you started???


Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 19:39 utc | 71

We need to End the DNC, RNC, Political Parties, and PACs.

Every Candidate can run on their Own and Others' Personal Stash of CASH.

Nothing Borrowed, nothing Mortgaged.

Hard Cold, Verified CASH with Limits to Contributions - say, 25K Per Year for Each Registered Citizen-Voter. Candidates can use their Own CASH - up to a Billion (in 2016 Dollars).

Campaigns start on the First Working Tuesday of the Election Year.

Posted by: IronForge | Feb 22 2020 19:41 utc | 72

Not on topic, Sorry

Any recommendations for websites re the Idlib military situation apart from Southfront?

Posted by: chet380 | Feb 22 2020 19:44 utc | 73

Would Bernie have any chance if he didn't along, at least a little, with Russiagate? I know a few self-professed "woke progressives" (i.e., identity ideologues) who still love the hilarious Red Queen and wouldn't need much of an excuse to ditch Bernie, classing him as a Russian asset along with Trump. In school in the 1960s we laughed at McCarthyism - now its embraced by Dems. Anyhow, I might be wrong.

Posted by: spudski | Feb 22 2020 19:48 utc | 74

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 22 2020 19:12 utc | 66

I understand your point, and I think it's a sound one, whatever
we are doing here on the internet it's not "real life", and we still
have to go back and deal with real life at times, sleep and eat etc.
Talk to real people in person, as they quaintly say, in "meatspace".

But we humans have been building our own environments and living in them
for a long time, so to be expected, I think, aside from all the support
from the government it's had. It's pretty comfy on the internet, anonymous,
it seems pretty safe too, and lots of things to do.

I have doubts that big piles of data and spying on everyone are as useful
as they claim. I think a lot of it is the usual techno-hype and marketing FUD.

Nevertheless, I've never had a facebook account, I used my brother's for a bit
after he died, but I've always found it very annoying to work with, buggy,
clumsy, and mostly babble.

Posted by: Bemildred | Feb 22 2020 19:51 utc | 75

"if he didn't GO along" and "now it's embraced" - I even previewed, getting old, sorry.

Posted by: spudski | Feb 22 2020 19:52 utc | 76

Oh yeah, I should have known Jackrabbit would try to milk this!

Jackrabbit and james cl🤡wn car duo.

I'm glad Bernie gave Russia and WAPO SHET!


Now, that doesn't mean I don't want concrete proof that Russia's messing around with Bernie's campaign. But if it's true I got news for Putin:

Bernie is going to, he's going to CRUSH TRUMP. So don't put your money on that horse...'s ass!


Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 19:59 utc | 77

Yesterday, Pepe Escobar made a similar entry on his Facebook page to which I replied as follows:

"Why would Russia do that when Trump's doing such a good job of further ruining the USA and Bloomberg would do an even better job of it, whereas Sanders would actually improve the nation and make it a stronger competitor. 100% illogical and spastic!"

One of his entries today deals with the Iranian election which saw the "Conservatives" gain ground, which in the circumstances was a likely result. And if you haven't yet, check out Pepe's article at Strategic Culture.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 22 2020 20:05 utc | 78

chet380 @ 73

Re: Idlib news: try the comments at

Posted by: pogohere | Feb 22 2020 20:08 utc | 79

Kind reminder to please not feed the trolls (who want attention and to focus the discussion on themselves).

Posted by: Deltaeus | Feb 22 2020 20:15 utc | 80

"... Russia’s broader interest in sowing division in the United States and uncertainty about the validity of American elections..."

hell, I think there's been sizeable skepticism about the validity of US elections since the Supreme Court pulled off a coup d'etat against Gore in 2000, and then went ahead again to load the dice in Citizens United to give it all away to the oligarchs and Ruling Class with their truck loads of money and dirty laundrying

no 'russian assets' need to add anything to that pathetic track record of American 'democracy'.... and that's just from the past short 20 years

I always thought the thing about 'sowing division in the US' was one of the Elites most hilarious and laughable memes - what we need is a satirist as great as Moliere

Posted by: michaelj72 | Feb 22 2020 20:18 utc | 81

@ deltaeus.... nothing like knocking a beehive on a quiet saturday... sorry for interrupting this important conversation..

Posted by: james | Feb 22 2020 20:24 utc | 82

I am for Bloomberg. Why? Because the Russians have taken over the White House. Just ask Hillary. I errorously believed that billionaires, banksters, generals, rotten CEOs from pharma, MIC, energy, lobbyists with cash, controlled the White House and Trump. But somehow the Russians pushed all of them out. It is about time that AMERICAN billionaires, AMERICAN banksters, AMERICAN generals, AMERICAN rotten CEOs from pharma, MIC, energy, and AMERICAN lobbyists with cash, reassert and regain gosh darn control of the White House like in the good ole patriotic days. Down with borsch!

Posted by: Erelis | Feb 22 2020 20:38 utc | 83

Well, Putin , Bloomberg and Trump have one thing in common, and that thing wont ever be mentioned in this campaign.

Posted by: Pft | Feb 22 2020 20:49 utc | 84

I'm watching the Nevada caucuses, and CNN and MSNBC are the ones getting shellacked! The best revenge is coming...very, very soon.

Chris Mathews, Chuck Todd, Anderson Cooper, Jake Tapper and the other mainstream tools eat this 💩!

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 20:52 utc | 85

To quote: "Russia’s broader interest in sowing division in the United States and uncertainty about the validity of American elections."

A democracy without division, really dissent, is not a democracy. "Hey hey we must not have division over Wall Street or police abuse.....let's have harmony. No no no say no more or you create division."

Want to get a prespective on American democracy? Ask African Americans and other minority groups (such as Hispanics and the wrong sort of European immigrants) what has been done to their right to vote and dissent both now (see Georgia) or in the past (see Jim Crow).

Posted by: Erelis | Feb 22 2020 20:54 utc | 86

I said this back in 2016 when Russiagate started that it was a poisoned well that the Democrats and the Deep State/National Security establishment would never stop returning to. And here we are, within the space 72 hours the Democrats have accused Russia of "meddling" in the 2020 election by supporting Trump AND Sanders, so I take it that from now on whenever any candidate appears that might upset the establishment even a little bit, they will be accused of being Russian puppets.

This gives the Democrat Party leadership yet another potential weapon to use against Bernie Sanders in the event of a brokered convention, they'll just bleat out "we can't nominate Bernie, the Russians tainted the process to support him". Trump at least can call the Democrats out on their B.S. and call them liars right to their faces, but poor Bernie wont have the courage to do that (at least from what I've seen so far). His own words about Russian "meddling" in 2016 will haunt him, he'll say that the Russians shouldn't have meddled but it won't have impacted his support, but they'll counter that the nomination process was tainted and the DNC has no choice but to discuss how to proceed with the nomination process. That's how they'll try to kill Bernie's candidacy, the "discussion" will just be a bunch of declarations, ultimatums and public commitments they will extract from Bernie to try and break Bernie from his base and either halt his movement's momentum or kill it outright.

I don't know if it will work but the DNC has a history of doubling down against the people's favorite. If the DNC pursue this stratagem I imagine we'll see some talking heads show up in March pushing for a discussion among the candidates on how to respond to Russian meddling, maybe even some debate questions. Either way, Sander needs to come out swinging against whatever the DNC suggests (ideally he should put forth his own suggestion and steer the conversation down a path he choses). Rest assured whatever the DNC puts forth, the goal won't be to protect the electoral process it will be to bog down the nomination process with a dead horse debate in order to blunt Sander's momentum so that a brokered convention to pick someone else won't be such an obvious democratic betrayal.

If the DNC succeeds in screwing Bernie (and more importantly Bernie's supporters) out of a presidential nomination for an election they could have won, It will be a paradigm shift in US internal politics, a second 9/11 that will radically alter how all elections within the US are perceived by the public forever. in the same way 9/11 normalized the concept of the Forever War within the US (also called "Generational War" for those who wish to obscure truth), a "Milwaukee Screw job 2020" will normalize the concept of a moribund political establishment within the DNC that will strangle even mild political reform movement conducted within the system itself. While this will preserve the political establishment for a time, the economic and political crises that created these movements will remain unresolved and having de-facto declared maintaining these crises official party policy by blocking reform efforts within the existing political system, these movements will become radicalized and we'll see return of radical movements similar to those of the 1970s (or 1900s). Eventually either the political system will be reformed or it will collapse, but this will take time (a generation perhaps more). At the very least, this period time and all of the people who lived during it will be robbed of their full political agency, a massive lose to US society and political sophistication. In the worst case, it will result in a political collapse of the US, which will entail a massive cost to the US's human, economic, political and international capital comparable to Russian in 1917

Posted by: Kadath | Feb 22 2020 20:58 utc | 87

Oh, yeah Wapo Jeff Bozo IDEM!

Next time instead of the kichen sink throw a spatula, it'll have the same effect.


Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 20:58 utc | 88

Why does Bloomberg his handlers fear Sanders so much? Out of his own mouth find out why...

Bernie Sanders Discusses U.S. Conflict With Iran/Iraq
When Congress cuts off the money the war is over.

Senator Bernie Sanders A War With Iran Would Be An Absolute Disaster
I have to hand it to Bernie, he lays it on the line.

Posted by: dltravers | Feb 22 2020 21:01 utc | 89

Oh gawd!

You wanna see what a gobsmacked media looks like??? Watch CNN or MSNBC! It's pricelesss! 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 21:04 utc | 90

"I'm not Russophobic. I just don't respect Russians ra-ra for Trump, I mean their Trump infatuation"

What "Russians ra-ra- for Trump"? What Russian "Trump infatuation"?

Posted by: corvo | Feb 22 2020 21:07 utc | 91

I'm having trouble comprehending how so many Sanders supporters can defend him as a peacenik who has to play along with the war machine and the Dim Party Russiagate fantasies just to get along, and assume he'll do a 180-degree turn once in office. Once in office, he'll be even more beholden to those interests than he is now.

Myself, I prefer to go on a candidate's record, not his promises (or worse, the blank spots in his platform) -- and between Bernie's support for every recent US war (Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, and Yemen; one might as well throw in his support of Israel's various Gazan turkey shoots too) except the one figleafed by the 2003 AUMF -- although he did vote repeatedly in favor of Iraqi "regime change" and Bill Clinton's starvation blockade; his demented rantings about Russia; and his quite frankly terrifyingly bellicose statements to the NYT a few days ago, I simply have to assume he's quite honest about being a war pig. Oh, and F-35s, anyone?

Posted by: corvo | Feb 22 2020 21:17 utc | 92

And please do mention that he is a republican who could not run a campaign against trump because the republican did not allow anyone on their side to run against trump. No primaries here. You know, just for perspective.

As far as the US goes, the experiment is done, overdone, over cooked, dead, expired and it does not matter what billionaire / millionaire clown gets elected. the people of the us have no value to the ruling class other then the monetary value that can be extracted from them.

Heck, the US citizens have amply shown that they have no issue with racism, misogyny, cruelty against the children, elders, sick, disabled, people of color, people not white heterosexual patriarch and so forth. They literally finally got the government they resemble and that they deserve. Pro forced birth, and not a fucking dime for the birthed life.

so how about just one article of how the current shitshow is actually affecting the people rather then this impotent hand wringing of billionaires who like Putin are interested not in the well being of the people, but rather in the well being of their portfolios. And if anyone thinks that Putin does not think Russia is his 'portfolio' there are some bridges somewhere for sale.

As for Sanders, Putin, Trump, please if there is a God, just smite the fuckers.

Posted by: Sabine | Feb 22 2020 21:27 utc | 93

charlie chan says Russia not backing any US politician.

Russia already had taste of fascism and communism.

Posted by: charliechan | Feb 22 2020 21:28 utc | 94

corvo @92: I simply have to assume he's quite honest about being a war pig.

And once one has made this observation, a few thoughts quickly follow:

  • What else he is lying about?
  • Why is it that all the candidates are war pigs?
  • whose interests are served in stacking the deck so that EMPIRE/war is not discussed?


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Feb 22 2020 21:29 utc | 95

charliechan @94

Way to change the channel, charlie.

Posted by: spudski | Feb 22 2020 21:39 utc | 96

Posted by: Sabine | Feb 22 2020 21:27 utc | 93

Oh Yeh, Misha Khodorkovsky was all about Russia and Democracy. What a shame that that rat Putin put him out of business.

Hell, so far it looks like if it was not for Putin Russia would be just another Nigeria or current Libya. Or wait, you probably have a better candidate, Medviediev or Navalny. Yehh, that's the ticket for a better Life.

Pizdiets !@!@@

Posted by: Tom_LX | Feb 22 2020 21:44 utc | 97

Bernie's speaking at a rally in Texas right now and giving the best speech of his campaign so far.

Bernie's on 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥FIRE!

No official results yet in Navada,

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 21:57 utc | 98

Circe will be more than smiles:

Nevada Caucuses results

less than 2% reporting:
Bernie 190 votes 51.21% Biden follows 94 votes 25.34% followed by Steyer and Warren
Butti in 5th place 17 votes 4.58%
Live Results

Posted by: Likklemore | Feb 22 2020 22:05 utc | 99

James Carville, DNC Doomsday Prophet...
GO TO HELL, where you belong!

@99.Likklemore Thanks, I've been following it.

Posted by: Circe | Feb 22 2020 22:27 utc | 100

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