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Those Who Have Visions …
The former German chancellor Helmut Schmidt once famously said:
People who have visions should go see a doctor.
Yesterday U.S. President Donald Trump published a Vision for Peace, Prosperity, and a Brighter Future for Israel and the Palestinian People. The paper refers to 'vision' 28 times.
It is similar to this Lebanese 'Vision for Peace' for a brighter future for the people in North America which foresees some split of territory between natives and colonial settlers.
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Visions do not create rights. They have no legal grounds. They do not convey legality to anything.
Trump, his Zionist donors and the U.S. media seem to have trouble understanding that. They will be educated by those who continue to stand up for the rights of the Palestinian people.
When it comes to geopolitical analysis, you folks are top notch – I learn a lot – nearly every visit. But when it comes to misinterpreting God’s Word, I am obligated to speak up
I admit it’s tempting to prattle on the way you do given how Evil has co-opted Christianity, and twisted it for greed and gain, and inflicted enormous suffering down through the ages. But that isn’t the Gospel! And the stuff you say about Jesus is SO off-base and without ANY merit in Scripture
C.S.Lewis once aptly pointed out that given what Jesus proclaimed about Himself, He could ONLY be 1 of 3 things: a liar, a lunatic or God (source: Mere Christianity). Being a moral teacher or whatever else was said in this thread is not an option as it contradicts the above options. Jesus can’t claim to be God AND be a moral teacher, unless He is indeed God. If He is NOT God, then He is liar or a lunatic – it’s that simple
To b,or whomever moderates this thread, I am NOT proselytizing – just setting the record straight – so you guys know the Truth. Now if it means this comment gets deleted or worse I get banned, so be it – it will be a badge I wear proudly, as I serve a living, risen Saviour and it is His opinion that matters most to me
Now what I’m saying may sound like utter gibberish to you, and that’s fine. “The cross is foolishness to them that are perishing”… Intellect alone does not get you right with God – it is many things: it is faith, it is grace, mercy, forgiveness, love, etc
Now if you guys want chapter & verse, I am MORE than happy to lay it all out here…
If you guys want to babble on about the Bible being “just another book”, by all means, that is your prerogative – feel free to dissect it like any other historical document, but you will be doing yourselves a grave disservice.
And no, God, the Creator of the universe & my Saviour, needs no defense from me… He is more than capable
But it is my honour and duty to speak up…
In closing, seeing as this might be my last post… I marvel at all the blathering about politicians as if there is ANY hope in them – there isn’t. You guys carry on as if they’re stupid – if ONLY they could see what we see, THEN they would do the right thing – WRONG! All these western politicians can’t ALL be simultaneously ignorant… but they can all be blackmailed or bought or even demonically influenced… Luciferianism is real and is the true basis of Zionism. And sadly Christians in the US allowed Zionists to influence Biblical theology via Scolfield. That’s where the unbiblical notion of the “rapture” came from… the Western Christians have been beguiled ever since, and so much so that many are not true Christians… and how can they be? With their support of the illegal occupier of Palestine, the blood of other Christians are on their hands, especially in the ME.
On Judgement Day, the so-called zionist-“christians” will be in for a surprise:
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’”
Thank you all… trolls too… “iron sharpens iron”… this site has been a blessing to me, for the most part… thanks b
OK, back to your regularly scheduled programming…
Posted by: xLemming | Jan 31 2020 2:36 utc | 146
The real problem is that the western world is run by bankers and a surprisingly large proportion of the most influential ones are Jewish. They control the media (including Hollywood) and have a death grip on most western governments. Why else would 2/3 of the UK parliament be in ‘Friends of Israel’ groups, why else do US politicians have to swear undying loyalty to the nasty little apartheid war criminal state? Mark U @ 9.
to Steven tjohnson @17 millions of Americans [believe the Mob in London, Paris and America, gave Palestine to the Jews]. Those who believe Palestine was to be a Gift from God should read this have not read this London’s five eyes toward an explanation for WWI and WWII.
There’s a reason the Zionist and Nazi behaviours are so similar… they are simply using the illegitimate authority process as overwhelmingly demonstrated by Milgram and Zimbardo, using Bernay’s sociopathic propaganda recipes. Different objectives, but the exact same methodology. by: A P @ 37
<== sorta but I think Zionist are just engaging in King of the Mountain Economics. They seem to have goals, but I don't see adherence to a process.
To AP @ 68 =>The solution to the word “Zionism” and its use as a symbol of international power.
Zionism is a mob coordinated behind the scenes system of economics made to appear to be a Jewish racial and religious doctrine. Its the deep state of the deep state hiding behind the propaganda that uses Herzl’s dream to continue its operations. The propaganda promotes that the world is made of the ethno Jew but it fronts a system of winner-take-all-economics.
Zionism has many non Jews among its powerful adherents. Propaganda magic transformed mobsterism into Jewish Zionism. The real problem is that the western world is run by bankers and a surprisingly large proportion of the most influential ones are Jewish. They control the media (including Hollywood) and have a death grip on most western governments. Why else would 2/3 of the UK parliament be in ‘Friends of Israel’ groups, why else do US politicians have to swear undying loyalty to the nasty little apartheid war criminal state? Mark U @ 9.
to Steven tjohnson @17 millions of Americans [believe the Mob in London, Paris and America, gave Palestine to the Jews. Those who believe Palestine was to be a Gift from God should read this have not read this London’s five eyes toward an explanation for WWI and WWII.
There’s a reason the Zionist and Nazi behaviours are so similar… they are simply using the illegitimate authority process as overwhelmingly demonstrated by Milgram and Zimbardo, using Bernay’s sociopathic propaganda recipes. Different objectives, but the exact same methodology. by: A P @ 37
<== sorta but I think Zionist are just engaging in King of the Mountain Ecomomics. They seem to have goals, but I don't see adherence to a process.
To AP @ 68 =>The solution to the word “Zionism” and its use as a symbol of international power<= most certainly is not Jewish ethno nationalism or ethno_jewish_pseudo-nationalism or anything like that.
Zionism is not a racial thing, race serves to cover for Zionism.
Zionism is a mob coordinated system of economics made to appear to be a Jewish racial and religious doctrine. Its the deep state of the deep state hiding behind the propaganda that uses Herzl's dream to continue its operations. The propaganda promotes that the world is made of the ethno Jew but it fronts a system of winner-take-all-economics.
Zionism has many non Jews among its powerful adherents. Propaganda magic transformed mobsterism into Jewish Zionism. Zionism is one more example of that divide and conquer strategy that has made humans victims of political power since the beginning of time. The folks hiding behind Zionism have made Jews into their soldiers, set the Jews up to be used as cannon fodder, when convenient to the needs of totalitarian economic intentions.
Zionism is a system of economics designed to make just one person wealthy, already it has narrowed the field down to a few people. A Zionist controlled economy flows all wealth to the few. and continues to narrow the few to fewer and fewer, it uses propaganda to conscript everyone else to its purpose, which is not, was not, and never will be genetically Jewish, one does not need a single Jewish gene to be a Zionist, being of the Jewish race is not a qualification to adopt the Zionist Manifesto...membership is competitive.. the nationalist rhetoric you speak of was not German, but Prussian, and Prussian came directly from the colonialism that victimized nations and their humanity around the globe since the Mormandy invasions. Centered within Switzerland, the city of London, London, UK and NYC. Hertzl's wish was funded by the mob, in 1897 at Basil, Switzerland. Zionism is a product of propaganda that fronts or hides the structures and activities of the economic intentions of the mobsters. Zionism developed a propaganda and used it to conscript the geneo Jewish elements in Europe and elsewhere into forming invading armies of Jews, that could serve the mobster purposes. Entho Jewish elements following Herzl's ideology became victims to the propaganda that Zionism represents the salvation of Judaism and keeps pure the Jewish race. <=without a pure race there can be no divide and conquer binary. Herzl-ism fronts mob intentions (deep state, banksters, corporations, privateers, and others) and serves the its feudal grants to its Jewish adherents in order to materialize the promise in the propaganda.
=> said to be a Trump Ordered definition imposed by the USA on Americans by amendment t/e civil rights act.
– defines being Jewish as both a nationality and religion under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, making it easier for the Department of Education to cut the funding for institutions that allow speakers, organizations and events that the White House regards as “anti-Semitic.” BDS is one such organization and has been particularly targeted.
https://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and-Publications/BAIC/Historical-Data/Constitutional-Amendments-and-Legislation/ –
Jan @ 48 says it well => Nazi is nazi because of two qualities. they speak the cant and they do the crimes. The specific dialect is interesting, adds nuance, but not essential. This might be named the “Forrest Gump Definition of nazi” nazi is as nazi does. You can see it miles away.
Along comes Karlof1 @ 83 with words that need repeating in full here goes ..
“Long ago I wrote that Zionists were the planet’s most virulent anti-semites and were 100% racist in that regard. Nothing has really changed in the 40+ years since. Alan Hart’s three volumes documenting Zionism: Real Enemy of the Jews take awhile to get through but are well worth the effort if one really wants to know.
There are two important aspects of Judaism I believe are essential and shared with my students. First is all land and people are the property of god. Second is only god can provide a homeland for his people–they are not allowed to take it for themselves. Those are the two main reasons why you see Orthodox Jews burning the Israeli flag and saying Zionistan is an abomination and its creation goes against god’s will.
by: karlof1 @ 83″ and the concept of Exceptionalism is very much Old Testament.also by: karlof1 @ 119
Bubbles @ 90 says “”God’s “covenant” in Genesis, Exodus and Deuteronomy with the Jewish people is NOT ABOUT AN ETHNICITY AND NOT ABOUT A CONTRACT. IT IS ABOUT A WAY OF BEHAVING.”
Jayne @ 93 says WHO is directing this behavior?
The link posted by comment 67 says it all.by: mcohen @ 99 <= it says it all if you don't look back before the Ottoman empire was quashed.. by the mob posing as Jewish Zionist. It you reach back a little further you will see that Israel was formed because Whales which provided the world with oil were disappearing..
vig @ 130 I see you did not mention Bismark.. Wilhelm II in his book was very disappointed in Bismark but politically it was difficult for Wilhelm II to manuever around Bismark but I cannot read the books that say much about Bismark, what side of the fence was he on ? thanks. for your post.. I have saved it for later. .
@ Really @ 149.=>. why not make the person who sold the garbage take it back.. that would put pressure on the people that package everything in a non bio-disposable container. Zionism is one more example of that divide and conquer strategy that has made humans victims of political power since the beginning of time. The folks hiding behind Zionism have made Jews into their soldiers, set the Jews up to be used as cannon fodder, when convenient to the needs of totalitarian economic intentions.
Zionism is a system of economics designed to make just one person wealthy, already it has narrowed the field down to a few people. A Zionist controlled economy flows all wealth to the few. and continues to narrow the few to fewer and fewer, it uses propaganda to conscript everyone else to its purpose, which is not, was not, and never will be genetically Jewish, one does not need a single Jewish gene to be a Zionist, being of the Jewish race is not a qualification to adopt the Zionist Manifesto…membership is competitive.. the nationalist rhetoric you speak of was not German, but Prussian, and Prussian came directly from the colonialism that victimized nations and their humanity around the globe since the Mormandy invasions. Centered within Switzerland, the city of London, London, UK and NYC. Hertzl’s wish was funded by the mob, in 1897 at Basil, Switzerland. Zionism is a product of propaganda that fronts or hides the structures and activities of the economic intentions of the mobsters. Zionism developed a propaganda and used it to conscript the geneo Jewish elements in Europe and elsewhere into forming invading armies of Jews, that could serve the mobster purposes. Entho Jewish elements following Herzl’s ideology became victims to the propaganda that Zionism represents the salvation of Judaism and keeps pure the Jewish race. <=without a pure race there can be no divide and conquer binary. Herzl-ism fronts mob intentions (deep state, banksters, corporations, privateers, and others) and serves the its feudal grants to its Jewish adherents in order to materialize the promise in the propaganda.
consider this said to be Trump Ordered definition imposed by the USA on Americans
- defines being Jewish as both a nationality and religion under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, making it easier for the Department of Education to cut the funding for institutions that allow speakers, organizations and events that the White House regards as “anti-Semitic.” BDS is one such organization and has been particularly targeted.
https://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and-Publications/BAIC/Historical-Data/Constitutional-Amendments-and-Legislation/ –
Jan @ 48 says it well => nazi is nazi because of two qualities. they speak the cant and they do the crimes. The specific dialect is interesting, adds nuance, but not essential. This might be named the “Forrest Gump Definition of nazi” nazi is as nazi does. You can see it miles away.
Along comes Karlof1 @ 83 with words that need repeating in full here goes ..
” Zionists ..are the planet’s most virulent anti-semites and 100% racist.. Alan Hart’s three volumes documenting Zionism: Real Enemy of the Jews take awhile to get through but are well worth the effort if one really wants to know.
…First all land and people are the property of god. Second only god can provide a homeland for his people–<==they are not allowed to take it for themselves. Those are the two main reasons why you see Orthodox Jews burning the Israeli flag and saying Zionistan is an abomination and its creation goes against god's will. by: karlof1 @ 83" and the concept of Exceptionalism is very much Old Testament.also by: karlof1 @ 119
Bubbles @ 90 says ""God's "covenant" in Genesis, Exodus and Deuteronomy with the Jewish people is NOT ABOUT AN ETHNICITY AND NOT ABOUT A CONTRACT. IT IS ABOUT A WAY OF BEHAVING."
Jayne @ 93 says WHO is directing this behavior?
The link posted by comment 67 says it all.by: mcohen @ 99 <= it says it all if you don't look back before the Ottoman empire was quashed.. by the mob posing as Jewish Zionist. It you reach back a little further you will see that Israel was formed because Whales which provided the world with oil were disappearing..
vig @ 130 I see you did not mention Bismark.. Wilhelm II in his book was very disappointed in Bismark but politically it was difficult for Wilhelm II to maneuver around Bismark but I cannot read the books that say much about Bismark, what side of the fence was he on ? thanks. for your post.. I have saved it for later. .
@ Really @ 149.=>. why not make the person who sold the garbage take it back.. that would put pressure on the people that package everything in a non bio-disposable container.
Posted by: snake | Jan 31 2020 7:20 utc | 163
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