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January 06, 2020

Axis Of Resistance Says How It Will Avenge Qassem Soleimani

The media continue to tell fairytales about Qassem Soleimani and about Trump's decision to assassinate him and PMU leader Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis. Meanwhile the Resistance Axis announced how it will avenge their deaths.

In their descriptions of Qassem Soleimani U.S. media fail to mention that Soleimani and the U.S. fought on the same side. In 2001 Iran supported the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. It used its good relations with the Hazara Militia and the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance, which both the CIA and Iran had supplied for years, to support the U.S. operation. The Wikipedia entry for the 2001 uprising in Herat lists U.S. General Tommy Franks and General Qassem Soleimani as allied commanders.

The collaboration ended in 2002 after George W. Bush named Iran as a member of his "Axis of Evil".

In 2015 the U.S. and Iran again collaborated. This time to defeat ISIS in Iraq. During the battle to liberate Tikrit the U.S. air force flew in support of General Soleimani's ground forces. Newsweek reported at that time:

While western nations, including the U.S., were slow to react to ISIS's march across northern Iraq, Soleimani was quick to play a more public role in Tehran's efforts to tackle the terror group. For example, the commander was seen in pictures with militiamen in the northern Iraqi town of Amerli when it was recaptured from ISIS last September.
Top U.S. general Martin Dempsey has said that the involvement of Iran in the fight against ISIS in Iraq could be a positive step, as long as the situation does not descend into sectarianism, because of fears surrounding how Shia militias may treat the remaining Sunni population of Tikrit if it is recaptured. The military chief also claimed that almost two thirds of the 30,000 offensive were Iranian-backed militiamen, meaning that without Iranian assistance and Soleimani's guidance, the offensive on Tikrit may not have been possible.

It is deplorable that U.S. media and politicians blame Soleimani for U.S. casualties during the invasion of Iraq. Shia groups caused only 17% of all U.S. casualties and fought, like the Sadr Brigades, without support from Iran. There are also revived claims that Iran provided the Iraqi resistance with Explosive Formed Penetrators used in roadside bombs. But that claim had been proven to be was false more than 12 years ago. The "EFP from Iran" story was part of a U.S. PSYOPS campaign to explain away the real reason why it was losing the war. There were dozens of reports which proved that the EFPs were manufactured in Iraq and there never was any evidence that Iran delivered weapons or anything else to the Iraqi resistance:

Britain, whose forces have had responsibility for security in southeastern Iraq since the war began, has found nothing to support the Americans' contention that Iran is providing weapons and training in Iraq, several senior military officials said.

"I have not myself seen any evidence -- and I don't think any evidence exists -- of government-supported or instigated" armed support on Iran's part in Iraq, British Defense Secretary Des Browne said in an interview in Baghdad in late August.

Iran is not responsible for the U.S. casualties in Iraq. George W. Bush is. What made Soleimani "bad" in the eyes of the U.S. was his support for the resistance against the Zionist occupation of Palestine. It was Israel that wanted him 'removed'. The media explanations for Trump's decision fail to explain that point.

The New York Times reported yesterday that Trump picked the 'wrong' item from a list of possible courses of action that the military had presented him. That sounded like bullshit invented to take blame away from Trump and to put it onto the military.

The Washington Post reports today that the idea to kill Soleimani came from Secretary of State Pompeo:

Pompeo first spoke with Trump about killing Soleimani months ago, said a senior U.S. official, but neither the president nor Pentagon officials were willing to countenance such an operation.
[This time o]ne significant factor was the “lockstep” coordination for the operation between Pompeo and Esper, both graduates in the same class at the U.S. Military Academy, who deliberated ahead of the briefing with Trump, senior U.S. officials said. Pence also endorsed the decision, but he did not attend the meeting in Florida.

It is possible that the report is correct but it sounds more like an arranged story to blame Pompeo for the bad consequences Trump's decision will have.

During his election campaign Trump did not even know (vid) who Soleimani was. Someone indoctrinated him. The idea to assassinate Soleimani came most likely from Netanyahoo and must have been planted into Trump's head quite a while ago. Israel could have killed Soleimani several times while he was openly traveling in Syria. It shied away from doing that as it (rightly) feared the consequences. Now the U.S. will have to endure them.

The consequences continue to pile up.

The decision by the Iraqi government and parliament to kick all foreign troops out of the country leaves some flexibility in the timeline. The U.S. and other military are in Iraq under simple agreements that were exchanged between the Iraqi Foreign Ministry and the other sides. The ministry can fulfill the parliament decision by simply writing letters that declare that the agreements end next week. It could also choose to wait until the end of the year. But Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi has publicly declared that he can no longer guarantee the security of foreign troops on Iraqi ground. That makes the issue urgent and it is likely that the troops will leave rather soon.

Trump did not like the idea and threatened Iraq with sanctions:

Speaking to reporters on Air Force One, the U.S. president said: “If they do ask us to leave, if we don’t do it in a very friendly basis, we will charge them sanctions like they’ve never seen before ever. It’ll make Iranian sanctions look somewhat tame.”

“We have a very extraordinarily expensive air base that’s there. It cost billions of dollars to build. Long before my time. We’re not leaving unless they pay us back for it,” Trump said.

The president added that “If there’s any hostility, that they do anything we think is inappropriate, we are going to put sanctions on Iraq, very big sanctions on Iraq.”

There are also some 2,900 Twitter bots who try to let the parliament decision look illegitimate by tweeting "I am Iraqi and parliament doesn't represent me". It is not known if these are Saudi or U.S. bots but their behavior is inauthentic.

There is nothing Trump can do to keep the troops in Iraq. If the Iraqi government does not tell them to leave the Popular Militia Forces will attack the U.S. bases and evict the U.S. military by force. When the U.S. assassinated Soleimani and PMU leader al-Muhandis it made that step inevitable.

Yesterday Iran took a decision to exceed the number of centrifuges that are allowed to run under the JCPOA nuclear agreement which the U.S. has left. The decision had been expected and the Soleimani assassination only accelerated it. Iran took the step under §36 of the agreement which allows Iran to exceed the limits if the other sides of the JCPOA do not stick to their commitments. That means that Iran is still within the JCPOA and that the step is reversible. The IAEA will continue to have access to Iran's sites and will continue to report regularly about Iran's civil nuclear program.

The JCPOA co-signers France, the UK and Germany issued a very unhelpful statement today that puts all blame on Iran and does not even mention the U.S. assassinations of Soleimani.

Iran has not announced what kind of operation it will use to avenge the death of its national hero Qassem Soleimani. It will likely be some asymmetrical operation against the U.S. military somewhere around the globe. It will certainly be a big one.

Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah, a dear friend of Soleimani, announced yesterday that the Resistance Axis will take its own, separate  revenge.


Here are edited excerpts from Nasrallah's rather long speech (which is worth reading in full):

Today we commemorate Soleimani and al-Muhandis, two great commanders, and their Iraqi and Iranian companions who were martyred in this recent crime. The date of Soleimani's assassination is an inflection point in the history of the region, not just for Iran or Iraq. It is a new beginning.
Soleimani's assassination isn't an isolated incident. It's the beginning of new American approach to the region. The U.S. carefully weighed what move they could take to reverse all their previous failures. But this wasn't war with Iran. Trump knows war with Iran would be difficult and dangerous. So, what could they do that wouldn't lead to war with Iran? They settled on killing Qassem Soleimani, a central figure in the Resistance Axis.
Qassem Soleimani was the glue that held the Resistance Axis together, and so they decided to kill him, and to kill him openly, which would also have its psychological impact.
Our responsibility in the Resistance Axis is divided into three points.
  1. Trump's goal was to terrify us all, and subjugate us. The leadership of Resistance will not waver or back down at all. To the contrary, the martyrdom of Soleimani and Muhandis will only drive us forward.
  2. Resistance must coordinate and become closer, to strengthen itself and its capabilities, because the region is heading toward a new phase.
  3. In terms of response, we have to consider just punishment. In terms of this crime, the one who committed it is known, and must be punished.

Soleimani isn't just an Iranian matter, he is all of the Resistance Axis - Palestine, Lebanon Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and every country which has supporter and lover of Resistance. The umma. This isn't an Iranian issue alone. Iran can also respond as it pleases, but that response doesn't exempt the Resistance Axis from also responding. Iran won't ask you to do anything - to act or not to act. But Resistance Axis forces must decide how to deal with Soleimani's death.

So, if any Resistance Axis faction avenges his death, that their decision, and Iran isn't behind that. Iran won't ask anything. It's up to us how to respond. Do we content ourselves with mourning and eulogizing? We must all head towards just punishment.

What do we mean by just punishment? Some are saying this must be someone of the same level as Qassem Soleimani - like Chairman of Joint Chiefs, head of @CENTCOM, but there is no one on Soleimani or Muhandis' level. Soleimani's shoe is worth more than Trump's head, so there's no one I can point to to say this is the person we can target.

Just punishment therefore means American military presence in the region, U.S. military bases, U.S. military ships, every American officer and soldier in our countries and regions. The U.S. military is the one who killed Soleimani and Muhandis, and they will pay the price. This is the equation.

I want to be very clear, we do not mean American citizens or nationals. There are many Americans in our region. We don't mean to attack them, and it is wrong to harm them. Attacking US civilians anywhere serves Trump's interests.

The American military institution put itself in the midst of battle by carrying out the assassination.

There are those who will say I'm blowing things out of proportion. I'm not. I'm seeing it as it is. We won't accept our region, its holy places, and natural resources to be handed over to the Zionists.

If the resistance axis heads in this direction, the Americans will leave our region, humiliated, defeated, and terrified. The suicide martyrs who forced the US out of the region before remain. If our region's peoples head in this direction - when the coffins of of U.S. soldiers and officers - they arrived vertically, and will return horizontally - Trump and his admin will know they lost the region, and will lose the elections.

The response to the blood of Soleimani and Al-Muhandis must be expulsion of all U.S, forces from the region. When we accomplish this goal, the liberation of Palestine will become imminent. When US forces leave the region, these Zionists will pack their bags and leave, and might not need a battle with Israel.

General Esmail Qaani, Soleimani's replacement as commander of the Quds Brigade, endorsed Nasrallah's proposal:

Going Underground on RT @Underground_RT - 00:14 UTC · Jan 6, 2020

Esmail Qaani, the new leader of Iran's IRGC Quds Force:
"Our promise is to continue the path of martyr Soleimani. Due to the martyrdom of #Soleimani, our promise will be the expulsion of the US from the region in different steps."

These are not empty threats but a military project that will play out over the next years. I would not bet on the U.S. as the winner of that war.

There were millions of Iranians in the streets of Tehran today to mourn Qassem Soleimani. The Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei shed tears while reciting the funeral prayer (vid). As Ayatollah Khomeini once said: “They call us a nation of tears, but with these tears we overthrew an empire.”

Fereshteh Sadeghi فرشته صادقی @fresh_sadegh - 5:15 UTC · Jan 6, 2020
I was given this poster tonight by 2 young men next to a stand that offered tea and dates to motorists (dates as a sign of mourning in Iran), I want to stick it on my car’s rear window. It reads: A world will avenge you, with hashtag #crushing_response


There will be hundreds of thousands of volunteers should Iran need them to avenge Soleimani. That is why we predicted that the U.S. will come to regret its evil deed.

And while the situation can be reasonably compared to the build up to the war on Iraq I do not see a war happening. Wars are very risky as the enemy gets a vote. Any war with Iran would likely cost ten thousands of U.S. casualties. Trump is probably not stupid enough to launch such a war and certainly not during an election year.

During his campaign Trump said he wanted the U.S. military out of the Middle East. Iran and its allies will help him to keep that promise.

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@ Dan | Jan 6 2020 19:12 utc | 1

He appeared to be one of the main protagonists of an aggressive, ambitious country who has been personally responsible for lighting numerous fires in the region.

Qassem Soleimani was Iranian; he's from Iran. He was a commander in Iran's military.

From the description you posted, you seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that Major General Soleimani was "one of the main protagonists" of the United States of America.

I hope this helps to clear up your confusion.

Posted by: Ort | Jan 6 2020 22:26 utc | 101

Sasha and Joerg:

You misspelled "evilgelical"

Posted by: Lurk | Jan 6 2020 22:28 utc | 102

@Ian Dobbs and Dan

I can't quite understand how gratuitous US piracy and adventurism in places on the globe beyond the knowledge and reach of most Americans could possibly be compared to Iranian actions securing their immediate regional borders and interests. You can at least understand (even if you critique) a US preoccupation with Cuba over the years, or drug cartels in central America, or economic refugees in Mexico because they are close by and have a more less direct effect on the stability of the US. But they have no authority beyond that other than the ability to project violence and force. That's just simple imperialism. But now the US have whacked a made guy without any real reason (i.e. looking at you the wrong way is not a reason). Any mafia hood knows that, especially a New Yorker like Trump. So the climax of The Godfather comes to mind. It is staggeringly naive and frankly moronic to think that this is about good and evil. I bet Soleimani was no angel, but he wasn't whacked because he was a bad guy, but because he was extraordinarily effective military organizer. Star Wars has a lot to answer for in stunting the historical sensibilities of entire generations, but its underlying narrative is the only MSM playbook now. Even more staggering is the stupendous arrogance of the US belief in its 'rights' (based on thuggery and avarice), as though it were the only power in the world capable of establishing a moral order. The lesson in humility to come will be both long-awaited and go unheeded. Even the mob understand there has to be rules.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 6 2020 22:30 utc | 103

After reading Crooke and Federicci’s articles, there is only one way to stop this madness blowing into a global conflict. Russia and China need to get involved whether they like it or not. Diplomacy and sideline analysis has run its course. This is their time to stamp their influence in the region and finish off the empire once and for all. Maybe that way, The Europeans will grow some minerals and become sovereign again.

Otherwise, China can kiss its Belt and Road goodbye and go into a recession with the loss of their investments up to this point and become slaves to the Americans again.

And Russia, the enemy du jour of Europe and US will be next and be crushed under economic sanctions and isolation.

This is the moment that stars are aligned . Russia and China should park their battle carriers off the Gulf and gives direct warning to Israel and US that any nuclear threat , tactical or otherwise, against anyone in the region is a non-starter.

I read so much about these two countries and that they will get involved. I have recited those lines myself. But after these events and how things are escalating, I cannot see how they cannot be involved. US is its most vulnerable and weakest with respect to economic, diplomatic and military conditions.

The time of condemnations, letters of objection to the UN and veto votes in UNSC is over. There is only one way to deal with a rogue nation and that is by force.

Posted by: Alpi | Jan 6 2020 22:32 utc | 104

What I wonder is why none of the well informed baflies here do not mention that US Army war games have proven time ago that any war on Iran would mean that the US lose...and even more than its influence in the ME.

Anyway, even not playing war games, one wonders, seeing the millions of Iranis who have come into the streets to mourn and walk along Soleimani in his last walk, what even a force of 100.000 US marines could do against a nation of 80 millions in their own terrain plus the sens of martyrdom innate....

All those troops would need time to "relocate", and during that time Iran would not at arms crossing, but would eliminate all the oil sources to move that number of troops and even the aircrafts and helycopters would be destroyed. Al Udeid would dissapear from the face of Earth with all the material and people... and probably the intrigant Al-Thani "dinasty" too.

Better do not try as Scott Ritterr advices...

Posted by: Sasha | Jan 6 2020 22:34 utc | 105

I learned from Mike Pryzsner ( produces Empire Files with Abby Martin/Veteran) on the Jimmy Dore Show that it is possible for military personal to fill out a conscientious objectors form and if submitted they cannot deploy you. Perhaps if anyone here knows of anyone in the US military they can give them this info or spread it on your social media.

Considering going AWOL, becoming a conscientious objector, or withdrawing your consent in some other way--GI Rights Hotline is run by civilians, offers free, confidential counseling & info.


Posted by: Stever | Jan 6 2020 22:35 utc | 106

@ Veritas X- | Jan 6 2020 22:25 utc | 100

But they (these "ignoramuses") are warriors. Information warriors. Paid for by our tax money. And not fighting on our side.

Posted by: Lurk | Jan 6 2020 22:36 utc | 107

To the silly trolls on this thread, no Iran is not the number one terrorist supporter in the world. That would be Saudi Arabia, closely followed by Qatar. You know them don't you? Murica's main regional allies. The same countries that have armed and funded terrorists to over throw the Syrian state. The same terrorist groups given support by the murican intelligence community and propaganda outlets like the White helmets. The US is not a knight in shining armor. It is a vulgar, grasping, dying empire that will use any means at it's disposal to harm perceived rivals. The US establishment has a long history of using terrorists to further its goals, like in Afghanistan during the 80's, or in Chechnya...and of course in Syria. The list is not exhaustive... You know, in fact, Iran should look to execute the cult leader of the Mek. There is another bizzaro terrorist outfit beloved by fat ass Pompeo. That would be an outstanding shatter point that the US couldn't even respond to. Let him "suicide" himself like Le!

Posted by: nemo | Jan 6 2020 22:43 utc | 108

This is one of the main guys responsible for Middle East strife over a 40 year period.

Posted by: Dan | Jan 6 2020 21:24 utc | 57

Iran has basically been trying to mind its business while the US continually meddled in the ME, also via its proxy (or boss), Israel. You confuse reaction and action.
Anyhow, why stop at 40 years? History didn't start in 1979, although perhaps baby boomers such as Clinton and Bush thought that it did.
Go back to 1953, then the UK and US are the ones responsible for all the strife in Iran since then.
Or, go back to 1947. Then the USA and the Zionists are responsible for all the strife in the ME.
Or, go back to 1917 and the UK and Churchill and Rothschilds are responsible for all of the strife in the ME.

Posted by: Really?? | Jan 6 2020 22:45 utc | 109

Let me add this:
The killing of Suleimani was definitely meant as a warning AGAINST RIYADH!
By the way - here a nice cartoon:

Posted by: Joerg | Jan 6 2020 22:46 utc | 110

The three most important things for doing battle are logistics, logistics and logistics, and as Pat lang explains, the US forces in Syria are essentially fucked:

We have around 5,500 people there now spread across the country in little groups engaged in logistics, intelligence and training missions. They are extremely vulnerable. There are something like 150 marines in the embassy. There are also a small number of US combat forces in Syria east and north of the Euphrates river. These include a battalion of US Army National Guard mechanized troops "guarding" Syria's oil from Syria's own army and whatever devilment the Iranians might be able to arrange.

4. This is an untenable logistical situation. Supply and other functions require a major airfield close to Baghdad. We have Balad airbase and helicopter supply and air support from there into Baghdad is possible from there but may become hazardous. Iraq is a big country. It is a long and lonely drive from Kuwait for re-supply from there or evacuation through there. The same thing is true of the desert route to Jordan.

Unless it reinvades and reoccupies, the United States will be gone from Syria, probably just after the election in November so Trump can say he stood up to the Iraqis.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Jan 6 2020 22:48 utc | 111

For the public version of the CIA reasoning, David Petraeus discusses the situation in Foreign Policy.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 6 2020 22:48 utc | 112

@ Phryne's frock #9
I always make sure to read comments (on any website I find myself on) brcause that gives a pulse of what the people think. On this thread your comment struck me the most, because I too have grieved these past few days. I couldn't at first believe when I first read the news late Thursday night that Soleimani was gone. He was bigger than life, and the only reason I know of him is because I closely follow the war of independence currently happening in Syria, specifically when word had it that h had been badly injured and other instances when he was killed. All lies, as usual by the 'usual suspects'.
I have been so taken aback by the news that I too spent my last 3 days respecting the call for mourning. I didn't drink, I didn't smoje and I even went to my local Orthodox church on Sunday morning and lit 2 candles, one for Soleimani and the other for Muhandis. I also said a prayer, something completely out of my norm as I haven't set foot inside a church in decades. It has affected us all, that's to be sure.
Nonetheless, fear not dear woman, for you too are part of the resistance. We are all doing our part, regardless of how helpless we may feel. The mere fact that we are on sites such as these and we learn, speak amd spread ideas of truth... and since we don't swallow the dirt thrown at us by the enemies of humanity it is (tho it may feel like little) an honorable deed as we are showing those truly evil that we are resist.

Posted by: Forward | Jan 6 2020 22:56 utc | 113

In their descriptions of Qassem Soleimani U.S. media fail to mention that Soleimani and the U.S. fought on the same side. In 2001 Iran supported the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan.

So what? Israel provided weapons to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. All allies/common interests are temporary.

Posted by: CognativeDissonance | Jan 6 2020 22:59 utc | 114

Joerg @99

Your rant has some problems.

I believe that Trump didn't' know anything about Suleimani ...

Trump informed his son Eric of his decision beforehand. Eric Trump bragged about what was about to happen. Why would do so for a decision that his father was forced to make or made by mistake?

Plus, it has been widely reported that Trump made the decision and Trump hasn't tried to walk back that decision in any way. Instead he has defended the attack and responded with more belligerence.

Suleimani was on a diplomatic mission and was on his way to meet in Baghdad with a Saudi-Arabian diplomat ...


Iraqi PM Mahdi has said that he was going to meet Suleimani the next day and that Suleimani was going to give a response to a recent Saudi peace proposal. I haven't seen any reports of a plans for a Suleimani-Saudi meeting.

And if the talks ... had been successful ... Israel (also the US) would have lost it's ally Saudi-Arabia

While that outcome is possible, we can not expect that it would be likely.

Saudi-Arabia is now isolated ...

No, they're not. They have diplomatic relations with Russia, China, and many others. They could chart an independent path by revealing their negotiations with Iran and decrying the killing of Suleimani who was involved with those negotiations.

They might then be able to reach a peace deal with Iran ... if that's what they had really intended to do (I'm very skeptical).

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Here's what I think:

Trump and his anti-Iran neocon advisors wanted to attack Iran 1) after the Iranians downed a US spy drone, and then again 2) after the Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia in September 2019. But the Saudis didn't want their oil infrastructure to be destroyed by Iranian missiles so Trump & Co. had to find a different way.

Saudis conveniently initiated a behind-the-scenes peace effort in October despite years of belligerence against Iran. Why? Perhaps to buy time (forestall further Houthi attacks) and perhaps to pretend innocence when USA did ultimately attack Iran (they know how serious US-Israel intentions are). In December, mysterious mortar attacks against US facilities in Iraq began, culminating in the attack that killed a US contractor. Information about that attack is still murky (why?) - we still don't even know the name of the US contractor that was killed - but USA decided to mount a severe (and illegal) attack against PMU in retaliation.

We know what followed thereafter.

Protestations that Trump and/or Saudi Arabia are innocent are laughable. Trump has proven his anti-peace intentions via his interactions with North Korea, Venezeula, Syria, Yemen, Russia, Iran, Palestinians, etc. And whether the Saudis are in the US-Israeli sphere by choice or coercion is inconsequential. They are co-conspirators in the proxy war on Syria and in the conflict with Iran.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 6 2020 23:06 utc | 115

The WaPo cites in its articel about the operation to get rid of Soleimani, that when Pompeo phoned every European leader to get support thet responses were not all the supportive he would have expected...The word they use is that it was a cilly response...

If that was the response of our blackmailed and liberal leaders, imagine what is the mood in the streets...the reality is that WE ALL want to get rid of the US troops, not only the Iraqis...just we are envy...and expect that one day, better sooner than later, all the US troops leave from Europe to their home in Oregon or wherever...and mind their business out of our lands and stop pissing us off...

The sad reality, for the US and its citizens who enjoy all the looting througout all these decades, is that what the assasination of Soleimani has uncovered is not the rage in the ME about the US plots to undermine the development and progress of their societies, but in the whole world..,where we suffer the same...since ages...

I hope this is the starting point of a global movement against US meddling and looting everywherevv.

Posted by: Sasha | Jan 6 2020 23:07 utc | 116

@92, i don't know how that would play out. hope to avoid finding out. remember when those tanks refused to fire on yeltsin, too. first, a general strike. the 99% has gotten the attention of elites before, in the early 30's with the bonus army, in the late 1800's with the original progressive revolt, maybe in 1828 i'm not sure about jackson. a significant percentage got their attention in watts and other cities in the 60's, and with anti vietnamese war marches. but the elites in those days, while every bit as corrupt, seemed to have more sense than the elites today.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 6 2020 23:10 utc | 117

Now that the US is backing away from the General's letter, the US will be driven out by a million cuts. A blooodier version of the exit from Vietnam. Neither the Iraqi nor Iranian gov'ts need to do much, as endless IEDs and small hit-and-run attacks by locals will make the ZATO troops think twice about venturing far from their fortifications. The General will be sending a lot of "we regret to inform you" letters to US families, instead of the one recognizing Iraq's right to tell the US/ZATO to GET OUT.

Doesn't Trump realize the irony of sending B-52s to park at Diego Garcia? Where the UK has been told to hand the islands back to the rightful owners? Maybe to provide cover to get MH370 parked somewhere else...

Posted by: A P | Jan 6 2020 23:15 utc | 118

1. around 9pm gmt, report that US commander says they are redeploying forces ready to withdraw.
2) shortly after Pompeo says no withdrawal.
3) 10 pm BBC report a lot of US helicopter movement over Baghdad

What is happening? Was the letter just a ruse to cover the US flying in more troops to try and seize the Iraqi capital?
Text of the general's letter specifically says that there will be helicopters including strike ones over the city. If they are not withdrawing, what is it for.

Posted by: Paul Cockshott | Jan 6 2020 23:15 utc | 119

Summary from David Petraeus (DP):

Foreign Policy (FP): What will Iran do to retaliate?

DP: Right now they are probably doing what anyone does in this situation: considering the menu of options. There could be actions in the gulf, in the Strait of Hormuz by proxies in the regional countries, and in other continents where the Quds Force have activities. There’s a very considerable number of potential responses by Iran, and then there’s any number of potential U.S. responses to those actions

Given the state of their economy, I think they have to be very leery, very concerned that that could actually result in the first real challenge to the regime certainly since the Iran-Iraq War.

FP: Will the Iraqi government kick the U.S. military out of Iraq?

DP: The prime minister has said that he would put forward legislation to do that, although I don’t think that the majority of Iraqi leaders want to see that given that ISIS is still a significant threat. They are keenly aware that it was not the Iranian supported militias that defeated the Islamic State, it was U.S.-enabled Iraqi armed forces and special forces that really fought the decisive battles.

How credible is this line that Iran has a tottering economy and that the 'regime' is clinging to power by a thread and so therefore cannot risk the further instability of a war?

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 6 2020 23:19 utc | 120

Correction on 105

Pieraccini not Federicci.

Posted by: Alpi | Jan 6 2020 23:20 utc | 121

Continuing from @116

Seymour Hirsh wrote about Israel, Saudi Arabia, and USA conspiracy against Iran and Syria in 2007: The Redirection.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 6 2020 23:21 utc | 122

@Posted by: Paul Cockshott | Jan 6 2020 23:15 utc | 120

Expect any kind of triquiñuelas from this far the most treacherous/despicale ganag the world has seen at the helms of a country...

That they are rebuilding their defenses was obvius by the nocturnity they were asking for and the allusion to that there will be many helicopters...Blanco y en botella, leche...

I hope the PMU sleep with an eye opened...or with both....

Posted by: Sasha | Jan 6 2020 23:22 utc | 123

Patroklos @121,

Well, this much is bullshit at least:

They are keenly aware that it was not the Iranian supported militias that defeated the Islamic State, it was U.S.-enabled Iraqi armed forces and special forces that really fought the decisive battles.

Foreign Policy needs to read b on Tikrit.

Posted by: WJ | Jan 6 2020 23:23 utc | 124

Paul Cockshott @120

That's possible.

Also: I noted a few days ago that Turkey's recent deploying of troops to Libya might mask a mobilization that is greater than what is needed in Libya - troops that could be used in Syria and Iraq.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 6 2020 23:25 utc | 125

On the previous thread, jared | Jan 6 2020 12:32 utc | 230, posted:
"Iran is already proclaiming it will proceed with unconstrained uranium enrichment - a act which is both pointless and counter productive."

A huge amount of Iran's nuclear waste from the years of enriching uranium has been used to create depleted uranium warheads such as the U.S. uses on its Hellfire and other missiles. These are typically one-ton warheads, about 99% uranium, and ignite on contact (uranium is pyrophoric -- it burns) and burn at up to 6,000°C. They can penetrate a good thirty meters of prestressed concrete in less than a second and incinerate everything in the vicinity.

The (depleted) uranium anti-tank rounds used in the 1991 war against Iraq were five kilograms (11 pounds) and could zip through two or three tanks. When the Americans went inside the tanks later on, they found the Iraqis' bodies turned to black dust. Occasionally, the bodies were intact, in position, but they crumbled to dust when touched. The American troops called them "crispy critters".

ALL the American military who entered those tanks or worked on them afterward became sick with all sorts of horrible illnesses triggered by radiation poisoning.

The one ton of uranium in a bunker buster results in one ton of powder, much of it microscopic. Inhaled, a single microscopic particle of 2.5 microns deposited in an alveol cavity of the lung contains come 210 billion uranium atoms. Uranium spits out alpha particles, which don't travel far (an inch at most, usually), but they are the most powerful force in our universe. That single particle irradiates, permanently, a sphere of up to 350 lung cells.

The military in Iraq were inhaling millions (billions!) of those particles. Those who haven't died yet are deathly ill.

Israel's anti-missile defenses are not what they are claimed to be. Just a few of those bunker busters delivered into Tel Aviv or West Jerusalem would contaminate it permanently.

Israel cannot afford the loss of such territory. (In the United States, the Jefferson Proving Ground where most of the testing was done, was offered to the National Park Service as a wild-life refuge to be off limits in order to protect its biodiversity. The offer was turned down. The site is now off limits, designated a national sacrifice zone...) And Iran has the missiles with the accuracy necessary to make such hits.

Thus, every suspected Iranian missile storage location must be hit simultaneously. Israel does not have the means to do that, hence the need to involve in United States in an all-out colossal attack. This was openly discussed under the George Walker Bush administration until the National Intelligence Estimate of December 2007 pulled the rung out from under the warmongers by openly declaring that Iran had no nuclear program.

Israel used such missiles on south Lebanon in August 2006, so, they know all about this. The bombing of south Lebanon stopped the day that the south-north wind reversed direction. The United Nations Environment Program that investigated the missile craters in south Lebanon found low enriched uranium, the result of mixing the depleted uranium with the enriched uranium from decommissioned Soviet missiles removed from Ukraine, in a failed attempt to restore the original isotopic ratio and make it pass for "natural" uranium that, if discovered, could then be claimed to have been in the ground and turned up by the bombing.

The entire assault on mountains and caves of Tora Bora in southeast Afghanistan in 2001-2002 was a bunker buster testing program. Canadian researchers found uranium-induced radioactivity all over, but they were silenced by death threats and some roughing up.

So, Iran does not need a nuclear arsenal, for it has developed an equally good deterrent on the cheap. Israel knows this, the various intelligence services know this, some people in the corporate media know this, but if one mentions it, one is immediately told that there is "no proof".

Posted by: RJPJR | Jan 6 2020 23:29 utc | 126

Posted by: WJ | Jan 6 2020 23:23 utc | 125

Yeah that was clearly for the MSM. Soleimani was the architect of the defeat of Islamic state, another reason to whack him I guess. But the line being pushed that I'm less sure of is the one that runs: "The Iranian government is a regime that oppresses its own people and resistance movements are strengthened by sanctions designed not to hurt the people but to weaken the regime... blah blah blah." While the form of that argument is pap, the reality is less clear. Have the sanctions weakened Iran's ability to resist a full-tilt air assault, and do Khamenei and the leadership there fear internal instability? Is there a real Iranian opposition or is it a CIA-minted colour revolutionary 5th column?

Posted by: Patroklos | Jan 6 2020 23:33 utc | 127

The question of whether the US withdraws its forces from Iraq is one that it is in no position to decide: they depend upon the Iraqis to defend them. And it is almost certain that there are not enough Iraqis to defend them left, not now that ISIS has moved on.

In other words the question is not whether the US will withdraw but whether it will re-invade. If 250,000 troops were needed in 2003 the likelihood is that now, after Iraqis have their measure, it will take twice as many. And such troops simply do not exist.

So the real question is when are the US forces leaving? Will they wait for the year's notice to expire? It would be dangerous to do so.
The calculations are so simple to make that it is troubling: if the US and its Israeli base/ally/boss are intent on escalating the aggression there is only one-nuclear-way to go.

It is sincerely to be hoped that Russia and China and perhaps even the NATO countries are making it very clear that nuclear war will inevitably follow any nuclear attack by the US or its agents.
This might be a good time for Americans to examine the meaning of the Samson Option, to which Netanyahu is committed. Do they realise that the United States (and its allies) are signed up to it too?

Posted by: bevin | Jan 6 2020 23:35 utc | 128

@Posted by: WJ | Jan 6 2020 23:23 utc | 125

Well, David Petraeus does not seem the most reliable person in this world.
If you take into account that he supported all the lies of his admnistration to unlseashed Iraqi invasion and alleged WOT when what it was the remodelation of rge ME and looting of its resources. And I fear he made his fortune vand caree in looting and lying...

Posted by: Sasha | Jan 6 2020 23:35 utc | 129

@CognativeDissonance (115)

"So what? Israel provided weapons to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. All allies/common interests are temporary."

So what indeed! So what are the Americans complaining about -- "all allies/common interests are temporary".
A bit of cognitive lapse?

Posted by: bjd | Jan 6 2020 23:38 utc | 130

As long as posters respond to the two dingbats they are happy no matter what you write as their purpose is diversion and dissension. The flaws in their posts are obvious so no more need be said.

Posted by: A User | Jan 7 2020 0:00 utc | 131

Paul Craig Roberts.
Really worth a read

Posted by: Emily | Jan 7 2020 0:02 utc | 132

@74. I agree the money behind the scenes is the real enemy. The front men are mere managers.

I would add that destroying the PROPERTIES of the backers is a legitimate thing to do. They destroy the beauty of the people's public properties. That would take them down without violence which always backfires.

Posted by: Linda Amick | Jan 7 2020 0:17 utc | 133

@120 They are probably flying non-military staff out. NGO's, teachers etc. There won't be much for them to do now anyway.

Posted by: dh | Jan 7 2020 0:17 utc | 134

@dh (135)

If anything, they are flying Israeli out. Under the cover of darkness.

Posted by: bjd | Jan 7 2020 0:21 utc | 135


I’m kinda glad that Bernhard doesn’t ban trolls here. I’m interested in what they have to say, as well as how they it. But what would interest me most is finding out who is paying them to post Zionist propaganda, disinformation, and outright lies. I’d like to think that one day in the not-so-distant future block chain technology will enable me to find out this sort of information. In the meantime, though, I can only scratch my head and guess. Full transparency at the touch of your finger isn’t quite here yet, but when it is, it will be a definite game-changer in a very good way, IMO.

Posted by: Cynthia | Jan 7 2020 0:27 utc | 136

Twitter vid of Orthodox service for Soleimani correlates his Mission with that Of Jesus's Mission. An amazing and truthful one minute thank you from the Christians of Syria for his efforts:

"'All what Qassem Soleimani did was stand up for Christians against ISIS and Al Qaeda'

"A mass was held in the evangelical church of Aleppo, Syria to honor the martyrdom of General Soleimani who had an essential role in the liberation battle of Aleppo against US-backed Jihadists."

Compared to Soleimani, Trump is the town drunk lying in the gutter awaiting the police van to take him to the drunk tank.

Several barflies have said it's beyond time for China and Russia to arise and collectively put a stop to this madness. As reported today, China will likely delay the implementation of the first phase of the Trade Deal and a high level delegation met with Iraq's president and council today to discuss arms and economic assistance. Russia's already involved with Iraq through the regional anti-terrorist command post in Baghdad. Putin's been very quiet; not even the usual notice of condolences sent to Iran was noted or published by the Kremlin. Tomorrow's Orthodox Christmas, so perhaps in Putin's message to Russia he'll say something further. But you can be sure that behind the scenes much is happening.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 7 2020 0:32 utc | 137

I haven't yet read comments, but I have to say that I, like Trump, did not know of Qasim Suleimani's accomplishments until after his tragic death. But I cannot imagine how those who were familiar with the field of battle against the terrorists could have presented this to Trump as an option without warning him against the folly of it, let alone the injustice.

A while before the New Year I mentioned here that I had two books to read. One was "The Chamber" by John Grisham, dealing in depth with the injustice of capital punishment. I finished that one, and had just begun the second one when this tragedy occurrred. The second is "The Places In Between" by Rory Stewart - about the author's trek across Afghanistan in 2002.

It may only be of interest to myself, but early into the book there is a chapter relating the centuries earlier travels of Babur, the first Mughal Emperor of India, which route the author is following. Taking it up again last night I was struck that the companion of Babur is named Qasim - here is the passage describing him :

"...Babur is tolerant and kind to his friends, but tough, ambitious, and hard on himself. His admiration for courage, religiosity, and intelligence is implicit in even the shortest passage of his diaries. This is his description of his older companion called Qasim, "the Divider," with whom he crossed Afghanistan:

"He had distinguished himself by his gallant use of his scimitar. He was a pious, religious, faithful Muslim and carefully abstained from all doubtful meats. His judgments and talents were uncommonly good. He wasfacetious. He could neither read nor write but he had an ingenious and elegant turn of wit..."

I'm sure Qasim Suleimani could both read and write, but the rest of the description, the more I read of him, seems to fit. Not only Iran lost a heroic figure; the world did as well.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 7 2020 0:39 utc | 139

Re PCR's latest linked article (post 133.
What PCR is insisting Putin do ("The easiest and cleanest way for Putin to do this is to announce that Iran is under Russia’s protection.")Putin has already done so in a landmark speech last year when he unveiled five or six game-changing weapons, or was it 2018.
He declared back then to the evil empire that a nuclear attack on an ally would be considered an attack upon Russia. He made this crystal clear. Of course it wouldn't hurt for him to 'gently' remind them of this.

Posted by: grr | Jan 7 2020 0:43 utc | 140

You can read Lavrov's Press Releases here: Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation.

Posted by: bjd | Jan 7 2020 0:47 utc | 141


Iran was definitely involved in organizing, supplying, and even to some extent arming(with small arms) various Iraqi militias. But the best way we know that it wasn't directly involved in attacking US patrols, was that so few soldiers died. Iran has no need to improvise explosive devices, it manufactures landmines on a mass scale which are much more reliable and orders of magnitude more deadly, and operationally easier to use.

Most of the resistance to the US occupation in the Shia regions of Iraq were in the form of non violent demonstrations spearheaded by Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani(who btw is also Iranian). The nonviolent demonstrators were routinely massacred for their trouble, by both the takfiri resistance and the occupation troops, but eventually succeeded in their demands for a democratic vote wherein they elected a government that demanded the US leave. And as Michael Flynn relates in his interview with Mehdi Hassan, once kicked out, the Obama Administration took steps that they knew would lead to the creation of ISIS in the region, and fired him as the head of the DIA after he had written them a memo warning them about this.

Michael Flynn, who btw is rabidly anti Iranian, then became the first victim of the Russiagaters when Trump was elected into office.

Posted by: masoud | Jan 7 2020 0:50 utc | 142

Perhaps it's too early but I have not seen much discussion about the incredible about face regarding the ["draft"] letter to withdraw from Iraq. It had been turned over, it was hardly a "rough draft for talking points," it must have had the general's approval to provide it to Iraq, and a very short period of time elapsed before it was officially a "mistake to have turned over." It hit the press and someone made a phone call. POTUS has never controlled everything or even anything close to what it is made to appear POTUS controls. This particular POTUS controls less than that. The order to kill came from FDD and Goldberg was fired shortly thereafter but not until it was obvious the strike has snapped back in Trump's face. Three attempts at making a deal with Iran after the strike were rebuffed. Then Trump issued his "52 targets" threat. Then the letter was awkwardly walked back. Trump had election 2020 in the bag until this massive gaffe. He can't even get a back slap from NATO. Word on the ground in Iraq tends to indicate preparations for withdrawal. Embarrassing as it is, there's still a lot of time between now and October. The red flag over the mosque is ominous and the overnight solidarity of Shia factions even more so.
Who picked up the phone and said, "No, we are not leaving Iraq, end of discussion"...? It was somebody that was not consulted when the effort to offer to withdraw was made. It could have been Marcus, Adelson, the FDD, CFR, the Rothschilds...or the Senate majority leader. I'm sure the barflies will have some fantastic analysis on this, especially after the two drink minimum we all need to get over recent events. Regards to all.

Posted by: Bruce | Jan 7 2020 0:50 utc | 143

That they are rebuilding their defenses was obvius by the nocturnity they were asking for ...

Posted by: Sasha | Jan 6 2020 23:22 utc | 124

I too found this very strange.
"We will use the cover of night to avoid exciting any suspicions . . ."

IOW, no one will have to get needlessly upset by seeing American military loading their gear into copters and flying away and thinking they might actually be *arriving* in Baghdad instead *leaving.*
How dumb do they think people are?
This is the kindergarten version of planning a psy-op for the same day that military "games" are planned.
Of course they are trying to create a rationale for maneuverings under cover of nightfall instead of in the daytime when anyone cn see what they are up to.
Sounds like a clever ruse of a ten-year-old to fool his grandma.
In fact, I came up with something similar when I was seven.

I lived with my ogreish aunt and uncle and they made me take a nap in the afternoon. I preferred to use the time to draw, but didn't want to be caught drawing instead of sleeping when they suddenly opened the door at the end of my "nap." So I told them I was *particularly* tired and please do *not* come and wake me up.
It worked!!!
Pretty good for a seven-year-old.

But I do expect something ab it more sophisticated from our well-remunerated military tacticians.

Posted by: Really?? | Jan 7 2020 0:53 utc | 144

@19 David G

I agree, David, it looks as though the NYT is giving an out to Defense.

I don't know why b wouldn't catch that. Maybe he misunderstood the english syntax there.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 7 2020 0:56 utc | 145

I do have to say, the silence from the Russians is odd. Even when you read the Russian Foreign Ministry's news releases.

For instance, there's this on January 4th:
"On January 4, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov had a telephone conversation with Foreign Minister of the Islamic Republic of Iran Mohammad Javad Zarif, at the latter’s initiative." (italics mine).

So Lavrov talked to an Iranian official only on January 4th, and the call came from Iran (Zarif), not the other way around. This is odd, and even the explicit
mentioning of Zarif initiating the call --to me-- seems odd.

Posted by: bjd | Jan 7 2020 0:58 utc | 146

Breaking News!!!!

A major American cultural site has been hit in retaliation for Trump's tweet threatening the bombing of 52 culturally significant sites in Iran.

The loss of this beloved American cultural institution is horrific.

Can #Trump protect his own most valuable cultural sites?

Posted by: ak74 | Jan 7 2020 1:06 utc | 147

@Posted by: Bruce | Jan 7 2020 0:50 utc | 144

What do you refer by FDD?

Apart from those you mention, what about Kushner, Netanyahu´s agent in Oval Office?

Or what about the siamesian creature Esper-Pompeo? It seems Pompeo was bomabrding he Donald since months ago on Soleimani...One sees the face of Pompeo when graduating and WP and you immediately feel a chill in your spine...There it is a guy who will not stop at anything so as to go up...

Of course, I do not discard a master puppet behind him...but I would look for more in Herzliya of whatever the name is...I doubt the Rothschilds are beihn Pompeo, otherwise he would not look so ambitious, he already would show so calm and confident like Macron...

Posted by: Sasha | Jan 7 2020 1:07 utc | 148

Yes, it's Ben Norton and the Gray Zone providing more in-depth info about the peace mission Soleimani was conducting. Don't miss the NY Times extract provided at the linked tweet:

"Iraq's efforts at brokering peace talks between Saudi Arabia and Iran were going very smoothly... until the US empire blew it all to pieces by murdering a top Iranian general and Iraqi commander."

Very clearly to me at least, Iran's Hope proposal was beginning to be acted upon, and as I wrote two days ago, that couldn't be allowed to stand. Thus, how Iran responds is further complicated by the initial success of their initiative--provided the Saudi position was genuine and not a feint. Recall the HOPE proposal allowed for outside participation which back in September I wrote it would be wise for Trump to applaud and promote--IF--he genuinely desired Peace. Now the equation's been changed. The goal is now to completely oust the Evil Outlaw US Empire from the region, but that can still be accomplished through the HOPE proposal.

Now Zarif's been barred by the usual shitheads from attending the UNSC. IMO, the UNGA must reconsider Russia's request to relocate numerous UN activities as the Evil Outlaw US Empire has effectively ceded its position within the UN and clearly doesn't belong there.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 7 2020 1:09 utc | 149

juliana @ 140

The second is "The Places In Between" by Rory Stewart - about the author's trek across Afghanistan in 2002.

I saw a TV series that Stewart did. He really knows his stuff.

The problem is he is so deep in the Establishment I do not trust him at all. From the Wikipedia page on him:

Stewart's father, born in Edinburgh, Scotland, was a colonial official and diplomat who, in the 1970s, was a candidate to become the director of the UK's Secret Intelligence Service or MI6.

His father's family is from Broich House (built in 1770), which is near Crieff in Perth and Kinross, Scotland.[6] His maternal grandfather was Jewish.[7] He was brought up in Malaysia and in Scotland and educated at the Dragon School in Oxford, and at Eton College.[8]

As a teenager, he was a member of the Labour Party[9]...During his gap year in 1991, he was commissioned (a short service limited commission) in the Black Watch...He then attended Balliol College, Oxford University, where he read modern history for one year, before switching to philosophy, politics and economics.[8] While a student at Oxford, Stewart was a private tutor to Prince William and Prince Harry during the summer.[13]...

After the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Stewart became the Coalition Provisional Authority Deputy Governorate Co-ordinator in Maysan and Deputy Governorate Co-ordinator/Senior Advisor in Dhi Qar in 2003...

This guy comes from an intel family and has had his ticket punched at the highest levels(Oxford, Black Watch, tutor to the royal family). At various times, he has been in the Labor Party, a Conservative MP, and now an Independent.

This guy is as slippery as they come.

But he is really smart and writes and speaks well.

I just don't trust him at all.

Posted by: john brewster | Jan 7 2020 1:10 utc | 150

If I were neocon psyop troll I would be promoting violent rhetoric of how Iran plans to make nukes and punish the west with violent acts of terrorism. Thus justifying the war preparations and undercutting those who would work for peace.

Posted by: jared | Jan 7 2020 1:20 utc | 151

Zarif is blocked from addressing the UN Security Council.
The level of lawless, petty, childish, infantile, imbecile behaviour is breathtaking.

Posted by: bjd | Jan 7 2020 1:28 utc | 152

Cemi | Jan 6 2020 22:15 utc | 97: "The point is: Trump is loose cannon. We can analyse back and forth but no-one knows what the narcissistic jackass decides next."

Shame on you for using such language with regard to the current President of the United States of America!

It is an outrageous insult to jackasses!

Posted by: RJPJR | Jan 7 2020 1:31 utc | 153

Why waiting for Putin?

Gerasimov almost never defrauds..

Ya vienen los Reyes Magos.... con el aguinaldo...

Russian high general repudiates US terrorism against Soleimani

Posted by: Sasha | Jan 7 2020 1:39 utc | 154

Sasha @ 149:
"Fact is that Trump is following the plan of the Foundation of the Defense of Democracy (FDD) which was originally founded as EMET (Hebrew for "truth"), "to provide education to enhance Israel’s image in North America." Undercover video from Al Jazeerah caught the Israeli ex-intel official Sima Vakhnin-Gil in 2017 saying "We have FDD" when she was asked how Israel lobbies for its interests.

Dan Cohen @dancohen3000 - 5:23 UTC · Jan 4, 2020
FDD is an Israeli government front group. Trump mega donor Bernard “Iran is the devil” Marcus pays 1/3 of its budget. FDD advisor Richard Goldberg was appointed to National Security Council to push for attacking Iran. FDD continued to pay his salary.
FDD was tasked by Israel to instigate a U.S. war on Iran. Following FDD's plans Trump and his advisors are trying to provoke Iran to retaliate in a way that allows them to launch such a war."
What I am suggesting is that given nobody in the history of the US military has ever handed over a draft letter with a general's signature block to a third party unless the person handing it over is 100% certain that general wants it handed over. They just do not cowboy at that level in the military. So as far as that general was concerned, this was the direction in which they were heading, perhaps barring certain details (and of course those details can include stalling in entirety for eternity). It hit the news. A couple hours elapsed and there were serious rituals invoked for the walking back of the letter, to the point of saying it was real but a draft and should not have been sent and apart from that what we are actually doing is 180 degrees inapposite of what the letter says. That's not the result of miscommunication or oversight. Somebody put the kibosh on the entire concept of pulling out (and yes, information from the ground tends to indicate they're still busy getting out before mortars begin to go off). Who would have been both (A) out of the loop regarding the intention to communicate what was in the letter AND (B) had the stroke to say "not so fast" AND (C) does not want US troops pulling out of Iraq? Mitch McConnell?

Posted by: Bruce | Jan 7 2020 1:48 utc | 155

b has suggested that we read the full speech of Hassan Nasrullah. I couldn't access that at his link, so remembered seeing it at Saker's site. I am not good at providing links, so suggest going there and scrolling down the front page - it is there. It is very worthwhile to take the time to read this. It is not just Iran reeling from this blow, nor even Iran and Iraq both. b is correct; this is massive. Much to ponder. (First comment there is an eloquent one from Grieved.)

Posted by: juliania | Jan 7 2020 2:00 utc | 156

ID @ 45 said;"The time of condemnations, letters of objection to the UN and veto votes in UNSC is over. There is only one way to deal with a rogue nation and that is by force."

Agreed, but, don't hold yur' breath.

The "economic terrorism" the empire could roll out, IMO, will keep the world at bay.

$ uber alles, STILL, rules the globe.

We'll all see...

Posted by: ben | Jan 7 2020 2:00 utc | 157

juliana @ 140

The more I dig about Stewart the more he sounds like a cross between Rudyard Kipling and one of his (Kipling's) secret agents. He constantly showed up right after some awful miniwar to "hand out aid and restore government". (In order: East Timor, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq.)

He served in the British embassy in Indonesia from 1997 to 1999, working on issues related to East Timor independence, and was appointed at the age of 26 as the British Representative to Montenegro in the wake of the Kosovo campaign.[13]

- Wikipedia

While he still likes living rough (delivering his own child at home) in Cumbria (a sparsely populated rural county in Northern England), he has been in UK government for almost 10 years. And, he has climbed very far up the tree of British politics - fifth in the Conservative party - and is now aiming at being Mayor of London.

He was elected to the House of Commons the following year, and was later elected as chair of the Defence Select Committee. In 2015, he was appointed to the Cameron Government as minister for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs. From 2016 to 2019, Stewart served in the May Government as international development minister, Africa minister, and prisons minister.[3] In 2019, he was promoted to the cabinet as international development secretary. Stewart stood as a candidate for leader of the Conservative Party in the 2019 leadership contest, finishing fifth.

On 3 October 2019, Stewart announced he had resigned from the Conservative Party and that he would stand down as an MP at the next general election.[4] He intends to stand as an independent candidate in the 2020 London mayoral election.

Stewart lives in Dufton in Cumbria.[171] He is a member of the Athenaeum Club and the Special Forces Club.[172]

When I put the British version of his "aww, shucks" demeanor together with his political success and his very down-played military connections, it just sets off every Establishment/Deep State alarm bell I have.

Posted by: john brewster | Jan 7 2020 2:02 utc | 158

@ Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 7 2020 0:32 utc | 138 with the belief that China will back out of the trade deal by the 15th....

I can't find a source for that, please and thanks

and karlof1 at #50 with the claim
"........Now Zarif's been barred by the usual shitheads from attending the UNSC. IMO, the UNGA must reconsider Russia's request to relocate numerous UN activities

When/what Russia request to relocate parts of UN? How come you know so much?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 7 2020 2:08 utc | 159

karlof1 @150: Iran's Hope proposal was beginning to be acted upon

I don't think we know enough to say that with any certainty.

As you note, it's questionable whether USA or Saudis have any real intention to see peace:

... provided the Saudi position was genuine and not a feint.

... --IF-- he [Trump] genuinely desired Peace.

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See more in my comment @116.

IMO it is foolish not to be skeptical of both Trump and the Saudi peace effort.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 7 2020 2:17 utc | 160

I see that the people in this thread are starting to touch upon the power behind the throne, the greatest war machine upon our planet, our monetary system.

Here then is a simple description of our financial problem and a possible financial solution, in a little more than 300 words!

Our banks operate as pawn shops, with a license to create bank credit. When customers take their collateral to the bank, as security for a loan, the banks place this collateral before a banking ‘mirror’, called double-entry bookkeeping, and record the reflection as ‘bank capital’, owned by the bank, capital which can now be deposited into the customer’s account, in the form of a loan, bearing compound interest.

This system has some merit, as the ownership of the collateral has now been transferred to the bank. A $1 loan, at 6% annual compound interest, calculated daily, over 550 years, creates a debt of 214 trillion dollars. The banks consider this to be a modest return upon a reflection in a mirror! When the monetary supply is created bearing 3% annual compound interest, then 40% of the price of retail goods and services will be owed to the debt bankers, and fully 75% of the people’s income will be lost to the four financial demons, those of debt, interest, taxation, and inflation!

This banking system is obviously a fraud, imposed upon the customer, who is forced to accept the interest burden as the ‘price of capital’. The banks impose this deception as they know that not even ‘Shakespearean idiots’ will pay compound interest upon reflections of their own assets! However, these financial crimes demand that our banks be closed down for cartel fraud and racketeering!

The shells of these debt-banks can now become asset-banks, owned by our nation. In asset-banking, the reflection of customer collateral is recorded as an asset, owned by the customer, and loaned interest-free. After all, it is the customer’s collateral which creates the reflection we call ‘bank capital’. A $1 loan, at 0% annual compound interest, calculated daily, over 550 years, creates a debt of $1! This is slightly more humane than the ‘214 trillion dollar debt’ which allows the debt-bankers to ‘steal the world’!

Asset or debt, which monetary system would you prefer?

Posted by: Ric G | Jan 7 2020 2:25 utc | 161

It's 5D chess. Trump finally gets to pull the troops out of the Middle East as promised by acquiescing in the demands of the war faction in the Senate and the neocons. He has plausible deniability by pretending to be fighting tooth and nail against the inevitable ouster. Only question is who is the chess master and who are the pawns.

Posted by: webej | Jan 7 2020 2:29 utc | 162

A @ 105; Great post..

Posted by: ben | Jan 7 2020 2:32 utc | 163

Oops! Sorry Alpi. My 158 post, refers to your post @ 105..

Posted by: ben | Jan 7 2020 2:40 utc | 164

Forward 114, Thank you for your kind support. So many utterly broken hearts, but our spirits keep their eternal resistance to these seriously poor excuses for human beings.

and to Ric G 162 - The immaturity of the human species' falling for the bankster hocus-pocus of wealthpower giants is inexplicable. All the madness of a world being roiled and boiled and spoiled just so a fraction few can have billions times more than it is physically possible they could ever self-earn.

it could all so easily be made right!

Posted by: Phryne's frock | Jan 7 2020 2:51 utc | 165

So when our b tells us: "that the idea to kill Suleimani came from Secretary of State Pompeo" I definitely believe it. Pompeo only had to wait until Trump (uninformed about Suleimani) was playing golf in Mar-a-Lago and could easily be pushed into giving an "ok".
Posted by: Joerg | Jan 6 2020 22:19 utc | 99

I agree, and who would have known about the pending meeting and the SA effort through their contacts in SA? Israel/Mossad. And who is in contact contact with Pompeo? Bibi.

I believe Pompeo and Bibi set Trump up, first with the attacks on the five bases that Trump was not told about until after the fact and the,"Hey we could kill this guy" proposal from Pompeo.

You can hate Trump but in this case I think he was played. If he is smart, he can turn this into a win and leave Iraq and Afghanistan insuring his election. The real and very possible down side is the DS may assassinate him rather than let him walk away from the ME.

Posted by: frances | Jan 7 2020 2:57 utc | 166

b - thank you for the ongoing excellent coverage..

@ 132 a user.. some posters here aren't the sharpest knifes in the drawer...

i want to quote abrams from today in regards venezuala.. it applies to the usa with regard to iraq in spades..

"MR ABRAMS: I think we saw something interesting – we saw many interesting things yesterday, but one of them was the regime, which has the total control of the ability to intimidate, to jail, to exile, to bribe, failed."

usa towards iraq - "the regime, which has the total control of the ability to intimidate, to jail, to exile, to bribe, failed." abrams forgot to mention the usa's ability to also murder and maim in iraq.. that was the only part missing.. it is ironic how the pot calling the kettle black is so pronounced with abrams words towards venezuala which are much more appropriate of usa's attitude towards iraq at present..

the ongoing issue for me are false flags to get the war these psychopaths so desperately crave.. there are so many possibilities here for an ff to happen, it is honestly scary and you know uncle scam with there best buddies in the middle east will be working overtime on this too... add to that the pscyhopaths in the state dept and msm only too willing to comply with the latest lies, no matter how outrageous... so, the ff issue is a real concern as i see it... i am not sure how this threat is removed.. it is like getting rid of a cockroach infestation in washington or tel aviv and you all know that hasn't worked out too well either..

Posted by: james | Jan 7 2020 2:58 utc | 167

@ ben 164

Thanks. Was just reading Paul Craig Roberts article posted by Emily @133. Glad to know someone of his stature is thinking the same way.

I just hope Putin and China don’t lose this moment. A chance like this will not come again and it will be their undoing as well.

Posted by: Alpi | Jan 7 2020 3:00 utc | 168

Lt Dann is an indian waiting for his green card lol

Israeli hasbaras tend to act hard, yet play victim all the time. Prime example is liveleak comments, then they threaten to snitch or try to pin dirt on u.

Maybe even a DDOS attack lol, i have had my fair share of battles with them.

But good ol Lt Dann is simply doing it for his $3 paycheck so he ddoesn't have to recycle glass coke bottles in unsanitary conditions

Posted by: Deebo | Jan 7 2020 3:03 utc | 169

@frances 167

You’re still playing that fiddle?

Let it go. It is a moot point at this juncture. Trump has owned it and then some. You can’t save that idiot from himself. He is sinking tub of lard. Don’t jump in trying to save him.

Posted by: Alpi | Jan 7 2020 3:04 utc | 170

@176 frances.. it is hard to rule that out, but trump does have a bravado, i am the greatest stupidity about him, so it is also possible he figured he would hit the jackpot taking that option.. either way, pat lang says he would hold General Milley (CJCS) personally responsible for this glaringly insane fuck up...

remember it was relatively recent when the usa defined the revolutionary guards as a terrorist org.. very recent as memory serves.. i am sure the neo cons have been cooking this up for quite some time... if you want an idea of just how much work they have put into it, you can read this report from the combat terror center at west point with a neo con portrayal of Qassem Soleimani and Iran’s Unique Regional Strategy

@ karlof1.. no surprise on the usa vetoing zarifs presence at the un... the un is just an organization to be abused 24-7.. the usa have essentially been saying f-u to the un for quite some time.. at some point, some adults are going to have to change the set up and move the place to an independent country or the un will not continue.. it can't continue like this...

@ juliania... i miss grieved.. i don't know why there are posting at the sakers and not here... i am a bit mystified..

Posted by: james | Jan 7 2020 3:08 utc | 171


Not sure if many of readers are familiar with the the term assassin.
Here is news for some: Iranians invented it. Oh she-ite (sometime sunni). Yes, friends, it has hit the fan.

assassin shares its etymological roots with hashish.
Founded by Hassan-i Sabbah, the Assassins were active in the fortress of Alamut in Persia from the 8th to the 14th centuries, and later expanded by capturing forts in Syria. The group killed members of the Abbasid, Seljuq, Fatimid, and Christian Crusader elite for political and religious reasons.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jan 7 2020 3:08 utc | 172

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jan 6 2020 21:41 utc | 66

The US will leave Iraq because the most influential person in Iraq - Muqtada Al Sadr, has demanded so. And much more. He just called himself a signed enemy of Trump.

The Mahdi Army is very, very dangerous force and US costs this time will be even higher. We are talking about a country with young and fastly growing young population witn combat expertise.

Another US occupation will bury the US under many more trillions of dollar and the US will choke on its debt. So i can bet on that: another forceful US occupation of Iraq will bury the US.

Posted by: Passer by | Jan 7 2020 3:09 utc | 173

To Phyrnes frock 166

'and to Ric G 162 - The immaturity of the human species' falling for the bankster hocus-pocus of wealthpower giants is inexplicable. All the madness of a world being roiled and boiled and spoiled just so a fraction few can have billions times more than it is physically possible they could ever self-earn.'

I suspect that we are all bewildered by the deliberate financial complexity which hides the utter simplicity and pathological nature of the financial swindle which we call our monetary system. And let alone the peasants being confused, I include most of the greatest economists and financial minds upon our planet! It is so absurd that I can only assume that our ignorance is written into our psyches to create a play of consciousness, a Shakespearean theatre!

When the solution is so simple, the recording of customer collateral in the financial mirror as either an asset or a debt, to the customer or the banker, (the ying-yang of + or -), then where are the groups who are starting the legal challenges to the debt matrix which destroys us, including challenging those who hide, like roaches, in the financial shadows!

Posted by: Ric G | Jan 7 2020 3:24 utc | 174

The Congress approved assassination of General Suleimani is a redline stretching act which perfectly fits into the doctrinal logic Donald Rumsfeld and Admiral Cebrowski :create chaos for the state actors that resist U. S. hegemony. It has provoked a lot of emotional responses in these comments, some quite belligerent. Maybe a very righteous "war of resistance" in the M. E. will ensue, but surely that should not be the immediate action. Qassam Soleimani was himself an excellent negotiator in the Persian tradition. He had the power to mediate with the different factions of the resistance (who represent the countries that have become victims of the Rumsfeld/Cebrowski doctrines).
The stability of Iraq and the region is being severely menaced, and we would all be well served if Iran acted as it traditionally does, with prudence and discretion. Doing beastly things, even with words, seems to be an American sort of thing.
Trump is now guilty on both counts. He's down, but please don't wish him taken out!
If you can think of an alternative I congratulate your imagination.

Posted by: Australian lady | Jan 7 2020 3:27 utc | 175

@167 Frances am beginning to follow this train of thought down its rabbit hole.

If I was a degenerate betting man who loves the take-home of the long odds, I would say troops will be out of Syria and Iraq within the year. Trump should expedite it to avoid loss of American life.

If he does this, Gen. Suleimani's death will then be interpretted as a warning not to mess with Israel in the vacuum left by the U.S. there.

Anything less than this will doom his reelection. And he will have finally hammered the last nail into the MAGA coffin.

There is always hope.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jan 7 2020 3:39 utc | 176

The social media propaganda wave promoting this war has been intense - and it seems to have made its way here. One thing this propaganda wave seems to tell us is that this war is much much more than just a crazy stunt by Trump. There is a big push behind this war...

Posted by: paul | Jan 7 2020 3:47 utc | 177

So if Soleimani was also delivering a diplomatic answer to a Saudi message about possible SA/Iran reconciliation, how is the US going to feel about SA?

I think I have written before that the US taking over SA is the fall back "take the oil" ploy of late empire. If SA was thinking of going around the US then they better make the effort public now and quickly come to some agreement with Iran before the US responds.

Would be interesting to know what the communication has been between SA and Iran about the HOPE initiative.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 7 2020 4:03 utc | 178

Roberts is right on this, I think. China and Russia must step up now. Putin, however, is a lost cause. It's clear now that all this man really wants in life is to be a US vassal, though he'd like a good deal. Garisimonov and others may feel differently, however.

Posted by: paul | Jan 7 2020 4:04 utc | 179

@dan and @IanDobbs, you 2 had me in stitches, do you do weddings and bar mitvahs?

Posted by: MW | Jan 7 2020 4:30 utc | 180

Karlof1 @88

Thanks for posting that link. I have read a lot of Hudson over the years and this short article may be his best, most succinct explanation of the economic and structural reasons/dynamics of US policies worldwide and particularly in the oil rich Mideast. I second your recommendation that everyone here should read and grasp what Hudson states in it, a position that he has developed and maintained for years. This article is extremely important and accessible.

Blake Holden

Posted by: Blake Holden | Jan 7 2020 4:52 utc | 181

"the ongoing issue for me are false flags to get the war these psychopaths so desperately crave.. there are so many possibilities here for an ff to happen"
Posted by: james | Jan 7 2020 2:58 utc | 168

I am less concerned about a false flag at this stage. By openly assassinating Qasem Soleimani and thereby assuming the status of aggressor in the eyes of the world, the US has severely blunted the emotional impact of a false flag. Most of the world, and even many Americans, will simply see an attempt at a false flag for what it is - a "flag."
More than half the world is waiting with baited breath for the Iranian retaliation. The US will never be able to mobilize its population now. Even if it did, they are practically alone in this. Even at the height of American Imperial Power, George W Bush realized the prudence of getting all nations on board with his first Gulf War. Bush the Elder was a son of a bitch, but he was no idiot.
Assassinating General Soleimani was the most desperate and dumbest thing I have ever seen executed on the world stage in my lifetime. As for Trump: manipulated or not, he will wear this and deservedly so.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Jan 7 2020 5:09 utc | 182

Soleimani's goal in life was to unite the resistance against the US and Israel. There were numerous assignation attempts via proxies against him yet all failed. Too cunning to be taken out by anonymous assassins, yet he deliberately left himself open to to public assassination by US Israel.
Now he has achieved his goal. Even Sadr in Iraq, always working towards his own small time ends and fucking everyone around, has declared war on the US.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 7 2020 5:13 utc | 183

Sorry, I meant George H.W.Bush, not George W. Bush, in my post @183

Posted by: Activist Potato | Jan 7 2020 5:15 utc | 184

I am USA born and I am extremely embarrassed and angry that Trump did this. It is shameful to attack a foe in this manner and Trump has demonstrated no honor in having this man executed this way. Wow, what a low point of me as an American.

Posted by: Fernando Arauxo | Jan 7 2020 5:17 utc | 185

karlof1 | Jan 6 2020 21:59 utc | 88

Yes, indeed! Hudson's veritable insider analysis is a 1st-person account of actual events.

For a few years I tried to shout-out another 1st-person account from another angle...namely Dick Cheney's 1999 speech [as Halliburton CEO, etc] at London's Institute Of Petroleum:

[it's straight talk that aligns within Hudson's broader scene; begins after 3-page introduction]

Posted by: chu teh | Jan 7 2020 5:19 utc | 186

You can hate Trump but in this case I think he was played.
Posted by: frances | Jan 7 2020 2:57 utc |

I don't hate Trump (I don't know him and I cannot pretend to know his motivations) but if he was played then shame on him - he doesn't deserve to be President.
At what point did Leaders in our culture become followers?

Posted by: Activist Potato | Jan 7 2020 5:26 utc | 187

Magnier has a new article out: Fragmentation In 'The Axis Of Resistance' Led To Soleimani's Death.

He make two points that I think are controversial:

The inaction of the Resistance axis emboldened Trump to do what he wants.

How accurate is this? It seems to me that the priority was fighting ISIS and securing Syrian territory.

Magnier ignores info that might detract from his thesis. For example, he says nothing about an Iran-Saudi de-escalation initiative. We don't yet know how likely it was for this to be successful but the initiative itself indicates that Iran and the Axis of Resistance were making headway.

Magnier is deceptive in that it's uncertain what part of his post is derived from a source that he says was close to Soleimani and what part is just Magnier's musings. It seems likely that Magnier is responsible for the blame the victim tone of the article, which only serves to:

1) excuse or partially excuse USA/Trump, and/or

2) prompt reflexive, poorly planned attacks (based on a feeling of guilt due to inaction), and/or

3) provide a false narrative for false-flag attacks based on (2).

Abdul-Mahdi merely told Esper that the proposed US action was dangerous ... US would not have hit Iraqi targets had Abdul-Mahdi dared to oppose the US decision.

Is this true? I thought Mahdi said that he denied US permission to bomb the PMU. I know the Iraqi government denounced the action after it occurred, saying that policing within Iraq was a matter for the Iraqi State, not USA.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 7 2020 5:35 utc | 188
"Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif is being denied a US visa he had requested to enter the United States to participate in the UN Security Council meeting this week, Foreign Policy reports.

A Washington-based diplomatic source told the publication on Monday that a Trump administration official phoned UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres on Monday to tell him that the United States would not allow Zarif into the country."

New York state should be taken away from the US and made an international territory.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 7 2020 5:35 utc | 189
"The top U.S. military officer told reporters the letter was a draft document meant only to underscore increased movement by U.S. forces. “Poorly worded, implies withdrawal. That’s not what’s happening,” said Army General Mark Milley, chairman of the military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff."

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 7 2020 5:45 utc | 190

Jackrabbit "The inaction of the Resistance axis emboldened Trump to do what he wants. How accurate is this?"

Iraq is divided and the factions that should have been working with Iran were working for their own small time ends. Seems an accurate take to me.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 7 2020 5:48 utc | 191

@ Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 7 2020 5:35 utc | 190 who wrote
New York state should be taken away from the US and made an international territory.

New York is not called the Empire State for nothing......

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 7 2020 5:54 utc | 192

Thanks to John Brewster for filling me in on Rory Stewart's bio. A bit of that is on the cover of the paperback I have as well.

I had a further thought about the Nusrallah speech, which perhaps b noted as well. And that was that he emphasized not attacking US civilians. That to me speaks of Putin-like concern for ordinary people, his own popularity in that ability to think in human terms always. It is something the US elite have forgotten, and it cannot be faked. We might learn something about the Middle East this turn of the wheel. (We being westerners, as many on this blog are.)

Posted by: juliania | Jan 7 2020 6:00 utc | 193

Posted by: juliania | Jan 7 2020 2:00 utc | 157

from thesaker

Nasrallah’s full speech: Soleimani’s assassination will put an end to US presence in the Middle East, US troops will go home in coffins

Posted by: r | Jan 7 2020 6:20 utc | 194

@167 frances

Still peddling that horseshet, huh? It's almost word for word what you wrote previously.

And NemesisCalling, you'll find any excuse no matter how thin to hang on to your illusion of Trump.

Trump has DOUBLED-DOWN on his threats to Iran. He threatened Iraq for voting to kick the U.S. out.

Every day Trump rails against others for hating Israel! Israel, Israel, Israel that's all Trump cares about.

Israel does NOT want peace between Saudi Arabia and Iran. I repeat Israel does NOT WANT Iraq involved in trying to improve relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran. Israel despises Iran and doesn't want any diplomatic efforts to lead to normalized relations between Iran and Sunni ME countries OR Europe! That's why Trump was chosen! Trump was chosen to destroy Iran. Trump's first move out of the gate was to tear up the JCPOA that gave Iran some legitimacy on the world stage, that started to open business between EU and Iran!

Iraq was trying to normalize relations between SA and Iran. Israel perceived this as a huge threat! Everything Israel wants; Trump delivers. Trump from the beginning turned things around on Iran and returned to the destructive policy of demonizing Iran after tearing up the nuclear deal.

Mahdi, the Iraqi PM, requested a meeting with Soleimani on thawing SA-Iran relations. Soleimani was second to the Ayatollah Khameini and had his favor and trust. If anyone could convince Khameini towards improving relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran IT WAS Soleimani. The Saudis probably understood that Soleimani might eventually become the next President of Iran. They understood he was very powerful , very charismatic and a shrewd commander on the battlefield and that there was little chance they could challenge him further. So diplomacy was in the works.

The Israelis, were horrified by this emerging situation and perceived Soleimani as a huge threat. Trump is 100% loyal to Zionism. His actions as I stated from the beginning prove this. He sabotaged whatever normalcy and legitimacy Iran was achieving on the world stage. With the assassination of a beloved, charismatic, powerful leader, Soleimani, Trump sabotaged what Iraq was endeavoring and Iran's future as a legitimate power in the region and any potential of Soleimani becoming President of Iran. Zionists knew to what extent Soleimani was revered by ALL the people of Iran, the millions at his funeral prove this! Zionists wanted this powerful and beloved leader eliminated.

Trump is a vile human being; remove the human! He knew perfectly well why Mahdi and Soleimani were meeting and when; that Soleimani would be meeting with Mahdi to discuss the rapprochement with Saudi Arabia and he had him MURDERED. Yes, your cult god Trump intentionally had Soleimani EXECUTED knowing why Soleimani was visiting Iraq, for the diplomacy meeting and funeral of those fighters killed by the U.S. and then to add egregious insult to injury demonized Soleimani by alleging Soleimani was an imminent threat to U.S. personnel therefore must be killed...the imminent threat is a fabrication on par with aluminum tubes and yellow cake! This is the kind of man Trump is!!!

He sabotaged Iran's path to normalcy and legitimacy TWICE in a monumental, irreversible way, hurting millions of people in Iran with the sanctions, fueling unrest through deprivation, and then ordering this hit, murdering a beloved, charismatic leader and potential President of Iran.

STOP protecting this bastard already. He is the scum of the earth. You know what I think? He may also actually have been jealous, YES, jealous of Soleimani, because Soleimani was a WARRIOR, A REAL COMMANDER, A REAL LEADER and I'm sure it bothered the hell out of Trump to witness the millions of people who loved him and came out to mourn him!

Soleimani came from very modest means to achieve what Trump can never achieve even being President (Zionist bought and paid) and robbing Soleimani of that honor, President, that was certainly to be his one day and he EARNED.

A pox on Trump!

Posted by: Circe | Jan 7 2020 6:25 utc | 195

even if there is evidence that soleimani or iran helped the iraqis use ieds, it does not matter. the us were invaders. an occupied country can ask help from others.

Posted by: Toxik | Jan 7 2020 6:39 utc | 196

Why do you think the media is completely ignoring how Soleimani helped the U.S. in Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq??? Because the media is the gatekeeper of Zionism and parrots the hasbara talking points! And the Zionist hasbara script is all about DEMONIZING Iran, and of course, Palestinians.

Posted by: Circe | Jan 7 2020 7:09 utc | 197

196 Circe

Good for you - agree with every word.
So someone tell us one good thing Trump has actually done - for anyone including the USA - other than for Israel, over three years.
He has trashed the name USA across the planet.
Breaking agreements and using sanctions as a weapon of war.
He has dropped the US reputation into a cesspit.
All for Israel
Always was and always will be.
Israel first, second and third.
Impeach and sack him for this illegal cold blooded killing of a great and good man.
He will kill us all.

Posted by: Emily | Jan 7 2020 7:14 utc | 198

The next most obvious are all of Trump's properties around the world. There are something like 300,000 Iranians living in the USA and at least a few are loyal to the state. A few nice pickup sized truck bombs could wipe out everything Trump owns. Then we have the very capable cyber warfare capabilities of Iran. If this were all coordinated at every level then it would be a disastrous blow to the US. Would they nuke every country that attacks this way? The US is extremely vulnerable and has been cashing checks they can't cover. It is led by a madman and his master's who seem even more insane. I think they finally have crossed the line of tolerance and there is now going to be a major shift away from the US by all of its friends once things liven up. The fuse is already lit and there is now no way to stop it. I can't think of anything the US could do to appease Iran at this point. Iraq seems to be equally livid. We already know about how justifiably angry Syria, Yemen, and the Palestinians are as well as the numerous drone strikes in Pakistan and Afghanistan so a lot of people have axes to grind. If it gains momentum then nothing short of victory or annihilation will stop this. I think Iran could settle on sinking the Marine amphibious ships and destroying Trump's properties plus an assassination of someone like Pompeo. That might measure up to something equitable in their eyes. But, that is probably the minimum.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Jan 7 2020 7:54 utc | 199

Trump is a Jew himself. Like his father Frederick CHRIST Trump Sr, Trump is a Jew pretending, in the service of Jews, to be a Christian. Of course any Jew who matters knows what's up. Jews like this are scattered all over the Western world in critical positions. A past important one was Kennedy killer LBJ. Nancy Pelosi is one. So is Macron. Tsipras who screwed the Greeks. And probably Angela Merkel.

The big Jews have been divided into the dominant Rothschild faction and the hyper-Zionists like Trump and Adelson. The fight is over what to do about Iran. The Rothschilds had their servant Obama put through the Iran nuke deal—at the expense of Israeli lebensraum. (War with Iran was deemed too risky to big Jew private finance.) And the Democrats and intelligence agencies have been working on order to bring Trump down.

Trump was playing Zionism (his core belief) and American heritage nationalism (that he's putting on; he's actually the snake in the poem) against the Rothschild faction—to which he threw every financial sop imaginable, to no avail.

Trump was pulling out of Syria for election purposes, but going against both the Rothschilds and the hyper-Zionists was more than he could manage. He switched, ditching the Deplorables, and possibly uniting the big Jews. The Rothschild's Economist makes it clear that Trump needs to stay in Syria, and that all it will take are small forces. But now he has to stay in Iraq. The military, with their shred of remaining honor have tried to move out, but Trump seems to have calculated that American military honor is a tiny joke against Judaic satanism.

The 'gift' of Golan to Israel was not just for Israel. The Golan oil, controlled by Rothschild, is the deepest seam of petroleum ever seen and said by some industry sources to be bigger than Saudi reserves. Private finance needs this oil for the petro-dollar.

If Soleimani was getting somewhere with rapprochement between Iran and the Saudis, nothing could be worse for the Rothschilds and their petro-Federal Reserve 'dollar'. Trump pulled the trigger on Soleimani for all the big Jews—banksters and hyper-Zionists.

War games have shown that the US cannot win a conventional war against Iran. Iran can halt traffic in the strait and bring the price of oil to $200, imploding the private finance Jews' quadrillions in derivatives. It will have to be the "usable" nukes Trump has had developed for the purpose at great expense.

Putin had held Trump back with a subtle two-part and partly private warning. First, he announced with great solemnity at his 2018 annual public conference, to great applause:

"I believe it as my duty to say this: any use of nuclear weapons of any yield - small, medium or whatever - against Russia or its allies will be regarded as a nuclear attack against our country. Retaliation will be instant with all the ensuing consequences."

Putin took another year and a half to drop the other shoe. A much heralded conference in Jerusalem of Putin friend and national security advisor Patrushev with Bolton and Netanyahu was followed by the lead headline in Israeli newspapers that Russia considers Iran its ally.

The time has come for Putin now to put the message out more publicly and with inescapable force, so Trump and the American public and all the big Jews can get the message loud and clear. Putin's silence, if that's what he chooses, will speak for itself.

Posted by: sarz | Jan 7 2020 8:02 utc | 200

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