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January 29, 2020
Open Thread 2020-08
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Eastern Lion has a thread up on the Houthis recent activities on YNMS … Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 29 2020 14:28 utc | 1 regarding the Wikileaks release regarding the DNC leaks and Seth Rich – as expected, the FBI was lying: Posted by: Peter | Jan 29 2020 14:34 utc | 2 China finally admits: For me, there is no website more valuable than this one. But I would like additional sources. I’d appreciate the names of some additional websites I can add to the list of those that I frequent. Please offer a suggestion, if you have one. Posted by: David J Valachovic | Jan 29 2020 14:43 utc | 4 mntr0 says the yellow vests won. the police will join the protesters in the aftermath of the firefighter demonstrations. the military will back the police. there will be internationally observed elections. get ready for FREXIT. this is the end of the EU and the beginning of a long phase of nationalism for europe. zionism just lost europe. have a nice day. Posted by: poshpotdllr | Jan 29 2020 14:46 utc | 5 This is what happens when you fall for your enemy’s propaganda and sell off your dignity: Is anyone else wondering how the recurring crises between Turkey and US interests/allies (Israel and Egypt for example) is going to develop. Posted by: bevin | Jan 29 2020 15:26 utc | 7 Now that Netanyahu and Trump have made their demand for Palestinian total surrender public, now that their ultimatum has been delivered, we will see what Putin is made of. Putin’s defenders will no longer be able to hide, assuming we get the usual bootlicking for Israel from Putin, with a side of mild disapproval from Lavrov. Admittedly, Putin did have the guts to include Palestine and Abbas while visiting Israel the other day, so there is some hope that he will find a way to do the right thing. No one else visited them, according to what I read. None of the other visiting leaders did that. But the time is now for Putin to take a real stand, the one thing I know he hates to do. He is, after all, the Great Pragmatist, ie the Great Bootlicker. Let him finally show differnt. Each step Trump takes is more despicable, more inhuman than the last one. One shred of fairmindedness would turn the situation in Palestine towards real peace, away from the death strewn Pax Americana type of peace. This is Putin’s moment. Posted by: paul | Jan 29 2020 15:34 utc | 8 I have to post this (amended) comment I posted on previous open thread again: Posted by: Circe | Jan 29 2020 15:43 utc | 9 Circe | Jan 29 2020 15:43 utc | 10 Posted by: Walter | Jan 29 2020 15:50 utc | 10 VK @ 6. Posted by: Montreal | Jan 29 2020 15:54 utc | 11 Looked at the Coronavirus thread, the prev. open thread, did not see this article. Maybe I missed it … ? Posted by: Noirette | Jan 29 2020 15:57 utc | 12 Woohoo! Posted by: A | Jan 29 2020 15:59 utc | 13 Erdogan is in a dead end. Posted by: Virgile | Jan 29 2020 16:11 utc | 14 @ David J Valachovic 4 Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Jan 29 2020 16:12 utc | 15 Yemeni army overrun Sana’a: Spox and Posted by: snake | Jan 29 2020 16:16 utc | 16 Just published overview re Libya Posted by: Robert Snefjella | Jan 29 2020 16:19 utc | 17 It looks like Noam Chomsky has finally jumped the shark – demanding that no one votes for Greens, but must vote for whatever corporate whore the DNC crams down our throats. Really sad. People I used to respect (like Norman Solomon), just completely sold out.
Here are the first few paragraphs of Rasmus’s response to Chomsky, et al:
Posted by: john brewster | Jan 29 2020 16:24 utc | 18 To Noirette 13: Posted by: A P | Jan 29 2020 16:27 utc | 19 Long overdue. Hopeful this will change minds
Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 29 2020 16:30 utc | 21 —–There are also active links to a variety of sites on the main page of this website. Posted by: Chevrus | Jan 29 2020 16:31 utc | 22 I walked away from recommending Chomsky over several similar instances where he recently came down on the plainly wrong side of things. I now see him in the same stripe as the Guardian (UK), and The Nation. Posted by: A P | Jan 29 2020 16:35 utc | 23 Peter @2
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 29 2020 16:38 utc | 24 To Circe 10: Posted by: A P | Jan 29 2020 16:45 utc | 25 That’s “the World” the U.S.A. likes to propagandise… Justice & so called Human Rights always bloody compromised… Humanism has become a swearword…. hence humanlives really don’t count on the “wrong side” of its paradigm… misery, hardship, poverty,injustice, prejudice, racism, tragedy and death all excusable for the greater greed and its evil of projected hegemony at all costs… and it’s effecting destructively millions and millions of people all around this globe. Posted by: Ashino Wolf Sushanti | Jan 29 2020 16:54 utc | 26 I would like to take this opportunity to thank “b” and the many commenters here for the work which provides such an informative site. Thank you indeed. Posted by: ok Rmd | Jan 29 2020 17:02 utc | 27 “Americans Keep Putting Up Roadblocks Against Russian Troops on Key Syrian Highway” Posted by: David G | Jan 29 2020 17:06 utc | 28 A P at 20, maybe, interesting, idk. Posted by: Noirette | Jan 29 2020 17:07 utc | 29 As if more proof was needed of Canada’s vassal state status, just traded Brit control to US control. Posted by: A P | Jan 29 2020 17:07 utc | 30 @8 Posted by: William Cockshott | Jan 29 2020 17:12 utc | 31 Pretty cool use of tech plus albatrosses homing in on fishing ships tracking illegal fishing Posted by: c1ue | Jan 29 2020 17:12 utc | 32 the Left, all over the West, since the French Revolution, is the instrument of the Jew. Imagine nowadays Colossus of the Left, Chomsky, to bother to gate-keeping for the Judeo-Zionist interests within the DNC. After all, the only loyalty that matters to the “organized community”, to the “collective being”, is the Tribe´s. Posted by: nietzsche1510 | Jan 29 2020 17:13 utc | 33 I need to raise the subject of ‘divide and conquer’ here, as for some time it has seemed that a simplified version of middle east commentary has used Shia vs. Sunni, especially in the previous thread giving the US false map of its dream division of Iraq. Saker has an interesting opinion piece by Nasser Kandil from middleastobserver.net that contains the following observation: Posted by: juliania | Jan 29 2020 17:18 utc | 35 To William Cockshutt 32: Crocodile tears, given that it was the British that occupied Palestine and it was the Brit aristocracy that gave the Zionist Movement a BIG helping hand in stealing Palestine. The Balfour Declaration, basically written by the Lord Rothschild of the day and signed by Balfour without Parliamentary approval. Posted by: A P | Jan 29 2020 17:19 utc | 36 An interesting data point (as well as pretty good overall situation summary) for coronavirus Dr. Daniel Lucy coronavirus Q & A
So one reason why coronavirus confirmed cases spiked is because they started testing pneumonia patients for coronavirus on/after January 18. Posted by: c1ue | Jan 29 2020 17:21 utc | 37 As reflected in numerous polls and BigLie Media attacks, Sanders campaign is really beginning to roll as seen by the following articles, “‘Absurd’: Sanders Campaign Hits Back at AP Story Equating Bernie’s Social Security Record With Biden’s.” “New Poll Shows Bernie Sanders With More Than Double the Support of Joe Biden in New Hampshire.” And many more can be found at the parent website. Sanders stance on Occupied Palestine really makes him stand out from DNC and Trump, the latter two in reality are one in the same. This article attacks Perez’s choices by telling the following truth: “Perez’s nominations clearly show that the swamp seems in it to win for itself, regardless of the electoral outcome for the nation.” Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 29 2020 17:29 utc | 38 “try to divorce yourself from all the history that has happened over the years” Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 17:31 utc | 39 I’ll be going to my local Iowa dem caucus next Monday to be counted for Andrew Yang. Tulsi Gabbard if Yang is not viable. If she is not viable either, I leave the premises early. In any case I spend time every day campaigning for a just cap on personal fortunes as that is the issue all other issues spring from. Will vote Green in fall if neither Yang or Gabbard is the dem candidate. Caucused for Sanders last time: fool me once… Posted by: Phryne’s frock | Jan 29 2020 17:32 utc | 40 David J Valachovic #4 Posted by: Per/Norway | Jan 29 2020 17:32 utc | 41 The good news: there’s a way to see what activity FB is tracking when you’re not actually logged into FB: Off Facebook activity Posted by: c1ue | Jan 29 2020 17:33 utc | 42 What was the Yemeni announcement of an attack on SA energy assets about? Did they miss or is something else going on? Posted by: casey | Jan 29 2020 17:55 utc | 43 karlof1 @39:
This ‘logic’ seems so reasonable – until one comes to understand the big picture.
!! Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 29 2020 18:01 utc | 44 nietzsche1510 | Jan 29 2020 17:13 utc | 34 Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 29 2020 18:06 utc | 45 A P@26 Posted by: Circe | Jan 29 2020 18:18 utc | 46 >If Sanders were really for socialism and the people, Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jan 29 2020 18:23 utc | 47 Re: candidates in the U.S. and various comments above. Posted by: Zee | Jan 29 2020 18:29 utc | 48 Yesterday, there was an incomplete discussion about Iran’s relations with the Taliban. Today we are informed that Iran’s invited Taliban to Tehran to discuss the ongoing peace talks. In any realistic stakeholder/patriotic Afghan government to be formed upon the exiting of NATO forces, the Taliban will be present, a reality that even Russia has accepted, although it still designates Taliban as a terrorist organization despite their visiting Moscow. Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 29 2020 18:35 utc | 49 @karlof1 #39 Posted by: c1ue | Jan 29 2020 18:39 utc | 50 Hi b, Posted by: Cynthia | Jan 29 2020 18:41 utc | 51 Trailer Trash @49– Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 29 2020 18:45 utc | 52 JRabbit said: “If Sanders were really for socialism and the people, he would’ve created a Movement. He didn’t.” Posted by: Phryne’s frock | Jan 29 2020 18:49 utc | 53 There are real risks of a Kessler Syndrome in the next years, and this could change the way we are accustomed to live now, specially the advanced armies Posted by: DFC | Jan 29 2020 18:54 utc | 54 Posted by: vk | Jan 29 2020 14:52 utc | 6 Posted by: Mao | Jan 29 2020 18:56 utc | 55 Bernie Sanders: 10 Years Fighting Citizens United Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 19:04 utc | 56 Sanders seems to be an issue with our wingpawn friends, and with the Dem elite. Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Jan 29 2020 19:09 utc | 57 Cynthia @ 53 Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 29 2020 19:13 utc | 58 A BREAKUP MADE IN HEAVEN?
The article was also parodied by Anti-Empire. I wrote this in response: Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 29 2020 19:16 utc | 59 @57 Mao Posted by: TJ | Jan 29 2020 19:16 utc | 60 Here’s something you don’t see everyday: French Cops Beating the Hell Out of Firefighters Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jan 29 2020 19:19 utc | 61 Time for that non-existent edit button. Just checked original at Naked Capitalism, where I’d not normally go, and there are two organizations using the Stategic Culture name. Oh well. Still all sounds fishy. Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 29 2020 19:20 utc | 62 The Saker has an article that links to Byron King’s conjecture regarding the Iranian missile attack on the U.S. base(s) in Iraq. I had never heard of him– apparently he’s a geologist, former U.S. military (Navy)but I was impressed with his article… worth a look… I invite your opinions on it. Posted by: migueljose | Jan 29 2020 19:21 utc | 63 TJ @62: Posted by: David G | Jan 29 2020 19:26 utc | 64 Good pic and interesting speakers Posted by: Mina | Jan 29 2020 19:30 utc | 65 The idea that there will be a voting solution to what ails the US is just laughable. Citizens United assured that will never happen. Campaign finance was an issue that should have been nailed down in the 80’s via Constitutional Amendment. Didn’t happen. Posted by: dorje | Jan 29 2020 19:33 utc | 66 How the US empire stole the left’s ideas Posted by: Mao | Jan 29 2020 19:36 utc | 67 Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 29 2020 19:16 utc | 61 Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 19:39 utc | 68 Cynthia @53 Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 29 2020 19:42 utc | 69 Bussines Insider, Apr 28, 2018: Posted by: Mao | Jan 29 2020 19:43 utc | 70 >Then what do you call the millions who follow Sanders? Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jan 29 2020 19:43 utc | 71 Posted by: c1ue | Jan 29 2020 17:33 utc | 43 Posted by: xLemming | Jan 29 2020 19:43 utc | 72 “The man has a campaign staffed by violent revolutionaries who want gulags. The last thing America needs right now is a revolution. It needs thoughtful reform, particularly in foreign policy where it is incurring a debt burden that will enslave our great-grandchildren or will have to be repudiated.” Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 19:47 utc | 73 dorje #68: “The idea that there will be a voting solution to what ails the US is just laughable.” Posted by: occupatio | Jan 29 2020 19:47 utc | 74 @ 18 robert snefjella… good article.. thank you…. has this quote from your article ever been confirmed in any way? Posted by: james | Jan 29 2020 19:48 utc | 75 There are massive strikes in France today against the Macron regime. Here are yesterday’s street battles between the French military police/CRS (created by the Vichy regime in 1943) and thousands of professional firefighters. The firefighters are highly respected by the French people suggesting that the regime is collapsing. Posted by: Krollchem | Jan 29 2020 19:49 utc | 76 I have often referred to “the old army game”. After, or during, the US “Civil War” (actually the Northern War of Aggression, but that’s another tale) a category of con-games that became popularly known under that rubric, “the old army game”. Any game based on deception that attempts to fleece the mark is the old army game. Posted by: Walter | Jan 29 2020 19:50 utc | 77 @ 43 c1ue /@74 xlemming… regarding that link, my friend says this – “yeah, if you don’t log out of facebook as soon as you’re finished using it then it basically watches everything else you do on your browser.” so there you have it.. creepy marketing is becoming industry standard.. Posted by: james | Jan 29 2020 20:00 utc | 78 @4 David J Valachovic Posted by: TJ | Jan 29 2020 20:05 utc | 79 @Posted by: john brewster | Jan 29 2020 16:24 utc | 19 Posted by: librul | Jan 29 2020 20:11 utc | 80 Whitney Webb has an interesting piece on the effort to blame upcoming 2020 election mayhem on Putin-Xi and Co., while it will actually come via Unit 8200 (oops, Cybereason): Posted by: casey | Jan 29 2020 20:14 utc | 81 james @77: i asked larry johnson over at sst … he says ‘very unlikely …
2) … Larry’s being somewhat truthful in that Rich is “very unlikely” to be a USA intelligence asset for the simple reason that CIA can’t operate in USA. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 29 2020 20:16 utc | 82 james @80:
I think Google and some others do the same. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 29 2020 20:18 utc | 83 @4 David J Valachovic Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 20:23 utc | 84 Walter | Jan 29 2020 19:50 utc | 79 Posted by: chuteh | Jan 29 2020 20:29 utc | 85 Posted by: paul | Jan 29 2020 15:34 utc | 8 Posted by: Mao | Jan 29 2020 20:33 utc | 86 Posted by: migueljose | Jan 29 2020 19:21 utc | 65 Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 29 2020 20:34 utc | 87 chuteh | Jan 29 2020 20:29 utc | 87 Posted by: Walter | Jan 29 2020 20:36 utc | 88 @86 Bubbles Posted by: TJ | Jan 29 2020 20:42 utc | 89 Comments on the latest CBO estimations of US Debt? Posted by: Passer by | Jan 29 2020 20:42 utc | 90 @ 84 jr… run it by him a different way and see how he responds! Posted by: james | Jan 29 2020 20:46 utc | 91 pat lang in an act of benevolence seems to be letting me post at ssr… those intp folks are tricky! Posted by: james | Jan 29 2020 20:47 utc | 92 There is plenty on ZH that has nothing to do with Trump, right now it’s the Fed, Coronavirus, oil tanker burning, WHO admitting they are morons, US home sales, Boeing, Carlos Ghosn, French Firefighters fighting the Police, Portugal’s Drug Decriminalization, NewsGuard, Hypersonic Weapons etc etc etc. Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 20:56 utc | 93 Walter @79– Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 29 2020 21:01 utc | 94 james @93 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 29 2020 21:03 utc | 95 The value of Sanders’ campaigning for president lies not in his being a savior for all us little folks if he gets elected. That certainly is not why I support him anyway. Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 29 2020 21:04 utc | 96 @David J Valachovic #4 Posted by: S | Jan 29 2020 21:07 utc | 97 Posted by: james | Jan 29 2020 19:48 utc | 77 Posted by: Robert Snefjella | Jan 29 2020 21:07 utc | 98 @95 Bubbles Posted by: TJ | Jan 29 2020 21:16 utc | 99 Saraqib may fall by morning! The tweet’s already an hour old and had SAA just 4k from its current objective. Some terrorist tweets advocate retreating in the face of the very rapid advance by the renamed yet still renowned Tiger Forces. It’s entirely possible Idlib town could be reached by the end of tomorrow. This map depicts the massive cauldron being formed based on the rapid advance. Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 29 2020 21:22 utc | 100 |
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