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January 29, 2020

Open Thread 2020-08

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Posted by b on January 29, 2020 at 13:59 UTC | Permalink

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Eastern Lion has a thread up on the Houthis recent activities on YNMS ...

In other news they also say they have attacked the Saudis oil facilities again:

Yemen's Houthis say targeted Saudi Aramco facilities in Jizan

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 29 2020 14:28 utc | 1

regarding the Wikileaks release regarding the DNC leaks and Seth Rich - as expected, the FBI was lying:

Posted by: Peter | Jan 29 2020 14:34 utc | 2

China finally admits:

Capitalist world is facing systemic crisis

It doesn't have editorial status (instead it's a "viewpoint") - but it's still Global Times.

Posted by: vk | Jan 29 2020 14:38 utc | 3

For me, there is no website more valuable than this one. But I would like additional sources. I'd appreciate the names of some additional websites I can add to the list of those that I frequent. Please offer a suggestion, if you have one.

Posted by: David J Valachovic | Jan 29 2020 14:43 utc | 4

mntr0 says the yellow vests won. the police will join the protesters in the aftermath of the firefighter demonstrations. the military will back the police. there will be internationally observed elections. get ready for FREXIT. this is the end of the EU and the beginning of a long phase of nationalism for europe. zionism just lost europe. have a nice day.

Posted by: poshpotdllr | Jan 29 2020 14:46 utc | 5

This is what happens when you fall for your enemy's propaganda and sell off your dignity:

Fury Online as US Embassy in Denmark Claims American Soldiers Freed Auschwitz During WWII

It wasn't enough to throw the CPSU legacy in the mud. It wasn't enough to sell off your own people to neoliberalism. It wasn't enough to publicly condemn - on completely false arguments - the entirety of the first proletarian state experience in history. It wasn't enough to kiss the boot of the myth of the European civilization/culture. It wasn't enough - and never will be.

Now they are going after the few (previously believed to be) uncontestable achievements of the communists. Outright lies are fair game now.

Funny how we pressure ourselves with "facing and accepting reality" ("fact-based"), but we don't use this argument when the hegemon side blatantly do it (e.g. the USA openly preaching for extinguishing Iraq - a sovereign nation-State, UN member - in the age of nationalism)

Posted by: vk | Jan 29 2020 14:52 utc | 6

Is anyone else wondering how the recurring crises between Turkey and US interests/allies (Israel and Egypt for example) is going to develop.
No doubt Turkey, which for decades acted as Israel's guarantor in the region, is going to reject the Steal of the Century which, in effect, disposes of parts of the Ottoman Empire to the prejudice of Islamic interests. And so, it would seem will Jordan.
Turkey's position is messy- it is single handedly preventing a Syrian victory and contradictory- but it seems now to be gelling into taking leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood and clamping down in Israeli megalomania.
It could be nothing much-a feint in the diplomatic dance- designed to keep Russia and US off balance. It probably is but given that neither the US nor Israel does diplomacy any more it might lead to a situation in which Turkey and Israel are in a direct confrontation, with Russia (Iran) and the US (plus lapdogs) behind their respective friends.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 29 2020 15:26 utc | 7

Now that Netanyahu and Trump have made their demand for Palestinian total surrender public, now that their ultimatum has been delivered, we will see what Putin is made of. Putin's defenders will no longer be able to hide, assuming we get the usual bootlicking for Israel from Putin, with a side of mild disapproval from Lavrov. Admittedly, Putin did have the guts to include Palestine and Abbas while visiting Israel the other day, so there is some hope that he will find a way to do the right thing. No one else visited them, according to what I read. None of the other visiting leaders did that. But the time is now for Putin to take a real stand, the one thing I know he hates to do. He is, after all, the Great Pragmatist, ie the Great Bootlicker. Let him finally show differnt. Each step Trump takes is more despicable, more inhuman than the last one. One shred of fairmindedness would turn the situation in Palestine towards real peace, away from the death strewn Pax Americana type of peace. This is Putin's moment.

Posted by: paul | Jan 29 2020 15:34 utc | 8

I have to post this (amended) comment I posted on previous open thread again:

Something else VERY IMPORTANT I gleaned from the Intercept article I posted above (in prev. Open thread)

i.e. Trump Netanyahu dictate terms

AIPAC is running a pressure campaign on Facebook targetting Sanders and a pro-Israel super-Pac disguised with a generic Democratic name (so no one ties it to Zionism, of course) will run a dirty attack ad against Sanders just days before the Iowa caucuses.

Also, the DNC is preparing to go to war against Sanders appointing Clinton militants, supporters and centrist anti-progressive apparatchiks to the 2020 Convention Committee.

dnc preparing for battle against bernie

And JOHN PODESTA IS ALSO ON THE COMMITTEE! (See last name on list, right corner.) This time they're trying to sabotage Bernie's campaign right out in the open!!!

And this one from Grayzone contributed by Krollchem.


This is no time for cynical apathy. Bernie is leading in the polls. Bernie has a good shot at winning if people expose this and fight this back.

Expose the Rig. Contribute. Spread Bernie support everywhere.



Posted by: Circe | Jan 29 2020 15:43 utc | 9

Circe | Jan 29 2020 15:43 utc | 10

Just to please you I promise to vote for Bernie, ok? It can't hurt. And it might look good to have done after he either loses of visits Dallas or turns into Hopium, as did the skillful Prez O.

But you maybe ought to check out Corbett on voting... It's a variety of the old army game, part of creating an illusion to quiet the marks and rubes. Rock the Vote! – #PropagandaWatch 21 minutes of fun!

Posted by: Walter | Jan 29 2020 15:50 utc | 10

VK @ 6.
I fear that there is another even more depressing explanation, namely that a great swathe of America, having learnt their history solely through Hollywood, actually genuinely believe that it was US troops who liberated Auschwitz.
You have probably seen Spielberg’s excellent TV series “Band Of Brothers”. In the penultimate episode, Easy Company stumble across a concentration camp. This particular episode is entitled, misleadingly, “Why we fight”.

The US didn’t decide to go to war to free the camps. Not many people even knew they existed in 1941. But quite possibly many viewers, entirely ignorant of European geography, believe that the camp in the film is in fact Auschwitz.

Posted by: Montreal | Jan 29 2020 15:54 utc | 11

Looked at the Coronavirus thread, the prev. open thread, did not see this article. Maybe I missed it … ?

Coronavirus Bioweapon – How China Stole Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponized It

GreatGameIndia, Jan 25 2020

Posted for info, i'm not judging this, clearly terms like ‘infiltrated’ and ‘agent’ may be apt or not -- international cooperation in these areas is practised by most and the line between science “for the good of all” and science “for nefarious purposes” is very hard, possibly impossible to draw.

I remember when Ms. Qiu and her team were thrown out of the Lab in Canada - it created a huge stir and was all quite mysterious, a big scandal. For ex, what does an MSM article like this mean?

news, CBC Manitoba, July 2019

Posted by: Noirette | Jan 29 2020 15:57 utc | 12

Erdogan is in a dead end.
- He is losing the grip on Syria so he is sending the islamist mercenaries from Edlib to Libya to fight against allies of the US, the EU, the Arabs and even Russia. It is a loose loose situation but there won't any Turkish soldiers casualties and he won't have the burden of hosting the islamist fighters.

- Claiming everyday that Turkish economy is booming won't hide that Turks are fed up with inflation, wars and the increased presence of Syrian refugees and Islamist terrorists fleeing Syria

- His relation with the Arabs, except for Qatar is sour. Even with Israel a long time ally, the relation is getting worse by the day. He is now the hated man of the middle east and his cozyness with Russia won't save him.
- His only salvation is to drink the poison and recognize Bashar al Assad as the leader of Syria and accept to pay compensation to rescue Syria's economy

Posted by: Virgile | Jan 29 2020 16:11 utc | 14

@ David J Valachovic 4

For whatever it’s worth, here are some of the websites, in no particular order, that I frequent. It is not an endorsement of my agreeing with everything they say. I never suspend my natural inclination to be skeptical. I rather try to frequent a selection of sources that represent a broad left/right spectrum. But MOST importantly they must be far removed from “power”.

For the sake of brevity, I am not listing a few other sources I visit, which further out in the left/right spectrum. MoA however remains my most favorite source :)

Elijah J. Magnier – Middle East Politics

The Grayzone | Investigative journalism on politics and empire

Indian Punchline -

RT - Breaking news, shows, podcasts

The Vineyard of the Saker | A bird's eye view of the vineyard

Strategic Culture Foundation

Sic Semper Tyrannis

The Unz Review: An Alternative Media Selection - The Unz Review

Zero Hedge | On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Jan 29 2020 16:12 utc | 15

Yemeni army overrun Sana’a: Spox and

Syria is advancing , yemeni are advancing ,.. and Bolton is advancing.. the Palestinians are happy.. the French Yellow Jackets are advancing.. something is about to give somewhere..

Trump panics at Bolton’s potential testimony at Senate impeachment trial

rial without the T , witness or testimony.. Bolton's testimony could clear trump and force impeachment to be dropped making the democraps look like they were on drugs to have indited our grand ole Trump. After all Bolton is without doubt the most honorable establishment character available. His word is law.. a gift from the gods to mankind. I would trust whatever Bolton ..____<==complete the sentence please> .

The Nasty Secret Behind Aramco, ISIS and Trump in Syria did anyone discuss this?
Not a word today about the Crash in Afghanistan? What gives?

Posted by: snake | Jan 29 2020 16:16 utc | 16

Just published overview re Libya

Posted by: Robert Snefjella | Jan 29 2020 16:19 utc | 17

It looks like Noam Chomsky has finally jumped the shark - demanding that no one votes for Greens, but must vote for whatever corporate whore the DNC crams down our throats. Really sad. People I used to respect (like Norman Solomon), just completely sold out.

Here's a link to the doc:

Open Letter to the Green Party for 2020, Noam Chomsky et al. A Reply to the Open Letter by Jack Rasmus

We are posting the Open Letter by the Green Party for 2020, followed by a response by Jack Rasmus.

Here are the first few paragraphs of Rasmus's response to Chomsky, et al:

Jack Rasmus
January 28, 2020

This past weekend a group best identified as ‘left liberal’ intellectuals posted an ‘Open Letter’ to the Green Party charging that party with being responsible for Hillary Clinton’s loss in 2016. They then declared that the Green Party’s 2020 presidential candidate, Howie Hawkins, should not run in 2020, lest the Greens become responsible for getting Trump re-elected again. Everything should be done to ensure that a Democrat Party candidate, whomever that might be, should win in 2020. That includes even Joe Biden, they say. Left liberals like themselves should simply ‘hold their noses’ and vote for Biden, if necessary, if he gets the nomination.
For someone like yours truly who has been around and seen the same strategy of ‘lesser evilism’ repeated for a half century now–with devastating consequences even when the lesser evil (aka Democrats) won the presidency–it is not surprising to read and hear the ‘left liberals’ lament once again!

The coterie signatories of the ‘open letter’ include: Noam Chomsky, Barbara Ehrenreich, Bill Fletcher, Leslie Cagan, Ron Daniels, Kathy Kelly, Norman Solomon, Cynthia Peters and Michael Albert.

Their main argument, calling for Hawkins and the Greens to retreat from the 2020 electoral field (and for the record I am not a Green party member or a member of any other party), is that Hillary lost the swing states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc. to Trump in 2016 but would have won them–and thus the electoral college vote–if only those who voted for the Greens presidential candidate, Jill Stein, in the swing states had not done so but voted instead for Hillary.

Posted by: john brewster | Jan 29 2020 16:24 utc | 18

To Noirette 13:
Or perhaps the Chinese researchers got booted because they looked too closely at what the Cdn gov't was in cahoots with the US/Deep State in terms of bio-weapons research, production and releases into populations or targeted individuals. Easy enough to fit someone up in a totally controlled information system.

Since the post 9/11 anthrax "scare" that turned out to most probably be a false flag using a stratin genetically identified as being created in a US lab, the US Deep State moved to having their bio-labs in other countries where the CIA could operate... there have been several instances of US spooks opeation openly in Canada. Armed FBI agents discovered at the Caledonia native protests, an FBI agent is the key figure in the "plan to bomb railways in the Niagara area" entrapment.

Canada is a vassal state of the US, has been an open secret since Dief killed the AVRO Arrow and NAFTA took away what little was left our economic sovereignty. Various border agreements now see US Customs agents able to detain Canadian citizens IN CANADIAN AIRPORTS. And then there's the Meng case. Ya, the True North strong and free... as if.

The Cons and Libs are equally responsible for handing over Canada to the US in all but name. A pox on all their houses.

Posted by: A P | Jan 29 2020 16:27 utc | 19


Posted by: JC | Jan 29 2020 16:28 utc | 20

Long overdue. Hopeful this will change minds


Julian Assange Must Not Be Extradited to the US and 'Must Be Released Promptly'

The parliamentary arm of Europe's largest human rights body says it is unacceptable that journalists are subjected to the misuse of anti-terrorism, public order, and national security laws. Assembly members singled out the case of Julian Assange as part of its demands for member states to do more to protect journalists and whistleblowers

The extradition of Julian Assange to the United States “must be barred” and he “must be promptly released” by UK authorities, says the Council of Europe’s (the Council) Parliamentary Assembly.The demands by the Assembly, which is made up of 327 legislatures from each of the Council's member states, form part of a five page resolution passed on 28 January entitled Threats to media freedom and journalists’ security in Europe.[.]

Posted by: Likklemore | Jan 29 2020 16:30 utc | 21

-----There are also active links to a variety of sites on the main page of this website.

Posted by: Chevrus | Jan 29 2020 16:31 utc | 22

I walked away from recommending Chomsky over several similar instances where he recently came down on the plainly wrong side of things. I now see him in the same stripe as the Guardian (UK), and The Nation.

Controlled opposition, still carrying some shred of hope that the US/ZATO can extricate itself from the corporate, Deep State and Zionist agendas that infest their politics and policies.

Posted by: A P | Jan 29 2020 16:35 utc | 23

Peter @2

My comment to Craig Murray's post:

“Epstein belonged to intelligence”

Maybe Seth Rich did too?

Doesn’t take a genius to figure out the game here.

Unless you don’t want to see it.

Rich family strangely silent about the lack of investigation. LOL.

Also: The ONLY other person that we’ve heard about that was “disturbed” enough by Sanders (sheepdog) treatment in 2016 to take action was Tulsi Gabbard (she resigned from her senior position). But she says nothing about Rich.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 29 2020 16:38 utc | 24

To Circe 10:

Gabbard is the US' only chance at a sane, rational and somewhat independent-minded POTUS. And probably the only Dem that can beat Trumpty Dumbdy. The Repugs and Dems all know this and don't care... only Deep State, Israel-approved candidates will be presented, then crowned via so many electoral dirty tricks.

Too bad that no one in the Dem party seems capable of seeing beyond the likes of the Clintons, Bidens and Bloomberg, plus their sheepdogs Sanders and Warren.

Posted by: A P | Jan 29 2020 16:45 utc | 25

That's "the World" the U.S.A. likes to propagandise... Justice & so called Human Rights always bloody compromised... Humanism has become a swearword.... hence humanlives really don't count on the "wrong side" of its paradigm... misery, hardship, poverty,injustice, prejudice, racism, tragedy and death all excusable for the greater greed and its evil of projected hegemony at all costs... and it's effecting destructively millions and millions of people all around this globe.
Colombia: 27 Social Leaders Killed in 27 days of 2020


Posted by: Ashino Wolf Sushanti | Jan 29 2020 16:54 utc | 26

I would like to take this opportunity to thank "b" and the many commenters here for the work which provides such an informative site. Thank you indeed.

I am using an huawei phone. Now and then an overlong html link has resulted in very small unreadable fonts, or very long, unreadable lines. I have overcome this, to my satisfaction, by using the yandex alpha browser. This allows a gesture to set the font size which it then maintains regardless of any hypertext misformatting. I think the yandex browser was a fork of Chrome, but I don't want to use that.

Posted by: ok Rmd | Jan 29 2020 17:02 utc | 27

“Americans Keep Putting Up Roadblocks Against Russian Troops on Key Syrian Highway”

Or, to paraphrase Adam Schiff: “The U.S. military: being petty, spoilsport pricks to the Russians over there, so we don’t have to here.”

David J Valachovic: you might find to be worth a look.

Posted by: David G | Jan 29 2020 17:06 utc | 28

A P at 20, maybe, interesting, idk.

Lancet on clinical features, which is of course what everyone worries about. (Jan 2020.)

Clinical features of patients infected with 2019 novel coronavirus in Wuhan, China

"A recent cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan, China, was caused by a novel betacoronavirus, the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). We report the epidemiological, clinical, laboratory, and radiological characteristics and treatment and clinical outcomes of these patients."


Was downtown today (city in CH) and a few ppl were wearing paper masks. First time ever here. Local scares about 20 - 15 yrs ago involved local happenings (bad flu, terrorist attack, madman who knifes tennis-playing girls..) Now billions of ppl are poised on the internet following global MSM news about threats that are not understood, .. not! the work of Gvmt., politicians, Corporations, the local boss, etc. but just …Nature or God’s will or whatever.

The paper masks reminded me of the vital role of Duct Tape during the Amerithrax matter. (As you also refd.)

CNN Feb. 2003.

….stores in the greater Washington, D.C. area reported a surge in sales of plastic sheeting, duct tape, and other emergency items. These items, Paulison said, can be helpful after a biological, chemical or radiological attack.

Posted by: Noirette | Jan 29 2020 17:07 utc | 29

As if more proof was needed of Canada's vassal state status, just traded Brit control to US control.

And after Freeland's family's Nazi-collaborator roots became known.
"The centre was a repository of local Ukrainian history, with heritage documents dating back to the purchase of the theatre in the 1960s, a collection of paintings by artists from the eastern European country and photos of graduating Ukrainian school classes dating back nearly 50 years."

It would be a safe bet there was more than just school photos in those archives.
makes ya go HHHHMMMM...

Posted by: A P | Jan 29 2020 17:07 utc | 30


It was not just Putin who visited the occupied territories and expressed support for Palestine. Of all people the heir to the British throne did.

of course his statements are, from the standpoint of the UK government 'unofficial'.

Posted by: William Cockshott | Jan 29 2020 17:12 utc | 31

Pretty cool use of tech plus albatrosses homing in on fishing ships tracking illegal fishing
Unfortunately, the researchers didn't think of what the most likely outcome will be: the illegal fishing ships shooting albatrosses.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 29 2020 17:12 utc | 32

the Left, all over the West, since the French Revolution, is the instrument of the Jew. Imagine nowadays Colossus of the Left, Chomsky, to bother to gate-keeping for the Judeo-Zionist interests within the DNC. After all, the only loyalty that matters to the "organized community", to the "collective being", is the Tribe´s.

Posted by: nietzsche1510 | Jan 29 2020 17:13 utc | 33

Sorry, link screwed up: albatross link

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 29 2020 17:13 utc | 34

I need to raise the subject of 'divide and conquer' here, as for some time it has seemed that a simplified version of middle east commentary has used Shia vs. Sunni, especially in the previous thread giving the US false map of its dream division of Iraq. Saker has an interesting opinion piece by Nasser Kandil from that contains the following observation:

"...Sayyed Muqtada was not among those who fled from Iraq. Therefore, opposition forces who came back to Iraq when the American occupation began can be criticized by those who are affiliated with the previous regime and by the Sunni commentators who have the same stances as the representatives of the previous regime; those who consider that the patriotic position against the occupation lowered the status of Sunnis in the government and gave Shias a high status. Those people can face Shia leaders, and say: “you came with the American tanks. Don’t give us a lesson in patriotism. We have fought”, because at the beginning members of the resistance were mainly Sunni. However, they cannot say this to Sayyed Muqtada. First, he didn’t come (to Iraq) on American tanks. He was in Iraq from the beginning. Second, and most importantly, he is one of the first Iraqi leaders to call for resistance. He also never had any relationship with the occupation. He was the symbol of fighting the occupation. He established the Mahdi Army with the objective of fighting the occupation. And on top of that, when the battle of Fallujah took place following the actions of the resistance, and when Americans raided the city, committed what they committed, put its people under siege and deprived them of food, drinks and electricity; no one stood with Fallujah, except for Sayyed Muqtada al-Sadr. He offered moral and financial support, and sent food supplies and aid convoys. He adopted a tough stance during the demonstrations that were held in support of Fallujah in Shia regions. Therefore, people of Fallujah and people of central Iraq in general, Sunni people, will always be grateful to him..."

There's a lot more to the piece than simply this, so I would recommend a careful reading of it.

On a completely different subject, I notice that is getting very serious about the "novel corona virus". I am no doubt completely off track, but I have started to wonder if perhaps for China this is now a case (whether intended or not) of the same positive isolating process that occurred for Russia when under extreme sanctions it was forced to rely on its own resources. Which makes the situation not, as I said in this paragraph opening sentence, 'completely different' from Iraq's need to have the US withdraw after all.

Might we not in the US itself also benefit from such resource-mindfulness? That's a vote-getter to my way of thinking.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 29 2020 17:18 utc | 35

To William Cockshutt 32: Crocodile tears, given that it was the British that occupied Palestine and it was the Brit aristocracy that gave the Zionist Movement a BIG helping hand in stealing Palestine. The Balfour Declaration, basically written by the Lord Rothschild of the day and signed by Balfour without Parliamentary approval.

Posted by: A P | Jan 29 2020 17:19 utc | 36

An interesting data point (as well as pretty good overall situation summary) for coronavirus Dr. Daniel Lucy coronavirus Q & A
This particular note is important:

How does this hypothesis explain the sharp increase in cases reported since Jan. 18?

Chinese investigators quickly began testing many patients with pneumonia in Wuhan, and beyond, using the new rapid diagnostic test that only became available in mid-January. Having, and rapidly deploying, the new rapid diagnostic test was a brilliant action to fight this epidemic.

So one reason why coronavirus confirmed cases spiked is because they started testing pneumonia patients for coronavirus on/after January 18.
The other corollary is that the Wuhan virus was likely already spreading for months before November 2019 - disguised as pneumonia.
This makes it likely that the contagion factor is lower than presently reported. Quarantine measures still need to happen, but prevention of initial exposure in an area/population is likely impossible already (as opposed to slowing of spread).

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 29 2020 17:21 utc | 37

As reflected in numerous polls and BigLie Media attacks, Sanders campaign is really beginning to roll as seen by the following articles, "'Absurd': Sanders Campaign Hits Back at AP Story Equating Bernie's Social Security Record With Biden's." "New Poll Shows Bernie Sanders With More Than Double the Support of Joe Biden in New Hampshire." And many more can be found at the parent website. Sanders stance on Occupied Palestine really makes him stand out from DNC and Trump, the latter two in reality are one in the same. This article attacks Perez's choices by telling the following truth: "Perez's nominations clearly show that the swamp seems in it to win for itself, regardless of the electoral outcome for the nation."

It's easy to be cynical about this election year, but it's hard to deny its importance. As most Presidential elections have proven during my life, they impact the global population, not just the domestic USA's. The paradigm governing the Outlaw US Empire since WW2's end must be overturned for the sake of all--even the evil ones like Pompeo and Clinton, Bolton and Biden. For that to be given a chance, Sanders must win the nomination outright via the primaries so the first ballot vote at the Convention cannot be infected by the DNC's Swamp; selecting the Veep nominee might be more problematic, however.

To allow a cynical thought: Yes, there's a chance Sanders may turn out to be Hopium a la Obama. But look at the alternatives; they are all demonstratively worse. Nor will Sanders have it easy as Congress will still contain numerous Swamp critters, although a Progressive wave is possible, except for the Senate. The Cynic says Sanders would certainly be the lesser of two evils.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 29 2020 17:29 utc | 38

"try to divorce yourself from all the history that has happened over the years"

Those are the words of Jared Kushner spoken during an interview with CNN. He was making a terrible attempt to justify his Frankenstein Deal of the Century and I wonder how many people could watch the whole 6 minute interview all at once without taking a break to absorb what he said and to wonder how in the world could he be considered intelligent?

"Jared Kushner, senior adviser to the President, says the White House's Middle East plan is "a great deal" and if Palestinians reject it, “they’re going to screw up another opportunity, like they’ve screwed up every other opportunity that they’ve ever had in their existence.”

For people who use history as the absolute basis for their territorial claims and all subsequent enforcement actions, this interview is absolutely mind boggling. He isn't even honest enough to answer the interviewers questions choosing instead to spew talking points.

Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 17:31 utc | 39

I'll be going to my local Iowa dem caucus next Monday to be counted for Andrew Yang. Tulsi Gabbard if Yang is not viable. If she is not viable either, I leave the premises early. In any case I spend time every day campaigning for a just cap on personal fortunes as that is the issue all other issues spring from. Will vote Green in fall if neither Yang or Gabbard is the dem candidate. Caucused for Sanders last time: fool me once...

Hope it's true about the CIA guy being on that downed plane!! One down, so many to go...

A just cap on personal fortunes is the Mother of all issues. 22,000 children die each day due to poverty. 10,000 humans die each day from lack of healthcare. Perfectly preventable deaths on a planet that has never been richer. A problem everyone refuses to SEE never gets fixed.

Pity poor Humanity; so blind, so suffering, so needlessly.

Posted by: Phryne's frock | Jan 29 2020 17:32 utc | 40

David J Valachovic #4
smoothiex12. blogspot. com .is Andrei Martyanov`s blogsite
english. iswnews. com -a news site
ephsilontheory. com -is a economy "news site"
thegreatrecession. info -also economy site
oftwominds. com -musings from Charles Hugh Smith
stalkerzone. info

i visit these sites more then 3 times a week.

Posted by: Per/Norway | Jan 29 2020 17:32 utc | 41

The good news: there's a way to see what activity FB is tracking when you're not actually logged into FB: Off Facebook activity
The bad news is you need to have an FB account to use it.
All the people who don't, can't see what FB is tracking them for.
This "off-FB" activity comes from 3rd party apps or other data inputs.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 29 2020 17:33 utc | 42

What was the Yemeni announcement of an attack on SA energy assets about? Did they miss or is something else going on?

Posted by: casey | Jan 29 2020 17:55 utc | 43

karlof1 @39:

Yes, there's a chance Sanders may turn out to be Hopium a la Obama. But look at the alternatives; they are all demonstratively worse.... Sanders would certainly be the lesser of two evils.

This 'logic' seems so reasonable - until one comes to understand the big picture.

Clearly the establishment want you to believe that you have a choice so ... Democracy Works! But thus far, democracy seems to work mostly for the EMPIRE FIRST capitalist establishment.

This time it's different? LMFAO.

If Sanders were really for socialism and the people, he would've created a Movement. He didn't. All he really did was sheepdog progressives into the Democratic Party. "Enough with your damn emails!"


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Caitlin Johnstone destroys the "Democracy Works!" propaganda that pops up in every political discussion at moa and elsewhere with this simple observation:

It doesn't matter which establishment team carries the ball down the court for the establishment.

Whether it's minorities that get fondled under the table (figuratively speaking) by a 'Third-Way' Democratic President (aka Obama) or White Nationalists that get flattered by a Republican President (Trump), the result is the same: Zionist-inspired EMPIRE FIRST polices that advance establishment interests.

Participating in the rigged electoral process does nothing but give legitimacy to that process. That's why "Democracy Works!" propagandists try so hard to get you emotionally engaged in the farce. It's a shell game and YOU and your friends and neighbors are the stoopid mark that just can't bring him/herself to walk away from the table.

Until it all ends in tears.

The Answer: Form and join Movements. DEMAND democracy; Constitutional Rights; Civil Rights; Human Rights; accountability; transparency; economic fairness; peace-oriented foreign policy; environmental safeguards; etc.

There's no pill or app or easy out. Anyone that tells you that an establishment-approved candidate will defend your interests via a simple vote is lying. The fix is in. Every. Damn. Time.

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The Establishment Doesn’t Fear Trump, And It Doesn’t Fear Bernie. It Fears You.

The disturbing fact of the matter is that if you ignore election dates and just look at the numbers and raw data of US government behavior over the years, you can’t really tell who is president or which political party is in power at any given point in time.

. . .

It is inevitable that such a permanent second government would exist in the current iteration of the United States, if you think about it. It’s impossible to have a globe-spanning empire of the sort America now has without long-term plans spanning years or decades for securing control of world resources, undermining rivals, securing more compliant allies, and ensuring military and economic hegemony.

. . .

You wouldn’t know it from reading the billionaire media, but the Yellow Vests protests in France are still going on and have remained widespread for more than a year now. This lack of coverage is partially due to the fact that establishment narrative managers are responsible for conveying the idea that the only governments whose citizens dislike them are those which haven’t been absorbed into the imperial blob like China and Iran. But it’s also because the propagandists don’t want us getting any ideas.

... If enough people decide that the status quo isn’t working for them and begin rising up to force it to change, there’s not really anything the establishment can do to stop them. Right now the only thing keeping people from rising up in this way is the fact that they’ve been successfully propagandized not to, and the propagandists intend to keep it that way.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 29 2020 18:01 utc | 44

nietzsche1510 | Jan 29 2020 17:13 utc | 34

There is nothing like "the Jew" on earth,stupid! about "the fool" we may discuss.

Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 29 2020 18:06 utc | 45

A P@26

Quit with the Sanders is a sheepdog you Trump sheepdog! If you have no VIABLE CANDIDATE to suggest get out of the way!

@19 john brewster

FYI, Noam Chomsky endorsed Bernie Sanders, and until it's certain whether the Dems will sabotage his nomination...NO THIRD PARTY.

This is THE most critical election of this Century! Right now, Bernie is in an optimum position to win this and if people come out in droves for him already in the primaries, then the Establishment will be in a bad position to sabotage his Nomination and crown someone else. Last time Bernie's wins were too close to Hillary's, so the Party got away with it. This time Bernie must run away with a majority of states. The establishment would not dare steal the nomination from him with a decisive win in the primaries!

Anyone know what the deadline is for registering a political party to qualify in 2020 election, in case they dare sabotage his nomination?

Posted by: Circe | Jan 29 2020 18:18 utc | 46

>If Sanders were really for socialism and the people,
>he would've created a Movement. He didn't.

This times a hundred.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jan 29 2020 18:23 utc | 47

Re: candidates in the U.S. and various comments above.

Tulsi recently revealed why no anti-Establishment candidate can win. Fourteen states have solely electronic ballots with no paper trail to confirm the electronic count. As Tim Canova of Florida showed, even with paper ballots, rather than ballot-box stuffing, the Clinton wing simply "disappears" boxes filled with paper ballots.

As for Chomsky, et al calling for no Green candidate, well, that leaves Greens or disaffected voters free to vote for whatever third-party candidate is on their local ballot or not voting for anyone. Anyone brave enough to think independently enough to vote third party is not going to be shepherded into voting for Biden or some other annointed candidate.

Posted by: Zee | Jan 29 2020 18:29 utc | 48

Yesterday, there was an incomplete discussion about Iran's relations with the Taliban. Today we are informed that Iran's invited Taliban to Tehran to discuss the ongoing peace talks. In any realistic stakeholder/patriotic Afghan government to be formed upon the exiting of NATO forces, the Taliban will be present, a reality that even Russia has accepted, although it still designates Taliban as a terrorist organization despite their visiting Moscow.

On Iraq, Magnier reports this development:

"Mohamad Toufiq Allawi has strong chances to be nominated as the new Prime Minister of #Iraq. He has accepted to schedule the #US withdrawal from the country. A good man I knew years ago when he was a communication Minister. Let us see if he is accepted in the next 2 days."

Please note that some Liberals within the Outlaw US Empire don't know what the hell they're talking about. Marshall Auerback:

"Highly implausible theory. The Taliban represents an extreme form of Sunni theology and they consider the Shiites to be apostates. Iran willingly assisted US in Afghanistan post 9/11 as they viewed the Taliban regime as a mortal enemy. Correlation does not mean causation."

And there's another tanker on fire nearby UAE.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 29 2020 18:35 utc | 49

@karlof1 #39
I believe Sanders could beat Trump - although it is much less obvious he will.
The issue is that the DNCC, HRC and most of the Democrat party oligarchy hates and fears him, as do the big money corporate and billionaire funders.
That's why Bloomberg is there - Warren has failed, so Bloomberg has injected himself as an alternative if Biden can't keep his primary lead.
In particular, I'm seeing more and more talk about the Democrat pick for President going down to a brokered convention. Would Sanders win in that scenario? It isn't as locked in as the superdelegates of 2016, but I'd be shocked if the DNCC/HRC machine hasn't bought all it can there.

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 29 2020 18:39 utc | 50

Hi b,

I would like to hear your thoughts and insights on what Yves Smith of Naked Capitalism has to say about Consortium News (CN) and its libel suit against Canada’s Communications Security Establishment (CSE) and a major Canadian television network, Global News for falsely reporting that CN was “part of a cyber-influence campaign directed by Russia.”

To me, Yves seems to suggest that because Robert Parry, the Late Founder and Editor of Consortium News, used a phony source from a pro-Russian news & views site called “the Strategic Culture Foundation” in order to build a case about how Canada is colluding with anti-Russian factions in Ukraine explicitly to smear and demonize Russia, Consortium News and everyone who works there may indeed be paid stooges for the Russian government.

Perhaps this is why I find myself increasingly distancing myself from Naked Capitalism and everyone who post there. I really think that more and more people there are starting to fall for various forms of anti-Russian related nonsense. Regardless, hearing your take on this would help me draw a more educated, more sensible conclusion about it.

Posted by: Cynthia | Jan 29 2020 18:41 utc | 51

Trailer Trash @49--

Then what do you call the millions who follow Sanders? Groupies? All the money he's raised consists of small donors--real people, not PACS or corporations. Oh, and did you see the ruling on corporate donations to political campaigns that was just decided In Seattle's favor? Since foreigners are barred from donating money to US political campaigns and corporations are partially owned by foreigners, corporations are barred from making political donations. That just needs to be spread nationwide by the movement that already exists to ban corporate influence on elections that just also happens to be part of Sanders Movement.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 29 2020 18:45 utc | 52

JRabbit said: "If Sanders were really for socialism and the people, he would've created a Movement. He didn't."

Yes. He had the numbers AND he had the momentum like nobody else since Henry George (who once was the second most-famous man in usa and had the second-largest funeral ever back then)

Sanders all along promised his supporters he'd take the fight for single payer health insurance to the convention floor. He folded on that promise VOLUNTARILY. No one campaigned harder for Killary than Sanders did.

my prediction is crooked Biden is the nominee and Sanders will again campaign the hardest for yet another ziorat. Trump ripped the veil off zio-firster gov in amurdica absurdica. sanders gonna help joe try to put it back on.

I have no hope for any good outcome while the diabolically stupid, self-harming idea to allow unlimited personal fortunes is still tolerated on this pretty planet. Only going to caucus because *somebody* will sit in the whitehouse and I'd prefer it be Yang.

Posted by: Phryne's frock | Jan 29 2020 18:49 utc | 53

There are real risks of a Kessler Syndrome in the next years, and this could change the way we are accustomed to live now, specially the advanced armies

More about the Kessler Syndrome:

Elon Musk's Starlink will accelerate the process

Posted by: DFC | Jan 29 2020 18:54 utc | 54

Posted by: vk | Jan 29 2020 14:52 utc | 6

The German weekly Der Spiegel “mistakenly” said the US Army liberated the notorious Auschwitz death camp. They have company in erasing the Soviet Union’s role in ending the Holocaust from WWII history, too: the White House.

Der Spiegel published a graphic on social media platforms last week saying the “amerikanischen Armee” (US Army) was the one that liberated Auschwitz, the largest Nazi death camp.

Posted by: Mao | Jan 29 2020 18:56 utc | 55

Bernie Sanders: 10 Years Fighting Citizens United

"You can’t take on a corrupt system if you take its money."

Overturn Citizens United

"Sen. Bernie Sanders told a Senate panel that a constitutional amendment is needed to undo the Supreme Court ruling that let corporations and wealthy individu..."

"And some Republicans said they simply don't trust Bolton's word. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky called Bolton "disgruntled"' and seeking to make money off his time at the White house."

Some banter here about Sanders not starting a movement. Sanders movement might be compared to Ron Paul's efforts in a number of ways. Ron's movement died yesterday when his prodigy repeated the 'Official trump propaganda line'. Written in crayon, on the back of a napkin.

Why should socialism be reserved for America's Corporations, Wall St, the Security apparatus and the spiders web of cronies attached to the host? Even Stockman admitted 'trickle down' was just a slogan and trump chortled on video about how he conned the rubes with his drain the swamp schtick.

Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 19:04 utc | 56

Sanders seems to be an issue with our wingpawn friends, and with the Dem elite.
Clinton,and the elite, would rather have Trump than Sanders.
His success is bothering our wingpawn friends, and their corporate whores.
We shall see- reformist politics are in the rear view mirror.

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Jan 29 2020 19:09 utc | 57

Cynthia @ 53 is in no way a pro-Russian site. It is the property of Phil Giraldi. His bio is well known and there is no possible construction of the man or a lifetime of work that would make him a Russophile. I don't even like the guy but will defend him from that nonsense. You saw through part of the scam, now go back through the steps and begin from assumption that every piece of the story is entirely false until proven otherwise.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 29 2020 19:13 utc | 58


Scottish historian and Atlantist Niall Ferguson writes that Trump must split up Putin and Xi.

Donald Trump must split up Putin and Xi, the new odd couple

The US can win the Second Cold War only by drawing apart the Russian and Chinese leaders

Cold wars make for odd couples. When Joseph Stalin met Mao Tse-tung in Moscow in December 1949, it wasn’t exactly a bromance. “I have only three tasks here,” Mao complained when the Soviet leader paid him next to no attention. “The first is to eat, the second is to sleep, the third is to shit!”

The article was also parodied by Anti-Empire. I wrote this in response:

People on the hard Left see the Sino-Soviet split as a great tragedy. A combined Soviet-Chinese Communist block would have beaten and destroyed Capitalism for good.

But what is the intention in Moscow and Beijing was not to fight an existential WW3 with the West? What if the ultimate aim was peaceful coexistence?

The Sino-Soviet split was essential in enabling both US-Soviet detente and the good Chinese-American relations they still enjoy today. Kissinger saw the opening in 1970, remember "ping-pong diplomacy."

I am not going as far as to suggest that the Sino-Soviet split was an intentional Communist ruse or plan. But the forces of history dictated that the split was more beneficial to both countries than any "strategic partnership". The Soviet Union and China combined would have been too powerful for Capitalism to coexist with, at least not peacefully.

In the split the Soviet Union and China sacrificed some of their core interests. Russia and China are natural partners in technology and trade. They have a common interest in securing the Eurasian landmass from external destabilization. Russia is actually the best thing to ever happen to China. Before gaining Russia as its northern neighbor China spent three millennia fighting of barbarian invasions from the north.

The geopolitical situation today is totally reversed from the days of the Cold War. The United States today is too powerful for any form of democracy or sovereignty to coexist on the same planet. A Russian Chinese strategic partnership is essential for a peaceful multipolar world.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 29 2020 19:16 utc | 59

@57 Mao

Over here in the UK it is nearly as bad with the BBC claiming on TV that the Soviet Army liberated Auschwitz. Of course the Soviet Army was formed in 1946 after the war from the Red Army. So either the BBC are claiming that the Soviet Union had time travel technology or are as illustrated on the BBCs own website they are just flat out lying and are too stupid to be able to Memory Hole their own reporting to the contrary.

Posted by: TJ | Jan 29 2020 19:16 utc | 60

Here's something you don't see everyday: French Cops Beating the Hell Out of Firefighters

The cops are really going at it with their clubs. Civil unrest in France doesn't seem to be fading out. I wonder how much longer such an unstable situation will continue. Sooner or later, the state always resorts to the level of violence needed to compel compliance or death.

For the state, either outcome is victory.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jan 29 2020 19:19 utc | 61

Time for that non-existent edit button. Just checked original at Naked Capitalism, where I'd not normally go, and there are two organizations using the Stategic Culture name. Oh well. Still all sounds fishy.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 29 2020 19:20 utc | 62

The Saker has an article that links to Byron King's conjecture regarding the Iranian missile attack on the U.S. base(s) in Iraq. I had never heard of him-- apparently he's a geologist, former U.S. military (Navy)but I was impressed with his article... worth a look... I invite your opinions on it.

Posted by: migueljose | Jan 29 2020 19:21 utc | 63

TJ @62:

You really think that’s nearly as bad? On a list of the BBC’s many sins, I’d place that at the end, or possibly later.

Posted by: David G | Jan 29 2020 19:26 utc | 64

Good pic and interesting speakers

Posted by: Mina | Jan 29 2020 19:30 utc | 65

The idea that there will be a voting solution to what ails the US is just laughable. Citizens United assured that will never happen. Campaign finance was an issue that should have been nailed down in the 80's via Constitutional Amendment. Didn't happen.
Now the status quo is criminals like Adelson, Singer, Marcuse et al buy specific influence from candidates. That explains Bolton and the tag-team of Pomparse and his bottom, Esper.

Clearly, Trump calculated he couldn't rule without the support of right-wing Jews and neocons. Considering the impeachment begin before Trump took office, I'm guessing he made a wise decision; the left-wing Jews in the D party have viciously attacked everything he's tried to do.
Until an honest discussion begins about what really ails America, I don't expect to see much of anything that resembles reality in any media.
Fact: America has a hostile elite.
No country can sustain treason from within. Policies that favor Israel are isolating America from all other powers.

The idea that electing Sanders would solve anything is just laughable. The man has a campaign staffed by violent revolutionaries who want gulags. The last thing America needs right now is a revolution. It needs thoughtful reform, particularly in foreign policy where it is incurring a debt burden that will enslave our great-grandchildren or will have to be repudiated.

Posted by: dorje | Jan 29 2020 19:33 utc | 66

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jan 29 2020 19:16 utc | 61

The split may have occurred simply due to the personalities involved and both Stalin and Mao were known for their mistrust bordering on crippling paranoia.

The US neo brain trust, (ugly arrogant Americans and dual citizens with an agenda) drove Russia and China into each other's arms with their putsch in Ukraine. On that particular aspect of the Great Game I would quote a wise old Swahili Chief; "When Elephants fight, it's the grass that suffers most."

Americans, or rather it's dual citizen cabal are a house divided even on which group gets the most plunder from the poor Ukrainian people. They were better off with the Russian mob from an income and expenses pov.

Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 19:39 utc | 68

Cynthia @53

And my own at 60 and 64. So just devoted too much time trying to parse Yves Smith. Who posits a Strategic Culture Foundation in Moscow and then conflates that supposed entity with Phil Giraldi's place repeatedly. At WikiSpooks they will tell you that Giraldi's place is based in Moscow. Just rubbish. Yves is committing exactly the sort of deception she accuses Robert Parry of indulging in. And likely devoted less research to a published article than I just gave to a comment.

Don't believe everything you read.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jan 29 2020 19:42 utc | 69

Bussines Insider, Apr 28, 2018:

If there's one thing that we know from history, it's that a deadly new disease will arise and spread around the globe.

That could happen easily within the next decade. And as Bill Gates told listeners on Friday at a discussion about epidemics hosted by the Massachusetts Medical Society and the New England Journal of Medicine, we're not ready.

Gates acknowledged that he's usually the optimist in the room, reminding people that we're lifting children out of poverty around the globe and getting better at eliminating diseases like polio and malaria.

But "there's one area though where the world isn't making much progress," Gates said, "and that's pandemic preparedness."

The likelihood that such a disease will appear continues to rise. New pathogens emerge all the time as the world population increases and humanity encroaches on wild environments. It's becoming easier and easier for individual people or small groups to create weaponized diseases that could spread like wildfire around the globe.

Simulation: Global Flu Pandemic

In the meantime:

Influenza spreads around the world in yearly outbreaks, resulting in about three to five million cases of severe illness and about 290,000 to 650,000 deaths.

Posted by: Mao | Jan 29 2020 19:43 utc | 70

>Then what do you call the millions who follow Sanders?

Political circus attendees. After the tents are folded and the elephant poop is swept up, what will be left?

Policies change when the social costs exceed the perceived benefits of existing policies. I see little to no effort to raise the social costs, unlike France where ordinary workers are being killed and severely injured but refuse to be quiet. Where is the civil disobedience? Where is the direct action?

Uncle Sam is preparing to completely smash Iran (and much more) and in the US people are handing out literature for politicians...

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jan 29 2020 19:43 utc | 71

Posted by: c1ue | Jan 29 2020 17:33 utc | 43

Thanks for that... sadly the "off_facebook_activity" page no longer exists, or I'm blocked from accessing it

> "The page you requested was not found"

Well, that didn't last long...

Posted by: xLemming | Jan 29 2020 19:43 utc | 72

"The man has a campaign staffed by violent revolutionaries who want gulags. The last thing America needs right now is a revolution. It needs thoughtful reform, particularly in foreign policy where it is incurring a debt burden that will enslave our great-grandchildren or will have to be repudiated."

Posted by: dorje | Jan 29 2020 19:33 utc | 68

Oh sir you go too far. Trump is the one who coddles the violent far right and their penchant for owning military type weapons so they can march to and fro pretending they are with Washington in the Great Revolutionary War. Bad ass fellows with beer bellies.

Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 19:47 utc | 73

dorje #68: "The idea that there will be a voting solution to what ails the US is just laughable."

The most salient symptom of America's political dysfunction is the lack of discussion surrounding political reform. That the debates are controlled by the commercial networks and not a public organization; gerrymandering; campaign finance donations and Citizen's United; the electoral college -- none of these part of the national conversation or even brought up by even the most fringe candidates.

Internally there is no will or capacity to change. It will take something catastrophic like another financial crisis, for any possibility of overhauling things. As it is, we are just lying to ourselves to think that voting changes anything.

Posted by: occupatio | Jan 29 2020 19:47 utc | 74

@ 18 robert snefjella... good article.. thank you.... has this quote from your article ever been confirmed in any way?
"in his book The Other Side of Deception, that in 1986 the Israelis surreptitiously set up a transmitter near Tripoli in Libya and used this device, called Trojan, to transmit false terrorism messages. The Americans were duped into thinking that they were listening in on Libyan terrorism plots. A terrorist attack in Berlin was duly blamed on Libya, and ‘the world’s policeman’, at that time led by acting United States President Ronald Reagan, ‘took action’."

@ 25 jackrabbit.. i asked larry johnson over at sst in his latest article on this and he says 'very unlikely that he was an intel asset'...

@ 39 karlof1 quote "... Yes, there's a chance Sanders may turn out to be Hopium a la Obama. But look at the alternatives;"... this seems to be the problem - no good options, so people are forced to make the least bad option... quite the system this is..

@ 53 cynthia... canada seems to be spending a good amount on the russia propaganda this one more of their ways?

Posted by: james | Jan 29 2020 19:48 utc | 75

There are massive strikes in France today against the Macron regime. Here are yesterday’s street battles between the French military police/CRS (created by the Vichy regime in 1943) and thousands of professional firefighters. The firefighters are highly respected by the French people suggesting that the regime is collapsing.

Posted by: Krollchem | Jan 29 2020 19:49 utc | 76

I have often referred to "the old army game". After, or during, the US "Civil War" (actually the Northern War of Aggression, but that's another tale) a category of con-games that became popularly known under that rubric, "the old army game". Any game based on deception that attempts to fleece the mark is the old army game.

It makes it harder to con a mark if he knows about the game, the con, not impossible, but more difficult. This is what, in part, is happening @ MoA, the exposure of con games, deceptions.

But it may be fun, and helpful, to watch the movie. W C Fields and the beautiful forgotten star, Carrol Dempster.

see YT "Sally of the Sawdust film 1925 Full movie"

also, but far less useful> "the old army game" (YT) cartoons and other stuff...

However the Dempster/Fields film cannot be properly understood out of it's time in US History. Largely this is because the traveling shows, carnivals, circuses, and snake oil drummers and so forth were, in those days, understood to offer, inter alia, whores. The young ladies on a traveling show were assumed to be available at a negotiated price. The cops took a piece, of it, and a piece of the money.

Naturally a "virgin maiden" like Sally would be a valuable "commodity".

They clean Sally up and make her respectable for "Mrs Grundy" - but the more sophisticated adult men saw it differently, saw Fields as her pimp, and the pair as a confidence team that plays, successfully, the old army game on a wealthy couple - who themselves are rich because of real-estate speculation...a confidence team of pimp and whore working the game on another team, cons conning cons... The film says everything about the foundational principles of the incipient empire.

Which foundation is easily traced back to the "founding fathers" who expropriated Red Indian lands by force, or what ever was expedient, and then sold the swag to suckers.

Dempster? I'm sure she was a nice lady. She married and retired - married a "stock-broker", who had soft hands, I'm sure. So the film story actually became "the old army game", a game of skill, and science. Repeat - game of skill, and science. W C probably gave her pointers about the game, as she was very young. His background was well founded in the game...his first job was as a "drowner" to attrack crouds, so they might be fleeced faster.

I suspect that European and Asian persons would not know this "secret" US civil history, and thus misunderstand the movie - but perhaps not.

Burroughs recognized the fundamental nature of the US as a vast con-job. And made a warning "Hustlers of the world beware the one mark you cannot beat, the mark inside."

Of course the Empire, is now in zuswang, because Empire has run up against the mark inside, the Empire itself.


Posted by: Walter | Jan 29 2020 19:50 utc | 77

@ 43 c1ue /@74 xlemming... regarding that link, my friend says this - "yeah, if you don't log out of facebook as soon as you're finished using it then it basically watches everything else you do on your browser." so there you have it.. creepy marketing is becoming industry standard..

Posted by: james | Jan 29 2020 20:00 utc | 78

@4 David J Valachovic

A few websites that I would recommend -

The Duran

The Duran on Youtube, especially for Alexander Mercouris who having been a lawyer puts in the time to go through legal documents e.g. Russiagate, UkraineGate, Trump impeachment etc and pulls out the really important legal points rather than the 'talking points' you get on the MSM-

Tom Luongo

Tom Luongo on Youtube, he does swear, but his commentary is always thought provoking, even when he is wrong

If anyone is interested in UK news that consistently falls through the cracks in the MSM there is UK Column. Though they do cover international news as well, e.g. having Vanessa Beeley on discussing Syria and Dilyana Gayandzhieva on arms trafficking etc.

Craig Murray, as long as he isn't whinging on about Scottish independence or Brexit

ZeroHedge is a decent aggregator, sadly it's not the hive of financial news / commentary it once was, though they still have something interesting on their twitter feed occasionally.

Posted by: TJ | Jan 29 2020 20:05 utc | 79

@Posted by: john brewster | Jan 29 2020 16:24 utc | 19

Noam Chumpsky is a "lesser eviler" and Dems and Greens are to even support Joe Biden......!

What a laugh.

(I am a Green voter, by the way.)

I remember when Noam C. came out in support of the official version of 9/11, that was
way over the top. After this episode I won't even bother getting perturbed with him.

Lesser Evilers have told the DNC that they will get their support no matter what.
The Democratic Party can pull any nonsense they want and people will still vote
for them. Why should the Democratic Party listen to the voters when it doesn't matter
what they do? Guess what? They don't.
And where did it all lead? Down and down until it finally reached WWIII Hillary. Lesser Eviler
Dems finally found themselves voting for WWIII. I mean wtf.

Keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result, Noam.

Posted by: librul | Jan 29 2020 20:11 utc | 80

Whitney Webb has an interesting piece on the effort to blame upcoming 2020 election mayhem on Putin-Xi and Co., while it will actually come via Unit 8200 (oops, Cybereason):

"While the narrative in place has already laid the blame at the feet of U.S. rival states China, Russia and Iran, these very technologies are instead dominated by companies that are tied to the very same intelligence agencies as Cybereason, specifically Israeli military intelligence."

Posted by: casey | Jan 29 2020 20:14 utc | 81

james @77: i asked larry johnson over at sst ... he says 'very unlikely ...

LOL. Should we consider that answer to be confirming?

Larry didn't say "maybe", or "that's an interesting theory", or simply "I don't know". He said, essentially, "drop it" - but in a nice and respectful way.

Well ...

1) ... it's designed to look "very unlikely", isn't it?

Larry hasn't even tried to address:

- the strange behavior of the Rich family;

- how neatly the "hack"/"leak" dovetailed into Russiagate's McCarthyism;

- the nonsensical anger of politically-savvy Jewish guy - BOTH Parties are Zionist, and the progressive community was well aware of the claim that Sanders was merely a sheepdog - why would anyone risk their career over a slight to Sanders?

2) ... Larry's being somewhat truthful in that Rich is "very unlikely" to be a USA intelligence asset for the simple reason that CIA can't operate in USA.

For domestic ops CIA outsources to MI6 and Mossad.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 29 2020 20:16 utc | 82

james @80:

if you don't log out of facebook as soon as you're finished ... it basically watches everything else you do on your browser

I think Google and some others do the same.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 29 2020 20:18 utc | 83

@4 David J Valachovic

A few websites that I would recommend -

Posted by: TJ | Jan 29 2020 20:05 utc | 81

You won't find that site in B's recommended reading list, and for good reasons.

If you are a supporter of everything trump, the scams, the shams, the propaganda, the lies, the distortions, the cultism, the on staff troll brigade, and the naked aggression of the foremost ugly American, by all means visit the Bulgarians site to fill your belly with ...garbage.

Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 20:23 utc | 84

Walter | Jan 29 2020 19:50 utc | 79
re Sally of the Sawdust film 1925 Full movie

Thanks; I'm on it. Did not know the background.

Posted by: chuteh | Jan 29 2020 20:29 utc | 85

Posted by: paul | Jan 29 2020 15:34 utc | 8

Putin did have the guts to include Palestine and Abbas while visiting Israel the other day, so there is some hope that he will find a way to do the right thing.

Russian President Vladimir Putin replaces the dropped cap of a Palestinian honor guardsman while entering a meeting with Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas, Thursday, January 23, in the West Bank's Bethlehem to discuss bilateral relations.

Posted by: Mao | Jan 29 2020 20:33 utc | 86

Posted by: migueljose | Jan 29 2020 19:21 utc | 65

It seems like a reasonable theory, I don't want to dispute it, but it causes me to wonder where all these injured soldiers ("brain trauma") came from if those missiles were somewhat disarmed?

The "brain trauma" diagnosis for all of them also causes me to wonder how they all came to get that specific problem? Various ideas come to mind, but none I'm inclined to speculate about.

A lot of airplanes going down these days too ...

Posted by: Bemildred | Jan 29 2020 20:34 utc | 87

chuteh | Jan 29 2020 20:29 utc | 87

Glad to hear it, Friend. You are welcome.

Posted by: Walter | Jan 29 2020 20:36 utc | 88

@86 Bubbles

There is plenty on ZH that has nothing to do with Trump, right now it's the Fed, Coronavirus, oil tanker burning, WHO admitting they are morons, US home sales, Boeing, Carlos Ghosn, French Firefighters fighting the Police, Portugal's Drug Decriminalization, NewsGuard, Hypersonic Weapons etc etc etc.

Posted by: TJ | Jan 29 2020 20:42 utc | 89

Comments on the latest CBO estimations of US Debt?

Posted by: Passer by | Jan 29 2020 20:42 utc | 90

@ 84 jr... run it by him a different way and see how he responds!

regarding google - that is like snoop central.. anyone who using google deserves what they get - spying 24-7...that's a fact..

Posted by: james | Jan 29 2020 20:46 utc | 91

pat lang in an act of benevolence seems to be letting me post at ssr... those intp folks are tricky!

Posted by: james | Jan 29 2020 20:47 utc | 92

There is plenty on ZH that has nothing to do with Trump, right now it's the Fed, Coronavirus, oil tanker burning, WHO admitting they are morons, US home sales, Boeing, Carlos Ghosn, French Firefighters fighting the Police, Portugal's Drug Decriminalization, NewsGuard, Hypersonic Weapons etc etc etc.

Posted by: TJ | Jan 29 2020 20:42 utc | 91

That's just distraction to appear to be a legit source for Alt News seekers. See who the rich bulgarian never criticizes and you might get a clue.

If that doesn't do it take their long standing Venezuela bashing into account until the independents and sites like Grayzone exposed ZH was backing the same old uniparty Regime Change agenda. Then the Bulgarian flip flopped like trump does so often. The bullish anti Venezuela campaign got toned down real fast.

Their latest hobby horse is Tesla..Because why? Musk is the devil incarnate or sumthin? But the Donald, why he's the man, America's Saviour! The Orange Jesus according to...the Bulgarian, and his Legion of in house trolls.

Bubbles been around a while and a 2nd rate propaganda outfit doesn't impress me much.

Posted by: Bubbles | Jan 29 2020 20:56 utc | 93

Walter @79--

The modernized version was The Sting, which in its own unique way also points the finger at the ultimate Snake Oil repository--Hollywood--and also New York-based media & entertainment, which is where Hollywood sprang from. Recall that great tune Madison Avenue Man and the entire corporate propaganda industry known as advertising. They're determined to reduce the world to a pop-up ad.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 29 2020 21:01 utc | 94

james @93

A couple of months ago pl had a conniption about a comment I made that mused that it was likely that Trump was selected (as a Nationalist to counter Russia and China) instead of elected and that "Russiagate" was a strategic ruse carried on by a 'Deep State' that is much more than just a few bad apples against Trump (as portrayed in right-leaning media and blogs).

I doubt I can post there any more. And I don't care to.


Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 29 2020 21:03 utc | 95

The value of Sanders' campaigning for president lies not in his being a savior for all us little folks if he gets elected. That certainly is not why I support him anyway.

The United States has a long way to go to climb down from being hysterically psychotic, and even after we get the hysteria under control we still have a long way to go before we can even begin to get this train wreck sorted out. There are many, many steps we must take to avoid the coming Dark Ages, and getting Sanders (or someone like Sanders) elected in the US is just one of those steps, and not nearly even the biggest one.

It doesn't much matter if Sanders is sheepdogging for the establishment, or if he plans to sandbag efforts at change. What matters is that Sanders' campaign is opening up a whole range of discourse for the American public that has been verboten for generations. This is the true value of Sanders presidential campaign.

Once a sufficiently large portion of the US population gets past the mental blocks installed by corporate mass media that prevent them from even contemplating the one course of action that can save them, then we can start getting stuff done. Sanders' campaign is getting us there.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jan 29 2020 21:04 utc | 96

@David J Valachovic #4

My additions to the recommendations above:
4. (in Russian; machine translation) — Eurasian news

Posted by: S | Jan 29 2020 21:07 utc | 97

Posted by: james | Jan 29 2020 19:48 utc | 77

Well James, based on several factors, I think that Victor Ostrovsky on this issue is a credible source. That includes a private consideration.

He describes in detail the Israeli setting up and deployment of the Trojan transmitter, and points out that other countries, notably the French and Spaniards, were not as gullible as the Americans, and considered the sudden burst of 'Libyan' terrorism plans highly suspicious, taking into account that the Libyans had previously been extremely careful about anything of that sort. The French and Spanish reasoned that the Libyans didn't do it. Ostrovsky does state that it is a mystery to him who actually carried out the bombing in Berlin. Many other details are in his book The Other Side of Deception.

But I also think that Reagan and the Americans would have salivated eagerly over any mildly plausible excuse to do harm to Libya, and given the short supply of normal sane reticence and common sense and common decency, at the top in the US, the Americans 'leapt into revenge mode' via the phony evidence. It's possible some Americans involved pointed out that the evidence was fishy. But that's just me speculating, and kindof hoping, that sometimes there might be the odd adult in the room....

Posted by: Robert Snefjella | Jan 29 2020 21:07 utc | 98

@95 Bubbles

Then I plead guilty to being distracted with the stuff that is verifiably true rather than the obvious political nonsense, you might well accuse me of having the ability to think critically, which I know these days is taken as a dangerous Thought Crime!

TJ AKA Numero Uno Dangerous Thought Criminal since 1969

Posted by: TJ | Jan 29 2020 21:16 utc | 99

Saraqib may fall by morning! The tweet's already an hour old and had SAA just 4k from its current objective. Some terrorist tweets advocate retreating in the face of the very rapid advance by the renamed yet still renowned Tiger Forces. It's entirely possible Idlib town could be reached by the end of tomorrow. This map depicts the massive cauldron being formed based on the rapid advance.

It will be quite the spectacle when the terrorists reach the Turkish border but are denied entry and then try to fight there way through.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 29 2020 21:22 utc | 100

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