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January 16, 2020

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Walter 189

Yes.

Here's a timeline on....

Apr, 1997
William Cohen , the FUKUS SOO no less,
hinted at the development of 'ethnic specific bioweapon', Ebola,amongst
other exotic project like HAARP.
[Freudian slip ?]

barely two months later,
JUn 1997,
'ethnic specific bioweapon' was listed as a major proj of the
PNAC road map.
[to make USA great again, sounds familiar ??]

There followed a sudden rash of mysterious deaths from 2001-2003,
dozens of defence scientists including many microbiologists specialised
in bioweapons, specifically DNA manipulation, were murdered or
died in bizarre circumstances.

A master list...

The most prominent victims were Dr David Kelly and JOnathan Tucker.
A biowarfare scientist with a link to Dr. David Kelly died unexpectedly
at home last Sunday.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1662028

Did they know too much ???

2003, SARS hit greater China [mainland, HK, TW, Singapore and SEA
with sizable Chinese population....]

Coincidence ?

Ian Fleming's fundamental law of probability applies.

Posted by: denk | Jan 19 2020 3:11 utc | 201

denk 167

And....
India has been massively beefing up forces at the border with
China.

China isnt gonna attack India willy nilly, all the previous
conflict like the 1962 war and the Doklam confrontation were
Indian provocations.

Which beg the big question, whats India up to ?


China better watch up, [[[somebody]]] might be planning to
set fire to its front yard and backyard soon.

P.S.
I heard Russia is gonna propose a seat for India [with Brazil]
in the security council.

Posted by: denk | Jan 19 2020 3:24 utc | 202

The fukus led eight nations alliance are back with a vengeance,
looks like they might be coordinating multiple proxy wars
on China's peripheral to start the ball rolling....

Posted by: denk | Jan 19 2020 4:00 utc | 203

Below is a Reuters posting about Yemen

Sixty killed in Houthi attack on camp in Yemen's Marib

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 19 2020 4:38 utc | 204

denk
Apparently, Russia is building an early warning system for China so I take it Russia expects US to start loosing off the nukes at some stage.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 19 2020 4:42 utc | 205

Peter AU1 205

The crazies in fukus have war game many times on nuclear first strike against China and they conclude....
Nuclear war is winnable , what with THAAD in Korea which will
take out China's second strike retaliation. !

But I think their plan A is to bleed China with multiple proxy wars in SCS, TW, ECS, INDO/SINO border.

After uncle sham 'lost' Philippines, it start working on VN and now Indonesia,
https://www.cp24.com/polopoly_fs/1.3376735.1492691428!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg

Thats why Indonesia is now jumping in the fray in SCS after VN,
jAKARta even stop selling strategic minerals to China,
even while China is helping it to build fast rail !

Coincidence ?

Posted by: denk | Jan 19 2020 5:07 utc | 206

This is not against Denk and only against any such US "experts". I only want to point out that no, the US can not win a nuclear war against China. Some reasons:
· The US will not be able to take out the Chinese nuclear forces with a first strike.
· THAAD doesn't handle intercontinental missiles and can't defend against anything at all that is used before reentry and descent.
· The Chinese tunnel systems on their own are far too much for the US to cope with and can potentially absorb a lot of nuclear attack, likely more than the entire US arsenal of several thousand nukes. Then imagine a mechanized nuclear Chinese "Viet Cong" able to strike any US interests globally.

Then there's "a few" other things like Russia and North Korea etc. and if anyone survives long enough for any of it to matter South Korea and Japan would turn on the spot with or without instant revolution (perhaps surprisingly I think no revolution would be necessary in either place) and invite China and North Korea in as fast as possible because it would be the only remotely sensible thing to do and the only way to survive. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have discussed such extreme measures with China just in case because that would allow them to save more of their own preferences in such a future scenario.

If US "experts" pretend otherwise it only shows their corruption in lying for money and complete lack of both imagination and realism.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 19 2020 6:14 utc | 207

Interesting warning out of Iran (news report by IRNA) to Europe:

"If Europe for any reason follows unjust behavior to invoke Article 37 of the JCPOA, Iran will then take a serious action towards its cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency, Larijani said in a statement to the formal session of the parliament this morning."

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 19 2020 8:28 utc | 208

Looks like this Hassan Rezaeifar clown has been pulled into gear.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202001191078077441-tehran-analyses-downed-boeing-recorders-no-decision-on-sending-them-to-ukraine-yet---iranian-media/
"Iran is decoding the flight recorders from the Boeing 737 that was accidentally downed earlier in January and has not taken a definitive decision to send them for analysis abroad, Hassan Rezaeifar, an aircraft safety inspector at the Civil Aviation Authority, stated on Sunday, as quoted by IRNA.

"We are trying to read the black boxes here in Iran. Otherwise, our options are Ukraine and France, but no decision has been taken so far to send them to another country”, Rezaeifar said."

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 19 2020 11:29 utc | 209

South Korea's dilemma:

[INTERVIEW]'South Korea doesn't push socialist economic policies'

With the Moon Jae-in administration rolling out a series of measures focusing on redistribution over growth, there has been growing concern here and abroad that "socialism" is permeating into the capitalist South Korea.

Many foreign experts, in particular, have criticized Seoul government for tipping the balance of economic policies toward socialism, which they claim violate free market principles and will eventually lead to an exodus of foreign capital.

That's funny.

Alas, the Finance Minister is right: Jae-in Moon's government is not socialist. It's just your bread and butter keynesianism.

Posted by: vk | Jan 19 2020 13:09 utc | 210

denk | Jan 19 2020 5:07 utc | 206

about war-gaming.

I think it was Pirsig the writer in philosophy who pointed out that experiments tend to go on until they get the expected result, the result that accords with the experimenter's expectations and his theory. Then they stop. This way the experimenter blinds himself to any other experimental results.

They also tend, for similar reasons, to bias in even the results they wish for.

The end result is that people act on false belief.

Acting is unavoidable, part of life. But acting on false beliefs results in "conflict", whether this is a stubbed-toe, or blowing up the "laboratory".

That, in the examples of war, the opponents all get to act...is obvious, but not to the blind "experimenters". The "enemy" may be thought of as a teacher, correcting the aggressor's delusions.

Only fools believe in a static arena for war. The "enemy" votes.

Posted by: Walter | Jan 19 2020 13:41 utc | 211

Here's the master list of dead scientists and microbiologists,
Note that David Kelly is specialised in DNA SEQUENCING.
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_scientistkilling05.htm

Posted by: denk | Jan 19 2020 15:28 utc | 212

Sunny Runny Burger 207

IM not so worried about the 'experts' , rather those xtian fundies
in the deep state, who reportedly built themselves 'nuke proof bunkers',
they believe once the shit hit the fan they'd be safe in those 'sanctuaries',
when they emerge after the shit storm, they'd rise in rapture to meet
their maker. !

They believe ww3 is their deliverance !

Posted by: denk | Jan 19 2020 15:33 utc | 213

Walter 211

I heard those ABM testing were rigged for best result.
Even then the records were far from impressive.

Also,
The ultra expensive F35 are reportedly 'hangar queen', perpetually in maintenance mode.

At the end of the day,
Its just more pork for the barrel.

MIC reaps the windfall,
murkkan tax payers foot the bill .

Posted by: denk | Jan 19 2020 15:36 utc | 214

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