The fukus led eight nations alliance are back with a vengeance,
looks like they might be coordinating multiple proxy wars
on China’s peripheral to start the ball rolling….

Posted by: denk | Jan 19 2020 4:00 utc | 203

denk
Apparently, Russia is building an early warning system for China so I take it Russia expects US to start loosing off the nukes at some stage.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 19 2020 4:42 utc | 205

This is not against Denk and only against any such US “experts”. I only want to point out that no, the US can not win a nuclear war against China. Some reasons:
· The US will not be able to take out the Chinese nuclear forces with a first strike.
· THAAD doesn’t handle intercontinental missiles and can’t defend against anything at all that is used before reentry and descent.
· The Chinese tunnel systems on their own are far too much for the US to cope with and can potentially absorb a lot of nuclear attack, likely more than the entire US arsenal of several thousand nukes. Then imagine a mechanized nuclear Chinese “Viet Cong” able to strike any US interests globally.
Then there’s “a few” other things like Russia and North Korea etc. and if anyone survives long enough for any of it to matter South Korea and Japan would turn on the spot with or without instant revolution (perhaps surprisingly I think no revolution would be necessary in either place) and invite China and North Korea in as fast as possible because it would be the only remotely sensible thing to do and the only way to survive. I wouldn’t be surprised if they already have discussed such extreme measures with China just in case because that would allow them to save more of their own preferences in such a future scenario.
If US “experts” pretend otherwise it only shows their corruption in lying for money and complete lack of both imagination and realism.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jan 19 2020 6:14 utc | 207

Looks like this Hassan Rezaeifar clown has been pulled into gear.
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202001191078077441-tehran-analyses-downed-boeing-recorders-no-decision-on-sending-them-to-ukraine-yet—iranian-media/
“Iran is decoding the flight recorders from the Boeing 737 that was accidentally downed earlier in January and has not taken a definitive decision to send them for analysis abroad, Hassan Rezaeifar, an aircraft safety inspector at the Civil Aviation Authority, stated on Sunday, as quoted by IRNA.
“We are trying to read the black boxes here in Iran. Otherwise, our options are Ukraine and France, but no decision has been taken so far to send them to another country”, Rezaeifar said.”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jan 19 2020 11:29 utc | 209

denk | Jan 19 2020 5:07 utc | 206
about war-gaming.
I think it was Pirsig the writer in philosophy who pointed out that experiments tend to go on until they get the expected result, the result that accords with the experimenter’s expectations and his theory. Then they stop. This way the experimenter blinds himself to any other experimental results.
They also tend, for similar reasons, to bias in even the results they wish for.
The end result is that people act on false belief.
Acting is unavoidable, part of life. But acting on false beliefs results in “conflict”, whether this is a stubbed-toe, or blowing up the “laboratory”.
That, in the examples of war, the opponents all get to act…is obvious, but not to the blind “experimenters”. The “enemy” may be thought of as a teacher, correcting the aggressor’s delusions.
Only fools believe in a static arena for war. The “enemy” votes.

Posted by: Walter | Jan 19 2020 13:41 utc | 211

Sunny Runny Burger 207
IM not so worried about the ‘experts’ , rather those xtian fundies
in the deep state, who reportedly built themselves ‘nuke proof bunkers’,
they believe once the shit hit the fan they’d be safe in those ‘sanctuaries’,
when they emerge after the shit storm, they’d rise in rapture to meet
their maker. !
They believe ww3 is their deliverance !

Posted by: denk | Jan 19 2020 15:33 utc | 213