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December 08, 2019

The MoA Week In Review - Open Thread 2019-72

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

Related:
Episode 368 – The Douma Hoax: Anatomy of a False Flag - Corbett Report

Tareq Haddad @Tareq_Haddad - 11:25 UTC · Dec 7, 2019
Yesterday I resigned from Newsweek after my attempts to publish newsworthy revelations about the leaked OPCW letter were refused for no valid reason.

Related:
What really happened in Iran? - Asia Times

Related:
Who holds the Initiative, and who has the Power to mobilise the Street in Iraq? - Elijah Magnier

Related:
Fear and Loathing? The 2020 Election is a Repeat of 1972 - The Sports Geek
The Russians Are Coming! - Daniel Larison, TAC

Related:
How Aramco’s Huge I.P.O. Fell Short of Saudi Prince’s Wish - NYT
American Soldiers Are Not Bodyguards for Saudi Royals - Doug Bandow, TAC
Saudi Arabia - a family holding company, not a friend. - Pat Lang

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Other issues:

Britain:

The smear campaign that depicts Jeremy Corbyn as 'anti-semitic' and a 'Russian asset' is a preview of the upcoming smear campaign run by Democrats against Bernie Sanders.
Jewish Chronicle lied in reports on “Labour anti-Semitism” - Asa Winstanley
How the UK military and intelligence establishment is working to stop Jeremy Corbyn becoming prime minister - Daily Maverick
The historic model for this is the Zinoview letter - Wiki

Nukes:

A long-read with lots of interesting insights into the political maneuvering around the H-bomb.
John Wheeler’s H-bomb blues - Alex Wellerstein, Physics Today
In 1953, as a political battle raged over the US’s nuclear future, the eminent physicist lost a classified document, about the hydrogen bomb, on an overnight train from Philadelphia to Washington, DC.

Middle East:

Rania Khalek in a satirical video about the typical 'western' Middle East reporters:
Profiles in Courage: ENN's Middle East reporter Gertrude Bellinger
We once wrote about one of these Hizbullah interviewing reporters:
Freelancer Despairs: "My Lies About Hizbullah Can't Compete With Trump" - (Updated)

Syria:

The United States Uses “Blackwater” PMC Mercenaries and Terrorists to Steal Oil in Syria - Stalkerzone
The Madcap Scheme to Take Syria's Oil - Reason
American-Israeli businessman denies facilitating sale of Kurdish oil in Syria to Israel - Israel Hayom

Interesting that this was actually published:
Turkey deserves the blame for what happened in Syria - Irish Times

Lebanon is bankrupt and its depositors get screwed. This has dire effects for Syria's economy.

EHSANI2 @EHSANI22 - 12:50 UTC · 7 Dec 2019
Thread 👇is for every depositor in #Lebanon
I do hope am wrong, but as I will explain below, my personal conclusion after weeks of looking into this case is that
Depositors have paid the price & that most, if not all, of the money in bank deposits is gone
Here is why ===>

Russia:

Howler: A pre/post Soviet visual: vocal fragment from Aleksandr Borodin's 1887 Russian opera Prince Igor performed by an interspecies trio. (vid)
Odd modern architecture in Russia - Varlamov

737 MAX:

Boeing knew of problems with wing parts, but told FAA planes were safe, agency alleges - Washington Post

The Federal Aviation Administration proposed a rare $3.9 million civil penalty against Boeing on Friday, alleging the company “knowingly submitted aircraft” to the agency for safety certification even after learning that crucial wing components “could not be used due to a failed strength test.”

The FAA alleged in a statement and enforcement letter to Boeing on Friday that the company installed parts on some of its 737s that were “weakened” and “more prone to fatigue and failure.” The so-called “slat tracks” are critical, serving to guide the slats that slide out from the front of wings and add stability and lift during takeoff and landing.

Use as open thread ...

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Clueless Joe @ 100

Thanks for correcting me on Russian population. I don't know where I got the wrong number. Perhaps it is $65 B for its defense budget. Otherwise it makes no sense at all.

Sorry to all.

Posted by: john brewster | Dec 9 2019 16:36 utc | 101

Russia got just banned from the Olympics and the FIFA Cup.

Now, i thought that the US and the West would be imploding at any minute? That the US is rapidly collapsing? That no one cared about what the US wants? This is what i was told by alt media. How is this possible?

I'm tired of low quality Alt Media analysis from people who consistently underestimate their opponents.

I'm tired of people with rose colored glasses and people with confirmation bias.

And then i'm tired of the low quality analysis about how Trump wants to break the system, how Trump is a secret ally to Russia, how Trump wants to dismantle the US Empire, etc.

Nothing could be further from the truth. The Trump admin is far more aggressive and imperialist than all before him in modern times. It did far more against Russia than what Obama did. And don't tell me how he (Mister "Let's take the Syrian and Iraqi Oil and do you know that we could nuke Afghanistan") does not want wars. He does not want big wars only because there is no money for that. But the aggression and hatred is still there. Only the capacity to wage military aggression has declined. But if things with the US economy were good, you would be seeing the same wars over and over again.

The US has started (or it is starting) a full blown cold war against China and Russia. And it intends to sabotage the global economy and globalisation in order to keep its advantage. All will lose, but in such scenario, the US will lose less. Thus they gain in relative power. This is what their aim is. So prepare for bad economic times ahead. The globalisation window (1990 - 2017) is over.

I'm also tired of low quality analysis about how Europe would rebel at any moment against the US. (Europeans instead pushed heavily in the WADA to ban Russia). These people do not understand Europe. Europe is castrated and will go down with the US ship because their whole psychology is based on it. On the Big Daddy US liberating them from themselves and keeping order. They don't know any better than that or how to think, as this "could lead to another world war". Only the US can and does. They can only be puppets to those "who know better". It is impossible to fix it. They will go down with the US until they are destroyed.

And one day, when the population changes with non-europeans, it is then when this is going to end. it is then when US and European imperialism will end. Because it is based on white people. On the narcisitic poison of "knowing better", hiding today behind universalist liberalism. See US polls about attitudes towards other countries, whites are generally more hostile to other countries. The liberals are the same imperialists as the old school racists. I say that as a white person. Yes, this imperialism is coming from white people, both the liberals and the racists. Together of course with the zionists living in simbiotic relationship with them. And when they finally get replaced by immigrant people, this mania about ruling the world will end, and will be replaced by a real multipolar system.

A non-white USA will be less aggressive USA and a non-white Europe will be less aggressive Europe. And both will be less pro-Israel as well. This is when this is going to end.

Posted by: Passer by | Dec 9 2019 16:39 utc | 102

vk @ 96

And let's stop with this myth that the Polish are the "good savages" of Europe. They tried to conquer a good chunk of Soviet Russia during the Civil War (as part of their imperialistic aspirations) and lost (not only they lost, but they weren't conquered just because the "miracle in the Vistula") and then, during its partition, there were a lot of Nazi Polish who were more than happy to serve under the Third Reich (and a lot of Communist Polish who were opposed, too). Polish nationalism at that time was essentially a delirious ambition from the members of the nobility and urban upper classes from Warsaw.

First, I never said anything about the character of the Polish people. The nature of my analogy was a small state trapped between two large states, neither of whose ideologies was acceptable to the small state. Nothing more than that.

As with all analogies, one can immediately fall into dispute over side details.

I recognize that Poland's democracy had degenerated into Pilsudski's dictatorship within five years, that Pilsudski stupidly pushed to re-establish some version of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. That involved grabbing territory full of Galician irredentists, which created a large, angry minority. Yes to all of your bad points about Interwar Poland.

My only point was that democracy today is being crushed between fascist nationalism and neoliberal globalism. Both are equally toxic to democracy.

Posted by: john brewster | Dec 9 2019 16:44 utc | 103

Lots to respond to

I think that Russia athletes being banned from Olympics is a stupid move because I think other countries may pull out in support of this...like China and others

@ uncle tungsten about Gazprom with the question about what happens next.
I see the world in a standoff of sorts waiting to see who blinks first.....and I think it will be empire
Read the two links below in support of my thinking that

Williams: "They've Effectively Lost Control Of The System"

Fed's Third "Year-End" Repo Oversubscribed Again Amid Liquidity Scramble As Dec 16 Tax Day Looms

The take away quote from the 2nd link
"
As a reminder, since the Sept 16 repo blow up, the Fed has injected $208 billion via "temporary" rolling overnight and term repos, and $114 billion via permanent T-Bill purchases.
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 9 2019 16:47 utc | 104

Walter @ 94

If you only pay attention to the speaks who please you, then you condemn yourself to ignorance about your enemies...

There are plenty of people other than Buckley warning about breakups. I don't need some Koch-ite's take on it. I have no time to waste disputing the libertarian ideologues. Like all human beings, I have limited mental bandwidth. I have enough experience with libertarians, and don't need to waste any more time on them.

Yes, indeed, the sort of breakup he describes would very probably result in the disaster you describe. I did not notice the author being in favor of such a breakup. Did anybody?

How do you know that preventing a breakup is the real goal of his article? I notice that he slips in a plug for another favorite Koch hobbyhorse: a Constitutional Convention:

Second, a cordial divorce might be worked out through the amending machinery of a convention held under Article V of the Constitution, if all sections of America were good and tired of each other. Secession cannot be unconstitutional when there’s a constitutional way of making it happen, through a constitutional convention.

The Kochs, through their ALEC subsidiary, have been pushing this "Convention of States" for decades, and are close to getting the number of states needed - due largely to the disproportionate power of the small, GOP states.

I suggest he may not want a breakup, but use the threat of such to forward the Koch agenda of eviscerating the Constitution.

for example that Walter was ignorant of the nature of the proffered author.

I am always wary of people who refer to themselves in the third person when that is totally unnecessary.

Posted by: john brewster | Dec 9 2019 17:00 utc | 105

@ Posted by: Passer by | Dec 9 2019 16:39 utc | 102

Well, the only USA that matters to the rest of the world is the USA-as-the-world's-sole-superpower. If that version of the USA disappears, then we would be talking about a completely different geopolitical architecture ("multipolar").

The USA itself doesn't need to collapse or disintegrate for that to happen.

My opinion is that the USA is losing its "sole superpower" status, albeit at a very slow pace. It couldn't be another way, since the USA is a nuclear superpower, so its competitors must deactivate its hegemony slowly and gently.

I also believe the USA will disappear some day, but in a different way than the USSR. Since the USA is a capitalist economy, it will desintegrate rather than collapse, and this disintegration will happen more a la Roman Empire (Crisis of the Third Century and beyond) rather than a la USSR. Capitalism has an anarchic way of producing and distributing its wealth, resulting in a decentralized web of institutions. First the institutions will decline. Second, the State will decline. Third, the economy will decline and only after this "phase 3" that we'll be able to se the real desintegration of the USA.

I don't believe the USA will fall by conquest, mostly because it has MAD, second because its geographic location favours a defensive war of its territory. More probable would be the gradual secession of some States after the economy has degraded enough. I wouldn't consider the loss of one peripheral State as the formal end of the USA, but if it goes to the stage of it losing more or less the Southern States or the Midwest States, then I think some historians would use these as a useful event to mark the formal end of the USA.

But before that, I belive the USA will remain a very influent regional superpower for the forseeable future. It would have to take the entire capitalist structure to fall for the USA to really enter its desintegration phase. I've talked with some Marxists, and the most optimistic of them belive the USA still has some 150-200 years of tranquil existence. Of course, we're not psychics, so they are all wild guesses.

Posted by: vk | Dec 9 2019 17:02 utc | 106

@TJ #24 I don't see how the Articles you've posted relate to outright banning.
Google and Facebook can deny advertising as well as hinder search placement of web sites, but they cannot prevent people from going directly to the sites.
MoA doesn't have ads, so ad banning isn't an issue either.
Explicit blocking of traffic through diktats to ISPs or network ASNs blocking through traffic - that would be a very different matter but I don't see any evidence of that, anywhere to date. by: c1ue @ 32

Point is: when, blocking traffic, hindering search placement or blocking or redirecting search request access to websites does not work, they will move to more direct means.. like hardware their access into the hardware there is a bill in congress right now to allow that.. and much more.. the obvious answer is to make all of that illegal. but laws to do that would require an honest congress intent of providing those they govern with the best there is in democracy and personal security.. LOL.

It may not be difficult to create a backup internet, possible to keep the lions of deceit in the dark, text only browsers, even SMNP( email), establish a different nomenclature for mime type. .. then it is necessary only to change the network protocols, encode the transport in different size packets, and use their existing wires allowing dial up connection... in the same way we did with dial up over modems.. every computer in the dark side network could harbor secret, difficult to break network protocols, which can be updated by making the equipment user (field) programmable, each user on the network could update to the then current protocol , changed every few hours ( with something like DNS), with the right programming. Private networks, using field programmable hardware instead of OS monitored software could prove to block the blockers. .

Posted by: snake | Dec 9 2019 17:20 utc | 107

I see docs obtained by Washington post seemingly disprove our ongoing narrative of maintaining position there.

Story is on zerohedge.

Probably leaked by members of trump admin to further prove his case of withdrawing.

Good.

I also see the same narrative being put forth ad nauseam that "America" the superpower is the sole responsible party for the mess the world finds itself in. What a ruse! America has simultaneously been extracted and gutted to the tune of blood from our boys and some 6 trillion to the mic. How has this benefited the U.S.?

Knock it off with the sophomoric anti-American claptrap. I am all for putting the U.S. Golem down, the one being manipulated by the dual neo-threat, but the blame can be laid at the feet of the globalist class exclusively.

And have you all been paying attention? They are the party of anationals.

...

Passer-by, I am smh with your antiwhite diatribe. Clearly you are up to your neck in the globalist bullshit which has obviously gone unnoticed by you.

I don't suppose you have ever had the thought that peace at the expense of cultural difference and heritage sounds exactly like the monoculture hellscape the extractor class desires for us. But that proposition is dubious in itself, because any fool can see the wonton destruction the globalists have already imparted upon the world. Any further meddling down that road will only finish the job.

Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Dec 9 2019 17:22 utc | 108

Apologies, the zerohedge story is re: U.S. Involvement in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Dec 9 2019 17:24 utc | 109

@ Dear John and your #95 and "You should do some digging on whom you are proffering. Your author is as hard right as one can be.." And your suspicions regarding persons using 3rd form. I am deeply sorry about the prejudice. It must be galling for you. Walter rejects the implied ad hominem... And also the weird idea that such a fellow might be "mine". I care zero about the man. Frankly I am not interested in the man in the slightest.

Did I mention his name? I proffered the article in support of a thesis about democracy as a concept, and what it means, not the man. You, John, proffered the man, not Walter. John, these are separate things.

As to 3rd person... do you imagine "vk" or "psychohistorian" are real names? The correct form is the 3rd person...and the syntax is honestly revealing of that.

But to the question..."N" indicates an unknown quality or position or identity. I believe we used this term in elementary arithmetic.

As Walter had often made clear, he does not advocate, not has he political opinions. He looks at the History.

As to breakup... Maybe slow, maybe fast. It's indeterminate. "Nth number of units of Time away. However imagine that the Western Governors Association of US meets in desperate need of funds which the Capitol cannot provide...and Chinese or Russian (or both) agencies offer help...in exchange for paying modest pensions to the old and feeding the hungry, these agencies gain economic zones in Long Beach, Seattle, Coos Bay, and Eureka, and begin to employ local labor building rail and port facilities...

Posted by: Walter | Dec 9 2019 17:28 utc | 110

@107 snake

A few FPGA boards you might want to tinker with -

Ultra96
NiteFury
UltraMiner FPGA ( still in crowd funding )

Posted by: TJ | Dec 9 2019 17:43 utc | 111

@ Passerby

I think are you more correct than many here would acknowledge, but I think there are some reasons why the US will not emerge relatively stronger:
a) The sanctions regime is causing suppliers, at this time just China, to shift business mostly to Taiwan but to a lesser extent Europe. One article said that Europe might gain ~ $40b of additional business due to the war an Huawei. France, Norway,Hungary and Portugal seem to be siding with Huawei on 5G. I would be stunned if the US is not being removed from other supply chains.
b) The US has a short-term tailwind from fracking; a lot of ink has been spilled on when that will end.
c) Electric cars, if they live up to their advertising, could be a large boost to continental European economies by cutting their drag from energy importation. Same for China, but this of course assumes low cost electric supplies and there is considerable waste in electricity transmission.
- Germany is now getting ~ 45% of its electric power from renewables.
d) The US has much further to fall than China and Russia in terms of standard of living.
e) Russia has geography in its favor for energy exports (ie, pipelines).
f) If the US loses its tech dominance, and Boeing continues to crap all over itself (United last week ordered A321LR models to replace 757s), the US will only have agriculture and fracking as strong export markets.
- As for exporting LNG, see my comment on the earlier page re: overcapacity and low prices.
g) Europe is ~ 8 years ahead of the US with respect to its aging population, and Germany is now running a large budget surplus. Somehow I doubt that the US will have a massive budget surplus in 2027.

One issue China and US share are both being grossly overleveraged from a debt perspective. The US and China also both have high Gini coefficients.

Posted by: Schmoe | Dec 9 2019 17:57 utc | 112

Sci-Hub shows that it is very difficult to keep websites off the internet. The scientific publishing industry hates them, has obtained court judgements against them, and still Sci-hub remains a free library of millions of research papers.

Without the medical research papers I have accessed via Sci-Hub I would be in a nursing home or, more likely, dead.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Dec 9 2019 18:09 utc | 113

Walter @ 110

In Walter @ 94 you say:

If the devil says it, and it's true, then it's still true. A little thought, pal.If you only pay attention to the speaks who please you, then you condemn yourself to ignorance about your enemies...

Kindly do not assume what you do not know, for example that Walter was ignorant of the nature of the proffered author.

By implying you are not ignorant of the author, by implying that the site or the author is my "enemy", you put those topics in play. You say that reading my enemy is something necessary.

But in Walter @ 110, you say:

Did I mention his name? I proffered the article in support of a thesis about democracy as a concept, and what it means, not the man. You, John, proffered the man, not Walter. John, these are separate things.

As if you never made the claims in @94 that you were aware of the author and his political stance.

Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Your argumentation style assumes that I can't remember what you wrote an hour ago. Not buying this.

As Walter had often made clear, he does not advocate, not has he political opinions. He looks at the History.

Are you aware of how pompous and unhinged this kind of repetitive, third-person pontification sounds?

Posted by: john brewster | Dec 9 2019 18:11 utc | 114

@Schmoe #36
US Sanctions have been very effective on weak nations that don't have strong trade links or militaries, but Russia's economy has so little to do with the US that the sanctions on direct trade are irrelevant. European trade has been severely affected, but it seems a lot of that trade was in higher end goods and luxuries as opposed to basic necessities.
I would also strongly quibble with your assertion that LNG prices are "low".
US natural gas prices are low, true, but the LNG process makes the on-border EU cost much higher. From what I've seen, the present LNG export price according to the EIA is comparable to what Germany what paying for Russian natural gas in 2017. I haven't seen more recent data, but it seems likely that Russian natural gas can be priced lower if necessary while LNG is pretty much as low as it will ever be.

Posted by: c1ue | Dec 9 2019 18:23 utc | 115

@TJ #38
No, I can't say that I do see.
A web site is a public domain. Linking to it is no different than saying "I saw it on CNN".
CNN cannot sue for the use of its public name unless it is a clear copyright or some other type of for-profit infringement.
Furthermore, what you say is counter to the actual realities of internet money flows.
Links to benefit the target - how exactly would a court assess damages to the target site in this case? Give back the money that was made by the linking?
Perhaps you can provide some actual examples where you've seen this practice successfully used.

Posted by: c1ue | Dec 9 2019 18:27 utc | 116

With Putin at the Normandy 4 talks, it was left to Medvedev to speak about the berserk WADA move:

"The fact that these decisions keep on repeating and are often applicable to those athletes who have already been punished this or that way, obviously makes one think that it is a continuation of the anti-Russian hysteria that has already grown chronic." [My Emphasis]

Indeed, the WADA decision is akin to the OPCW bullshit. Russian sport agencies have grounds to appeal and will, but the root cause is the insane animus aimed at Russia and all things Russian by one main group of pukes located within the Evil Outlaw US Empire. IMO, as with SWIFT, another set of international sport organizations need to be built and joined by nations abhorred by the "chronic anti-Russian hysteria" contrived since the 2008 war waged against South Ossetia by Georgia at NATO's insistence and further amplified by the Ukraine coup and subsequent events that didn't go the way the Empire wanted. The situation has become so poor that almost every Western oriented organization is being forced to engage in the gross Russophobia to a degree where they risk losing what shed of credibility they retain. I expect to see numerous Eurasian and African nations banding together to form new organizations having no Western controllers.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 9 2019 18:30 utc | 117

Documents Reveal Misleading Public Statements on War in Afghanistan

“We were devoid of a fundamental understanding of Afghanistan — we didn’t know what we were doing,” said Douglas Lute, a retired three-star Army general who helped the White House oversee the war in Afghanistan in both the Bush and Obama administrations.

“What are we trying to do here? We didn’t have the foggiest notion of what we were undertaking,” he told government interviewers in 2015.

If not for the direct mentions to the country and the year at the end of this excerpt, I could've thought it was talking about Vietnam, and not Afghanistan.

Another NYT article mentions the USG admits it spent at least USD 2 trillion in Afghanistan.

Posted by: vk | Dec 9 2019 18:37 utc | 118

john brewster @114

For the sake of your own sanity do not continue to engage with this "Walter." He chooses someone among the commenters to needle and pick a fight with and will go on and on with it, achieving no purpose except to really get under your skin (his aim).

This I learnt on an earlier piece by b. "Walter" decided to pick a fight with me over something I had neither written nor intended as subtext. Baffling until I decided that this is his intention, to get a commenter pissed off and so engage in an utterly pointless "dialogue" concerning either nothing significant at all or something you didn't actually write. Perhaps "Walter" is a troll, which wouldn't surprise me. Distract from the subject(s) at hand into some sinkhole of vapid nonsense.

Posted by: AnneR | Dec 9 2019 18:40 utc | 119

@snake #107
The actual capability to do what you say is a lot harder than you make it seem.
A simple example: routing.
Yes, in theory - Google and/or Facebook could program all of their ASNs to prevent route-throughs of certain traffic.
In reality, this is extremely unlikely because it causes a visible impact on the efficiency of these servers, which in turn affects performance for their "legit" traffic. The rest of the internet's response would then be to route more and more traffic through ASNs and routes not controlled by FB/Goog - which is not to these companies' interest at all.
DNS is another example. The reality is that DNS isn't a centralized system. If you use Google nameservers, Google could theoretically delete your DNS record from its nameservers, but nothing stops you from going to another ISP and getting the domain re-registered on that ISPs nameservers. Google has no power to delete some other ISP's DNS records.
We have a lot of real world examples of how tough it is to block traffic.
The only large entity that has successfully done so is China - and they do it by literally managing the entire country as a gigantic firewall with tens to hundreds of thousands of administrators.
I have yet to see any form of credible examples where any US company is able to do the same.
Yes, there are examples of widespread failures due to attacks such as the Amazon DynDNS attack a couple years ago, but again - one of the reasons that attack was so successful was because of how few people actually managed the DynDNS setup. They aren't and never were equipped for anything more than simple enablement.
The least convincing part of the argument is that MoA matters a hill of beans to Google/Facebook.
b doesn't put up traffic numbers, but Alexa.com shows moonofalabama.org to be ranked 109,983rd in global internet engagement.
For comparison: CNN is #98, the NY Times is #97, Foxnews.com is #235, Twitter is #36, my local newspaper (The San Francisco Chronicle) is #1292 and the SF Examiner, a free local paper, is #77,578.
I have to find a suburb's local paper, the Daily Journal, to get a really low ranking: #517,286
This is a great site and resource, but let's not get carried away as to whether it is really moving the bar vs. the big boys of media.

Posted by: c1ue | Dec 9 2019 18:49 utc | 120

Below is a BBC link to the Normandy 4 talks in France

Ukraine conflict: Putin and Zelensky hold landmark talks in Paris

It is not like the BBC has the best coverage but it shows what I want to emphasize which is that the US is not present and that is yet another example of the reduction in control of the global narrative....and further weakening of empire

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 9 2019 18:53 utc | 121

Apparently a very tired passer of gas has passed by, but I will hold my breath and post my thanks for another week of excellent analysis from our host.

I would like to point out that equating socialism and Marxism with government handouts and/or the promotion of victim culture and its associated identity politics; what some who self-identify as "conservatives" like to refer to as "cultural Marxism", is part of a deliberate effort to bury real socialism under layers of disinformation and ideological feces. Some term like "socialism for the rich" doesn't even make sense since socialism is supposed to be about a transitional form of society in which the working class has taken (or is in the process of taking) control of society's productive forces.

To be certain, real socialists oppose prejudice, such as racism, homophobia, religious intolerance, sexism, etc, but that isn't the core of socialist ideology. Not even close. The opposition to prejudice isn't really even a part of socialism at all. That is just a tactic employed by socialists in order to help build class consciousness and counter moves by the capitalists to split the working class along these convenient fault lines. To fixate on these fault lines is actually a kind of mental and emotional damage, and it accomplishes precisely the splits in society that capitalists want and socialists try to prevent.

Surprisingly, this is something that Bernie Sanders occasionally gets right. When grilled about his position on racism and sexism and other prejudices, he often redirects the discussion to class issues. This detail about him convinces me that Sanders is genuine and his sheepdogging in 2016 after the Dem convention was a strategic error and not part of a deliberate plan on his part. Hopefully he has learned from his strategic error and won't repeat it.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 9 2019 18:55 utc | 122

AnneR @ 119

Thanks for your report. I was coming to a similar conclusion. But, being new here, and being unfamiliar with all the personalities, I didn't want to rush to judgment.

Posted by: john brewster | Dec 9 2019 19:10 utc | 123

Through this forceful Global Times op/ed, "US politics will not affect China’s development path." Due to the way it's managed, China's economy is far more efficient than the Evil Outlaw US Empire's and is thus capable of expanding its growth rate despite the Trade War, which China now predicts as continuing beyond the 2020 elections:

"Trump has repeatedly broken the consensus reached between China and the US, and has tried to accuse China of hindering trade negotiations. Such policy changes are largely due to US domestic political pressure. How can we trust such chaotic and inconsistent US policies?

"Trump said on December 3 that a China-US trade deal could wait until after the 2020 president election, adding that 'in some ways it's better to wait.' But waiting may not benefit the US. By the time of the election, the two parties' political contest will be more intense and the US policies may be less stable. China and the US may further lose their mutual trust.

"The impeachment inquiry will bring greater pressure on Trump and affect his candidacy in 2020. But if Trump can reach a trade deal with China before the election, even if it is a limited deal, it will be an achievement for Trump to brag about. This is also in line with Trump's personal interests. If Trump fails to narrow the widening gap between the two parties and fails to be more consistent in policies, the situation will only be less favorable for the US.

"But whatever the situation, China will firmly follow its own path. After a protracted trade war, China has realized that doing its own things well and developing its own economy is top priority. The annual Central Economic Work Conference [Emphasis Original] will be held in mid-December, when China will analyze its economic development in 2020."

That Conference will likely produce a White Paper whose contents ought to be compared to one of China's latest White Papers, "China and the World in the New Era," from 27 Sept 2019. IMO, as China's internal market and that of its neighbors continue to become more affluent, China's dependency on the Canadian/US market will wane to the point where they won't matter anymore, which is why Trump's choice of waging a Trade War with China was beyond poor and asinine.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 9 2019 19:12 utc | 124

@ 114 (and all who imagine condemnation by naming "troll" or whatever you imagine that means).

Thank You John. You have demonstrated the flaw that associates with focus on the man, and ignoring the logic, the argument.

Walter is glad about that, but sorry about the illogical chains that bind you to servitude. It's a pity. However this does leave a vast and unexplored future for you.

Such characteristics are part of the fundamental of clubs, which is always his interest.

And thank you also for thanking Walter, when he has spent such unproductive effort with you.

Generally, in casual forum, the name calling person tends to be projecting his own character, or so many experts tell us. Thus especially a kind thanks for the name-calling. reconde tibi datum porcos.

I note that the discussion is, thanks to John, focused on Walter, and not his argument. Who then may be named "troll"?

Good Job!

Posted by: Walter | Dec 9 2019 19:18 utc | 125

@116 c1ue

I linked to the EU Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market which came into force on 6 June 2019, EU countries have 2 years from that date to implement it within their national law, none have yet done so. When it is implemented it will have the effect I describe, as you say it goes against the way the web has worked thus far, that is the point, the EU does not want people being exposed to facts and alternative interpretations of events that lie outside the mainstream news Overton Window which they might get with a news aggregator, and they certainly do not want people linking to MSM "news" and debunking it as b and others do on a regular basis.

Posted by: TJ | Dec 9 2019 19:42 utc | 126

Below is a ZH posting link that is a summary of a Washington Post story that some are now referring to as the "Afghanistan Papers"

"Undeniable Evidence": Explosive Classified Docs Reveal Afghan War Mass Deception

And the narrative control of late empire continues to crumble.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 9 2019 20:48 utc | 127

@123 john brewster.. i think i concur with anne at this point.. maybe it's premature on my part as walter is a newbie here too.. regardless i really like what you have to say john and appreciate your posts here at moa..

Posted by: james | Dec 9 2019 20:56 utc | 128

Below is another ZH link that covers a lot of ground and IMO is worth a read

As Of Midnight Tomorrow The WTO Effectively Ceases To Function

The sub heading and meme for the article made me chuckle (Bananas for International Settlements) thats BIS for us financial types....you know, the private organization that was suppose to go away as part of the Bretton Woods agreement.

Loss of the WTO is a big hit to the China/Russia side that were using that organization to maintain some sort of "rule of law" in our world. It will be interesting to see what happens next....maybe the whole UN's days are numbered as well. Might as well, we need a new multi-polar organization that is not just "high court" for empire

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 9 2019 21:08 utc | 129

124 Cont'd--

In addition, "Chinese Gov't Reportedly to Ditch All US-Made Hard and Software by 2023":

"The reported new policy is likely to affect major US hardware and software companies like Microsoft, which even developed a "Chinese Government Edition" of Windows 10 in 2017 to stay on the market, as well as HP, Dell, Intel and others. Analysts at Jefferies, quoted by the Financial Times, say that the total market for US hard and software products in China accounts for $150 billion a year in revenues."

There's consistency as the Evil Outlaw US Empire continues to stub the same toe to the point where it's now lame and will continue to increase its disability. Like Obama and Clinton, Trump can't seem to understand that It's the economy stupid! Some are trying to spin this by saying the private sector likely won't follow suit since the directive only affects government, but that's likely incorrect as China's government promotes the need to be patriotic and buy Chinese tech products, which Chinese are very likely to obey.

The utter stupidity and shortsightedness of Trump's Trade War with China and the World is spectacular to behold.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 9 2019 21:13 utc | 130

karlof1 @130 is correct. With computer hardware and software it is all about "ecosystem". With hundreds of millions of users moving out of the Microsoft/Intel "ecosystem", a whole new computing "ecosystem" will come into being. That "ecosystem" will be big enough to thrive without Microsoft/Intel.

The biggest problem for western IT businesses is not the immediate loss of sales, but rather the rise of a competing "ecosystem" that gives users a choice that for the most part they don't have right now.

The fact that China is making this move right now means that they have written off ending the trade war. This is a huge move and a crippling body-blow to western tech industries. Perhaps Microsoft won't feel it yet, but they will, and it will seriously hurt.

Posted by: William Gruff | Dec 9 2019 21:40 utc | 131

Re: Fisa report by IG Horowitz.

Horowitz ends his report with the conclusion that the FBI
was justified in seeking the FISA warrants. Could anyone please
explain how there could possibly be justification for a process
that the Horowitz report itself determined involved diverse and
severe "abuses." Abuses is a weasel word because, to my understanding,
they were criminal acts that involved violations of the law. Yet the
report contains no criminal referrals. Does the report explain in detail
the reasons why the FBI was justified in seeking the warrants? If not, then
we can safely assume that either the IG approves of the highly coordinated
criminal conspiracy by the FBI and various intelligence agencies to foment
a seditious coup, if that is too harsh then at least to fabricate phony
allegations and charges against the trump admin, for the purposes of
undermining the foreign policy of the executive, specifically to prevent
normalization of relations with russia, and to preemptively obstruct any
investigation by the trump admin into the rampant corruption and criminality
by various agencies of the federal government and both parties in congress
that followed the destruction of ukraine as a functioning state
or that such seditious coups by the empire or fabrications of phony charges
are not in fact illegal.

Posted by: evilempire | Dec 9 2019 21:47 utc | 132

@ William Gruff # 130 and karlof1 at #130

I linked to similar in my comment 70 from yesterday which I will repeat some of
"
The take away quotes
"
...... the FT reports that Beijing has ordered all government offices and public institutions to remove foreign computer equipment and software within three years.
..........
The take home message here is that US PC and software giants are about to lose billions in sale to Chinese customers, a move that will infuriate Trump who will, correctly, see such attempts to isolate the Chinese PC market from US vendors.
"

This is going to be difficult for China but they have a domestic OS, the Kylin OS, that is Unix/Linux based, so much Open Source software is available to replace the Microsoft/Apple software they currently use until they develop their own.

This speaks to Trump saying he can wait for a trade deal until after the (s)election but it seems obvious that his negotiating position is going to get weaker by the day.
"

To add to that there is another recent ZH posting (no link) that shows that China is now getting its soybeans from South America and not the US as shown by ship traffic...Brazilian and Argentinean ports.....hence the recent US tariffs....sigh

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 9 2019 21:55 utc | 133

@TJ #116
Perhaps you can point to the clause or clauses which effect the enormous legal changes you say the European copyright and related rights in the Digital Single Market law is supposed to implement.
I looked through the 80+ clauses or so - what I saw is a clear goal of differentiating research vs. commercial usage and also clearly spelling out rights of original content publishers vs. aggregators (i.e. Google).
Google posting a news story by Reuters as part of its news feed is a very different matter than a web site linking to another web site. This model isn't illegal under present law but clearly has hurt content publishers.
I didn't see anything criminalizing web site link references.

Posted by: c1ue | Dec 9 2019 22:27 utc | 134

psychohistorian @133 & William Gruff @131--

When stepping back to view the holistic scene between the three main contenders, Russia, China, and the Evil Outlaw US Empire, we see Trump engaged in Trade War not just with China but with most of the world's nations, while the D-Party through Congress along with the Neocons continue their Russophobic narrative targeting everything related to Russia, including other nations with friendly relations. Then we glance at the latest US War Department strategy papers that overtly name Russia and China as existential threats, while also recalling the Empire still pursues its #1 policy goal of attaining Full Spectrum Domination over the planet and its people. Our eyes then turn to happenings in Latin America, where the Empire's waging an ideological war against any nation showing any signs of nationalist or social-democratic policy measures in support of the populace. Given what's proposed in the strategy documents, the groundwork's being laid for a major war during the 2020s to be fought be the currently "marginal" Imperial armed forces.

IMO, Gabbard and Sanders see the above. Bloomberg & Biden are agents chosen to implement the choice of war.

Posted by: karlof11 | Dec 9 2019 23:57 utc | 135

evilempire - 132
To be blunt and brutally honest, the only real differences between the shenanigans of various agencies against Trump and the Watergate of Nixon era are that this time it didn't involve amateur hired goons but the intelligence agencies themselves and that the sitting president wasn't manipulating to get reelected for a 2nd term but to make sure the candidate of the enemy party would be defeated and the president's party would continue to rule the country.
This bad, as in really bad, as in definitely way worse than Watergate, and the kind of shit Fujimori and other garden variety dictators tend to use to go after their opposition.
And that comes from me, who thinks Trump is an asshole, and idiot, unworthy to be president (like others presidents before him), that a lot of his policies (the bulk of his internal ones and some of his foreign ones) are terrible, but none of these is groung enough to even ponder impeachment or to sic the FBI or the CIA against his campaign team. You want to stay a loosely-democratic Republic, you have to beat it fairly by the rules; otherwise, better just get rid of the pretenses and openly go for a totally different political regime.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Dec 10 2019 0:05 utc | 136

CJ

This Horowitz report is stinking to high heaven. I think that
both Horowitz and the FBI have perjured themselves in this
report. For example, the report states that the Steele dossier
was not instrumental in obtaining the warrant on Carter Page. This
seems to be contradicted here.

"The bulk of the [first Carter Page FISA] application consists of allegations against Page that were disclosed to the FBI by Mr. Steele and are also outlined in the Steele dossier. The application appears to contain no additional information corroborating the dossier allegations against Mr. Page."

Posted by: evilempire | Dec 10 2019 0:19 utc | 137

james @ 128

After the word-salad of Walter @ 125, I think the matter is settled. Walter should seek mental health assistance.

Thank you for the support of my posts.

Posted by: john brewster | Dec 10 2019 0:37 utc | 138

Although this conflicts somewhat with my last post - that we only concern ourselves with topics featured in corporate media, the fact that the government has chosen to wait until the "silly season" - the last 2 weeks before xmas when most people are too busy with life to spend time on news, does indicate that the WaPo docs obtained under FOI from Office of the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (Sigar), a federal agency whose main task is eliminating corruption and inefficiency in the US war effort does contain many unpalatable truths about the hugely expensive, gory fiesta called 'the War in Afghanistan'.

Here is a link to what the media with their love of instantly forgettable, slide off the tongue cliches are already calling "The Afghanistan Papers".

There is a lot of reading here but those interested should peruse the reality of what the Pentagon knew was happening in Afghanistan compared to the solid spew of designed to deceive, official reports which have been frothing forth for the last 18 years.

I dunno what washington posts' rules are for their site cos I rarely if ever visit (not feeling in need of the world according to Bezos) but I got in and across it all with a firefox set to imitate google sniffer.

Posted by: A User | Dec 10 2019 1:15 utc | 139

A User @139--

I read a summary of the WaPost report here, and a video [at link] was also released. IMO, this was the most important part of the summary:

"... the interviewees, who were directly involved in the war effort, were forthright, believing their remarks would not be made public." [My Emphasis]

So the bullshit was well known for 18+ years and nobody had the balls to come out with the truth. This excerpt sums it all up very well:

"Ryan Crocker, who was the top U.S. diplomat in Kabul from 2011 to 2012, said in a 2016 interview, 'Our biggest single project, sadly and inadvertently, of course, may have been the development of mass corruption.'"

I'd dispute his assertion of "inadvertent" to the moon and beyond and label it the whipped cream topping the bullshit pie. And Pelosi had the gall to say she held "impeachment off the table" for Bush because she didn't think deliberately lying the nation into an illegal war is an impeachable offense! Yes, read that again!

So, Bezos's motive. We know he hates Trump, and we know he's not Anti-war as he wants as many contracts with the War Dept as possible. Is he trying to support fellow Kleptocrat Bloomberg? Lots of contradictions. Trump on the other hand can take this report, wave it over his head, shout "We're Out!" and gain a huge political victory--provided-- he ceases his other sabre rattling. If he does nothing, he leaves himself open to easy attacks by any D-Party candidate other than Biden or Clinton that could be enough for him to lose the election. It could also be another political football designed to cover the self-destructive Impeachment Derangement, as since the story was broken by a major member of BigLie Media, others will run with it. Or maybe Bezos actually likes Trump and wants to give him help.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 10 2019 2:11 utc | 140

Below is an almost worthless article about China doing a pilot on digital currency. I will explain more below the link

China's Central Bank to Lead Real-World Pilot of Digital Yuan

Maybe other MoA barflies can come forward with more about the background behind the web site this report is from, Cointelegraph. IMO, they are really full of BS, lies and obfuscation about digital currencies.

Their first lie is that the digital currencies that are out there now are somehow "public". It sounds like some commenters here that want to change the meaning of words that already have a very explicit meaning. For something to be "public" in the instance of money would mean that it is owned by a public organization like a sovereign government. They seem to be stretching the concept of public availability to cover for the fact that the various digital currencies are privately created and made available to the gullible public....FOR PROFIT and hence private money.

The second lie is that digital currencies must be decentralized to be "real". They quote John McAfee as saying
"
“The Chinese, and all corporate and government coins will be nothing more than surveillance systems for your financial transactions. Don’t use them, [decentralization will live on].”
"
Think carefully about this. Why would anyone want to use a digital currency developed and operated by a private organization for profit and without transparency? Sounds like the global private banking system we have now, right?
And unless you pay cash for everything and don't use the internet, your current financial transactions are within big surveillance systems already...world-wide.

Digital currencies are the current Dutch tulip mania of the 1630's...go read about it. While I believe that there is a future in local/regional currency exchange systems that are not-for-profit and I am going to help support the growth of such, I have no belief in digital currencies created by private organizations for profit.....money is/should be the responsibility of public organizations such as sovereign governments and we need to get rid of the current global private finance cancer and cult of the West to evolve as a species, IMO

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 10 2019 3:09 utc | 141

The following are quotes showing the holiday spirit/snark

"
As the manufacturing recession gains momentum, the largest U.S. truckload carrier filed for bankruptcy Monday morning, leaving 3,000 truck drivers and 500 administrative positions without a job two weeks before Christmas.

Indianapolis-based Celadon filed for voluntary Chapter 11 bankruptcy in the early hours on Monday morning.
"

"
Putting its pre-Christmas bonus pink slips where its mouth is, Morgan Stanley which in recent years has emerged the most bearish US-based bank, is firing 2% of its workforce, or roughly 1,500 bankers, "due to an uncertain global economic outlook" CNBC reported citing people with knowledge of the situation.
"
But the US economy is in great shape, right? Ask the private bankers getting billions from the US people via the Fed.

Help those in need and traumatized this holiday season

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 10 2019 3:44 utc | 142

@psychohistorian #141
The cryptocurrencies are predicated with the idea that money should be separated from government control.
There is a core which is ultra libertarian, but core and mass are both thinking that cryptocurrencies can enable individual separation from central banks and fiat currencies.
In practice, this is nonsensical. Dr. Michael Hudson has clearly shown that money arose from government taxation - it was not created first.
Secondly, the notion that any government will tolerate larger and larger portions of its money to be untraceable and thus untaxable is delusional. The only reason “the west” hasn’t cracked down yet is because the early cryptocurrencies greatly enabled illegal money transfers/capital flight out of China, South Korea etc.
China’s digital currency is exactly how China defuses existing cryptocurrency enthusiasts and new international ones like Libra. Note China simultaneously banned existing cryptocurrency exchanges...
What’s really funny is that the blockchain ledger is the literal opposite of private; a permanent record of your financial transactions, readable by everyone, isn’t private. The increasing number of arrests bolstered by Chainanalysia if transaction history plus ensuing asset forfeitures is no surprise to me, at least.

Posted by: c1ue | Dec 10 2019 4:11 utc | 143

Has anyone else linked to this story-that the Skripals disappeared onto a USAF base in the UK? And that, in all likelihood they are now in the USA (or Canada)?

http://johnhelmer.net/the-skripals-under-us-control-at-a-usaf-nuclear-bomber-base-in-fairford-gloucestershire/#more-21682

Posted by: bevin | Dec 10 2019 4:20 utc | 144

@ Posted by: c1ue | Dec 10 2019 4:11 utc | 143 who wrote in response to my digital currency comment
"
The cryptocurrencies are predicated with the idea that money should be separated from government control.
There is a core which is ultra libertarian, but core and mass are both thinking that cryptocurrencies can enable individual separation from central banks and fiat currencies.
In practice, this is nonsensical.
"
Are you agreeing in your 1st sentence that cryptocurrencies are predicated on being private (for profit) fiat currencies?

In your 2nd sentence you define core but not mass, what is mass? And when you write about "enable individual separation from central banks and fiat currencies" are you referring to public or private Central Banks and how are cryptocurrencies viewed as not being fiat?

I agree that cryptocurrencies are nonsensical and think they are ripoffs of the public.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 10 2019 4:42 utc | 145

@ karlof1 #140

I've now read some of the documents not such a simple matter because the so-called documents are in fact .png's of .pdf pages. A PNG is an image file and therefore isn't searchable, so wapo isn't that interested in releasing them as a research tool which meshes with the fact wapo made the decision to hold publication until the silly season.
I dunno exactly how long ago it was that the post got these pdf's & tapes, but it wasn't yesterday, the paper made a conscious call to hold off publication.
It really requires somone proficient with an optical character recognition app such as OmniPage to scan the png's and turn them back into printable, searchable pdf's.

The vid was a typically 'amerika rules' piece of tosh. At one point an interviewee seeks to convince his audience that it is Afghanistan to blame for this mess when he describes an Afghani official as "evil even by Afghan standards".
What possible chance can any invasion have when the big boss of it believes that afghans are innately evil? The sort of redneck thinking that promotes a premise of one group of people being morally superior to another because the humans are 'less evil' is plain ignorant and totally unsupported by research.
The way that amerikan military have been encouraged to celebrate having a completely different philosophic approach to the rest of amerikan society does not bode well for times when 'the people' need to call out a mendacious legislature.

Posted by: A User | Dec 10 2019 6:32 utc | 146

@ psychohistorian | Dec 10 2019 3:09 utc | 141

Psychohistorian is correct about digital currencies, they are nothing but private fiat money. Furthermore, this private fiat money is designed to create a revenue stream of actual fiat currency for those designing this 'mathematical scam' on a logic deprived public (the marks) using false promise and deception about private fiat money's value and utility.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Dec 10 2019 8:29 utc | 147

@134 c1ue

IANAL, however I do notice what those with a large legal dept. do-

Speaking in December, he said that Google may consider withdrawing its news aggregator service from the EU entirely, saying that he was “deeply concerned” about the reforms.

“The possibility of us shutting down the Google News service in the EU is very real,” Gingras said, adding that Google had to take similar measures after the Spanish introduced their own copyright law in 2014.
Copyright directive ‘not in danger’ EU says, following Google backlash

Posted by: TJ | Dec 10 2019 8:30 utc | 148

SANA has published RAI's November 26 interview with Bashar al-Assad: The interview that Italian Rai News 24 refrained from broadcasting…President al-Assad: Europe was the main player in creating chaos in Syria (transcript, video).

On talking to Erdogan:

Question 7: And in the long-term, any plan of discussions between you and Mr. Erdogan?

President Assad: I wouldn’t feel proud if I have to someday. I would feel disgusted to deal with those kinds of opportunistic Islamists, not Muslims, Islamists – it’s another term, it’s a political term. But again, I always say: my job is not to be happy with what I’m doing or not happy or whatever. It’s not about my feelings, it’s about the interests of Syria, so wherever our interests go, I will go.

On European role:

Question 8: In this moment, when Europe looks at Syria, apart from the considerations about the country, there are two major issues: one is refugees, and the other one is the Jihadists or foreign fighters coming back to Europe. How do you see these European worries?

President Assad: We have to start with a simple question: who created this problem? Why do you have refugees in Europe? It’s a simple question: because of terrorism that’s being supported by Europe – and of course the United States and Turkey and others – but Europe was the main player in creating chaos in Syria. So, what goes around comes around.

Question 9: Why do you say it was the main player?

President Assad: Because they publicly supported, the EU supported the terrorists in Syria from day one, week one or from the very beginning. They blamed the Syrian government, and some regimes like the French regime sent armaments, they said – one of their officials – I think their Minister of Foreign Affairs, maybe Fabius said “we send.” They sent armaments; they created this chaos. That’s why a lot of people find it difficult to stay in Syria; millions of people couldn’t live here so they had to get out of Syria.

On mistakes:

Question 15: Mr. President, after nine years of war, you are speaking about the mistakes of the others. I would like you to speak about your own mistakes, if any. Is there something you would have done in a different way, and which is the lesson learned that can help your country?

President Assad: <…>

Two things we faced during this war: the first one was extremism. The extremism started in this region in the late 60s and accelerated in the 80s, especially the Wahabi ideology. If you want to talk about mistakes in dealing with this issue: then yes, I will say we were very tolerant of something very dangerous. This is a big mistake we committed over decades; I’m talking about different governments, including myself before this war.

The second one, when you have people who are ready to revolt against the order, to destroy public properties, to commit vandalism and so on, they work against their country, they are ready to go and work for foreign powers – foreign intelligence, they ask for external military interference against their country. So, this is another question: how did we have those? If you ask me how, I would tell you that before the war we had more than 50,000 outlaws that weren’t captured by the police for example; for those outlaws, their natural enemy is the government because they don’t want to go to prison.

Posted by: S | Dec 10 2019 9:19 utc | 149

Here's a taste of Japan's economic "secret sauce":

Seven-Eleven Japan failed to pay at least ¥490 million in overtime over several decades

Abenomics, NIRP, QE... all of this is bullshit. The link above mentions the real reason Japan stays afloat.

Posted by: vk | Dec 10 2019 11:27 utc | 150

Mark my words here at this time: Nancy Pelosi has accomplished two things today: 1) she protected her legacy by going THROUGH THE MOTIONS of impeachment; and, 2) she is flouting justice and protecting Trump for re-election by NOT including any criminal acts in the Articles of Impeachment.

This is now officially A CHARADE and a total sham, but mostly, it's an outrage against the Rule of Law. She should have included 1) Campaign finance violations; 2) Bribery and 3) Obstruction of justice, and I would have gone further to include emolluments violations AND had Mueller done his job THOROUGHLY and challenged certain ally foreign obstacles and subterfuge, and exposed everything, I believe TREASON could have been added to the list of crimes.

Nancy Pelosi is a Zionist shill and she's protecting the Zionist Chosen One, Trump, albeit she had no choice but to go through Impeachment-lite so history could reflect she did something in regards to the Constitutional breaches. Trump will come out of this unscathed.

SHAME ON HER!

The object of justice is reparation for the victim or injured party and society, i.e. righting a WRONG to a person and protecting society, and punishing the wrongdoer to ensure that he never resorts to such breach of the law again, while setting an example that demonstrates that NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW OR OUT OF ITS REACH. This conclusion by Nancy Pelosi is A TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE.

The Democrats will come to regret letting Trump off the hook. This is by far the worst mistake they've made since Trump took office.

They deserve all the Trump-karma still to unfold! Damn the entire two-sided Congress minus a few exceptions...to hell with the lot of them!

Posted by: Circe | Dec 10 2019 17:18 utc | 151

One more fact; besides Nancy Pelosi, and there are many gatekeepers protecting the Chosen Trump, William Barr, is the ultimate gatekeeper. Therefore Trump will emerge with a slap on the wrist and Trumpkarma will expand exponentially!

There is no justice, there is no democracy and Amerikkka deserves Trumpkarma.

Posted by: Circe | Dec 10 2019 18:35 utc | 152

Max B.: I'm the victim of US government persecution!!!!

Some wrongheaded sympathizers compared to Max B. to Assange

First they came for Assange ... Then they came for Blumenthal...."
And Max B. accepted that comparison and even promoted such comparisons by saying things like: while in jail (for just two days) "I thought a lot about Assange".

Now we find, only a few weeks later that the US Government has declined to pursue the case.

PERSECUTION? Like Assange? ... Really?

LMAO

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Max B. is still spinning, though. He says the charges were "dropped" when in fact the government declined to prosecute.

Charges are said to be "dropped" when they are withdrawn or dismissed.

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And now Max B. finally admits that he participated in the food delivery to the Embassy!! That was an open secret which Max B. danced around in previous interviews - because he knows that there's a difference between activism and reporting.

Max B. was likely charged for his activism.

This whole sad affair raises some difficult questions:

> Did Max's powerful father (via the Clintons) pull strings for Max? Did he get the charges dropped initially? Did he arrange to reinstate (for PR purposes) and/or drop the charges (again)?

> Does Max's father/Clintons help Max in his publishing efforts? Or are we to believe that Max's Dad is like Joe Biden - completely unconcerned/unaware with what his son does?

PS. The charges against Max's friend Ben Rubenstein were also dropped.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 10 2019 19:37 utc | 153

@ circe - give an ovation for the one party system you have - the war party!!!

Posted by: james | Dec 10 2019 19:52 utc | 154

james 154

Including economic war - I just saw that on the same day the Dems tender their impeachment nonsense that same congressional delegation agreed on a globalization deal with the administration, an "improved" NAFTA. No partisan squabbling must get in the way of the overall bipartisan criminal onslaught.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/10/lopez-obrador-usmca-signing-tuesday-in-mexico-city-080043

Posted by: Russ | Dec 10 2019 20:00 utc | 155

Lavrov's visiting the Beast. Here's a short vid on what he might try to accomplish. And since the meeting's already ended, here's a report on the outcome. His direct, non-muddling of language message to the Outlaw US Empire's Congress:

"Allegations of Russian interference in US internal affairs are ‘baseless’: 'We have not seen any evidence, because it does not exist.'"

Meanwhile, Germans are having a fit about proposed illegal sanctions targeting European and German sovereignty over the Nord Stream 2 gas project. IMO, it's important to note that the application of sanctions is bipartisan in their scope, an important indication that Trump cannot control his own party.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 10 2019 20:28 utc | 156

@ 155 russ.... a quote from your link - "Congressional Democrats' top demands appear to have made it into the final version of USMCA, including a provision that allows American inspectors to enter Mexican factories to check for labor violations."

maybe the war party can make a demand that they get to inspect the factories where boeing parts and etc. are made too? lol... wouldn't hurt.. i don't know if the FAA would allow it!!!

Posted by: james | Dec 10 2019 20:44 utc | 157

karlof1 @156

IMO the Lavrov-Pompeo presser is notable mostly for Lavrov's discussion of Russiagate (about 6 minutes in).

Lavrov tells us that the Russian's repeatedly sought to clarify their noninterference by publishing correspondence - which the Trump Administration didn't respond to. And he actual mentions McCarthyism!

Wait, wot?

Yeah, during the worst of the Russiagate accusations, Trump wouldn't do things that would've helped to prove that Russiagate was a farce!!

So, during the election, Trump called on Putin to publish Hillary's emails (the very act of making such a request is likely illegal because at the time it was known that her emails contained highly classified info) but he wouldn't accept Russia's publication of exculpatory info about Russiagate?!?!

This would cause cognitive dissonance galore in an Americans that hear it - so one can be sure that it will not be reported.

Occam's razor: CIA-MI6, with approval of US Deep State (Clintons, Bush, McCain, Brennan, Mueller, etc.), meddled to elect Trump and pointed fingers at Russia to initiate a new McCarthyism.

Meanwhile in bizarroland (aka USA), Barr says Russiagate is a fantasy based on FBI "bad faith" - yet Pompeo still presses on with the "Russia meddled" bullshit.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 10 2019 21:06 utc | 158

@ Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 10 2019 20:28 utc | 156 with the follow up to the Lavrov/Pompeo/Trump meeting....thanks for that.

It doesn't seem like much positioning has changed on either side but it is a good sign that they are talking.

The continued attempt by late empire, pushing its LNG alternative, to stop the Russian pipeline to the EU is going to be a crisis soon, IMO

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 10 2019 21:07 utc | 159

FISA Report Reveals Clinton Meddled In 2016 Election

Clintonites need not worry - Trump WILL NOT "lock her up".

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 10 2019 21:09 utc | 160

someone at emptywheel woke up and smelt the coffee, lol...

" will rogers quote “I’m not a member of any organized political party…. I’m a Democrat.”

“Democrats never agree on anything, that’s why they’re Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they’d be Republicans.”

bmaz quote - Both are still so evidently true. Watching this morning’s “impeachment hearing” makes me want to puke. It is one of the most incompetent shit shows in history. The House Democrats, as led by Nancy Pelosi, and in this case Jerry Nadler too, could not legally litigate or argue their way out of a thin and wet paper sack. It is seriously pathetic and embarrassing."

no need to worry.. the witch hunt on russia will continue unabated at emptywheel... that is what they live for, lol..

Posted by: james | Dec 10 2019 21:47 utc | 161

another day and another mass shooting in the usa... things are falling apart badly in the usa at this point...
NJ shooting: 6 dead, including officer and suspects, after intense gun battle in Jersey City

Posted by: james | Dec 10 2019 21:57 utc | 162

@ Posted by: james | Dec 10 2019 21:57 utc | 162 with the mass shooting notation in NJ.

I read about that while it still was an active happening. There is a lot of cognitive dissonance in the US and what doesn't express itself in mass shootings is expressing itself in suicides.

Think about the extent of ongoing brainwashing that has Americans believing religiously in left/right versus the reality of top/bottom.

Cognitive capture by a deluded society is why Rome fell and I believe we are seeing a repeat now but on a world wide scale.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 10 2019 23:00 utc | 163

yes, i agree with you psychohistorian... it is very sad to watch in real time... i wish it was different...

Posted by: james | Dec 11 2019 0:15 utc | 164

Reached this through Pepe Escobar's Facebook:

HONG KONG: FORGET THE FANTASIES, THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN

If the democracy cultists had not been brain-deadened by their chosen opiate, the answers to “What’s next?” should be quite clear. They are:

• Whatever happens, China has the final say over Hong Kong. This is an ineluctable fact of sovereign legality, geopolitics and plain political reality. Nothing major can happen in or to HK without Beijing’s say-so. Their democracy high has made many forget this fact.

• In fact, the Chinese leadership has already spelled out what will happen -- and at the highest, most authoritative level. According to the recent 4th Plenum of the Communist Party Central Committee --

1) One Country, Two Systems will be “upheld and perfected.” “Perfected” means Beijing will work on OCTS until it works the way the CPC wants it to -- and not how Hong Kong neocolonialists or their Anglo-US allies wish.

2) Accordingly, Hong Kong will be “strictly governed,” according to relevant laws, to “safeguard (its) long-term prosperity and stability.” “Strictly governed” implies a newly proactive role for Beijing in HK affairs, as opposed to its hitherto hands-off approach. This will likely happen behind the scenes.

3) Significantly, “a sound legal system and enforcement mechanism for safeguarding national security” will be established in the SAR. The implication is that one way or another, a national-security law (Art. 23) will be passed in HK, as required by its Basic Law. The absence of one has been the biggest gap in Hong Kong’s defence against subversion since reunification in 1997. Beijing may also examine how Art. 18 of the Basic law can be activated. It would enable central authorities to declare an emergency in Hong Kong and apply national laws in the SAR.

4) Beijing will also “enhance the system and mechanism over the appointment of HK’s chief executive and principal officials … and the system over the interpretation of the Basic Law by the National People’s Congress." That will “enable the central government to exercise its authority as stipulated in the constitution and the Basic Law.” Meaning: Beijing will tighten its oversight and control of the appointment of top HK officials, as well as interpretation of the Basic Law.

5) Central authorities will “strengthen national education” in Hong Kong, “especially among civil servants and youth … in order to boost their national consciousness and patriotic spirit.”

[...]

Since reunification in 1997, the CPC has allowed the SAR authorities to manage local affairs with near-total leeway. Riddled with pro-West, Sinophobic neocolonialists, they have failed miserably. The biggest disaster areas are the schools, judiciary, media and the civil service itself. The culmination has been the Black Terror of the past 6 months.

The diagnosis of this guy is the same as mine, as I've commented here in this blog many times before on the posts related to HK.

If the CCP implements those policies, that would mean the beginning of the end of the Hongkonger capitalist class. Double loss for the protesters, double the humiliation.

Posted by: vk | Dec 11 2019 1:48 utc | 165

Pelosi basically exonerated Trump of all criminal activity.

Trump smells weakness like a shark pounces on a thin razor cut to totally eviscerate all.

By the time the Senate trial comes along Trump will have made mince meat out of the joke that is Impeachment-lite and the Republicans will be ready to serve it up to the dum-dum Democrats who were crying bribery and obstruction and then squeaked like mice when it came time to deliver an indictment.

There is no justice or democracy. Trump has made a mockery of the law, and he can literally get away with anything. Democrats demonstrated they have no balls and surrendered to him even more power.

If a Democratic President had behaved as Trump has; Republicans would have mopped the floor with him. It's sick how easily Democrats capitulated holding so many cards. So much for: NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW! Impeachment-lite is a FARCE and a gift to Trump and he'll revel in it like a pig's snout in a mess of slop.

Posted by: Circe | Dec 11 2019 3:22 utc | 166

@ 166 circe... a number of moa posters saw the stupidity in this whole process, leading with b who said it off the top.. too bad some folks are still attached to the idea that the system works.. it ain't working and collapse is the most likely answer..

Posted by: james | Dec 11 2019 3:30 utc | 167

@c1ue 115
You are correct on my statement that LNG prices were low was not well stated since I was referring to compared to historical LNG prices and not compared to Russian pipeline gas, which was the context of my comment.

Posted by: Schmoe | Dec 11 2019 4:31 utc | 168

Below is a small report on Reuters about Russia, Turkey and Iran coordination in reclaiming Syria territory

"
NUR-SULTAN (Reuters) - Russia, Turkey and Iran are concerned about the increased presence of terrorist groups in Syria’s Idlib province, the three countries said after talks in Kazakhstan, pledging to coordinate actions aimed at eliminating the militants.

Moscow, Ankara and Tehran “highlighted the necessity to establish calm on the ground”, the trio said in a joint statement after the talks, also attended by representatives of the Damascus government and the Syrian armed opposition.

The three countries also said they rejected attempts to create “new realities on the ground, including illegitimate self-rule initiatives” and that they were opposed to the illegal seizure and transfer of Syrian oil revenues.

Commenting on the work of the Syrian Constitutional Committee, the three nations said it should be governed by a sense of “compromise and constructive engagement” without foreign interference and externally imposed timelines.
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 11 2019 11:05 utc | 169

Below is another Reuters posting that supports my contention that China intends to keep its core banking system under government control

"
BEIJING (Reuters) - China finance ministry will tighten controls on ownership transfers of state-owned financial institutions, a notice released on Wednesday said.

Effective Dec. 20, any capital increase or share sales of state-owned financial institutions that could cause the government to lose its controlling stake would need final approvals by local bureaus of the finance ministry and local governments, according to the notice.
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 11 2019 11:07 utc | 170

The Atlantic, Story by Franklin Foer
DECEMBER 3, 2019
Until the presidency of Donald Trump, the United States served as both Ukraine’s protector and its ethical conscience. In the years after the Iraq War, amid a global turn toward illiberalism, Ukraine was perhaps the place where American idealism burned brightest. Under the pressure of the State Department, and prodded by a restless and dissatisfied public, the Ukrainian government fitfully traveled in the democratic direction that Washington guided it in.

Donald Trump has gravely threatened this trajectory.
===========
My head is swimming. Is it poetry or prose? Magical realism or fantasy?

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Dec 11 2019 16:40 utc | 171

Non-peer reviewed reports are emerging of Hungarian scientists finding a new subatomic particle - X17 - 'X' for unknown and 17 for 17 mega-whatever-electron-volt energy levels and are supposing it to be evidence of a fifth physical force that is related to 'dark matter' that comprises 85% of all matter in the universe (according to the report). The other forces are: gravity; electromagnetic; strong nuclear forces and weak nuclear forces. This new force must be the long missing force of chaos, that the Greeks divined as what the universe was organised from, ruled by various gods, giants and other immortals having various powers over natural phenomenon. Some suspicion is that some Hungarian scientists have time on their hands.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Dec 11 2019 17:37 utc | 172

Below is a ZH link to a Boeing MAX 737 FAA memo coming to light today

Boeing-FAA Cabal Exposed: Internal Document Shows FAA Ignored 737 MAX Safety Risks

The take away quote
"
WSJ reporters got their hands on an FAA internal report that was published back in November 2018. An internal FAA analysis of the Lion Air cash, it's expected to be released in full for the House committee hearing Wednesday.

According to the report, experts spotted the risks in the 737 MAX 8's anti-stall system, MCAS, and warned that these planes could average more than one crash a year.

In an aviation industry that sometimes goes almost a decade without an accident, these numbers are obviously unacceptable.

On Tuesday, an FAA spokesman delivered a statement to WSJ: "It was clear from the beginning that an unsafe condition existed," adding that the analysis "provided additional context in helping determine the mitigation action." In an email, the spokesman said such analyses tend to overstate risk because they take the most conservative approach and because specifically identified problems likely appeared more serious than they did in the operating fleet.
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 11 2019 17:39 utc | 173

Below is a link to a good summary of the US Fed REPO situation

When It Becomes Serious You Have To Lie: Update On The Repo Fiasco

The take away quote
"
Almost three months after water stains first appeared in the overnight funding markets, the Fed has stepped in on a daily basis to “re-paint the ceiling” and the problem has appeared to vanish. Yet, every day the stain reappears and the Fed’s work begins anew. One is left to wonder why the leak hasn’t been fixed.
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 11 2019 17:45 utc | 174

News from COP25 Summit....

This will be more or less like this: what will be collected with taxes on consumption of first necessity (sacrifices must be made) will finance the greatest industrial reconversion in history without diminishing the profits of large companies. We will pay the usual ones.

https://twitter.com/jorgemadrid_/status/1204811933536395264

Meanwhile, "personalities" are arriving in the COP25 to reinforce the message of the powerful...that "sacrifices must be made"...

Some have a good record reinforcing the messages of the powerful, always against the masses, especially those who try to rebel and fight for sovereignty...and so they are arriving those who also performed in the Virgin concert in Cucutá which acted as a cover for the intent on invasion on Venezuela...recommending strong leadership to convince the citizenry that "sacrificies must be made"....meanwhile.... they do not want to even hear of sacrifying...for starters they do not even bother paying the Spanish treasure... (para qué, oiga, si me patrocinan los grandes?)

https://twitter.com/sacedator/status/1204410450479157252

https://twitter.com/Lucas_DSE/status/1204435765570232320

https://twitter.com/quietorl/status/1204400684025683969

https://twitter.com/Yo_Soy_Asin/status/1204363153871720449

https://twitter.com/lataninad/status/1204375460198699008

Meanwhile...Han Solo has arrived in his Halcon Milenaire...which does not contamine at all...to reinforce the message..."sacrifices must be made"

https://twitter.com/sebercast/status/1204683282757148672

Meanwhile....in Gretaworld....Already nominated person of the year...

https://twitter.com/ciudadfutura/status/1204767121596698626

https://twitter.com/ciudadfutura/status/1204471473114689536

And what this all try to hide....

Rich people pollute more than the poor, rich countries more than the poor, and the United States army more than all together.

https://twitter.com/FlixUjo/status/1204887041231720449

Posted by: Sasha | Dec 11 2019 22:46 utc | 175

US Congress continues to shoot itself in the head with its illegal sanctions:

"The latest US defense-policy bill barring the use of state funds to buy Chinese buses and rail cars has triggered strong dissatisfaction among targeted Chinese companies. Some warned that such way of suppressing Chinese companies could lead to the loss of hundreds of jobs in the US, crippling US' competitiveness and inflicting massive harm on the US economy.

"The unfair decision, 'crafted from special interests,' could 'squash competition in the electric bus sector … and undercut the US' [efforts] against climate change,' new energy vehicle (NEV) maker BYD, one of the Chinese firms affected by the bill, said in a statement sent to the Global Times on Wednesday."

Clinton's not there to rally the troops, but the D & R-Party's neocons continue to escalate tensions with Russia & China as was planned as outlined during 2016.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 11 2019 22:52 utc | 176

Important news going under the radar:

"Julian Assange absolutely engaged in journalism in his work as WikiLeaks founder and editor-in-chief. This decision by @pressfreedom to not list Assange as one of over 250 journalists imprisoned bolsters the confidence of Trump officials prosecuting him.'

IMO, press freedom is outed as yet another tool of the Evil Outlaw US Empire.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 11 2019 23:30 utc | 177

The problem with nationalism is that at few you scratch...all starts to fade...and it is all about money...the country/region gvies them a damn....

What the carnage in the Ukraine was for, as always happens with nationalism, plundering...
Know what the Maidan was about ( transferring money from some elites to another, while achieving free pass to plunder at whatever cost...even nationals´ lives in the thousands of hundreds...) and how the Maidan elites have their children abroad, who, apart from not even knowing where the Ukraine really is...live and study mainly in the US and UK ( from years ago even before Maidan...), all speak Russian ( and there are some who even prefer English...), and do not even know a word in Ukrainian...Some even have US citizenship the whole family...

Where Do the Children of Ukrainian Maidanists Study?


But...it seems that this is not only a tendence in the Ukraine...but in the Russian world...In fact, it seems that in the UK they party together the children of Poroshenko and those of Russian oligarchs...and they party in Russian...of course...

Read that Lavrov´s daughter have US citizenship....No idea if that is true, but in case it is, for what? ( the more I admire this man, it is beyond me...)

Then, you have the daughter of former and late mayor of Moscow...already millionaire at 25 and holding various curious citizenship....Then, his father, who recently passed away, is put as an example in Russian public TV...

https://twitter.com/RidusNews/status/1130796895478140929

https://twitter.com/Radio_BFM/status/975689022369599490

https://twitter.com/kommersant/status/1187259946473345025

Thus, they are transnational, as it is big capital in late capitalism....

No wonder that Kiselev made a video especially to defend the demolition of the pension system in France...Hence the new affinities of Macron with Putin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_VOdGjXto

After all...this is a transnational policy...

https://twitter.com/rianru/status/1204750184879738881

No wonder, after all, they get all along so well....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1204534129024491521

He said Zhirinovsky, the man who has direct line with nationalists, Parubyi and Avakov, but also with Puigdemont..., that, in the end, there will not be war between Russian, China and the US....

Thus...what was all this theather about? I will tell you, to screw us... more if possible...while we were busy fearing WWIII and the end of the world by Nuclear Armagedon or Climate Extinction, they were preparing the decrees to squeeze us to the skin...

In France, Spain, or any other place in the EU, there is no money for pensions, health service, or to rise a bit the frozen wages of the workers, because they waste our money in their fascistic and military adventures abroad...And I say our money, because, as you could easily imagine, it is not the money of people who hold Chipriote or US citizenship...Thus, as you can test, out money finances right now the welfare of the children of Maidanist elites to the price that probably your children can not even finish their carrers at home because of the rising university taxes...

Since 2014, when the regime change operation took place in Kiev, the EU and the United States have provided Ukraine with no less than $ 20 billion in military and economic aid, at the rate of six billion from Washington and twelve billion from the Union European, according to the estimate of two senior American officials (David Holmes and Fiona Hill) responsible for such help. Ten thousand dead later, it is confirmed that all this has not served the EU at all (it has served NATO that maintains its usefulness by concealing its “brain death” and artificially maintaining the east / west division), and it seems to advance in the common sense that stability in the European continent depends on the solution of the Ukrainian conflict and the construction of that “new architecture”, which Macron mentions now and which in Moscow has been requested for almost thirty years, since the Paris Charter for the new Europe of the OSCE.


https://twitter.com/AgitPropArchive/status/1204369496615636993

Posted by: Sasha | Dec 11 2019 23:48 utc | 178

The problem with nationalism is that at few you scratch...all starts to fade...and it is all about money...the country/region gvies them a damn....

What the carnage in the Ukraine was for, as always happens with nationalism, plundering...
Know what the Maidan was about ( transferring money from some elites to another, while achieving free pass to plunder at whatever cost...even nationals´ lives in the thousands of hundreds...) and how the Maidan elites have their children abroad, who, apart from not even knowing where the Ukraine really is...live and study mainly in the US and UK ( from years ago even before Maidan...), all speak Russian ( and there are some who even prefer English...), and do not even know a word in Ukrainian...Some even have US citizenship the whole family...

Where Do the Children of Ukrainian Maidanists Study?


But...it seems that this is not only a tendence in the Ukraine...but in the Russian world...In fact, it seems that in the UK they party together the children of Poroshenko and those of Russian oligarchs...and they party in Russian...of course...

Read that Lavrov´s daughter have US citizenship....No idea if that is true, but in case it is, for what? ( the more I admire this man, it is beyond me...)

Then, you have the daughter of former and late mayor of Moscow...already millionaire at 25 and holding various curious citizenship....Then, his father, who recently passed away, is put as an example in Russian public TV...

https://twitter.com/RidusNews/status/1130796895478140929

https://twitter.com/Radio_BFM/status/975689022369599490

https://twitter.com/kommersant/status/1187259946473345025

Thus, they are transnational, as it is big capital in late capitalism....

No wonder that Kiselev made a video especially to defend the demolition of the pension system in France...Hence the new affinities of Macron with Putin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_VOdGjXto

After all...this is a transnational policy...

https://twitter.com/rianru/status/1204750184879738881

No wonder they get all along so well....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1204534129024491521

He said Zhirinovsky, the man who has direct line with nationalists, Parubyi and Avakov, but also with Puigdemont..., that, in the end, there will not be war between Russian, China and the US....

Thus...what was all this theather about? I will tell you, to screw us... more if possible...while we were busy fearing WWIII and the end of the world by Nuclear Armagedon or Climate Extinction, they were preparing the decrees to squeeze us to the skin...

In France, Spain, or any other place in the EU, there is no money for pensions, health service, or to rise a bit the frozen wages of the workers, because they waste our money in their fascistic and military adventures abroad...And I say our money, because, as you could easily imagine, it is not the money of people who hold Chipriote or US citizenship...Thus, as you can test, out money finances right now the welfare of the children of Maidanist elites to the price that probably your children can not even finish their carrers at home because of the rising university taxes...

Since 2014, when the regime change operation took place in Kiev, the EU and the United States have provided Ukraine with no less than $ 20 billion in military and economic aid, at the rate of six billion from Washington and twelve billion from the Union European, according to the estimate of two senior American officials (David Holmes and Fiona Hill) responsible for such help. Ten thousand dead later, it is confirmed that all this has not served the EU at all (it has served NATO that maintains its usefulness by concealing its “brain death” and artificially maintaining the east / west division), and it seems to advance in the common sense that stability in the European continent depends on the solution of the Ukrainian conflict and the construction of that “new architecture”, which Macron mentions now and which in Moscow has been requested for almost thirty years, since the Paris Charter for the new Europe of the OSCE.


https://twitter.com/AgitPropArchive/status/1204369496615636993

Posted by: Sasha | Dec 11 2019 23:56 utc | 179

The problem with nationalism is that at few you scratch...all starts to fade...and it is all about money...the country/region gvies them a damn....

What the carnage in the Ukraine was for, as always happens with nationalism, plundering...
Know what the Maidan was about ( transferring money from some elites to another, while achieving free pass to plunder at whatever cost...even nationals´ lives in the thousands of hundreds...) and how the Maidan elites have their children abroad, who, apart from not even knowing where the Ukraine really is...live and study mainly in the US and UK ( from years ago even before Maidan...), all speak Russian ( and there are some who even prefer English...), and do not even know a word in Ukrainian...Some even have US citizenship the whole family...

Where Do the Children of Ukrainian Maidanists Study?


But...it seems that this is not only a tendence in the Ukraine...but in the Russian world...In fact, it seems that in the UK they party together the children of Poroshenko and those of Russian oligarchs...and they party in Russian...of course...

Read that Lavrov´s daughter have US citizenship....No idea if that is true, but in case it is, for what? ( the more I admire this man, it is beyond me...)

Then, you have the daughter of former and late mayor of Moscow...already millionaire at 25 and holding various curious citizenship....Then, his father, who recently passed away, is put as an example in Russian public TV...

https://twitter.com/RidusNews/status/1130796895478140929

https://twitter.com/Radio_BFM/status/975689022369599490

https://twitter.com/kommersant/status/1187259946473345025

Thus, they are transnational, as it is big capital in late capitalism....

No wonder that Kiselev made a video especially to defend the demolition of the pension system in France...Hence the new affinities of Macron with Putin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_VOdGjXto

After all...this is a transnational policy...

https://twitter.com/rianru/status/1204750184879738881

No wonder they get all along so well....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1204534129024491521

He said Zhirinovsky, the man who has direct line with nationalists, Parubyi and Avakov, but also with Puigdemont..., that, in the end, there will not be war between Russian, China and the US....

Thus...what was all this theather about? I will tell you, to screw us... more if possible...while we were busy fearing WWIII and the end of the world by Nuclear Armagedon or Climate Extinction, they were preparing the decrees to squeeze us to the skin...

In France, Spain, or any other place in the EU, there is no money for pensions, health service, or to rise a bit the frozen wages of the workers, because they waste our money in their fascistic and military adventures abroad...And I say our money, because, as you could easily imagine, it is not the money of people who hold Chipriote or US citizenship...Thus, as you can test, out money finances right now the welfare of the children of Maidanist elites to the price that probably your children can not even finish their carrers at home because of the rising university taxes...

Since 2014, when the regime change operation took place in Kiev, the EU and the United States have provided Ukraine with no less than $ 20 billion in military and economic aid, at the rate of six billion from Washington and twelve billion from the Union European, according to the estimate of two senior American officials (David Holmes and Fiona Hill) responsible for such help. Ten thousand dead later, it is confirmed that all this has not served the EU at all (it has served NATO that maintains its usefulness by concealing its “brain death” and artificially maintaining the east / west division), and it seems to advance in the common sense that stability in the European continent depends on the solution of the Ukrainian conflict and the construction of that “new architecture”, which Macron mentions now and which in Moscow has been requested for almost thirty years, since the Paris Charter for the new Europe of the OSCE.


https://twitter.com/AgitPropArchive/status/1204369496615636993

Posted by: Sasha | Dec 11 2019 23:59 utc | 180

Posted three time a long post with multiple links and dissapeared.

May have been confused with spam, or have been banned?

Posted by: Sasha | Dec 12 2019 0:07 utc | 181

@ John Brewster and James

I agree with both of you about the pretentious posturing and tendentiousness of one who shall be nameless herein.

I have had encounters at other sites, with two others who sounded just the same as our local annoyance, and who in fact might very well have been the same person who is plaguing us here.

I believe his intention is to denigrate the site in the eyes of potential new readers, and thus to reduce its popularity and reputation.

As difficult as it may be, I think that the best way to handle the problem is to refuse to engage with it, no matter how nasty the personal insults may become.

Posted by: AntiSpin | Dec 12 2019 3:32 utc | 182

@ Posted by: Sasha | Dec 12 2019 0:07 utc | 181 who wrote
"
Posted three time a long post with multiple links and dissapeared.

May have been confused with spam, or have been banned?
"

May I suggest you go read the latest posting by b

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/12/how-moon-of-alabama-is-made-re-up.html

and develop a bit of patience as I see all 3 of your lengthy comments have shown up

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 12 2019 3:41 utc | 183

Below is a Xinhuanet posting about the joint statement on Syria at the 14th round of the Astana talks

"
NUR-SULTAN, Dec. 11 (Xinhua) -- Iran, Russia and Turkey on Wednesday adopted a joint statement on Syria at the 14th round of Astana talks held in Nur-Sultan, Kazakhstan.

"Iran, Russia and Turkey, as guarantor countries of the Astana format, confirmed their continued commitment to the sovereignty, independence, unity and territorial integrity of Syria," the statement read.

The three guarantor countries rejected all illegal self-government initiatives under the pretext of combating terrorism, and expressed their determination to resist separatist plans aimed at undermining the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Syria and threatening the national security of neighboring countries, the statement said.

The three countries expressed their concerns over the increasing terrorist activities in the Syrian province of Idlib, adding that they have reviewed in detail the situation in the Idlib de-escalation area and highlighted the necessity of establishing calm on the ground, according to the statement.

The three countries said they would continue cooperation in eliminating terrorist groups in Syria, including the Islamic State, Al-Nusra Front, and other terrorists groups as designated by the United Nations.

The guarantor countries said they would take measures to ensure that the civilians in both the Idlib de-escalation zone and the surrounding area were protected.

The three sides expressed their opposition against the illegal seizure and distribution of income from the sale of oil which belongs to Syria.

They also denounced Israel's military attacks in Syria, which are "in violation of the international law and international humanitarian law and undermining the sovereignty of Syria and neighboring countries as well as endangering the stability and security in the region."

Iran, Russia and Turkey called on the international community to facilitate the safe and voluntary return of internally displaced Syrian refugees while discussing initiatives to organize international conferences to achieve the end.

The three sides also confirmed their commitment to continuing efforts for the release of Syrian detainees or abductees.

The statement said the next international meeting on Syria in the "Astana format" will be held in Nur-Sultan in March 2020.

The 14th round of talks on Syria closed here on Wednesday. The two-day event was attended by Iran, Turkey and Russia, as well as representatives of the Syrian government and the opposition. Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and the United Nations also joined as observers.

The process toward a peaceful settlement in Syria, also known as the Astana process, was launched in January 2017 by Russia, Iran and Turkey in Astana, the capital of Kazakhstan, which has been renamed Nur-Sultan.
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 12 2019 4:39 utc | 184

Below is another Xinhuanet posting about a news conference held after the Astana conference about the US and others presence in Syria

"
NUR-SULTAN, Dec. 12 (Xinhua) -- Russian and Syrian representatives condemned here on Wednesday U.S. military presence and oil plunder in Syria.

"The U.S. military presence in Syria is absolutely unacceptable," Alexander Lavrentyev, Russia's special envoy for Syria, said at a press conference following the 14th round of Astana talks held here on Dec. 10-11.

"U.S. military forces and other small forces of the international coalition should leave the Syrian territory. This is the only way to resolve the remaining differences between Kurds and the central government," Lavrentyev said.

Bashar Jaafari, Syria's permanent representative to the United Nations (UN), accused the U.S. troops of looting Syrian oil facilities and deposits.

The U.S. military occupied oil and gas wells in northeastern Syria and sold Syrian natural resources to Turkey, plundering Syria's revenues, Jaafari said.

He added that the Syrian government, together with its allies, has the right to fight against terrorists in the northern Syrian province of Idlib.

"When Americans killed al-Baghdadi, they showed it in a Hollywood style, making themselves heroes. But when the Syrian government fights against terrorists, everyone tries to hold it accountable. This is international hypocrisy. There is no solution to the Idlib issue without the elimination of terrorists," he said.

U.S. President Donald Trump, after declaring the intention to withdraw all U.S. forces from eastern Syria, said in October at a cabinet meeting that some troops would stay to "secure the oil."

Following Trump's remarks, the Pentagon sought to bring clarity on Nov. 13 by insisting that the "mission remains unchanged," and that the U.S. troops were in Syria solely to fight against the Islamic State. However, Trump on the same day insisted that the U.S. troops remained in Syria "only for the oil."

The 14th round of Astana talks was attended by Iran, Turkey and Russia, as well as representatives of the Syrian government and the opposition. Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq and the UN also joined as observers.

The process toward a peaceful settlement in Syria, also known as the Astana process, was launched in January 2017 by Russia, Iran and Turkey in Astana, the capital of Kazakhstan, which has been renamed Nur-Sultan.
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 12 2019 4:42 utc | 185

Below is a link to Nature about cave paintings that are 44,000 years old.

Indonesian rock art dated to 44,000 years old seems to show mythological figures in a hunting scene.

Having been raised in monotheism and still having that creationist BS thrown at me, I see reports like that linked to above and just shake my head in disbelief about how much of humanity lives in such denial of our species past. I continue to posit that all monotheism needs to be consciously relegated to myth status and let us return to our awe of how much we don't know of the Cosmos we live in on spaceship earth.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 12 2019 13:52 utc | 186

@psychohistorian #145
The consensus cryptocurrencies aren't fiat (after creation), but they are private. For profit - isn't actually inherently linked to private. You can have a private currency which doesn't itself make money, but helps your enterprise (say, company scrip in a company store).
The only difference between each unique snowflake cryptounit and say, artwork, is that artwork is actually unique whereas each cryptounit is interchangeable with every other even if the specific cryptounit is unique. Physical paper money, for example, is actually unique (the serial number) but coins and electronic money isn't.
In any case, the core point is still the same: the ability to transact and retain savings - en masse - in cryptocurrency cannot be allowed by any government wishing to retain control over its tax base.
As for core and mass: core are the developers. They're almost universally ultra-libertarian. Mass are the adopters - excluding the cyber criminals, they are the profiteers and somewhat legal currency transfer law evaders. These don't have an ideological framework but are happy to use the cryptocurrencies for their own benefit.
Note I exclude "investors" - those taken in by the vast hordes of cryptocurrency promoters. As with all scams/pyramid schemes, you can make money if you're in early enough, but overall - most don't.

Posted by: c1ue | Dec 12 2019 16:45 utc | 187

@TJ #148
IANAL as well, but note that I specifically highlighted the targeting of news aggregators like Google as the target of this bill.
Google's business model is vastly different than MoA or any other non-top 500 web site.
The execution and enforcement of said regulation ultimately will be decided by court cases, but the EU's history on other matters like GDPR would make it extremely likely that its goal is fighting back against the Googles and Facebooks of the world as opposed to creating laws and tools to oppress the mass of independent publishers.
If so, I believe this is a worthy cause.
Ultimately, though, the problem with the internet is exactly the dynamic encapsulated in MoA: small groups. While b has done a laudatory job in remaining objective and bringing in information from credible sources, the MoA community itself is largely static and likely becoming more so over time.
In similarly sized groups, but with a much less objective proprietor, the outcome is ever increasing radicalization and disconnect with overall community.
Whether it is Google, FB or most other sites, the use of "analytics" leads inexorably to provocation of outrage and radicalization - because that's what makes people click and post. AI is merely identifying with what works and running with it - and so the large companies are exacerbating radicalization without likely even consciously doing so.

Posted by: c1ue | Dec 12 2019 16:53 utc | 188

@Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 12 2019 3:41 utc | 183

Well, it was not needed that the three same comments to appear, with one it was enough.( In fact, two from the three could be deleted...really, I do not see the point of having three identical long comments published...)

I asked because not so few times my comments never appeared, some so long as these ones and similarly elaborated with respect to previous reading needed and links.

Precisely, reading the hardworking process on which MoA is done, mine, being comparatively of quite smaller scale ( if not because I do not dispose of the whole day to do this...), still takes way too much time of my little spare time during the week, being myself in the obligation of attending a full time 8 hours job....To add to difficulty, consider morevoer that my dominion of English language is not even near of that of b´s...

Starting form these premises, I think it is not necessary to point ( at least, it would not be for someone like b...) how discouraging it results working in a comment for about one or two hours ( sometimes at the prcie of not doing any sport at all that day...) to then see it dissapear in the eter...

Not to mention that the dissapearing of commets can lead to misinterpretations, to the point that I directly refrain form posting here anymore links and comments to very interesting sites ( of left tendency...)which were present in comments dissapeared in the past...

Normally I never post three times the same comment, as I am already known commenter here, eventhough when I do not come here daily, but past night, taking into accunt that I am currently suffering from a accute pain in the arm, simply, did not feel like to resignate myself to lose the product of such effort in my current conditions...

Add to the impresion on that the comment will never appear, the fact that every time I have expressed here, only recently ( since for over 5 or so years haing been faithfully pro-Russian current administration...under other nicknames, at other several sites...),any criticism/doubt about the ways/steps in the Kremlin, a group of over half a dozen people here have systematically fallen on me...

With all, it is my impression, by observing the comments that appear sometimes just almost simultaneously after mine ( published or non published..), that from this group, at least one could be a moderator here...

Posted by: Sasha | Dec 12 2019 19:40 utc | 189

@ Posted by: Sasha | Dec 12 2019 19:40 utc | 189 who responded to my comment about her missing comments.

What I should have suggested, and am sorry I didn't in my earlier comment, is that I always have a text editor open that I use to construct links and so I have a links file and a comments file open and when I have spent some effort on a comment I always/most always save it to the comments file. You may want to consider doing the same and then waiting until the next day or later to see if it showed up.

Sorry to read about your pain. I have ongoing pain from my bicyclist/truck crash and have found photobiomodulation units do wonders for the pain management and healing.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 12 2019 20:44 utc | 190

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