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December 19, 2019
Open Thread 2019-75
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As I read about Boris accelerating the Brexit process, it reminds me of a point which occurred to me – seperation from UK will facilitate Europe’s movement toward constructive relationship with Russia and China. Which is where a better future lies. Posted by: jared | Dec 19 2019 17:35 utc | 1 Something that no one is discussing – the US sabotage of the WTO. Posted by: Passer by | Dec 19 2019 17:43 utc | 2 Does anyone know if Ziad has set up another SyPer website? It was a great site for operations updates despite heavily trolled comment section. Posted by: Chevrus | Dec 19 2019 17:44 utc | 3 Politico, which is fully anti Trump, just published an article referencing Giuliani’s interview w/ Shokin about Biden etc. Posted by: ptb | Dec 19 2019 17:51 utc | 4 I have been asked by a number of people whether I believe James Mesurier killed himself, or was killed by others. Posted by: Montreal | Dec 19 2019 18:46 utc | 5 Chevrus @3– Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 19 2019 19:09 utc | 6 Déjà vu in Trotskyist Land:
Can you see what’s abnormal in this article? vk @7– Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 19 2019 19:44 utc | 9 The “interim” government in Bolivia is doing pretty much what would have been expected of same in Venezuela – drastically changing the political environment with no democratically agreed mandate. Noteworthy that the grossly flawed OAS election analysis is referred to uncritically in most all corporate media updates from the country, and outlets such as Guardian and CBC close off comments for this topic. Posted by: jayc | Dec 19 2019 19:51 utc | 11 Some fool just argued to me that according to international law, the United States has no control over Syria’s oilfields. When I challenged them by asking if the Syrian government is able to exploit (ie. derive revenue) from said fields, they had the gaul to claim that the United States was occupying said fields with the permission of the government. Posted by: Maracatu | Dec 19 2019 19:58 utc | 12 There hasn’t been a president in my lifetime that couldn’t have been impeached for initiating a war without a declaration of Congress, so Trump ought to consider himself that he got the same out they all have before him. If it were up to me, he’d be impeached, convicted, and handed over to the World Court for prosecution on war crimes and crimes against humanity. Posted by: Vonu | Dec 19 2019 20:00 utc | 13 An interesting interview of journalist Tareq Haddad about his decision to resign from Newsweek over its refusal to cover the OPCW’s unfolding Syria scandal. Posted by: Red Corvair | Dec 19 2019 20:21 utc | 14 Khamenei uses the statistics published by the Outlaw US Empire to condemn it in a short vid, “41 Million people in the US suffer from hunger and lack of food security”–US Dept. of Agriculture. That number of people constituted a crisis for FDR when he delivered his One-Third of a Nation speech for his 2nd Inaugural. About four years later, FDR expanded on that issue in his Four Freedoms speech: 1.Freedom of speech; 2.Freedom of worship; 3.Freedom from want; 4.Freedom from fear. Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 19 2019 20:24 utc | 15 Fresh infographics of the Russian Ministry of Defense – the Syrian army took control of even more lands northeast of the Euphrates. The zone of American occupation is getting smaller. @ Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 19 2019 19:44 utc | 9 @Red Corvair Posted by: Cherrycoke | Dec 19 2019 21:21 utc | 18 Below is a ZH posting with a take away quote below. I posited months ago that Korea will reunite and this seems to be another step along that path Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 19 2019 21:31 utc | 19 Below is a comment I added to the old Open Thread last night that I haven’t seen reported on Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 19 2019 21:33 utc | 20 All, Posted by: WJ | Dec 19 2019 21:42 utc | 21 @2 passer by.. thanks for the link.. Posted by: james | Dec 19 2019 21:57 utc | 22 @ 21 wg… that is disconcerting… however, whoever controls the medium – youtube – controls the message, or the removal of the message as exampled here… nsa – google – til death do they part… Posted by: james | Dec 19 2019 22:01 utc | 23 @5 Montreal on James Le Mesurier. Posted by: Michael Droy | Dec 19 2019 22:05 utc | 24 @ Posted by: WJ | Dec 19 2019 21:42 utc | 21 with the reporting about YouTube deleting videos that support b’s postings Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 19 2019 22:10 utc | 25 WJ @21– Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 19 2019 22:22 utc | 26 back at https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/12/how-the-deep-state-sunk-the-democratic-party/comments/page/1/#comments Posted by: tucenz | Dec 19 2019 22:35 utc | 27 Barflies in Australia are likely very warm as Australia breaks heat record two days in a row, with today likely to make it three. Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 19 2019 22:36 utc | 28 Michael Droy @ 24: Posted by: Jen | Dec 19 2019 22:39 utc | 29 Tucenz @ 27: Posted by: Jen | Dec 19 2019 22:43 utc | 30 How the US grifters scour the world in their contemporary version of piracy. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 19 2019 22:54 utc | 31 This article contains Posted by: evilempire | Dec 19 2019 22:57 utc | 32 @27 tucenz… google-youtube-nsa hasn’t been able to scrub sana news yet… Posted by: james | Dec 19 2019 23:13 utc | 33 @ 30 jen… i get this – google-nsa – beat me to it, lol… Posted by: james | Dec 19 2019 23:15 utc | 34 vk@17, you are not seeing Putin’s point, which he also makes about the Soviet leadership in general. He is expanding the concept of multiparty as against the uniparty solution that brought the Soviet Union down. And he traces that back to Lenin. Posted by: juliania | Dec 19 2019 23:22 utc | 35 Yes, karlof1@28, the situation in Australia is dire. In reading the innings report from a cricket test between New Zealand and Australia in Perth, which is on the west coast, I saw that the temperature midfield got up to 47 degrees C – I cannot imagine playing any sport in those conditions. Posted by: juliania | Dec 19 2019 23:33 utc | 36 Yes, karlof1@28, the situation in Australia is dire. In reading the innings report from a cricket test between New Zealand and Australia in Perth, which is on the west coast, I saw that the temperature midfield got up to 47 degrees C – I cannot imagine playing any sport in those conditions. Posted by: juliania | Dec 19 2019 23:33 utc | 37 Theory stating Pelosi will never send articles of impeachment to the Senate. Posted by: Joe | Dec 19 2019 23:39 utc | 38 @Chevrus Posted by: durlin | Dec 20 2019 0:05 utc | 39 Joe @ 38
And Pelosi is now on the defensive:“I’m Not Going To Go There Anymore” – Pelosi Refuses To Answer Any More Media Questions On Impeachment Posted by: Likklemore | Dec 20 2019 0:07 utc | 40 As I expected Tulsi Gabbard is being called a fascist and more for voting Present on the House Impeachment articles. Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 20 2019 0:17 utc | 41 @ Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 20 2019 0:17 utc | 41 with a follow on to my rant about the US public getting screwed by private finance Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 20 2019 0:25 utc | 42 thanks james and Jen. I had located that quote – curiously it came up at RealClearPolitics, but when I reloaded the page it was gone! (as you noted james). However, it is not the same in meaning as what Australian lady wrote. Perhaps she paraphrased inaccurately. Posted by: tucenz | Dec 20 2019 0:27 utc | 43 Red Corvair @14: Notes Greyzone interview of Tareq Haddad Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 20 2019 0:45 utc | 44 Below is a short posting from Reuters that shows the the US can huff and puff but not blow the energy agreements of other countries away. Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 20 2019 0:49 utc | 45 Continuing @44 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 20 2019 0:52 utc | 46 Karlof…about Trump and plans to cut food stamps…Caleb Maupin has a nice piece out today on NEO…
So here we see how the poor folks are falling victim to America’s cradle to grave indoctrination system…to admire and worship the billionaires… Posted by: flankerbandit | Dec 20 2019 0:56 utc | 48 good post today from larry c johnson at sst – Provoking a War with Russia? Posted by: james | Dec 20 2019 1:02 utc | 49 psychohistorian @ 41 Posted by: Kabobyak | Dec 20 2019 1:25 utc | 50 I meant to add, b’s analysis yesterday was the best I’ve seen of how we got to this point. Many such as Dan Bongino or Lee Smith have done good work but still believe with certainty that Russia interfered in the elections. I wonder how much of their work is motivated by their strong support of Trump. Posted by: Kabobyak | Dec 20 2019 1:34 utc | 51 Latest Jimmy Dore with some advice for B. Sanders. Posted by: ben | Dec 20 2019 2:06 utc | 53 juliania @35&6– Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 20 2019 2:07 utc | 54 As a former subject of the Queen who as a teenager enjoyed waving my homemade little blue flag as she toured Auckland Domain ranks of schoolchildren back in the day, I am happy to post this link to her speech in Parliament: Posted by: juliania | Dec 20 2019 2:16 utc | 55 You are welcome, karlof1. I too amazed at Putin’s ability to connect. (And then, back in the day, she wore a white dress dotted with black polka dots.) Posted by: juliania | Dec 20 2019 2:21 utc | 56 “Journalist Tareq Haddad explains his decision to resign from Newsweek over its refusal to cover the OPCW’s unfolding Syria scandal.” Posted by: ben | Dec 20 2019 2:23 utc | 57
This is the kind of shit the mofo in Washington are making up. Posted by: denk | Dec 20 2019 3:14 utc | 58 One last item I’ll copy/paste from Putin’s presser is his answer to questions from China’s CCTV bearing in mind what has occurred since the UNGA Debate speeches in September. Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 20 2019 3:32 utc | 59 watching Putin’s annual 5-hour worldwide conference. Posted by: Klasno | Dec 20 2019 3:40 utc | 60 Hi again. I do read mostly all this stuff. I am not an expert on 90% of it so I keep my mouth shut. I miss Pavevway. I wish James would mention me in his comments sometimes. The Roach Motel at the End of the Universe Digital Currencies versus Crypto Currencies Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 20 2019 5:09 utc | 63 FWIW, Salon,com has re-opened its Comments section — as per usual, the articles are like an internal newsletter of the DNC with the requisite virulent anti-Russian hysteria … the articles have no redeeming qualities, but it’s fun to take contrary positions in the Comments, which almost always produce outraged responses. Posted by: chet380 | Dec 20 2019 5:11 utc | 64 The smallminded men and women holding power in the Outlaw US Empire are mental midgets in comparison. They are holding their compatriots hostage in their allegiance to the corruption in which they wallow and cause many deaths globally on a daily basis because they essentially trust nothing, for to have trust in anything you must first care about that thing. There’s no Love, no Trust, no Kindness, not even Kindred Spirit–they are like an alien organism, a cancer, requiring removal just like the financial parasites that are their only allies. Such a vast, sad waste. Posted by: V | Dec 20 2019 5:44 utc | 65 ben @52 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 20 2019 6:13 utc | 66 Please enjoy the following 3 minute video, “Winter in Western Armenia,” our indigenous homeland occupied by Turkey. Posted by: Telo | Dec 20 2019 6:33 utc | 67 V #63 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 20 2019 7:30 utc | 68 ooops Eastern Turkey that is. Long day and tequila slammer bleaches the grey matter. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 20 2019 7:31 utc | 69 blues #60 Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 20 2019 7:51 utc | 70 @65 Telos, Posted by: Blue Dotterel | Dec 20 2019 8:18 utc | 71 Jackrabbit @64, Posted by: WJ | Dec 20 2019 8:35 utc | 72 To me it looks mighty splendid. Posted by: Laguerre | Dec 20 2019 9:32 utc | 73 uncle tungsten | Dec 20 2019 7:30 utc | 66 Posted by: V | Dec 20 2019 9:51 utc | 74 ***Important*** Please Read. Posted by: Veritas X- | Dec 20 2019 10:07 utc | 75 blues | Dec 20 2019 4:22 utc | 60 Posted by: V | Dec 20 2019 10:09 utc | 76 Speaking of Bernie, he’s gone full Maddow on Russia many times in the past. Disappointing to see him peddling that crap to progressives, and as Caitlin Johnstone writes, it’s a big deal; pushing that narrative threatens our existence. If it were him against Trump next fall maybe I cast my vote for him, then leave the polling place feeling like I’d stepped in dog crap. Posted by: Kabobyak | Dec 20 2019 10:19 utc | 77 Veritas X- #73
Try Tierra del Fuego both Chile and Argentina. Chile was the settlement for many nazis who purchased refuge at the end of WWII. Die Weldt recently did an infamous doco on it that will make you squirm. Joe Rogan has a mighty good interview with a witness who travelled through southern Chile investigating. The filthy rich have many options and I doubt New Zealand is that high on the list for many. Is Kim Dotcom sussing it out for them? Posted by: uncle tungsten | Dec 20 2019 10:30 utc | 78 psychohistorian @ 42 says: Posted by: john | Dec 20 2019 11:39 utc | 80 @ Posted by: juliania | Dec 19 2019 23:22 utc | 35 @ John 78 @ vk | Dec 20 2019 11:51 utc | 80 Posted by: Lurk | Dec 20 2019 12:52 utc | 84 First test flight of Nasa’s Starliner reportedly suffers “off-normal insertion”. Posted by: BG | Dec 20 2019 13:08 utc | 85 Karlof1 #9 Posted by: Really?? | Dec 20 2019 13:28 utc | 86 Juliania #54 Posted by: Really?? | Dec 20 2019 13:36 utc | 87 vk #80 Posted by: Really?? | Dec 20 2019 13:45 utc | 88 Posted by: Really?? | Dec 20 2019 13:45 utc | 86 No, Really @ 86, sorry you didn’t understand. The Queen reads the government’s message; so this is, in effect, the PM, Boris Johnson laying out his stated policies for the coming administration. It is very interesting in light of what the media description of what his policies would be, particularly with respect to the health system. Would that we had similar governmental policies in place in the US! Posted by: juliania | Dec 20 2019 14:02 utc | 90 Should have said “…in light of the media description of what…” (Too many ‘whats’, sorry!) Posted by: juliania | Dec 20 2019 14:04 utc | 91 vk@80, if you narrow the frame, yes, I am sure the original plan or design looked like a commendable one – what happened was not. Your description:- Posted by: juliania | Dec 20 2019 14:30 utc | 92 WJ @70 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Dec 20 2019 15:00 utc | 93 As the clowns perform for us, they are picking our pocket: Posted by: jared | Dec 20 2019 15:04 utc | 94 @ Posted by: juliania | Dec 20 2019 14:30 utc | 90 Seems like 2020 may become referendum on Trump impeachment. Posted by: jared | Dec 20 2019 15:24 utc | 96 It occurs to me that b’s prediction that the HoR will only censure Trump may be proved correct, but in a strange way. Posted by: Patrick Armstrong | Dec 20 2019 15:30 utc | 97 I wrote earlier in the impeachment thread that if the Republicans choose to drag out the trial proceedings instead of just voting down the charges and being done with it, they’ll be running a risk of sharing opprobrium with the Democrats among the vast number of Americans who loathe this whole farce and want it to go away. About capitalism’s “necropolitics”: A very illustrative example of historical revisionism: |
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