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December 3, 2019
Cleanup On Aisle 5

ABC News @ABC – 14:57 UTC – 3 Dec 2019

Asked if the U.S. supports Iranian protesters, Pres. Trump says, "I don't want to comment on that, but the answer's no. But I don't want to comment on that." abcn.ws/2K0BLjq

CLEANUP ON AISLE 5! CLEANUP ON AISLE 5!

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump – 15:33 UTC – 3 Dec 2019

The United States of America supports the brave people of Iran who are protesting for their FREEDOM. We have under the Trump Administration, and always will!

Comments

Management Disarray

Posted by: Evelyn | Dec 3 2019 16:16 utc | 1

LOL!!!
The system is not crashing fast enough for Trump and so a little more dissonance is necessary
Trump is also quoted as saying to day that a trade deal with China may have to wait until after (s)election which is helping tank DOW more than yesterday
Can Trump piss off or confuse more folks like France with NATO friction?
Need clean up on more than Aisle 5 methinks

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 3 2019 16:27 utc | 2

I believe they need to dial back the radiation treatments.
There’s been a complete mind-wipe.
Next time send talking parrot.

Posted by: jared | Dec 3 2019 16:58 utc | 3

I don’t think trump was corrected by handlers. On the contrary, this was him fucking with them, as he always does.
He has done this exact same thing countless times in his presidency. Meanwhile, the march of waning America abroad goes on stepping.
What a genius, this prez.

Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Dec 3 2019 17:01 utc | 4

IMO, NATO’s 70th anniversary is also an occasion for clean up; Putin seems to agree:
“Needless to say, the bloc mentality stereotypes of the past cannot be a good instrument for searching for and adopting effective decisions in the rapidly changing conditions of the modern world.
“At the same time, as you know, we have repeatedly expressed our willingness to cooperate with NATO for jointly countering real threats, such as international terrorism, local armed conflicts, and WMD proliferation. We have repeatedly taken steps to meet the alliance halfway and offered it a positive agenda. We held a number of joint events but after 2008 [CIA Obama instigated] cooperation was actually curtailed because the alliance’s actions towards Russia were inappropriate, if not blatant, and didn’t take into account Russia’s interests. Nevertheless, I hope that the interests of common security, as well as the stable and peaceful future of the planet will still prevail.
“Right now we have to proceed from the fact that NATO’s expansion, the development of its military infrastructure near the Russian border, pose a potential threat to our national security. Therefore, coming back to this meeting’s agenda, I would like to note that the technical overhaul of the Russian Armed Forces has been and will remain the focus of our closest attention.”
About two months ago I linked to an article comparing the efficiency and sustainability of the Russian versus the Evil Outlaw US Empire’s military and its budget that showed Russia could continue at its current level for several more decades while the Empire was already beyond the point of continuing efficiency as its budget was also no longer sustainable. One major reason for this difference is the management styles employed, Russia’s being far and away more efficient as this excerpt notes:
“Before anything else, I would like to note that, as a follow-up to the previous meetings in this format, several hundred instructions have been given. In my opinion, it is not the number of instructions that is important but the way they are executed. Overall, the quality of execution is satisfactory. Seventy percent of the instructions are fulfilled while the others are at various stages of completion. And this is very important because it indicates that these biannual meetings in Sochi are necessary and rather efficient.
“Why? Because we know that, should something remain unaccomplished, six months later the responsible parties will have to explain why not and what needs to be done to iron out the situation.”
The rest of the discussion about Russian Navy planning is also illuminating. Certainly, one of the biggest messes on the planet is caused by the massive waste present within the Empire’s massively corrupt Military, which is a large fraction of the Corruption present within the Evil Outlaw US Empire.
As such, it’s not just one aisle within the store needing attention. Rather, it’s all the aisles within all the stores within the chain of corruption that require scrubbing followed by de-lousing.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 3 2019 17:18 utc | 5

The historical record shows that the Dulles brothers determined how the USA would act in the world toward the goal of “Global full spectrum domination.” Which has been the goal sense even before WWII.
Every single foreign policy decision was made by the “deep state” (consensus of the “The Interagency.” )of the Dulles brothers and their imperial apparatchiks in the key government positions.
The great general who brought victory over the Nazis Eisenhower did not make a single foreign policy decision he was fully under the influence of the “deep state” (imperial apparatchiks at the hart of government with their hands on the real power of the US in the form of the Dulles brothers.
When Chaney went in to the Oval Office with one sheet of paper which Bush signed and resulted in the Iraq invasion and slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent people he was following a long tradition and process established by the Dulles brothers and others.
But we should understand one thing, the US is not a democracy and its foreign policy is directed by imperial oligarchs and has been for at least 75 years.
The “deep state” is the imperial arm of US government control, they are the hired help of the oligarchy they take their orders from oligarchs only.

Posted by: Babyl-on | Dec 3 2019 17:34 utc | 6

Yet more NATO mess as Macron says it’s “brain dead” actions need cleaning up:
“French President Emmanuel Macron says #NATO needs to talk about more than how much its members are paying, specifically Turkey’s military incursion in northern Syria. ‘When I look at Turkey, they are now fighting against those who fought with us against #ISIS.'”
Except ISIS was also a NATO creation. Perhaps it’s easiest to conclude that the West is a complete mess and needs to be cleaned from head to toe, but particularly its head as it seems to be infected by a strange wealth consuming parasite of its own creation.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 3 2019 17:36 utc | 7

@ “particularly its head as it seems to be infected by a strange wealth consuming parasite of its own creation.” Nice way to put it.
Ketosis. Which process digesting itself gives off ketones, which stink, and are toxic to the whole still living thing.

Posted by: Walter | Dec 3 2019 17:47 utc | 8

In all fairness, given the din of the crowd, he might have confused ‘Iranian’ with ‘Bolivian’. We in the U.S. need to keep a scorecard because we take different positions based on who we are trying to take out.

Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Dec 3 2019 17:58 utc | 9

Same goes for Hong Kong.

Posted by: Reno Dino | Dec 3 2019 18:02 utc | 10

Nice catch. And fabulous cultural reference, too.

Posted by: Bruce | Dec 3 2019 18:05 utc | 11

Either The Orange One is so addled that contradiction is just part of the days routine or this is simply the escalation of the puppet show that is USAn domestic politics…or can it be both?
I’m seconding post #2 (psychohistorian). All slightly obscured historical evidence points to this kind of thing being part of a ratcheting up or cognitive dissonance to the point of the absurd.
One really amazing achievement has been getting reasonably intelligent people to go along with narratives unquestioningly and all the consent manufacturing that goes with it. Another is the hysterical emotional responses thats get triggered and obscure logic and reason so effectively. As with the material in the article by C. Johnstone: attack the source while failing to provide a reasonable counter explanation for what is being suggested.
Back to the topic at hand, D. Trump is an amazingly effective focal point for these things! Hearing a tender loving lesbian social worker foaming at the mouth and declaring the need for censorship to a fascistic degree was exemplary to say the least.
Imagining for a moment that social engineering is in fact a real phenomenon throughout history, is it not a stroke of genius to dovetail the “2minuteHate” of The Orange One with rabid Russophobia?! The kinder gentler lefties of Unistat (formerly USA) have been taught to hate! It is truly worthy of a hackneyed starwars reference.

Posted by: Chevrus | Dec 3 2019 18:06 utc | 12

Tudeh on the Iranian protests.
https://www.tudehpartyiran.org/en/
Mind you many of its members were assassinated and imprisoned by the mullahs during the 80s, forcing the party to go into exile.

Posted by: ninel | Dec 3 2019 18:07 utc | 13

The downfall of an office.
First came the psychopath who was an accomplice in removing his predecessor from office. Quite bloodily, too.
Then came the crook who had to step down because he himself was tricked. Didn’t help that he went to China first.
He was followed by a dressman who changed his name because it sounded too much like the KKK. He also couldn’t walk and chew gum at the same time. But he had his Rockefeller friend along for the ride until that one fucked himself (to death).
Then came the peanut farmer who developed a strong case of conscience. He wasn’t hired for that.
He was cheated by Bonzo who made deals with the devil until it really was bedtime for him. 3-2-1…
The next one was either the handler or the sidekick of Bonzo. The jury is still out on that. Nobody really liked him, though. Not even his pirate friends.
His successor was very slick – with or without a cigar. He was mediocre at everything except corruption and lying. But he still had his way with women. Especially the young ones.
After that the electronic cheating began and they wanted to jumpstart the system with the worst possible case (candidate). They succeeded.
But the other side adapted and selected a good teleprompter narrator. This peace professional was very good at killing people and declaring global warming and rising sea levels. Now he himself makes a killing and purchases a *beach* mansion.
Now they have the twitter president. Makes sense: Tiny fingers are an advantage. At least sometimes.
Who will come next?

Posted by: Calibrator | Dec 3 2019 18:09 utc | 14

China’s cleaning up HK’s aisle 5:
“The US is expanding its hybrid warfare against China, so Beijing responded by sanctioning the most important groups in the regime-change machine:
-NED
-Human Rights Watch
-Freedom House
-NDI
-IRI
“These are coup-mongering arms of US imperialist soft power.”
Such clean up needs to be done globally. Indeed, what nation needs any sort of Imperial institution on its territory. I’d shut it all down, embassy and consulates, and deport the lot.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 3 2019 18:11 utc | 15

@ Babyl-on | Dec 3 2019 17:34 utc | 6
”The great general who brought victory over the Nazis Eisenhower . . .
Actually, victory over the Nazis was achieved by the Red Army of the USSR, which inflicted 85 percent of all the casualties suffered by the Nazis. A number of really great Russian generals were responsible, with most of the credit usually assigned to Marshall Zukov, although there were others, like General Vatutin (who was killed by Ukrainian Nazis) who deserved a lot of the credit for the Soviet victory over the Wehrmacht.
The Soviet military suffered 10 million dead in the course of that achievement.

Posted by: AntiSpin | Dec 3 2019 18:23 utc | 16

@ AntiSpin in comment #16 who wrote

Actually, victory over the Nazis was achieved by the Red Army of the USSR, which inflicted 85 percent of all the casualties suffered by the Nazis.

When I learned that I started to think that the US nuking of Japan was really meant to get control of the victor narrative for WWII back from Russia…..again, follow the money game
What aisle is that on?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 3 2019 18:33 utc | 17

karlof @15
thanks for that catch by Ben Norton at the grayzone – the coup-mongering crowd should be sanctioned by all The South/third world developing nations, and pronto.
Human rights watch has become a joke, they’ve thrown away any authority built up over many years, and their remarks recently about Bolivia in particular have infuriated me.
from the head of HRW nov 16 2019
https://twitter.com/kenroth/status/1195865679737556993
Kenneth Roth

Important that Bolivia’s change of government not become an excuse for violence, discrimination and neglect toward its indigenous communities.
“change of government” – disgusting! instead of outright condemning the coup in the name of humanity and the people of Bolivia. The HRW are regime changer slugs

Posted by: michaelj72 | Dec 3 2019 18:34 utc | 18

The mess known as Kamala Harris has been cleaned out of the D-Party line up:
“NEWS – Kamala Harris is dropping out of the presidential election today, I’m told reliably. She’s informing staff now….
“Between Harris and O’Rourke, the candidates who entered with the most fanfare around them, in the end became two of the earliest to quit.”
Guess we can thank Gabbard for taking out the Harris trash.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 3 2019 18:35 utc | 19

BoJo may find himself cleaned out of #10 for turning NHS into a US-style kill the poor program:
“‘The problem is American conservatives can’t be shamed,’ said Green. ‘They think it’s great that healthcare costs a fortune and poor people die.'”
Joe Politics video at link:
“‘So if you’re poor, you’re dead,’ one young woman tells the interviewer from Joe Politics after hearing an asthma inhaler in the for-profit U.S. system costs between $250 and $300.
“Two different men appear shocked when told Americans can be charged $2,500 for an ambulance ride.
“‘For real?’ one asks. ‘Why?’ asks another.”
Seems a no-brainer for me. The Tories need to be swept out of office and into the North Sea without rafts or flotation devices, with Blair in the lead.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 3 2019 19:12 utc | 20

Donald Trump is the sound of one hand clapping.
He is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.
If a tree falls in the forest, and Donald was not around to tweet about it, does it make a sound?
Deep Thoughts … from the Deep State.

Posted by: ak74 | Dec 3 2019 19:16 utc | 21

On the subject of brain dead:
Succinct, frank and worrying assessment:
https://southfront.org/philip-m-giraldi-the-international-zionist-conspiracy/

Posted by: jared | Dec 3 2019 19:26 utc | 22

>The Soviet military suffered 10 million dead in the course of that achievement.
>Posted by: AntiSpin | Dec 3 2019 18:23 utc | 16
The Soviet grunts on the ground and in the air get the credit in my book. US peons don’t understand that the Russian people know war in a way that US peons can barely imagine. Russians certainly don’t want a repeat. Too many US residents are all too willing to send other people’s kids off to kill and die, as long as its for the glory of the empire, or oil, or something.
One might think that the industrial scale carnage of the War Between the States would’ve been enough to cure the itch for war, but unfortunately not.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Dec 3 2019 19:41 utc | 23

@ Posted by: jared | Dec 3 2019 19:26 utc | 22 who provided a link about jewish over representation in world governance.
I keep banging the drum of global private finance that could or not be behind the jewish situation. When I read stuff like your link I shake my head and wonder if humanity will ever be able to focus on the private/public finance core to the social contract….sigh
And then I remember that China is forcing that very issue and Trump is having a cow over it and it makes me smile

Posted by: psychohistorian | Dec 3 2019 19:49 utc | 24

@ psychohistorian | Dec 3 2019 18:33 utc | 17 (purpose of n bombs)
Aperovitz tells us that Groves said in March of ’44 that the bomb was for Russia. He and one of the boffins were at dinner up on the mesa when that discussion took place.
And, well, like Dresden, they were showing USSR what they could do. As if that was not enough, they did “Crossroads” to show everybody again.
Jimmy Barnes was deep in the intrigue, he says.

Posted by: Walter | Dec 3 2019 20:06 utc | 25

the world and american people must be getting tired of these messages – CLEANUP ON AISLE 5! – or whatever… this is one of the things i do love about trump.. some type of gong show follows him wherever he goes!

Posted by: james | Dec 3 2019 20:14 utc | 26

@14 calibrator.. that was funny! …and pretty accurate too..
@15 karlof1.. i quoted something very similar from a cbc article yesterday on the open thread (i think).. maybe ben norton reads moa, but it is also publicly available for anyone..

Posted by: james | Dec 3 2019 20:25 utc | 27

@ “particularly its head as it seems to be infected by a strange wealth consuming parasite of its own creation.” Nice way to put it.
Ketosis. Which process digesting itself gives off ketones, which stink, and are toxic to the whole still living thing.
Posted by: Walter | Dec 3 2019 17:47 utc | 8 Text

Walter, you are either an ignoramous or and/or a shill. You understand zip re ketosis. Spare us the BS.

Posted by: avid lurker | Dec 3 2019 20:36 utc | 28

@ AntiSpin #16
I was just being facetious about Eisenhower he was a dish rag that the Dulles brothers could squeeze any time they wanted. And they are the ones who held the levers of power not Eisenhower or any president sense him.
You are correct that the USSR was mostly the army which overcame the Nazis. Hitler had 20 divisions on the Eastern front and only 5 on the Western front which was not opened Stalin was begging the West to open another front but the US just waited until as much damage to Germany and the USSR was done before entering the war.
The D day invasion was almost entirely French and UK ships and planes and solders. US personal were barely involved and the orders were not given by Eisenhower but by the French and English officers.
It is not the government which holds the specter of nuclear annihilation over our heads it is the oligarchy.

Posted by: Babyl-on | Dec 3 2019 20:53 utc | 29

The flip-flop is probably due to confusion over the word ‘support’. When asked by a nasty newsie whether USA “supports Iranian protesters” Trump probably heard, “Are you financing them and using CIA tricks to subvert Iran?”, and fudged out. Later, becalmed by his handlers, he used ‘support’ in its “I approve of the protests in the name of freedom” sense, so all is well and it’s time for a Big Mac.

Posted by: piggly | Dec 3 2019 20:53 utc | 30

Asked if the U.S. supports Iranian protesters, Pres. Trump says, “I don’t want to comment on that, but the answer’s no. But I don’t want to comment on that.”
My reading is that the Donald was quite logically assuming that “support” meant the provision of mercenary provocateurs; and that he was required to say “no” lest he anger his adversaries/handlers in the permanent state.

Posted by: NOBTS | Dec 3 2019 21:04 utc | 31

@psychohistorian banging my eardrums about GPF. I am marching in tune with your beat, but what’s behind GPF? I feel the rabbit hole is deeper than that. We get to the realm of psychology. What makes people believe that self enrichment over the dead corpses of others is a virtue? What makes people think that their deity is the one and only, that they are ‘the chosen ones’, that others are deplorables/gojim/untermench/whatever?
It is something that lurks in all of us that created GPF. Whether it is Santa, the Tooth Fairy or any alternate reality make-believe, we can distort and twist anything if and whenever it suits us. When guilt or cognitive dissonance bothers us we re-calibrate our moral compass, change our perception. This makes us feel better but do worse. People being human created this mess and when GPF dies, some other evil spawns.
I like this blog because b and you barflies are realists digging for truth, not peddling some alternate reality. The world needs more of you.

Posted by: Joost | Dec 3 2019 21:05 utc | 32

piggly @30–
On Trump and “support,” I sometimes wonder if he knows the difference between a bra and jock strap. And since it’s that time of year again, I’m sure Trump isn’t alone in wondering what the reference to Parson Brown means in that, now controversial, Noel tune, Winter Wonderland.

Posted by: karlof1 | Dec 3 2019 21:08 utc | 33

Hi Piggly, Telepathy?

Posted by: NOBTS | Dec 3 2019 21:12 utc | 34

‘the Russian people know war in a way that US peons can barely imagine’ @23
the Chinese too (tho more wrt losses than victories)
if anyone ever starts anything on US soil it will be like taking candy from a baby, and the US will also find it has zero friends left

Posted by: PeterP | Dec 3 2019 21:17 utc | 35