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November 24, 2019

The Moon of Alabama Week In Review - OT 2019-69

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

Related:
As predicted in the piece above the riots are over and internet access has for most parts been restored. Another 'regime change' attempt has been defeated.
Iran’s Security Counter Attack to A Three Year Plan! / Behind the Iran’s Recent Riots, Part 1 - ISW News

Related:
RAY McGOVERN: The Pitfalls of a Pit Bull Russophobe - Consortium News
Two month ago we assessed that the Democrats' impeachment attempt is a huge mistake as it would help Trump to win the next election. Now evidence trickles in:
Trump approval ticks up amid impeachment battle: Gallup - The Hill
New Polling Suggests Democrats’ Impeachment Push Could Alienate Key Voters - Vanity Fair

Related:
The elections today went without a hitch and had a record turnout of 71% of all eligible voters.
Polls close in Hong Kong after record number of voters at district council elections - SCMP
Beyond parody:
Hong Kong university siege: two men trapped on campus for more than a week slam police for ‘depriving them of right to vote’ - SCMP
Will the pan-dems claim voting fraud if they do not get a majority?

Related:
Ukraine and Meddling in 2016 - Yes, it happened. - Yasha Levine

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Other issues:

OPCW / Douma:

A third leak from the OPCW in form of an internal email is additional evidence that the OPCW report on the Douma incident was massively manipulated.
OPCW Douma Docs - Wikileak
"The author of the e-mail was a member of that team and claims the redacted preliminary version of the report, misrepresents the facts he and his colleagues discovered on the ground."
OPCW management accused of doctoring Syrian chemical weapons report - Stundin
New sexed-up dossier furore: Explosive leaked email claims that UN watchdog's report into alleged poison gas attack by Assad was doctored - so was it to justify British and American missile strikes on Syria?- Peter Hitchens, Daily Mail

737 MAX:

The Long-Forgotten Flight That Sent Boeing Off Course - Atlantic
Canadian air safety official urges removal of key software from Boeing 737 MAX - Seattle Times
Aerospace suppliers prepare for prolonged grounding of 737 MAX - Reuter

The most ridiculous 'liberal' headline ever:


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Well-meaning sanctions?

Left I on the News points out that the State Department at times spelled out what sanctions are really supposed to do.

499. Memorandum From the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs (Mallory) to the Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs (Rubottom)

Washington, April 6, 1960.
SUBJECT - The Decline and Fall of Castro
Salient considerations respecting the life of the present Government of Cuba are:
1. The majority of Cubans support Castro (the lowest estimate I have seen is 50 percent).
...
6. The only foreseeable means of alienating internal support is through disenchantment and disaffection based on economic dissatisfaction and hardship.

If the above are accepted or cannot be successfully countered, it follows that every possible means should be undertaken promptly to weaken the economic life of Cuba. If such a policy is adopted, it should be the result of a positive decision which would call forth a line of action which, while as adroit and inconspicuous as possible, makes the greatest inroads in denying money and supplies to Cuba, to decrease monetary and real wages, to bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government.
...
Would you wish to have such a proposal prepared for the Secretary?

(Rubottom initialed the “yes” space provided on the source text.)

Some seventy years later its is evident that sanctions are a blunt tool that only harms the people, not their governments.

Use as open thread ...

Posted by b on November 24, 2019 at 17:06 UTC | Permalink

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Trumptards: Trump fighting the Deep State!

Dembots, TDS, antifa: Impeach unethical Trump for abuse of power!

OPCW manipulation? Silence from both sides.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 24 2019 17:22 utc | 1

thanks for all the insights and info b...

when madeline albright was asked about all the dead iraqi children, thanks the usa sanctions, she said it was worth it.. that to me summarizes the sick outlook the american political class continue to cultivate..

Posted by: james | Nov 24 2019 17:29 utc | 2

from the ray mcgovern article -
"“According to several current and former intelligence officers who must remain anonymous because of the sensitivity of the issue,” as the Times says when it prints made-up stuff, there were only two “handpicked analysts.” Clapper picked Brennan; and Brennan picked Clapper. That would help explain the grossly subpar quality of the ICA.

If U.S. Attorney John Durham is allowed to do his job probing the origins of Russiagate, and succeeds in getting access to the “handpicked analysts” — whether there were just two, or more — Hill’s faith in “our intelligence agencies,” may well be dented if not altogether shattered."

it goes with larry johnsons articles on this topic and where it might head in the next 2 months..

Posted by: james | Nov 24 2019 17:38 utc | 3

Thanks b. Your Herculean efforts just amazing.


Oh my! Dems should know the old adage..when you dig a hole for your enemies...Dig two.

State Department Releases Detailed Accounts Of Biden-Ukraine Corruption

Extract:
"According to Mr. Lutsenko the $900,000 invoice was for services rendered for lobbying by Joe Biden."


A liberal watchdog group's attempt to nail Rudy Giuliani has backfired in spectacular fashion after their FOIA request resulted in the US State Department releasing detailed accusations of corruption against the Bidens - based on interviews with former Ukrainian officials who were in charge of the investigations.[.]

While American Oversight's 'gotcha' is that Giuliani had "multiple contacts" with Mike Pompeo and others while investigating Ukraine corruption, they completely ignore interview notes containing detailed allegations by former Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin - who Joe Biden had fired, as well as his successor, prosecutor general Yuriy Lutsenko - who "believes Mr. Viktor Shokin the former Prosecutor General is honest."

Viktor Shokin:

On a January 23, 2019 phone call between Shokin and Giuliani, Igor Fruman, Lev Parnas and George Boyle, Shokin said:

"He was appointed to the position of General Prosecutor of Ukraine from 2015 until April of 2016, when he was removed at the request of Mr. Joseph Biden the Vice President of the United States."

"He [Shokin] became involved in a case against Mr. Mykola Zlochevsky the former Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine. The case was opened as a result of Mr. Zlochevsky giving himself/company permits to drill for gas and oil in Ukraine. Mr. Zlochevsky is also the owner of Burisma Holdings."

[.]"President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko [who Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in US loan guarantees] told Mr. Shokin not to investigate Burisma as it was not in the interest of Joe and/or Hunter Biden. Mr. Shokin was called into Mr. Poroshenko's office and told that the investigation into Burisma and the Managing Director where Hunter Biden is on the board, has caused Joe Biden to hold up one billion dollars in US aid to Ukraine.[.]

"On a different point Mr. Shokin believes the current Ambassador Marie L. Yovanovitch denied his visa to travel to the US. Mr. Shokin stated that she is close to Mr. Biden. Mr. Shokin also stated that there were leaks by a person named Reshenko of the Ukrainian State Secret Service about the Manafort Black Book. Mr. Shokin stated that there is possible deceit in the Manafort Black Book."[.]

Read on

Posted by: Likklemore | Nov 24 2019 17:54 utc | 4

Fiona Hill, the subject of the sort of hagiography at wikipedia that used to be reserved for the Lives of the Saints, is an expert russophobe, and far from being an expert on Russia. The product of the Pipes/Harvard school of anticommunism so deep that it includes Russian capitalists and everyone else as well.
What is interesting about her position is that it is an indication of the increasingly demented nature of the US government. Just as US Middle East policy is dominated by people whose primary qualification is allegiance to zionism, so policy towards Russia is dominated by Ukraine oriented fascist sympathisers who hold views on Russia that are, frankly racist.
The same thing happened in the late 1940s when everyone in the State Department who knew anything about China was kicked out and kept away from any position of influence on the grounds that they were too sympathetic towards (in other words tried to understand what lay behind) Communism.
That resulted in decades of US stupidity in South East Asia where anti-communist zealots saw Chinese influence and ambition behind everything that happened. It might have been funny had it not led to such tragedies as those in Indo-China and (Obama's school of life) Indonesia.
Similarly the employment of monomaniacs like Fiona Hill on the 'Russian file' is pretty well guaranteed to lead, in the short run, to imperial defeats.
So, here's too Fiona: Cheers!

Posted by: bevin | Nov 24 2019 17:58 utc | 5

Another great week of postings and commentary at MoA...thanks b

Towards the end of the last posting comments (News?....) AK74 wrote the following
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There should be a Cordon Sanitaire placed around the United States (and its crime partners/allies) to prevent this American plague from infecting the rest of the world.
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Those "crime partners/allies" include the UK with Johnson , France with Marcon trying to privatise the social safety net, Saudi Arabia that is about to take over running the G20 for a year, and Occupied Palestine that continues to cry victimization behind its genocidal aggression.

I will write again that humanity is in a civilization war about whether the lifeblood of our economic intercourse is a public utility managed for all or a private cult benefitting only a few at the top and forcing the rest to live or die based on their fealty to the God of Mammon religion

I also want to again compliment fellow barflies for the level of commentary provided here from which I continue to learn a lot and am challenged to think by all of it.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 24 2019 18:01 utc | 6

"Will the pan-dems claim voting fraud if they do not get a majority?"

Of course. That's in the playbook. The pan-dems will moan... more pan-dem-monium from the spoiled brats and useful idiots. Unlike Bolivia, though, they do not have the military on their side.

Posted by: William Gruff | Nov 24 2019 18:20 utc | 7

#6 'I will write again that humanity is in a civilization war about whether the lifeblood of our economic intercourse is a public utility managed for all or a private cult benefitting only a few at the top and forcing the rest to live or die based on their fealty to the God of Mammon religion.'

Unfortunately the Democratic Party, which was once the party of the working man, and might have cared about this, now spends all energy time pandering to minorities, transexuals, and anyone else who can identify themselves as anything other than a white heterosexual male. This may be very divisive and contrary to the goals you seem to espouse, but they have managed to succeed in getting Coca-Cola to run an advertisement promoting the transgender 'lifestyle'.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/11/24/coca-cola-transgender-ad-proves-there-is-a-war-on-for-childrens-hearts-minds-and-bodies/

Posted by: SteveK9 | Nov 24 2019 18:21 utc | 8

@ psychohistorian | Nov 24 2019 18:01 utc | 6

the lifeblood of our economic intercourse is a public utility managed for all or a private cult benefitting only a few at the top and forcing the rest to live or die based on their fealty to the God of Mammon religion

wrap your head around this interview with Dr. Mark Skidmore on the missing $21 trillion which MSM waves away as a conspiracy theory not worth discussing.

Posted by: Likklemore | Nov 24 2019 18:33 utc | 9

Does Fiona appear a bit MI-6ish? The whole gaggle of Kiev station witnesses resemble the colonial administration of New Ukraine installed by Obama/Clinton. And they resent having to defer to Kolomoisky?

Posted by: NOBTS | Nov 24 2019 19:09 utc | 10

@ Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 24 2019 17:22 utc | 1

With the way information is controlled and channeled, almost none of them have probably even heard that anything is amiss with the OPCW.

Posted by: AshenLight | Nov 24 2019 19:19 utc | 11

Thanks so much b for the lovely Nov 23 analysis - I'd been chuckling this morning about an image of Granddaddy Bush parachuting - well, you have to go to antiwar.com and read a piece by David Stockman that is an insightful 'where we have been and what are the real issues in Ukraine' to find that nugget - I promise it is worth it!

Laughter and those who laugh or don't is a great way to see who really dedicates themselves to our serious day to day grappling with reality -- or not. We discover, do we not, that we really CAN laugh both at what is happening and at ourselves while still being so enmeshed in the pain of it all.

Which is something that can't be faked. Thank you again. We needed that.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 24 2019 19:20 utc | 12

Sorry, I meant to give a hat tip to wendy davis @ cafe-babylon.net for linking to the Stockman article in recent comments. Very good piece from an old Reagan appointee - and that's heartening, isn't it? We oldies do improve with age, some of us ;)

Posted by: juliania | Nov 24 2019 19:25 utc | 13

Oh dear - that's:

original.antiwar.com

for the Stockman article.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 24 2019 19:29 utc | 14

From Michael Roberts' Blog's Facebook page:

Europe's PMIs for November show that Eurozone economic activity is teetering close to recession, while UK is in a recession.

The Purchasing Managers Index (PMI) is a survey of company management on the how they see the state of production, employment and sales. PMIs are the most reliable and up to date indicators of the health of a country's business sector. The PMI indicator level of growth is 50. Anything above means growth and the higher the level, the faster the expansion. Anything below 50 means recession and the lower the level, the bigger the contraction.

While in Q3 2019 Germany narrowly avoided an 'official recession' (ie two consecutive quarters of GDP contraction), Germany's composite PMI (a combination of manufacturing and service sectors) for November was in recession territory at 49.2 (slightly up from October).

The overall Eurozone PMI was 50.3, just above stagnation and down from October. The UK composite PMI fell to 48.5 in November, the lowest level since the mini-recession of 2016 and indicating a slump.

Japan's composite PMI was also in negative territory for the second consecutive month at 49.9.

And of course, most countries' manufacturing sectors have been contracting for some time.

Long story short: it's not that the European is already dead. No, not only it has been long dead, its corpse is already at an advanced stage of decay.

There are a lot of vultures on the European corpse -- but this is not the refounding of Rome.

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At the end of the world, in the British isles, the situation is no better:

Labour’s economic policy: the challenge ahead

Whatever government is formed in the UK after the 12 December election, it faces an immense challenge. The British economy is in a mess and its society is riven with division.

After ten years of austerity measures under Conservative/Liberal Democrat governments, public services and welfare benefits have been cut to the bone and beneath. The British state pension is the lowest in Europe! The NHS, after being hollowed out by outsourcing and internal privatisation and then starved of funds, is on its knees. Social care for the old and infirm has been decimated and/or hideously expensive. School classroom sizes are higher than ever, higher education colleges are going bust and students are racking up huge debts. The housing shortage is so bad that young people are forced to live at home with parents or in crowded, unfit private rental accommodation. Transport is an expensive nightmare: rail, energy and fuel prices are the among the highest in Europe.

Inequality of wealth and incomes are as high as in the 1930s. While Britain boasts of 135 billionaires, 14 million are officially classed as poor and 4 million children are living in poverty. Regional disparities in living standards between London and the south east and the rest of the UK are the widest in northern Europe. Millions work in the poorly paid self-employed ‘gig’ economy, and one million people work on zero-hours contracts often for wages below the official minimum wage; while the disabled and ill are forced back into low wage work through the removal of benefits.

[...]

Most important, on the economic front, Britain’s growth of national output is slowing as the population expands, making it increasingly difficult to provide the resources to meet these challenges. Britain’s economic growth is disappearing fast. The capitalist sector of the British economy has failed to deliver for the needs of people, although it has delivered higher profits and house prices and a booming stock market for the rich. Real disposable income per head has more or less stagnated since the end of the Great Recession, the longest period in 167 years!

Posted by: vk | Nov 24 2019 19:45 utc | 15

Colombia Reports: Fed up with violent repression, peaceful anti-government protesters massively took to the streets in Bogota on Saturday, occupied the capital’s central square and kept President Ivan Duque awake all night. The nightly protests seemed the death blow to Duque’s three-day attempt to violently repress the protests and ignore the people’s demands.

BBC: Voters in Uruguay have gone to the polls to elect a new president, after no candidate secured enough votes to win outright in the first round.

Posted by: Maracatu | Nov 24 2019 19:50 utc | 16

This news is a good oportunity to debate another aspect of the American 2020 presidential election:

'I'm Running to Defeat Donald Trump': Michael Bloomberg Officially Enters 2020 Presidential Race

Rumor say the bigwigs in Wall Street have already accepted the fact that another big recession will come -- probably in 2020.

Micheal Bloomberg is a big billionare, whose USD 21 billion estimated fortune makes Donald Trump (estimated fortune: USD 3 billion) look like a street beggar. He's also from New York City, having being mayor of it.

As everybody here knows, you can't be mayor, senator or governor in NY without the direct blessing of Wall Street. As a billionaire and ex-NY politician, Bloomberg is certainly receiving real time updates on the situation of Wall Street.

He probably was forced by Wall Street to enter the Democratic presidental race.

This is because, if this big recession comes in 2020 (or even sometime until 2022), Wall Street will need a legitimated POTUS to bail them out. Remember: the 2008 crisis broke out in September, when George W. Bush was still president. His Congress wasn't able to pass the bail out, amid mass protests in NY and DC. He was already a very demoralised POTUS, after the defeats of Iraq and Afghanistan. This crisis of legitimation left Wall Street in a four-month limbo -- a limbo which almost collapsed the USA.

The crisis was only solved because Obama won the election. In January, the first thing he pushed through Congress was the bail out bill. Some months later, the largest bail out in History was passed, a total USD 1.1 trillion rescue package (not counting the QE operations, which had already begun under Bush). If any other candidate not called Obama had won that election, there was a real possibility the bail out would not pass with such ease. It took the first black, liberal to the bones, "yes we can", president in the History of the USA to save Wall Street and crush the revolt ("Occupy Wall Street") without creating a domino effect on the rest of the American territory.

My hypothesis is Michael Bloomberg is, in the mind of Wall Street, this new POTUS cloaked with that aura of popular legitimacy Obama had in 2009.

After the bail out, Obama lost both of his majorities in the regional elections of 2010. He then became a de facto figurative emperor (the "lame duck", the American Romulus Augustulus). Didn't need to be any more than that: he had already served his purpose in the two years he was effectivelly a president.

Posted by: vk | Nov 24 2019 20:06 utc | 17

the US troop surge in Syria continues. In addition to the ~1,000 soldiers with ifvs/mbts being sent to three new bases in DeZ (teeth for economic warfare), 500 soldiers are being sent to a new base near Qamishli.

Earlier this week two waves of Israeli airstrikes hit 20 SAA targets around Damascus, including the international airport, 4th division ammo depot, and national defense building. Over $1billion USD in SAA equipment was destroyed. Israeli leadership claims these strikes were in response to "Iranian" missiles fired at the Golan Heights, and they "expect more attacks" to which "we(IAF) will respond". This was a ff similar to the Saudi Aramco incident - where us missiles were fired to stage a provocation.

SAA is taking heavy losses in Kobane, and is bogged down vs tfsa on the NEW Syrian-Turkish border in the northeast.

the Syrian pound [SYP] is in freefall at the moment.

"isis" cells are active in east Homs

For some good news it seems the long awaited next limited South Idlib/West Aleppo operation may have begun today. Also Russian supply ships are traveling to Tartous.

Was deep state artistic-genius potus signing off on new white helmet contracts covered here?

Posted by: jana | Nov 24 2019 20:12 utc | 18

AshenLight @11:

... almost none of them have probably even heard that anything is amiss with the OPCW.

Well, the point I made addresses this by pointing to how the most partisan and most politically aware people on each side have failed to attempt to use the OPCW revelations to their advantage.

The implication of this dog(s) that didn't bark goes beyond media control (which is already well known), to political control.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 24 2019 20:13 utc | 19

Can someone post an up to date and informed summary of the situation in Yemen please?
It's all gone very quiet and I'm not finding much online.
Yemen remains a major crisis point that could yet involve nieghbouring countries, Israel, Iran and the west in all out war.
I would appreciate the considered opinion of anyone here following the situation closely.
Thanks in advance

Posted by: David Goodrich | Nov 24 2019 20:52 utc | 20

@ Likklemore #9 with the $21 trillion dollar link...thanks

I remember reading a bit about that in 2107 but the purposeful pace of the propaganda machine and obfuscation events ripped it from my consciousness as I am sure it did to others that might have seen it go by. I agree with the author, Dr. Mark Skidmore that a world-wide crash is our best hope for getting a grip on the insanity that has become commonplace in our world.

Unfortunately or fortunately as part of that crash, it will be outside interests like China/Russia et al that force the change/reevaluation in the West to occur.....lots of weeping and gnashing of teeth....and we hope not nukes....

It is the responsibility of those of us in the West to stand up, when that process unfolds, and overcome what remains of the system of propaganda that fuels the brainwashing of the masses. I have 5 more books about public banking headed my way and hope to share my learnings and work with other like minded folk as best as I can.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 24 2019 21:04 utc | 21

This night in Potosí, Bolivia...

https://twitter.com/pvillegas_tlSUR/status/1195522519136124931

The responsible must be called out and ashamed if possible in public space and then punished...if the International Organizations and Community, who should do it, neglect theri duty, the people will do...

Social and political organizations prevent the entry of @ Almagro_OEA2015 to a Private University in Asunción #Paraguay #GolpeEnBolivia #MasacreEnBolivia

https://twitter.com/OsvaldoteleSUR/status/1196913885007224833

Posted by: Sasha | Nov 24 2019 21:22 utc | 22

Pat Lang writes again about the President's Constitutional right to manage foreign affairs: Punch foresaw The Borg.

Note: pl apparently changed the title from "The Trump Impeachment Hearing Whistle-blower Blew Up a non-Story Mulshine(ht)"

Pat, and other Trump apologists that have jumped on the same bandwagon, LIE BY OMISSION when they fail to mention that imperialists have created the 'Imperial Presidency' which has upset the checks and balances that the Founders put into place to protect against just such a power grab.

Among other things, the 'Imperial President' has circumvented Congress's "power of the purse" by funding covert action/war via extraneous activities and secret agreements with other states (especially Gulf States like Saudi Arabia) that constitute unratified treaties.

The US President DOES have the power to manage foreign affairs but that power is not, should not, and never was intended to be, absolute and unchecked.

Impeachment is not the only measure available to Congress. If they were serious, they would make the emergence of an 'Imperial President' to the Supreme Court. But the Empire is a bi-partisan project so don't hold your breath.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 24 2019 21:33 utc | 23

@Posted by: Sasha | Nov 24 2019 21:22 utc | 22

Well, it seems that it was not this night in Potosí, but some nights ago...Sorry, forgot to check the date...

Posted by: Sasha | Nov 24 2019 21:38 utc | 24

Cynthia Chung invaded my brain and wrote the short essay that's been on the tip of my tongue for some months now, "On Churchill's 'Sinews of Peace'". Within its body is linked two extremely important items, the first being Elliott Roosevelt's book about his father Franklin As He Saw It (available limited preview at link), and the second being an excerpt from that book of paramount importance.

The more well known name of Churchill's "Sinews of Peace" speech is "The Iron Curtain Speech" given at Fulton, Missouri on 5 March 1946, not quite 11 months after FDR's passing. Here is the opening appetizer from that speech Chung bases the rest of her essay upon:

"This threatening message was not only meant for the Soviets, but was also directed to the Americans and in between the lines Churchill stated 'Things are going to be very different from now on. Your dead president cannot protect you any longer.' Some may be surprised to hear such an aside comment, more likened to the outer ruminations of Shakespeare’s Iago." [My Emphasis]

Things did immediately become different. I consistently point out that the Evil Outlaw US Empire immediately began violating the UN Charter and thus its own Constitution and Law of the Land upon its coming into force; however, what I've neglected to point out until now is that the UK also began violating it just as immediately as did France, although neither has anything similar to the US Constitution's Supremacy Clause that might be used to curb illegal behavior. I often point to historical What Ifs? as in this case regarding the coup made against Henry Wallace, FDR, and the wholesale overturning of the reasons given for waging the war and winning the peace. Ms. Chung does an excellent job of highlighting what those were, how they were smashed, and why. I really can't stress the great importance of her essay enough; its educational importance is second to none! Read it, save it, make sure its read by your entire family, take it to your kid's teachers, share it with everyone you know and those you don't. The only people I can conceive of who wouldn't want to know its contents are racists/imperialists--dare I say fascists--like Churchill. Three generations of people were subjected to a geopolitical power play that never should have occurred--the deaths, destruction, and wasted opportunities likely total in the Quadrillions of Dollars. I must admit some admiration for Chung's an optimist as she clearly shows in her conclusion; my adding it here in no way diminishes her essay's power and importance:

"The intended policies by Franklin D. Roosevelt for the post war world are still waiting to be implemented today.

"So what can we the people do about this? We can wake up to the fact that this has occurred and recognise that the mainstream presentation of world dichotomy today is just continuing this sickly narrative. That Russia and China are not some monstrous race and that we should weigh what is currently being offered as an olive branch with great and serious reflection. That is namely the Eurasian Economic Union and the New Silk Road which also applies immensely to the US.

"Let us not continue to remain shackled in despair and inaction but rather realise that there is a great opportunity still for the Century of the Common Man."

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 24 2019 21:41 utc | 25

Hong Kong local Election Voting

    5:37AM
    21 wins, 156 losses so far for DAB
    As of 5.30am, the city’s largest pro-Beijing party, the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong, has won 21 seats while 156 of its candidates have been defeated.

    On the other side of the political divide, the Democratic Party has secured 54 seats with only two candidates confirmed to have lost their bids

Posted by: Realist | Nov 24 2019 22:00 utc | 26

I've lurked here for a while; but this is my first lengthy comment at MoA. It's an analogy. Of course, no analogy maps perfectly, so I'm sure there will be objections. Also, please let me know if this material is appropriate for an open thread. Thanks.

Trump is to America what ISIS was to Syria - Orange ISIS

Trump, like ISIS, is a cover story used by the CIA to demolish an existing government (i.e., what little is left of the U.S. Constitution) under the excuse of stopping "evil".

Just as ISIS was put in play after the Syrian people began to rebel against Assad, in order to hijack legitimate resistance by the classic hybrid war playbook, Trump was put in play to make sure that Americans did not get genuine change (i.e., the 2016 version of Bernie Sanders) at a time when people were fed up with the status quo, exemplified by Hillary and Jeb Bush.

The truly evil deeds done by ISIS were an undeniable talking point for its elimination. As one would expect from the Mighty Wurlitzer, the ISIS narrative never mentioned the fact that the Saudis funded, the CIA armed and coordinated, and the Israelis supported ISIS from day one. But at least the ISIS theatre had the fig leaf that it was "foreign policy", the purview of the CIA.

The truly evil deeds done by Trump also make it easy to write a regime change narrative. The problem is that the completely unconstitutional, CIA-led impeachment effort is in plain sight. (As "plain" as possible when the original hearings leading to the impeachment resolution were secret, the witnesses anonymous, and the testimony hearsay.) The corporate media is working overtime to deny that this is a CIA-led, oligarch funded coup; but the star witness was supposed to be Ciaramella, a CIA officer at the White House. Anyone with an ounce of awareness recognizes the heavy involvement of the Ukrainian wing of the CIA (e.g. Vindman) - the same folks behind Russiagate - who were rewarded at the beginning of the public hearings with declarations that the Ukraine was our "strategic ally". The Ukrainian wing itself is a Banderite protege of the CIA's ex-Nazi protege, Reinhard Gehlen. They've been, literally, "our Nazis" since the early 1950s, anchoring the Russophobic stance of the US MIC and facilitating the neo-Nazi Maidan coup.

But that's the beauty of the ISIS-style regime change operation: long-running false flags confuse politically unsophisticated folks. Just as Syrian Kurds became enthusiastic proxies of the US and Israel, and fought ISIS (only to be screwed in the end), idiot Democrats and identity politics charlatans have become cheerleaders for the continuous hybrid war on Trump's legitimacy, backing every ludicrous propaganda trope from the Steele document to Russiagate, to Ukrainegate. If the CIA puts Mike Pence in office, and he starts WW3, those clueless Dems find themselves to be the new Kurds. That's why, despite all the words about impeachment, you never ever hear about Pence. Don't want to start a stampede in the veal pen.

Just as in Syria, the "evil" to be eliminated in America, Trump, has been funded by the US/Israeli Deep State. Trump isn't Russia's puppet, he's Sheldon Adelson's and MbS's puppet. Trump has delivered huge budgets for the US MIC. He has delivered politically for Israel and KSA: recognized Jerusalem as the capitol, recognized the theft of the Golan Heights (and now the settlements), ignored settler massacres and Palestinian massacres, ignored the Kashoggi butchery. Hence, the corporate media gives us the same kind of schizophrenic "pretending to attack a person who is, in reality, helping us" narrative that played out in Syria. Trump is evil, unless he is launching cruise missies at Syria, threatening Iran, sanctioning Russia, selling weapons to KSA, tearing up precedents about Israeli occupations, or stationing US troops in Israel. Then he is a good guy.

Trump, like ISIS, has been put in place to paralyze and then destroy the existing government and replace it by a CIA-run puppet show. In our case that would be the completely corrupted corpse of the Democratic Party, with the ghoul, Joe Biden, currently tapped to be the figurehead comprador, despite publicly admitting doing what Trump is being impeached for. (Although, it looks like relief pitcher, Mike Bloomberg, is being called in from the bullpen.)

A legitimate and popular government - something along the lines of saving what's left of the New Deal and social programs - is "off the table" in duopoly America, just as supporting the legitimate government of Assad, instead of the Kurds, was in Syria. Bernie Sanders gets the same blackout and vilification treatment as Assad did.

Just as America has done the heavy lifting of the Yinon Plan for Israel, now Trump will fulfill the Deep State plan for the U.S. That is to create civil war conditions to balkanize the U.S. so that the global oligarchs can dominate post-collapse America. Hence the constant attempts to set groups violently against each other: Identity Politics divisiveness from the Dems, White Supremacy and anti-immigrant agitation from Trump, constant massacres with assault weapons by people with dodgy ties to US intelligence, constant police murders. The right has a whole spectrum of fake leftists from Antifa to Mayor Pete to despise, while the left has Trump and the deplorables. We also have the completely manufactured Boomer vs Millennial narrative, and the Coastal vs Flyover states animosity. Its a perfect hybrid war, with legitimate democracy caught between two Deep State jaws.

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I do not see any miracles on the horizon. The DNC will continue to run its war of attrition on the socialist-lite Sanderites and AOC followers. New candidates (Patrick, Corporate Party-identity politics; Bloomberg, CP-Oligarch) will keep emerging to be touted by the corporate media, while Sanders gets zero coverage and Elizabeth Warren tries to steal his clothes. Trump will not be convicted in the Senate unless the Deep State has calculated that they must have WW3 right away (e.g., because their position, across the politico-economic board, is about to completely implode). If they need WW3, the delusional fundamentalist whackjob Pence will give them that. Otherwise, impeachment will fail; the corporatist Dem candidate will be defeated; and Trump will get four more years to start a civil war.

I don't see any Russian air force coming to bomb our Orange ISIS. There isn't anyone on the planet who wants to rescue America from itself. We've spent 75 years running our neo-colonialist rackets all over the planet: South American compadors, African dictators, Middle Eastern Sunni kings and generals, East Asian militarists, Russian oligarchs. We've murdered tens of millions of non-white people, stolen their resources, crippled their economies, and turned them into debt slaves. For the last thirty years we've been cannibaliizing our own middle class. Why would anyone lift a finger to help us? Instead, they're doing the smart thing - getting out of the US financial network, stepping back, and watching us crash. The distance between reality and our financial markets is already unfathomable, and the solution is not to print more money. "Not QE4" is going to end up like 1929. But that's probably what the international Deep State wants.

In closing, it seems that Syria has a better prognosis for the future than the US does. They beat back their CIA coup attempt. They are politically united. Their economy is not a Wall St. casino. They are supported by the Russians. Their president is not a narcisistic idiot.

Posted by: john brewster | Nov 24 2019 22:03 utc | 27

#GasChamberGate gets whitewashed by MSM

Daily Mail publishes a story of a "leaked email" they have seen that supposedly shows that chlorine levels in some technical document were "sexed up". The reality is a million times worse. Thousands of Syrian civilians were massacred by pro-Western rebels in gas chambers with chlorine gas. The OPCW in The Hague colluded with these terrorist and facilitated mass murder by knowingly falsifying the facts and accusing "Assad" of murder.

A comment by "BM" on Moon of Alabama says it as it is:

"Those who deliberately falsified reports and deliberately covered up crimes against humanity are themselves guilty - as co-conspirators - of crimes against humanity. This is true of course even if there was no communication between them and the perpetrators of the mass murders. And whilst the "chemical warfare attack by the Syrian Government" was clearly staged and did not happen, the murders of the victims filmed were very real, and certainly carried out specifically as preparation for the staged attack."

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Nov 24 2019 22:14 utc | 28

@8 steveK9

Thanks for that link and embedded video.

@27 thanks for looking and the ruminations


Here is a thought, tariffs are a kind of sanction karma. After dealing sanctions out to most the world, the PTB are deploying them (sanctions) in the form of tariffs against the civilian population.

One of these days they might clue in, but I'm not holding my breath

Posted by: les7 | Nov 24 2019 22:29 utc | 29

How many months did Hong Kong endure terroristic demonstrators demanding "democracy"? Here's an Asia Times article complete with pic exclaiming: "High voter turnout expected to help ease HK tensions" in a fundamental exercise in democracy.

As I wrote at the outbreak of the protests, Hong Kong has all the trappings of democracy--political parties, elections, corruption, etc. So, the idiotic Outlaw US Empire's Congress passed an absolutely worthless bit of legislation regarding the institution of democracy within Hong Kong that both China and Hong Kong will be 100% correct to ignore.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 24 2019 22:31 utc | 30

Sanctions restrict other nations' access to goods, technology, finance, etc

Tariffs limit your own peoples' access to goods, technology, finance, etc

Posted by: les7 | Nov 24 2019 22:35 utc | 31

"As everybody here knows, you can't be mayor, senator or governor in NY without the direct blessing of Wall Street. As a billionaire and ex-NY politician, Bloomberg is certainly receiving real time updates on the situation of Wall Street."

Posted by: vk | Nov 24 2019 20:06 utc | 17

Lol, you missed the point completely. The reason Bloomberg "is certainly receiving real time updates on the situation of Wall Street" is no mystery and requires no theorising concerning his NY political connections. It requires only that one knows that he is "co-founder, CEO, and owner of Bloomberg L.P., a global financial services, software and mass media company that bears his name, and is known for its Bloomberg Terminal, a computer software system providing financial data widely used in the global financial services industry"

He'd never get elected POTUS on a Democratic ticket anyway. Why? Well you said it yourself:

    "After the bail out, Obama lost both of his majorities in the regional elections of 2010. He then became a de facto figurative emperor (the "lame duck")"

Both black and white working class voters simply won't show up to vote for him, given who he is and what he clearly represents. It's the exact same problem Killary had and still has. Dems thinking Bloomberg would be a viable candidate, would be about as smart a move as running Killary a second time.

Posted by: Realist | Nov 24 2019 22:36 utc | 32

vk @ 17

Hmmm... Bloomberg coming on board -- definitely a message. Certain elements wanting a 'controlled' messenger 'injected' into the illusion to try and maintain this crazy paradigm that is crumbling at an exponential rate. He's tried it before -- not sure why he/others think it will work this time? Is is just preceived damage control LOL?

Posted by: Jayne | Nov 24 2019 22:42 utc | 33

Re:32 &Bloomberg

Running Bloomberg as a candidate would more or less guarantee Trump's re-election

Posted by: Realist | Nov 24 2019 22:48 utc | 34

vk @ 17

Never got to visit his London Mithraeum project while visiting London. Will try next time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Mithraeum

Would be interesting to know more about him...

Posted by: Jayne | Nov 24 2019 22:53 utc | 35

john Brewster @27--

Open threads are really the only proper venue for anything off topic, although IMO it's difficult for the writer to determine the level of acceptance or rejection of the material given the usual paucity of replies. In your case, I must disagree with your opening premise, "Trump is to America what ISIS was to Syria - Orange ISIS," as the die for the rise of the Evil Outlaw US Empire and fate of its citizens was cast before Trump's birth as the essay I cited @25 proves. As a historian, I argue that the forces oppressing the US citizenry have always been present but arose in a more solidary manner during US Grant's terms in office which prompted the rise of the countervailing force known as the Populists after the debacle of the 1876 election and culminated with The Triumph of Conservatism as the Gilded Age was euphemized as the Progressive Era and the seeds of Neoliberalism were planted with the rise of the Financial Class of Oligarchs. If all that seems complicated and new it's because for the vast majority who aren't students of the US Empire it is thanks to the "bending" of US History to serve the Current Oligarchy's narrative, not the People's.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 24 2019 22:58 utc | 36

While his country is on the verge of civil war...Netanyahu, in his last cabinet meeting, talked mainly about protests in Iran, no mention of his indictment...Guess now who is highly likely behind those protests...

https://twitter.com/Ruptly/status/1198717174849974272

https://twitter.com/Ruptly/status/1198652498694856704

It seems to me that what has just happened in Bolivia could well be a general rehearsal with everything for other scenarios where the losers of elections will not be willing to accpet the result or an indictment on them by the judiciary...I fear that what we are witnessing happening in Israel, will be repeated in the US in case Trump would lose the coming elections...The difference with Bolivia is that in both cases, Israel and the US, people there are armed to the teeth...Thus it is expected that the deads will multiply into the hundreds...

And it is that this is always a danger accepting in any way, slightly or strongly, fascist coups in other locations, since once kinda legitimated by some in the international community this method of achieving power, the same scenaro could be repeat at any other place where the supporters of the coup have an interest, especially when it is their own countries.....

Posted by: Sasha | Nov 24 2019 23:06 utc | 37

Meawhile, in the US...reasons for deepening the divide increase by the minute...This time amongst the WH administration and Pentagon...

https://www.rt.com/usa/474234-us-navy-secretary-resigns-seal-gallagher/

Trumpo meddling with military judiciary and voerpasing their indictments is a bad signal for future indictments on him...

Civil war is increasingly near...One never know how fast thsi events could explode...after all there are people iginiting sparks continuously, especially the WH tenant...

Posted by: Sasha | Nov 24 2019 23:11 utc | 38

Will anyone with any common decency give this woman and public send-off... Je***

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ruth-bader-ginsburg-released-hospital-infection-1257695

Posted by: Jayne | Nov 24 2019 23:26 utc | 39

karlof1 @ 36

Thanks for the reply. It sounds like we are on two different timescales. Your view reminds me of Howard Zinn - the US has always been the corrupt creature of elites. And yes, that is a completely arguable case.

I argue that the forces oppressing the US citizenry have always been present but arose in a more solidary manner during US Grant's terms in office which prompted the rise of the countervailing force known as the Populists

Can you please explain "arose in a more solitary (correct spelling?) manner"? Do you mean that Grant (with a reputation for complete corruption) simply turned the government over to the newly arisen industrial tycoons in one quick maneuver, and that was it for our so-called Jeffersonian democracy?

If all that seems complicated and new...

Not really. I read Kolko in the early 1970s, and his argument was well researched. It also coincides with John Gray's argument in "False Dawn" that US capitalism is a much more savage capitalism than European capitalism, and that Europe in 1900-1910 would certainly push back against US barbarism.

My timescale is much shorter. As a boomer, I grew up in an America whose government worked for its citizens (mostly due to shaming from the communists about racism, sexism, and worker exploitation). I got cheap college tuition, affordable student loans, and plenty of job opportunities. I got to express myself politically, until they anathematized so-called liberalism in 1980. So, in my time scale, it has been downhill for my entire life, with a baseline of a decent functioning government. That's why I feel that, while "the die was cast (Alea iacta est) before Trump's birth", the actual crossing of the Rubicon is right now.

I certainly agree with you that the US was hijacked by elites long ago. The point of my comment was to try to come up with an "elevator pitch" to explain the current tactical situation to people, to get them to recognize that the CIA is running a hybrid war against its own government. Yes, the US government and elites are corrupt; but putting the CIA in control of the political process will make things immensely worse. Yes, its the MIC/nationalist crime family versus the CIA/globalist crime family; and neither care about me. Still, my probably Quixotic goal is to stop impeachment from becoming a standard political tool, wielded by intelligence agents instead of politicians.

Posted by: john brewster | Nov 24 2019 23:31 utc | 40

I don't often cite Eric Zuesse, but it appears his 4-part report published at The Saker's blog will be an exception. All 4-parts are compiled into one long article. Here's his hook:

"Furthermore, the American public should have been far more skeptical about the Ukrainegate narrative than they were, because, at first, Democrats were trying to use, as their ground on which to impeach Trump — and thereby to install the current Vice President Mike Pence as being America’s President — Trump’s having colluded with Russia in order to win the 2016 election against Hillary Clinton, but that effort failed because it was false and was based on highly questionable evidence, supplied largely through a firm, Crowdstrike, that the Democratic National Committee had hired in order to find dirt against then-candidate and now-President Trump. Now the Democrats’ ground, for replacing President Donald Trump by his Vice President Mike Pence, is that in Trump’s 25 July 2019 phone-call to Ukraine’s new President Volodmyr Zelensky, Trump supposedly pressured Zelensky to have Joe Biden investigated.

"One of the first signs of a liar is that the person switches his story — changes to a new and different reason for ‘justifying’ his actions (in this case, impeachment) — and this clearly is being done now by the Democrats and the ‘news’-media, in order to replace President Donald Trump by his Vice President Mike Pence. Consequently: Americans are insufficiently suspicious against the present impeachment hearings. Americans need to examine carefully beyond the mere surface — much deeper." [My Emphasis]

I very much like the way Zuesse approaches this important event because like me he has zero affiliation or affinity for either side and is only concerned with digging out the Truth of this entire affair that began during Obama's second term as quite a lot hangs in the balance for those willing to see. And Zuesse is 100% correct to say the Media is actively participating in trying to "bend" the citizenry's opinion as it conducts its own--falsified--trial by media.

As I've often written before, there are ample reasons to Impeach and Convict Trump, but none of them suit the politicos and their Oligarchic masters as they are all guilty of the same crimes. The result is an attempt to railroad a sitting POTUS out of office on completely false grounds--and they know they're false which is why they're lying and obfuscating so much. And such a result would indeed be a High Crime committed against the American People. Gabbard said Trump must be beaten at the ballot box, and I agree.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 24 2019 23:40 utc | 41

Bloomberg

I don't see Bloomberg as a real candidate. He's a Democracy Works! shill.

Bloomberg's PSA:

This is a real process and the the Democrats could really beat Trump with the right candiate (nah - Trump will have 8 years). A socialist has a real chance of winning the Democratic nomination (not really) but that shouldn't be allowed to happen because a socialist can't beat Trump (not true).

[sigh] Democracy is complicated, but don't worry 'cause people who love our country are engaged and things will work out just fine (go back to sleep).


Trump will almost certainly win in 2020. The Deep State seems to like the stability of 8-year terms judging by the three preceding Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama.

With the undisputed legitimacy and "mandate" of a second term, Trump will have the ability to be more belligerent. We are already on the path to war.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 24 2019 23:42 utc | 42

Carolyn Sissoko has a very good handle on the derivatives market and how it ties in to the recent massive bailout of the repo system.

She is a lawyer and derivatives expert and is now a Senior Lecturer in Economics, University of the West of England

I first noticed her in 2015. From an email I wrote at the time:

--Finally found someone who is researching what I think may be the next financial crisis: bailing out the shadow banking system.

The ground is already being set for this as with 'bail ins'. This is already on the books and means if a bank makes a bad investment it can use depositors money to bail themselves out. Also the Fed looks to be setting up to bail out money market funds on derivative losses rather than getting them out of the derivative business in a more controlled manner.


financial matters
October 23, 2015 at 8:31 pm

Timely and important work.

Sissoko:

“the lender of last resort role of the central bank should be limited, and, in particular, should not extend to the support of asset markets and “shadow banking.” Work in progress re-evaluates the reasoning behind the passage of the Glass-Steagall Act and argues that the Act was designed to prevent commercial banks from intermediating markets in what we would now call repurchase agreements, because of the prominent role such lending can play in fostering asset price bubbles.”

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/10/negative-real-rates-signify-a-broken-financial-system.html. ------

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also:

csissoko
January 13, 2016 at 1:06 pm

One additional points:

The whole tri-party repo market (at least to the degree that securities other than treasuries serve as collateral) was explicitly prohibited by Glass-Steagall. In fact, there is still a law on the books, 12 USC s. 374a that reads: “No [Federal Reserve] member bank shall act as the medium or agent of any nonbanking corporation, partnership, association, business trust, or individual in making loans on the security of stocks, bonds, and other investment securities to brokers or dealers in stocks, bonds, and other investment securities.” (All banks regulated by the OCC must be Federal Reserve members.)

Only due to the absurd fiction that repos are not loans, but sales and repurchases can JPM and BNY play the role they do in this market.

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She has a recent excellent post on her site 'Synthetic Assets'

https://syntheticassets.wordpress.com/2019/05/23/the-dismantling-of-the-economys-legal-infrastructure-v-3-portfolio-theory-replaces-banking-theory/

""In fact, over the course of the 2007-09 crisis we learned that banks are special – because they have access to the Federal Reserve’s discount window – and a major part of their business was providing guarantees to non-banks that effectively gave the non-banks indirect access to the discount window.""

""In 1971 the first money market fund was created. A money market fund (MMF) is an investment product offered by a brokerage firm or mutual fund company that invests only in short term assets and that treats its shares as having a fixed value that earns interest, just like a savings account. These “interest-bearing” accounts also offer some check-writing privileges. As the accounting treatment for MMFs was first addressed by the SEC in 1977and only formally approved by the SEC in 1983, this was a case of industry pushing boundaries and being successful after the instrument had become “too big to fail.” By the end of 1982 nearly as much money was held in MMFs as in demand deposits at commercial banks.""

""Thus, issues of non-bank commercial paper were – and are – typically supported by a bank guarantee.""

""Portfolio theory, by concealing the true nature of the transformation of the financial system, also concealed the fact that in this new system of indirect rather than direct bank intermediation, the largest banks had a significant advantage. Wholesale funding carries risks for the lender that deposits don’t and therefore wholesale funding markets favor large, too-big-to-fail banks. For the same reason, too-big-to-fail banks had an advantage in providing the guarantees supporting commercial paper issues. In short, the principal effect of the shift from banking theory to portfolio was not the advertised effect, that of promoting competition and facilitating the growth of “market-based” lending, but instead to promote the interests of large, too-big-to-fail banks which played key roles in making the so-called “market-based” lending work.""

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It should be clear that 'too big to fail' means that this is where the government is spending our public funds.

Posted by: financial matters | Nov 24 2019 23:51 utc | 43

john brewster@40:

"My timescale is much shorter. As a boomer, I grew up in an America whose government worked for its citizens... cheap college tuition, affordable student loans, and plenty of job opportunities...in my time scale, it has been downhill for my entire life, with a baseline of a decent functioning government. That's why I feel that, while "the die was cast (Alea iacta est) before Trump's birth", the actual crossing of the Rubicon is right now...."

Forgive me for truncating your statement there - I did so only because as a pre-boomer, and also an immigrant, my experience was much the same as yours. And what I have to wrestle with is an awareness of a certain connectivity between the structure and intent of the US Constitution and the Charter of the United Nations which karlof1 has posted on. To me also, comes a memory of a New York Times editorial actually composed by Putin some time back, in which he called to task US policy for not adhering to what the composers of the US Constitution (including the Bill of Rights adjustments) were aiming for.

That historical framework may not be what has been the experience foisted upon us as the country went out of whack during our lifetimes, but the framework allowed for that serendipity in the longer lifetimes of our populace, and could even have led to some of the better ideas of multipolarity other nations are pursuing today. Sometimes less than perfect people do good things is the mantra which seems to apply in this case. At least, it did for me as a newcomer to this country at that time.

I'll see if I can find and link to that Putin address. I'm remembering that Ahmedinijab [sorry for spelling] did a similar editorial as well.

Posted by: juliania | Nov 25 2019 0:34 utc | 44

financial matters @43

That's important info that very few understand or care to take the time to understand, though they certainly should.

Without getting into the details, IMO what they've done is bet the whole economy on the success of the Empire. There's no turning back. It's global domination or ruin. Dollar hegemony MUST prevail. Markets MUST expand. And setbacks MUST be immunized (no deep recessions). Until the whole world is integrated under the Western markets and no further expansion is possible. THEN and only then can they unwind by sticking the masses with the bill (resulting in a deep and long recession).

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 25 2019 0:40 utc | 45

Jackrabbit @ 45.  Very true

They are definitely going all out to try and keep things patched up.

I think the Empire/dollar hegemony is on a collision course with the Eurasian belt and road and is loosing on all fronts.

The West has to give up neoliberalism and spend its money on worthwhile projects.

ie. http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2019/10/the-peoples-money-part-1.html

Posted by: financial matters | Nov 25 2019 0:55 utc | 46

john brewster @40--

Mike Ruppert posited that Bush/Cheney crossed the Rubicon with 911 in Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil, which was morally/mentally crossed in August 1945 and on numerous subsequent occasions, perhaps most famously at the beginning of 1962 well before missiles and pigs with the request for and authoring of Operation Northwoods--911's blueprint.

The bankers and nascent industrial titan classes began to coalesce during Grant's terms, primarily with the Railroads, and became known as The Money Power and arch foes of the Populists--recall initial Anti-Trust legislation was aimed at Railroads. At about the same time, reactionary forces were combining in England with their American allies to pushback against the agenda of the Classical Economists, whose aim was to eliminate the Rentier Class and its Free Lunch. Hudson calls that aspect of what I call the Current Oligarchy the FIRE sector, which are the actors most responsible for the current global condition--more of which here.

Many opine about when the "Great Betrayal"--the repudiation of American democracy and soiling of the "American Dream"--began. The "Dream" has always been hypothetical and the USA has never been an actual democracy. One of the best introductions to the messy history of the Outlaw US Empire is Empire As A Way of Life: An Essay on the Causes and Character of America's Present Predicament Along with a Few Thoughts about an Alternative by William Appleman Williams, one of the best and perhaps least known historians of the US Empire. I'm highlighting this section of the linked open preview because of its significance:

"The empire as a territory and as activities dominated economically, politically, and psychologically by a superior power is the result of empire as way of life. This is particularly important in the case of the United States because from the beginning the persuasiveness of empire as a way of life effectively closed off other ways of dealing with the reality that Americans encountered." [Emphasis Original]

In other words, the US polity was Imperialized/Colonized from its inception and has never gained its independence. Lying within the rhetoric used by Sanders and Gabbard is the fundamental threat to the Current Oligarchy of liberating the American polity for the first time in its existence. And it's a threat seen more easily by the D-Party than by the R-Party factions supporting Trump. Indeed, Trump's election was caused by the above and other never articulated reasons the media and D-Party still try to suppress.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 25 2019 1:07 utc | 47

financial matters @43 & 46--

Thanks ever so much for providing that critical info and links to more! Gotta find more time to read ever more material!

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 25 2019 1:12 utc | 48

@25 karlof1

Good piece by Chung - many thanks. And yes indeed, the policies intended by FDR are still waiting to be implemented, and it is now more than one dead president who cannot help us.

We inhabit a tragedy, multiple tragedies. This is why it feels so tragic.

Only when we in our resistance attain the scale of the injustice done to us will we ever be able to challenge and throw off the yoke placed upon us.

The reason fascism was still able to enter the US despite the defeat of Hitler was because Hitler was never the kernel of this vision. It is now out in the open, that Hitler was funded by several Western banks, including the Bank of International Settlements and the Bank of England. This is really nothing surprising. Fascism is another side of the face of colonialism. Colonialism is a tool to subjugate nations that have not yet found their independence, fascism is the tool used to subjugate nations who have already found their independence. The goal is the same; to have them all conform, in one form or another, to one body of central control. This is also nothing surprising. This has been the vision under the British Empire since its inception, and yes Britain continues to look at world policy through this lens, this is what continues to dictate the fallacious “rules” of geopolitics today.

That link again: On Churchill’s ‘Sinews of Peace’

Posted by: Grieved | Nov 25 2019 1:16 utc | 49

Thanks karlof1!

Posted by: financial matters | Nov 25 2019 1:17 utc | 50

Pro-establishment trounced in the HK elections.

Many people belived the blatant use of violence would be detrimental to the so-called "pro-democracy" (they also call themselves "pan-democratic") camp in the upcoming elections.

The people who believed that didn't learn the lessons we've discussed here in this very blog in the post about the "lessons learned in Bolivia". There, we discussed on the role violence has in human History. Violence is accepted as along as it acts under one's interests.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe these elections are over council seats, not legislative seats.

If that's the case, then the Hong Konger capitalist elite will have a decision to make: either it conforms to the socialist hegemony from Beijing and crushes the localists ("pan-democratic") or it turns on the "fuck it" mode and goes all in in installing a beach-head by trying to attract American military personel to the island-city by whatever means necessary.

But that's not the most important thing about these elections.

The most important lesson is that it confirms my hypothesis that China indeed honors the 1C2S social contract, and that HK is really and sincerely capitalist. Carrie Lam took this drubbing because, albeit the common people is not satisfied with the destruction and chaos by the liberals, they are also not very happy with her capitalist masters. Lam is not a communist: she's a capitalist and represents a very specific ilk of HK capitalists who, somehow, were able to survive both British and Communist rule. The HK elite has its own agenda.

The only chance Lam had of winning these elections would be if she followed the advice I posted here once: take the shotguns out of the armories and massacre the pro-USA protesters. That way, the "lesser of the two evils" part of the population (which is the majority) would vote for her camp out of sheer fear and respect.

But she dig her own political grave by going too soft on the liberals.

If that was an imposition from Beijing, then that's an interesting thing to consider, because I've also speculated here about the communists' options on HK.

It's already known that these protests have, as a background, the collapse of HK capitalism, not of Chinese socialism (no matter what the NYT or The Guardian publish).

Beijing may be considering essentially two broad strategies: 1) wait for HK capitalism to fully collapse and simply march on the island and install socialism over the remains or 2) wait for the HK elite to come begging and rise the price of maintaining the 1C2S.

Sincerely, I think they will wait for the HK capitalist elite to make the first move.

And one last lesson: nothing substitutes a good historical and concrete analysis of reality. Polls are imperfect and do not, alone, configure an acceptable tool of complex social relations in the context of an election.

Posted by: vk | Nov 25 2019 1:25 utc | 51

Damn, I feel like I am late to the party here.

Grieved at # 49 quoted the same part of the article from karlof1's excellent Strategic Culture link that I did over on the MoA News?....thread prefaced by similar thoughts of mine

financial matters has provided excellent links and dialogue about how the private banking system including the shadow banking system have a fully loaded Super-Priority derivative gun pointed at the US/West world to enslave and own what little is left to the masses

And newcomer john brewster has provided a cogent analogy of ISIS and Trump to the mix of description about the current circus acts

Thanks to all and keep it coming

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 25 2019 1:30 utc | 52

Likkelmore - 9
Pentagon having "lost" trillions isn't new, that's been going on and mentioned from time to time at least since the advent of W. Bush. Though of course the amount was lower back then, just a few trillions. Every few years, it pops up again, of course an inflated sum since the looting has been going on since then.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Nov 25 2019 2:03 utc | 53

@51 I must admit to being quite surprised by the election results in Hong Kong. Yes I know it was only about council seats. But I think it's a mistake to see it only in terms of capitalism v. socialism or elite v. ordinary people. A lot of the protesters are the sons and daughters of wealthy parents. I think it's more a question of people who were born and educated in Hong Kong adjusting to an influx of people from the mainland. I know a lot of Hong Kongers just don't like them. What happens next is anybody's guess.

Posted by: dh | Nov 25 2019 2:03 utc | 54

Jesus, another word about Biden & son, and I'll barf. Investigate him, of course, everyone knows he's a sycophant for the empire, but while people are "leg humping" folks about him and his son's corruption, let's take a good look at DJT's children
also. But, we all know that'll NEVER happen, because big organised money owns everything. Top to bottom.


As long as the US dollar reigns supreme, nothing can change..

"It's just business, get over it"

Posted by: ben | Nov 25 2019 3:12 utc | 55

james @3

"If U.S. Attorney John Durham is allowed to do his job probing the origins of Russiagate, . . ."

I see bevies of coincidences on the horizon.

Barr Ends All Conspiracy Theories Forever By Saying Epstein Died Via A Series Of Coincidences

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This perfect storm of unlucky oopsies include Epstein being taken off suicide watch not long after a previous suicide attempt and shortly before his successful suicide, suggestions that the first attempt may have actually been an assault via attempted strangulation inflicted by someone else, two security guards simultaneously falling asleep on the job when they were supposed to be checking on Epstein, one of those guards not even being an actual security guard, security footage of two cameras outside Epstein’s cell being unusable due to a mysterious technical glitch, at least eight Bureau of Prisons officials knowing Epstein wasn’t meant to be left alone in his cell and leaving him alone in his cell anyway, Epstein’s cellmate being transferred out of their shared space the day before Epstein’s death, Epstein signing a will two days before his death, unexplained injuries on Epstein’s wrists and shoulder reported by his family after the autopsy, and a forensic expert who examined Epstein’s body claiming that his injuries were more consistent with homicide than suicide.

“The attorney general also sought to dampen conspiracy theories by people who have questioned whether Epstein really took his own life, saying the evidence proves Epstein killed himself,” AP reports. “He added that he personally reviewed security footage that confirmed that no one entered the area where Epstein was housed on the night he died.”

Well if reporting that he’s reviewed footage which we were previously told didn’t exist isn’t enough to dampen those kooky conspiracy theories, I don’t know what is.

Posted by: pogohere | Nov 25 2019 3:48 utc | 56

@54

Gee, it's almost like the protest movement in Hong Kong has genuine popular support, or something.

I look forward to seeing how b will spin this to support his claim that it's a fake CIA color revolution.

Posted by: Merasmus | Nov 25 2019 3:54 utc | 57

@ 40 john brewster.. thanks for your posts.. i particularly liked and agreed with this quote from your post - " the CIA is running a hybrid war against its own government. Yes, the US government and elites are corrupt; but putting the CIA in control of the political process will make things immensely worse. "

thanks everyone for the many fine and informative posts...

Posted by: james | Nov 25 2019 4:32 utc | 58

karlof1 @ 47

It is not my intention to disagree with your characterization of the US as being broken from the beginning.

But, as an unemployably-old citizen of that benighted state, I do not find any prescription for how to proceed in your bleak, but accurate, recital. Perhaps you are not a US citizen, so it does not concern you. Unfortunately, I must live out the rest of my life in a society that is deliberately being destroyed. I am looking to minimize the damage.

I don't think you understand my definition of "crossing the Rubicon". Its clear that TPTB have looted just about everything they can from the US, and they are preparing to let it go smash. They are willing to countenance the civil war that I mentioned. The Rubicon is that, as never before, TPTB are quite willing to see massive governmental failure, rioting, and martial law going forward. There are already threats of civil war from the Trump camp. The average day in the US contains at least one shooting of multiple people. Once a month or so, there is a major mass murder. And that's without a civil war.

The international class that the US elites have migrated into simply don't care about America, except as a supplier of mercenaries and weapons. They already cashed out the US manufacturing base to China. They have juiced the stock market for all that it is worth, and will try to leave the impending collapse for the suckers. They will let Social Security go bankrupt by malign neglect (if governmental collapse doesn't kill it first), because they don't want to pay for "useless eaters". The bespoke MIC is already private, and they will try to keep the US taxpayer funding it. The MIC was outsourced by Rumsfeld to outfits like Blackwater/Xi/Whatever. The economy was turned over to looters like the Carlyle Group. The private equity vultures are occupying every high-return tollboth they can find.

To me, their willingness to turn the US into some low-grade version of Somalia is a major escalation. I do not have the luxury of a historian's view.

I welcome any advice you might have for how to survive.

Posted by: john brewster | Nov 25 2019 4:40 utc | 59

juliania @ 44

I appreciate that you understand the life history I am coming from. I don't see anything actionable in what you say, other than the hope that somehow decent people will muddle their way out of the mess we are in.

Myself, I hope for the best, but expect the worst.

Thanks for your comment.

Posted by: john brewster | Nov 25 2019 4:44 utc | 60

james @ 57

Thanks for getting it. I hate Trump as much as anyone; but the Democrats have sold their souls to the CIA. We all know what a pack of sociopathic gangsters the CIA is, yet the Dems are licking their asses 24/7 and salivating to go to war with someone/anyone.

Yes, Trump is a disaster. But we can vote him out in a year. Once the CIA proves it can destroy anyone with leaks, innuendoes, secret testimony, anonymous "witnesses", and dog knows what kind of blackmail (can you say Jeffrey Epstein?), our country can't even pretend to be a democracy anymore.

I will put up with another year of Trump to avoid being run by the CIA.

Posted by: john brewster | Nov 25 2019 4:52 utc | 61

psychohistorian @ 52

Thanks for describing my analogy as "cogent". I find that Trump is simultaneously a source of chaos that forwards the Deep State agenda and a target of the Deep State. That also describes ISIS. The whole mess reminds me of the head of the Czarist secret police also being the head of the revolutionaries. So easy to play both ends against the middle.

Our politics is so ruined, our media so corrupt that explaining the "wheels within wheels" behavior of Trump, the Israelis, the Ukrainians, and the CIA can't be done, except on websites such as this. Hat tip to b for allowing this kind of discussion.

Also, thanks for your constant reminder that the basic issue is public vs private banking. I have been rereading John Gray's "False Dawn". Even though he was writing in 1998, he pointed out that Chinese capitalism was much more supportive of society than American capitalism. I am trying to put together something on that topic, for presentation in an appropriate thread.

Posted by: john brewster | Nov 25 2019 5:03 utc | 62

karlof1 @ 41

there are ample reasons to Impeach and Convict Trump, but none of them suit the politicos and their Oligarchic masters as they are all guilty of the same crimes. The result is an attempt to railroad a sitting POTUS out of office on completely false grounds--and they know they're false which is why they're lying and obfuscating so much. And such a result would indeed be a High Crime committed against the American People.

I completely agree. They want to destroy the process of government, possibly even more than they want to destroy Trump.

Posted by: john brewster | Nov 25 2019 5:09 utc | 63

@ john brewster # 61 who wrote back to me
"
I find that Trump is simultaneously a source of chaos that forwards the Deep State agenda and a target of the Deep State.
"
Thanks for the response and your piece is cogent for the depiction you summarized above. There is only one controlling meme as you thank me for reminding folks about.....finance. It has been in charge of the Western culture and social contract for centuries and is playing it like a fiddle with TV personality Trump on center stage keeping the masses entertained while they set up the Shock Doctrine event to pull the rug out from under the US and still keep themselves in control of finance on an international level.......divide into small enough pieces and keep them fighting among themselves and control just continues because none can get enough cohesion to push back....at least that looks like their current battle plan to me.

karlof1 is from the same US state I am in, Oregon but he has a big picture view of things/history that I and others appreciate....and he is a great resource for news and insight that many of us don't or can't take time to pay attention to or ferret out.

I continue to also posit that salvation, if it comes, will be externally motivated by the advancement of China/Russia axis countries making structural change necessary to survive in the world without blowing it up.....globalism is a genie that can't be put back in the bottle...everything is interconnected and like climate change, has no borders....we are all passengers on spaceship Earth.

Thanks for joining the fray and try and stay above the negative/personal noise level....just keep telling your story and don't take negative responses personally but clarify when necessary/requested.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 25 2019 5:41 utc | 64

@ 60 john brewster.. thanks john.. i live in canada, but the fate of canada is unavoidably linked to the fate of the usa.. the same craziness is happening here in canada, of which i won't go into.. bottom line, i agree with your viewpoint and desire for a way towards greater sanity in an increasingly dangerous situation here for the world..

Posted by: james | Nov 25 2019 6:03 utc | 65

psychohistorian @63--

Thanks for the plug! On the subject of finance, "Rentier Capitalism – Veblen in the 21st century" is juicy--Marx wasn't the only one trying to mark out the path to Socialism without revolution--and is centered in the belly of the beast in tune with the works of Simon Patten, both of which are the most censored important American academics, and certainly tops in the field of political-economy.

john brewster @58--

I understand your anger and angst. We live in a cash economy; so, if you're cash-strapped, you can only do what you can. Try to be employed or service the non-discretionary side of the economy--help people with their needs and perhaps you'll get helped with yours. I happen to be very fortunate in my circumstances, but I too must be prudent. Connect with others in a political manner as being involved/engaged becoming more informed is far better than doing nothing. Realize that you're not at all alone and connect as you're doing here but also within your community.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 25 2019 6:17 utc | 66

I understand the situation Mr Brewster finds himself in. The only reason that I and many other contributors to this thread are not doing as bad is that we either live in states that still practice social welfare programs for the aged which look after retirees cos the political activists believe old f++kers still vote in large numbers and/or we have super/pension investments which are as yet untouched by the finance industry parasites.

The first gig I got in england was working in a pub off Fleet St just around the corner from the Daily Mirror, more than 40 years ago the printers, clerks n journos who drank in our house were yer basic decent humans. Robert & his daughter Ghislaine Maxwell stole all of those decent humans pension contributions, they died on the bones of their arses. The S&L scandal in amerika did the same for many amerikan workers and that scam has been repeated many times since. By slowly hiving off entitlements the result has been the same for retirees as workers whose conditions of service were denied to more recent recruits faced. Unity collapses in the face of difference.

I am not so silly as to delude myself that either state pension or investment funds are likely to outlast my existence. amerika is merely the first 'developed' nation to conclude that once humans become too old to earn the price of food & a roof, they must quietly die.

Wherever we currently live, whatever investments & funds we may still be fortunate enough to possess will be snatched by the arseholes in the coming bust and as more n more boomers fall off the twig, those same political smarties who are protecting out state pensions for political reasons will conclude that the tipping point has been passed & there are more votes from gen x, y & z in being seen to slap us down than sacrificing govt revenues that the greedies have been eyeing up for years to buy a handful of votes. I plan on living a coupla decades more, but I doubt that my current income will last more than one decade.
Some of us will stave off starving, many will not. If we could get past "I'm OK jack" right now when we still have the numbers and support those in Mr Brewster's position now, we would maybe succeed in protecting all older people long after we have karked it. If we don't, & instead imagine we'll be alright, then we will all go down one by one, underseving of any consideration.

Posted by: A User | Nov 25 2019 9:42 utc | 67

@ john brewster, well, i'm not sure this is going to be survivable in the long run. as a fellow boomer, i take cold comfort so to speak that i will likely not live to see climate change really kick into high gear, or the preceding social dissolution at maximum chaos. as to the interim, i guess stock up on canned goods, water, and weapons try to find someplace out in the boonies
where you and your family can grow food. i don't know when the chaos kicks off, but there is a nasty undercurrent now.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 25 2019 10:17 utc | 68

The Cynthia Chung essay on Churchill seems to accord closely with my own understandings, and it's fair. (Karlofi mooted the essay in a previous post)

Groves of the bombproject is quoted in Alperovitz as saying in March of '44 (prior to the exit of FDR) that the bomb was "for the Russians, not for Japan". Groves had to be associated with the Churchill policy coup in order to know that. He also ran a "vast intelligence operation" (Britannica) The liquidation of Dresden was evidently a demonstration to the Red Army, as were nuketests # 2 and #3, which were over Japan - and also demonstrations. So were the tests at Bikini in '46.

My only criticism is that the lady does not entirely understand the matter of meanings under the rubric of "racist" or "racism". Instead, she uses these terms in a narrow and generally pejorative way. This fault seems not to have materially detracted from an otherwise good job.

Some may recall that the term was entirely obscure and generally unknown, until Trotsky was translated to English - and it was used to describe as unworthy of consideration those who wanted to keep their own long-established ways of knowing and being...pretty much anybody who didn't agree with the Revolution's demands was a racist.

Racism has very little to do with race, it's a code-word, just as a "terrorist" is somebody the speaker wants the audience to consent to murdering or torturing, and of course not entitled to any rights at all, so a racist is somebody from whom you wish to remove any recourse to remedy at law, and whose position you wish to deny.

Fact is most people most of the time prefer the peace and prosperity of living in stable relationships with their own people. If then they object to disruptions and rapid change they are racists, or terrorists, depending on the circumstance and the speaker.

Winston was a drunk, a criminal, an art forger, corrupt, and a bigot. I'd have left out "racist", through it's also true.

Posted by: Walter | Nov 25 2019 10:40 utc | 69

John Brewster's thought and doubt... some jottings>

John, Water, your own well (and a nice fat aquifer). Sewage...septic under your control. Shelter comes with taxes...minimize, and stay rural. Garden. Keep chickens...Stay outta debt. Find locus of people who are of your own kind and stay there. Stay outside city limits, but not too far out. Pay attention to the County - is the sheriff fair? Is there basic industry? - Is code enforcement fair? The town that does best in hard times is a capitol town. Like casting the die, choose your bet.

Yeah, I too expect penury, but most of the county will be there too...and they're all the same confession, the same cultural ways, and they'll band together, as we saw in the recent "betatestsblackout".

Posted by: Walter | Nov 25 2019 11:16 utc | 70

psychohistorian @ 21 says:

I remember reading a bit about that in 2107 but the purposeful pace of the propaganda machine and obfuscation events ripped it from my consciousness as I am sure it did to others that might have seen it go by

i linked to that story when it broke toward the end of 2017, and have linked to it at least 4 or 5 times since, including the ensuing passage of the fearsome FASAB Standard 56 ...and never heard a peep out of you...or much of anyone else.

john brewster @ 60 says:

I will put up with another year of Trump to avoid being run by the CIA

after having said in his original screed @ 27:

Trump, like ISIS, is a cover story used by the CIA to demolish an existing government (i.e., what little is left of the U.S. Constitution) under the excuse of stopping "evil"

and then again @ 60 says:

Yes, Trump is a disaster. But we can vote him out in a year

you trying to confuse me, john?

Posted by: john | Nov 25 2019 12:06 utc | 71

A third leak from the OPCW in form of an internal email is additional evidence that the OPCW report on the Douma incident was massively manipulated.
"The author of the e-mail was a member of that team and claims the redacted preliminary version of the report, misrepresents the facts he and his colleagues discovered on the ground."

Regarding OPCW, we have come to the point where there is an absolute moral imperative that the former DG of the OPCW, his Chief of Staff Bob Fairweather, and numerous others responsible including all those directly responsible for the falsified reports urgently and compellingly need to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. No other outcome with respect to these individuals could be in any manner morally defensible.

Posted by: BM | Nov 25 2019 12:23 utc | 72

@ Clueless Joe 53

a trillion here, a trillion there. It becomes $21 trillion, unaccountable, and the data is classified as "National Security."

Global debt is said to be $250 trillion that will never be repaid. Negative or Zero interest on retirement funds rob retirees. Their money has no value.

Add salt and hot pepper to the wound; Credit card companies have access to free money yet charge CC holders at north of 27%.

We entered the financial collapse in 2007-2008. Prosperity is not built on adding more debt.
The FED disagrees:[.]"... the same "apolitical", private Federal Reserve, which is owned by a handful of commercial banks and whose members have never been subject to election by the general population...
now wishes to formalize its wealth redistribution agenda, and effectively become a political force which determines who gets richer and who gets poorer." [.]

IMHO, I thought that is what the FEDs were doing for the last 11 years.


Fast forward 2019. This figure is very troubling.... $120 billion in daily overnight repo operations.

Fed Braces For Year End Repo Turmoil

Posted by: Likklemore | Nov 25 2019 14:19 utc | 73

BM 71.. OCPW just a small remark...in Abby Martin's Gaza documentary or in an interview flogging that film, Ms Martin says that the zionist army has used an unknown poison gas (as well as 'teargas" (there are more than one) and of course also explosive illegal bullets). This "poison gas" may be lethal, I gathered, and also it causes nearly instantaneous hallucinations. Sounds like agent BZ or something close to that in chemistry... My ROTC section on CBW was in the early 1960's and it's been some time...

The point being that the OPCW is no longer reputable or credible, just as zionists seem to be testing BZ(x) in what they call "combat conditions", testing on kids... The door to use this stuff seems now to be open because the OPCW is "rf'd"

I presume that Russian intel will get some samples sooner or later.

The MSM will, no doubt, then claim the Palestinians are using poison gas that the Russians supplied...

Posted by: Walter | Nov 25 2019 14:24 utc | 74

@ Posted by: Merasmus | Nov 25 2019 3:54 utc | 56

Every color revolution has a genuine structural discontent background, by definition.

The essential here is that this color revolution happened in Hong Kong, and not in, e.g. Beijing, Shanghai or Shenzhen. Why is that? In my opinion, because only Hong Kong is capitalist.

Hong Kong has been terminally declining since the end of the 1990s (the Asian crisis of 1997), like all other capitalist societies. It has been growing just half the rate of socialist China since that period. It lost its luster.

Meanwhile, the lack of growth was combined with the fact that HK continued with the structural contradictions that exist in every capitalist society: declining wages in real terms, rising inequality, etc. etc. The moment it lost its relative privilege in relation to the socialist part of China, it lost the good side of capitalism, but retained all of its bad side features.

As a result, Hongkongers are suffering from all the onuses of capitalism, without reaping any of its benefits.

That is, except from one small group: the Hongkonger capitalist class. And who represents this class? You guessed it right: Carrie Lam.

The "pan-democrats" will pay dearly in the long term for confounding Carrie Lam with Beijing. That is the incorrect conjunctural analysis. In politics, the incorrect conjunctural analysis if often fatal when you're the weakest side of the war.

Now, the socialists can wait for the "pan-democrats" to destroy Carrie Lam, thus dealing a heavy blow to the Hongkonger capitalist class. This will weaken, not strengthen, Hongkonger capitalism. Beijing will be able to accelerate the integration of HK, albeit in a more traumatic form.

Posted by: vk | Nov 25 2019 14:50 utc | 75

@ Posted by: john brewster | Nov 24 2019 23:31 utc | 40

Today crisis is unparalleled in American history.

It is unparalleled for, basically, one very simple reason: it is the first domestic crisis the USA suffers in its structural economic decline era (post-2008).

The only moment that comes close is the post-1929 era. That crisis was solved only by one of the most extraordinary episodes in human history: WWII.

But, except for that episode, all the other crises that happened in the USA happened in a moment when it was either ascending (1776; 1861) or at its apex (1968).

Let's see how the Americans behave in this exceptional moment.

Posted by: vk | Nov 25 2019 14:59 utc | 76

This news will likely make America soil its XXL pants in spittle-flecked rage when it comes to pass:

The death of the US Dollar--and with it, the American Empire's ability to live beyond its means and extract imperial tribute from the rest of the world.

Putin announces the death of the dollar, and soon…
http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2019/11/putin-announces-death-of-dollar-and-soon.html

It will be interesting to see how America handles getting a taste of its own economic medicine, when chaos pays a visit to the USA.

Goodbye and good riddance to the American parasite.

Posted by: AK74 | Nov 25 2019 15:18 utc | 77

India appears to suffer the "Latin American" disease:

Indian IT workers facing massive layoffs: A rise in people losing their jobs in the IT industry is hitting mid- and senior-level managers the hardest

Indian IT services companies are increasing their hiring numbers in the US, despite higher costs, to counter the increasingly stringent norms of the H-1B visa program that allows companies to temporarily employ foreign workers in the US in specialty occupations.

Never put your country's future in the hands of the USA. For every penny they give, they will take ten back. See the tragedy of Latin America.

Posted by: vk | Nov 25 2019 15:27 utc | 78

#76. How behave. Good question. SoJ may morph into succession instead of statehood. We have already some outliers to suggest how people will behave. Violence might be expected. Dissolution of the allegiances might also be expected. People like Russel Bentley may be expected to stay and fight rather than go and fight...and murkaz full of guys like Comrade Texas. When things get tough it's reasonable that China will see investments as bargains in say, making a deal with Hawaii or California - Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs tells you pretty much how it goes. Ugly, really horrible, then, well, they say the Sun rises in the East, eh? (Texas said he'll repatriate when he can drive a Red Army APC down a US highway as part of peace-keeping ops - he's joking, I think...) Ultimately, as I have seen elsewhere, the OBOR project includes rail through Bering Strait (under) and down through northamerica, central America, and south America..running north/south, not eastwest - new rail on new routes....the obvious implication is that a real fubar in the US will attract actual "foreign intervention"...so one may see the fake total bs from billary and others as harbinger. Fake now, real later, but not until much horror is burned through. Nasty.

Last civil war involved much foreign influence...both Russian and English...and the Lincoln murder traces to what we now call MI6...

Somebody said americans ought to buy (while they can) Chinese and Russian flags, and hide them until they see the APCs with the red star.... Joking, who would doubt it?.

Posted by: Walter | Nov 25 2019 15:28 utc | 79

Another important information I forgot to post that's relevant for analysis:

The "pan-democrats", despite winning 17 of the 18 districts, happened to only earn 60% of the total votes. That's because HK still uses the British system's FPTP.

Both the "pan-democrats" and the "establishment" candidates blame Carrie Lam in person for the overall and specific results.

Posted by: vk | Nov 25 2019 15:35 utc | 80

You're so worried about the pain that Trump's sanctions, i.e. collective punishment and tyranny against Iran, Venezuela and Cuba inflict on so many people in those countries AND YET HERE YOU ARE DAY IN AND DAY OUT PROTECTING AND DEFENDING THAT ASSHOLE WITH SPIN THAT FAVORS HIS RE-ELECTION AND ENCOURAGING DEBUNKED CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT HE HIMSELF PEDDLES. WHY DON'T YOU WRITE THAT TRUMP IS THE ONE WHO REINSTALLED SANCTIONS ON CUBA?

Posted by: Circe | Nov 25 2019 15:46 utc | 81

AK74 | Nov 25 2019 15:18 utc | 77 in the video you mooted President P is translated as saying "they will collapse soon". The previous sentence referred to "the americans", so I tend to accept the subtitled translation as accurate, but I am unsure. I understand a bit of Russian, but not enough to know if the translation is accurate.

If in fact it is "they", then it would be the Americans that would collapse soon. This may be a reasonable thing to predict.

About the dollar though, I have heard unequivocal claims at Keiser Report that predicted 100% sure NLT 9 months - and that was about a month ago...

Of course, if he's actually saying "the dollars (they) will", then we might understand that he predicted dollar collapse.

Can somebody hereabout whose Russian is solid please clarify?

The video AK74 mooted is also on YT.

Logic seems to favor the sequence of collapse as first the buckies go, then the rule, and then horrors really start... Not that it matters with goes first, the outcome is "bad".

Posted by: Walter | Nov 25 2019 15:58 utc | 82

Similarly the employment of monomaniacs like Fiona Hill on the 'Russian file' is pretty well guaranteed to lead, in the short run, to imperial defeats.
So, here's too Fiona: Cheers!

Posted by: bevin | Nov 24 2019 17:58 utc | 5

It corroborates the point I was making since Trump presidential campaign, the guy is incoherent and to some degree stupid. He is not senile and has wide knowledge and experience in domestic politics and international relations when they pertain to real estate development, resorts, casinos, pandering to ridiculous tastes of a significant subset of rich people etc. But the further we go away from those topic the less impressive he is.

Tragicomically, his idea of useful nominations in spheres of defense and foreign policy could not be more wrong. Domestically, he probably knew who can reliably wreck havoc to the benefit of assorted business tycoons with whom he played golf, sold real estate and country club membership etc., but people in charge of the foreign stuff that he collected are outright dangerous, as he is experiencing. It is hard to predict where this circus will lead, but there exist "realist" and "paleo-con" right wingers that he could choose, say, from Claremont Institute. They tend to be obscure, given the domination of imperialists in D.C., but they do exist. And not all of them are idiots like Gen. Flynn who have fallen into a trap that he should foresee.

So he sticked to nominations like Bolton and Pompeo, people who recruited dangerous zealots like Fiona Hill (or failed to replace them).

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 25 2019 16:10 utc | 83

To be fair, Trump breaks the law on a daily basis.
He and his fellow clowns never expected such a dust-up over a little blackmail.
Normal, everyday stuff.

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Nov 25 2019 16:16 utc | 84

Current main headline at Reuters:

Special Report: ‘Time to take out our swords' - Inside Iran’s plot to attack Saudi Arabia

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-aramco-attacks-iran-special-rep/special-report-time-to-take-out-our-swords-inside-irans-plot-to-attack-saudi-arabia-idUSKBN1XZ16H

Big surprise - anonymous sources:


This account, described to Reuters by three officials familiar with the meetings and a fourth close to Iran’s decision making, is the first to describe the role of Iran’s leaders in plotting the Sept. 14 attack on Saudi Aramco, Saudi Arabia’s state-controlled oil company.

Everyone is aware that Netanyahu wants and needs an attack upon Iran right away and
John Brennan, etal, are feeling the heat with the imminent release of John Durham's investigation and IG Horowitz's report.
They all need a major change in direction and diversion and a useful pretext for attacking Iran.

Posted by: librul | Nov 25 2019 16:34 utc | 85

@72 BM.. i would like to see that happen...

@75 vk... thanks... i think you are seeing this really clearly...

Posted by: james | Nov 25 2019 16:38 utc | 86

juliana @44

The Sept. 11, 2013 NYT Op-Ed by Putin.

Posted by: Evelyn | Nov 25 2019 16:41 utc | 87

librul @85: and a fourth close to Iran’s decision making

That sounds like Magnier - who was a big proponent of the notion that Iran did the tanker attacks.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 25 2019 16:53 utc | 88

@86 Have you ever been to Hong Kong james? vk seems to be missing the point IMO. The situation there has less to do with class struggle than it does with cultural clash.

Posted by: dh | Nov 25 2019 17:00 utc | 89

Duncan Idaho @84:

He and his fellow clowns never expected such a dust-up over a little blackmail.

I don't agree. Trump knows that his WH leaks and he rarely puts his fingerprints on the underhanded /unethical things that he does. He uses cut outs like Cohen and Giuliani.

Biden announced his run for President about 3 months prior to the call (April 25). Is Trump really dumb enough to personally involve himself in soliciting 'dirt' on an announced opponent? And it was 16 months before the 2020 election - why would Trump be concerned about one potential opponent in a field of 20+?

And consider: Ukrainegate has helped Biden by drawing attention away from the other candidates. It's all Biden vs. Trump now. Given Trump's extensive use of kayfabe, this was probably what was intended.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 25 2019 17:09 utc | 90

I see zerohedge has an article from naturalnews that facebook is now banning any content that questions the efficacy, safety, and questioning as it pertains to mandating forced vaccination onto children.

Do we all think this to be such a fringe, loony issue still that this action shouldn't raise further alarm? That the mere motion of facebook censorship isn't inextricably tied to big government pulling the wool over our eyes? Oh no...it is an eye-rolling topic I can see with much of the commentariat here. How dreadfully sad. Very few it seems can put the pieces together, that we are being ushered all into a Franz Kafka's the trial, and further led out to the cobblestone street by a pair of bureaucrat muscle, a tweddle-dee and -dum, to be knifed and gutted "like a dog." oh how clairvoyant Kafka was with regards to our predicament. He know the only help we would get would be the vague figure peeling back the curtains from a 2nd story window, looking down at the murder scene with passive disinterest.

B, thank you for allowing these comments. I promise to not belabor or hijack the off-topic thread. I will hopefully be starting my own blog soon.

I would appeal to all to peruse the last open thread and read my comments in addition to the responses, in particular the one from old microbiologist. I am still awaiting his response to my questions for him.

Thank you all.

Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Nov 25 2019 17:21 utc | 91

Brexit. Boris’ premiership is a speeded up version of May’s. A majority of MPs voted for Bojo’s ‘deal’ - an amended version of May’s - to go forward (329 vs. 299 - “very encouraging” Bojo said), agreed to by the EU as it corresponded to an original proposal of theirs, separating off Northern Ireland.

Parliament did not approve the time-table for ‘getting it done’ - cramming it through speedily was blocked. I read several commentaries from in the know ppl / sites who considered that Bojo made a mistake; that calling for an election instead of continuing to pursue getting ‘his’ deal approved was stupid. No, Bojo understood perfectly well that ‘his deal’ could not gather a majority (all ‘brex. deals’ face insuperable obstacles, cannot find a majority..) and hoping for a larger Tory majority aka calling another election was the only open path. (Corbyn agreeing to that is another story.)

The election (12 dec) is said to be all about Brexit, which it is, but the issue has gone underground in the MSM (which heavily favors The Tories, 1) The Tories have leavers in their pocket, and their no. 1 problem is dealing with Farage (see Farage flipping about putting up Brexit Party candidates, etc.)

The election (imposs. to predict in detail) will imho perhaps throw up a marginal Tory majority. Labour will do better than predicted in the polls, Corbyn is a good campaigner, Labour is favored by young ppl, etc. Lib Dems will do worse (Swinson is a disaster) .. Scotland will vote SNP.

>> ? Another ‘hung parliament’, resulting in dodgy alliances, stubborn oppositions, etc.

The next deadline, extension granted by the EU, is 31 Jan. 2020.

The choices are immutable: Crash-out / Revoke art. 50 / extend once more. Plus ... Extend again is one year, or two years.. (though there are conditions…)

The roots of Brexit, long read (note, half the length is footnotes.)

https://richardhutton.wordpress.com/category/brexit-was-the-result-of-a-corporate-lobbying-campaign-which-backfired/

1. The MSM sees as a threat: USA: Trump, deplorables. UK: Corbyn, communists. France: the street - Gilets Jaunes, plebs. Nothing to do with left/right, pol. parties, etc.

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 25 2019 17:37 utc | 92

I had misread Trumps complaints that EU was not carrying their fare share of NATO cost:
https://www.rt.com/news/474285-germany-huawei-nsa-scandal/

Now I see is more of a threat that we will take ball and go home if things don't go our way.

Was Merkle Evo'ed?

BTW (not wanting to be Russian agent, but this was rather heart-warming as well):
https://www.rt.com/news/474230-spiegel-magnitsky-browder-fraudster-west/

And this one, I worry for the students:
https://nypost.com/2019/11/25/oberlin-college-students-erect-memorial-to-palestinian-terrorists/

Posted by: jared | Nov 25 2019 18:12 utc | 93

https://udn.com/news/story/10930/4185036

The recently self-claimed CCP spy who "defected" to Australia, is exposed as a total fraudster by an ex-Taiwan intelligence officer. Most damning of all was his Point #10, about the so-called spy blindly regurgitating KMT/DPP party info that is already publicly-known in Taiwan as top secret material to the Aussies. (Translation by me).

Posted by: JW | Nov 25 2019 18:12 utc | 94

@85 librul

Whut? That is more bunk and hogwash than I can handle. FYI, your god Trump is Netanyahoo's and KSA's biggest supporter! If there is an invasion of Iran it will be orchestrated by Trump with those two favorite cohorts. It'll have Trump's stamp all over it! So quit with the b.s. already! And one more piece of news you missed: it's already been reported that the Horowitz report will confirm that there was no bias in the Mueller investigation and only a sloppy FISA report in the case of Carter Page, but the rest of the investgation is cleared of bias of any kind.

Now I can't stand Brennan myself, but none of the above has anything to do with that thug. Quit with the deceptive spin already! Your boy Trump has been after Iran since day ONE.

Posted by: Circe | Nov 25 2019 18:13 utc | 95

Nemesiscalling @91

No, NOT a fringe, loony issue , though we are made to feel like it is. You know, a "conspiracy theory", or whatever.

Is this the article you're referencing?

Posted by: Evelyn | Nov 25 2019 18:17 utc | 96

Colombia has been the centre of imperialist attacks in Latin America for many years, pretty well since the Presidential candidate of the 'left was assassinated in 1948. It has been ruled by a vicious alliance of the Army and, doing the even dirtier work, paramilitaries financed by the narco traffickers and, at risk of repeating myself, the CIA.
Now there is big trouble in Colombia, which is going to have the immediate effect of preventing the imperialists from using the country as a base for attacks on Venezuela. Perhaps the Venezuelan movement will spread and over turn the fascist rulers of Colombia. We shall see.
Here is an article from the British Communist paper the Morning Star online

"PANICKED President Ivan Duque called for a “national dialogue” today after three days of mass protests across Colombia against inequality and state and paramilitary violence.

"Following a giant demonstration by hundreds of thousands of people in Bogota on Thursday, rallies continued, with crowds banging pots and pans outside Mr Duque’s residence and chanting: “Get out, Duque!” and “No violence!”

The state deployed 7,000 troops in the capital and tried to impose curfews there and in Cali for the first time in over 40 years. Three protesters have been killed so far and one teenager seriously injured when riot police charged a crowd and fired tear gas into it on Saturday. Mr Duque says he is ordering an urgent investigation into who was responsible for the young man’s injuries and claimed to be in “solidarity with his family.”

"He has promised a week of meetings with “different social sectors” to address the people’s grievances. These include his government’s plans to raise the retirement age, increase pension contributions from employees, cut public spending and lower the minimum wage.

Outrage at paramilitary murders of social activists, trade unionists and former Farc guerillas – despite 2016’s peace agreement with the communist organisation – has also prompted protest, with a military attack on a rebel camp that killed 18 children cited by demonstrators. Art student Katheryn Martinez said: “This is a government that kills children.”

"Another, Oscar Javier Diaz, said he was demonstrating against attacks on indigenous people and accused the government of imposing terror in response. He told al-Jazeera: “Imagine you're in your bed, calm and thinking nothing will happen, then you begin hearing the helicopters, the military trucks passing through the streets. You hear weapons, next screams, shots from the security forces.”

Posted by: bevin | Nov 25 2019 18:24 utc | 97

@ Posted by: dh | Nov 25 2019 17:00 utc | 89

I disagree with your hypothesis of "cultural clash" in HK.

I do for one very simple reason: it doesn't explain why the protests erupted in 2019 and not in 1997. After all, the cultural differences were greater in 1997 than in 2019.

Sure, you could argue for the mass migration causality -- which triggered the rise of localism in Western Europe since the destruction of Libya -- but this argument doesn't apply for HK, which has seen its population stagnate since the mid-2000s. So, there's no Chinese version of "Dorian Invasion" in HK.

Besides, the racial arguments the Hongkongers use don't even make sense: it doesn't matter if you speak Mandarin or Cantonese -- you're still ethnically Han Chinese. Hong Kong was never an independent people before.

This "cultural clash" hypothesis gets even more ridiculous when you take into account that the same protesters who are literally killing people for speaking Mandarin wave American and British flags, and that the main argument used by the localists is that HK's culture is different from the Mainland's... because it was colonised by the British! (what a weird ethnogenic theory!).

What makes sense, however, is the decline of capitalism worldwide and of HK in particular in relation to socialism (i.e. Mainland China). The Umbrella counter-revolution happened in 2013, if memory doesn't fail me, and now this 2019 protests follow and even greater degree of capitalist decline (post-2016). Besides, we have analogous manifestations in many declining capitalist societies (France, UK, USA, Germany, Hungary, Ukraine, Poland, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Bolivia, Uruguai) more or less at the same time -- including the revival of some nonsensical ethnogenetic causes, such as the Catalonian independence from Spain, or the Scotish independence. Why did they revived those corpses from the long-forgotten times precisely now? If the "cultural clash" hypothesis was true, then those conflicts should be continuous, since cultures don't simple disappear and reappear out of the blue.

HK is in terminal decline.

Posted by: vk | Nov 25 2019 18:29 utc | 98

Regarding the HK District Council elections... I read on RT that a local Councillor who is pro-Beijing told RT that from his purview the reason for the high percentage For the "pro-democracy" candidates was that a lot of the voters were from among the age group most responsible for the riots/violence/demos and this was their first time voting.

As for the continuing MSM propaganda on this whole (underhanded, NED funded, color revolution) business...on NPR's "Morning Edition" this a.m. one of the male presenters talked very cheerfully (of course) about how the high voter turn out for "democracy" made clear that all those who believed that many in the population were against the "pro-democracy" demonstrators and their "disorderly" behavior.

Now I don't think you could get much more Newspeak than that: For NPR (and presumably many in its audience) beating people up in the airport and shopping malls, setting fire to a man who disagreed with the "demonstrators", throwing petrol bombs, bricks and firing arrows at the police and those people trying to clear the roadways, not to mention shutting down subways, destroying property, such violent, amoral, vicious acts are merely "Disorderliness." Not what they really were.

One wonders, seriously, what words they would use to label like actions taken by American youth in, say, DC? Let alone how they would describe police reaction to it (restrained? violent?). Or British, French (oh wait, they don't even report on the Gilets Jaunes now and when they did they ascribed the violence of facemasked perps to the GJs; ad they definitely have never reported on the really existing literally bloody violence of the French police toward the GJs),German authorities when dealing with like violent actions?

Posted by: AnneR | Nov 25 2019 18:39 utc | 99

@89 dh... i have only been to hongcouver.... that is what it is called here on the bestcoast of canada, lol...i continue to see it more like vk here.. i think hk is past the sweet spot and no amount of dumbocracy is going to cure it or its woes.. and it is going to get assimilated into greater china.. writing has been on the wall since the handover to china in 97... now, there is nothing to stop disenfranchised hong kong people from complaining about it, or from the usa-cia to continue to foster unrest.. it doesn't really change the present set up here.. hk is competing more fully in a situation it was given preferential treatment on up until 97.. now that it is gone, a few folks in hk are waking up to smell the coffee.. such is life... if they want to believe dumbocracy as exported by the usa is going to save them, they are a lot more ignorant then i realized..

Posted by: james | Nov 25 2019 18:39 utc | 100

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