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November 03, 2019

The MoA Week In Review - Open Thread 2019-64

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama were fewer than usual as your host was a bit under the weather.

This from WaPo is ridiculous:

> [Lt.Col. Vindman] told lawmakers that he was deeply troubled by what he interpreted as an attempt by the president to subvert U.S. foreign policy and an improper attempt to coerce a foreign government into investigating a U.S. citizen. <

That the WaPo scribe lets it stand without pointing out that, constitutionally, the president sets foreign policies is even worse. An earlier NYT piece about an NSC staffer who Trump likes and had asked about the Ukraine had a similar bad formulation:

> Any involvement by Mr. Patel in Ukraine issues would signal another attempt by Mr. Trump’s political loyalists to go around American policymakers to shape policy toward Kiev. <

Other issues:

A good overview of how the conflict in Syria developed:
Russia Isn't Getting the Recognition It Deserves on Syria - Scott Ritter, Truthdig
US Needs To Occupy Syria Because Of Kurds Or Iran Or Chemical Weapons Or Oil Or Whatever - Caitlin Johnstone

Former U.S. supplied proxy forces kill other former U.S. supplied proxy forces with U.S. supplied weapons (video):

Cᴀʟɪʙʀᴇ Oʙsᴄᴜʀᴀ @CalibreObscura - 8:24 PM · Nov 2, 2019
TFSA hitting a YPG/SDF vehicle (Humvee?) with a likely originally US-supplied BGM-71 TOW ATGM.
video

Russiagate: Growing Indicators of Brennan's CIA Trump Task Force - Larry Johnson, SST
Ukrainegate: Some interesting backstories on John Brennan in this Kiriakou and Matt Taibbi talk. Kiriakou thinks that the 'whistleblower complaint' is a part of the CIA plot against Trump:
CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou on Impeachment, "Assets," and the Espionage Act | Useful Idiots (vid)

Last week Germany won an important battle against the U.S.:
Denmark grants permit for construction of Nord Stream 2 pipeline in its waters - Tass
Europe’s gas alliance with Russia is a match made in heaven - M. K. BHADRAKUMAR, Indian Punchline

Use as open thread ...

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Bemildred...thanks for that heads up about the US 'BRI'...LOL

That's pretty funny that the US is going to build 'infrastructure' overseas...considering the US' own infrastructure looks like the third world compared to China...

China has used more concrete in three years than the US has in the entire 20'th century...

And btw...I love that stuff about the magical 'private sector'...yeah, we all know that formula works real well...proven every time...from 'health care' to prisons, to the armaments industry...

Posted by: flankerbandit | Nov 5 2019 11:28 utc | 201

Peter @199: "In a family atmosphere you don't openly challenge and argue,"

Isn't that what we try to do here and elsewhere on the web. Behave so we can talk? And all these people trying to interrupt or distract or maybe just shut it all down. So afraid of letting people talk.

Anyway, I sympathize with Mr. Sapoaga.

uncle tungsten: They just keep piling the big words up. Meaning is not important, feelings are. That snip I posted there basically says "we're going to all be rich" A con game with five pound words.

flankerbandit: The OPIC thing goes back to 1971 (it says) and basically seems to be a PR operation, not actually trying to do anything. I thought Blue Dot was an internet company or something, food by drone. But now I look there are lots of Blue Dot things on the internets.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 5 2019 13:52 utc | 202

In the context of petro and carbon some may wish to consider the Malthusian implications of Jevons examination of coal usage - which, he observed, counter-intuitively increases as the machines using coal increase in efficiency (presumably thermal e).

Jevons seem to apply to the entire spectrum of stuff what ya need to make industrialism work, not simply coal or petro.

I see that posters tend to avoid the elephant. Elephant?

Die-off is his name.

After dieoff arrives there may be new opportunities.

Maybe for people, maybe for roaches...

Whatever, there'll be no shortages, for some period.

Read about Jevons and think about the implications.

Posted by: Walter | Nov 5 2019 14:12 utc | 203

"Latest News: Even though Vladimir Putin has promised to withdraw all Russian troops from the US, Russian forces still does not want to leave the US completely, arguing that it wants to secure oil fields in Texas from ISIS supported by Canada and Mexico, while helping Indians and Indian Democratic Forces (IDF) who did not want to rejoin the US government and refused an offer to dissolve the IDF and join the US army. Although initially Russian troops stopped their support for the IDF.
Wait, there seems to be something wrong with this news! :)"

Posted by: james | Nov 3 2019 18:54 utc | 33

Ha ha ha! Nice one James!

Posted by: BM | Nov 5 2019 14:43 utc | 204

@148 Karlof1 re: slander of Michael Mann

Michael Mann has some explaining to do.

b4real

Posted by: b4real | Nov 5 2019 14:49 utc | 205

Keeping with the Cosmological tone of my last comment there is todays comic from Scott Adams
https://dilbert.com/

Dilbert: They say 85% of the matter in the universe is dark matter, and we don't even know what that is.

Dogbert: Well, if it is the most abundant thing in the universe, it has to be made of stupidity.

Dilbert: Why wasn't that obvious to me?

Dogbert: Because you're 85% dark matter.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 5 2019 15:30 utc | 206

Bemildred thx for that link. Heh…!

On another, related front, now we all also have to get up to speed with the:

Fourth Industrial Revolution.

See World Economic Forum:

https://www.weforum.org/about/the-fourth-industrial-revolution-by-klaus-schwab

An article in Forbes:

https://bit.ly/2NIhlMN

Btw (imho) this is what Greta T. is all about. Speaking at the WEF, Davos, she says sharp things like Shame on you! and everyone claps! Of course she is a child (or presents as one, she will be 17 in 2 months) and has no authority so clapping is super. Pure propaganda, totally in your face.

All this is to give a last breath, scope 'n hope to extractive and rapacious capitalism, thru a ‘new energy’ paragdim.

Obviously the industries supporting (and lobbying with fervor) are against Oil cos. and FF in general. This links up with US AOC and T. Gabbard "zero carbon only renewable’ bills."

Posted by: Noirette | Nov 5 2019 15:32 utc | 207

@ Bemildred and others with the "private sector" investment BS

Thanks for that. As I continue to focus on, at the center of that that private sector is global private finance which all in the West are suppose to believe is doing God's work.

And the recent quote from Lagarde is just precious
"
"Isn’t it true that ultimately we have done the right thing to act in favor of jobs and of growth rather than the protection of savers?"
"

There is no Right/Left, only Top/Bottom. I wonder if the masses of the West will ever figure that out.

The Fed has been foaming the private bank runway since September to keep the market "growing" instead of recognizing reality.....such a circus.....too bad so many lives are at issue with the results

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 5 2019 15:44 utc | 208

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 5 2019 15:44 utc | 208

Yeah, I know about the "foaming the runway", but do not really understand the associated gobbledygook about RePos and such. I have long since concluded that the only thing propping us up is the fact nobody (well, nobody in a position to do so) really wants to kick the pegs out. Better to let us hit the foam so to speak.

Posted by: Bemildred | Nov 5 2019 15:59 utc | 209

I see that RT has presented the Epstein affair again, but with the addition that "they" knew for three years, etc etc, and had stuff on billy, pictures...misprision of a felony to my lawyer brain? Yup.

So, they had three years to set up the jail-suicide scene and find a reasonable facsimile from whom they made the corpse?

Sounds about right, considering how they squabble among themselves...

"‘We had Clinton, we had everything’: ABC’s ‘Epstein coverup’ exposed by ‘p***ed’ news anchor in Project Veritas leak "

Posted by: Walter | Nov 5 2019 16:30 utc | 210

@ Bemildred who wrote
"
Better to let us hit the foam so to speak.
"

The foam is for the private banks, not for you. The foam is created out of your savings as Lagarde alludes to in the sick quote: "Isn’t it true that ultimately we have done the right thing to act in favor of jobs and of growth rather than the protection of savers?"

The REPO, Reverse REPO, 2-week REPO and POMO are the acronyms around the Fed backstopping (on the public's nickel) the private banks that don't want to lend to each other any more because risk and liquidity issues.

But it is all legal..../snark

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 5 2019 17:06 utc | 211

I found two very interesting articles by Sundance here (health warning: right-wing site, keep your bullet-proof glasses on if attempting to read comments, and keep your coffee away from the keyboard):

Why John Brennan, Peter Strzok and DOJ Needed Julian Assange Arrested – And Why UK Officials Obliged

Interesting information here on the link between Strzok and the CIA/Brennan, who was directly using Strzok for the manipulation of the elections. Interesting implications also for the contradictory interests between Trump and the "small group" on what to do with Assange - I hope Trump prevails eventually for Julian's sake.


FISA Virus Maria Butina Released from Federal Prison for Immediate Deportation

The main point of the second link is that Butina was being used by Brennan and Strzok et al - covertly and without her knowledge - as an FBI/CIA asset to create fraudulent rationale for espionage against any politician and political supporter they chose, namely Republican ones and especially anyone linked to or supporting the Trump campaign.

Essentially Strzok was using Butina like a virus - inject any Clinton opposition with the deadly Butina-Virus, and then milk off the NSA surveillance of that person. Modus operandi is very simple:

Stage 1: Fabricate a bogus claim that Butina is a Russian spy - voila, without one iota of evidence necessary, she has the Midas Touch, or in this case any person she is introduced to or speaks to or has any contact with whatsoever is automatically eligible for unlimited surveillance. Such eligibility is BOGUS and 100% illegal because the basis for it (bogus foreign spy plus US-manipulated contact) is fraudulent.

Stage 2: Arrange for a romantic liason between Butina and Strzok-appointed FBI/CIA handler - politically well connected businessman Patrick Byrne. This was on direct orders from James Comey! Butina is then unwittingly a US FBI/CIA asset controlled by Byrne.

Stage 3: The handler (Byrne) introduces Butina to all sorts of political celebrities, making Butina think she is a well-connected star thanks to her "boyfriend" Byrne, but actually she is just the virus carrier - on every introduction, the celebrity introduced is immediately infected with unlimited NSA surveillance.

Stage 4: Sit back and milk the illegal NSA surveillance of every victim infected by the Butina-Virus. It is illegal because every single aspect of the "justification" is 100% bogus.

Stage 5: Illegally use Fusion GPS as contractors with direct access to raw (identities not masked) NSA surveillance to surveil every move and every communication of every virus-infected victim, and use the data to manipulate the 2016 elections in favour of Clinton - (ha! they STILL lost because their candidate Clinton was so incredibly toxic).

As a result, hundreds and hundreds of politically connected celebrities and politicians and their staff were targetted by the NSA with unlimited surveillance. The exponential increase in FISA-702 surveillance queries went off the charts from 1st November 2015 to 1st May 2016, resulting in the Inspector General noticing that an estimated 85% of queries were unauthorised and unmasked. [This would appear to me to mean 85% of the entirety of all NSA surveillance queries in the period in question, and the implication seems to be that about 85% of all NSA surveillance queries in that period were those targetted by Brenner/Strzok to manipulate the elections].

This period November to May was the exact same period during which the FBI was telling Byrne who they wanted him to introduce Butina to.

Aside: officially the IG noticed there were too many unauthorised queries, and did a statistical check of all NSA queries and the associated search terms in the "sample period" November to May to check more closely; realistically, more probably it was noticed that specifically Republican politicians and their connections were being targetted, and the "sample" was devised as a means to put a stop to it while covering up the fact that the initial observation of the Republican targetting may also have been illegal, and they did not want to disclose how they discovered the targetting.

Byrne allegedly became suspicious of FBI intentions because the so-called "Russian spy" would become privy to too much internal political information, and Strzok replied that that was exactly what the FBI wanted. To make sure Byrne continued to comply, Strzok then in February 2018 arranged a fraudulent SEC investigation of Byrne's company - this SEC "investigation" being under the control of Strzok's wife Melissa Hodgman! - and hinted the investigation could be called off as long as Byrne kept quiet.

The main weakness in Sundance's article is that he ridiculously buys into the argument that Butina was an "unsavoury character" and "connected with Russian oligarchs" and all that rubbish, and fails to point out that Butina was an innocent Russian citizen unwittingly used as a _US_ intelligence asset. If Butina was really a Russian agent who needed to be monitored, why would US intelligence agencies take so much trouble to introduce her to all the top US political personalities? Ergo, they knew for certain that she was innocent. Similar anti-Russian hubris-related distortions in the first link also (Veselnitskaya, Magnitsky, Karapetyan, Butina etc), and an inappropriate link to a 100% fake news from Daily Beast.

Posted by: BM | Nov 5 2019 17:09 utc | 212

As I've said several times before, I think the Trump administration is lining up a pretty good fireworks display based on the Barr/Durham investigation, designed to give good and appropriately timed "entertainment" in the run up to the 2020 elections. Unfortunately, I remain to be really convinced that significant indictments and eventual convictions will be made - for that we shall have to wait and see - but plenty of compelling fireworks to force the media to alter couse (or otherwise put, artillery fire on the media).

It will be a perfect opportunity to get a few hundred really serious criminals behind bars, but unfortunately Barr seems to be established Deep State, so we shall have to see whether the the fireworks amount to any more than just that.

Posted by: BM | Nov 5 2019 17:22 utc | 213

@ Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 5 2019 6:14 utc | 194

Thanks! That site is actually my web browser home page :) By now there are many observations not concordant with standard dark matter models -- this is partly why there are numerous models to begin with. Some of them are kind of subtle and I'm not sure I understand the distinctions myself (I am a credentialed astrobiologist but my actual expertise is in paleobiology and planetary science, not astrophysics), but I think most people can wrap their heads around the challenges that galaxies that show no apparent dark matter at all or galaxies that should fly apart even with all the fudge factors applied pose to the accepted models. MOND does not appear to be the whole story in and of itself but works wonderfully well at certain scales, and more importantly has revealed how theory and observation could be reconciled by applying slight corrections to classical dynamics under a unique domain (again, like relativity) rather than claiming the vast majority of the matter and energy in the universe is something we can't detect or perceive in any way but must exist because our models don't work otherwise... where's a razor when you need one? But MOND seems to get surprisingly little traction among the mainstream astro crowd.

Posted by: AshenLight | Nov 5 2019 17:32 utc | 214

Huthis not included in the deal or in the gov
https://www.ispionline.it/it/pubblicazione/yemen-southern-secessionists-enter-state-24325

Posted by: Mina | Nov 5 2019 17:55 utc | 215

Walter @210

ABC Anchor Admits ... Epstein Coverup

LOL.

Turns out to be nothing more than an Epstein is dead! message (at 4:42):

So, do I think he was killed ... a hundred percent.

When she says this, her facial expression becomes one of amusement and she puckers her lips as though to prevent outright laughter. Then she goes on to defend her point of view, repeating things that everybody with any interest in Epstein already knows ("there were a lotta men in those planes, a lotta powerful men ..."). There's no need to say such a thing to remind a network professional of this - but it's very useful for underscoring the message that "Epstein is dead! to a wider audience.

She says NOTHING, in this supposedly candid, off-air video about the questions raised about a possible extraction. Nor does she question why the government hasn't brought charges against Epstein's associates. She merely says that Gishlaine Maxwell should be careful - which reinforces the very same Epstein is dead! message.

<> <> <> <> <> <>

Sure it's embarrassing to ABC (they'll survive) but the CIA/establishment would rather that you hate on ABC than question if CIA/Mossad extracted Epstein.

This "expose" comes a few days after Whitney Webb said that she now suspects that Epstein was extracted.

!!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 5 2019 18:41 utc | 216

I'm currently reading "The Gun" by C.J. Chivers, about the AK47. The author goes on at some length about the refusal of American weapons designers to learn anything from the success of the AK47. Once a set of people become wedded to a certain idea, it's hard to change their minds. American weapons designers had an NIH (not invented here) mentality.

Perhaps this explains the refusal to consider MOND.

Posted by: lysias | Nov 5 2019 18:48 utc | 217

@ AshenLight | Nov 5 2019 17:32 utc | 214 with the response to my APOD link and MOND/dark matter discussion

Given your expertise, why is there not more focus on trying to understand everything that is not matter within our world? It has always baffled me that at least studying it in our world does not depend on analyzing light from distant parts of the Cosmos. Do scientists really believe there is no dark matter/energy within our planet or galaxy?

Thanks for sharing

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 5 2019 19:05 utc | 218

@ 212 bm.. butina was definitely a pawn in the cia-fbis hands.. that they can use someone innocent like that and get away with it speaks to the level of justice and democracy in the usa - non existent essentially... if there is a hell, these people responsible for this will definitely be going their.. they act as though they are already their..

Posted by: james | Nov 5 2019 19:17 utc | 219

Late the thread again..

@flankerbandit, txs for the Syrian map and comments, I agree with your assessment.
Allah Syria Bashar.

Posted by: Lozion | Nov 5 2019 19:56 utc | 220

Ref Epstein, did Kubrick want to make an allusion to his activities in his Eyes Wide Shut? Plus S. Pollack does look like one of the famous protagonist of the scandal, no?

Posted by: Mina | Nov 5 2019 20:00 utc | 221

@ Jackrabbit | Nov 5 2019 18:41 utc | 216

Perhaps you missed my point. Which was/is that this means they had at least 3 years to set the theater scene up, find ringers to pick from ad hoc, set the scene in MCC and presto!

Magic show 101

not funny tho

Posted by: Walter | Nov 5 2019 20:14 utc | 222

@ Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 5 2019 19:05 utc | 218

There are definitely people conducting terrestrial experiments looking for dark matter, but thus far everything has come back negative. I suppose if you want to publish about dark matter, it's much easier to go directly to examining galaxies, where you get to presuppose its existence, than to demonstrate it ;)

Posted by: AshenLight | Nov 5 2019 20:25 utc | 223

@221 Sure looks like it..

Posted by: Lozion | Nov 5 2019 20:44 utc | 224

@221 Follow up: You mean Victor Zeigler = Alan Dershowitz?

Posted by: Lozion | Nov 5 2019 20:51 utc | 225

Today's Washington Post has an article on the current difficulties of determining Hubble's Constant.

Posted by: lysias | Nov 5 2019 21:05 utc | 226

Trumps pullout of Syria has turned into a repositioning of US forces on the Syrian oilfields.

https://apnews.com/251062e322ab4bba99251fe59c90540a
"The decision, coming after a meeting Friday between Trump and his defense leaders, locks hundreds of U.S. troops into a more complicated presence in Syria, despite the president’s vow to get America out of the war. Under the new plan, troops would protect a large swath of land controlled by Syrian Kurdish fighters that stretches nearly 90 miles (150 kilometers) from Deir el-Zour to al-Hassakeh, but its exact size is still being determined."

And this.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/468824-ira
"Iran marked the 40th anniversary of the seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran on Monday with an announcement that the country is now in specific violation of the 2015 nuclear agreement signed by the U.S. and several European nations."

If this is the case then Trump will use the snapback provisions in the nuke deal to reintroduce UNSC sanctions on Iran.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Nov 5 2019 21:17 utc | 227

b4real #205

Mann should have known that defamation law suits are a double edged sword. Discovery is a mighty powerful process. This is an important victory for the requirement for full discovery in legal process and there is little to zero scope for bargaining. The Flynn case has arrived at the same point via different paths.

Mann's refusal to provide the data will really damage his credibility among his peers. It may not change the debate that much though.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 5 2019 21:30 utc | 228

@uncle tungsten | Nov 5 2019 21:30 utc | 228

Government does not care about people dying, if they did, they wouldn't spend so much money blowing em up around the world. When the government displays concern about individual welfare, hold on to your wallet and back slowly away.

The thing about Manns' hockey stick graph is that I bet a whole bunch of the warming theories presented have used his numbers in their foundation, just cuz they were accepted; but the numbers have not been publicly crunched.

b4real

Posted by: b4real | Nov 5 2019 22:38 utc | 229

The diamond in the dust for me from this week in review was the exquisite images linked by psychohistorian #194.

Deeply grateful to the MOND discussion by lysias, AshenLight and psychohistorian for that revelation. To be where consciousness, knowledge and skill conjunct at the window to the universe is a mighty fine point of reference.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 5 2019 23:34 utc | 230

Below are two links to posting at Xinhuanet that I think MoA barflys will find educational....still can't make HTML links at MoA....sigh

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-11/05/c_138530849.htm
Xi proposes "humanity first," reaffirms China's opening-up commitment at second China International Import Expo (CIIE) in Shanghai

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-11/05/c_138531074.htm
CPC decision on system, governance released

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 6 2019 6:00 utc | 231

Eurozone in de facto stagnation:

Eurozone">https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2019/nov/06/german-factory-orders-softbank-loss-marks-and-spencer-business-live?page=with:block-5dc28e468f08be4a102e3d4a#block-5dc28e468f08be4a102e3d4a">Eurozone economy near stagnation as factories struggle: The eurozone economy continues to be dragged back by manufacturing gloom.

With my previous post, which informed the people here that Germany was in virtual recession, it was only a matter of time before the entire EZ went down with it. This is confirmed now.

Westerners complain about Erdogan being an "Ottoman", i.e. a man who wants to revive the Ottoman Empire. Well, what about the EU, which is essentially a German project to revive the Carolingian Empire?

-//--

SoftBank suffers huge losses after WeWork and Uber disappointment

We've talked about it in the post about selfdriving cars, which expanded to Uber.

Uber is a failed concept for the long term economy because: 1) it doesn't promote the development of the productive forces (best case scenario, it props up car sales) and 2) it is not a patented concept, so Uber doesn't have monopoly.

In car-friendly countries, Uber initially promotes some growth because it optimizes the use of an already existing infrastructure (i.e. the fact that everybody has a car and a smartphone) and absorbs a significant mass of unemployed (specially desperate adult men). But this has a clear limit, over which only new investment can overcome. This investment, we know, won't come, because the magic of Uber is that it profits over other people's investments, so its capital costs are nearly zero over the scale it operates.

Posted by: vk | Nov 6 2019 11:27 utc | 232

Ellen Brown digs into the repo problem.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/is-the-run-on-the-dollar-due-to-panic-or-greed/

She basically gets it right - the private banks are using public funds to enrich themselves rather than these funds being used for the public purpose

""Henry attributed it to regulatory changes that increased the bank’s required reserves, but according to the Martens, something more was involved. “The shocking news,” they write, is that “[a]ccording to its SEC filings, JPMorgan Chase is partly using [f]ederally insured deposits made by moms and pops across the country in its more than 5,000 branches to prop up its share price with buybacks.” Small businesses are being deprived of affordable loans because the liquidity necessary to back the loans is being used to prop up bank stock prices. Bank shares constitute a substantial portion of the pay of bank executives.

The whole repo rigmarole underscores the sleight of hand on which our money and banking systems are built, and why it is time to change them. Banks do not really have the money they lend. To back their loans, they rely on their ability to borrow from the reserves of other banks, generated from their customers’ deposits. If those banks withhold their deposits in the insatiable pursuit of higher profits, the borrowing banks must turn to the public purse for liquidity. The banks could not function without public support. They should be turned into public utilities, mandated to serve the interests of the people and the productive economy on which the public depends.""
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J.D. Alt would agree and argues for some better use of these public funds

http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2019/10/the-peoples-money-part-1.html

""life-defining dilemmas America now confronts: (1) climate change (2) healthcare (3) student debt (4) early child-hood care and development (5) affordable housing""

Posted by: financial matters | Nov 6 2019 12:01 utc | 233

lol b4real, try being for real. mann's hockey stick graph has been replicated over and over and over again. you can easily check that that's the case. how do you benefit from repeating fossil fuel company propaganda about the science?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 6 2019 12:54 utc | 234

Walter would appreciate cogent criticism of the alleged facts and proffered logic @ (or in) article title> "World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency"

Copy? ...academic[dot]oup[dot]com and whatever. also in pdf

I have pointed out in the past that real processes are typically colonized to benefit the PE. It ought to be predictably obvious that the truth of one part is not undone by lies pasted on.

Conman///Hey, your house is on fire!
Mark Help!
Conman "Sign here" (offers a pen)

...............

above someone wrote "slight of hand" - that's the form...the old army game, 3 card monte,,ponzis, all the wonderful routines.

Posted by: Walter | Nov 6 2019 12:57 utc | 235

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/shared/research/MANNETAL98/

the house is on fire. the lawsuit had nothing to do with the merits of the science. apparently the court didn't reach the merits of the case at all. the evidence has been available for years. does anybody have a link to the actual court order?

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 6 2019 13:08 utc | 236

that is the dismissal of the lawsuit had nothing to do with the merits of the science. since scientists have had access to the data behind the hockey stick graph for years, no it won't affect dr. mann's reputation. this is just standard industry propaganda, once again dodging the real scientific issues to cast fear, uncertainty and doubt.

https://www.bccourts.ca/jdb-txt/sc/19/15/2019BCSC1580.htm

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 6 2019 13:17 utc | 237

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/02/judge-finds-written-attack-on-climate-scientist-too-ludicrous-to-be-libel/

heh. the outlet which originally published the article ball was being sued for settled and apologised for mann.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 6 2019 13:33 utc | 238

About TGM (That Good Man) Jeffery...since ABC knew and have(?) had pictures, when do the executives get indicted for misprision of a felony?

Where's the Grand Jury and the famous aggressive prosecution of pederasts and those who conspire to and do conceal the evidence?

Right.

Posted by: Walter | Nov 6 2019 13:54 utc | 239

Solar of Interest?

Yeah.

see> "Energy &Environmental Science" Volume 10 Number 3 March 2017 Pages 645–834 (Exploring the potential of a hybrid device combining solar water heating and molecularsolar thermal energy storage )

article of interest in re solar heat storage and release via cat, the low potential seems to imply that extraction of PV would be poor, but still the IR would be nice. And I could be wrong...sometime Delta doesn't turn out to match hunches.

Posted by: Walter | Nov 6 2019 14:18 utc | 240

drive.

google.

com/file/d/1-GFduzHVWVneEScW9cV2RP9FJoCGQV23/view

TGM Jeff's LBB (little black book)

Not to be left for long? Not if it's valid.


Get your copy?

Posted by: Walter | Nov 6 2019 14:44 utc | 241

So this is the week that Tulsi joins up against Saudi Arabia on 9/11? Is there a connection to the hit they will take? What if she was asked to go on record as against their ever receiving nuclear power. What if she was asked if, knowing what she now knows, would she deploy again? Would she then encourage others not to join military since it is an illegal war?
How far does her allegiance to CFR extend, since Pelosi’s husband ruand it and Pelosi raised so much early funding for Obama?

Posted by: Not complicit | Nov 6 2019 15:31 utc | 242

OT? Yeah...about the airplanes "Boeing's poor information security posture threatens passenger safety, national security, researcher says"

@ CSO

LBB is interesting.


Posted by: Walter | Nov 6 2019 15:38 utc | 243

According to the Reuters posting below, the Houthi's have gone on the offfensive again

"
DUBAI (Reuters) - Yemen’s Houthi movement fired missiles and drones at the Red Sea port city of al-Mokha on Wednesday, causing deaths and injuries, according to forces in the anti-Houthi military coalition said.

There was no immediate confirmation of the rare attack on a coalition naval base from Houthi-run media or the spokesman for the Saudi-led Sunni Muslim alliance that has been battling the Iran-aligned movement in Yemen for more than four years.

Once a thriving coffee-exporting hub, al-Mokha had, along with nearby al-Khokha, served as military bases for the United Arab Emirates until they withdrew earlier this year as part of a phased drawdown of the Emirati presence in Yemen. Saudi-led forces took control of the ports in July.

“The Houthi militia backed by Iran...(used) ballistic missiles and exploding drones. Most of them were intercepted and some fell on residential areas, a displaced persons camp and a health center run by Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF),” the pro-coalition joint military command of the western coast said in a statement, without mentioning whether military targets had been hit.

Military sources and the statement said several people were killed. Three residents told Reuters by telephone that 10 people had been killed, including civilians, and that a fire broke out at military warehouses located near a hospital in the port.
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 6 2019 20:38 utc | 244

b4real #229

The hockey stick graph is generated by the data. The data points are within the graph. The data points are derived from cited sources within the paper aren't they?

Come on read the paper that produced the original graph. If you can't find that there then his paper could not have been successfully peer reviewed and the journal that originally published it would have withdrawn it.

You tell us what you mean. What data did Mann NOT provide that wrecked his case. Be specific. Do the research.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Nov 6 2019 23:01 utc | 245

Below is a link from The Register about the US NSA wanting reauthorization of its spying programs that they refuse to justify

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/06/nsa_spy_programs/

The posting title
NSA to Congress: Our spy programs don’t work, aren’t used, or have gone wrong – now can you permanently reauthorize them?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 7 2019 3:29 utc | 246

Below is a link to a story describing the incestuous relationship between the New York branch of the Fed and JP Morgan that should be required reading for all.

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019/11/dangerous-liaisons-new-york-fed-and-jpmorgans-incestuous-relationship/

If you think US Congress Critters are corrupt, this link will show you that they are saints when compared to the private banking system

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 7 2019 5:55 utc | 247

Showcasing changing attitudes, "If North Korea and Japan went to war, more South Koreans would back Kim Jong Un, poll shows:"

"'Under a rather extreme hypothetical situation in which war may break out between North Korea and Japan, 45.5 percent would choose to help North Korea, and 15.1 percent Japan,' the survey, which was obtained by Newsweek, showed. '39.4 percent respond that they have no idea.'"

Yes, that's from a current article linked from the above link. IMO, that bodes well for Koreans and the region.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 7 2019 6:24 utc | 248

psychohistorian @ 247 thanks for this.  Pam and Russ Martens do great work

from a companion article

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019/11/the-feds-wall-street-bailout-may-go-into-overdrive-in-december/

""All of this raises the reasonable question as to whether Wall Street stock prices are driving central bank monetary policy. If that is the case, and it clearly seems to be, there is not only systemic risk in the safety and soundness of U.S. banks but systemic risk in the level of debt that the Federal Reserve is prepared to take on to bail out Wall Street – for the second time in a decade. Ultimately, the U.S. taxpayer is on the hook for all debts owed by both the Federal government and the Federal Reserve.""

Another way to look at this is that the enormous amount of public money spent to support stock prices could be used for single payer, retirement security, education etc..

Posted by: financial matters | Nov 7 2019 11:50 utc | 249

fyi all, another method to reduce url

use tinyurl and, since the prefix is a constant, clip it off, like this

The url in 249 comes as https://tinyurl.com/y5bprj2s

and may be shortened further to > /5bprj2s

This may help in some circumstances.

engineer I met at a funeral, whose opinion is expert, opined that in email such a tactic would tend to obfuscate the googloid spynet, I don't trust the guy and that was then...but it's a nice trick if both A and B understand the key.


/yx8n3jwx

Posted by: Walter | Nov 7 2019 12:49 utc | 250

psycho @246

Thanks.

Imagine if news like this were broadcast like Russiagate and Ukrainegate are...

... and if democracy were discussed as something precious like gender identity.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 7 2019 13:21 utc | 251

@234 pretzelattack @245 uncletungsten @anybody else I missed

From the link

"Mann’s case was dismissed because he didn’t comply with the rules of discovery – he failed to release the hidden r2 regression numbers demanded by Tim."

"Dr Ball asserts that the hidden r2 numbers (Mann’s ‘working out’) would prove whether Mann deliberately or accidentally rigged his method."

"While it is true other independent analysts have replicated Mann’s graph (because there is just sufficient of his data in the public domain to do so) those hidden r2 numbers (Mann’s ‘working out’) would prove conclusively if he created his graph with criminal intent."

I'm not going to get into a debate and kick off a whole nuther global warming debate, people are gonna believe what they want. If you can provide the r2 regression numbers which Mann did not, please do. If you can explain why there have been higher temperatures throughout history, before industrialization, please do.

I'm also not about to invest a whole lot of my time studying global warming because the science is not there. What is there, is a government that would just love to tell me I can only use 4cf gas to heat my home and anything over 4cf is going to cost me double with the extra going into a fund to combat a fictitious global warming.

Please feel free to respond with facts and not the derision. Your saying its so doesn't make it so.


b4real

Posted by: b4real | Nov 7 2019 17:26 utc | 252

Below is a link from Ellen Brown's web site about the US Fed backstopping the private banking system with public money....before the crash, unlike 2008 where they put out $21 trillion after the crash

https://ellenbrown.com/2019/11/07/is-the-run-on-the-dollar-due-to-panic-or-greed/

As I mentioned in a comment there, Ellen does not include the recent Fed POMO program that is "permanently" buying $60 billion of private bank dreck a month on the public nickel.

This is what is happening to the world while everyone focuses on Russiagate, Biden Ukrainegate, Trump impeachment and "climate change"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 7 2019 18:03 utc | 253

Warren has exposed her Obamaness in her apologia to Bill Gates:

"Progressives found Warren's tone to be too friendly to Gates and politically problematic as it missed the power dynamics in play with Gates' wealth.

"'You can't logic Gates out of his class interest,' tweeted lawyer and activist Emma Caterine. 'This is about power. We need a president who tells the billionaires to suck it up, not one who tries to win them over.'"

Warren already has a front stage/back stage problem just like Clinton's saying one thing at rallies and another behind closed doors. IMO, she'll be the candidate okayed by the DNC as she's very much akin to the younger Hillary before she outed herself as a warmonger.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 7 2019 20:54 utc | 254

Evidently my comment at Ellen Brown's web site that I mentioned in comment #253 did not make the cut.

In her book, Banking on the People, Ellen writes that a government buying its own "Treasuries" is a good thing as it retires the debt....and I agree BUT; Unfortunately this is only true if that government has a public banking system and is not "foaming the runway" on the backs of the public for the private banking system in doing so.

I am a bit surprised that Ellen Brown is not understanding this reality of our current world and deleted my comment.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 7 2019 20:59 utc | 255

Now my comment is showing at Ellen Brown's web site.

I am conflicted about what is going on and impatient. I just watched the 1987 interview with Trump by Larry King that Peter AU1 has provided a link to in various threads and had to stop after 5 or so minutes because Trump talks out of every side of his mouth and while some of it is true, it is mostly self serving, IMO.

He is right that the US has been paying for protection of the oil transport business for decades. In the past that was an easy sell because Americans were living high on the hog compared to other nations but what is the selling point now?

He says he wants to be nationalistic but he has holdings and developments all over the world and hires the cheapest labor he can find for his businesses and mistreats his employees.

America is not being rebuilt under Trump. Where are the infrastructure projects for bridges, transportation alternatives, etc.? The ongoing gutting of the US is a world leveling of resource consumption event, way over due, and cost of living inflation/wage deflation that is not over. It is made worse because the top/bottom adjustment of income has not occurred at the top, only driving the middle class down while privatizing everything and compromising what social safety net the US had which was/is worse than Europe, relatively speaking.....look at the cost/outcomes of health care world wide....

I can only conjecture that Trump is a tool being used to bring the US economy, consumption and cost of living/income down to the level of the rest of the world while keeping the financialization structure the same.

Since Nixon took the Reserve Currency US off the gold standard in 1971 and replaced it with oil, there has been a drive to gain and maintain control over all the oil resources which have continued to be identified and developed.....and Trump has continually talked about how the US should take the oil from other nations.....like Iran which is also a target because they are not a colony of global private finance. Again, in the past that was an easy sell because Americans were living high on the hog compared to other nations but what is the selling point now?

I don't see Trump as a savior of the American public but only as another in a line of puppets in the ongoing service of private finance empire looking to maintain its grip on the world economies. I can only hope that Americans and other Western nation's citizens wake up to the sickness of having the jackboot of global private finance control the lifeblood of human economic interchange.

/end rant

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 8 2019 1:51 utc | 256

psychohistorian @256: ranting

Trump is not a plant, he's just a relentless self-promoter and social climber.

His internal make-up was formed by his father. He then learned from master manipulator Roy Cohn. And that naturally led him to the Clintons - the kind of powerful insiders that he craved to be himself.

His set-backs and close calls with bankruptcy intensified his paranoid and desperate need to advance his interests, secure his station, and WIN at all costs. We are all the foil as he tries to fill his emotional void with "winning".

He's President because he's pliable - willing to be bought by people who are smarter and more powerful. The US needed a sober, inclusive President after Bush-era abuses of power; and a nationalist showman/distracter after Obama's deceptiveness and the Deep State's failure to prevent a Russia-China Alliance.

Should we be comforted that there seems to be a rationality behind who our Presidents are and the attempt made to address problems (as perceived by the Deep State)? Or should we be worried by their continuing to pursue their NWO dreams?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 8 2019 4:40 utc | 257

@ Jackrabbit who wrote
"
Or should we be worried by their continuing to pursue their NWO dreams?
"

I am worried that they are poor losers and willing to end the human experiment instead of accepting their loss gracefully......and I didn't make any kids to have to explain that to but still have a sentimental attachment to our species.....

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 8 2019 5:52 utc | 258

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