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November 23, 2019

News? A Russian Operation, U.S. Intelligence Says

The CIA, and its stenographers at the New York Times, explain to us that the three news pieces below were the result of a Russian operation.

Financial Times, August 28 2016
Ukraine's leaders campaign against 'pro-Putin' Trump

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Yahoo, October 24 2016
16 people who shaped the 2016 election: Alexandra Chalupa



Politico, January 11 2017
Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire


We now learn that the facts about Ukrainian meddling, which those three pieces describe, must be false. They were part of a 'Russian operation'.


Charges of Ukrainian Meddling? A Russian Operation, U.S. Intelligence Says

Fiona Hill, a respected Russia scholar and former senior White House official, added a harsh critique during testimony on Thursday. She told some of Mr. Trump’s fiercest defenders in Congress that they were repeating “a fictional narrative.” She said that it likely came from a disinformation campaign by Russian security services, which also propagated it.

In a briefing that closely aligned with Dr. Hill’s testimony, American intelligence officials informed senators and their aides in recent weeks that Russia had engaged in a yearslong campaign to essentially frame Ukraine as responsible for Moscow’s own hacking of the 2016 election, according to three American officials. The briefing came as Republicans stepped up their defenses of Mr. Trump in the Ukraine affair.
The revelations demonstrate Russia’s persistence in trying to sow discord among its adversaries — and show that the Kremlin apparently succeeded, as unfounded claims about Ukrainian interference seeped into Republican talking points.

So there was no Ukrainian meddling, no Ukrainian interference. Claims thereof are unfounded!

But just a few sentences later the piece curiously says something different:

The accusations of a Ukrainian influence campaign center on actions by a handful of Ukrainians who openly criticized or sought to damage Mr. Trump’s candidacy in 2016.

Just keep in mind that those claims are unfounded.

The 'handful' of Ukrainians managed, with help from the Democratic National Council, to push Trump's campaign manager to resign. They even bragged about it. Ukrainians were also the biggest foreign donors to Hillary Clinton's foundation.

However, because Putin once pointed that out, those claims must be unfounded. They must be Russian disinformation:

During a news conference in February 2017, Mr. Putin accused the Ukrainian government of supporting Hillary Clinton during the previous American election and funding her candidacy with friendly oligarchs.

It is not clear when American intelligence agencies learned about Moscow’s campaign or when precisely it began.
One target was the leak of a secret ledger disclosed by a Ukrainian law enforcement agency that appeared to show that Paul Manafort, Mr. Trump’s onetime campaign chairman, had taken illicit payments from Ukrainian politicians who were close to Moscow. He was forced to step down from the Trump campaign after the ledger became public in August 2016, and the Russians have since been eager to cast doubt on its authenticity, the former official said.

Those are "unfounded claims about Ukrainian interference". Because Putin pointed them out.

However, let me assure you that neither the Times nor the CIA would ever make unfounded claims of a Russian operation.

It is Russia that is trying 'to sow discord'. It is not an unfounded Democratic impeachment inquiry that does that.

Posted by b on November 23, 2019 at 18:08 UTC | Permalink

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@Circe 76

Dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back over your own comments?
Your continuous vapid ranting invokes the image of a rabid teeth gnashing dog hammering away at the keyboard while slinging spittle on the monitor.
Though you do often make some valid points, your self-aggrandizing "I am right and everyone else misses the point" writing style casts a pall over anything inciteful in your posts.
Have a glass of wine and take a deep breath.

Posted by: Fractional Ownership | Nov 29 2019 13:49 utc | 101

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