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The MoA Week In Review - OT 2019-58

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

Related:
Elite UK military unit secretly trained by leftist regime-change advocate Gilbert Achcar and other academics - Ben Norton, Grayzone

Related:
Impeachment, Brought to You by the CIA - Rob Urie, Counterpunch

Giovanni Cavalcanti @giovannicavett - 23:55 UTC · Oct 4, 2019
Joe Biden loses his cool when confronted by a reporter asking whether there was ‘conflict of interest’ regarding his son's Ukraine/China business scandal. video

The Hunter Biden story is a troubling tale of privilege - Washington Post:

Less privileged Americans can’t be faulted if they wonder why their addicted loved ones are on the streets or in the morgue while the vice president’s son is blessed with diamonds and sinecures. Multitudes locked up for years under Joe Biden’s crime bill might ask why the author’s son traveled the world scot-free. And sober working people making $50,000 a year may be skeptical of a system in which a vice president’s addicted son reportedly collected that sum every month.

Related:
America now solves problems with troops, not diplomats - The Conservation

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Lost Weapons @LostWeapons - 9:53 UTC · Oct 6, 2019
multiple videos of protesters being shot by snipers pic.twitter.com/gNJ9Hosljm

Other issues:

Former Israeli Intel Official Claims Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell Worked for Israeli Intel - Whitney Webb, UNZ
Jeffrey Epstein Raked In $200 Million After Legal and Financial Crises - New York Times

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WikiLeaks: Clinton, Obama, Soros Overthrew Pope Benedict In Vatican Coup

https://gloria.tv/article/DbyFpcQKRK7i4jp3sei1peUS8

comment?

Posted by: az | Oct 6 2019 13:06 utc | 1

Posted by: az | Oct 6 2019 13:06 utc | 1

Clinton supporting a leftist? Obvious bullshit from disaffected supporters of the profoundly corrupt and immoral Benedict. Clinton is about just about as far from the left as they come.

What is more plausible would be that a US coup against Benedict blew up in their faces and ended up with the wrong man. Pope Francis was most definitely not desired by Obama, Clinton, Soros, or the US Deep State.

Still more likely, perhaps, is that these protests are part of a US plot against Pope Francis, possibly to try to undo the miscarriage of their efforts to manipulate the selection of the current incumbent.

Posted by: BM | Oct 6 2019 14:13 utc | 2

One wonders how John Paul II became Pope after the suspicious death of John Paul I. How did essentially the same conclave that had elected John Paul I then a couple of months later elect the hard line Cold Warrior Wojtyla? Was the NSA monitoring those conclaves?

Posted by: lysias | Oct 6 2019 14:21 utc | 3

“EACH MAN KILLS THE BLOG HE LOVES”
13
OCT
2012


I think the technical term you want is “internet psychosis.”

I, on the other hand, am an aspie…like Dylan, an autistic grandee of the royal nonesuch.

If my girlfriend dumps me she’s psycho.

If she decides to stay and torture me she’s suffering from Ass Burgers…

My wife is outside at midnight giving life support to one of the raccoons she adopted over the summer. No shit. She tames wild animals, teaches them to understand korean and behave.

The fattest fucking raccoon I ever saw in my life. No wonder he’s having a stroke. My wife kills the things she loves.

Her blind dog has diabetes.

I’m an alcoholic sadist.

Yet life goes on.

Sorry to hear about your break-up.

Did I ever tell you about sharing a beer with Peter Falk back in the day while he filmed the Brink’s Job on the streets of the North End?

I was a young lumpen prole working a warehouse gig for three bucks an hour on Commercial Street.

Falk was a pretty cool guy. Very salty down to earth.

Lots a sailor talk. He seemed a bit envious of us working-class gunks. He insisted he could only have one beer but it was obvious he could have used a few more. He stood on the sidewalk peering quizzically into the warehouse through his one trademarked steely eye just like Lt. Columbo, as we put on one of our best after-lunch-on-payday beer drinking performances ever, interrupted only occasionally by our Director, a good-natured displaced Georgia cracker named Grady, who would order one of us to re-arrange and consolidate a few more of the hundreds of partially-emptied palettes of floor tiles so we could free space for next Monday’s newest consignment.

Mr. Falk shifted his weight from one foot to the other in visible discomfort during the lengthy delay as the crew meticulously prepared a wintry illusion in the dead of summer. If they couldn’t capture the twelve second take before the quality of the sunlight changed they would be forced to come back tomorrow at the same time and try again.

I’d never after feel so free as I did in those days and now it’s gone, it’s all gone: Boston, Peter Falk, the drunkenness of youth.

UPDATE!!! Jeezus, the cops just came. She called the freaking pigs because of the raccoon. The Sheriff comes up with a rifle. Fewer things more unsettling than a cop roaming around your space armed to the teeth.

-Raccoon’s sick ma’am. We’ll have to shoot him….

Course, that won’t do. Frau Tale is crying, sobbing now. No one can cry more disconsolately, more forlornly, more instantly, than my wife.

-Why did I have to see him?

Her wail carries across the hush darkness of the woods as the sheriff trains his obnoxious flashlight on the dazed animal, who walks in circles, stumbles, falls flat, gets back up only to fall flat again and tremble.

-Get up baby! Get up and run away to save your life!

Frau Tale is really agitated. The Buddhist monks taught her as a child that she must remain disconnected from the ritual of dying in all its forms. She has never attended a funeral in her life. She apologised when she told me she would not be able to attend mine, even.

Finally, the copper turns to leave after I implore him not to shoot the hapless coon in front of my wife. Truth is, I’m not so keen on witnessing the little bugger croak either.

-No, no. I’ll just put him in this plastic bag and take him away.
-Uhm. Please. We need to let this play out, officer. My wife…

He shrugs and trudges back up the hill to his police cruiser. I realise he’s not such a bad guy. It’s the uniform, I guess, or the .22 calibre rifle in his right hand.

Maybe its me. Something powerful's taken hold and bothering me now, too.

Frau Tale sends me back to the house to google raccoon distemper. I better log off now before she realises I’m wasting my time blogging instead of being useful.

Too late! She glides soundlessly through the door as is her manner and stands in front of me as I frantically try to switch sites.

-Call the Sheriff back. He needs to come back. Quick now.

And like that, as gracefully as her quiet entrance, she disappears out the back door.

October 11, 2012 12:09 AM

Anonymous said…

It is my sad duty to report.

Life is short. Shorter for some than others.

RIP

Each man kills the thing he loves, by each let this be heard. Some do it with a bitter look, some with a flattering word. The coward does it with a kiss, the brave man with a sword. Some kill their love when they are young, some when they are old. Some strangle with the hands of lust, some with the hands of gold. The kindest use a knife because, the dead so soon grow cold. Some love too little, some too long, some buy and others sell. Some do the deed with so many tears, and some without a sigh.

For each man kills the thing he loves, yet each man does not die.

Oscar Wilde

Posted by: donkeytale | Oct 6 2019 14:21 utc | 4

@az: If true it certainly would be a major scoop. But as far as i can see, there is only a single leaked Podesta mail linked, and even that does not warrant any definitive conclusion.
One would need to establish much more direct evidence.
Or did i miss some other evidence?

Posted by: DontBelieveEitherPr. | Oct 6 2019 14:28 utc | 5

The mask keeps falling:

Amazon scales down India investment -- US e-commerce giant has so far invested only a third of its previous year investment in India operations

Time is running up for the Superpower by 2020.


Posted by: vk | Oct 6 2019 14:33 utc | 6

Posted by: BM | Oct 6 2019 14:13 utc | 2 /cont.

Thinking about it, a US colour change revolution against Pope Francis (as opposed to the corrupt usurper Benedict) does sound eminently plausible: not only that but most likely also a massive Russiagate-like campaign of subterfuge and obstruction to block the reforms he seemed to want when he first became Pope. I was quite hopeful at the time that something would come of it, and he seemed to be sincere, but what has materialised since then? Can't have the Pope cleaning up paedophilia in positions of power, that is a big no no - that would be ripping out the Deep State's favoured puppet strings, and cannot be tolerated. Likewise cleaning up the Vatican's shadowy banking operations is also a big no no. Can't have one of the most solid and essential pillars of establishment money laundering shaken up, can we? Out of the question.

Posted by: BM | Oct 6 2019 14:53 utc | 7

@ az | Oct 6 2019 13:06 utc | 1

It's an older link from 2017, but that theory actually makes a lot of sense. I myself have sometimes wondered how 'voluntary' Benedict's resignation really was. It certainly wasn't for health reasons, as the MSM sometimes implied, for Benedict is still alive and well more than 6 years on.

I found the following tidbits especially intriguing:

– International monetary transactions with the Vatican were suspended during the last few days prior to the resignation of Pope Benedict. Were any U.S. Government agencies involved in this?

– Why were international monetary transactions resumed on February 12, 2013, the day after Benedict XVI announced his resignation? Was this pure coincidence?

– What was the purpose and nature of the secret meeting between Vice President Joseph Biden and Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican on or about June 3, 2011?

All I can say for sure is that the Church made a big mistake when it finally abandoned the prohibition on usury a century ago. And it made an even bigger mistake by calling a Second Vatican Council in the 60s.

Posted by: Seamus Padraig | Oct 6 2019 14:59 utc | 8

Re Benedict: This is an excellent example of how ignoring real world context can cause derangement. But, first, Benedict was not a major obstacle to left wing conspiracy. Second, Francis is not some radical agent of influence. Third, US cardinals have influence but the Italian government/Mafia likely have more, and the US does not control the papal elections, which is an implicit premise to any alleged "coup" against Benedict.

Most of all though, no one is thinking seriously until they look for alternative hypotheses. Outside of laboratory experiments with controls, you must infer to the best explanation. One of the most potent problems facing the Church is the publicity and payouts over sexual abuse of altar boys. The Church for institutional self-protection must do something. Being reactionaries, booting out the gay priests is the ticket. The only speculative thing is the premise that Benedict is personally vulnerable on that score, and was pressured into resigning. Any hypothesis about outside political interference aimed at furthering the outsiders' wicked goals has to have some explanation of why Benedict resigned. They don't.

There are most certainly real conspiracies. But any theory about a given conspiracy that omits the gain to the conspirators, neglects explaining the mechanisms they use and falsifies the real world context are bad conspiracy theories. Those kind may indeed be neurotic symptoms. But they are often political slander instead.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Oct 6 2019 15:17 utc | 9

Do you think the HongKong-centric western media will report on this?

Posted by: Maracatu | Oct 6 2019 15:56 utc | 10

Hint:
Religion is poison

Lose the analysis on Catholic perverts---
What the planet needs is a Pope on a rope, for a start.

Posted by: Duncan Idaho | Oct 6 2019 16:05 utc | 11

az # 1

I remember reading about the visit of UK queen ER II to the Vatican, in Apr 2014 which was reported at the time of her giving the Pope a "jar of Jam" which seemed a bit disproportional to Silver cross on an orb of Lapis Lazuli - and possibly a little disrespectful(?) to the pope as Vatican City Head of State and UN observer, but the Queen 'bends the knee' for very few.

report at the time:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/10742391/The-Queen-meets-Pope-Francis-on-visit-to-Rome.html

My recollection at the time was that this visit came on the back of the Ireland revelations of priest/nun abuses of HRCC in Ireland, which in turn came about in part of the Boston Globe revelations in USA.

Wiki says: "2010, Pope Benedict XVI wrote a pastoral letter of apology for all of the abuse that had been carried out by Catholic clergy in Ireland"

The Boston Globe story helped bring to light the Jimmy Savile sex allegations in the UK in 2012. This included allegations that Prince Charles had repeatedly stayed at a cottage owned by Savile in Scotland with a quirky hand written thank you note by Charles to Savile indicating some hidden meaning not clear by the text.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile_sexual_abuse_scandal

Other abuses:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases_by_country

https://www.apnews.com/6e20d1e87a8e40bfacba9adf126bc560

It's perhaps interesting to know that Lapis Lazuli is known as "The Wisdom Keeper.” in crystal enthusiast circles and its meaning is to increase spiritual enlightenment. I don't pretend to understand the coded message that was included in the gift, though I'm reasonably confident that there was one. If pushed I'd say there was something of an apology and humility from the Pope in this, and a recognition of the power and authority of ER II. She's a good choice of emissary knowing pretty much all the main players.

Aside of this there's the Vatican Bank finacial sagaS...

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-23289297


sorry it's a BBC link :-(

and it would be lax to leave this comment without at least mentioning P2 and the Italian Govt. labyrinths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due

whilst one may dismiss P2 as conspiracy, one should at least note the significance of the persons who have been associated with it, and their ability to steer Italian politics over an extended period of time including that of Silvio Berlusconi.

Posted by: dennis | Oct 6 2019 16:29 utc | 12

Whitney Webb's latest article about Epstein is as engrossing as ever.

I found this among the comments:

The mainstream media also largely ignored the relationship of Seth Rich to Israel . According to a number of investigators Rich was a Mossad operative who had trained with the IDF in Israel “…and the whole thing was set up to tip public favor against the Democrats for a Trump win. Why? Because Trump was Israel’s choice . There was no greater supporter of Israel than Seth Rich . Hillary was only lukewarm to Israel and Israel was not happy with Obama .” Per Geopolitics ” Why Seth Rich’s case is key to #Russiagate Investigation ” .

It's good to see that others recognize that Seth Rich may not be the victim that is he believed to be. But the comment fails to put Seth Rich into a larger context.

The "DNC Hack" and Trump's hiring of Manafort were key to Russiagate and the new McCarthyism.

Why was the MAGA candidate hiring someone - for a Presidential race! - that had worked in Ukraine for years (no recent experience in US) and had the stigma of having worked for pro-Russian candidates?

Also: why did the MAGA candidate hire British firm Cambridge Analytica? There are plenty of Americans/American firms that Trump could've hired. Initially, it was claimed that Cambridge Analytica had special access to Facebook but we subsequently learned that facebook gave similar access to many other firms.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 6 2019 16:44 utc | 13

Lucy Komisar is reporting that William Browder had dealings with Robert Maxwell in the 1980s. @ around minute 13. Small world. The interview with Lucy is long and a bit rambling as the interviewer fails to keep her on track sufficiently IMO, but has information that was new to me.

Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 6 2019 16:52 utc | 14

Cars with high tech safety systems don't do jack

The American Automobile Association (AAA) conducted a series of tests using vehicles with automatic emergency braking and pedestrian detection alerts on a closed course with dummy pedestrians. And what they found was highly upsetting. The vehicles struck the dummy pedestrians that were crossing the road 60 percent of the time — and this was in daylight hours at speeds of 20 mph.

The researchers then swapped the adult dummies with a child-sized version, and the results got much, much worse: a collision occurred 89 percent of the time. Testing at night or at higher speeds also yielded a distressing number of collisions. When encountering an adult pedestrian at night, these supposed high-tech detection systems were “ineffective,” AAA says. None of the cars tested were able to detect an adult pedestrian at night.

...

The researchers tested several other scenarios, including encountering a pedestrian after a right-hand turn and two adults standing alongside the road with their backs to traffic. The latter scenario resulted in a collision 80 percent of the time, while the former yielded a 100 percent collision rate.

Four model year 2019 vehicles were used in AAA’s testing: Chevy Malibu, Honda Accord, Tesla Model 3, and Toyota Camry. Each vehicle was outfitted with sensors and cameras to capture information about vehicle dynamics, position data, and visual notifications from the detection systems.

It is no wonder that Tesla's "Smart Summon" feature fails miserably:
Tesla Smart Summon Fail 1
Tesla Smart Summon Fail 2
Tesla Smart Summon Fail 3
Tesla Smart Summon Fail 4
Tesla Smart Summon Fail 5
Tesla Smart Summon Fail 6
Tesla Smart Summon Fail 7
Tesla Smart Summon Fail 8
Tesla Smart Summon Fail 9
There are many, many more...

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 6 2019 16:53 utc | 15

Oh, my! I almost forgot to put up Iran Contra 2.0:

The last-minute operation was led by Guaido, promoted and sponsored by the administration of US President Donald Trump, and coordinated with Colombia’s President Ivan Duque and drug trafficking organization Los Rastrojos.

Posted by: Maracatu | Oct 6 2019 16:59 utc | 16

c1ue@15 - yes, so lets move ahead with kill systems that use AI to choose targets. Seems reasonable. At least it will generate a lot of good data, right? Whatever one thinks about the Bond films Spectre has some good dialogue about this issue.

Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 6 2019 17:02 utc | 17

to go with AZ..@1

Posted by: snake | Oct 6 2019 17:12 utc | 18

to go with AZ @ 1 more on 911

please erase the last comment it did not work.

Posted by: snake | Oct 6 2019 17:13 utc | 19

@16 Interesting article and good to see Richard Branson mentioned. That free concert in Cucuta will not be remembered as one of hs finest moments.

Posted by: dh | Oct 6 2019 17:34 utc | 20

Impeachment, Brought to You by the CIA - Rob Urie, Counterpunch

Rob Urie makes the case - as I have - that impeachment is meant to help Joe Biden. He does this in the context of establishment Democrats support for the oil & gas industry. And he rightly fingers CIA involvement, pointing out that "meddling" in elections is what they do.

Yet, IMO he fails to really see the duopoly forest for the partisan trees.

It's noteworthy that Trump kicked off this impeachment mess when he "innocently" spoke to the President of Ukraine. Just as he had "innocently" hired Manafort (who was known for work for pro-Russian Ukrainian political party and candidates) and the British Cambridge Analytica despite Trump's "America First" orientation. Trump's hiring of Manafort and his pleas for Russia to "release the emails" helped to fuel Russiagate.

But Trump's assistance was complemented by MI6's "Steele dossier" (linked to Skripal kidnapping) and Mossad's "DNC Hack" courtesy of Seth Rich (shown to be a leak) and Hillary's strange (for a seasoned campaigner) alienating of key voting groups (blacks, progressives, and white "deplorables").

The Ukrainegate mess is a nothingburger that only serves to channel media attention such that the race for the Democratic Party primary is short-circuited: all you hear about now is Biden and Trump.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 6 2019 17:37 utc | 21

Once again, MAGA was Kissinger's prescription for countering the Russia-China alliance, which he wrote in his August 2014 WSJ Op-Ed (after it was clear that Donbas rebels had prevailed):

Even as the lessons of challenging decades are examined, the affirmation of America's exceptional nature must be sustained. History offers no respite to countries that set aside their sense of identity in favor of a seemingly less arduous course.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 6 2019 18:00 utc | 22

Baghdad and Iraq is getting hot again. Looks like a coup was unfolded by firing the top general to lead a military coup supported by the west and now crowd are getting shot by snipers. Same f**king M.O. as Ukraine Maidan square. Of course, funded by the usual suspects. KSA needs a another warning shot across the bow.

And now, the same coup is about to happen here in US. A wounded lion is more dangerous than ever.

Posted by: Uncle Jon | Oct 6 2019 19:35 utc | 23

Regarding the discussion on Popes Benedict XVI and Francis I, it would be useful to remember that Benedict XVI was John Pail II's protegee and choice to succeed him. JPII himself was useful in the Western drive to weaken the Warsaw Pact and turn the Polish general public against the Polish govt and the Soviets generally; at the same time, JPII was useful in opposing and crushing the Marxist-inclined Liberation Theology movement among the lower levels of Catholic clergy in parts of Latin America. Hence, the lack of condemnation by JPII of Archbishop Romero's assassination by govt thugs during Mass in El Salvador in 1981 or 1982; and JPII's failure to improve the salary levels and general working conditions of lower-level Catholic clergy throughout the world.

Once JPII had served his purpose in helping get rid of Communism in Poland, he served another purpose in constantly meddling in Polish politics and ensuring Poland stayed estranged from the Russians.

After JPII's passing, his favoured choice Benedict XVI was dogged by his Hitler Youth background and the mess regarding paedophilia that JPII had failed to deal with.

As for the current Pope, his past as a bishop during military junta rule in Argentina and relations with General Raphael Videla should be of concern. Francis I most resembles Canadian PM Justin Trudeau in prancing around as a "woke" leader with a past at odds with his present image.

Posted by: Jen | Oct 6 2019 20:06 utc | 24

@Really? 163 (of ‘Superpower Losing Its Status’ blogpost)
Many thanks for the link - will repost below. I’ll always make time to read prof. Stephen Cohen - or watch him effortlessly dismantle shills on networks game enough to have him on. Indeed, a voice of sanity and reason amongst what is now certifiiable delirium. Though, all he is doing once again is repeating the historical timeline that has lead us to the here and now, though this time adding the Biden/Biden Jr framework in as part of that timeline...the Dem elite will have wished they just left it alone. A huge unforced error which Trump will use as a common thread for re-election. A very early Christmas gift that won’t stop giving.

@psychohistorian 161 (of ‘Superpower Losing Its Status’ blogpost)
She some piece of work. Can’t give her a pass. These people really come off as holier than thou, when they should really just be quiet - diplomacy is becoming outlawed. As far as pieces of shit go, give me the obvious piece of shit everyday, over the piece of shit pretending it is French perfume <—- the essence of Trump’s re-election in 2020 (as seen by a foreign spectator)

Link to the Stephen Cohen article:
http://www.unz.com/scohen/unasked-questions-about-us-ukrainian-relations/


Posted by: MadMax2 | Oct 6 2019 20:14 utc | 25

https://twitter.com/education4libs/status/1180669227931451392?s=21

EducatingLiberals
@education4libs

Greta Thunberg:
-16 yrs old
-No accomplishments
-Has no practical solutions
-176M Google results

Boyan Slat:
-Invented the first ocean plastic cleanup system at 16 yrs old
-Requires no economic destruction
-270k Google results


But they don’t want solutions, they want more taxes

~~~~~


Fair enough.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Oct 6 2019 21:34 utc | 26

AZ@1

Pope Benedict XVI was not overthrown, he is still the Pope. Bergoglio is an anti-pope and a usurper, who needs to be removed, as of right now.

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2019-10/new-cardinals-visit-pope-emeritus.html

...just a man doing hi job, O.K.

https://nonvenipacem.com/

..and, you ask for further proof? Check it out! https://youtu.be/myRP0orPcDc , the final proof Benedict is Pope.

Posted by: Taffyboy | Oct 6 2019 22:27 utc | 27

Epstein / Ghislaine Maxwell & connections

a few crumbs down the rabbit hole here:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/epstein-his-connection-to-the-club-of-manipulators/

The independent link is broken but comes up on a word search.

Armstrong has personal experience of being held in the MCC

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/will-there-ever-be-a-real-investigation-of-epsteins-death/

Posted by: dennis | Oct 6 2019 22:29 utc | 28

In the "good old days" having 46K US auto workers on strike for 3 weeks would be top billing in the press non-stop given the primary and secondary economic hit to the US

But today in the US it is just 2nd rate weekly news compared to the daily Civilization war machinations by failing empire around the world and the impeachment smokescreen at home

And then there are those economic fundamentals propping up Mr. Market to make it look like all is well at home..../snark

I am sorry for the killings by my country (US) to keep the cult of global private finance in control...we are not all humanitarian cretins.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 6 2019 22:53 utc | 29

A lot of chiding directed at Hong Kong's administration for its "police-state" measure banning face masks at demonstrations, with most blissfully unaware that such laws are common across the western democracies.

The New Yorker magazine is promoting the new impeachment allegations just as hard as it did the Russiagate fiasco. In a new piece warning of "spin and lies", not to mention "falsehoods and conspiracy theories", designed to muddy the noble whistleblower's complaint, the author actually writes:

"Ukraine is enmeshed in a low-grade but persistent war with Russia, which began in February, 2014, after a popular revolution in Kiev that ousted President Viktor Yanukovych, a corrupt ally of Moscow. He fled to Russia, and Vladimir Putin ordered Russian forces to invade Ukraine. They seized Crimea, which Russia then annexed. Putin’s motive was the reassertion of Russian power; the United States and Europe, stunned by his audacity, imposed sanctions and tried to shore up the post-revolutionary government in Kiev."

Wow, a lot of falsehood and conspiracy theory in just four sentences.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/10/07/the-integrity-of-the-trump-impeachment-inquiry

Posted by: jayc | Oct 6 2019 23:10 utc | 30

@30 Psychohistorian

No you are not all cretins. One of the great tragedies of the last 30 years is that what really made America great has been buried under the banal predictability of its corporatist oligarchy. I for one still see your country as the land of Hemingway, Pollock, Fredric Jameson, The Doors, Elvis, jazz, extraordinary cinema (once...), vital intellectual and artistic energies, the land Tocqueville admired, the land of Steinbeck, tragic in its folly, heroic in its youth, Europe's puritan cousin, the scars of the Civil War (which have yet to heal properly), its once mighty democratic universities of the mid-West, the brilliant satire and comedy, the New Deal, its local generous salt-of-the-earth communities, its physical beauty. As an Australian who has lived there on occasion I'll always remember what a deep thinker the USA can be, not always triumphal capitalist, blinker-protestant, dully conservative, but sometimes a place of great humanism and inspiring vision. I think all of us want that USA rather than the corrupt beltway opportunist Rep-Dem cabal-led parody it has become.

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 6 2019 23:33 utc | 31

The US House of Representatives has not voted on an impeachment resolution so far. The action now is the movie trailer for the 2020 presidential campaign.

Who files impeachment charges?

The U.S. Constitution gives the House the sole power to impeach a federal official. Individual House members can introduce impeachment resolutions like ordinary bills, or the House could initiate impeachment proceedings by passing a resolution authorizing an inquiry.

The House Judiciary Committee, which has jurisdiction over impeachment proceedings, decides whether to pursue articles of impeachment against the accused official and can hold hearings to review the accusations. If the committee votes to approve articles of impeachment, the formal charges move to the full House for consideration.

The House votes on each of the articles of impeachment separately and can approve them with a simple majority of those voting. If all 435 House members vote, then 218 votes would be needed.

If the articles are adopted, the accused has formally been impeached.

Posted by: pogohere | Oct 7 2019 0:11 utc | 32

The one thing I'd love Hunter and Joe Biden to account for is the logistics of how he got that board position. Was there a job ad in papers or online and he figured he'd send an application? Was there an international search for the best and brightest? Did the rest of the board get a bunch of phone books from the US and randomly opened a page and it was Hunter Biden?

If the Bidens are insisting this wasn't corruption, then Hunter wasn't hired because of who his father was, then how in the hell does a Ukraine energy company hire a random drug addict from America? I'd like them to explain that process in detail.

Posted by: Soft Asylum | Oct 7 2019 0:16 utc | 33

Here's an interesting guy to google..

https://danielpsheehan.com/

Very interesting videos..

Posted by: ben | Oct 7 2019 0:33 utc | 34

to MadMax2 # 27. Thank you. Yes, the Greta displays are inutile and infantile. Thank you for ref to Boyan Slat. Very very interesting and promising. There are some people working on carbon recapture. A couple are Tim Flannery and a yaley called Hawken, who both propose using seaweeds to recapture carbon. Unlike Boyan Slat, I am not aware of any active projects at the moment, which is a shame. There is another fellow - to be formal, scientist, who thinks that simply planting trees could make a huge difference. I misplaced his research papers. I'll be back with that.

On the very very negative side, is the problem of glyphosate. Of course there are many researchers in this area. I have been following Rosemary Mason lately. There are so many horrible toxins. Sulfoxaflor, legal in EU. Toxic to bees. Chlorpyrifos, banned in EU, legal in US. Made by your friends at Dow Chemical. According to one researcher, "there is no safe dose." So the question is: how can these chemicals be neutralized or removed? Of course the ultimate tragedy is that most people don't know and don't care to know.

Sorry, I don't give links.... afraid of the link-nazis. DuckDuckGo knows... cheers

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Oct 7 2019 0:50 utc | 35

@2 bm

Couldn’t disagree more. Francis in his globalist leanings resembles Obama to a T. You can see this in his ability to cloud the minds of middle-Brow admirers the world over. Traditional and nationalist Catholics abhor Francis and some believe he is leading the church to an inevitable second schism. Like the government that Trump now fronts, there are competing interests in a game of thrones within the Vatican. Francis is a useful idiot for further modernizing the church down the path of wishy washy worldliness, visible currently in Francis’ call to accept migrants further eroding European cultural homogeny, yet conspicuoulsy neglecting to mention that the west’s incursion into the near east has contributed to this. Climate change is also a silly topic the church is imposing in its teaching, asking both for countries to yield soverignty to supranational agencies and curbing the developing world’s use of burning fuels to lift them out of abject poverty and squalor.

Francis, like many world leaders, is one of many leading the demonic dialectic of globalism.

Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Oct 7 2019 1:27 utc | 36

I apologize for the length of this comment but think it is worth it.
It consists of an email I received today from my "progressive" Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley about the impeachment proceedings followed by my response to him

Jeff Merkley email
"
Dear James,
I’m sure you’ve been hearing a lot about impeachment lately -- on the news, online, and maybe from your own friends and family.

As impeachment proceedings begin in the U.S. Congress, I wanted you to also hear directly from me as your representative in the United States Senate.

Impeachment is a grave step. It should never be used over political or policy differences, no matter how strong those disagreements may be. It must be reserved for the most weighty situations in which there is substantial evidence of serious lawbreaking or fundamental abuse of power.

Unfortunately, we are now at a moment where there is substantial evidence of both.

The presidency comes with awesome powers, and our Constitution and our entire system of government is designed to ensure that those powers are constrained by the rule of law.

There is substantial evidence that President Trump has violated those boundaries.

The Mueller report lays out extensive evidence of criminal wrongdoing by President Trump in four cases of obstruction of justice, including one case of witness tampering. More than one thousand former federal prosecutors have written to Congress stating that any ordinary American committing these acts would be indicted for felony crimes.

And now we are presented with substantial evidence that President Trump used his office to solicit the foreign government of Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 U.S. presidential election. If true, this is an enormous abuse of power.

Our founders were deeply afraid of an imperial presidency where the President would begin to act outside the law. They guarded against that by giving the House of Representatives the power of impeachment, which is equivalent to an indictment, and the Senate the power to hold a trial following impeachment. Conviction requires a supermajority of two-thirds of the Senators. This guarantees that a conviction must have bi-partisan support.

As I ponder this moment, I keep thinking about the enormous responsibility Congress has to hold the President accountable to the rule of law. It is a responsibility that must be exercised without partisan taint. We must strive for a standard that would be applied equally regardless if a President is in one’s own party or in the opposing party.

I encourage all Oregonians to be engaged as we wrestle with the process before us. Read the key sections of the Mueller Report. Examine the whistleblower letter and the testimony it leads to. And feel free to share your thoughts by calling or writing my office.

While the House proceeds with the impeachment inquiry, I hope the Senate will turn to the many issues we face. Good legislation is awaiting action in the Senate on healthcare, housing, education, infrastructure, jobs, equality of opportunity, and carbon pollution. We would do the nation a real service to engage in debating and voting on the bills that address these issues.

If the House does act on impeachment and there is a Senate trial, I pledge as a Senate juror to work to ensure that the rules established for the trial ensure that the Senate and the American people get a complete picture of the evidence and the appropriate context to understand its significance. Moreover, I pledge to weigh that evidence carefully and conscientiously.

This will be a test of the rule of law and our system of government, and whether and how we rise to the occasion will have impacts on American government far into the future.

Impeachment is a step Congress should resolve to take only as a last resort, but we must be equally resolved to safeguard the principle that, in America, nobody is above the law.

All my best,
Jeff
"
My response
"
Senator,

Humanity is currently engaged in a Civilization war and the core of that war is about public/private finance, not about democracy and freedom. The US is the current ugly face of the international cabal of empire that has controlled the events of the Western world for centuries. That cabal has bought and is directing many US politicians at your level but I do not consider you one of them and continue to hope I never do. The actions of our country around the world to support global private finance is sickening. It is clear to me that the international empire is behind the protests in HK and in Iraq as it continues to try and take down the Syrian government. I am no fan of Liberace grifter Trump but I also believe that Hillary "We came, we saw, he died" Clinton is a war criminal, as well as many others.

I believe that "public finance" China and its allies will win this Civilization war the world is in because they have the moral high ground. In the mean time Americans are continually brainwashed with the memes fed to them on todays Plato's Cave displays such that the 46K auto workers on strike for the past 3 weeks get only weekly summaries and the seminal public banking legislation passed and signed into law in California (the 5th largest economy in the world) gets absolutely no coverage in the MSM.

I consider the mud slinging impeachment proceedings to be another distraction from the core issues that Americans face as our country is gutted by the financialization by global private finance. I encourage you to stand up for the masses in this Civilization war that humanity is engaged in and not the cult of global private finance causing all this murder and mayhem, please and thank you. And while you are at it, how about returning the Motto of the United States back to the sentiments of the Founding Fathers, E Pluribus Unum.

With Respect for your efforts,
James
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 7 2019 1:59 utc | 37

@38; IMO, the truth should never need an apology. Well said...

Posted by: ben | Oct 7 2019 2:18 utc | 38

@38 psycho

Thx for sharing the letter from our senator who I voted for years ago but wouldn’t again.

You left out an important matter of fact in your response: history remembers those who stand up for what is right, because they can see what’s coming down the pike whereas others can not. History will not remember Merkley, because he has done nothing to differentiate himself from all his cohorts that mark themselves with (D).

And I laughed when he did exploratory pressers to gauge his presidential chances. I remember his campaign advertisement: playing ping pong in his garage, poorly, with his son. It was endearing. Now it seems the cold touch of partisan politics has doomed him in my mind to play along with the game in the misguided hope of executive power he does not deserve.

Posted by: Nemesiscalling | Oct 7 2019 2:30 utc | 39

Thank you MadMax2 #26, That Stephen Cohen story at Unz was a good read. Cohens words “ ….Ukraine is now likely to be a contested, and poisonous, issue in the 2020 US presidential election. How did the United States become so involved in Ukraine’s torturous and famously corrupt politics? The short answer is NATO expansion, as some of us who opposed that folly back in the 1990s warned would be the case, and not only in Ukraine”.

Those words reminded me of a brief but interesting story on the release of the Georgian Mafia from its territorial boundary. See this story from 2013.

I will take a peek to see where that chummy little gang of murderers has got by 2019. I bet they are well represented on K street and no doubt have a representative in the US Congress by now.

F#cking clowns.!

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 7 2019 2:49 utc | 40

Senator, do you believe that the American people have a right to know what the Vice President and his son were doing in Ukraine which appears wrong and might have been illegal? And if not, why not? Wouldn't any effort to block such information be an obstruction of justice of the type you accuse Trump of?

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 7 2019 3:01 utc | 41

The Las Vegas Shooter, Two Years Later


From Truthdig by Greg Palast;

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-las-vegas-shooter-two-years-later/

Posted by: ben | Oct 7 2019 3:08 utc | 42

@ 42: No doubt DB, but, since they both work for the same people, nothing will happen to either one..

Posted by: ben | Oct 7 2019 3:12 utc | 43

Who's behind Hong Kong protests?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZvlhizKb0

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 7 2019 3:23 utc | 44

I was watching a program on YouTube yesterday and one of those annoying adds popped up. The add requested me to support the protesters in HC. I have never seen an add of this nature before. Usually the adds are related to healthcare. The funny thing was I was watching Seventeen Moments of Spring, a Soviet TV spy drama produced in 1973 about a soviet spy working in Nazi German intelligence set in the spring of 1945. Somebody is pushing this agenda pretty hard I think. Anybody else run across something similar?

Posted by: Tom | Oct 7 2019 3:25 utc | 45

Don Bacon #45. Thanks for that. Very good . For many in western society our governments interference in others countries seems normal. We after all are the good guys. We know better. Just trust us. This goes as well for the "solutions" to environmental problems. Those participating in the process are well vetted so as to not thinking outside their box. I can't think of one example of the leaders of China or Russia talking to opposition figures the way FUKUS does on a daily basis. Both Russia and the US claim to abide by rule based international order. Both can't be right. One must look at their actions and it is quite clear who isn't abiding by those rules and it certainly isn't the exceptional nation. MSM provides a thick smokescreen to hide the daily breaking of these rules. It amusing watching the debate about HC officials banning the wearing of masks. MSM "Oh that is terrible." Comments section of article "But we have a similar law." MSM "Yea but that's different." MSM, Russia isn't abiding by the Minsk 2 agreements. Russia, "we are only signatories to the agreement". It's the Paris peace talks all over again. No free elections or "U.S. financial contributions to “healing the wounds of war” throughout Indochina." The war continued.

I ran across this article. "Rules Based International Order: the Rhetoric and the Reality"
The final paragraph sums it up quite well. "Arguably the best prospects for avoiding war lie in the ongoing and increasingly successful development of the alternative multi polar world being developed by Russia and China. In the meantime it would be a substantial advance if the rhetoric of the west about its belief in the value of international Law as the basis of relationships between nations was reflected in the their actual behaviour."

https://journal-neo.org/2018/10/17/rules-based-international-order-the-rhetoric-and-the-reality/

Posted by: Tom | Oct 7 2019 4:32 utc | 46

MSM is reporting the White House has green-lit Turkey's invasion of Syria, here

Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 7 2019 4:51 utc | 47

"Giuliani Says Trump Has ‘Every Right’ to Ask Other Countries to Help Him Investigate Biden", and he's 100% correct, although a great many won't like or accept that reality. Trump as POTUS is the Chief Magistrate within the Federal Government of the USA, and as the Constitution states is responsible for the enforcement of the laws of the USA. Yes, I'll be the first and loudest to argue Trump's been very remise in performing the #1 duty of his office, but so was Obama and a huge number of all POTUS. It's most certainly in the interest of every US citizen (and the wider world) that any criminality performed by any candidate for POTUS be exposed so a criminal doesn't get nominated/elected and gets prosecuted for the crime(s). That such police work hasn't been openly done before doesn't mean it shouldn't as I've explained above. Most know that one of my biggest points of contention regarding the Outlaw US Empire is its massively deep morass of corruption, and someone must become the first "victim" to fall under what must become a quest to expunge that problem and the behavior/philosophy that acquiesces and promotes it. Biden and son, their associates and the Clintons are all excellent candidates to be the first to fall. China sentences the likes of them to death, so they ought to consider themselves lucky they'd escape with their lives.

It's the GD Swamp--Drain It!

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 7 2019 5:04 utc | 48

@ Jackrabbit | Oct 6 2019 16:44 utc | 13

It's good to see that others recognize that Seth Rich may not be the victim that is he believed to be. But the comment fails to put Seth Rich into a larger context.
And despite the use of double quotation marks, the comment also fails to cite any sources.

To be sure, I have heard this theory before, and it does make a certain amount of sense. I'd just be reluctant to accept it without some proof, being as how there's so much disinformation out there--and at least some of that disinfo comes from Team Hillary. (David Brock, anyone?)

Posted by: Seamus Padraig | Oct 7 2019 6:56 utc | 49

From a previous post. I repost this with some updates. We humans have a problem.

karlofi @3 is right<==Bevin @5: the desperate dependent establishment vs independent Corbyn
<== in USA governed America, the elite have developed a global digital infrastructure ( a bounded environment) and they are developing into that infrastructure, a bit logic controlled system which will be capable to win any argument or to achieve any result. The emerging infra structure is a little more visible in politics because the elite have already taken total control over nominee access to candidacy for public offices<=few candidates not acceptable to the establishment can become a candidates for public office at nearly any level of government, federal, state, county, city, etc.and the few that succeed to candidacy are denounced by the privately owned, highly integrated with most parts of government and the privately owned, agency controlled, public media. Everywhere dissent in any public form is denied either by denunciation, imprisonment, hiding or manipulating available information, or by allowing/denying access (gates) to the information in the bit environment we humans have been confined to. We, the governed, are rats in their digital cages.

I remind Presidential election platforms in USA elections were totally controlled by the multi-national corporations (Bush = Iraq, Obama ="changed" America, but invaded Ukraine, Trump =greatened the USA at the expense of the governed Americans. It may be years before the damage assessments become accurate.

AFAICT all three elected USA Presidents worked to incarcerate 'governed Americans'in the emerging digital infrastructure <=the deplorables have been confined to bit controlled, digital cages. These cages (are physically armed, digitally gated, environments that allow information to be manipulated and access to media to be controlled. The behaviors of the humans incarcerated within the digital infrastructures are controlled in accord to established environment rules; using feedforward, feedback logic. Marcon, MBS, and Sissi in France, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt seem to be part of this corporate conspiracy <=separating the governed from any kind of access to the powers, policies or secret operations or personnel of the OCICD controlled government itself. The digitally controlled, bit cages are designed and constructed to accommodate 24/7 surveillance (spying), to approve/deny to humans all sensory experience in accord to target defined design limits. Feed-back/feed-forward controls behavior to rule defined targets <=such a system can control all people in all nation states. The behaviors of 8 billion people are electronically confined, and behaviorally controlled, by bit gates and digital logic.

The intelligence agencies and now the everyday militarises no longer seem to be unique to one particular nation state, but instead are unitized and merged as multi national teams that support OCICD intent directed against the behaviors of everyone, everywhere. The multi-national, monopoly powered, nation state franchised corporations [organized crime in corporate disguise (OCICD)] have expanded, tuned and taken as their own, the digital technologies, spy and mind control technologies they were paid to develop as government contractors and turned these developed technologies into powerful digital weapons, using them to spy, mind control, and experiment in real time on the containerized human herds, and as a result they now control the behaviors of traditional governments and the governed populations of the traditional governments.

Realizing the possibility that OCICD may have organized itself sufficiently to declare war on traditional governments and they have developed sufficient ways to deny the will of the governed and the leaders in those traditional governments, suggest to me certain null hypothesis should be tested:

Hypothesis 1: OCICD intends to replace all traditional governments everywhere with OCICD controlled government.

hypothesis II: The OCICD used public funds to develop weapons grade mind and behavior control digital technology.

Hypothesis III: Digital weapons are capable to control all human experience to target values.

Hypothesis IV: Walls and space in digitally controlled human containers support weaponized virtual content.

Hypothesis V: Digital infrastructure can support mind control (attitudes, beliefs, responsive and reflective behavior).

Hypothesis VI: Evidence exist to support the thesis that OCICD is attempting to install and use digital
infrastructure to gain absolute control over human behavior in at least one nation state.

Boris Johnson calls it digital authority

Why-if there is no difference between the two political parties in America, as is routinely asserted here- the powers that be are going out on a limb, and using the most extraordinary extra constitutional methods, to put down a Labour party which differs not at all from the current government.. by Bevin @ 5. These methods don't confine themselves to the UK.. It's global Ben @ 7

Example American voters "vote big time" and "candidates spend millions" on election campaigns in which the voters have no vote at all (the electoral college, not the voters, elect the President and VP o\e USA). The reason for massive spending <=propaganda can promote division and hate (like the binary in a football game; it divides the fans and turns the power of the masses therein, into two highly antagonist, massively coordinated, polar reacting, opposite sides). So binaries can divide the people, binaries can divide the votes, binaries can control election outcomes. Consider 9 persons, one elected to be the leader.. the leader establishes an issue which divides the 8 voters into 4 for the issue and 4 against the issue, the elected gets to break the tie and elect himself. With mass populations the same, only there a few thousand break the tie. Now a question.. are you sure it is both sides of the two parties that are so against Corbyn or is it a party indifferent group that are against something Corbyn will do if elected?. updated from my Oct 1 2019 2:47 utc | 32 post..

Posted by: snake | Oct 7 2019 8:27 utc | 50

Surprize, Surprize, Surprize the US has sold out the Kurds, again (what is this, the 4th time now - who could have seen this coming). So now Turkey is invading Syria and the Kurds will have to crawl back to the Syrian government and beg them to ask the Turks not to massacre them. Once again the Kurds have shown that they will not lean from experience and have been led down the garden path by the US only to be abandoned at the worst possible moment because the US decided there was more geo-political benefit to leaving the Kurds high and dry in order to make nice to Turkey.

Posted by: Kadath | Oct 7 2019 10:48 utc | 51

Once again [US has sold out the Kurds, and] the Kurds have shown that they will not lean from experience and have been led down the garden path by the US only to be abandoned at the worst possible moment because the US decided there was more geo-political benefit to leaving the Kurds high and dry in order to make nice to Turkey.

Posted by: Kadath | Oct 7 2019 10:48 utc | 52

The weird thing is that I can't see that Kurds were sold, what is it that USA got from Erdogan on this particular occasion. Erdogan purchased anti-aircraft systems from Russia, to considerable teeth gnashing on American side, was excluded from purchasing latest overpriced American flying technical wonders (or junk?), why would Trump give him some delicacies for breakfast? One could think that the main reason could be that they are CIA pets and with CIA being nasty with Trump, he can be nasty with CIA by doing sh..t to their pets.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 7 2019 11:17 utc | 52

Randy Wray is an excellent MMT economist. Here he gives some recent observations on the subject as well as a brief outline of some of its history.

http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2019/10/mmt-report-from-the-front.html#more-11585

""The way forward. The global challenges we face will push MMT forward. While climate change is the most obvious challenge, it is linked to rising inequality, marginalization of displaced workers, ruthless austerity policy, growing waves of refugees, and the take-over of national governments by neoliberals and even fascists. Our “progressive” friends will push for market-friendly solutions: taxes on financial transactions, taxes on pollution, taxes on rich folks to pay for goodies. None of those helps. We have to return to the WWII mobilization to see how to tackle the current challenges—so MMT will eventually win out. It is all about resource mobilization, not finance. And we must include all the necessary social programs in the Green New Deal: jobs for all, healthcare for all, food for all, shelter for all, education for all, decent retirement for all. Bernie, AOC, and Naomi Klein recognize the scope of the challenges. The climate crisis cannot be resolved without taking on the social crisis—the financialization of the economy, the financialization of housing, food, healthcare, education, the electoral process; the entire society.

We probably are not the first intelligent life form to go through this. Any advanced alien species on other planets that survived 10,000 years of civilization have already successfully navigated a crisis similar to the one we face. They discovered fossil fuels and smoked their planet. Their financial sector took over the economy and produced intolerable inequality. But they greened the economy, overthrew their Wall Street, and took back their societies and economies and put them to work for the benefit of their species. Otherwise, they would not have survived.

We can take comfort and inspiration from that. We might just survive, too.""

Posted by: financial matters | Oct 7 2019 12:48 utc | 53

THE kurds get no sympathy from me. Rojava was never going to be a viable independent state with or without US help. They should have made a deal with the Syrian government when they had the chance..

Posted by: dh | Oct 7 2019 13:45 utc | 54

I think that the most interesting gift Trump gave Erdogan is the following (from here):

The United States Government has pressed France, Germany, and other European nations, from which many captured ISIS fighters came, to take them back, but they did not want them and refused. The United States will not hold them for what could be many years and great cost to the United States taxpayer. Turkey will now be responsible for all ISIS fighters in the area captured ove the past two years in the wake of the defeat of the territorial "Caliphate" by the United States.

I expect Turkey doing some hard core blackmailing on the EU, in the near future.

Posted by: Erlindur | Oct 7 2019 14:01 utc | 55

Tom @47 stated: Both Russia and the US claim to abide by rule based international order. Both can't be right."

Not to sound pedantic, but this isn't entirely accurate. While the US is trying to establish its "rules based order", Russia takes pains to specify that the international order that they support is one based upon laws, not rules. It may seem a minor distinction, but the distinction is actually enormous. You can see this distinction in the fact that the US does not talk of international law anymore, but rather of rules. This is because the United States has unilaterally violated the most serious of international laws ever: Initiating wars of aggression.

"To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole." --International Military Tribunal, Nuremberg

Where international law is concerned the United States is, as karlof1 likes to point out, an outlaw state. The US is currently the perpetrator of the very most heinous crimes on the planet right now. America is the #1 worst criminal nation on Earth. This isn't hyperbole or exaggeration for shock and insult value, but simply the literal truth. And this is why the words "international law" get stuck in the craw of State Department spox and why American reps to international organizations never use those words anymore. The US introduced the phrase "rules based order" less than half a decade ago in order to discuss an international order that can be run by a criminal state with a powerful military that makes up the rules as it chooses. The role of other nations in that "rules based order" is none other than to submit to the criminal state's rules. So long as other nations obey the rules dictated by the United States, then there is order.

Example of "rules based order": There was no legal precedent in international law for Britain to seize the Iranian tanker near Gibraltar earlier this year. In fact, by international law that act was literally piracy. That act did, however, comply with a "rules based order". The US dictated that the rules are for the world to obstruct Iran's commerce and trade, and Britain followed the rules dictated to it, even though there were no international laws that permitted that action.

So you see, this "rules based order" is clearly not something that Russia (or China or Iran or Venezuela or Syria etc) will sign off on. An order based upon international law? Certainly, so long as that law also applies to the biggest criminals around as well. For that to happen, though, Bush and Cheney, and yes Obama and Biden also, will need to be introduced to the gallows.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 7 2019 14:04 utc | 56

@56. Trump will probably just move a few troops around .....not really a withdrawal. It's all about controlling Syrian oilfields and keeping pressure on Assad,.

Posted by: dh | Oct 7 2019 14:15 utc | 57

One point that is missing from the Joe Biden discussion:

Hunter Biden has never been under investigation in Ukraine and there has never been a suggestion he did anything illegal under Ukrainian or US law. The investigation and scandal is about two things.

  • Burisma and its owners were investigated for corruption and tax evasion.
  • Burisma hired Hunter Biden to get protection from Ukrainian prosecutors. Joe Biden provided it. A form of Pay-to-play.

I am again seeing suggestions that Ivanka Trump's business benefitted from his dad's position. Maybe, but that is not illegal.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Oct 7 2019 14:15 utc | 58

@32 Patroklos

I meant to say "Thank You" yesterday for your memoir. I had truly forgotten. That's how I used to think of the US. I'm sure many did, within the country and around the world.

We see now that it always had its bad side, from its very beginning. But the culture as a whole didn't know that, and reflected the exuberant creativity and humanity you recall. It showed so much promise.

I don't know what the ordinary people of the US think today, if there is even a mainstream that can be observed and assessed - this was always a tricky thing to get right, often requiring wise vision rather than measuring sticks. But no one anymore speaks of the American Dream - no one, anywhere, ever - or any of the greatness you allude to.

The hardliners are still as hard, and as absurdly inaccurate, as they ever were in their exceptionalist view. But the middle of the road seems very muted.

Posted by: Grieved | Oct 7 2019 14:31 utc | 59

another Swamp Monster has gone to find another rock to lurk under ...

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/269674

We will probably never know if she jumped or was pushed .. she will likely go the way of Bolton, that is, out of the public eye but not too far from the halls of power..

Posted by: ziogolem | Oct 7 2019 14:34 utc | 60

Snipers now active in Iraq firing into crowds. Another Western false flag?

Posted by: lysias | Oct 7 2019 14:36 utc | 61

@ karlof1 | Oct 7 2019 5:04 utc | 49

Of course Trump is finally doing the right thing, even if for the wrong reasons.

But the permanent government has little appetite for the practical aspects of accountability (as with any large bureacracy).
So he will get only half-hearted support for "his" side.
They are not worried about who wins the election, they are intent and being "team" players - the team being again the permanent government.

They were right to fear the admission of an outsider.

It is good to see him finally break free of the swamp.
Most who try, fail, I think.
But it's definitely changed my vote.

Posted by: jared | Oct 7 2019 14:48 utc | 62

And now the the shake-up in Syria.
An ZH posting that 2nd whistle-blower is likely Bolton.

As I've heard that Churchill said of Americans:
They will do the right thing, after exhausting all other options.

Posted by: jared | Oct 7 2019 14:51 utc | 63

China reafirms its socialist system:

Socialism with Chinese characteristics with global vision and a sense of humanity

Posted by: vk | Oct 7 2019 15:05 utc | 64

This is a general request to commenters since I value the degree of insight you have.
There are a number of concepts that are very difficult to grasp: banking, layers and layers of intelligence operations, etc. How about designing a few explanations that drill into the core of a concept? for example: "money laundering for dummies" or, more politely "for most of us" using lots of graphics and ven diagram'type visuals that explain the core concept. Judging by many comments I think therer are an unusual number of people on this site who understand more about, say, money laundering, than I. It would really help me if you could help me learn some of those concepts.

Posted by: miguel jose | Oct 7 2019 15:14 utc | 65

Cool powerpoint explaining why bourgeois economics is a pseudo-science:

The nature of economic crises in the 21st century

Posted by: vk | Oct 7 2019 15:23 utc | 66

"There was no legal precedent in international law for Britain to seize the Iranian tanker near Gibraltar earlier this year. In fact, by international law that act was literally piracy." William Gruff @57

The same might be said of the absolutely amazing breach of international and national law in the arrest and detention of Huawei's Meng Wangzhou
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/10/07/hsbc-
never-left-dope-trade-nor-crown-why-hsbc-is-no-victim-
institution-huawei-case/
Significantly both of these cases involved US Satellites-or are they?-just as earlier breaches of law "rendition', torture, jailing without trial dragged in other countries as accomplices in and apologists for the dismantling of the UN Charter and Geneva Conventions.
In the end what we are left with is the doctrine that the bully prevails. In this case in which the bully, is neither particularly well armed nor capable of imposing his will on anyone but his 'allies, in part because 'Defense' is largely an excuse for issuing fat contracts to cronies, there is bound to be a reckoning. And it will take place in the short run.

Posted by: bevin | Oct 7 2019 15:34 utc | 67

A lot of chiding directed at Hong Kong's administration for its "police-state" measure banning face masks at demonstrations, with most blissfully unaware that such laws are common across the western democracies.
...
Posted by: jayc | Oct 6 2019 23:10 utc | 31

Yep. Ms Lam is on a winner with this one, imo.
The disgustingly mendacious MSM lied about her edict from the start.
Peaceful protest is NOT a crime in HK. She explained the mask ban as a counter to violent & destructive protesters seeking to hide their identity. It'll probably take a while for the truth to sink in...

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 7 2019 15:42 utc | 68

The result of Judicial Watch's FOIA lawsuit is a trove related to the beginnings of Russiagate revealing collusion between actors allied with the Current Oligarchy bordering on treason. Yes, there most certainly was a conspiracy as the documents reveal, with Mueller being seen as the right man to deliver the goods. And there's more to come from additional FOIA requests and suits. As I said earlier, Trump has the ultimate weapon of being capable of declassifying a huge cache of internal correspondence deemed secret only due to its sensitive political nature, not having a thing to do with national defense. IMO, Trump would be wise to request a Special Prosecutor to investigate Biden and Clinton as there's a landfill's worth of garbage already available in the public realm to put both away for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 7 2019 16:30 utc | 69

While on The Catholic Church. Related to Brexit.

BoJo is the first Catholic ever in UK history to be PM.

He was baptised Catholic, afaik never converted to C of E (or any other.) I presume he has no religious feelings or adherence at all.

The UK has had PM’s that were Sikh, Buddist, other. Still today, neither the Monarch, nor those in line to become so can be .. Catholic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_to_the_Crown_Act_2013

Meghan M. joined C of E to marry Harry, in a very Public Ceremony, just to make sure all OK. (She attended an Immaculate Heart High School.)

A Catholic PM advising the Queen about religous matters, ecclesiatical appointments for ex. is not permitted, accepted, what texts and laws..idk.. it is convention. Nonetheless limits Bojos' power.

Church and State are not fully separated in the UK, even if the ties have been greatly weakened over time.

Tony Bliar was a closet Catholic who converted right after he was out of office. (Wife Cherie is Catholic.)

Catholic World Report writes:

Rees-Mogg is just as unashamedly Catholic and conservative. He has six children, prays the rosary frequently and attends the Tridentine Mass (which his father had also favored, signing a petition to Pope Paul VI for its continued use alongside the reformed liturgy)…

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2019/07/29/the-unashamedly-catholic-and-conservative-jacob-rees-mogg/.

Posted by: Noirette | Oct 7 2019 16:53 utc | 70

"The UK has had PM’s that were Sikh, Buddist, other..."
Names, please?

Posted by: bevin | Oct 7 2019 16:59 utc | 71

sorry... my post was screwed up, I meant, MPs and not PMs..

Posted by: Noirette | Oct 7 2019 17:42 utc | 72

Tesla Smart Summons accidents - setting up for legal precedent setting:
Class actions? Direct suits against Tesla?
Class action suits seem unlikely given the fanatical Tesla owner set. Lawsuits from insurance companies, however...

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 7 2019 17:48 utc | 73

@ bevin | Oct 7 2019 15:34 utc | 68

In the end what we are left with is the doctrine that the bully prevails.

Just so. Sadly, it's an ancient principle among homo ferox, expressed in T.H. White's superb "The Once and Future King" as Might Makes Right.
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PS: HTML "U" tag listed under "Allowed HTML Tags" doesn't work. :(

Posted by: Ort | Oct 7 2019 18:03 utc | 74

I don't know about anybody else here, but when a U.S. Senator sends out a form letter to a constituent they shouldn't be telling big fat lies. There is no serious impeachment inquiry going on? You want to know the tell?

pogohere @33 pointed it out for any who read it -

The U.S. Constitution gives the House the sole power to impeach a federal official. Individual House members can introduce impeachment resolutions like ordinary bills, or the House could initiate impeachment proceedings by passing a resolution authorizing an inquiry.

The House Judiciary Committee, which has jurisdiction over impeachment proceedings, decides whether to pursue articles of impeachment against the accused official and can hold hearings to review the accusations. If the committee votes to approve articles of impeachment, the formal charges move to the full House for consideration.

Now ask yourself what committee Schiff oversees? Then ask yourself, why would his committee be running the inquiry. The answer has a lot to do with closed doors and the public's right to know.

Posted by: h | Oct 7 2019 18:19 utc | 75

With the ongoing war between Trump and the DNC, CIA, FBI, State Dept and now including the MIC (with his recent Syria move), reaching critical mass with Pelosi's supposed impeachment inquiry announce, there are two ideas which occupy my thoughts.

The first being purely academic (although it entertains me) is in regard the democratic debate coming up on the 15th of this month, How in the world are the moderators going to address the Biden/Ukraine issue without tanking the Biden campaign? I'm sure they will make the attempt. I did not ever think he would be successful, but I think any mention of Ukraine during the debate will be the final nail in his campaigns coffin. He was already falling behind before The Trump/Zelenski 'matter' (hehehe) became public knowlege.

Secondly, with Trump now seeming like he is going full speed ahead on keeping his campaign promises regarding the military, it is reasonable to assume that there is a plan B, should their impeachment effort fail. (Hint: it will.)
I think they have two options at this point. One is to have him assassinated, and the other is an attack on US something that would force him to commit to war.

Assassinating Trump would be very risky as the country is so divided and trust in the fbi,etc is a such a low that I think that would Trigger civil war and my imagination is not wild enough to even imagine how that would play out across the u.s. I doubt with a (capital D) that Trump supports would accept any investigation by FBI or any committee set up those in charge. Assassination would have to be live on TV with a clearly identifiable perpetrator to have a chance of being believed.

Option two would have to be a false flag bigger than 9/11, which got about 4k killed, so I think they would have to go bigger, much bigger like an NFL game or something similar (which manages to get 50-90k) in order to generate the rage and overcome the discord Trump supporters would be feel. They can't do another landmark because that has been done already, so they would opt for greater casualties to compensate.

Not trying to predict the future, but I don't trust those greedy fucks, and I just know they are not going to have their money be shut off without a fight.

b4real

Posted by: b4real | Oct 7 2019 22:43 utc | 76

b4real @ 77

Apologies for bad grammar and typo's. I neglected to proofread. Hope you get the gist.

b4real

Posted by: b4real | Oct 7 2019 23:03 utc | 77

@ b4real with the scenario's going forward......thanks, I got your gist just fine but they are depressing...sigh

And then on the 737MAX front there is this from Reuters

Southwest pilots sue Boeing for misleading them on 737 MAX

The take away quote
"
The lawsuit, filed in the District Court of Dallas County, Texas, alleges that Boeing “abandoned sound design and engineering practices, withheld safety critical information from regulators and deliberately misled its customers, pilots and the public about the true scope of design changes to the 737 MAX.”
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 8 2019 0:44 utc | 78

interesting speculation... Arab Paper: Al-Fagham Killed by MbS for Relaying Yemen War Intel to Saudi King

Posted by: james | Oct 8 2019 3:09 utc | 79

b4real @ 77

Re "Option two would have to be a false flag bigger than 9/11, which got about 4k killed, so I think they would have to go bigger, much bigger like an NFL game or something similar"

Making the rounds in re NFL game:

ALERT! November 3rd Predictive Programming "Event" in Seattle WA?

17:07

Posted by: pogohere | Oct 8 2019 4:54 utc | 80

Posted by: vk | Oct 7 2019 15:23 utc | 67

There is a lot Marxist theory does not explain. It would be surprising if a 19th century guy could forsee everything .Especially as he could not foresee his own influence - which was immense.

1. Keynes fixed capitalism by inventing "state investment" It works, see China. State investment depends on politics, therefore crisis.

2. Financial crisis caused by fraud has no role in Marxist theory.

2. Consumption does have a huge role, as a lot of people (most people in Western states) are beyond the restrictions of having to spend all their earnings to be able to live (at least if you live in a country with a decent healthcare system). If these people decide to stop buying, that's it. An immense amount of advertising is needed to get people to buy useless stuff. This is not the world Marx lived in.

3, People's life style, demographics, age, have a huge role ie are the scales of a society tipped towards consumption or unemployment. Marx has no theory re workers especially skilled work becoming scarce, which is the present point of development in a lot of states. A lot of states depend on immigration.

4. Marx has no theory for countries being able to defend their resources. His theory applies to 19th century imperialism and colonialism ie endless resources for a small group.

5. On the Marxist scale - Manchester capitalism - most states today are close to socialism ie people's life is free from economic necessities - humans just have not come to an agreement what they want from life. There have been some recent political experiments with Manchester capitalism they won't survive.

Posted by: somebody | Oct 8 2019 10:20 utc | 81

Picketty's new book seems interesting. He points out that currently China and Russia have lower taxation levels than the EU, just sayin'...
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/09/thomas-pikettys-new-magnum-opus-published-on-thursday

Posted by: Mina | Oct 8 2019 10:34 utc | 82

This hasn't been discussed much lately: Thousands of Indigenous Reach Quito, President Moves Seat of Gov't to Guayaquil

The fanbois for the Evil Empire like to crow about how the governments of countries with leftist movements are being taken over by the Empire's lawfare and other shady shenanigans. In their Risk board game style super simplified understanding of geopolitics, the Empire fanbois view this as decisive victory for the Empire.

I have tried pointing out that the Empire installing servile tools at the top of various state institutions in its imperial outlands does not lock those states into the Empire's orbit. The objective conditions in those states that led their populations leftward remain unchanged, so the leftward tendencies in those states remain. To keep those states in its sphere is a constant battle for the Empire, but the imperial attention span is not so good as it used to be.

The Empire thought installing the traitor Lenin Moreno in power Ecuador through subterfuge was clever, but Moreno is in trouble.

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 8 2019 11:10 utc | 83

Interview with the Special Representative of the President of Russia for Afghanistan on the Taliban.

Posted by: alaff | Oct 8 2019 12:24 utc | 84

For the first time on record, the 400 wealthiest Americans last year paid a lower total tax rate — spanning federal, state and local taxes — than any other income group:

The Rich Really Do Pay Lower Taxes Than You

[source: Michael Roberts' Facebook]

Posted by: vk | Oct 8 2019 14:42 utc | 85

Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 8 2019 11:10 utc | 85

Wow! That looks interesting! 20,000 is a lot of demonstrators. II wish them buckets and buckets of luck. If Moreno can get deposed that would be a major advance.

Posted by: BM | Oct 8 2019 15:13 utc | 86

The Rich Really Do Pay Lower Taxes Than You
Posted by: vk | Oct 8 2019 14:42 utc | 87

All the descendents of the Mayflower pay virtually no taxes anyway; the entire tax system is devised for elaborate avoidance schemes. They spend far more on their tax avoidance lawyers than they pay in taxes. One of them once told me he paid about $100 per year in taxes.

Posted by: BM | Oct 8 2019 15:19 utc | 87

@85 wg... thanks... really interesting and of course not on any msm outlet in the west...

Posted by: james | Oct 8 2019 16:43 utc | 88

I can't recall if I've provided the link to this short book/long essay by Hudson, THE LOST TRADITION OF BIBLICAL DEBT CANCELLATIONS in PDF format and 87 pages in total length. It's truly fascinating and informs us that the longstanding enemy of all but their own class is what I call The Moneypower, and which psychohistorian terms private finance. The roots of it all and how it was circumvented for centuries is well documented. But what's most impressive to me are the efforts taken to bake ongoing reform (if reform's the correct term) into religion and the customary law based upon it. Seldom can one get a scholarly work of this sort for free. Please take advantage and share how to obtain it with your own circles. IMO, all barflies would agree that the more people who learn about the history of the forces that oppress, cause wars and other sufferings while eating their free lunch the better.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 8 2019 20:10 utc | 89

@90 karlof1

Thanks! I have a couple of his books, check his website, etc but hadn't seen this before.

Posted by: spudski | Oct 8 2019 20:54 utc | 90

B, I just noticed the front page Banner re: Serena Shim Award Laureate for Uncompromised Journalism. Fair dues, well done. A champion effort everyday and so well deserved... it’s why we’re here.

Anyways, a fellow Serena Shim Laureate in Jimmy Dore was a guest on The Hill. Some classic Dore in there. A true progressive.

Jimmy Dore Rips Democrats On Impeachment (10mins)
https://youtu.be/fa0kDY4VE9c

Posted by: MadMax2 | Oct 8 2019 21:26 utc | 91

Karlof1 # 90

Thanks, will definitely read it, probably in next 24 hrs.
Thanks also for the Channelling comment, gave me a chuckle. I do find 'olde energies' have something to say ~ if we just find the space to stop and listen. I certainly feel we're heading south in a handbasket.

My offering for "essential everyone must read" would add:
https://mises-media.s3.amazonaws.com/thelaw.pdf

Posted by: dennis | Oct 8 2019 21:51 utc | 92

spudski @91--

Thanks for your reply! There's so much archived at Hudson's website that I haven't read!! I was searching for info on the 1914 banking crisis, 1914 also being the year the Fed was birthed. In the process, I came across a 4-year-old paper of his, "How the U.S. Treasury avoided Chronic Deflation by Relinquishing Monetary Control to Wall Street" wherein he prefaces:

"The Eurozone today is going into the same deflationary situation that the U.S. did under Jackson’s destruction of the Second Bank, and the post-Civil War budget surpluses that deflated the economy. But whereas the Fed’s creation was designed to inflate the U.S. economy, Europe’s European Central Bank is designed to deflate it — in the interest of commercial banks in both cases."

Woah!!!! And there's more to be gleaned from the sources he cites, particularly GE Griffin's 1994 The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve and the associated 1930 work by Warburg. We also learn more about the 1907 banking crisis that's briefly discussed in US history texts:

"In the wake of America’s 1907 financial panic, the Aldrich-Vreeland Act of 1908 created a 'National Monetary Commission … to inquire into and report to Congress at the earliest date practicable, what changes are necessary or desirable in the monetary system of the United States or in the laws relating to banking and currency …'[1] The Commission’s thirty-five monographs provided an exhaustive study of central banking structures and commercial banking policies, laying the groundwork for what in 1913 became the Federal Reserve Act.

"Money and banking textbooks typically portray the Act as modernizing the financial system “to correct certain serious shortcomings in the National Bank Act: to provide an elastic currency, efficient clearing, centralized reserves, readily available credit for banks, and unified control of the banking system.”[2] But David Kinley’s 1910 report (Kinley 1910) shows that the National Banking System had neither responsibility nor ability to steer the nation’s monetary course. Prior to 1913 the Treasury performed these functions, including open market bond purchases to provide the banking system with liquidity. It would be more accurate to view the Federal Reserve as shifting to Wall Street the financial power hitherto concentrated in the hands of the Treasury Secretary in Washington."

Hudson cites Kinley's report numerous times which IMO makes it a must read to understand the underlying context. Fortunately, it's available online here at what's one of the best archival sites I've discovered.

The extremely unfortunate amount of illiteracy regarding financial systems and their history that's rife amongst the global public is one reason why we're in our current predicament, and it's not like the books haven't been written and the entire affair's hidden. Rather, it's people don't realize the importance of it all because it's not at all stressed during K-12 education--the actions of the past are seldom connected to current issues affecting everyone, including students: Making the connections makes the past relevant and subsequently important to understand. And everything about the Fed and how the Moneypower rules the Outlaw US Empire and much of the world is rather important, IMO.

Thanks again spudski! Now you have even more to read!

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 8 2019 21:56 utc | 93

94 Cont'd--

Here's an item of interest related to the above I found while researching. A short, fascinating read.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 8 2019 22:14 utc | 94

@karlof1 re: economic literacy
The neolibs have all but banished all heterodox economic thought from university faculties in the west. There is only room for their gospel. The nature of the market does not work so rigidly however... systems should be flexible enough to reflect the flexibility inside human nature itself, so contrary thought should be appreciated overall. I think Russia and China have done well here, understanding the beast better than the bloated beast itself... little wonder Hudson is such a favourite guest in the latter.

As we await the inevitable crisis around the corner, one might come to believe these crisis are manufactured. How can one be so cocksure, yet so doomed to repeat the same failures...? QE5 to the rescue...!

Posted by: MadMax2 | Oct 8 2019 22:22 utc | 95

MadMax2 @96--

Thanks for your reply! It's something like Musical Chairs--The music stops, some are no longer eligible to participate, then the music begins again--and so it is with an ever inflating economy. Note that the bankers before 1914 were very disappointed at the continuing deflation caused by government fiscal & monetary policy along with Simon Patten's Economy of Abundance School of Thought. WW1 sparked inflation that was continued until the massive balloon explosion in 1929. WW2 sparked the next round, but there was better knowledge and tools to manage the inevitable Boom/Bust cycles. Indoctrination and the airbrushing of history resulted in the attempt to create TINA, but that's now bombed with the public although most of its practitioners still remain in power. Only corruption on a massive scale and immorality at the top layer of governments allow its continuance. But the public's in ferment to differing degrees within the West such that the equivalent of IMF Riots will begin to move beyond France and Greece. Have you followed the measures Sanders has promoted? The public's not dumb and can see the logic of their need.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 8 2019 22:42 utc | 96

dennis @93--

Thanks for your reply! Yes, that's an essential work I also found and posted to the bar earlier this year.

IMO, what would be helpful is a cinematic novel telling the tale of the Moneypower's rise and efforts over the centuries to keep its boot on the neck of the commonfolk. Tolkien's The Hobbit attempts to provide that but shrouds the tale such that the main point is most difficult to see. Lucas's Star Wars tells the tale of Empire but leaves out the economic aspects until the first prequel where it gets a brief and veiled airing. Herbert's Dune is too metaphoric. And the evil in Harry Potter has no relation to money whatsoever. The first Wall Street was excellent, as was Bulworth. The 1960s Spaghetti Westerns were very revealing metaphorically, but all too many missed their meaning and moral. IMO, most cinema since 2000 isn't worth the money and time to watch, but I know I'm very much in the minority. Why a movie? It has the potential to reach many more than any book and leave a greater lasting impression if done correctly.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 8 2019 23:04 utc | 97

@karlof1
Yeah familiar enough with Sanders to know he’s really advanced the progressive side of the DNC, he’s not really promoting socialism as his detractors would like us to believe. Pretty much a wind back of the capitalist clock to an old school redistribution of taxable wealth... going along with the debt jubilee theme above, his call for cancelling all student debt will be handy in freeing up all that energised human capital that otherwise just wiles time away as debt slaves will do a good bit too. I like Bernie, if he could just go all the way and call a spade a spade re: foreign policy, he could go about using a % of those trillions spent on military adventure, destabilising other countries and make changes pretty rapid.
‘Where you gonna get the money Bernie...?’
‘Easy... no more military adventure’


....
(His sheepdogging for Hilary is an aside but worth a footnote in parentheses)

Posted by: MadMax2 | Oct 8 2019 23:12 utc | 98

Cultural Imperialism--Basketball in China and the tweet by Huston Rocket owner Daryl Morey.

There may be a few other Basketball Joneses here besides myself, and its become an important international sport. Morey displayed massive ignorance and zero foresight when he sent the following tweet:

"Fight for Freedom, Stand with Hong Kong."

The following Global Times items IMO are measured and balanced, "US political correctness kills NBA's market in China", "NBA responds to Rockets GM Morey's Hong Kong tweet", "Chinese stars quit NBA event as Rockets' tweet incident ferments", and "More partners cancel cooperation with NBA". Compounding the problem are Outlaw US Empire-based writers who don't have the correct context either as in this example:

"It was a small gesture of support for the protesters fighting China’s incursion into the semi-autonomous region."

They're terrorists, not protesters as all sorts of evidence proves, and China hasn't made any "incursion" into HK whatsoever, rendering the writer just as mistaken as the NBA exec he's criticizing. But to be fair, he's not the only one, which is a measure of the propaganda's success in the matter.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 8 2019 23:34 utc | 99

@94 @95

karlof1, wonderful. I only wish I'd known about Hudson when I was studying economics - my supposedly left wing university phased out economic history and I only got a taste of it in one elective undergrad class. Among other things, I unwittingly taught the loanable funds model and mainstream macro to students many times. Now that I'm almost completely retired and no longer teaching, I know better. Thanks a lot for your generosity in providing good links. A ton sante.

Posted by: spudski | Oct 8 2019 23:35 utc | 100

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