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October 23, 2019

Open Thread 2019-61

For all the stuff your host doesn't manage to blog about ...

Posted by b on October 23, 2019 at 19:18 UTC | Permalink

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News on the OPCW and Douma:

See also Tim Heyward on this:

Posted by: Cherrycoke | Oct 23 2019 19:57 utc | 2

After one of the longest, bitterest negotiations ever held between President Vladimir Putin and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Russia’s Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov forced the Turks into an agreement for a Turkish military enclave inside Syrian territory between Tal Abiad and Ras Al-Ain (Sari Kani). That is less than one-quarter of the Syrian territory Erdogan was demanding at the start of the Sochi talks.

Posted by: Zedd | Oct 23 2019 20:42 utc | 3

Craig Murray’s report on the farcical yet deeply disturbing court appearance for Julian Assange should be as widely distributed as possible. Please share with colleagues and request they do the same.

Posted by: jayc | Oct 23 2019 20:44 utc | 4

Putin Urges Erdogan to Keep Commitments

The Russian-Turkish Memorandum confirms the legality of the Turkish "Operation Spring Peace" within a border area of 32 kilometers with the exception of the city of Qamishli. It makes no mention of US demands to shut down the northern land corridor linking Tehran to Beirut. Moreover, it does not set a deadline for the withdrawal of the Turkish army, which is now likely to impose a military occupation, as it has done in Cyprus and Iraq.

Posted by: Zedd | Oct 23 2019 20:48 utc | 5

Cyber Durden @1

That’ll be the day when justice will be served to anyone from the deep state. I am not holding my breath.

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Oct 23 2019 20:52 utc | 6

Cyber Durden @1

That’ll be the day when justice will be served to anyone from the deep state. I am not holding my breath.

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Oct 23 2019 20:52 utc | 7

Thank you for the link to Murray's report on the Assange court hearing. "Deeply disturbing" indeed. UK'ers should most definitely be disturbed that UK judges now take orders directly from US agents. From the article:

The campaign of demonization and dehumanization against Julian, based on government and media lie after government and media lie, has led to a situation where he can be slowly killed in public sight, and arraigned on a charge of publishing the truth about government wrongdoing, while receiving no assistance from “liberal” society.

Unless Julian is released shortly he will be destroyed. If the state can do this, then who is next?

(the article is also posted on

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Oct 23 2019 21:06 utc | 8

jayc @ 4

Agree and I don't understand why so many don't care.

Posted by: spudski | Oct 23 2019 21:11 utc | 9

Guatemala and Honduras along with US taxpayers are now supporting Juan Guaido and his "government" to the tune of at least US$41.9 million courtesy of USAID. The news comes courtesy of though The Los Angeles Times hit on it earlier.

The funniest part in the LATimes article must be this:
"... All of the money being diverted will go to Guaido and his faction, the memo said, to pay for their salaries, [airfares], “good governance” training, propaganda, technical assistance for holding elections and other “democracy-building” projects ..."

"Democracy-building" projects? Hanging out with prostitutes and boozing with members of drug-trafficking cartels: would these be part of Guaido's "democracy-building" efforts? Flying to Washington DC to watch a baseball game instead of attending a National Assembly meeting: is this an example of the "good governance" training that Guaido's fellow hucksters are receiving? This is not exactly the kind of propaganda that puts Guaido and his gang in a very good light.

The more news that emerges about Guaido, the more his real vocation becomes apparent: the man is a mediocre professional stand-up comedian with a taste for custard pies.

Posted by: Jen | Oct 23 2019 21:28 utc | 10

OFAC is ending the Turkish Sanctions.


Now will the US Comgress pass more Sanctions.

Posted by: Oz | Oct 23 2019 21:45 utc | 11

Another vote for the Craig Murrey article linked to @ 4.

Posted by: s | Oct 23 2019 22:01 utc | 12

that was on the previous open thread from a couple of days ago.. doesn't hurt to post it again @4 jayc..

@172 arby.. that is really heart breaking..craig murray has an article up on the same here...

Posted by: james | Oct 22 2019 15:59 utc | 173

Posted by: james | Oct 23 2019 22:04 utc | 13

Factions of World War III

1. CIA, Hillary Clinton, 'Rothschild-Octopus' money power. Altogether, British Israel (Zionism).

2. Pentagon-NSA, Donald Trump, second tier elites including, for example, Sheldon Adelson. Altogether, Israel (and the USA) First.

If these are the primary factions vying for control of the New World Order, why did HRC throw Tulsi such a honkin' big bone by calling her a Russian asset?

Clinton has endorsed Gabbard in the same way Catholicism endorses sin: ergo, there is a working agreement between all Globalist factions for a final settlement of WW3.

Or is there a better explanation for HRC's non endorsement endorsement of TG?

Should we also mention both are card carrying members of the Council on Foreign Relations?

Understanding we are ruled by a duopoly of 1st and 2nd tier elites is essential piecing together who represents whom - and what it means for the vast majority of humanity, which remains generally ignorant and utterly voiceless.

Class is everything, which is why both Globalizing tiers have agreed to, amongst other things, pretend we don't exist. Clinton threw Tulsi a bone so that Tulsi could throw us another, but it all counts for nothing when the bill for elite criminality comes due. Both factions agree that We the People, the unrepresented Third Estate, will be paying for everything.

Posted by: Zedd | Oct 23 2019 22:06 utc | 14

Regarding article @ 3: It does make sense that Erdogan had the leverage in his negotiation with Putin.

Russia's interest is in brokering peace and keeping its bases and influence in Syria/ME. It's not to openly antagonize Turkey economically or militarily. Therefore, Putin can state his commitment to a unified Syria free from foreign occupation as an aspirational goal, but can't demand it or force it to happen as things stand.

Posted by: s | Oct 23 2019 22:29 utc | 15

An introduction to fiat currency for beginners:

FX & Imperialism

Posted by: vk | Oct 23 2019 22:30 utc | 16

Zedd @14: ... why did HRC throw Tulsi such a honkin' big bone by calling her a Russian asset?


I wrote that here: Deep-State has chosen: Biden-Tulsi 2020

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 23 2019 22:47 utc | 17

Jen 10

A Trump Bolton project that will be the focus of attention again soon (MSM ect). US, no matter under Obama or Trump seem to keep just one project at a time in the headlines. During the lull though, new moves are prepared to be set in motion as soon as there is a lull in whatever other project is making headlines.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 23 2019 23:01 utc | 18

Thanks to b for this open thread as I was bemused by BM @ 28 on the previous thread. It wouldn't be in the Orthodox tradition at all that Jesus was in India during his lifetime, so I am not sure how to relate what you have put to my post. I wouldn't claim 'supreme wisdom' for the serpent in the Garden of Eden, nor does the text I was quoting. That the serpent was the wisest of created beings doesn't imply that, since he uses his wisdom in nefarious ways. So, sorry, BM, what I was thinking of there was my old bugaboo about mind without heart as a deficiency we do well to be wary of. Sorry I wasn't clear on that.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 23 2019 23:09 utc | 19

Still that was an informed reply regarding Christ’s time in India. I had read ParamansaYognanda’s interpretation of Christ’s experience and he had arrived at a similar understanding. So I enjoyed that post from the previous thread! Thanks!

Posted by: Geoff | Oct 23 2019 23:34 utc | 20

if motives can signal the future, the present convulsions in the US government signal that America has been taken over by the Zionists who populate all avenues of US power structures.

It is inconceivable that Trump who has been up to now catering to AIPAC and the Israeli lobbies and actors would be subjected to ignominy because he seems to want to abandon Syria. But. let's face it, Israel wants mayhem to engulf Syria, an ally of Iran and the Hezbollah.

American troops' withdrawal from Syria is seen as anathema by Zionists and Israeli likewise.
The Jewish interests can pull numerous strings in America to prevent this from happening. Trump is caught between a hammer and a nail. He wants to be reelected so he has to fulfill his promises
to his bases. Bring the troops home and all this nice stuff.

But his Israeli masters will make life difficult for him as long as he is not pandering to Israel's wishes.

There is a subtle game whereas the MSM assaults Trump but his actions are all in favor of his MSM detractors. Actor or puppet remains to be elucidated. No tax on the rich, Jerusalem, Golan Heights, the West Bank,, the Jordan Valley, all gifts to the criminal state of Israel.

And then, sanctions on China? If Trump wants to return the industrial jobs to America, he has to put tariffs on all imported goods, regardless of origin. Not only from Germany and China because they are successful exporters to America.

He would also have to put a stop on the expatriation of capital to other countries in view of reducing the ability of Wall Street to export jobs.

We do not see any of these actions from the WH so DJT is not the angel he wants to project himself to be.

For the time being, his orders of withdrawal are freeing some of the Syrian territories recently under US watch. The best thing for Syria is that it now has control over most of its territory.
much to the disgust of Israel.

I can see that Israel's greatest wish is to see a conflagration between Iran and the USA.
There will be more false flags until one is so painful that Israel will be destroyed.

The Samson option is anti-Jewish. Will Israel bomb The City, New York and other great congregations of Zionists?

Remains to be seen.

Posted by: CarlD | Oct 23 2019 23:37 utc | 21

Aaron Mate does an excellent interview with Jill Stein discussing Witchery Clinton's recent diatribe against Tulsi and Jill...

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Oct 24 2019 0:26 utc | 22

William Barr is associated with the Cabal all the way back to the assassination of JFK, he is CIA, he was part of the legal team that stole PROMIS for the US from its rightful owner (Inslaw) - PROMIS was the software that provided the backdoor into all those organisations that needed to be "directed" to enable 9/11, Barr is associated with 9/11 cover-up, drug running, in fact associated with so much that has gone wrong with the US over the last 50 years that it is ridiculous to believe that he will "sort" out the swamp for Trump. Barr almost certainly was involved in "suiciding" for "disappearing" Epstein. It is ridiculous to believe that Trump is not aware of all of this.

(I'm venting because these aspects of Barr are completely ignored and it's about time some light was shone in what are not really hard-to-find secrets about Barr.)

Posted by: ADKC | Oct 24 2019 0:27 utc | 23

Lavrov and Shoygu's press conference shortly after the signing of the Russia-Turkey memorandum of understating. Lavrov verbally pokes at the Outlaw Empire, and Shoygu uses some sarcasm. Quite informative with the Q&A segment ...

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Oct 24 2019 0:49 utc | 24

At the time of the JFK assassination, William Barr was 13 years old. Now, I suppose it's possible his father Donald Barr, the OSS veteran, was somehow connected to the assassination, but I believe at the time of the assassination he was teaching English literature at Columbia University. The next year, he became head of the Dalton School.

Posted by: Lysias | Oct 24 2019 0:54 utc | 25

Juliania @ 19, BM @ 28 (previous thread):

You will be astonished to discover that Jesus supposedly travelled a fair bit farther east of India.

Did Jesus Die in Ancient Japan?

Jesus in Japan: The Dodgy Documents that Reimagine Christ's Life

The Village in Japan Where they Believe Jesus Died (Youtube video)

At least the village of Shingo, located at the far northern point of Honshu island, gets a fair bit of tourism revenue to keep going.

Posted by: Jen | Oct 24 2019 1:09 utc | 26

Correction: From 1958 to 1964, Donald Barr headed the Columbia University Science Honors Program. CIA connection conceivable.

Posted by: lysias | Oct 24 2019 1:10 utc | 27

And while everyone is focused on Syria the US Fed just increased the overnight REPO window from $75 billion to $120 billion a day as detailed in the ZH link below

The Fed also increased the 2-week term REPO from $35 billion to $45 billion.

So the private banks are not lending to each other but instead are assuaging their fears by oversubscribing the 4 new POMO that started last week by factors of 4.3x, 4.8x, 5.5x and 5.9x...this is meant to add $60 billion a month "Permanently" to the Feds books and onto the backs of Americans...socializing the losses of the PRIVATE finance system

$120 billion of liquidity per day?! What is The Fed not telling us? We are being told the economy is just wonderful, right? Then why are we bailing out the private banks before the crash this time around?

And why can't I post a properly formatted HTML link c1ue, since you are so networking savvy?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2019 1:15 utc | 28

Military coup attempt imminent in Bolivia as Evo Morales makes a desperate call for resistance to the people:

Militares que planejaram golpe tentam consumá-lo em conjunto com oposição, afirma Evo

The argument the Bolivian right-wing is using is exactly the same the Brazilian one used after the 2014 results: election fraud. The vice-president of the Bolivian Supreme Electoral Court has already renounced in protest after the institution caved in to the pressure and suspended the publication of the results:

Vice-presidente do TSE da Bolívia renuncia e diz que resultados preliminares estão corretos

Evo Morales is much more fragile than Nicolás Maduro -- even though Bolivia's economy has been much better. The key here is that, in Latin America, every period of economic growth is destined to be followed by a period of economic crisis because it's impelled to follow the neoliberal model of development by the USA. The left-wing presidents are then forced to overcome this through straight up government spending in order to at least alleviate extreme poverty that ravages the subcontinent.

But the hardest challenge for the socialists in Latin America are its armed forces: after the 1950s, they were turned into American subsidiaries, each one with a military doctrine that focuses on fighting the "internal enemy" (i.e. the socialists). No Latin American military is able to fight a single conventional war, they are essentially glorified militarized police forces. Maduro has the FANB; Morales doesn't have the Bolivian Armed Forces on his side.

Let's wait and see how it evolves.


Meanwhile, neoliberalism rots. Bolsonaro already know his fate:

Bolsonaro diz que Brasil 'não está livre de problema do Chile' e defende 'endurecimento da lei'

It must be hard to realize, after years of hallucination and messianic complex, that you were just a disposable puppet of the Americans.

However, things are not so simple in Brazil: the majority of the Left is reactionary and pacifist; the Brazilian people has a high tolerance for misery, is very docile and doesn't have a curriculum of violent uprisings or revolutions. A Brazilian prefers to suffer in silence than having to risk his life for a greater cause and, since the 1960s, has an inexplicable fascination with the USA and everything American (Bolsonaro ran his campaign openly as the "Brazilian Trump").

Posted by: vk | Oct 24 2019 1:37 utc | 29

@p #28
Html markup language isn't networking.
Or are you now confusing that, too?

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 24 2019 1:38 utc | 30

My post @23 should more accurately have read "Barr is associated with the Cabal which is associated with the JFK assassination". However, Barr does have an involvement in the JFK cover-up - Barr helped frustrate the Church Committee investigation into CIA abuses (which included an investigation into JFK).

I'm no expert on Barr so I may get things a bit wrong but he clearly has questionable background and is being totally whitewashed. Anyone in a position to question a few inaccuracies on my part should be in a position to be aware of the wider more important questions about Barr.

Look into Barr and he is clearly of the swamp and another bizarre Trump appointment.

Posted by: ADKC | Oct 24 2019 1:39 utc | 31

Here's a cool image gallery about Soviet secularism:

Down with God! How the Soviet Union took on religion – in pictures

Posted by: vk | Oct 24 2019 1:40 utc | 32

If Eurasia, a large foreign holder of Oceania government bonds, were to liquidate the bulk of its holdings, would Oceania give money to its member banks to buy up all those bonds and thus prevent interest rates from rising dramatically and stawks from dropping precipitously (by sucking all the capital from no-yield unicorns to something that at least pays interest and guarantees return of principal)?

Posted by: oglalla | Oct 24 2019 1:40 utc | 33

VK @ 29: Thanks for the update on Bolivia. Any news on the situation in Ecuador? The last I heard was that Lenin Moreno was forced to move his government to Guayaquil away from Quito. Perhaps he is preparing to flee to the US if things don't turn out well for him?

Posted by: Jen | Oct 24 2019 1:50 utc | 34

@ c1ue who wrote
@p #28
Html markup language isn't networking.
Or are you now confusing that, too?
I have an up-to-date Mac mini and Opera and have not been able to post a correctly formatted link on this site for a number of days, but can everywhere else.

I consider that a networking issue and as I said in my original comment that you continue to misrepresent, I believe it is entirely possible that Cloudflare or Typepad have been compromised to make that occur based on my mac address (I assume you know what that is) and the fact that MoA is a controversial site.....packets are being dropped, clobbered or who knows what for sure.

Call me a conspiracy type now as well, I really don't care.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2019 1:54 utc | 35

ADKC @31: Look into Barr and he is clearly of the swamp and another bizarre Trump appointment.

Yup. But almost normal for Trump because he's also brought in people like Pence, Haspel, and Bolton.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Oct 24 2019 1:55 utc | 36

Google has now published in Nature what is essentially the same paper as the previously retracted paper (both are "Quantum supremacy using a programmable superconducting processor"). In other news IBM is whining and handwaving about IBM not writing a similar paper :P

What it means: all that's left for full-on quantum (super-)computing is engineering, not science, and the engineering consists of scaling. Let's say as much as three years (but it's hard to imagine it isn't already the case in secrecy).

Quantum processors aren't made by hand which means they could crank out as many as they want if they think it is useful, feel free to look at the picture of the actual quantum processor in the actual paper (not unrelated pictures and "imaginations" elsewhere). There's been talk about Google already having "unofficial" 72-qubit versions.

Add parallelism (externally controlled, no changes need to the quantum processor) and the fact that cooling isn't quite as hard or difficult as it might seem and you can bet on plenty of these already being hard at work since well before this paper was submitted this last summer.

For real world applications (not academia) it is extremely simple: if the result works it works.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 24 2019 2:02 utc | 37

An excellent, in-depth analysis of what what just happened in Syria.

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Oct 24 2019 2:04 utc | 38

@ c1ue.. you aren't doing yourself any favours making comments like that.. posters note shit like that..

Posted by: james | Oct 24 2019 2:16 utc | 39


It doesn't matter how much the monetary musical chairs are moved by the men high up in the central banking clouds, when the real economy is failing for the vast majority of us: A deluge of cheap superfluous stuff that we already have too much of, but yet the stuff that we do need to survive like housing are becoming ever more unaffordable every passing day.

The smartphone revolution happened just in time to save the global economy from the 2008 crash, and there's is nothing of equivalent in the works as far as I can see that will save us from the next economic meltdown.

Posted by: JW | Oct 24 2019 2:34 utc | 40

For those interested in AG Barr, here's some history that might shed some light on why DJT picked him for AG..

Posted by: ben | Oct 24 2019 2:35 utc | 41

pl saying what i was saying about graham on the other thread..

"This morning, on said Fox Business News with Charles Payne, Keane was even clearer and stated specifically that if "Syria" tries to cross the river they must be fought.

IMO he and Lindsey Graham are raving lunatics brainwashed for years with the Iran obsession and they are a danger to us all. pl"

link here..

Posted by: james | Oct 24 2019 2:38 utc | 42

@8 Trailer Trash

Indeed Orwell's "1984" referred to the UK as "Airstrip One" and this Brexit fiasco surely proves that Outside Influences not only run the Judiciary when necessary, but also plant poison on doorknobs when it suits them.

The ever servile Australian government to the empire du jour does nothing to honor their passport pledge. We would have to assume it qualifies as Orwell's "Airstrip Two"

In contrast to Assange's predicament (and Manning I assume), the main point of this post is to mention the recent Joe Rogan interview of Edward Snowden (touting his book) --

Nearly three hours of mostly Snowden rambling on. I stayed with it to the end. A few items of interest but mostly just noise. I found him initially somewhat suspicious -- by the end I was more neutral. However, what a display of American arrogance and ingratitude. The Russian government has saved his bacon and has given him refuge with great freedoms he would not have in the USA -- or Airstrip One ... or, HK, or any South American backyard colony. And yet he makes no attempt to thank them and even virtually panders to the American anti-Russian meme. He has even dabbled in Russian opposition politics via local newspaper comments. What an ungrateful guest! (Or still an agent @ work?) I would entirely understand the Russians putting him on a plane back to the USA tomorrow. Ungrateful little character, imo. And says a lot about the way Americans treat the external world from inside their little fishbowl. Simply a doormat for convenience.

The main take away for me came towards the end where Snowden outlines the special legal conditions and laws that the US government enforces to control presentation of evidence in these cases. These same 'servant' thugs who are stepping into the now 3rd-world UK court system and pulling the strings on Australia's Assange. The same crew that Snowden worked with and blew the whistle on (apparently).

Snowden makes great bravado about being willing to go back to the USA and face the music -- if only he could say in court why he did it (something the legal Act prohibits apparently). In this, and a few other matters of history, I find him less than genuine. Is/was he a plant? .... I'm still out with the jury on that.

Posted by: imo | Oct 24 2019 2:42 utc | 43

@29 vk

Pepe Escobar presents a high-altitude view of Latin America in general in this regard. Neoliberalism is over in that continent - and there is a LOT of ground-level intention to overthrow the whole rule of plunder, in several countries:

Burn, Neoliberalism, Burn

Naomi Klein made the same observation a few years ago, that South America was the first region to suffer from the Shock Doctrine, and has become the leader in recognizing it and fighting against it.

Not to say we have a done deal yet, but it seems to be an organic work in progress. And your reports are very sobering. There will be much fire before the burning is finally done, it seems. But my only point is that maybe the economic cycle of expand and collapse that you cite is not inevitable. Maybe countries can break out of it.

Escobar's piece was linked in an earlier thread and I assume you've seen it already. It's pretty sobering too but it paints a future of possibility.

Posted by: Grieved | Oct 24 2019 2:51 utc | 44

43. Whatever Latin America does to it's 'neoliberal rule of plunder' I will bet you 100 pesos that whatever comes after it, out of the 'genius' of street protest, it will look more like Venezuela than .... you see? I can't even come up with a good example of South American societal order. What you have there is a continent that has not even begun to understand how deeply embedded in their collective consciousness their 'oppressed' mentality is. And with good reason. Shit history. But no way is there the enlightened thought capable of building a nation state that can stand the test of time. 100 pesos.

Posted by: Jezabeel | Oct 24 2019 3:39 utc | 45

Below is a ZH link to the lying NYT about b's posting regarding Hillary saying that the Russians were grooming Tulsi......they have changed the story to say that the Republican's are grooming Tulsi...the NYT is not even safe for the bottom of bird cages.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2019 3:44 utc | 46

I second jayc’s call to MoA readers to share Craig Murray’s article on Assange as widely as possible. We should also ask Jimmy Dore, Aaron Maté, Kyle Kulinski, and Lee Camp to cover the story in their shows.

Posted by: S | Oct 24 2019 3:58 utc | 47

In contrast to the $120 billion/day, $45 billion 2-week and $60 billion/month liquidity limits of the US Fed is the short posting below about China's recent injection of $8.49 billion for a 1-week period

BEIJING, Oct. 24 (Xinhua) -- China's central bank pumped 60 billion yuan (8.49 billion U.S. dollars) into the financial system Thursday.

The People's Bank of China injected 60 billion yuan into the market through seven-day reverse repos at an interest rate of 2.55 percent.

With no reverse repos maturing Thursday, this led to a net injection of 60 billion yuan.

A reverse repo is a process in which the central bank purchases securities from commercial banks through bidding, with an agreement to sell them back in the future.

China keeps its prudent monetary policy "neither too tight nor too loose" while maintaining market liquidity at a reasonably ample level in 2019.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2019 3:59 utc | 48

I am going to add another Xinhuanet short posting below about October 24th being United Nations Day and trust it won't violate b's posting parameters

BERN, Switzerland, Oct. 22 (Xinhua) -- Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi said here on Tuesday that the United Nations (UN) should become the main platform to practice multilateralism.

Answering a question during a joint press conference with Swiss Minister of Foreign Affairs Ignazio Cassis in Bern, Wang said that Oct. 24 (United Nations Day) is the annual day to mark the founding anniversary of the United Nations, adding that Switzerland is an important venue of multilateral institutions such as the United Nations and the World Trade Organization (WTO).

He said that it is of special significance to be here to recall the original intention of the establishment of the United Nations, as well as the original ideals and aspirations related to that institution, and to adhere to peace.

The United Nations was founded after the painful lessons of World War II, and has played an indispensable role in safeguarding world security and stability, Wang said.

Noting that unilateralism and power politics are on the rise in the world, Wang said the authority and status of the United Nations are being challenged as never before.

United Nations Day offers an opportunity to review the purposes and principles of the UN Charter, Wang said, while urging countries to abide by the basic norms of international relations, unite against unilateralism and bullying, and safeguard the status and authority of the United Nations.

The United Nations should become the main platform to practice multilateralism, Wang said.

"We shall work together to meet various challenges. The United Nations should become the main channel for the peaceful settlement of hot issues, and settle disputes through dialogue and consultation. The United Nations should be the main driving force for the development of human society and actively promote the implementation of the (UN) 2030 Sustainable Development Agenda," Wang added.

He said that the United Nations should keep pace with the times and constantly reform and improve itself. Considering that most of the member countries that joined the United Nations after World War II are developing countries, the United Nations should respect the stances of developing countries and safeguard their legitimate rights and interests.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2019 4:13 utc | 49

What should I know about protests in Lebanon?

Posted by: Charles Peterson | Oct 24 2019 4:48 utc | 50

@23 ADKC It's still uncommon to see details of PROMIS's abilities posted, and a lot of out there is deliberate disinfo, clouding its mysterious method of data relay.

@45 psychohistorian It sounds as if you are awake to the fact you may well be a targeted individual, 19 million in the country and growing by means originating from the very software mentioned earlier. A telling experiment could be to create a link to something counter to your sources & viewpoints, say a MSM article pushing an accepted narrative. If you are then able to markup and use such html, it might make for some uncomfortable realities and increased paranoia. Realizing you aren't necessarily on the list for posting here or anywhere or for any other action you've undertaken in your past and up to this point but rather due to future scenarios possibilities and actions based either on "their" knowledge of future events, your genetic makeup, or "them" having not created the list entirely themselves but having had it provided to them by a group seemingly with a far better understanding of our dimensional reality.

Posted by: NJH | Oct 24 2019 6:10 utc | 51

So many events happening that the ousting of the late spanish dictator from his pharaohnic burial site is going unnoticed by the international media, for the time being anyway.... champagne will be in high demand today all over Spain.

Posted by: Paco | Oct 24 2019 8:29 utc | 52

I'm currently residing in Bolivia where there is an attempted "color revolution" taking place.

Does anyone have any information that's not being reported in the MSM in Bolivia (a lot of people here watch CNN Español)?

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Hello | Oct 24 2019 10:21 utc | 53

Hello @54:

Here is the Reuter's version at the moment:

Bolivia's Morales set to win outright as disputed vote count nears completion

Delays during the count following Sunday’s election, and a sudden shift in fortunes in Morales favour fanned tensions, resulting in protests and marches in the main cities of one of South America’s poorest countries.

On Wednesday evening, with the counting almost done, hundreds of flag-waving opposition supporters kept up their protest outside the electoral building in La Paz, chanting and setting off fireworks.

At around midnight in Bolivia, the official count showed Morales, who has governed landlocked Bolivia for almost 14 years, had 46.77% of the vote with just over 98% of ballots counted - putting him 10 points ahead of main rival Carlos Mesa.

Paco @53: as long as he is somewhere convenient to use as a toilet.

Richard @52: the word is "henchmen", vassals of one plutocrat or another. "Tool" works well too.

Charles Peterson @50: Not much that I can see at the moment. Here is Fisk on the subject: he lives there, new article about it:

In other news did you know that Russia has bumper crop of wheat this year:

GRAINS-Wheat extends gains on strong demand, tightening supplies

Russia Upholds Wheat, Grain Forecast for 2019

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 24 2019 11:32 utc | 54

South Korean growth slows to 0.4% on quarter

This was even lower than the "experts" forecast of +0.5%. To make things even worse, those +0.4% only happened because of government massive spendings.

Government spending is good for the economy when your nation has a socialist system (e.g. China) because, in the socialist system, the government is under direct popular control and is the owner of the major means of production. Therefore, government spending means investment.

But South Korea is not a socialist nation, but a capitalist one. In a capitalist nation, rising government spending is a bad symptom of general failure of the private sector to deliver. The government is not the owner of any means of production, so the only way out for its spenditures is to give the money directly to the people and/or the business owners and pray for the system to regulate itself.

The system won't do it because profitability in South Korea is secularly declining. Profit is what drives investment in the capitalist system, not human necessity or welfare.

When I was a kid, my colleagues asked my Geography teacher why wasn't South Korea considered a "First World nation". After all, it looks like Japan, it walks like Japan, it sounds like Japan, it smells like Japan and it shits like Japan -- therefore it must be Japan!

Well, here's the answer to their question: a bitch is a bitch, no matter the glamour, and South Korea will serve as collateral damage in the China-USA-Japan trade war.

Posted by: vk | Oct 24 2019 11:57 utc | 55

Brother Erdo intends to make atomic explosive gizmos? Naw!

Actually it seems well reasoned.

This caught my eye...maybe I missed the announcement.

(from French: "According to some sources, Turkey may have already acquired centrifuges for uranium enrichment in the "nuclear black market".

Erdoğan's announcement that Turkey wants to become a nuclear power..."

You get the idea.

"Erdoğan veut la Bombe, par Manlio Dinucci" (voltaire [dot] net

Well, Edro doesn't wanna be the only guy at the party who doesn't have a beer...

Posted by: Walter | Oct 24 2019 12:56 utc | 56

Sometimes Spain is a mystery to me.

On "digging up" Franco it's difficult to imagine a better way to disturb sleeping dogs and inflame fools of all kinds in all directions. My bias is that I'm not keen on any of the four main sides from back when it started all of whom were busy competing in making anyone else look better :( (stupidest civil war ever? I couldn't honestly defend any of the four main sides).

It's also quite curios considering how the current self-proclaimed "left"-something government of Spain treats various parts of Spain somewhat similar to how Franco did (which is also stupid).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 24 2019 13:12 utc | 57

Assange’s imprisonment was a total farce right from the start, the events in Sweden were a pure stich-up. Murray was surprised at his treatment, deterioration, I was as well.

Anders Breivik, who killed 77 ppl, came to mind. He has been admitted to Oslo University, to study Political Science. Remotely - he has no contact with staff, other students, communicates through a prison officer, link. I also read he has three cells for himself, bedroom, office, and an exercise room. Fine food, med care, and plenty of guards, etc. to chat to. His max. sentence is 21 years (?) one supposes he might be released soon. ... Not critisising the Norwegian justice system, that's another topic.

Jens Stoltenberg was the Norway PM at the time of the Breivik Utoya-Oslo massacre. Paraphrase, memory, he stated All of Norway / Norvegians were attacked, our democracy was attacked … Worst atrocity since WW2.. etc. etc.

Result? From 2011 (Breivik) defense spending rose sharply (link.)

Breivik killed and maimed 70 or so young pll and furthered the cause of the MIC. Assange exposed /*some*/ US war crimes and became an enemy of the Clinton machine over the leaked e-mails. (Plus other, getting too long.)

Independent judiciary is a masquerade. And for UK readers, what about the “killer” of Jill Dando, exonerated, or the conviction of Ian Huntley?

Posted by: Noirette | Oct 24 2019 15:12 utc | 58

Almasdar News has been hacked. The pages open into porn sites. Apparently the borg doesn't like what they are reporting.

Posted by: m | Oct 24 2019 15:23 utc | 59

#56 vk

SK like Taiwan is too overly economically dependent on bleeding edge semiconductor manufacturing since it's the only industry they have that still has a competitive edge over their China and Japan peers, but semiconductors are now at a tail-end phase where cost is exponentially rising while the products are offering less and less marginal utility onto most of the existing user base, which kills overall profitability. To add insult to the socioeconomic injury, this industry is also incredibly capital intensive and highly automated: Most of the profits goes to the capitalist class while the rest gets scraps.

Posted by: JW | Oct 24 2019 15:25 utc | 60

Never mind the lat post about Almasdar. Seems those guys are on top of it. Fixed now.

Posted by: m | Oct 24 2019 15:48 utc | 61

A fuller explanation of my 'erudition' on the wisdom of the serpent can be found in the following:

"...If Solzhenitsyn is right, and, there remains, even in hearts overwhelmed by evil, a bridgehead of good, then there are realities that follow. I believe that Solzhenitsyn is correct. Accepting this means thinking carefully about what we mean when we say “good” and “evil” in the human context. The Fathers of the East generally conflated goodness, truth, and beauty as aspects of authentic and true being. Evil, on the other hand, is only ever a perversion of what is good, true and beautiful – it has no existence (being) in itself...Nothing that we describe as evil is ever utterly and completely evil (as troubling as that thought might be}..."

Posted by: juliania | Oct 24 2019 16:11 utc | 62

Assange is getting his day in kangaroo court

Posted by: Copeland | Oct 24 2019 16:21 utc | 63

@62 Damn....missed it....was the porn any good?

Posted by: dh | Oct 24 2019 16:28 utc | 64

I am very much on the side of the 'free Assange' movement, and I would recommend to everyone the following site:

wendyedavis is an industrious blogger. She has done a service in posting a twitter video taken of Assange as he was leaving the court hearing in a van. Bear in mind that in order to film it the photographer had to use a very bright light. I was better informed by this video than by the accounts of his appearance in court, accurate though I am sure they have been. I do think, however that this is an important adjunct to the Craig Murray piece, and I agree with comments that much attention needs to be paid to his imprisonment. Back in the day, my daughter told me that in an oppressive regime, attention being paid to those incarcerated often is what saves them. And clearly this is an unjust incarceration.

Posted by: juliania | Oct 24 2019 16:30 utc | 65

Posted by: imo | Oct 24 2019 2:42 utc | 43

...the main point of this post is to mention the recent Joe Rogan interview of Edward Snowden (touting his book) --

There is a video version of the podcast on YouTube: Joe Rogan Experience #1368 - Edward Snowden

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Oct 24 2019 17:08 utc | 66

@p #35
Your issue has nothing to do with networking. More likely, something to do with Opera. Another common possibility is if you're composing your posts in Word or some word processor, and the cut/paste to MoA is inserting extra chars.
Use wireshark or something similar to look at what actual traffic is getting sent out. Opera or possibly some other browser app or program is likely inserting funny characters where they shouldn't be.
Another easy way to test is just install Firefox and see if you have the same problem.
As for packet interference: the notion that Cloudflare or Typepad are interfering just with the links you post, even assuming they have deployed the technology to inspect and change the packets (data in transit, Cloudflare) or are changing content (data at rest) - is extremely unlikely. Motive is conspicuously lacking.

China is able to do so with WeChat because it was architected from the ground up to do so.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 24 2019 17:08 utc | 67

@james #39
Its a good thing I don't actually care about public opinion, then, isn't it?
I don't bother commenting on a lot of stuff - most of the Never Trumper nonsense, the Syria details, etc because I know full well that I have nothing to contribute.
On the other hand, if people are going to challenge me in areas which I do know well, I will respond in kind.
You might review some of the originating posts, in the other thread, which p started and then imported to here.

Posted by: c1ue | Oct 24 2019 17:12 utc | 68

Not to be forgotten is also Craig Murray's essay/reportage on the Dawn Sturges inquest.



Lies and violence are a pair, it seems

Posted by: Walter | Oct 24 2019 17:23 utc | 69

I wrote the following in reply to the comment I made at The Saker's latest assessment of events in Syria which I thought I'd share here. Clearly, the UN will continue to be THE venue for global relations, so understanding the reasoning and the events and politics related to its inception ought to be considered an important field of study but within the Outlaw US Empire the opposite happens to be the rule--all that's barely studied for what become obvious reasons when one digs just a bit below the surface.

You are somewhat correct in your assessment, but the reality it far more complex and convoluted. Recall that the "UN Charter grew out of the Atlantic Charter and FDR's 4 Freedoms: "Adherents to the Atlantic Charter signed the Declaration by United Nations on 1 January 1942, which was the basis for the modern United Nations." Greater understanding of the contemporary mindset can be attained by studying the San Francisco Conference where the final draft of the Charter was made, and 1944's Dunbarton Oaks Conference where the initial drafting of the Charter was done. Almost all of this very important history is skimmed over at best in standard US History texts--even at the college level.

As might be imagined, there was no way for the USA to not ratify something it was a core member in constructing as the political fallout would've been massive. But as I noted in my comment, the Charter totally hamstrung the USA's normal modus of operation which was 100% unilateral and had been since its inception. Critics of those wanting to keep what unilateralism promoted--America First--were accused of wanting to isolate the nation from the world by not acting in concert with other nations which was the primary argument against ratification of the Versailles Treaty and entry into the League of Nations that embodied Wilson's 14 Points. To discover FDR's stance, one needs to closely look at his actions during his time as Assistant Secretary of the Navy from 1913-19 where his outspoken Internationalism can be discerned--a stance that was heavily questioned during the 1932 presidential campaign since an America First stance was demanded by the times as then it was greatly presumed that the reasons for the Depression all originated in Europe and the USA was a victim, which was completely wrongheaded as we know today.

And there's much more to contemplate. The actors in the 1934 failed Coup were never arrested by FDR and many wormed there way into the government prior to and during WW2. Some comprised the key D-Party actors that circumvented Wallace's 1944 renomination for Veep and promotion of Truman, and also had their hands on the writing of the legislation made to circumvent the UN Charter--1947 National Security Act that created the CIA and NSA. As I allude to above, this history isn't deeply looked into at all despite its level of importance.

The Outlaw US Empire began its operations even before the ink was dry on the UN Charter as it began turning captured Gestapo and SS into its own spies and terrorists to infiltrate and destabilize the Soviet zone in Germany, Eastern Europe and the USSR itself. Kolko's essential Politics of War details the development of Cold War policy while WW2 was ongoing thus providing proof that crucial policy was being developed and implemented that went against FDR's vision of the future and the stated aims of the war as linked to above.The forces responsible for that I call the Current Oligarchy since its members change over time but continues its anti-Self-government position which arose after the Civil War, while others call it the Deep State. The Outlaw US Empire's crimes are worse than that of Hitler's Germany and Tojo's Japan combined, and they continue on a daily basis. Yes, it's quest to attain Full Spectrum Dominance just ended in Syria, but there are those who believe that didn't occur, that there's still an opportunity, the most obvious being Hillary Clinton, the DNC Corporation and the gaggle of R-Party identifying neocons. But what cannot be omitted is the functional ideology they operate under--Neoliberalism--and to get a handle on that and how it's all worked since 1945, one must read Dr. Michael Hudson's Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire, which you can download for free at the link.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2019 17:24 utc | 70

Putin humor example is offered by the linked item. The expression on Lavrov's face in the stilled video capture is excellent and one which should grace his biography! Oh, the article does convey some useful info, too.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2019 17:39 utc | 71

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 24 2019 2:02 utc | 37
(Google's Quantum Supremacy computer)

Thanks for the link to the Nature article.
IBM has disputed Google's claim to have solved a 10,000 year puzzle in in 3.3 minutes. According to IBM, their best conventional supercomputer can solve the same (well-known) puzzle in around 2.5 days.
Source: News.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Oct 24 2019 17:40 utc | 72

What we don't know won't hurt us? . . .Once a daily occurrence in previous administrations, State Department press briefings went down to weekly under President Trump, then monthly, and now. . .the most recent press briefing was September 12, seven weeks ago here. The White House and Pentagon situations are similar.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2019 17:44 utc | 73

The first Russia-Africa Summit was a big hit; too bad its events were overshadowed by those in Syria. Here's its website. As reported here, the Summit formalized the overt adherence of all the attendants to Russia's political goal of elevating the UN's importance through the issuance of this Declaration which again emphasizes the following:

"committed to the fundamental principles and purposes of the UN Charter and norms of the international law, as well as emphasizing the need for their strict compliance by all States,

"expressing firm intention to fully contribute to achieving international peace and security and to building a more just and equitable system of international relations based on the principles of respect for sovereignty, territorial integrity, non-interference in internal affairs of States, preservation of national identity and civilizational diversity,..."

It should be noted that a very small minority of nations have yet to agree--again--to what were their previous commitments, and that those nations are responsible for most of the world's strife. and maldevelopment.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2019 18:14 utc | 74

Nice article by Thierry Meyssan:

Posted by: Alpi | Oct 24 2019 18:26 utc | 75

imo@43 While I haven't listened to the whole 3 hours in the first hour or so he does describe how the Bush executive branch lied to, misled, and blackmailed congress into maintaining cover for its illegal surveillance operations and then got them retrospectively legalized when they were exposed by the NYT reporter (story withheld until after Bush's reelection). He also describes the NSA and CIA as operating behind a wall of "TOP SECRET" designations for all their activities, and how they operate at the behest of the executive branch. He also describes the contractor mentality and how the system is such a cash cow that employees much prefer to feather their nests than to risk their jobs, and the ubiquitous greed of the firms producing useless junk for big bucks.

These are important points not to be forgotten, as the system is still in place and has only grown more corrupt and bloated since 2013. It also shows how the press has been completely captured by the system, and only acts to reinforce the status quo, as the dirty truth has been in the public domain for more than a decade (Since Iraq WMD)and Snowden's revelations only added detail and extent, yet we are consistently asked to take the words, suggestions, and innuendos of the professional lying class as TRUTH.

He (Snowden) appears to wish to return to the States and thus has likely been advised not appear grateful or overtly friendly toward his hosts. His take on 9-11 seems quite superficial.

For those interested in viewing the interview

Posted by: the pessimist | Oct 24 2019 18:41 utc | 76

There was low turnout for the Afghanistan presidential "election" held on September 28th, about twenty percent, but even with fewer ballots to count there has been no announcement of the "election" result. But that's not surprising, we never got an account of the last "election" in 2014, after which the US decided that two candidates should share national "leadership."
Actually Afghanistan is a mountainous tribal country full of illiterate people who can't imagine somebody in far-off Kabul having any influence upon their lives except to collect taxes.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2019 18:41 utc | 77

Julian Assange--- The fact that the state can so openly do what they are doing to this man demonstrates to me that the Borg, Deep State, whatever one wants to call it is still in charge completely and in your face about it. They do not give a shit what we think about it.

Posted by: arby | Oct 24 2019 18:55 utc | 78

VP Pence has railed that "China has increased its interventions in Hong Kong" here but actuall there haven't been any such. Hong Kong in an autonomous ex-UK colony experiencing violent protests against Hong Kong, not China. In fact China has acceded to HK autonomy and not interceded.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2019 18:59 utc | 79

Below is a link to the most recent posting at Ellen Brown's web site which I learned a lot from reading and encourage others to as well

As I continue to write about here and is supported by the Ellen Brown posting, there is an international cabal of private finance folks that continue to screw the public in the Western world.

I also contend that we are in a civilization war right now because China and others refuse to go along with the private finance modus operandi.

The sooner the public learns the details and history about this perfidy, the quicker we can evolve to a more equitable form of social organization.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 24 2019 19:15 utc | 80

Noirette @59

Breivik killed and maimed 70 or so young pll and furthered the cause of the MIC.
That was a false flag in my opinion, complete with crisis actors outside the government building that was bombed to pieces. 22/7 (22. July) was our 9/11. There were reports of multiple shooters at Utøya (labour party youth summer camp). The day before the young labour aspiring politicians demonstrated with a big banner in favour of boycotting Israel, the next day the bombing and shooting happened. Obviously there was a police terror exercise training for the exact scenario nearby on the same day, but of course the training didn't help.

Stoltenberg promised "more democracy" the following day and soon after became the NATO general secretary.

The word quisling comes to mind. After all Quisling was a norwegian politician.

Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 24 2019 19:39 utc | 81

The Valdai Club Paper, "Economic Integration in the Middle East: Problems and Prospects," is now available here to read or download. The Club has also produced a paper related to the just concluded first ever Russia-Africa Summit that can be read or downloaded here.

Given the current context, the first paper should have many readers.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2019 20:25 utc | 82

Jackrabbit #36 and AKDC

Trump is the new swamp. He is only draining the critters he hates and adding critters he likes. Out go the toads and in go pirahna.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 24 2019 20:27 utc | 83

@Walter #57

Apparently smuggled Californium has been intercepted in Turkey 2 times over the last several years, which is necessary for making a bomb, I have read, and is only prodced by the US and Russia. Not sure it's Erdogan that's importing it; or the Turk Deep State(s) which back or oppose him; or someone else attempting to implicate The Red Caliphate and/or Russia.

Posted by: Zedd | Oct 24 2019 20:31 utc | 84

@ ut 84
Trump is the new swamp

Let's see, the last time I saw perfection was . . .I can't remember.
So I'll settle for no new wars, no ground combat. That's a real improvement.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 24 2019 20:32 utc | 85


I was interested in Snowden's take on 9 11 soo watched that part of the interview.
Comes across as what he saw from the inside as an 18 year old just starting off in the so called intelligence community. I have thought that just a few at the top where in on 9 11. That CIA and NSA
cleared their buildings at a time when they should have been looking into everything further reinforces that veiw.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 24 2019 20:53 utc | 86

Anybody know what gives with Has been offline for several days, undergoing "maintenance". Have they been hit again?

Posted by: Red | Oct 24 2019 21:06 utc | 87

Trump OKs $4.5 Million for Al-Qaeda-Linked White Helmets

Posted by: Rolf | Oct 24 2019 21:15 utc | 88

@70 karlof1.. of course understanding history with regard to world events, is very important.. i happened to read margaret macmillans book - paris 1919..

it set the stage for what came later during the 40's as you note in your post.. what is generally not recognized in the west is the antagonism that was already in place with regard to russia, thanks the bolshevik movement that was happening during that time in russia.. reading macmillans account of how the west botched this dynamic with russia while simultaneously wanting to contain russia is well worth learning about in so far as one can see this pattern repeated from that time onward.. thanks for your post..

Posted by: james | Oct 24 2019 21:16 utc | 89

@psychohistorian #28
Was having a problem creating proper URL links here. I am familiar with html and even used the example link but all were malformed. I then deleted cookies in my browser( note you will have to sign in again to all your favorite sites) and all is well now. I believe that somehow a cookie is being set that is causing the problem.

Posted by: Stever | Oct 24 2019 21:30 utc | 90

Stever @91: Yeah, cookies, I never keep cookies, I'd try cleaning the Moon cookie(s) and see if that helps.

Posted by: Bemildred | Oct 24 2019 21:50 utc | 91

Fascinating pro-Tulsi video from right-wing commentator

Fighting for free speech for all, a right-wing Youtube commentator goes to bat for Tulsi Gabbard (whom he does not support politically) against Youtube's blocking of her ads, and provides from his own recent tussles with Youtube the first-ever proof that Youtube is not controlled by algorithms, but that human Youtube employees can and do block or unblock users' content in a matter of seconds.

This is some really blockbuster content!

NOTE: there might be some five minutes or so of “dead air” content to scroll through before the actual program begins. There was when I clicked on it, but it might have been deleted since then.

Posted by: AntiSpin | Oct 24 2019 22:16 utc | 92

James @90--

Thanks for your reply! You may recall the scandal that erupted not too long ago when it was revealed that NSA eavesdropped on all UN diplomat telephone conversations. Well, turns out that during the conferences leading to the UN's formation that those diplomat's calls were monitored too. Such behavior would be considered interfering in the affairs of a sovereign nation in contravention of the UN Charter and thus International and Constitutional Law. The contradictions between realities is at time stupendous. For example, I'm currently keenly following a US Supreme Court case since I have a personal interest in its outcome that relates to the very basics of the Common Law that both you and I inherited via our former British overlords. The argument is very detailed and specific and relies on the accumulation of 600+ years of common law application and juris prudence. Yet when it comes to obeying the same, the Outlaw US Empire often tramples over it like a herd of galloping hippos by ignoring its own Supreme Law of the Land by instituting Red Queen justice. In the UK, we have the Assange case as another graphic example of the 100% miscarriage of law.

Perhaps at some future moment in time, the Rule of Law will finally prevail and no nation or individual will be allowed to deviate from its provisions. And perhaps from that moment on, peace will finally prevail and humanity will rejoice.

Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 24 2019 23:58 utc | 93

To all the folks with suggestions about my HTML posting issue

I have Opera set to delete all cookies and site data when I quit and have just gone though and deleted history and such

I have Opera set to auto update and in spite of that did their Check for Updates today and got two of them in a row

I have rebooted my Mac

In spite of that I still can't successfully post a properly formed HTML link here but can elsewhere

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 25 2019 0:02 utc | 94

Google claims to have achieved quantum supremacy:

Demonstrating Quantum Supremacy

A light at the end of the tunnel for the USA against China?

Posted by: vk | Oct 25 2019 1:11 utc | 95

More than half of Americans want government-imposed press restrictions & curbs on free speech – survey

Some Americans are having second thoughts about the First Amendment, a new survey has found. Over half are calling for it to be rewritten, and some 61 percent believe there should be limits on freedom of speech.

Posted by: vk | Oct 25 2019 1:17 utc | 96

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 25 2019 0:02 utc | 95

Bizarre… Let’s see, this is a test link posted with Opera. If you see this comment, posting was successful, obviously :-)

Do you ad-blocking / tracker blocking enabled in Opera ? The build in one - Preferences > advanced (Settings) > Privacy Protection, or a third party extension. If so, it might be worth trying to add an exception for MoA.

(Boy, I do hate to use those Chromium based browsers for commenting or any other similar form task)

Posted by: Philippe | Oct 25 2019 1:36 utc | 97

@94 karlof1.. thanks for your reply... keep us posted on what you find in what you are following!

you know i am thinking what the usa is doing in eastern syria essentially amounts to war crimes.. they want to keep the oil and wheat to starve the people of syria what belongs to them... if this isn't as clear as a bell, i don't know what is.. this is the beautiful thing about trump.. he is so blunt, that he comes right out and says what any other admin would never openly admit.."we're taking the oil"... here is an article from ben norton at greyzone from yesterday that covers it all well..

Posted by: james | Oct 25 2019 3:21 utc | 98

@ Petri Krohn # 67 with the : Joe Rogan Experience #1368 - Edward Snowden video link

Thank You!!!!

I took the time to watch the whole 2 hour 49 minute thing and encourage others to do the same. Edward Snowden is a human patriot who is amazingly articulate throughout the interview in which he speaks for 99% of the time.

We are all challenged by him to add bricks to the society we want to live comfortably in...and it is definitely not the one we are under the jackboot of. He added a very important brick to a pile that is necessary for us to add to if we are ever going to live free and control the government we agree to be under.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 25 2019 3:36 utc | 99

The final report by air accident investigators into the Lion Air crash of a 737 MAX in Indonesia that killed 189 people a year ago provides a devastating critique of the design and certification of Boeing’s new flight-control system on the airplane.

It also provides a detailed account of the fatal flight. And it apportions blame to Lion Air’s maintenance work and its pilots, as well as a Florida firm that supplied a component, according to an advance copy reviewed by The Seattle Times.


The report also found that a critical sensor, a secondhand unit repaired and supplied by a Florida company, was faulty, and it found strong indications that the device was not tested during installation by Lion Air maintenance staff.


The engineer did produce several photos of the flight display, which he claimed showed the test had been performed. But investigators could not confirm that the photos were taken in the plane that crashed and clearly suspected they were not.

“The investigation could not determine with any certainty that the AOA sensor installation (was) successful,” the report states.

The report also found that 31 pages were missing from the aircraft’s October maintenance logs.

The replacement AOA sensor was a secondhand component supplied by a certified aviation repair shop, Xtra Aerospace in Miramar, Florida.

The part was faulty. On the flight directly before the fatal flight, the replacement sensor was off by 21 degrees from the one on the other side of the plane

Posted by: Arioch | Oct 25 2019 7:19 utc | 100

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