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October 02, 2019

Open Thread 2019-57

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Posted by b on October 2, 2019 at 15:35 UTC | Permalink

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Ali Özkök Retweeted Brett McGurk
Of course, the architect of the SDF project in Syria[McGurk], is now really angry on Turkey, because Ankara destroys his vision of a new YPG statelet in Syria.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 5 2019 23:36 utc | 201

Thank you Elora Danan # 181, Odd but the news of Iraq gets no mention on AMN or South Front. Could it be that these two ‘news’ sites are fake? It is no surprise really that treachery abounds among the political leadership and its high level functionaries. A cut and paste from the USA and every grubby game it has ever played.

Consider the total immunity enjoyed by Les Wexner and Ghislane Maxwell as they managed Epstein’s ruthless compromat game.

Time for all nation states to spend considerable attention and resources to snuff these forms of 'fake revolution' asap.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 6 2019 0:31 utc | 202

Many Txs @Elora Danan for the Iraq updates.
@Gruff or Mossad..

Posted by: Lozion | Oct 6 2019 2:05 utc | 203

Thank you Elora Danan for your many posts here today and the link to ejmagnier dot com.

I was struck by Magnier’s statement regarding Abdel Mahdi: The Americans consider that their failure to capture Iraq as an avant-garde country against Iran is a victory for Tehran. However, this is not what the Iraqi Prime Minister is aiming at. He is genuinely trying to keep away from the US-Iran war, but is meeting with increasing difficulties.

It reminded me of the same game the USA applied to destroy Norodom Sihanouk in Cambodia as he too was desperate to keep away from the USA deadly embrace and tread a somewhat precarious path of neutrality. Pol Pot emerged from the swamp and slaughtered millions.

Howard Zinn has something to contribute.

The USA government is the culpable agent of genocide and they are not troubled by that.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 6 2019 2:16 utc | 204

Iran nows how to deal with the yanks and brits.
"Australia will not extradite an Iranian academic to the United States, Australia’s attorney-general said over the weekend, following a 13-month detention of the researcher for allegedly exporting American-made military equipment to Iran."
"The statement came hours after Iran had agreed to free an Australian couple from a Tehran prison who were held on spying charges. Later on Saturday, Iranian media reported that Dehbashi Kivi had already returned to Iran."
"Australian couple released from Iran detention, Jolie King and Mark Firkin back in Australia in 'good health'"

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 6 2019 3:46 utc | 205

from Hurriyet
Turkey ready for operation east of Euphrates in Syria

Turkey is ready for an operation east of the Euphrates River in northern Syria, said President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Oct. 5, to clear the region of terrorists.
Addressing the ruling Justice and Development Party's (AKP) 29th Consultation and Assessment meeting in Kızılcahaman, a retreat town of capital Ankara, Erdoğan said Turkey aims to establish peace east of the Euphrates River by purging the Syrian region from terrorists.
“We have completed our preparations and action plan, the necessary instructions were given.
"It is maybe today or tomorrow the time to clear the way for [our] peace efforts which is set and the process for them was started. We will carry out a ground and air operation,” Erdoğan said.
“Our aim is, I underline it, to shower east of Euphrates with peace,” he added.
Turkey has long complained about the threat of terrorists coming from east of the Euphrates in northern Syria, which neighbors its southern border, vowing to take a military action to prevent formation of a "terrorist corridor" there. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 6 2019 4:03 utc | 206

A lot of western media coverage on Gen. Abdul-Wahab al-Saadi being transferred away from the US along the lines of transfering al-Saadi created the unrest. Hard to tell if it affected the Iraqi's, but it sure seems to have created some unrest amongst the Americans.
"The Iraqi prime minister’s removal of a top military commander from his post triggered heated political protests and uncertainty over the weekend, at a time of soaring tensions between the country’s chief security partners in the region, Iran and the United States.
Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi removed Lt. Gen. Abdul-Wahab al-Saadi from his post as the commander of the country’s elite counterterrorism forces and transferred him to the Defense Ministry on Friday, without providing an explanation."
Iraqi Revolution | Baghdad 10/05/2019
Note : Iraqi Revolution page circulate petition to W.H. and U.S. Congress suggests : Staff Lieutenant General Abdul-Wahab al-Saadi to head Salvation Government without outside influences

Abdul-Wahab al-Saadi Looks to be US pick for PM.

Iraqi Special Operations Forces

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 6 2019 6:59 utc | 207

Wrong twitter link on al-Saadi heading the so called "salvation government".
Correct link

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 6 2019 7:03 utc | 208

Deutsche Welle analysis of Iraq protests

I guess the protests are genuine. They are obviously secular. Iraqi sectarian politics suck.

A secular youth movement in the Middle East would be great news.

Posted by: somebody | Oct 6 2019 8:05 utc | 209

Independent Patrick Cockburn on the protests

It sounds genuine.

Posted by: somebody | Oct 6 2019 8:12 utc | 210

Greetings to B, and fellow bar-flys,
I've been diving in (again) of late, and I would just like like to sincerely say that this is one of the best sources for anyone from 'The West' to find an actual, real, journalistic quest for reality.
Yes there are multiple naritives being run by the commentariat, but on the whole this is the grand "it" of what journalism means and is, and I am honoured to have found the place.
Keep rolling, greetings from Australia, salutes!
Thanks B, et al

Posted by: Jack_Syddo | Oct 6 2019 13:26 utc | 211

@frances 185

Scott Humor covered it here:

It is not reported anywhere else, not even referred to in summary on the UN page (suprise eh) and it requires someone to actually listen to each address, so the story has died amongst all the sh1tstorms.

Posted by: ziogolem | Oct 7 2019 15:07 utc | 212

Ziogolem I don't see anything new in what people said in your link and certainly nothing worth any US attempt at deflection. Cheap words or threats have been spoken on the matter since the beginning and when they turn to war as they sometimes do no one cares about some stupid US political infighting which never changes anything and thus doesn't matter at all.

I get that people despair and suffer and die, it doesn't or shouldn't take any effort to feel sorry for them, it's not an accomplishment to do so or to proclaim it and at least so far it hasn't helped solve anything either, nor has anything else, and the religious "invocations" should be enough to make anyone consider becoming an atheist (and I'm not an atheist).

Mockery is what it is, mockery of all of it, and this mockery is supposed to be distracted from when it is the same as it has always been? No.

If this wasn't bad enough how few in the US were aware the UN had anything going on and how few among those in turn "care"? I'm surprised at myself for knowing about it in advance; I'm European and only knew by chance since the US claimed they were going to offer some "proof" regarding the Saudi attack but as expected nothing serious came of that either. All of this was to be expected and can be seen as a distraction in itself if one so wishes, and the UN General Assembly is well known for being all talk and without (at least formal) power.

Some dots simply aren't connected, some degrees of separation are simply too vague and generalized to merit interest.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 9 2019 18:42 utc | 213

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