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October 2, 2019
Open Thread 2019-57
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It will fix the page stretching problem for those who still have it. Posted by: S | Oct 2 2019 15:54 utc | 1 “Petition Filed at ICC to Probe Saudi Ruler MBS for Role in Murder of Jamal Khashoggi”: Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2019 16:19 utc | 3 Below is a link to a ZH article quoting a NYT article…boeing is going down like the market today Posted by: psychohistorian | Oct 2 2019 16:22 utc | 4 @3 Karlofi Posted by: Michael Droy | Oct 2 2019 16:23 utc | 5 Sanders underwent stent procedure, the same type of surgery I underwent 2+ years ago. He’ll be out-of-action for awhile, although will probably participate in the upcoming debate. Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2019 16:24 utc | 6 Boeing Engineer Says 737 Max Safety System Was Vetoed Over Cost @3 karlof1… the cia had another person in mind to lead ksa…. it didn’t work out and they have been plotting ever since.. Posted by: james | Oct 2 2019 16:38 utc | 8 Das Kommentariat @ 8 in the last open thread, req. comments re. Lapavitsas, C. L. interview. Posted by: Noirette | Oct 2 2019 16:50 utc | 9 @james #8: It is indeed possible to collect users’ IPs by pointing them to a file on a website one controls (or a website that allows the file uploader to see the IPs of the users accessing the file). Posted by: S | Oct 2 2019 16:55 utc | 10 heh, re. the hand outs. Posted by: Noirette | Oct 2 2019 16:58 utc | 11 I’d just like to add a topic, before thanking b for the open thread, which I do. So much is going on in alternate theatres that we here each do need to bring what we have to some degree been investigating, and I’d suggest that if we have gut feelings about one or another issue, we include those, not to be shot down but reasoned with, as most have kindly done for me. Posted by: juliania | Oct 2 2019 17:06 utc | 12 Russia’s Valdai Discussion Club’s 16th annual meeting is underway. This links to one of the numerous papers and videos, “The East’s Rise and the New Russian Foreign Policy” and this short paper provides additional context, “Russia Facing the Challenges of Eurasian Regionalization”. Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2019 17:09 utc | 13 Very insightful article here from Matt Stoller, part of his overall series on the politics of monopoly, highly recommended! Posted by: Roy G | Oct 2 2019 17:37 utc | 14 @TulsiGabbard Sept 30 Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 2 2019 18:06 utc | 15 Posted by: Piotr Berman | Oct 2 2019 18:06 utc | 18 Here is a list of our latest regime’s transgressions against the American people; Posted by: ben | Oct 2 2019 18:38 utc | 18 P.S. Not to mention the illegal wars and invasions committed by this country, resulting in the death and displacement millions Posted by: ben | Oct 2 2019 18:42 utc | 19 Crazy piece in Barron’s today: top hedge fund manager Ray Dalio suggests that a complete US decoupling from China – mooted publicly last week – is necessary as the money needs to be immediately reinvested domestically as a sort of last stand for capitalism. Posted by: jayc | Oct 2 2019 19:17 utc | 20 I can no longer access the Houthi news site. Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 2 2019 19:22 utc | 21 Well, jayc at 23, it worked for Russia. I’d love to see our nation Posted by: juliania | Oct 2 2019 19:34 utc | 22 Peter AU 1 @24
I can access it, I just had to add a “security exception” Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 2 2019 19:36 utc | 23 @11 S.. yes, i was aware of that, but how does it work in this instance with this poster? does one have to click the image to be collected? i would like it if b comments.. thanks! Posted by: james | Oct 2 2019 20:07 utc | 25 @21 & 22 Ben Posted by: b4real | Oct 2 2019 20:22 utc | 26 Posted by: Norwegian | Oct 2 2019 19:36 utc | 26 Posted by: Laguerre | Oct 2 2019 20:25 utc | 27 There’s no way Trump will get impeached and the Democrats know it. So why do it? I feel this is all a distraction from other things like:
I can’t think why the Democrats would politically commit suicide like this.
Piotr Berman | Oct 2 2019 18:06 utc | 18: Posted by: Ian2 | Oct 2 2019 20:37 utc | 28 Laguerre Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 2 2019 20:40 utc | 29 jayc @23 concerning Barron’s crazy call for full decoupling from China and juliania @25 noting that it worked for Russia. Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 2 2019 20:42 utc | 30 @1 S, Posted by: b4real | Oct 2 2019 20:42 utc | 31 @Posted by: karlof1 | Oct 2 2019 17:09 utc | 14
Posted by: Elora Danan | Oct 2 2019 20:45 utc | 32 William Gruff 33 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 2 2019 20:55 utc | 33 james @28 Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 2 2019 20:55 utc | 34 Re the KSA Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Oct 2 2019 21:00 utc | 35 Re:Greta,UN & Putin Posted by: dennis | Oct 2 2019 21:08 utc | 36 Scotch Bingeington 38 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 2 2019 21:09 utc | 37 Tracking pixels works because they are cookies, not because of anything else. The upload of the image requires an IP address reveal for routing. Posted by: c1ue | Oct 2 2019 21:10 utc | 38 @B: IMPORTANT! You are under attack and investigation by Bellingcat AGAIN. SF too, all the receivers of the Serena Shim award. Posted by: DontBelieveEitherPr. | Oct 2 2019 21:11 utc | 39 @karlof1 (3): Yes, thanks for the Escobar piece. Indeed an eye opener. Posted by: Cemi | Oct 2 2019 21:14 utc | 40 @Posted by: DontBelieveEitherPr. | Oct 2 2019 21:11 utc | 42 Posted by: Elora Danan | Oct 2 2019 21:26 utc | 41 I am still looking at things surrounding the (allegedly?) retracted paper “Quantum Supremacy Using a Programmable Superconducting Processor” (here). Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 2 2019 21:35 utc | 42 @ Posted by: juliania | Oct 2 2019 19:34 utc | 25 Looks like those tariffs over Airbus will indeed happen: @Posted by: Elora Danan | Oct 2 2019 21:26 utc | 44 Posted by: Elora Danan | Oct 2 2019 22:01 utc | 45 Sunny Runny Burger Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 2 2019 22:10 utc | 46 Russia and China are both researching quantum computing for strategic defence. US no doubt wants it for offence. Whatever stage of development quantum computing is at in these countries, it will be a closely guarded secret. Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 2 2019 22:15 utc | 47 Thank you Ian2 #31, as I see it Tulsi Gabbard is the first candidate to resolutely oppose the USA Intelligence war machine and the MIC. Do inform me if there has been another such candidate in the past two centuries. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Oct 2 2019 22:20 utc | 48 @ 29; Thanks for your advice, but your opinions, are just that, opinions. Posted by: ben | Oct 2 2019 22:43 utc | 49 piling on — on impeachment… Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 2 2019 22:47 utc | 50 “Woke” used to mean “politically aware” but it is now going the way of “conspiracy theorist” as someone deserving of derision. Posted by: ziogolem | Oct 2 2019 22:56 utc | 51 For the edification of some. One case in point. Posted by: ben | Oct 2 2019 22:59 utc | 52 @ Elora Danan | Oct 2 2019 21:26 utc | 44 Posted by: jared | Oct 2 2019 23:06 utc | 53 @ ben 55 Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 2 2019 23:11 utc | 54 @ Don Bacon | Oct 2 2019 22:47 utc | 53 Posted by: jared | Oct 2 2019 23:15 utc | 55 Juliania @ 25, William Gruff @ 33: Posted by: Jen | Oct 2 2019 23:28 utc | 56 to Ben # 21 & 22. Your list can be applied to the last four presidents. Remember Clinton-boy and R. Rich mentioned in the Whitney Webb articles, for example. I guess Posted by: Miss Lacy | Oct 2 2019 23:32 utc | 57 @ Jen 59 Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 2 2019 23:49 utc | 58 The latest from Whitney Webb on Epstein: Posted by: Uncle Jon | Oct 2 2019 23:50 utc | 59 @37 william gruff.. thanks.. i didn’t know how that works.. why does b let these posters post?? Posted by: james | Oct 3 2019 0:16 utc | 61 . . .good news via M.K. Bhadrakumar — Ukraine is free at last (perhaps) courtesy of “whistleblower”…..
Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 3 2019 0:27 utc | 62 @60 Ben & 64 Don Posted by: b4real | Oct 3 2019 0:56 utc | 63 Don Bacon Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 1:10 utc | 64 During the first cold war it was said that an iron curtain fell and divided Europe. Today it is the bullshit curtain has fallen across the US and the West. Never has so much cow manure been spread by so many for so long. Trump has amplified the bullshit curtain. Posted by: dltravers | Oct 3 2019 1:19 utc | 65 “why does b let these posters post?” –james @65 Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 3 2019 1:20 utc | 66 @ b4real 67 Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 3 2019 1:26 utc | 67 @71 Don Posted by: b4real | Oct 3 2019 2:17 utc | 68 Peter AU 1 #24 Thanks for providing this link. I was able to access this site. One story that caught my eye was Posted by: Tom | Oct 3 2019 4:05 utc | 69 Elora Danan@44 – “…Their reports on Syria were absolutely discouraging for the SAA side…and then you have who promote this site all the way…all US “analysts”…related to USAF… Posted by: PavewayIV | Oct 3 2019 4:44 utc | 70 Tom | Oct 3 2019 4:05 utc | 73:
Whaaat? Government not telling the truth? LOL I’m sure everyone here knows when politicians are lying. Weapon sales aren’t much of a story and are signed long before delivery. Maybe previous administration made the sale? Posted by: Ian2 | Oct 3 2019 4:52 utc | 71 Re Tulsi Gabbard, I’m not sure what to make of her reversal on impeachment as she had stood alone among Dem candidates in opposing it. She now favors impeachment inquiry after reading the Trump-Zelensky transcript. Maybe it’s purely political strategy and what she feels is necessary to compete as a Dem (with the potential side benefit of Biden going down). Maybe she doesn’t understand CIA’s involvement in this latest takedown effort (after the failed Russiagate scam). Maybe she knows little of US involvement in Ukraine and the reasons for it. Maybe other commentators have a better understanding of her position than me. Posted by: Kabobyak | Oct 3 2019 5:23 utc | 72 @70 william gruff… thanks for going into that with me / us here – for any following this..it makes sense all that you say.. Posted by: james | Oct 3 2019 5:44 utc | 73 Anonymous Paranoid Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 6:32 utc | 74 @2 karlof1 Pepe Escobar made a mistake on naming the “Operation Nasrallah”!! Pepe has repeated the same mistake 4 times in his article. Yemeni operation name is ” Nasro men Allah”. Pepe Escobar has confused it with Nasrallah. You may ask waht is the difference? Nasrallah is a popular name in Muslim world, also is family name of Lebanon Hezbollah leader, literally means ” god’s help”. While ” Nasro men Allah” is part of a very famous verse ( 61/12) of Quran. A fuller version of verse(61/12) in Arabic reads ” … Nasro men Allah van fathon qharib …”, translation :” A help from Allah [is coming] and a speedy conquest [ is nearer]”. Who ever hear the short version of the verse, in the Muslim world ( it was very often slogan of battles in history), will get message of the full version, it means an speedy conqest is near. Posted by: arata | Oct 3 2019 7:30 utc | 75 arata, thanks for the translation and meaning. Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 7:45 utc | 76 In re Boeing flyer 737NFG…illegal parts says aljaz…see>” On a Wing and Prayer” @ aljazeera 15 Dec 2010 15:20 GMT (yes, 9 years ago) Posted by: Walter | Oct 3 2019 8:30 utc | 77 In Australia we are bemused by the relationship between Trump and our real estate lobbyists (AKA the government). It never ceases to amaze me how we in Oz insist on playing the fawning client to the USA even when it is a fat elephant in the room that we are a Chinese mining outpost. I would like to hear the views of the MoA commentariat on the US-Australia alliance, as well as what the scuttlebutt is about why our real estate bubble shows no sign of bursting. The political economy of Australia in relation to the global situation intrigues me—I have a few theories and adhere to the usual historical materialist longue durée explanations, but this is an intelligent blog with info on matters of great interest. Any long-view perspectives on Australia geopolitically, militarily, economically, etc? Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 3 2019 9:00 utc | 78 Peter AU 1 | Oct 2 2019 19:22 utc | 24
That website just installed a brand new security certificate issued by cPanal, Inc. Certificate Authority, Valid from 03-10-2019 to 02-01-2020. The person who installed it may have been a bit premature, not realizing that in some parts of the planet it was not yet 3-10-2019, causing your browser to dismiss it. Posted by: Joost | Oct 3 2019 9:11 utc | 79 Joost Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 9:19 utc | 80 @ Sunny Runny Burger | Oct 2 2019 21:35 utc | 45
What is claimed in the paper? Number of Qubit: 53 Qubit. What else? I am not tracing the Quantum computing but I knew Google had 16 Qubit setup last year, what was the result? These are academic play ground toys, they get some budget and recruit some post graduates, torture their brain, then write some papers with 100 reference, then argue with each other and get a position somewhere to teach the same. What else the paper claims? Freeze the chip, down to 20 mK ( mili Kelvin, means almost absolute zero)! How much practical is it? Then connect 277 external analog channels, then hire Google existing conventional supercomputer to calculate state of Qubits. This is far from a serious breakthrough for Quantum computing theory. Posted by: arata | Oct 3 2019 9:22 utc | 81 Patroklos 84 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 9:40 utc | 82 Tom 73 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 9:54 utc | 83 Patroklos 84 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 10:02 utc | 84 @ Peter AU 1 Posted by: Patroklos | Oct 3 2019 10:33 utc | 85 In the months after MH17 I came to the conclusion that domestic policy is largely dependant on foreign policy, which is delivered from the US embassy or direct from the US so no longer follow domestic politics. Some foreign policy from UK as well – I suspect MH17 was more a UK operation than a US operation. Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 10:43 utc | 86 About Luneburg lenses (from CIA compromised Wikipedia): “A radar reflector can be made from a Luneburg lens by metallizing parts of its surface. Radiation from a distant radar transmitter is focussed onto the underside of the metallization on the opposite side of the lens; here it is reflected, and focussed back onto the radar station. Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 3 2019 10:45 utc | 87 Juliania @ 13 is right the USA house is defending the sovereignty of America. The house is standing its ground in the conflict between Article I [the duty of the popularly elected congress to save the sovereignty of America and the freedom of Americans] and Article II [elite controlled USA attempting to transfer control of USA governed Americans into new world order <=which most Americans hate<=slavery]. This conflict will provide many Americans with a glimpse of what the USA has been up to. as Juliania says, its an struggle between the internal American security and control by the new world order. Moreover its an issue on whether or not the intelligence services are serving American Interest.. the Justice department always fails when the elite are involved. Americans are still waiting to find out why the USA got involved in Ukraine? <=Basically the same World Ordere vs National Sovereignty issue with Bexit..
Roy G @ 17 says. McDonnell-Douglas figures prominently in the shades of Boeing, and transfer by Article II persons to foreign entities that are important to American sovereign interest.
Ben's list @ 21.. of the laterst Regime's transgressions against the American people.
Dollars will not come home for investment so long as there are more profitable alternatives elsewhere and so long as central banks in most other countries need those dollars for trade. William Grupp @ 33, 36.. Mr. Grupp its simple to fix, pass a law to eliminate the alternatives, no American presence or citizenship to anyone with foreign investments. Americans would love it if those corporate monopolies would leave, but wall street would go stark raving mad. China has substantial investments in the America particularly in Infrastructure (Railroads) and Farming sectors, in spite of the USA.
As Pepe points out in his article, the CIA is backing the exiled al-Saud prince-led group working to install a Constitutional Monarchy, while MbS apparently remains Trump's man. The impeachment attempt has gone further international. by: karlof1 @ 3, Cemi @ 43..
but Hassan Hassan exposes Saudi Cells operating at major American University and throughout America.. read Posted by: snake | Oct 3 2019 10:53 utc | 88 joe 89 Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 11:08 utc | 89 Joe Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 11:10 utc | 90 My electronics days were with vacuum tubes and never serious, but I get that passive radar depends on background emissions and majorly on signal processing (and machine/man refinements in algorithms). Posted by: Walter | Oct 3 2019 12:01 utc | 91 Peter AU1 # 90 Posted by: dennis | Oct 3 2019 12:20 utc | 92 dennis @97 Posted by: William Gruff | Oct 3 2019 12:55 utc | 93 Not only Boeing and contracts, big money and accidents run like ham n’ eggs… searchterm> “strange death of walter reuther” Posted by: Walter | Oct 3 2019 13:12 utc | 94 to Uncle Tungsten # 48 Dennis Kuchinich. He was a candidate during O’Bomber’s first campaign. He had proposed a Department of Peace amongst other good things. He was polling pretty well until O’Bomber got the big bucks, and a “little help from his friends” whom I believe may have included Sleazy Leiberman, MacInsane’s pal as well as Gore’s running mate. Dennis was an honest, brave and thoughtful guy. A rarity in other words. Posted by: Miss Lacy | Oct 3 2019 13:20 utc | 95 Dennis and William Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 13:21 utc | 96 Peter, that seems to make sense. Big target like that would shine on OTHR. The MH17 bit – yeah, but some claim the target was Putin’s airplane… I find that far fetched, but I find the world far fetched these days…it was FDR who said that there are no coincidences… Posted by: Walter | Oct 3 2019 13:35 utc | 97 @ : Peter AU 1 83 Posted by: Don Bacon | Oct 3 2019 13:38 utc | 98 Peter Au @75 you might try https://www.grc.com/fingerprints.htm to be sure the web page you are viewing is the page you intended to view.. I am finding many pages that do not have the proper finger print.. Posted by: snake | Oct 3 2019 13:41 utc | 99 Don Bacon Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Oct 3 2019 13:51 utc | 100 |
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