OK so now that they condemn white supremacist terrorism, will they explain me why the BBC has always had pictures of Breivink on its front page that were obviously advantaging him?

Posted by: Mina | Aug 5 2019 20:55 utc | 103

Hahaha. I didnt see JR gave the same answer.

Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 5 2019 21:50 utc | 105

@99 jr and @103 donkey… thanks guys…
i realize it is not the way the term is used, but how do americans justify this and at the same time have a problem with socialism? it seems weird to me..
so corporate welfare of an extreme nature is cool, but socialism ain’t cool… what this tells me is wall st. is calling a lot of the shots in the usa.. no better way to see this is then thru the 2008 bailout.. none of them have been held accountable.. they are all laughing in the face of the taxpayers and the corporate msm will not address what is a glaring double standard in the usa today – one of many!!!
nottheonly1 and mina – trump supports white supremacy… he can say all he wants contrary to that… the guy is a thru and thru liar… that much at least ought to have dawned on americans by now – then again – maybe not!!

Posted by: james | Aug 5 2019 22:09 utc | 107

@karlof1 #105: Canadian YouTuber Amazing Polly digs up some interesting connections of Vicky Ward (the reporter who brought the Epstein case to the spotlight) in BOOM(S)! Mainstream Reporter Has Deep Swamp Ties – Where is Ghislaine? It’s a very British group.

Posted by: S | Aug 5 2019 22:31 utc | 109

donkey @107
Butt hurt much?
I’ve explained that I supported the Greens until the last few weeks. I voted against Hillary, not for Trump. I’d bet that many Greens and Sanders were also fooled into voting for Hillary or Trump despite their distaste for each of them.
Furthermore, I’ve made the case – strenuously – that Trump was installed by the Deep State to counter the challenge from Russia and China. That makes him illegitimate.
How many times do we have to go over this?
Part of the reason that I’m so cynical is that I voted for Obama and against Hillary later came to realize that each election was a set-up. There really was no choice between McCain and Obama or between Hillary and Trump. IMO the establishment/Deep State Presidency believes that the Presidency is too important to allow for a Democratic choice.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 5 2019 22:53 utc | 111

The problem with your (or rather Alex Jones’) antidepressant theory is that there’s simply no evidence that even suggest such a correlation. All the developed (and much of the developing) world take a lot of antidepressants. There’s also no evidence antidepressants cause psychosis — on the contrary, the goal of an antidepressant is to put the brain to a “neutral state”.
Posted by: vk | Aug 5 2019 14:01 utc | 76
Oh there is evidence:
Mental Health Watchdog Releases New Report on Link Between Psychotropic Drugs & School/Mass Shootings
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mental-health-watchdog-releases-new-report-on-link-between-psychotropic-drugs–schoolmass-shootings-300618265.html

Posted by: O | Aug 5 2019 23:18 utc | 113

“Yes, I reinforce my statement that Trump is not a white supremacist himself, but a person who has a pragmatic view of white supremacism: he sees it as an ideology with good potential, but still too green to be readily used for America’s national interests….As an American capitalist with class consciousness, Donald Trump knows who America’s real enemy is — and it is socialism (which, in the 21st century, essentially survives through China).”
posted by: vk | Aug 5 2019 15:56 utc | 83
LOl you clearly don’t know jack about Donald Trump. He is dyed in the wool white supramcist like his KKK supporting father. The apple didn’t fall from the tree with DJT and his crusade against wrongly accused “Central Park Five” even after they were exonerated and this is long before that pedophile even thought about being president. Do we even need to mention he jumped on the “Birther” bandwagon? Again long before the serial rapist thought of being president.
Donald Trump is not class consciousness because that would require thinking about something of other them himself. Go listen to the old Howard Stern interviews with the fondler in chief he only cares about himself and the next underage girl he is going to rape. Not to mention the disturbing remarks he made about his own daughter.
DJT was not voted in, he was selected for the exact same reason Zaphod Beeblebrox was selected for Galactic president.
“The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. On those criteria Zaphod Beeblebrox is one of the most successful Presidents the Galaxy has ever had — he has already spent two of his ten presidential years in prison for fraud.”-Douglas Adams

Posted by: O | Aug 5 2019 23:36 utc | 115

james – I don’t actually believe most Amerikkkans are necessarily OK with extreme forms of corporate welfare nor are they necessarily anti-socialism. Do you have data on that or are we simply relying on certain bullying commenters’ biased, stereotyped caricature of what Amerikkkans do or want?

Americans today are more closely divided than they were earlier in the last century when asked whether some form of socialism would be a good or bad thing for the country. While 51% of U.S. adults say socialism would be a bad thing for the country, 43% believe it would be a good thing. Those results contrast with a 1942 Roper/Fortune survey that found 40% describing socialism as a bad thing, 25% a good thing and 34% not having an opinion.

I believe we are transitiong to a period where the majority may in fact become cool with socialism…although I think in reality what will likely pass muster in the near term is a social democracy welfare state which includes higher taxes, especially on top incomes and wealth in exchange for an increased welfare state. These ideas are in the process of becoming mainstream political ideas in one of the major parties.

Previous Gallup research shows that Americans’ definition of socialism has changed over the years, with nearly one in four now associating the concept with social equality and 17% associating it with the more classical definition of having some degree of government control over the means of production. A majority of Democrats have said they view socialism positively in Gallup polling since 2010, including 57% in the most recent measure in 2018.

Demotards get such a bad rap for many, many reasons here at MoA, some valid and some not so valid but still should these correct-thinking voters be supported and helped to bring about a better (not perfect) society instead of scorned or shunned here?
At the end of the day I stand with bevin, who I believe to be one of the smartest commenters on the internet and also not a cynic. Bevin supports Bernie not because he is utopian or that bernie can singlehandedly beat down the DNC, the zionists, the MIC, the racist/fascist GOP….or the cynics at MoA.
Because history is a process. All you have to see if the Rupblican Party since roughly Nixon to see how the system can be moved very far in one direction over time…..and it can also be moved in the other direction.

Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 5 2019 23:45 utc | 117

‘I’ve explained that I supported the Greens until the last few weeks. I voted against Hillary, not for Trump. I’d bet that many Greens and Sanders were also fooled into voting for Hillary or Trump despite their distaste for each of them…
Part of the reason that I’m so cynical is that I voted for Obama and against Hillary later came to realize that each election was a set-up. There really was no choice between McCain and Obama or between Hillary and Trump. IMO the establishment/Deep State Presidency believes that the Presidency is too important to allow for a Democratic choice.”
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 5 2019 22:53 utc | 110
This seems contradictory, so I have to ask whey continue with the ritual in the first place?

Posted by: O | Aug 6 2019 0:01 utc | 119

118 asked;” so I have to ask whey continue with the ritual in the first place?”
Therapy? Probably the same reason we all post here at MoA..

Posted by: ben | Aug 6 2019 0:10 utc | 121

Therapy? Probably the same reason we all post here at MoA..
Posted by: ben | Aug 6 2019 0:10 utc | 120
Lol there is some truth to that.

Posted by: O | Aug 6 2019 0:16 utc | 123

“I call him anti-christ, because he is anti-everything Christ stood for – as far as the story goes. Which is a real double whammy, considering that his followers will try to sell anybody that they are all firm believers in Jesus. But his base are folks that believe in the rapture and that humans were riding dinosaurs.”
Posted by: nottheonly1 | Aug 6 2019 0:12 utc | 121
You hit the nail on the head on that one, it is Christian Zionist (which existed prior to Jewish Zionism and later figured out how to manipulate the christians zionist) who are his core and cult followers. They literally see him as sign of the end times bible prophecy fulfillment(Trumpets and all that jazz).

Posted by: O | Aug 6 2019 0:24 utc | 125

At the end of the day I stand with bevin, who I believe to be one of the smartest commenters on the internet and also not a cynic. Bevin supports Bernie not because he is utopian or that bernie can singlehandedly beat down the DNC, the zionists, the MIC, the racist/fascist GOP….or the cynics at MoA.
Because history is a process. All you have to see if the Rupblican Party since roughly Nixon to see how the system can be moved very far in one direction over time…..and it can also be moved in the other direction.
Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 5 2019 23:45 utc | 116
I believe the answer is less about the political process being changed and more about the changing of the programming that was handed down to us, and ensuring our children don’t fall into the same traps. Having kids makes you realize that the best you can do for the world is trying to shape and make a better human than you and who will able to influence others and pass it on. The simplest definition of evolution is the changing of traits in a population over time. This doesn’t just happen in a physical biological sense but also a psychological sense and the overall consciousness of humanity. As far as politics goes, it is better to concentrate on the local and the things that immediately affect you like community control of the police.

Posted by: O | Aug 6 2019 0:37 utc | 127

lysias @123–
Simple. She wants to avoid Epstein’s fate and is probably in a very swanky bolt-hole.
james and other Canadians: Hudson interviewed after delivering his paper in Manitoba:
“In an exclusive, wide-ranging interview with Global Research News Hour host Michael Welch, Professor Hudson explains how the Bretton Woods institutions came to be an instrument of the U.S. empire, the similarities and differences behind the paths to Chinese and US economic prosperity, the virtual impossibility of electing a genuine reformer to the White House, the case of Canada, and more.”
The transcript’s not the best; it needs further editing. IMO, it’s taking Dr. Hudson awhile but he finally puts together 3 outstanding paragraphs about the genuine nature of what’s happening:
“So it’s not China versus the US, it’s whether you want a Thatcherite, neoliberal policy that’s going to impoverish you and leave your corporations bankrupt, and let the United States exploit you again and again, and from the auto pact agreement in the 70s down through NAFTA, or are you going to act in your own economic self-interest?
“You don’t have to join China to act in your economic self-interest. You don’t have to join China to return to a Bank of Canada like it used to be, to free yourself from the banks. You don’t have to join China to have a tax policy that lowers the price of housing by imposing a ground rent, a basic rent allocation, so that all of the rent won’t be paid to the banks as interest.
“You can lower the cost of business by deleveraging the economy. So it’s just… They’re trying to frighten you when they’re trying to talk about the yellow peril dependency on China. What really it is, it is not a war of America against China. It’s a war of do you want feudalism and debt peonage or do you want economic survival.”
IF a nation’s people can summon their collective will, it’s possible to dig out of the hole dug for you by the financial parasites. Probably easier for Canada having a smaller, more homogenous population and a parliamentary system.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2019 0:53 utc | 129

O @ 126
Well-stated. Can your kids and all their get out and vote yet? 🙂

Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 6 2019 1:10 utc | 131

donkeytale 119:Where has your cynicism gotten you, JR?
Well, as I explained @109 (you know, the comment that you replied to):

I’ve made the case – strenuously – that Trump was installed by the Deep State to counter the challenge from Russia and China.

This insight comes from a place that’s very different from your brand of self-satisfied cynicism. When will YOU stop shilling for an electoral system that is essentially a “lesser evil” shell game? When will YOU stop drinking (and regurgitating) the Kool-Aid?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 6 2019 1:24 utc | 133

Following the financial propaganda output there is the link below from Reuters
Former Fed chairs say U.S. central bank must be free of ‘political pressures’
The take away quote
”
“It is critical to preserve the Federal Reserve’s ability to make decisions based on the best interests of the nation, not the interests of a small group of politicians,” the former Fed chairs wrote.
”
I suggest that you replace the words “…a small group of politicians” with a small group of global financiers to uncover the blatant lie

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 6 2019 1:35 utc | 135

@ Posted by: O | Aug 5 2019 23:18 utc | 112
The study in your link is not a scientific one. It’s just a collection of anecdotal cases and some macro statistics.
@ Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 5 2019 22:50 utc | 109
The phrase “socialism for the rich” is not that far away from Marxist theory. Marx himself wrote on book III of Das Kapital, when explaining the concepts of prices of production and social (general) rate of profit:

Here, then, we have the mathematically exact demonstration, how it is that the capitalists form a veritable freemason society arrayed against the whole working class, however much they may treat each other as false brothers in the competition among themselves.
The price of production includes the average profit. We call it price of production. It is, as a matter of fact, the same thing which Adam Smith calls natural price, Ricardo price of production, or cost of production, and the physiocrats prix necessaire, because it is in the long run a prerequisite of supply, of the reproduction of commodities in every individual sphere. But none of them has revealed the difference between price of production and value. We can well understand, then, why these same economists, who always resist a determination of the value of commodities by labor-time, by the quantity of labor contained in them, always speak of prices of production as centers, around which market-prices fluctuate. They can afford to do that because the price of production is an utterly external and, at first glance, meaningless form of the value of commodities, a form as seen in competition and thus reflected in the mind of the vulgar capitalist, and consequently in that of the vulgar economists.
Our analysis resulted in the discovery that the market-value (and everything said concerning it applies with the necessary modifications to the prlee of production) implies a surplus-profit for those who produce in any particular sphere of production under the most favorable conditions. With the exception of crises, and of over-production in general, this applies to all market-prices, no matter how much they may deviate from market-values or market-prices of production. For the market-price signifies that the same price is paid for commodities of the same kind, although they may have been produced under very different individual conditions and may have considerably different cost-prices. (We do not speak at this point of any surplus-profits due to monopolies in the strict meaning of the term, whether they are artificial or natural.)
A surplus-profit may also arise, when certain spheres of production are in a position to evade the conversion of the values of their commodities into prices of production, and thus a reduction of their profits to the average profit. We shall devote more attention to the further modifications of these two forms ground-rent.

(Peguin edition, 1909, p. 233-234)
This “freemason society” is, nothing more nothing less than what Americans call nowadays “socialism for the rich”/”corporate welfare”: the higher the degree of exploitation of labor in a given capitalist society and the more developed is said capitalist system in this same society, the higher the prices of production, which means the higher is the social rate of profit, which means that the capitalist class as a whole wins.

Posted by: vk | Aug 6 2019 1:40 utc | 137

Don Wills @135–
Well put, sir! Yes, I see US society on its way to achieving critical mass, which may be either positive or negative. The problem with Ike’s speech is that he was co-conspirator in the rise of the demon he warned about and was also a Constitutional Criminal for Iran, Guatemala, Cuba, Indochina, and more. The National Security State couldn’t have found a better front-man to cover for its many illegalities and growth during its formative years.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2019 1:53 utc | 139

VK
Notice Marx nowhere in this passage makes national distinctions between capitalists but class distinctions. And as a class they profit despite varying conditions, costs of production, profit margins. I believe this to be true because capitalist production stems from initial investment which also take into account the relative differences in needed inputs to achieve the same rates of return. For instance higher wage costs,
I was kidding in my tongue in cheek comment to jackrabbit above but Chinese production is tied to US corporate profits which also generate investment profits for Chinese companies

Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 6 2019 2:47 utc | 141

@113 ben.. i agree…
@116 donkey… it is hard to know who or what the ”ordinary american” believes in, or is… i go by the actions of the usa on the world stage and unfortunately the usa on the world stage is responsible for a lot of bad shit, not to mention how they want to suggest otherwise…. the knight in shining armor doesn’t work for me and hasn’t for a long time.. some folks might believe that, but not me..
as for bevin and his comments – i pretty much agree, but i don’t believe bernie sanders is much of anything personally.. in fact, it seems like to qualify as a politician in the usa and much of the western world today, you have to stand for exactly nothing when it comes right down to it.. so many of them and especially bernie – is just a cog in the wheel that want to go along with the agenda as prescribed by the financial elite running the dem party.. i am sorry.. it isn’t about repubs or dems, but about a 2 party system where they both represent one party – the war party… and they are happy to go along with bailing out banks and etc. etc. remember – that was on obamas watch – a dem… it doesn’t seem to matter who is in power in the usa – they are all shit.. it isn’t that much different here in canada, but we don’t count as much on the world stage.. as far as i can tell the usa hasn’t had a decent leader since carter, and in canada since trudeau senior.. so, i guess i disagree with bevin on sanders being the solution.. i think the usa at this point is unfixable short of a complete revolution…
@121 nottheonly1.. i mostly agree with you.. trump is as bad as one can get for a leader, but maybe the usa has it in them to find someone worse, or at least hold to trump for another term and hopefully that will kill whatever they had before he got into power.. the world has moved on, meanwhile the usa finds itself in the gutter on a daily basis with trump.. antichrist – sure, although i don’t like thinking in religious terms like that, so maybe your last few sentences is a better way of describing him..
@123 lysias.. good question.. dunno..
@127 sunny runny – interesting speculation on no election for 2020.. maybe…
@128 karlof1… thanks for that interview from manitoba… he says a lot of insightful things.. donkey really ought to read what he has to say about bernie sanders 3/4s down the page… i agree with his comments on the world bank and the imf and about where canada is at.. it sounds like those changes happened during trudeau seniors era.. if so, i might have to take back what i said about trudeau senior.. thanks for that…

Posted by: james | Aug 6 2019 3:05 utc | 143

Looks like Bolton gave a talking to with Trump from the Deep State after he said he was not interested in Venezuela -a big FU to his base to whom he ran as a non-interventionist.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/06/trump-freezes-all-venezuelan-government-assets-in-us
“Trump freezes all Venezuelan government assets in US”
“The Trump administration has frozen all Venezuelan government assets in a significant escalation of tensions with socialist leader Nicolás Maduro. It places Washington’s trade relations with the South American country on a par with Cuba, Syria, Iran and North Korea.”
“The ban on Americans doing business with Venezuela’s government takes effect immediately.”
“All property and interests in property of the Government of Venezuela that are in the United States … are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in,” the executive order says.”

Posted by: Stever | Aug 6 2019 3:31 utc | 145

Who indeed is the deep state darling? The zionist messiah? I think to answer that one needs to ask, “What did Israel want the most from the 2016 presidential candidate?” Easy-peazy…a no-fly zone over Syria.
Embassy in Jerusalem…recognizing The Golan as Israel’s…small potatoes, the booby prize, fait accompli.
No fly zone, a game changer. Possibly a world-ender too!

Posted by: Hassaan | Aug 6 2019 4:14 utc | 147

I was surprised at B’s somewhat emotional/irrational response to recent mass killings in U.S.
Perhaps it reflects a european perspective (understandably).
At least an attempt as rational discussion (if somewhat biased):
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-06/heres-what-criminology-professor-learned-studying-every-mass-shooting-1966
Personally, I don’t like guns/wish we didn’t need them, but I think that unfortunately people are what they are and the world is what it is and there are situations when/where a person needs to be able to defend self (or better, deter attack).
Also personal opinion – I do think real, real-time, strict, methodical, with periodic renewal back-ground check needs to be done.

Posted by: jared | Aug 6 2019 13:32 utc | 149

@ 149 said;”Also personal opinion – I do think real, real-time, strict, methodical, with periodic renewal back-ground check needs to be done.”
Or, we could do this, something that’s actually mitigated the “gun problem”.
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/strict-gun-laws-ended-mass-shootings-australia

Posted by: ben | Aug 6 2019 14:19 utc | 151

P.S.I don’t really expect for any solution for the “gun problem”, because hey, what’s a few deaths, compared to great profits generated by the sale of assault weapons.
For the same reason, we in the U$A, can’t have a real democracy, because it might inter-
fear with the profit motive.

Posted by: ben | Aug 6 2019 14:40 utc | 153

@ ben | Aug 6 2019 14:45 utc | 154
Ban the kitchen knife.
Approx 2500 murders in U.S. in 2018.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/upshot/us-murder-rate-for-2018-is-on-track-for-a-big-drop.html
Rising substantially 20014 – 2016, before leveling in 2017.

Posted by: jared | Aug 6 2019 14:55 utc | 155

“I don’t like guns/wish we didn’t need them, but I think that unfortunately people are what they are and the world is what it is and there are situations when/where a person needs to be able to defend self (or better, deter attack)”
sure!! every country in the world has 250 mass killings in just 7 months!

Posted by: Julie | Aug 6 2019 16:11 utc | 157

jared @155: Ban the kitchen knife.
And driving over 40 mph / 60kph.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 6 2019 17:08 utc | 159

Related to mass shooting in the US, state of affairs in the US, and reality as it is with respect to everything, including the economic war against China en everybody out there, compilation of Twitter pearls, since people seem to be sembrada today….May be it is the hot weather….

Thousands of people injecting themselves insulin for dogs in the US, because they can’t afford to pay for treatments. The reality of late capitalism today.
Trump appointed Alex Azar secretary of health in 2017. Between 2012 and 2017, Azar was president of the Eli Lilly pharmaceutical company in the US, raising the price of insulin to such high numbers that people die because they cannot medicate.
The insulin cartel fights generics.

https://twitter.com/Percebegallego/status/1158622816826220544

The US will investigate your activity on social networks when you apply for a visa….
I do not know if they apply it, but I have completely taken away the desire to go there to absolutely nothing, let alone to get shot in a Walmart

https://twitter.com/JAM_BCN/status/1158469209137057793

Well, yes, hamijos, the US is that great country in which 50 million poor people eat daily thanks to charity, thousands of patients inject themselves insulin for dogs or die at the doors of hospitals, there are hundreds of thousands of homelees and several weekly shootings.
But you see their series, with those beautiful urbanizations of single-family homes and happy children on bicycles and you die of pleasure, memos.
Yesterday I heard that the families were asking for money for the hospitalization of the victims of the attack. I flipped a lot. A terrorist shoots you and you pay for hospitalization?
The market, friend…

https://twitter.com/sacedator/status/1158643584993808385

Public lynching events announced in the press, and in which you could take a black finger as a souvenir. But Stalin.

https://twitter.com/DelRojerioMeFio/status/1158726982311600128

I could open an Insta account called “People carrying weapons in Walmart” and it will give me several daily posts. I don’t do it because I’m afraid of photographing them.
In a quick Google search you can find thousands.
Of course, it doesn’t matter much that they bring it on. If you forget it at home, there you have a great variety to choose from.
Right next to the diapers, the detergent and the essentials of going back to school.

https://twitter.com/MonicaMarful/status/1158072175728791552

The discreet charm of the American middle class: single-family home and shopping afternoon.

https://twitter.com/sacedator/status/1158686903446704129

They have made the vast majority believe that the US is the model to be imitated and an admirable country, and when you tell them that they lynched blacks in public shows until well into the 50s of the last century, or you put pictures of Yankees with the rifle at the ready for a walk, they collapse.
It is between pain and laugh to see some babbling that there is no need to generalize, and that at the point of several shootings per week, when you counterprogram their propaganda clutter.

https://twitter.com/sacedator/status/1158641767966793730

The El Paso massacre began in the vicinity of a department store in the Walmart chain. Let’s see how the US Walmart are inside …

https://twitter.com/ciudadfutura/status/1158429379162251265

A pleasant afternoon of shopping at any mall in the USA.

https://twitter.com/sacedator/status/1158470768273108993

“In the USSR they were all clonic beings that acted as automatons” …
And they dressed all the same….

https://twitter.com/ciudadfutura/status/1158673584140820480

Hiroshima, August 6, 1945, the US greets you..

https://twitter.com/sacedator/status/1158649533536059392

To understand a sick capitalist society that still controls minds and wills: after the #Hiroshima crime against Humanity, in the US there were beauty parades called “Miss Atomic Bomb”.

https://twitter.com/ciudadfutura/status/1158652398413504512

Breaking News: Bolton rates Venezuela as a rogue state and compares it to Iran, North Korea and Syria..
The spokesman of the most rogue and criminal state in history accusing others, on the day that marks the anniversary of the Hiroshima nuclear bombing, with 166,000 civilians vilely killed by the US.

https://twitter.com/sacedator/status/1158749441245032448

Posted by: Sasha | Aug 6 2019 17:33 utc | 161

@ Stever | Aug 6 2019 3:31 utc | 145

“Trump freezes all Venezuelan government assets in US”

I saw that, too. It begs the question WTF are Venezuelan assets doing in the US?
Is that some sort of satire? I mean, given the history of the meddling of the American Fascists in the internal affairs of Venezuela over the last 16+ years, and after the obvious infection of Chavez with cancer causing agents, Venezuela had all these years to remove all of its assets out of the hands of the Fascist US regime.
What am I missing here, please? There is only one possible scenario: you can’t get your assets back anyways. Once deposited in the US, they’re gone. Why would one do that, then?
Sure, the real reason is likely to be that assets from the now nationalized oil company were transferred before it was nationalized by Chavez and they were left there by Maduro – believing Venezuela could get them back in time.
Sr. Presidente Maduro, no es posible tener cualquier tipo de acuerdos con los regímenes de Estados Unidos, o de Reino Unido. Por favor considere para el futuro. Estos son activos de la gente. Mantenerlos seguros en Venezuela.

Posted by: nottheonly1 | Aug 6 2019 18:02 utc | 163

HK ‘independence’ leaders led by JImmy Lai, Martin Lee , were seen meeting a gweilo in a plush restaurant, while HK burns.
Are they celebrating their handiwork, ?
Where else in the world could you find such a paradise for CIA/MI6 ? no wonder [[[they]]] are fighting tooth and nail to keep it that way.
Agent provocateurs attacking police, damage public properties,ransack police stations, clash with normal citizens, disrupt subway servie….
But the extradition act is already shelved, why are they still going all out to provoke the police , the govn ?
LIke I say, while the quisling JImmy Lai and his fukus mentors are bent on killing the extradition act., their agenda goes far beyond that, they wanna provoke a crackdown, they want a bloodbath.
sobs have successfully demonised China with that TAM ‘massacre’ hoax.
now they want a TAM2, with actual footage of police brutality .
CNN, Reuters, BBc, are on site with camera ready,.
its up to the agent provocateurs to do their stuff now,
I heard many frontline cadres are paid top monies.
The children of independence leaders wont be in the melee, risking injury and arrest ….
I guess they dont need the dough.
All their precious sons./daughters are working/studying in fukus, their preferred motherland.
Was it Patten who said,
‘Let the other sob die for the country’

Posted by: denk | Aug 6 2019 18:32 utc | 165

Apparently, we all missed something big said by Gabbard during the last debate (with video):
“Naturally I was disappointed when #TulsiGabbard called #Assad a dictator and voted to condemn #BDS but having her say on US Nat’l TV in the debate that #DonaldTrump is supporting Al-Qaeda in #Syria was music to my ears. Americans need to hear this truth.” [My Emphasis]
Unfortunately, I think Walid here’s mistaken:
“I was watching the latest episode of Crosstalk & @PLCROSSTALK pointed out a passage from an article written by Al Qaeda mouthpiece Josh Rogin of the @washingtonpost about @TulsiGabbard. I mean does this guy think the readers are stupid? Most people know this as the truth #Syria:
“‘Listening to Gabbard, one might think the United States initiated the Syrian conflict by arming terrorists that has resulted in untold suffering….'”
There’s a reason why the Assad Apologist smear is being used likely based on polling results and years of BigLie Media propaganda. It will be harder for Gabbard to overcome than the negative media bewailing Trump as he began his campaign. But the additional exposure might help along with more people looking for the truth about Syria.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2019 18:44 utc | 167

Chinahand Peter Lee has updated his China Trade War blog entry from last year; his intro:
“The decoupling strategy of the US China hawks is proceeding as planned. And economic pain is a feature, not a bug….
“Failure of trade negotiations was pretty much baked in, thanks to Lightizer’s maximalist demands.
“And that was fine with the China hawks.
“Because their ultimate goal was to decouple the US & PRC economies, weaken the PRC, and make it more vulnerable to domestic destabilization and global rollback.
“If decoupling shaved a few points off global GDP, hurt American businesses, or pushed the world into recession, well that’s the price o’ freedom.”
The remainder is quite the read, and one you won’t find elsewhere.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2019 19:03 utc | 169

Sasha
you can add this one to the collection of how things really function in the US
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49253691

Posted by: Mina | Aug 6 2019 21:00 utc | 171

pat lang logic… “The various governments should get busy and find the means of denying firearms to the mentally ill. pl” how about denying them to all the temporarily mentally ill too? how do you plan to do that?? another stupid concept from pat lang… too bad pl can’t see how messed up adhering to a constitution that is so outdated, it has ceased to serve the purpose intended..

Posted by: james | Aug 7 2019 0:07 utc | 173

@ donkeytale | Aug 5 2019 18:16 utc | 94

I must concur with Don Will’s comment at 92. Yours at 91 is a bit over the top. You been reading too much William Gruff for his fake take on Amerikkka is maybe what’s behind these sentiments? lol
Or maybe reading too much into Trump who definitely wants to incite open hostilities among the racist white right to exploit political divisions for his own re-election.
My feeling is like Trump is overdoing it in all respects of “governing” and it is up to Amerikkkans to back a more sympathetic leftist candidate instead of Biden because the presidency is there for the taking, especially if the next recession hits before the election as it did in 2008.

It has become a fast paced world and I did not see that you addressed me as well re. what I wrote. Maybe you will still be able to read this response.
If you must concur with Don Will’s comment, that is fine by me. But is shows that you are not without prejudice to the comment without his reply.
I don’t know who William Gruff is, nor do I know who you are, or Don Will. I see names that are likely not the real names of the commenters. Mine is not. It is a mindset, because I am not the only one that understands how this world really works. Allow me to explain why responded the way I did.
After 23 years living in the United and having paid attention under the utilization of a critical mind, I came to the following conclusion:
The American population has only to the smallest margin realized that its so called Democratic Republic has been set up to ensure an eternal rule of capital over humanity. A system was installed that lulled the population into the belief that they would have a real say in the creation of laws that would ultimately determine their lives and the way they live. A two party system promised the working class that – if they ever experienced the need to do so, that they could abolish this system and create an improved version.
Unfortunately, these were of course the first lies aimed at pacifying a growing population that became more powerful via a larger margin of those eligible to vote. ‘Negroes’ and ‘women’ were not considered to be either capable, nor undeserving of the right to vote. Please refer to the series ‘Plutocracy’ for a more detailed history of the United States electoral system.
The owner class decided for the two party system, because the best way to control a population is to divide them into two factions. It is infinitely more difficult to manipulate a population that can chose between e.g ten political parties that have to see a majority and in order to get there – compromise. There is no need to compromise with a two party system. You shuffle the so called majority back and forth – telling folks who won this time, after the traditional hype. Even though the person who would ultimately be the puppet in chief would always be selected by the owner class. Elections are part of ‘Pane et Circensis‘ – there is a thrill in the run up and when the numbers are coming in.
Debates are held to further the divisions by making people believe that there are fundamental differences between candidates. Just as today. But there are not, if not for a public relation style variance in the make up or smell of a candidate. Orwell said in Animal Farm: “The trough is always the same – only the pigs change.” Sure, that is a bitter pill to swallow, but it needs to be swallowed to free the mind of all this programming and conditioning.
You allege that I fall for the fake ham theater that you, or Don Will are still buying into. I don’t. I call myself awakened to the fact that it is all a show and a very lousy one at that. You also allege that this has anything to do with race, or white supremacy. It doesn’t. You are fooled to believe that in the same way the owners incite rage and hatred against any policies that serve The Many and not the Few. You are likely also still buying into Left versus Right, Liberal versus Conservative, or any of the other artificial divides that are swallowed hook, line and sinker by the population. In all fairness it must be said that the American people are of course not alone at that. But they are the noisiest and most gullible at it.
Not to be able to see what is really going on in North America (and most of the Western hemisphere) – beyond any ‘swamp’ or ‘deep state’, beyond artificial divisions and constant violence of one sort or another, bears a confusion in it that will forever prevent the awakening of the population. And that is the real goal of what is called TPTB. It matters not if the United States ceases to exist. The owners are like fat on top of the chicken soup. It will always be on top. Rich Fat floats on Poor Water. The poor are the working class and formerly middle class that are no longer able to stay afloat – the Fat is suffocating them.
And what is the <$ 50K per year population doing? Blaming anything that is offered to them as a culprit. Any scapegoat will do. The person who figured that out was Edward Bernays. A diehard Nazi that despised the masses. He advised both, large US corporations and the US regime, how to manipulate the population into demanding their own demise. This program prevails as long as people do not possess the mental means to look through the ultimate deception. Trump is the Matador with the red cloth for the one part of the population. He is the pied piper for the other part. That is his job. To give this person credit for anything shows that one does not really understand how it works - how one is worked, how everybody is worked based on their capabilities. While people are starting to hate each other - if they have not done so already - far reaching changes are arranged in the dark of total secrecy. Endless wars, pedophiles, minor girls pimps, socialist mass shooters, fake mass shooters, sick mass shooters, lowering the interest rate for the rich while the poor have to contend with 36%APR, unaffordable housing for full time workers, a society that makes its people sick to allow the few to profit from it - it is all part and parcel of the attempt to dehumanize human beings. To destroy Homo Sapiens by turning it into a mindless consumer that has forgotten why it evolved to where it is today in the first place. This is evolution and to not being able to understand that Homo Sapiens is not doing the evolving is the greatest obstacle for its further evolution. The Fascist US regime with the support of utterly messed up religious freaks, believes it can change the course of mankind. Those who can't see that delusion and the myriad ways it plays out are also on autopilot. It takes courage and strength to accept the truth. Trump does not know who and what he is and neither do those he surrounds himself with, in union with those who criticize him, who pretend to be different while they are of course not. It is called reflection and not for no reason a wise person once said that "The World is as you see it“. Trump is the world for you and every other human being. You are the world for everybody else. How you see others is how you are, otherwise you could not see that.
At that, the entirety of the political ham theater in the Western hemisphere is nothing but a reflection of how the members of it societies see ‘their’ world. But there is only ONE world – no matter how one twists and bends it. Intellectual, or stupid. No matter what one believes – it will forever remain ONE world with everything in it as it is.
I predict martial law coming to the United States very soon. But it will not be sold to the people as such. It will be sold as a necessary step to protect the United States from its enemies – enemies that are all made up. It will be announced in a ‘tweet’. And the ‘Democrats’ will give standing ovations to Trump for telling congress to declare war on…
Everything is not what it seems to be.

Posted by: nottheonly1 | Aug 7 2019 1:20 utc | 175

james @173
After denying guns to “mentally ill”, it seems that the next step is to determine that anyone that wants a gun is mentally ill.
IMO anyone that listens to the hate spewed by the left and right via MSM becomes mentally ill.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 7 2019 1:45 utc | 177

nottheonly1 @175: I predict martial law coming to the United States very soon.
Not sure about martial law but I’ve been thinking that USA establishment may introduce a guest worker program similar to Israel and Saudi programs.
America is addicted to cheap labor but they don’t want more central and South American citizens. Both the fake left and fake right shills will rejoice – while remaining silent about the greatly expanded policing that the government needs for such a system.
@james: expect the same in Canada 2-10 years after USA. Probably Europe too.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 7 2019 1:59 utc | 179

Please read “Trump’s war on the Fed could shatter the stock market” and the bond market:
“The president’s many attempts to control Fed policy threaten the central bank’s independence and present a grave danger for markets and investors.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 7 2019 2:29 utc | 180
You are being sucked in by fake news.
James has mentioned the creature from jekyll island; a must read for anyone who wants to know how the banking system works.
However here is a good documentary that draws heavily from that book.
“Century of Enslavement: The History of The Federal Reserve”
https://www.corbettreport.com/federalreserve/

Posted by: O | Aug 7 2019 2:40 utc | 181

@ Jackrabbit | Aug 7 2019 1:59 utc | 179

Not sure about martial law but I’ve been thinking that USA establishment may introduce a guest worker program similar to Israel and Saudi programs.

It’s getting late here, but I wanted to respond to You before the lights go out.
How NOT to respond to shootings
I just found this on RT and for what it’s worth, it follows exactly my predictions for which someone else gave me some words of disbelief. This is already on autopilot. The owners want total distraction from preparations for the upcoming big war. Nothing better than the population shooting itself up. That keeps everybody off the streets. At a moment when the world really needs a massive anti-war movement on the streets. Although the anti-war movement will now be considered ‘domestic terrorism’ by the FBI.

Posted by: nottheonly1 | Aug 7 2019 2:49 utc | 183

To add to the books that one can read about the US Fed, I suggest William Greider’s “The Secrets of The Temple”
I am also “enjoying” Cobbett’s “Paper against Gold” which documents the founding of The City of London Corporation in 1694 and subsequent going away from gold/value based money in the late 1700’s………. H/T to bevin Fiat money is debt and only useful as long as there is FAITH in it.
There is only one empire and the cornerstone of it is global private finance…..owned by ?????? but they have managed to brainwash folks into believing it is all jews to provide another level of indirection away from the real owners of the Western way of Top/Bottom life

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 7 2019 3:14 utc | 185

“I get 3 million results, most of them describing his ambivalence/hostility to the institution”
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 7 2019 3:18 utc | 186
You are being suckered in by fake news, note that article speaks about the Fed’s ‘independence’
In pro wrestling this called kayfabe. Trump supposed ‘anger’ at the Fed for not cutting rates fast enough is a joke because that is what the Fed wants to do basically Quantitative easing but not calling it that. Keep inflating the asset bubble just like Clinton’s Dotcom boom and eventual bust. I am sure one of Trump’s economic advisors told him he could ride that boom wave(if the dufus even understands it) but is likely being set up as the fall guy for the big bust.
Trump is no Andrew Jackson the only thing those two have in common is their ignorant racism.

Posted by: O | Aug 7 2019 3:39 utc | 187

Tucker Carlson has been dipping into the K…K…K Koolaid!
Next, he’ll be wearing thr white robe and pointed mask.

Posted by: Circe | Aug 7 2019 4:46 utc | 189

Dammit all, how’s a guy supposed to just skim this and go to bed? (Mental note: next time I say I’m just “stopping by for a look,” don’t believe me.)
b @ your take on the Russian bear not rising to stale bait: Seeing Putin’s “no world-historical mission” worldview is brilliant. As we say around here, “Damn, dude!” IBIYVD
Circe @ 39:

This is about three issues colliding: an inability to address alienation and mental illness in a compassionate and effective way beyond calling someone crazy and throwing pills at them, rising addiction to…guns, and the demograhic/social conflict and insecurity mass migration produces further stoked by racists.
Mass migration is caused by three avoidable factors neglected and/or created by our dear corrupt leaders: poverty, violence (via weapons and war) and climate change.
Political corruption via corporate, weapons industry and foreign lobby influence causes our leaders to generate more poverty, more violence and to neglect climate change.
Add to this toxic mix, the dumb mass’s out-of-control MATERIALISM in a vacum of non-existant spirituality.
The world is doomed.

You confuse me. We’re to have compassion for the mentally ill, but not the “dumb mass”? Is that a singular dumb mass, or are we many?
Those are my kin you’re dissin’, friend.
Well reasoned, sounds many of my kind of notes, and yet self-refuting. You compassion seems not to last more than a few paragraphs. Pointing, blaming, and shaming are so old hat. Surely that’s not all you got?
karlof1 @ 40, earlier, and the surrounding field as far as the eye can see: well said, sir, IBIYVD.
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I had a misgiving about my first post, but I got over it. No, I did not name my muses human, such as that incomparably fair lady,… (psst, that’s your cue, Sister, say your name!) “Wolfstonecraft, Mary Wolfstonecraft.”
I arrive with Her colors flying as high as I can get them. If you don’t know what these colors mean, or why a gentleman might fly so high his muse’s colors, yet never call them out, then I’m doing it wrong.
If that’s the case, then my misgiving was misplaced, and it’s to my fair ladies that I now bow.

Posted by: TheOtherDave | Aug 7 2019 5:53 utc | 191

@ Don Wills | Aug 6 2019 1:35 utc | 136

@101 – Wow! Doubling down on your non-sequitur argumentation style won’t win you any arguments. It will just make people disengage from you.
FWIW, your dismissal of my claim that I’m not a paid shill (2) could be used as a response to my age claim (1), and for that matter anything else I write. And yet you respond with many words attacking strawmen over ideas that I never wrote about. Your projection of who I am is as wrong as any I’ve seen in commentland. No I did not vote for Trump. I didn’t vote for Hillary either. Trump is probably the single most narcissistic person I’ve ever observed either by first hand experience or through the media. He is an amoral man, is certainly not a Christian, and has seemingly no guiding principles. He is truly an empty vessel. He does seem to have a fondness for Jews though, having married one and with all of his other familial connections to Zionists. His reliance on Sheldon Adelson as a primary advisor is most telling. I am all in on the Occupy Wall Street movement – the big banks are truly evil, having captured our government for their own enrichment. Ron Paul had one thing right – End the Fed.
And also FWIW, no I don’t remember the McCarthy hearings. I was too young. And yes, I agree that the government of the USA has been imperialist for a long time (since at least the 1840’s). My first window to that was Viet Nam, a truly criminal enterprise initiated by the CIA and the MIC, the precursor of what we today call the deep state. Ike’s prophetic warning in his farewell speech is chilling. A book that I recommend all should read is The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America’s Secret Government.
And finally, with respect to your dismissal of word meanings and dictionaries – the inability for conversants to agree on word meanings invariably ends with separation and even violence. That’s the future I see for the people of the USA.

Due to the nature of this board, I missed that you responded to my response. The train to converse about this exchange might have left the station.
However, I like to peel out the essential difference between you and I. That is not a difference in an existential way – since we are both not only in the same boat, but of the same Universe.
Where we differ is in your oneupmanship style response. It was you who was dismissive of what I wrote independently from you. That is, because my world view differs from yours. But unlike the impression of your response alleging that my words do not suit your world view, I only respond to where there is an overlapping area. And yes, it was you who had a problem with the way I express myself – including the Orwell ‘compliment’.
When I comment on this board, I don’t do that to anyone specific, unless the opportunity arises. What I comment on has obviously created the desire to do so. On the other hand, responses like yours make it clear that deviating not only with one’s view of the world and specifically of the US world, will not be tolerated. In some way of ‘Gleichschaltung‘ there is a mutual tapping on the shoulder phenomenon to be observed here. Groups of commenters generally pat each other on the shoulders, dismissing the views and opinions of others.
While I made my own world – as Pippi Longstocking reassured me would be the way – it is still the world with everything in it, with all ‘going-ons’. Where I come from, there is no artificial division. That is the reason why I detect it so easily. Throwing around fancy words is not a sign of superior intellect. It is the plain language – with words that do not exist in the dictionary, but are to be understood easily – that are at the core of my writing.
Your response followed by the one by donkeytale give the impression this is some sort of club here, where a specific mindset is required. I reject that idea and can only advise for anybody to keep an open mind, or to develop one. That is the most important task for a human being.
To recap:
I do not mind who you are, how old you are, where you are, what the color of your skin is, or your gender, or your political beliefs. All that is your ‘business’ – lacking a better term. You do as you see fit and so do what goes for I. What I do mind is, that you do not see that the way you responded to my original comment is a reflection of yourself. Correcting me for the differing ways I express myself and the way I ‘see’ the world is what is not conducive to any form of Thinking Together as Krishnamurti pointed out.
And when you accept my responses being the reflection to your own ways of responding, then there is a chance that you will find out that we are not only sitting in the same sinking boat, but that we are the boat. No matter how anybody tries to deny this fact. We ARE the world.
Last but not least, I also do not mind that certain commenters would ‘read over’ what I write. It is not a lack to me. As long as the ‘owner’ of this blog does not see any problems with what I write, that long I will comment here ‘The World According to Nottheonly1.
Maybe this is not the best way to have a conversation, but it may be the only way it can be done. Example given: having an exchange by writing each other letters. To those who really care, I am always open for an honest dialogue. Always.
Now, let’s see what is unfolding in the world, shall we?

Posted by: nottheonly1 | Aug 7 2019 11:53 utc | 193

Major report about Trump’s battle with Fed. I rest my case.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 7 2019 15:00 utc | 195

@195 karlof1… thanks… if you read those michael hudson articles, you will see that trump has no say on what the federal reserve does, outside he knee jerk reactions as described in the sputnik article…. he is on the outside saying stupid shit and all his flapping amounts to nought… wall st is calling the shots, not him… read the hudson articles to get more of an insight who is in the drivers seat.. it is wall st, not trump…

Posted by: james | Aug 7 2019 15:39 utc | 197

Major report about Trump’s battle with Fed. I rest my case.
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 7 2019 15:00 utc | 195
You probably think pro-wrestling is real.Lol.

Posted by: O | Aug 7 2019 16:42 utc | 199