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Epstein Suicided
Unsurprisingly Jeffrey Epstein was found dead, presumably by suicide, as that is what 'officials' claim:
Jailed multimillionaire financier and accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein has died by suicide, according to two law enforcement sources.
He was taken from New York's Metropolitan Correctional Center on Saturday morning in cardiac arrest and died at an area hospital, the sources told CNN.
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Just weeks ago, Epstein was placed on a suicide watch after he was found July 23 in his Manhattan jail cell with marks on his neck, a law enforcement source and a source familiar with the incident told CNN at the time.
Just yesterday a court released the first 2,000 pages of a civil case against Epstein's madame, Ghislaine Maxwell:
The documents, the largest cache to be released in the 13 years since Epstein’s case began, offer brutal details about Epstein’s trafficking of teenage girls in Palm Beach, New York and overseas — as well as Maxwell’s obsessive and often abusive quest to provide him with new girls over a span of years in the early to mid 2000s.
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[Epstein victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre], who turned 36 on Friday, names a number of other men in politics, academia and business that she says she was directed to have sex with. In a 2017 interview with the Miami Herald, Giuffre said that Epstein wanted her to please various influential people then so that he could learn about their sexual peccadilloes and use them as leverage if he needed to.
While there’s no direct evidence contained in the court record substantiating her accounts with prominent men, Giuffre did provide testimony and evidence to corroborate her claims of exploitation at the hands of Epstein and Maxwell through photographs, plane logs and even a medical record from Presbyterian Hospital in New York where Giuffre was taken by Epstein after a particularly abusive sex episode.
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Some of the testimony released Friday is difficult to read, as when one 15-year-old Swedish girl, shaking and crying in fear, told a butler who worked for two of Epstein’s closest friends that she had been taken to Epstein’s private island in the Caribbean and ordered to have sex with him and others. The butler, in a sworn statement, said the girl, visibly traumatized, told him that Epstein and Maxwell had physically threatened to harm her and seized her passport to keep her on the island, according to the butler’s statement.
The released court papers can be found via Courthousenews.
Some of those influential people who Epstein, or the organization behind him, blackmailed, will be quite happy that he is gone. They will now try to bury the rest of the case. Giuffre and other witnesses better watch their backs.
@Jason – somewhere in the 130s:
Trust me dude, I know all about MK Ultra and Operation Gladio in Europe. I am a big Kennedy assassination buff. I also know that the U.S. government has lied about and covered up or prevented proper investigations into many other events. But let’s use logic here re: El Paso. First I will tell you that if you believe that there were 4 shooters after what I am going to tell you here, you are an idiot and I don’t want to entertain any further replies. So with that out of the way…
I have been to that Wal Mart too many times to count. That’s not particularly relevant, but it should demonstrate that I’ve got some familiarity with it and the layout. This will also come into play with respect to some of the stuff out there in the media, including the conspiracy pushers. The parking lot is raised up from normal street level and it’s about 50-60 feet up from the level of the access road (Gateway West). Wal Mart is also NOT VISIBLE from the Cielo Vista mall due to several factors, the difference in height, the presence of a movie theater, Hooters, Landry’s seafood, Sam’s Club, other restaurants and other buildings and VERY large parking lots and a few streets in between. The distance is approximately 1/4-2/5 of a mile from the nearest wall of Cielo Vista mall (which was Dillards West (Mens) (there are two Dillards) last I checked) and the Foot Locker from where the alleged “American Hero” (the black dude who was concealed carrying) is buried somewhere WELL inside CVM, if not on the total opposite side which would be near Macy’s and Hawkins Blvd. That is about a half mile from Wal Mart. And guess what – I just checked and I was right. It’s AS FAR AWAY from Wal Mart as one can get in CVM without being Macy’s: https://www.simon.com/mall/cielo-vista-mall/stores/foot-locker
So FORGET anything you are reading about what happened inside Cielo Vista Mall because it’s totally irrelevant and a red herring in the way I am seeing the media throw it into narratives. Including media outlets getting facts mixed up with respect to CVM and Wal Mart including who’s a “hero” (not the black dude shuttling kids out of Foot Locker) and another black guy who I actually KNOW Chris Grant (he graduated a few years before me) was INSIDE WAL MART and he reported ONE SHOOTER at whom he engaged with bottles because the shooter (Crusius in the black v-neck, shooting glasses, ear protection and cargo pants seen in EVERY picture taken by Wal Mart, the media, a member of the public, and the first responders – that’s the basis of another conspiracy theory making the rounds on twitter – that he wasn’t wearing “cargo pants” in all pics – nonsense) initially passed over him likely due to the fact he’s clearly NOT Hispanic. He ended up getting shot in the leg and back for his troubles.
To the initial ALLEGED accounts from ONE OR TWO individuals that there were more than one shooter, I have seen the MSM (not the conspiracy people) mixing up quotes and the conspiracy pushers taking segments of those quotes out of context and shuffling them around. So far I have seen ONE person saying that she say 4 shooters (all together?! yeah right and only killing 20 on the scene with 2,500+ people in the relatively small Wal Mart store?) and even her statement is dubious for the purpose of establishing that version. Furthermore, the shooter was caught about 1/10th of a mile away in his car leaving the scene. There was no narrative management going on prior to his arrest. My friend of a long time managed at least the majority of the first response calls at the command center there. He’s not a cop, but a former “high ranking” EPFD fireman and EMT. The cops arrived at the scene within 6 minutes.
On top of that, there were at least two (probably just two) concealed carry citizens in Wal Mart, one of whom at least was detained by cops as an initially suspected shooter because he had drawn his weapon, but let go. The shooter was long gone by that point and patrol car pulled him over for the arrest on a nearby street corner (you can see it in pictures including the conspiracy minded Twatters’ feeds). There was a lot of confusion. But there are also numerous videos taken by phone cams making the rounds that show people under tables and you can clearly hear the sound of a SINGLE rifle being fired within the store at the time of the shooting. The initial stories ON THE GROUND were that there were TWO shooters with one dead and one on the run (the Crusius guy) but nobody was in the store to shoot them and the dead “shooter” was actually just a customer.
My friend was at that Wal Mart yesterday and they had a brown VW Passat under canopies while the shooter was pulled over in a Honda Civic. Who knows what’s up with the Passat, but I have scoured my social media accounts for people who knew someone at the store and not a single one was willing to say there were more than one based on what they had been told. My next door neighbor, as I mentioned earlier, was on the phone with one of her sons just as the shooter entered the store. The media is not reporting any more on her because the family had enough and the son in question is already back in his own state (funeral was Friday). Trust me on this too – I traffic in circles that are VERY conspiracy minded on social media (meaning my own friends and acquaintances on FB and in my phone contacts list). Still, none of them are buying the 4-shooter B.S. I will follow up on this Passat story as I am able, and I’ll be there in about 2 weeks so you can be sure I will be asking around without trying to inflame any sentiments. It’s a very close knit city; much more so than any other Texas city and probably city of that size anywhere in the U.S.
Let’s just use logic anyway – when you actually break down the timeline, the geographical/physical details of the general area, take note of where everything is in comparison to Wal Mart and read what people are really saying, the whole 4-shooter story evaporates. That’s why there are some, such as the “cargo pants” angle, trying so hard to hang onto any shred of a theory that they can use to gain followers and views. And if there were indeed FOUR shooters all in the same basic vicinity, then the one girl saying so would be dead along with anybody she happened to be with at the time, yet none were even shot. She was clearly Hispanic and not very bright looking, no offense to her.
I literally cannot wait for the first full-scale YouTube productions (or other platform if they get removed) that purport to put the whole thing together into a solid-seeming narrative “proving” there were multiple shooters. But when they do, and if you see one, know this: THEY ARE BUNK.
Anyway like I said I’ll be there soon enough and if there is ANYTHING suspicious about the ‘official story’ (so far the only thing “official” is that Patrick Crusius did the shooting) I will make note of it in a follow-up providing the topic is closely enough related that I can get away with another novel like the one I’m typing here.
I apologize to the rest of the thread, but this incident truly did hit home, and I am in a unique (for MoA) position to shed light on it.
Posted by: KC | Aug 11 2019 17:43 utc | 360
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