Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
July 04, 2019

Open Thread 2019-37

News & views ...

Posted by b on July 4, 2019 at 15:41 UTC | Permalink

next page »

At last, a dramatic military operation against Iran, assault on an oil tanker:

Eyes on Iran as Britain seizes oil tanker over Syria sanctions

Eyes on Iran as Britain seizes oil tanker over Syria sanctions

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 4 2019 15:54 utc | 1

How much lower can the UK go? The Tory government, with its Blairite allies in in a limbo dancing contest with the Liberals in Ottawa. The winner gets to lick Netanyahu's boots.

Posted by: bevin | Jul 4 2019 16:26 utc | 2

I'm curious to see how Iran will respond to England seizing their ships as this behaviour is traditionally considered an act of war and the UK is in an even weaker position than the US in the Middle East. As I recall, the UK just returned their ambassador to Iran a couple years ago after boycotting them for several years. At the very least I imagine Iran will expel a couple of the UK spies at the embassy. For bonus points the EU looks even more toothless and pathetic as the US is ordering a EU member around like a hired thug to undermine the official EU policy on Iran.

Posted by: Kadath | Jul 4 2019 16:26 utc | 3

BDS Got to say this before the D and R's make it illegal. Free Assange and too many others. Truth is good. Wage Peace, and thank you moon children !

Posted by: ChuckNoBomb | Jul 4 2019 16:33 utc | 4

As I expected, Pepe Escobar reviews the situation in a calm fashion with his usual whimsical flair by tying the ill-fated Russian submersible into the dialog. He links through Politico (an excellent use of tongue-in-cheek) to last May's scurrilous Pentagon Report regarding Russia's intentions some of us waded through. Appropriately, Pepe focused on the EU-3 as they're the key players to preserving peace in this contrived crisis. As for TrumpCo, it's Outlaw US Empire SOP of sowing chaos from a playbook well known by the intended targets, which is why nothing happened with yesterday's provocation. Now we have the UK doing the provoking when they ought to be buying enriched uranium! And the beat goes on.....

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2019 16:53 utc | 5

Perfect day - US of A birthday - for an emotionally potent false-flag.

"They attacked the US on the July the 4th!"

Will breath easier on July 5th.

By the way, most people will probably answer July 4th to this question:
"On what day was the Declaration of Independence signed?"

ps. if one of your fire works doen't go off, DO NOT - DO NOT - look down the tube.
Have a nice, safe day.

Posted by: librul | Jul 4 2019 17:00 utc | 6

karlof1 @6: This does seem inconsistent with the JCPOA, seizing the tanker, which Britain claims to want to support. I'm on tenterhooks waiting for the reactions in foreign capitals to start coming in. Thnx for Pepe link.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 4 2019 17:06 utc | 7

the Houthi are now claiming to have destroyed a US made patriot missile system in Saudi Arabia, regardless of the actual track record of the Patriot missile system in combat they certainly won't work against Iranian missiles if the Houthi destroy the launchers. If true, this would significantly weaken Saudi Arabia's air defensives in the event of a US war on Iran. This looks like the Iranians are slowly increasing support for the Houthi as part of their counter pressure strategy on the US/Saudi/Israel axis.

Posted by: Kadath | Jul 4 2019 17:07 utc | 8

Hawkish media scribes in Canada have spent the past week lambasting China and decrying what they describe as weakness and timidity on the part of the federal government over China's "attacks" on Canadian interests. Arm Taiwan! Send more naval ships to South China Sea! Free Hong Kong! The sneaky detention of one of China's top business executives and extradition hearings to hand her over to the Americans on sketchy "bank fraud" charges based on unilateral sanction programs eight years ago? Just a procedural matter, just the rule of law at work... Ugly chauvinism at work, but an isolated, angry, and futile dominion appears to be what the country's elite establishment really want.

Posted by: jayc | Jul 4 2019 17:09 utc | 9

Spain’s caretaker Foreign Minister Josep Borrell said the British targeted the tanker on a request from the US. He added that Spain, which considers the waters off Gibraltar as its own, was assessing the implications of the operation.

Iran has reportedly acknowledged ownership of the cargo. Its foreign ministry summoned the British ambassador in Tehran to protest the “unlawful seizure of the Iranian tanker,” according to the IRNA news agency.

According to Reuters, the MT Grace 1 has been used by Iran in the past to ship crude to Singapore and China in defiance of unilateral sanctions imposed against Iran by the US. The current trip allegedly started in Iran’s port of Bandar Assalyeh, thought the papers state that the crude was loaded in the Iraqi port of Basra.

In seizing the tanker under the pretext of sanctions on Syria, the EU seems to be at least partially siding with Washington, which is trying to cripple the Iranian economy through harsh economic sanctions. The pressure campaign was escalated after the US broke its commitment under the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran.

“Maybe the EU was trying to show that it was siding with the Americans, playing its part in anti-Iranian policy? We know that the Trump administration has been critical of the European countries,” Ali Rizk, a Middle East-based journalist and writer, told RT.

“And it’s likely a demonstration against Syria. It all helps an ongoing plan of parting Syria with its allies.”

Posted by: james | Jul 4 2019 17:10 utc | 10

@1 Allegedly(?), this oil tanker sailed from Basra in Iraq (not Iran) and remarkably went around Africa rather than sail through the Suez, and further it allegedly also turned it's transponder off(?)... as usual, we'll have to wait for real facts to emerge. It's still quite unusual to intercept an oil tanker so blatantly when much more nefarious shipments are going on.

Seems to me certain western governments do whatever they want, and no longer care about international legalities.

Posted by: Ant. | Jul 4 2019 17:13 utc | 11

Don't worry, Putin- apologists. Russia will call the UK's brazen act of piracy "regrettable". No doubt Russia will call on 'both sides' to show 'restraint'. Maybe, if Iran pleads submissively enough, they could get some s-400s that don't/won't work to upgrade their s-300s that don't/won't work.

Posted by: paul | Jul 4 2019 17:14 utc | 12

Nearly half of global wages received by top 10%, survey finds: ILO says bottom half of all workers paid just 6% of total pay with wage inequality rising in developed world

Data is from 2004 to 2017.

Excerpt (first three paragraphs):

Nearly half of all global pay is scooped up by just 10% of workers, according to the International Labour Organization (ILO), while the lowest-paid 50% receive just 6.4%.

The lowest 20% – around 650 million workers – get less than 1% of total pay, a figure that has barely moved in 13 years, the ILO analysis found. It used labour income figures from 2004 to 2017, the latest available data.

A worker in the top 10% receives $7,445 a month (£5,866), while a worker in the bottom 10% gets just $22.

Posted by: vk | Jul 4 2019 17:14 utc | 13

jayc @10

As a Can-knucklehead I am sad to say I agree 100%. In 2005, Kurt Vonnegut quoted Susan Sontag: "10 percent of any population is cruel, no matter what, and that 10 percent is merciful, no matter what, and that the remaining 80 percent could be moved in either direction."

Posted by: spudski | Jul 4 2019 17:19 utc | 14

As Tulsi Gabbard outlines the steps Trump has taken to manufacture consent to war with Iran.

How come Stuxnet, Zero days malicious computer worm/virus is not mentioned? We and our 'chosen people' ally and Harem Keeper (read slave owner) the (chop chop square) Oil Sheiks, has long ago declared war on Iran by cyberwarfare. Conveniently forgotten or highly likely NOT mentioned on purpose.

Closerto home, Wonder how much money our town is spending on celebrating this bullshit trigger theater of aMERICA? While traumatizing kids and families for life, at the border. While we (the working caste) shoot guns, cry and sing and drink the lee greenwood songs... this country needs an enama. Remember to vote, Coke and or Pepsi! P.S. phuq your fusion center.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 4 2019 17:21 utc | 15

Meanwhile, the EU proves it is not only undemocratic, but also decadent:

'Von der Leyen's Nomination is Obviously Result of Backroom Deal Orchestrated by Merkel' - Prof

If it was only von der Leyen, it would be bad but not catastrophic; however, another batch of nobodies were nominated undemocratically, including ex-IMF Christine Legarde to the ECB. Those names demonstrate the EU's neoliberal dictatorship model, where a kabuki Parliament does the job of the Senatus during the imperial phase of Rome.

How many more defeats at the hands of the far-right will the neoliberal center need to accept the EU is a dead end?

Posted by: vk | Jul 4 2019 17:25 utc | 16

Grace1 tanker was being tracked for a long time

is from three months ago.

She is now Panama flagged (presumably) Russian owned

IMO number 9116412
Name of the ship GRACE 1
MMSI 355271000
Gross tonnage 156880 tons
DWT 273769 tons
Year of build 1997
Former names MERIDIAN LION until 2013 Mar
MERIDIAN LION until 2006 Feb

The reason for holding the ship is given as breaking EU sanctions on Syria. Not JCPOA related (in principle).

Here is a short but incomplete primer on Gibraltar territorial waters. The even more extreme Spanish view is that only the port is Gibraltarian, or simply that Gibraltar is Spanish.

Posted by: gzon | Jul 4 2019 17:28 utc | 17

Trump recently insulted the Spain Prime Minister, that may help Iran

Spanish media outlets have reacted angrily to an apparent snub of Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez by President Donald Trump as the pair met at the G20 meeting in Osaka, Japan.
The incident occurred as Trump entered a meeting of G20 leaders and walked past Sanchez, who was preparing to take his seat.
The left-wing prime minister turned to greet the president, but Trump barely broke his stride before pointing Sanchez back to his seat and walking on. The president said something to the prime minister as he did so, but it was not clear what.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 4 2019 17:37 utc | 19

FM Zarif: “Iran has a PhD in sanctions busting.”

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 4 2019 17:43 utc | 20

A curiosity (for the people who want to hear the other side of the story):

I became the face of the angry left at the Trump protest. It ruined my life. This is my open letter. - by Siobhan Prigent (the infamous “mad woman” who called a Trump supporter a “Nazi scum”)

Posted by: vk | Jul 4 2019 17:45 utc | 21

Just to note Grace1 is anchored off the south east of Gibraltar, within the 3 mile Gibraltar limit now, I don't know if she was stopped inside that zone, or why she would venture into that 3 mile zone. In short it will be important to know what position she was when boarded, the only info I have is that she veered hard to port into the Gibraltar 3 mile limit, but am not sure if before or after being boarded. The Spanish government has said it tolerates Gibraltar "acting in its waters" in this case because the action was based on EU sanctions.

Posted by: gzon | Jul 4 2019 17:48 utc | 22

current news - TOLONews
>The Hour Has Come For Peace In Afghanistan: Pompeo . .here
old news, seven years ago - BBC
>Obama in Afghanistan: 'We must replace war with peace' . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 4 2019 17:50 utc | 23

@ 23
Here's a (complicated) look at Gibaltar's territorial waters.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 4 2019 17:56 utc | 24

Global Times looks into Trump's overlooked rant during the post-G20 presser about the Treaty between Japan and Outlaw US Empire, which I found enlightening since that relationship isn't written about often. An important point to remember is the role of that treaty in blocking the ability of Russia and Japan to reach their treaty formally ending WW2--the potential for Outlaw US Empire forces to be placed on Kuril islands since Japan doesn't have full sovereignty.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2019 18:00 utc | 25

@ 26
news report from TASS:
Russian Foreign Ministry sends protest to Japan for marking Kurils as Japanese
According to Ministry’s spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, such actions by the Japanese side "negatively affect the atmosphere of the Russian-Japanese relations"

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 4 2019 18:06 utc | 26

The significant hawkish wing of Canada's establishment rejects the policy of diversified economy based on international trade, and prefers to become a belligerent junior partner in the Anglo 5 Eyes hegemony project. M.K. Bhadrakumar posted a fascinating article yesterday on one facet of this project - detailing how the U.S. meddles in Sri Lankan affairs with the goal of establishing unwanted military facilities:

Posted by: jayc | Jul 4 2019 18:13 utc | 27

SyrianaAnalysis founder Kevork Almassian spins the tanker arrest thusly:

"While #ISIS was stealing the Syrian oil & selling it to #Turkey, the so-called #US led coalition (#UK included) against Daesh wasn't interested in stopping the theft of #Syria's oil.

"But today the UK stopped an oil tanker delivering energy to the Syrian people."

Quite witty, IMO. Note the EU-3 all supported the terrorist invasion of Syria, the destruction of Libya, and NATO's accusing Iran of sponsoring terrorism.

Pompeo's new slogan: Terrorism daily baby!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2019 18:20 utc | 28

@20 the right don't like Sanchez, old story of Spain. At the moment there is no proper government, has been like this for a few years, lots of elections and changes and stalemates. Even now after elections Sanchez is minority in parliament and not sure if he can form a stable government. People keep voting till they get it right I suppose, it's the EU way. I don't think the Spanish are very concerned for Iran at all, the antiwar movement is a feature of the country, but only more vocal when own country participating, as in Iraq.

Posted by: gzon | Jul 4 2019 18:24 utc | 29

Magnier tweeted this

#IRGC can, potentially, stop any tanker headed towards the #UK, and sailing in the Gulf said Iranian sources.

#USA is using #Europe as a shield to stand in front of #Iran only 3 days apart of Iran's announcement (expected) of its partial withdrawal from the JCPOA

Posted by: lgfocus | Jul 4 2019 18:25 utc | 30

Cause of fire in Russian sub - Sputnik

Posted by: Featherless | Jul 4 2019 18:26 utc | 31

On the Russian sub that was involved in the accident.


Posted by: lgfocus | Jul 4 2019 18:36 utc | 32

The other night at the dead end of the MoA Week in Review open thread was posted a comment which read in part:

Imagine posting comments like the ones above on Unz Review.

Imagine actually believing these comments

Even worse: Imagine having to comment on a blog where the moderator posts child-like comments like the ones above

If b. were the moderator at Unz Reviewer, 95 percent of the comments would have to be deleted for “anti-semitism”

Imagine if Louis-Ferdinand Céline’s “Bagatelles pour un massacre” or Martin Heidegger’s Gesamtausgabe had been submitted to b. for publication

I think it’s safe to assume that those two works of genius (and many others) would never have seen the light of day

Compared to Unz Review, this blog is like kindergarten for special needs children

Posted by: Ferdinand Bardamu | Jul 3 2019 2:20 utc | 182

Interesting that b (and bravo to him) deleted parts of the comment he believed to be anti-semitic but left the criticism of him to stand.

This also got me to thinking about "Journey to the End of the Night" which is one of my absolute favourite books of all time.

My other most favourite "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" of course shares many similarities with "Journey": both are picaresque, misanthropic black comic adventures told in first person argot, both completely captivated my imagination when I first read them as a young adult (Finn I first read as a child but of course only grokked the grand escape adventure part and never understood the blistering critique of slavery and "polite" (white) Amerikkkan society).

And most curiously, except for the first time through, I have never been able to finish either book upon re-reading, something which I attempt around every 10-15 years or so.

That these books are so damnably, cynically entertaining and yet so dead-on regarding the most important historical and social aspects of their peculiar times/places for me makes me treasure them as timeless representations of the essential rottenness of western civilisation.

I can only speculate that my inability to complete either stems from the fact that the comic horrors described still remain unfinished in society and like my personal picaresque life itself, the energy and fascination with the action that I experienced so vividly in my youth and the resulting expectations I grew in my mind of some gloriously grand finale to come, I now realise the best parts have already happened and in the very end I will simply put the book of life down without ever completely finishing it.

Posted by: donkeytale | Jul 4 2019 18:45 utc | 33

Thanks to Karl Ruane Sorry for the long text, in my opinion PM May is once again breaching International law.
The straits of Gibraltar is an international waterway in much the same way the straits of Hormuz and the English Channel are.

If the ship was hijacked in international waters as a result of unilateral 'sanctions' that does not emanate from the United Nations Security Council, it is an act of Piracy, pure and simple.

In much the same way it would be if Iran hijacked an american tanker in international waters in the straits of Hormuz as a result of any unilateral Iranian-imposed 'sanctions'.

" Importantly for the Strait of Gibraltar, it, along with a number of other strategically important straits throughout the world, was the subject of special attention during the negotiations at the Third United Nations Conference on the Law of the Sea resulting in recognition being granted to a new regime of transit passage which applied in certain international straits. The right of transit passage permits shipping a right of navigation for the purposes of ‘continuous and expeditious transit of the strait’ (Art. 38 (2) UN Convention on the Law of the Sea) and thereby allows for ongoing navigation rights of access and egress to the Mediterranean Sea. Navigational rights through the Strait of Gibraltar are therefore in the first instance governed by the transit passage regime of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, supplemented by additional international instruments dealing with matters such as safety of shipping (see also Maritime Safety Regulations), and protection of the marine environment (Marine Environment, International Protection), and in addition applicable coastal State laws and regulations adopted by the strait States in conformity with international law."

Scope of this section
This section applies to straits which are used for international navigation between one part of the high seas or an exclusive economic zone and another part of the high seas or an exclusive economic zone.

Right of transit passage
1. In straits referred to in article 37, all ships and aircraft enjoy the right of transit passage, which shall not be impeded; except that, if the strait is formed by an island of a State bordering the strait and its mainland, transit passage shall not apply if there exists seaward of the island a route through the high seas or through an exclusive economic zone of similar convenience with respect to navigational and hydrographical characteristics.
2. Transit passage means the exercise in accordance with this Part of the freedom of navigation and overflight solely for the purpose of continuous and expeditious transit of the strait between one part of the high seas or an exclusive economic zone and another part of the high seas or an exclusive economic zone. However, the requirement of continuous and expeditious transit does not preclude passage through the strait for the purpose of entering, leaving or returning from a State bordering the strait, subject to the conditions of entry to that State.
3. Any activity which is not an exercise of the right of transit passage through a strait remains subject to the other applicable provisions of this Convention.

Posted by: Harry Law | Jul 4 2019 18:55 utc | 34

There's a good interview with Michael Hudson regarding the World Bank and the IMF at Naked Capitalism today. An excerpt:

Bonnie Faulkner: What is the difference between the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, the IMF? Is there a difference?

Michael Hudson: Yes, there is. The World Bank was supposed to make loans for what they call international development. “Development” was their euphemism for dependency on U.S. exports and finance. This dependency entailed agricultural backwardness – opposing land reform, family farming to produce domestic food crops, and also monetary backwardness in basing their monetary system on the dollar.

The World Bank was supposed to provide infrastructure loans that other countries would go into debt to pay American engineering firms, to build up their export sectors and their plantation sectors by public investment roads and port development for imports and exports. Essentially, the Bank financed long- investments in the foreign trade sector, in a way that was a natural continuation of European colonialism. ...

Posted by: spudski | Jul 4 2019 19:07 utc | 35

Link above to Oxford public International law was cutoff, please see below:

Posted by: Harry Law | Jul 4 2019 19:08 utc | 36

@34 Thank you Harry Law for the details.

I understand the vessel is registered in Panama.
So maybe if the seizure is endorsed by Panama this makes it legal in regard of international law?

Posted by: theosch | Jul 4 2019 19:08 utc | 37

@34 Thank you Harry Law for the details.

I understand the vessel is registered in Panama.
So maybe if the seizure is endorsed by Panama this makes it legal in regard of international law?

Posted by: theosch | Jul 4 2019 19:08 utc | 38

re: Freedom of Navigation and "threats"
WaPo, June 27
BRUSSELS — NATO allies gave the U.S. no firm commitments that they will participate in a global effort to secure international waterways against threats from Iran, acting Defense Secretary Mark Esper said Thursday, wrapping up his first alliance meeting.
“At the end of the day what our ask is here, near term, is to publicly condemn Iran’s bad behavior,” Esper said as he prepared to leave Brussels. “And in the meantime, in order to avoid a military escalation, help us maintain the freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz, in the Persian Gulf and wherever.” . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 4 2019 19:21 utc | 39

re Paul #13

"Maybe, if Iran pleads submissively enough, they could get some s-400s that don't/won't work to upgrade their s-300s that don't/won't work."

Paul, Im curious, which missile did the Iranians use to down that "stealth" drone the other day. Cos forgive but it did seem like it worked just fine. If something didnt work, I would argue it was the "stealth" properties of the $120mn drone.

Did I miss something?

Posted by: Harry | Jul 4 2019 19:31 utc | 40

orders -- international and rules-based

from Rand
Understanding the Current International Order

Since 1945, the United States has pursued its global interests by building and maintaining various alliances, economic institutions, security organizations, political and liberal norms, and other tools — often collectively referred to as the international order. . .The primary reason that we and others are focusing attention on the international order today is because it is perceived to be at risk — and, by extension, U.S. interests served by the order might also be at risk. . .here

recent news
China chafes at lectures on ‘rules-based order’, as US breaks all the rules

Over the past few years, the Chinese military officers attending the annual Shangri-La Dialogue, Asia’s premier security forum, have always had a tough job on their hands. They have had to find ways to skillfully and firmly ward off volleys of attacks from the defence ministers of the United States, Japan, and their European allies who openly or implicitly accuse China of disregarding international law and norms, particularly since Beijing started to flex its military muscles over the disputed territories in the South and East China seas. “Rules-based order” has become one of the most cited buzzwords in speeches that mention China. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 4 2019 19:34 utc | 41

@Harry Law: Thanks for the detailed background infos!
Though i dont now if it matter at all.
The UK after Brexit will be even more exposed to US pressure. So i guess they will believe to have no choice but to crawl the Donald even more up in his ass.
We will see what stance the EU will take compared to UK, though i dont hold my breath.

Posted by: DontBelieveEitherPr. | Jul 4 2019 19:37 utc | 42

"Goodbye Dollar, It Was Nice Knowing You!"

Philip Giraldi discusses the likely impact on the dollar of an improved "special purpose vehicle" to facilitate European trading with Iran, here:

A complementary article by Tom Luongo outlines how the Chinese are also using their excess US currency to help Iran and other countries counter the effects of sanctions:

While obituaries may be premature at this stage, the patient does seem to be growing more feeble...

Posted by: farm ecologist | Jul 4 2019 19:38 utc | 43

@Harry 40

Gibraltar is saying the vessel was boarded at 2.5 miles, which would be well out of any shipping lanes and in Gibraltar waters. When there is strong westerly ships shelter sometimes in the lee of the rock, not sure if that was the case though as currently wind is just 20knt or so.

Posted by: gzon | Jul 4 2019 19:48 utc | 44

The seizure of the vessel prob. has more to do with the race for Tory-leadership between Jeremy Hunt and Boris Johnson. Nevertheless it is an outrage. Iran needs to order an extra fleet of drones for stationing somewhere near Gibraltar...

Posted by: bjd | Jul 4 2019 20:15 utc | 45

“In fact, we have reason to believe that the Grace 1 was carrying its shipment of crude oil to the Banyas [Banias] Refinery in Syria,” said Gibraltar’s Chief Minister, Fabian Picardo, in a statement issued in the early hours of Thursday. “That refinery is the property of an entity that is subject to European Union sanctions against Syria.”. .here

Details on EU Sanctions are mostly behind a paywall, and a search for Banias or Banyas came up zero here. -- It'll cost you money to find out whom they're screwing! -- The US enacted sanctions against Syria's Banias Refinery on May 8, 2014 here as a part of "a number of actions to increase pressure on the Syrian regime and its supporters." -- Why not kick 'em when they're down! It's a part of a world rules-based order.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 4 2019 20:27 utc | 46

Another criticism of the UK act of piracy:

Posted by: Krollchem | Jul 4 2019 20:32 utc | 47

Tried to post this yesterday; it got deleted, don’t know why, so trying one more time …

A CNN article dated June 25, headlined “What Shooting Down a $110M US Drone Tells Us About Iran”, while noting that the RQ-4A drone “normally [flies] at 65,000 feet to keep out of the way of surface-to-air missiles”, says the recent shootdown by Iran occurred at 22,000 feet, though CNN does not source that information or comment on the discrepancy of this particular aircraft operating above or near hostile territory at 1/3 of its normal working altitude.

Perhaps this unexplained fact has some significance.

Posted by: David G | Jul 4 2019 20:35 utc | 48

So while accusing Iran of threatening traffic in the Strait of Hormuz, the US via its UK whore stops an Iranian tanker in the Strait of Gibraltar... that is a head-slapping moment.

Posted by: fx | Jul 4 2019 20:49 utc | 49


it is in fact "Raffinerie BRC (Banias Refinery Company) de Banias en Syrie Capacité: 6 Mt/an.

Posted by: CarlD | Jul 4 2019 20:57 utc | 50

EU unilateral sanctions against Iran or Syria, just as US unilateral sanctions against both are against international law since they do not have all five veto wielding powers on board, but even if they had, a separate UNSC Resolution would be needed to mount a blockade, which is a real act of war and which the Iranians cannot let go unanswered, otherwise all Iranian oil shipments could be blockaded or subjected to acts of piracy on the high seas.

Posted by: Harry Law | Jul 4 2019 21:07 utc | 51

@paul 12

.”....the S300 and S400 that don’t/won’t work”.

I guess that is why many countries like India, China, Syria, Iran, Turkey, South Korea, Pakistan, Qatar, Egypt and Iraq are falling over each other to purchase them. Because they don't work. And that is why US and Israel trying so hard to stop their sales in the ME theatre. Because they don’t work.

Be nice to see some technical data to back up your statement.

Posted by: Uncle Jon | Jul 4 2019 21:17 utc | 53

@ CarlD 50
Thanks, you got me back on it (now with "Baniyas").
Okay, here it is.
Reuters, Jul 23, 2014
EU freezes assets of two firms accused of supplying oil to Syria
Refineries, government weapons-buying agencies also targeted
. . .State-owned Syrian refining companies put on the list were Baniyas Refinery Co and the Homs Refinery Co. The EU accuses them of providing financial support to the government. . .here.
These are the same two Syria refineries sanctioned by the US a couple of months earlier (@ 46 above).

And that's semi-confirmed here at the EU Sanctions site, with the details behind a paywall.

Imagine that, Syrian businesses, five years ago, providing financial support to the government. Not only that, they were were providing gasoline to Syrians so they could drive their cars! The horrors. Good thing the US/EU can stop such terrorism.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 4 2019 21:24 utc | 54

uncle jon, please don't contradict paul.

there is b, seven empty levels, paul, then the rest of us.

Posted by: albagen | Jul 4 2019 21:25 utc | 55

Okay, I've been surfing the news and see a lot of "July 4th" and "4th of July" but I hardly ever see the name of the holiday which is Independence Day.
No other holiday is commonly referred to by its date.
Why is independence a no-no? I wonder.
(But I think I know, being rather independent.)

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 4 2019 21:51 utc | 56

Background on why the UK committed an act of piracy in taking the oil tanker:

"Spain does not recognize the UK’s sovereignty over the entire Crown Colony Gibraltar (CCG) and especially British jurisdiction over part of the isthmus joining it to Spain with the airport constructed on it, and consequently does not accept that the CCG has a right to any territorial waters according to the wording of the legal title, the art. X of the Utrecht Treaty from 1713:
“The Catholic King (Philippe V) does hereby, for himself, his heirs and successors, yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire propriety of the town and castle of Gibraltar, together with the port, fortifications, and forts thereunto belonging; and he gives up the said propriety to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manner of right for ever, without any exception or impediment whatsoever”.

Posted by: Krollchem | Jul 4 2019 21:54 utc | 57

@albagen 56

Sorry. My bad.

Posted by: Uncle Jon | Jul 4 2019 22:02 utc | 58

No one needs to be a legal scholar to recognize what the Anglo-Zionist did in seizing the Iranian oil tanker, it simple gangsterism. The Anglo-Zionist gangster stole over 8 billions in assets from Venezuela earlier this year even before their clownish coup attempt. The Anglo-Zionist empire is just a gangster empire. The same international criminal cabal controls Trump, Netanyahu and Putin.

Posted by: O | Jul 4 2019 22:05 utc | 59


MH is certainly a breath of fresh air. Sometimes I wonder if he is not the unwitting Father of this neoliberal world order and thus allowed to
Speak out.

I took note of this comment

“Poverty is to them the solution, because it means low-priced labor, and that means higher profits for the companies bought out by U.S., British, and European investors”

Its actually only 1 solution. Since 1974 (NSSM200) population growth has been a national security priority. Poverty reduced life expectancy and fertility and helps control population growth. Moreover, poverty reduces living standards and resource consumption, so minimizes the impact of any population growth.

Indeed, MH could go one step further if he dared and link this to CAGW terrorism which will create more poverty once they commit to reducing energy consumption. This increased poverty will include the developed countries (eg US and EU)by making energy much more expensive and thus lowering living standards while giving capitalists more subsidies and profit opportunities by exploiting more captured markets.

The people will believe almost everything, especially if it gets taught in the schools. You can bet the content of MH books don't get taught in any economics or business classes. Its not only the media they control but also science and education. Those who have money create the reality of those who do not. Impossible for most to break out of the matrix, especially for those who were not born in a time the control was not as extensive as it is today. The reality of today is what the young are used to. They have nothing else in their direct experiences to compare it with. Perhaps many sense its not a good reality, but its harder to make sense of what exactly is wrong and so they are more susceptible to being led in the wrong direction and jumping at proposed solutions which makes things worse for them and better for the elites.

Posted by: Pft | Jul 4 2019 22:09 utc | 60

Could Iranian oil be shipped across the Caspian to Russia and then in Russian tankers to Syria?

Posted by: lysias | Jul 4 2019 22:16 utc | 61

>>>>: gzon | Jul 4 2019 19:48 utc | 44

Gibraltar is saying the vessel was boarded at 2.5 miles, which would be well out of any shipping lanes and in Gibraltar waters.

Wouldn't have touched it with a barge pole, mate. That far into Gilbraltarian waters and such a big juicy target, the Iranians are up to something but I can't guess what yet. But the British Conservative government is collectively so stupid and hubristic that it just couldn't stay away.

BTW, light crude is so fungible that if the Iranians had been serious about delivering the crude to Syria, they wouldn't have sent it to Syria in the first place - maybe this was intended to show that the Europeans have no intention of abiding by their responsibilities under the JCPOA and forcing them to admit it.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Jul 4 2019 22:17 utc | 62

And you don't need a PhD in economics to understand that the engine of capitalism is cheap labor. The cheapest labor possible is straight up slavery. Thus multinationals scour the planet searching for the cheapest labor possible. Once automation is fully implemented of course the great overlords will need to kill off the unnecessary excess humans best way to do this is through contrived wars.

Posted by: O | Jul 4 2019 22:18 utc | 63

The Spanish Foreign Minister said the Brits acted because the U.S. asked them to.

Posted by: lysias | Jul 4 2019 22:20 utc | 64

@bemildred #1
Thanks for the link.
What is really amusing is that the seizure is talked about as an EU action when it is clearly just a UK action via its territory in Gibraltar.
I wonder if Spain, Germany and France were in the loop.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 4 2019 22:21 utc | 65

Uncle Jon @ 53:

Paul @ 12 is one of those people who believe that the F-35 Joint Strike Fighters can actually perform as they are claimed to do.

Let me know if you need any technical data to back up that belief but I can't promise a great deal. :-)

Posted by: Jen | Jul 4 2019 22:22 utc | 66

The soldiers who fight in contrived wars can always point their weapons in the opposite direction if they realize that the purpose of the wars is to kill them off.

Posted by: lysias | Jul 4 2019 22:23 utc | 67

@Pft #60
You should read the full interview.
Among other things, Hudson notes that his writing of "Super Imperialism" and other books was to help the 99% understand what that 1% are doing, and why.
And that sadly, rather than educating the 99% - the 1% wannabes are adopting it as an instruction manual.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 4 2019 22:26 utc | 68


It would be logical that France, as an active Syria destabilizer and in need of regaining
its yesteryears hold on the country, be involved in the choking of fuel supplies to

Posted by: CarlD | Jul 4 2019 22:29 utc | 69

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 4 2019 22:21 utc | 65
I wonder if Spain, Germany and France were in the loop."
These punk ass vassal states don't matter to the Anglo-Zionist overlords. These are members of the "coalition of the willing" meaning they know what's up if they don't go along with whatever the Anglo-Zionist overlords say.

Posted by: O | Jul 4 2019 22:31 utc | 70

>>>>: lysias | Jul 4 2019 22:16 utc | 61

Could Iranian oil be shipped across the Caspian to Russia and then in Russian tankers to Syria?

Provided the Iranians had access to Russian-flagged 5,000 ton tankers which could pass through the Volga-Don Canal, the Iranians could ship the oil directly. According to Wikipedia the dimensions of the ships should be as follows:

Maximum allowed vessel size is 140 m (460 ft) long, 16.6 m (54 ft) wide and 3.5 m (11 ft) deep (the Volgo–Don Max Class).

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Jul 4 2019 22:38 utc | 71

"The soldiers who fight in contrived wars can always point their weapons in the opposite direction if they realize that the purpose of the wars is to kill them off."

Posted by: lysias | Jul 4 2019 22:23 utc | 67

Smedley Butler wrote "War is a Racket" back in the 1930's yet WW2 still had a lot of cannon fodder. Propaganda in particular nationalistic propaganda and jingoism is very powerful and effective on the youth.

Posted by: O | Jul 4 2019 22:39 utc | 72

This is interesting

“In March, President Hassan Rowhani paid an official visit to Iraq, during which he signed numerous trade, industrial and financial agreements, the most important being what was finally revealed through a railway project linking the Iranian city of Shalamche to Syrian Lattakia through Iraqi Basra.

The link will be through a railway line between the Iranian cities of Shalamche with a length of 32 km with Iraqi Basra and the line will continue after that towards Syria, where the port of Imam Khomeini on the Iranian side of the Gulf waters will link with the Syrian port of Latakia in the Mediterranean.”

Posted by: Pft | Jul 4 2019 22:40 utc | 73

Interesting that in today's geopolitics the democracies are the unruly, spoiled brats and the authoritarian "regimes" are the well behaved swots. What does this say about the ability of democracies to move competent people into positions of power?

For me, one of the most telling issues is the inability of some western governments to process their own garbage: basic services such as garbage are the raison d'etre of government and are totally within the control of government laws. But this is democracy's weakness, the people believe they are already in power (they have the vote) so they partially blame the incompetence of government on themselves or their fellow voters - you only get the government you deserve. In a democracy, those in power are not fearful of the public, they can fund anyone to get to the top, preventing any average Joe from achieving a position of power while retaining the confidence that the people will never overthrow the government.

Compare this to authoritarian regimes: Although from very different starting points, the standard of living in democracies is declining while the opposite is true in authoritarian regimes. The modern ethos in regimes such as the Asian countries and Russia is that hard work will improve our lot. An interesting turn around where the regimes have a positive outlook while the democracies decline.

Is the demise of the west also going to be the demise of democracy - a comfortable prison for the common man, a playground for the oligarch - a system that has never been toppled by a people's revolution. I suspect so, but we shall see.

Posted by: aspnaz | Jul 4 2019 22:43 utc | 74


I did read the interview. Before writing his books he was a paid consultant for some interesting members of the Deep State elite in the 60’s. Like I said, unwitting. Whatever his intent may have been surely he knows based on his book sale figures that 99% of the 99% do not read his books. Heck most don’ t read a single book each year.

Posted by: Pft | Jul 4 2019 22:47 utc | 75

Posted by: aspnaz | Jul 4 2019 22:43 utc | 74

You need to flip your ideas of what states you think are "democracies" and the ones you think as "authoritarian" then the world will make sense. These so called "democracies" of the west are so far from that a blind man can see it. I would even venture that democracy itself is an illusion perpetrated on the masses so that only the few understand the dynamics of power in particular achieving it and maintaining it.

Posted by: O | Jul 4 2019 22:53 utc | 76

Lysias @ 61:

Your idea has probably been mooted in the past but there are various considerable physical and geopolitical obstacles in the way.

Oil and gas would need to be piped from the Persian Gulf over the Zagros Mountain range in southwest Iran and other very hilly country in western Iran.

Tankers could take the oil through the Caspian Sea to Astrakhan and then up the Volga River to Volgograd, go through a canal and then down the Don River into the Sea of Azov.

The Sea of Azov is very shallow and would have to be dredged to accommodate large oil tankers. The tankers also have to go through the Kerch Strait which is narrow (it's 15 km at its widest point) and not deep (deepest point is 18 metres) so that would also have to be dredged. Plus the Russians have just built a new bridge there and dredging could weaken its supports. There have been enough problems recently with Ukraine attempting to provoke Russia by sending ships into the Sea of Azov without requesting proper authorisation, without adding more to them.

Suppose oil tankers carrying Iranian oil did manage to enter the Black Sea, they now have to go through the Bosporus and the Dardanelles and travel through the Aegean Sea towards Syria. At any point during this part of the trip, they can be seized by EU forces if the ships have to travel through Romanian, Bulgarian and Greek maritime territory.

The logistics involved in creating a route are considerable but I think investors would quail more at the potential for conflict.

Building a pipeline from the Persian Gulf through Iraq would cost less and avoid unnecessary encounters with hostile EU nations and their neo-Nazi crazy ally.

Posted by: Jen | Jul 4 2019 22:55 utc | 77

The UK has committed an out and out act of war. Will Putin call it that openly and forcefully, as only he can do? Will he call on the UK to back off, as international law and human decency requires?

No. He will not. He will say nothing. He might call on Iran to 'not show emotion'. Lavrov might say it is regrettable.

We will see in the next 24 hours what Putin is made of. This is a global turning point.

Posted by: paul | Jul 4 2019 23:02 utc | 78

@Pft #75
Hudson has always been 100% forthright on who he worked for and where he gets money from.
If anything, that builds the credibility of what he is saying.
As for climate change - Hudson has talked in the past about how junk economics discounts the impact of pollution. However, he isn't a fanatic and likely the CAGW fanatics wouldn't like it if he turned his attention to what CAGW economists say. Which is to say, the CAGW economists are even worse than mainstream economists, if such is possible.
Climate change is certainly real, but the actual impact vs. the cost to mitigate is far from clearly an "act now at all costs" issue, even assuming it is possible to stop - which the IPCC says it is not anymore already.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 4 2019 23:19 utc | 79

osted by: c1ue | Jul 4 2019 23:19 utc | 79

How come few people talk about the ongoing climate/geoengineering of the planet and that the technology has been around for almost 70 plus years?

Posted by: O | Jul 4 2019 23:25 utc | 80

@ Ghost Ship 62

I get that feeling also, that there's something more going - you don't sail a shipload of banned fuel, on route to a banned destination, through the waters of a country that has recently bombed the destination country and is known to have the intelligence network to track, and the international support needed to openly detain, the ship. The owners knew already that it was being tracked.

You know different people live in different worlds, so the ship owner or captain might have just though follow old route, or even this is all a stage up for certain political purposes. The Russian owners must know Gib. is active both militarily and in legal affairs concerning shipping... not long ago a Russian superyacht was embargoed if I remember. It could be to put EU position on JCPOA in the spotlight as you say, but sanctions on Syria aren't part and parcel of that - I suppose that EU allows a cargo of known Iran origin to be redirected for sale elsewhere would indicate if/if not it backed the wider US sanctions at policy level . At the same time I would no way want that tanker sat off shore for the next few months, not while it was known tensions would be increasing. I guess we'll find out more in time.

Posted by: gzon | Jul 4 2019 23:26 utc | 81

@ apnaz 74
re: "the democracies are the unruly, spoiled brats..."

But isn't it a fact that there really are no democracies?
No government of the people, by the people, for the people?
No "system of government by the whole population typically through elected representatives?"
No governments that don't feature corruption, pay-for-play, at every level?

I know it's a common practice to equate western governments with democracy, and government elsewhere as authoritarian regimes, as you do, but is that the real situation, or just western propaganda, let's call it western exceptionalism?
You allude to the truth here: "But this is democracy's weakness, the people believe they are already in power."
And of course they're not, at least in countries we're familiar with.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 4 2019 23:33 utc | 82

O @ 63

"And you don't need a PhD in economics to understand that the engine of capitalism is cheap labor."

As someone who was educated at a so-called "left wing" university I can assure you that from undergrad to the PhD level, you are unlikely to become aware of this insight. You also won't hear much about unearned income or economic rent. You will "learn" that whatever the incomes the owners of capital and land are getting is completely justified by marginal productivity theory - Panglossian in the extreme.

Posted by: spudski | Jul 4 2019 23:36 utc | 83

c1ue @65: Merkel and Macron I expect are happy with it, but not publically. Merkel is trying to balance and maintain independence, Macron has giant ego and wants to own Syria.

Spain I don't know, the PM said the US asked the UK to do it, I don't expect anybody else got asked because leaks. I would not expect Spain to want to be involved. If I was them I'd raise a stink about it.

Worries about consistency don't seem to occur to any of them, US, UK, and EUcrats.

It's like they are grasping at straws trying to maintain their bulying ability, there has to be someone we can dump on. Russia, failed. China failed. So back to the little guys, Iran & Syria.
But not too close. Cowards too. Cowards and thieves.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jul 4 2019 23:48 utc | 84

Posted by: spudski | Jul 4 2019 23:36 utc | 83

Personally I have come to believe that the field of "economics" is a religion and a pseudoscience at best. When the reading things by John Locke and Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith not only does religion come into their thinking but also faux justification for their racist classist attitudes. The so-called 'Enlightenment period' was so full of hypocrisy that the words of Samuel Johnson are most apropos when he spoke of the founding fathers of the USA

"Why do we hear the loudest yelps of liberty from the drivers of Negroes?"

Again these so-called Democracies of the west calling other nations authoritarian is laughable.

Posted by: O | Jul 4 2019 23:55 utc | 85

@77 Jen - You never cease to amaze me.

Posted by: roza shanina | Jul 4 2019 23:59 utc | 86

What the West has is not democracy. The ancient Greeks recognized that the democratic way to choose officials and representatives is the way the Athenians did it, by lot from the whole citizen body, whereas electing them is an aristocratic/oligarchic way.

Posted by: lysias | Jul 5 2019 0:19 utc | 87

Posted by: Jen | Jul 4 2019 22:55 utc | 77

What he said "Could Iranian oil be shipped across the Caspian to Russia and then in Russian tankers to Syria?" has nothing to do with your answer though.

Russia bought iranian oil in the past via the Caspian Sea as part of various oil for goods programs. He asks exactly for that - for Russia to buy iranian oil and to send it to Syria via its own tankers. Even better - Russia can supply Syria by itself. I don't see what's the problem with that, unless one buys Korybko's view that Russia uses various blackmailing tactics in order to get Iran out of Syria and tacitly allowing the oil embargo on Syria to go on and cause fuel shortages in Syria is one of the ways to do that.

Posted by: Passer by | Jul 5 2019 0:25 utc | 88

Interesting that in today's geopolitics the democracies are the unruly, spoiled brats and the authoritarian "regimes" are the well behaved swots.

Posted by: aspnaz | Jul 4 2019 22:43 utc | 74

If you look at history, the last 500 years, western countries have always been a bunch of pirates and highway robbers. Nothing has changed, the decline of the unipolar moment and western living standards will allow for this same greedy face to be seen again.

Posted by: Passer by | Jul 5 2019 0:35 utc | 89

The point of using Russian tankers is that nobody would dare attack them.

Posted by: lysias | Jul 5 2019 0:39 utc | 90

Passer By @ 88:

Whether the ships are Iranian or Russian-owned / operated, the logistics involved and the potential geopolitical conflicts will still apply, and I think shipping the oil will be too expensive.

If Lysias had suggested sending the oil via pipeline, then that would be more feasible, cheaper and less uncertain. The pipeline supply from Russia to Syria needs to cut across Turkey from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean to avoid going through the Bosporus, because that's a busy area and it's tectonically complex too with fault-lines, smack bang in the middle of Turkey's largest urban area (Istanbul).

Iran could sell its oil to Russia in similar programs as you suggest. Then Iranian oil becomes Russian oil and Russia is free to do what it wants with it. Russia is a sanctioned nation anyway and Turkey might be headed for the sanctions' naughty corner as well if it buys the S400 defence systems so the three nations may as well work together.

I do not buy Korybko's view that Russia is using blackmailing tactics to force Iran to leave Syria.

Posted by: Jen | Jul 5 2019 0:49 utc | 91

ditto jens last comment... thanks for your posts jen..

Posted by: james | Jul 5 2019 0:52 utc | 92

This is a deliberate provocation by the UK government at the behest of the US, previous provocations having failed. The US, who had been tracking the tanker, got its UK vassal to do its dirty work. The Iranians are now in a deep bind, respond to the provocation [which was an act of war] and possibly set off a catastrophic war which the US/UK would blame on Iran, or do nothing which will invite another provocation.

Posted by: Harry Law | Jul 5 2019 0:58 utc | 93

More expensive than what was attempted, supplying Syria with Iranian oil from a Panamanian-flagged tanker that rounded Africa and crossed the Med?

Posted by: lysias | Jul 5 2019 0:58 utc | 94

Are those Iran's only two choices? Is there no international court in which Iran can sue for compensation?

Posted by: lysias | Jul 5 2019 1:02 utc | 95

Posted by: Jen | Jul 5 2019 0:49 utc | 91

1. For russian tankers traveling to Syria, potential geopolitical conflicts do not apply.

2. Not sure how it is that expensive either, Russia bought iranian oil via the Caspian in the past in various barter deals.

3. Oil does flow through the Bosphorus, for example Russia exports oil to India via that route. In other words exporting russian oil towards Syria is not a problem at all. Therefore i think the problem could be political.

Posted by: Passer by | Jul 5 2019 1:07 utc | 96

This just published today, relating to Jun 22 and could not find other reference:

The Stark I sailed into position to offload its crude through the pipelines to the Baniyas refinery by June 27, the website said.

A pipeline below the tanker appeared to be still damaged at the time.

The pro-Syrian government Al Watan newspaper reported that a tanker that arrived at Baniyas was unable to discharge its cargo because of the pipeline damage, leading the Baniyas refinery to cease operations on June 25 as repairs were under way.

Figure that Syria used to be an oil exporter.

Posted by: gzon | Jul 5 2019 1:10 utc | 97

I used to spend a lot of time in Istanbul in the 1980s. At last at that time, tankers were going through the Bosphorus all the time.

Posted by: lysias | Jul 5 2019 1:12 utc | 98

@Pft #60 <=You should read the full interview.
Among other things, Hudson notes that his writing of "Super Imperialism" and other books was to help the 99% understand what that 1% are doing, and why. And that sadly, rather than educating the 99% - the 1% wannabes are adopting it as an instruction manual. by: c1ue | Jul 4 2019 22:26 utc | 68

There is though something much bigger than a world war.. the war may or may not happen.. that bigger is happening right now as we speak. Its the global implementation of high density, pulsed frequency electromagnet systems (cell towers in every home) ; of greater concern than the known 8.4-5 X neuro impediments in moms, the genetic losses to children when mothers of unborn are exposed before giving birth and children up to 17 years of age.. Cancers, Alzheimer and Autism and not very pleasant but ignoring all of that, what we are talking about is putting 10s of millions of 5g antennas
without a single biological test for health effects....
wifi is 2.4 GHz.. some range as a microwave oven its radar.. with many known health hazards
5g is 60 GHz, the frequency of molecular oxygen O:O with no studies on health hazards..

but it not just 5g its also Chem Trails, where the micro dust absorbs into your lungs and becomes a mechanical analog to biological components its about personally positive ID tracing you anywhere, all of the time 24/7.. personally identified..tracked and watched like a rat in a cage.. not one person, not one nation but the whole world.
You should consult with people like Barrie Trower a Royal Navy Microwave Weapons Expert.., and Dr. Paul Martin Prof. emeritus of Biochemistry and Medical Sciences at the U. of Washington.

Take a look at sec. 704 of the 1996 Telecommunications act, it represents the work of the FCC and their inbed privately owned partner corporations seeking monopoly power over communications. Sec. 704 effectively silences all potential threats to 5g infrastructure rollout, no cities, no counties, no states can interfere. . a similar situation exist in Canada. These acts and the activities behind them are generally termed the EMF Blackout.

EMF not only negatively impacts just about biological cell and signals between cell and their parts, that occur inside of the cells (control, stabilize and support your life in some way) but EMF also impacts the microbiota [bacteria, mold, fungi, etc) that exist in the brain and other organs in the body: such biotia influence the function of and are essential to the proper survival of all our organ systems.

One researcher put it "2000 papers in 600 pages of research, make it clear that if I were a rat, a mouse, a cell, or a molecule, I should definitely not allow myself to be exposed to this pulsing 5g radiation ..

5g is not about increasing download speeds or making movies faster, its about use the power of government to enable for the economic zionist a monopoly on tracking every single thing you do.. 24/7 in real time.

Another researcher says that after 1000's of studies since 1932, before 5g, humanity in the world has arrived at a global heath catastrophe orders of magnitude higher than tobacco and cigarettes.
Many say this one thing, getting 5g installed is why DJT was made president?

you might look at for more..

Posted by: snake | Jul 5 2019 1:16 utc | 99

I do not buy Korybko's view that Russia is using blackmailing tactics to force Iran to leave Syria.

Posted by: Jen | Jul 5 2019 0:49 utc | 91

You don't have to 'buy' that view it is a self evident fact.

Iran appeared to take issue with the fact that Russia -- which isn't an OPEC member -- announced to the world over the weekend what OPEC was about to do. Russian President Vladimir Putin, speaking at the G20 meeting in Japan after meeting with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, didn't even wait for OPEC's members to formally meet in Vienna.

Iran warns Opec ‘might die’ due to Russia-Saudi domination
Saudi-Russian Oil Fling Becomes a Marriage to Last an ‘Eternity’

Revealed: Why Russia are pushing Iran OUT of the Syrian Civil War

Posted by: O | Jul 5 2019 1:17 utc | 100

next page »

The comments to this entry are closed.