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July 1, 2019
No, Iran Does Not Break The Nuclear Deal (Updated)

Updated below

Here is some fakenews from the Guardian which falsely claims that Iran breaks the nuclear deal.

Iran today announced that its stockpile of low enriched uranium now exceeds the 300 kilogram of enriched uranium hexafluoride (UF6) level set out as a limit in the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (pdf).

But Iran does that within the frame of the JCPOA. It is not breaching it. Article 26 of the joint plan states that the U.S. will refrain from reimposing sanctions and that Iran will react in case that happens:

The United States will make best efforts in good faith to sustain this JCPOA and to prevent interference with the realisation of the full benefit by Iran of the sanctions lifting specified in Annex II. The U.S. Administration, acting consistent with the respective roles of the President and the Congress, will refrain from re-introducing or re-imposing the sanctions specified in Annex II that it has ceased applying under this JCPOA, without prejudice to the dispute resolution process provided for under this JCPOA. The U.S. Administration, acting consistent with the respective roles of the President and the Congress, will refrain from imposing new nuclear-related sanctions. Iran has stated that it will treat such a re-introduction or re-imposition of the sanctions specified in Annex II, or such an imposition of new nuclear-related sanctions, as grounds to cease performing its commitments under this JCPOA in whole or in part.

On May 8 2018 the United States broke the JCPOA when it reimposed sanctions on Iran. Iran can not "break" a deal that the U.S. already broke.

Additionally on May 3 2019 the State Department removed sanction waivers that allowed Iran to export low enriched uranium in exchange for natural uranium:

In addition, any involvement in transferring enriched uranium out of Iran in exchange for natural uranium will now be exposed to sanctions. The United States has been clear that Iran must stop all proliferation-sensitive activities, including uranium enrichment, and we will not accept actions that support the continuation of such enrichment.

We will also no longer permit the storage for Iran of heavy water it has produced in excess of current limits; any such heavy water must not be made available to Iran in any fashion.

This step by the Trump administration was obviously designed to bring Iran into a situation where it would have to either stop enrichment, or accumulate a stockpile larger than the 300 kilogram foreseen in the JCPOA.

Iran can no longer export low enriched Uranium. Iran does not want to give up its "inalienable right" to enrich uranium guaranteed under the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). Iran thus began to accumulate enriched uranium under the above clause of the JCPOA.

On June 17 Iran announced that it would exceed the stockpile limit by June 27. It took a few days longer but it now happened.

The JCPOA clearly states that Iran would take this step if and when the U.S. breaches the agreement by imposing new sanctions. That Iran is now exceeding one of the limits JCPOA sets out is not in breach of the agreement but in adherence to its letters.

A 'diplomatic editor' who does not understand that should seek a different profession.

Update 3:00PM EDT

Iran's Foreign Minister Javad Zarif just pointed out that the primary Iran's legal reason for its move is the unwillingness of the European 3 (UK, France and Germany) to stick to their commitment under the nuclear deal.

Javad Zarif @JZarif – 17:43 utc – 1 Jul 2019

We have NOT violated the #JCPOA. Para 36 of the accord illustrates why: We triggered & exhausted para 36 after US withdrawal. We gave E3+2 a few weeks while reserving our right. We finally took action after 60 weeks. As soon as E3 abide by their obligations, we'll reverse.

When the U.S. left the agreement Iran used the Dispute Resolution Mechanism in paragraph 36 of the JCPOA. That paragraph calls for a joint commission to decide on the issue. The commission met in Brussels in July 2018 and promised to further support the deal.

The 6 July 2018 Statement from the Joint Commission of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action in which the EU-3 committed themselves to uphold their side of the deal despite the U.S. breach said:

6.​The participants recognised that, in return for the implementation by Iran of its nuclear-related commitments, the lifting of sanctions, including the economic dividends arising from it, constitutes an essential part of the JCPOA.

8.​The participants affirmed their commitment regarding the following objectives in good faith and in a constructive atmosphere:

– the maintenance and promotion of wider economic and sectoral relations with Iran;
– the preservation and maintenance of effective financial channels with Iran;
– the continuation of Iran’s export of oil and gas condensate, petroleum products and petrochemicals;

The EU-3 did not fulfill those commitments.

The Dispute Resolution Mechanism in paragraph 36 of the JCPOA states:

If the issue still has not been resolved [by the joint commission] to the satisfaction of the complaining participant, and if the complaining participant deems the issue to constitute significant non-performance, then that participant could treat the unresolved issue as grounds to cease performing its commitments under this JCPOA in whole or in part and/or notify the UN Security Council that it believes the issue constitutes significant non-performance.

This legal argument is even stronger than the argument under paragraph 26 discussed above.

Comments

Like psychohistorian at 99 I would also welcome hearing if arata has some insight to share.
The Iranian islamic finance is not as strict as Saudi as far as I am aware, but it works by similar principles. The central bank reserves are not up to date online, or available at all openly maybe. Iran has no aversion to using gold as currency, is starting a crypto gold currency to help circumvent sanctions as well, but paper currency is left to float (more or less). If I remember Iran already turned away somewhere as far as pricing oil in dollars, but have not heard load criticism of dollar hegemony – maybe because most countries realise closing completely to dollar trade is not an easy option ?

Posted by: gzon | Jul 2 2019 4:39 utc | 101

@77
There has been a swing to the use of the language of diplomacy very recently, even if misplaced (diplomacy + threats).
This has been increasingly obvious in Mr. Trumps statements and comments, esp. in recent days.
Don’t forget, the ‘system’ used by this businessman is threats and intimidation, followed by negotiation to an agreed position.
Russia is back in the European Council, I can smell some kind of agreement on USA and Russia on killing Al Quaeda terrorists in Idlib, Pres. Trumps clearly co-ordinated and ‘paced’ rapprochement with North Korea, the move to make South Korea pay for USA troops (= phased pullout in longer term), pulling strategic nuclear missile treaty apart to create impetus to make it multipartner – lots of signals and actions.
And Mr. Trump has his own steady pace of rapprochment with his so-called adversaries as he moves into election mode and beyond (he will be re-elected).

Posted by: powerandpeople | Jul 2 2019 4:55 utc | 102

Grieved @96–
Eloquent summation! Thanks! At some point a choking level of lies must be reached and the gag will be heard worldwide. Maybe it will cause the juggler to faint and all those spinning plates will finally crash to the ground!

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2019 5:06 utc | 103

@99 psychohistorian
“I would ask commenter Arata why they have not mentioned finance/usury/Western banking as one of the core Iran issues? What is “correct” perspective?”
That is their main battle field. All the time, for 40 years, they have been talking about it. But they do not know how to fight. They do not have a theory, they do not have strategy.
You can see what happened to them with currency attack, last year. You can see everyday trials and jails, even execution by hanging. Former vice president of Central Bank is in jail, some of his accomplices hanged. Former president of central back is under investigation. Maybe all these news are not attractive for western news media. Why do not scream: human rights?
That is their weakest point. They do not understand how to fight in this field. They do not have theory, they do not have experience. They do not have some one like Deng Xiaoping who said
“ It is exactly what the conventional professional “economists” – all of them, including the Chinese “experts” trained in the USA and brainwashed “
President Rouhani was too naive by putting all eggs on a 100 Boeing airplane project.
JCPOA means 100 plane load eggs.
Western countries had a unique opportunity. That motivated Trump to move to smash eggs.

Posted by: arata | Jul 2 2019 5:19 utc | 104

Correction:
I said (at 103)Pres. Trump said he only decided to run for Office 2 months before he put his hat in the ring.
This is incorrect. He actually said 2 days, not 2 months:
“THE PRESIDENT: You never know who’s going to be tough. You never know. One that you think is going to be tough turns out to be not much. And sometimes you think one — and I’ve seen it. Because, look, I had 17 — we had, actually, a total of 18. A lot of people think 17. Governor of Virginia — remember? Add the Governor of Virginia. Wasn’t there long — previous governor.
But of the 18, you know, many were — all their lives, they wanted to be politicians. I never thought about being a politician until about two days before I decided to run. A little before that, but not too much before.”
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-press-conference-osaka-japan/

Posted by: powerandpeople | Jul 2 2019 5:39 utc | 105

The other interesting comment Pres Trump made at the Osaka Press Conference was:
“I think — you know, I said a long time ago that maybe I’ll be a sleeper on foreign policy.”
An admission he doesn’t have the background.
But, in a shift to diplomacy he makes a feature (in his ‘over the top way’) of being willing to talk to anybody – MBS, Chairman Kim, etc.
He was defending talking to ‘unsavory people’ so to speak.
Russia talks to any Government, no matter their competence, human rights record. They make clear that when they are doing so, they are talking to the Government, and are not ‘backing’ a given leader.
Politicians come and go. They recognize that. What matters is their policy positions on various matters that impinge on global stability, and/or on their ‘interests’.
Seems to me, right now, Pres. Trump is swinging the USA foreign policy in this direction.

Posted by: powerandpeople | Jul 2 2019 5:48 utc | 106

@ arata with the response about Iran and finance….thanks
It may be Iran’s weakest point but they are no longer alone in the fight. While their solution may look more like Russia than China, there are examples out there to learn from and copy if they can merge with their religion ok.
You wrote that President Rouhani was too naive and I think that it was/is the bad actions of the West that are more to blame…….Trump is making it quite clear that empire is never to be trusted again about anything. President Rouhani was trying to bring social progress to his people and should not be faulted for trying, IMO

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 2 2019 5:51 utc | 107

@109 psychohistorian
When some one is in battle filed, there is no time for any complain or blame, whoever complains doomed for double death.
Rouhani trusted west a little, that was more than enough to expose his country for catastrophic economic and financial collapse.
Nobody should expect from western empires honesty, humanity, morals, etc.
Rouhani, after his grave mistakes, understands that he is in a battle filed, finally. He shouted at his vice president, in cabinet meeting, last week: “Jahaangiri you and your reformist friends are trying to pull down my government”
Iran has no infrastructure, expertise, an independent theoretical knowledge to imitate China, even Russia, or even Cuba. Their theoretical knowledge is very poor.

Posted by: Arata | Jul 2 2019 6:46 utc | 108

OT but link to the UN report calling for investigation into the role of MbS in Kashshoggi killing and blaming squarely the KSA state for it.
Link in the article below
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/khashoggi-executive-summary-callamard-report-190619105102019.html
Instead of acting, the international community welcomed MbS in Osaka and got him at the centre of the picture.
https://images.app.goo.gl/xXqZyiDtAsSbdCjWA

Posted by: Mina | Jul 2 2019 7:07 utc | 109

Thanks james #91, my view is that this Koke/Soros no more war frame could set a comfort ground for Trump reelection. It goes like this:
Trump huffs and puffs and finally sends Bolt-on, Pompeo and whoever else is necessary to the play pen for time out then declares he is ok with Iran now after someone buys the surplus uranium or he growls at them real loud. But just to make sure they have learned their lesson he maintains the sanctions.
The demoncrats dump Sanders and Gabbard in the bin and put Biden or Harris or even Warren up as their loser candidate.
Trump says war is bad and USA needs the wealth at home to build bridges roads health whatever (like Warren is doing stealing everyone elses policies right now). Trump shows he is strong and clever as he has suckered the North Koreans to restraining their nasty ambitions, he has cowed the Iranians into submission and he has reversed all those nasty Obama policies that weakened the USA PLUS he has those pesky Venezuelans up against the wall.
Trump wins 2020, game continues undisturbed.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jul 2 2019 7:44 utc | 110

The JCPOA requires a supplier for a small amount of 20% enriched uranium for their research reactor. Taking this away forces Iran to enrich up to this level.
I point this out because the Neocons on FOX TV were going wild claiming that 20% enrichment was the same as ‘weapons grade because going from 20% to 90% is trivial’.

http://iranprimer.usip.org/resource/2015-final-nuclear-deal
“60. Iran will seek to enter into a commercial contract with entities outside Iran for the purchase of fuel for the TRR and enriched uranium targets. The E3/EU+3 will facilitate, as needed, the conclusion and implementation of this contract. In the case of lack of conclusion of a contract with a fuel supplier, E3/EU+3 will supply a quantity of 19.75% enriched uranium oxide (U3O8) and deliver to Iran, exclusively for the purpose of fabrication in Iran of fuel for the TRR and enriched uranium targets for the lifetime of the reactor. This 19.75% enriched uranium oxide (U3O8) will be supplied in increments no greater than approximately 5 kg and each new increment will be provided only when the previous increment of this material has been verified by the IAEA to have been mixed with aluminum to make fuel for the TRR or fabricated into enriched uranium targets. Iran will notify the E3/EU+3 within 2 year before the contingency of TRR fuel will be exhausted in order to have the uranium oxide available 6 months before the end of the 2 year period.”

Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jul 2 2019 10:30 utc | 111

> This is incorrect. He actually said 2 days, not 2 months
> Posted by: powerandpeople | Jul 2 2019 6:39 utc | 105
Thanks for highlighting it. This resonates with one conspirologic train of thought which, in particular, assumes that Trump was NOT intending to be elected but was forced to do by Soros/Clinton/1%/u-name-it
As a useful “boy for beating”.
But they underestimated both Clinton’s “hate index” and the system overall “hate index”. IOW the potential for American “protest voting”. The sentiments “anyone but Clinton” and “anyone alien to blast this f-ng circus to the ground”. Which, together, proved yet larger than Trump’s natural “hate index”

Posted by: Arioch | Jul 2 2019 10:35 utc | 112

High probability of a false flag in the next several days?
July 4th is America’s National Day
Patriotic feelings are elevated at this time of year. Any attack on US forces – especially if it produces casualties will be felt most keenly during this week.
USA has positioned itself for a false flag
Trump’s visit to North Korea is a high profile empty gesture. As is his temporary easing of Chinese Trade frictions. These moves are meant to highlight Trump’s peaceful intentions.
The announcement of the Soros-Koch funded think-tank for peace is just another way to underscore Trump’s offer of negotiation with Iran. It’s also meant to suggest that USA elite wants to provide “space” to Trump to follow his *cough* ‘best instincts’ and throw off his war-mongering advisors. Although that’s never going to happen, I expect we will see rumors that he might do so just before the ff.
Russia-US-Israeli failed meeting
IMO this was a last-ditch attempt to completely isolate Iran – and it failed to do so. If Russia had been convinced to abandon Iran, then the “maximum pressure” campaign might’ve been given more time to work. But there’s no reason to delay military action if Iran is too buoyant to be dragged under the water.
Any military action has to be preceded by a ff to convince the Western public to support the war. The public has already been prepared to see Iran as a bad actor so they will readily accept a ff. We may have already seen the first attempt at a ff: oil tanker attacks followed by the Poseiden/Global Hawk incident.
Israel’s attack on Syria
Is said to have occurred a day after S-300 became operational. But the severity of the strike (with civilian casualties) is a provocation that sets up a the rationale of a retribution attack (the ‘false flag’) on what some believe is Israel’s proxy: USA.
Note: We saw possible ff coordination between USA and Israel last December when Israel attacked Damascus airport in an apparent attempt to trick SAA into downing a civilian airliner.
Idlib
Although attributed to Iran, a false flag attack in Syria would also be blamed on the Syrian government and would thus give USA ample reason to support Turkey’s occupation of Idlib. The Idlib occupation one of the cornerstones of the latest strategy to overthrow Assad.
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As always, appreciate any thoughts on these musings.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 2 2019 11:06 utc | 113

Politico:The Fox News general who ‘spooked’ Trump out of attacking Iran

Keane’s reference to the United States’ accidental downing of an Iranian commercial airliner in 1988 made a profound impact on the president, who was “spooked” when he learned of the incident, according to two sources briefed on his reaction. The president made repeated comments about the tragedy on the evening of the 20th, leading aides to believe that Keane’s brief history lesson exacerbated Trump’s pre-existing doubts about carrying out the strike.

Could this possibly be true? Trump learned of Iran Air Flight 655 on June 20th, 2019?
How many meetings took place prior to June 20th, 2019 regarding Iran/oil tankers/USN ships? Who was in attendance of these meetings and are they still employed by the USG in advisory positions?
If true, we are living in crazier times than I imagined.

Posted by: Zack | Jul 2 2019 11:47 utc | 114

Karlofi
Thank you for the glimpse into your life and plans. You sir are a pillar of this blog ! In this world of vampires and zombies (metaphorical) you are a true human being. Take strength from the fact that dispite what the media feed us. We will win. We are a ‘groundswell ‘ the right wing extremists will lose.
Here in Britain the best the right can achieve is a Britain devided down the middle or shattered, in which case we can do less harm to the rest of the world, for me that will still be a success. I say this to you as it may be so for USA ! But keep it a secret between you and me. Good luck your skills will be a massive asset.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 2 2019 12:16 utc | 115

@ indianpunchline.com this is said of the recent attack on Syria>
“The Israelis are showing that they have neutralised the Russian S-300 missile system which is supposedly guarding Syrian air space. This is Israel’s angry riposte to Russia’s refusal to break up with Iran in Syria.”
Article heading> “Israeli attack on Syria is a message for Russia”
Valid reasoning? Visit Bayes’ Theorem and jigger the values

Posted by: Walter | Jul 2 2019 12:27 utc | 116

Psychohistorian @ 107:
My understanding of Iranian President Hassan Rouhani’s political and economic orientation is that it was originally neoliberal, at least in his first term (2013 – 2017). It was his government’s cuts to fuel subsidies that led to the original protests against his government in Mashhad and other parts of Iran in late 2017 / early 2018, those protests later being hijacked by others who turned them into a Color Revolution which the Iranian authorities managed to quell but not before a number of people were killed and much property damage was done.
Rouhani may have pulled back on his policies but he is still apparently surrounded by advisors of a neoliberal bent.
Probably best to put your trust in the IRGC networks’ involvement in the Iranian economy through their ownership of and investment in firms and industries, and in how they distribute “profits” (not taxed) to the poor through bonyads (trusts) in the form of subsidised education and healthcare.

Posted by: Jen | Jul 2 2019 12:47 utc | 117

Jackrabbit @ 113
I think your right on The likelyhood of a false flag ! I have been thinking the same, so it’s interesting to read your view.
I would be interested to know have you heared the rumour that ‘the US have obtained s-300’s’
If this is true they could use them for a false flag attack ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 2 2019 12:48 utc | 118

Jackrabbit I am worried about it. I think the key intent on behalf of the US would be for them to provide themselves with a false alibi for “responding” with nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 2 2019 13:12 utc | 119

I hope anyone reading MoA who thinks trump has any intelligence above the level of “crazed sex orangutan” is aware of his recent statements about busing, and “western liberalism”
He made it clear he thinks the former refers simply to the physical act of transporting children to school with no political element; and the latter refers to Democrats from California.
He is really making America great!

Posted by: BongBong | Jul 2 2019 13:39 utc | 120

speaking of nuclear weapons
from DefenseOne–
With Treaty Set to Expire, NATO Scrambles to Counter Russian Missile Threat

In Europe, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, or INF Treaty expires on Aug 2. In February, the U.S.“suspended” its compliance with INF immediately and Trump gave Moscow six months to get back in line. This was one week after Russia first publicly displayed its nuclear-capable SSC-8 ground-based cruise missile. NATO officials, expecting that Russia is now deploying this missile system, are still trying to save the treaty.
“Our main focus now is to try and bring Russia back into compliance,” said NATO Secretary Jens Stoltenberg, said in an on-stage interview with this reporter at the Brussels Forum, an annual policy conference convened by the German Marshall Fund of the U.S.(Defense One is a media partner of the event.)
Stoltenberg, a former prime minister of Norway, recalled growing up in a Europe threatened by mid-range cruise and Pershing missiles. “I actually demonstrated against all of them,” he said. “That’s why it was such a great achievement when we got the INF Treaty. Because the INF Treaty didn’t only reduce the number of missiles, it actually banned all of them. So for decades there has been zero land-based, intermediate-range weapons systems in Europe.”. . .here

The INF Treaty eliminated all nuclear and conventional missiles, as well as their launchers, with ranges of 500–1,000 kilometers (short-range) and 1,000–5,500 km (intermediate-range).

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2019 13:55 utc | 121

The USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier has yet to enter the Persian Gulf, where US carriers have sailed for decades, because it would be endangered by Iran weapons, especially guided missiles. So now the Lincoln is exposed to Iran’s submarine-launched torpedoes in the North Arabian Sea.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2019 14:18 utc | 122

Arioch @112 sez: “This resonates with one conspirologic train of thought which, in particular, assumes that Trump was NOT intending to be elected but was forced to do by Soros/Clinton/1%/u-name-it
As a useful “boy for beating”.”

There is a great deal in the behavior of the Establishment/Deep State/corporate elites that supports this basic scenario, though I would argue that Trump wasn’t “forced” into playing along but rather was invited, perhaps by the Clintons themselves, to knowingly play the electoral fallguy… the heel or rudo in the election, as it were. Trump was aware of the role he was playing and assumed, just like the establishment did, that the election was properly managed to assure his own defeat. This is why he had made no transition preparations prior to the November 9 of 2016… no preparations to actually be President whatsoever were made as he expected such preparations to be a waste of time and money. “President Trump” wasn’t part of the script.
Trump was included in the election to symbolically deal the “deplorables” and other opponents of neoliberalism a crushing defeat. This was intended to demoralize and silence portions of the population that opposed foreign interventions, identity politics societal atomization, and political correctness self-censorship, while giving the appearance that this was a victory for the “left”. Clinton’s win was to be a resounding liberal victory that mass media across the western world could use to beat down such so-called “conservative” uprisings as Brexit, the Yellow Vests, etc. It was also to be used to sell the idea that Clinton had a mandate to push full speed ahead with the much-delayed PNAC “seven countries in five years” warfare plan.
If Trump was part of the plan, then why the outrage from the establishment when he won?
Because he was supposed to lose!
All of the establishment’s plans were predicated on Trump losing. Consider the reaction by gangsters who rig a prize fight if the fighter who was paid off to lose somehow remains standing at the end of the fight. It doesn’t matter to the gangsters who rigged the fight if the one who was supposed to win knocked herself out through stupidity and incompetence and it was no fault of the one who was paid off to lose. The gangsters will still be enraged at the guy who accidentally won for not losing. The gangsters will also be convinced that they were double-crossed… maybe at the direction of a rival gang (the Russians!).
There is quite a bit in the behavior of the establishment that indicates that Trump’s victory wasn’t part of their plans, while Trump running was definitely part of those plans.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 2 2019 14:27 utc | 123

America broke JCPOA, but “Iran must be forced into compliance”, into unilateral lone.
America broke INF-T, but “Russia must be forced into compliance”, into unilateral one.
America broke negotiated roadmaps with Nothern Korea, twice, but “Kim must be forced into compliance”, into unilateral one.
Lastly when I think about America I wont to vomit.

Posted by: Arioch | Jul 2 2019 14:28 utc | 124

Tulsi Gabbard: “Let’s deal with the situation where we are, where this president and his chickenhawk cabinet have led us to the brink of war with Iran. I served in the war in Iraq at the height of the war in 2005, a war that took over 4,000 of my brothers and sisters in uniforms’ lives. The American people need to understand that this war with Iran would be far more devastating, far more costly than anything that we ever saw in Iraq. It would take many more lives. It would exacerbate the refugee crisis. And it wouldn’t be just contained within Iran. This would turn into a regional war. This is why it’s so important that every one of us, every single American, stand up and say no war with Iran.”

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2019 14:32 utc | 125

> If Trump was part of the plan, then why the outrage from the establishment when he won?
> Because he was supposed to lose!
that is same regardless if Trump was co-conspirator or a slave from the get-go.
if slave rebels against master, if subhuman rebels against master race – it is met with outrage, isn’t it?
> This is why he had made no transition preparations prior to the November 9 of 2016
and what changed for the Trump then?
he could for example fall, break a leg, and gracefully quit the race.
> Consider the reaction by gangsters who rig a prize fight if the fighter who was paid off to lose somehow remains standing at the end of the fight.
Exactly same if the fighter was not “paid to” but was “threatened to” and they thought he was in the pocket, docile and subservient.
Afterall why pay for what you can take without paying?
Those speculations tell us nothing new about 1%, but it might hint something about trump himself. His desire at a revenge, even if a pointless kiddish “bull in porcelain store” one.

Posted by: Arioch | Jul 2 2019 14:35 utc | 126

@110 uncle tungsten… that sounds reasonable enough… i don’t think it is the plan myself.. i liked the theory that soros was pivoting to china with china becoming a more dominant player… the whole set up makes no sense though, so it is quite open to speculation…
@113 jr… i saw they took out a few friendly headchoppers in idlib and discovered some prep white helmet type videos in the works on their cell phones.. other then that, i don’t think the timing is right for a false flag.. i could be wrong, as it is the ”go to” technique of the evil empire at present, so anything is possible at any time.

Posted by: james | Jul 2 2019 15:09 utc | 127

Arioch @122
Don Bacon @123
Well done on those comment’s! You give me the will to live! Thanks guys (sincerely)

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 2 2019 15:17 utc | 128

Arioch @124 said “[Trump] could for example fall, break a leg, and gracefully quit the race.”
After the election? Not possible without destroying the credibility of the US electoral system, which is something Trump had no interest in. Indeed, that would be as abhorrent a result for Trump as it would be for the rest of the establishment. Trump is an oligarch, after all, and a liberal one at that. Abandoning the Democracy© Show and resorting to a police state to maintain the oligarchy is far from what he wants to see happen.
No, despite the plot of the show being totally upset by audience interference (American voters), the show must go on. Trump had to stay in character and improvise his lines until a new script could be sorted out.
“if slave rebels against master, if subhuman rebels against master race – it is met with outrage, isn’t it?”
Except that Trump didn’t rebel. He played his role admirably. Furthermore, Trump isn’t a slave of the ruling class. He is a member of that ruling class.
You are correct that Trump probably wasn’t actually paid, as in cash or anything like that, but he was also clearly enjoying himself on the campaign trail. He was obviously not campaigning under duress, and his enjoyment of the attention the campaign afforded him was probably payment enough. He was pretending to be a candidate as a favor to his fellow oligarchs and to have fun. Why would anyone need to threaten Trump to get him to do that?
“Those speculations tell us nothing new about 1%”
But they do tell us something new. They tell us that the elites / establishment / ruling class are making enormous mistakes due to misunderstanding of current conditions in the world. The ruling class no longer makes their decisions grounded in reality, otherwise they would not have misjudged the mood of the American people so badly in 2016. This is why they continue to direct their mass media to amplify lies even when huge portions of the population can see through those lies.
When trying to predict what the leadership of the western empire will do next, we must keep in mind that they are not playing with a full deck.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 2 2019 15:43 utc | 129

Very bad move by Iran, especially since Trump’s new anti-iran campaing will now pick up, regardless of Iran is right to do it (enrich this much uranium).
Adding the US/Israel/Russia meeting lately, Iran will get no help diplomatically and definately not arms from Russia anymore.
War just came one step closer.

Posted by: Zanon | Jul 2 2019 15:50 utc | 130

@Jen 116
The reforms were under a circumstance of being reliant on fuel import and smuggled exports and wastage , so to some degree there was a necessity to carry out reforms, the fact that it was not well managed sort of crosses with that the result was of destabilising the country, i.e. I think pinning it on neo-liberal is not nescessarily correct, or at least those forces at work were from outside of Iran. If you look at the history of sanctions (excuse the source if it bothers)
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/international-sanctions-iran
it is very clear that Iran has been pushed and pulled around for a long time, if trade is allowed, disallowed, allowed again, disallowed, this obviously messes up any kind of planning and hammers the economy. So really we look to the Lebanese war, the designation of Iran as terrorist and subsequent sanctions, the geopolitical arena in Lebanon, Israel or Palestine, and then the wider region, to get a proper or better understanding of where people stand and why. Iran is still there, it has managed to adapt, but the current confrontation is a large escalation, maybe existential, either by economic upheaval or war. Here it is a very serious purposeful engagement that all sides understand, or will have understood by others, as real, especially in terms of lack of (or removal of) peaceful option.
@arata thanks as well for your commentary, I appreciated reading it. Does not seem Iran has been helped much from outside in organising its economy either though, obviously the opposite.

Posted by: gzon | Jul 2 2019 16:02 utc | 131

@ Zanon 127
Iran will get no help diplomatically
Wrong. Iran has gotten major support from Russia — “Iran has always been and remains our ally and partner, with which we are consistently developing relations both on bilateral basis and within multilateral formats” . .here and “China turns to Iran for LPG, ignoring sanctions”. . .here, and there will be more as time goes on (which it always does).

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2019 16:23 utc | 132

@ O 128
Why 3-300 not used in Syria
(1)We don’t know if S-300 was used or not, but it may not have been used against the aircraft because reportedly the Israeli jets were in Lebanon airspace when they fired their missiles.
(2)It’s not far from Damascus to airspace above the Lebanon border, so the missiles were only open to attack for five minutes or more, may be another reason why missiles got through.
(3) Some Israeli missiles may have been destroyed by S-300.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2019 16:31 utc | 133

Maybe off-topic, but maybe not….
Pence Recalled To White House As Putin Pulls Out Of Scheduled Event; Officials Say “No Cause For Alarm”
Link

Posted by: Timothy Hagios | Jul 2 2019 16:38 utc | 134

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2019 16:31 utc | 130
Did you even look at the link I put up from SouthFront?
All you are offering speculation while the facts on the ground state otherwise. Israel is boasting how it beat the S-300.
“The airstrikes on Monday were wide ranging, in an area over 160 km. in extent from Homs to Damascus. Their extent – and reports in Syria that they killed civilians – raises the stakes. They also appear to show that the S-300 system was either not effective or not yet turned on. It may be operational, but for whatever reason the Syrian regime and its Russian ally have chosen to keep the launchers in the same place, visible to satellites. This is also a message by the Syrian regime that the launchers are out in the open and that everyone knows where they are. With four launchers, the Syrians have the capacity to track up to one hundred targets and ostensibly strike at many of those targets simultaneously with the system.”
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Did-Israels-latest-strike-prove-Russian-made-s-300-ineffective-594246

Posted by: O | Jul 2 2019 16:42 utc | 135

@ arata 104 Thanks, Iran has had it’s economy and policy openly pulled and pushed around since the war in Lebanon at least, so it is no surprise that it has had to be very adaptive. This is where we are at now though, a larger confrontation that seems like a culmination of several decades of antagonism. The petrol reforms were maybe part necessary because it had become dependent on imports, and much was smuggled out, there was wastage, so I don’t think it was nescessarily Iranian neo-liberal direction as Jen says, as possible it was outside forces that helped make that reform nescessary (along with management shortcomings) , especially when you consider that the effect was to destabilise the country.
(to note to b. that a previous similar comment of mine dissapeared after saying received, might have been that I had vpn on, mistyped email to name, a link, or other… I guess if this comment doesn’t post I am on hold or something )

Posted by: gzon | Jul 2 2019 16:50 utc | 136

@ 0 132
Thanks for all the valuable info from Tel Aviv, especially the boasting and the “facts on the ground.” That’s a normal reaction for a country pushed into a corner, as the US is as well. Both countries have fulsome propaganda capabilities, to provide “facts” and “boasting” as they lose “on the ground” which the NYTimes and JPost can then disseminate to the plebes.
My comment stands.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2019 16:57 utc | 137

Don Bacon
Stop spreading desinformation. Have you already forgot that israel attacked Syria days after the Russia/Israel/US meeting?!
“Russia pays ‘special’ attention to ensuring Israel security”
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190625-russia-pays-special-attention-to-ensuring-israel-security/
“Israel’s Latest Strikes in Syria Prove that the US-Russia-Israel Jerusalem National Security Summit Was a Success”
https://www.globalresearch.ca/israels-latest-strikes-syria-prove-jerusalem-summit-success/5682331

Posted by: Zanon | Jul 2 2019 17:07 utc | 138

Pence Recalled To White House
Cheez, I hope Trump didn’t have an “accident.”
But there is that recent news:
The first US president to enter North Korea, Donald Trump, was accompanied not by his handpicked national security adviser John Bolton, but rather Fox News host Tucker Carlson who recently used his opening monologue to eviscerate Bolton, calling him a “bureaucratic tapeworm” for whom war is “always good business.”

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2019 17:08 utc | 139

@ Zanon 137
Every national government acts toward other governments in what they consider their best interest, and these actions are generally not controllable by a third party. Israel has been put in a corner, much like the US, and is lashing out ineffectively. That’s what they do.
I don’t doubt that you can find writers who disagree with me. Google is your friend. My comment stands.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2019 17:14 utc | 140

Bolton was dispatched to that world hot-spot Mongolia where he tweeted–
John Bolton
@AmbJohnBolton
Delighted to be in Ulaanbaatar & looking forward to meeting with officials to find ways to harness Mongolia’s capabilities in support of our shared economic & security objectives. Thank you for the warm welcome Secretary of State @davaasuren_d

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2019 17:17 utc | 141

@William Gruff #126
> After the election?
Soon before, when it was known (not in public of course) that Hillary is going to loose or at least has significant risk of loosing.
> Not possible without destroying the credibility of the US electoral system,
“Russiagate” destroyed it like dozen of Trump’s broken legs could not.
That was not limiting.
> which is something Trump had no interest in.
Trump is more US politician than US politicians themselves? LOL.
Trump can go back to his business.
Prof-Politicians have nowhere to go as soon as political circus is raized.
> Indeed, that would be as abhorrent a result for Trump
why ???
> as it would be for the rest of the establishment.
Worse than what happened in reality after he was elected?
I don’t buy it.
> Trump is an oligarch, after all, and a liberal one at that.
Neoliberal.
> Abandoning the Democracy© Show and resorting to a police state to maintain the oligarchy is far from what he wants to see happen.
But the Show is already abandoned.
> Except that Trump didn’t rebel. He played his role admirably.
Totally ruining US international stand. A perfect streak of 100% losses. Ever-dwindling “hegemon” influence with NOT A SINGLE win in foreign policy.
If that was what 1% wanted – then I wish them best luck.
> Furthermore, Trump isn’t a slave of the ruling class. He is a member of that ruling class.
So, one “member” can never attack and black-press another “member”
Then who killed JFK? Who downed Nixon ?
Or perhaps there still CAN be wars within that class, and then there can be hostages and slaves, the losers of those wars.
> he was also clearly enjoying himself on the campaign trail.
> He was obviously not campaigning under duress
I did not follow US media, so I did not see first days. But then, if you are forced to drink on a booze party – at least “relax and get pleasured”.
> Why would anyone need to threaten Trump to get him to do that?
Why would want Trump to be dirty-laundred as “Putin’s shil” ?
> They tell us that the elites / establishment / ruling class are making enormous mistakes due to misunderstanding of current conditions in the world.
Foreign policy of US is crazy, but I do not see the inter-American story of Trump election adds to this.
> The ruling class no longer makes their decisions grounded in reality,
Again, the Georgian attack on Russia in 2008 was already an omen. Very bad miscalculation.
And attack on Syria – started before Trump – was another omen.
Surely in-fighting among those “new nomads” accelerated those traits greatly. But they were already there in the open even before 2016.
> When trying to predict what the leadership of the western empire will do next, we must keep in mind that they are not playing with a full deck.
Well, I still think that there is an infighting within what you think is homogenous “ruling class”.
And because both parts are “new nomads” AKA “people of the sea” – they are totally ignoring any consequences and only care about instant gratification of their tactics. They consider environment, infrastructure as something infinitely huge hence not affected by their actions. Microeconomists. People living outside of cause-and-effect.
Thus, when both those warring parties are following “chop off the wall so the roof falls on your neighbor next room” strategy – they are accelerating destruction of US the state. Including Foreign Policy, where all the actions are ONLY measured by how they can be used by pro-Trump and anti-Trump teams domestically and instantly, without nay other consideration. And where BOTH warring parties are acting at the same time and BOTH claim doing it at behest of USA.

Posted by: Arioch | Jul 2 2019 17:20 utc | 142

Don Bacon
Its not “writers” but what Russia have said themselves, statements that runs contrary to your commentary here.
While you are at it, Iam still waiting for you to reply to my query about how Iran would go about practially to close the Hormuz.

Posted by: Zanon | Jul 2 2019 17:20 utc | 143

There seems to be an understanding which entails that Israel does not get to decide when their planes are shot down simply by launching an attack on Syria. In other words Israel attacking Syria from over Lebanon does not automatically mean that those planes become targets then and there although it would be a possibility.
What Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah is reported to have said.
Furthermore one should realize that hiding their hand gives Hezbollah and the others an advantage in case something larger happens. If they respond and attack every jet plane Israel sends out then Israel can trickle out countermeasures at leisure.
They don’t strike back for instant gratification, instead they will use their ability when they decide to.
While any loss of life and limbs and so on is unwanted the military value of the Israeli airstrikes is often entirely nonexistent: they’re taunts, stupid taunts.
It would be interesting to have a look at the actual flight paths (with altitude) of the Israeli jets (not only the general description of their approach which one can easily find reported).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 2 2019 17:24 utc | 144

@ Zanon 142
>You didn’t provide any transcript of what “Russia have said themselves.” If you think it’s important, then provide the evidence with links. Read the instructions: “Post a comment” (not just a link).
>The Strait could easily be closed with sea-mines, and the US has little capacity to clear them.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jul 2 2019 17:31 utc | 145

William Gruff @121 said ‘There is quite a bit in the behavior of the establishment that indicates that Trump’s victory wasn’t part of their plans, while Trump running was definitely part of those plans.’
One has to go back to post 2012 election to get a sense for why Trump and Melania, together, made the decision for him to run. This is when Trump’s armchair political quarterbacking began to ramp up. If you understand what he learned during that period of time you will have a greater appreciation for his and his wife’s decision to run for POTUS in 2016. They did not make the decision to enter the race to be a stooge for the Clinton’s or anybody else. They entered the race to win and they did, together.
I’ve posted this link here before to help readers gain a sense of what motivates him and how he see’s his place in American history. If you sincerely wish to gain greater insight then watch this clip of the address to the deplorables in Gettysburg on the eve of election day – https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=339&v=tHsZxJlxHYw
And William Gruff, it is so disingenuous to suggest he had no transition plan in place if he won. That’s bunk. Here is the full video of his Gettysburg speech outlining what he would do during his first 100 days in office – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDti4vYuOW8
President Trump is no ones puppet. He is not bought and paid for. He is an American citizen who talked politics for decades and after the 2012 election he began to seriously consider running for Prez. His motives are only a mystery to those who were not following his actions b/w 2012 – 2016.
Lastly, to suggest Trump is part of the neolib/con/Third Way Establishment is silly talk. Just b/c one has money does not mean they are part of anything. No one but Melania and Trump made the decision to run in 2016.

Posted by: h | Jul 2 2019 17:32 utc | 146

By the way my comment should not be misunderstood as saying they’ll never attack any of the jets, they might well chose to do so either as a one-off or continually when they have additional reasons for it like testing or confirming new additional capabilities.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 2 2019 17:33 utc | 147

Arioch @145 sez; “…when it was known… that Hillary is going to loose”
It was not know to the establishment that Trump would win until the evening of November 9, 2016… that is, until Trump had already won.
“Russiagate” destroyed [the credibility of the US electoral system] like dozen of Trump’s broken legs could not.”
Not quite. Though “Russiagate” did damage, that was nothing like the damage that would result from the winning candidate handing the crown over to the loser the day after the election. Voters would ask themselves what the point of the whole election was then, which is a question the establishment doesn’t want asked.
“Trump is more US politician than US politicians themselves?”
No, Trump is an oligarch. The “political circus” is necessary to keep the mobs armed with torches and pitchforks distracted from Trump and his peers in the oligarchy. The circus is very important to Trump and his class.
“why ???”
Because that is what keeps Trump and his types from being strung up from the nearest lamp post.
“Worse than what happened in reality after he was elected? I don’t buy it.”
Yes, worse than what has happened so far. Martial law is expensive, and Trump and other oligarchs don’t want to pay for it.
“But the Show is already abandoned.”
No it isn’t. It is now starring Kamala Harris and her gimp, Butt-gig. There are no torch-lit pitchfork-armed mobs stalking the oligarchs (yet). The Show goes on.
“If that was what 1% wanted…”
It isn’t. Your attention is flagging. The 0.1% wanted Clinton in office, but their scheme failed spectacularly.
“Or perhaps there still CAN be wars within that class…”
Yes, ruling class is certainly divided at this time.
“Why would [they] want Trump to be dirty-laundred as “Putin’s shil” ?”
Panic. Delusion. Stupidity. Something screwed up their plans and they have no idea what it was, so their imaginations supplied an enemy to blame.
“Surely in-fighting among those “new nomads” accelerated those traits greatly. But they were already there in the open even before 2016.”
True enough, but there are still many in the world who are not yet convinced that the empire is a threat to them.
“…they are accelerating destruction of US the state…”
Yes, there is division in the ruling class, and I would say that the faction backing Trump feels that the empire is approaching severe crisis in the near term. To be certain, Trump’s sanction craze is encouraging the world to find ways to insulate themselves from the US$, which is “accelerating destruction of US”. At the same time, if crisis is just around the corner then US sanctions may soon lose their impact. As a weapon sanctions will become useless. The Trump faction seems to believe it is best to use that weapon while it is still effective.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 2 2019 18:09 utc | 148

Don Bacon
If you bothered to click on the first link there was quotes from Putin’s rep. on Israel. I dont care what you personally thinks I just counter your desinformation on Iran’s relation with Russia is.
You seems to think iranians are found of the russians…
Iran warns Opec ‘might die’ due to Russia-Saudi domination
https://www.ft.com/content/6f8ce486-9bda-11e9-b8ce-8b459ed04726
Sea-mines? From which harbour? From which boats? Considering US activity and strike capabilities. And exactly when do you think that would occur? Before or after a blockade by the US and their allies?

Posted by: Zanon | Jul 2 2019 18:12 utc | 149

So, “Losharick”‘s catastrophic malfunction is now confirmed officially…
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/60881

Posted by: Arioch | Jul 2 2019 19:38 utc | 150

William Gruff & Arioch @148, et al–
Your dialog has merit as it echoes what two longtime insider/outsiders to the workings of the Outlaw US Empire and members of the Current Oligarchy have observed both before Trump’s election and after the lines of his POTUS behavior were established–I’m referring to Pepe Escobar and Michael Hudson, but they aren’t alone either.
First, here’s Hudson’s reaction to Trump’s 2016 nomination speech. Second, here’s Hudson just after Trump’s inauguration and prior to Russiagate taking full-flight. Then there’s his most important assessment made at the end of January 2019–that Trump is unwittingly ending Dollar Hegemony. When I first linked to and excerpted items from it, a storm of debate rippled though MoA. Now, even more of the trail’s been established and the Russiagate cover-up’s removal makes things easier to see. I’ve only linked to Hudson’s work since Pepe’s isn’t nearly as accessible, particularly as the Asia Times do-over erased the very long archive of his writings compiled there.
There’s clearly a factional battle occurring within the Current Oligarchy which is providing openings that weren’t there previously. There’s also an upheaval within BigLie Media with the destruction of Russiagate but lack of accountability for all the illegalities that remain outstanding going back to Clinton’s lawbreaking and Obama’s obstruction of justice. Then we have a great deal of public agitation at Trump’s policies that’s helping to heal the body-politic by getting it involved instead of remaining passive. Top that with having two very energizing, outspoken, unafraid D-Party POTUS candidates, and the Summer’s off to an auspicious beginning.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 2 2019 19:50 utc | 151

INSTEX, the alternative to SWIFT is now active. That doesn’t mean it’s going to be used with Iran but it does pose a credible threat that it can be used to circumvent SWIFT which afaik is under US control(its headquarters is next to Brussels). It resembles the Iranian measure of increasing enrichment.

Posted by: Tuyzentfloot | Jul 2 2019 20:41 utc | 152

Yes, I just argued that point over at Antiwar.com, where Thomas Knapp suggested Iran was in breach of the Agreement by exceeding 300kg of processed uranium.
Some people refer to article 26, as initially in this post. However, as the update suggests, article 36 is the one that explicitly says the participant can stop compliance “whole in part”
The sequence is: 1) Complain to the Joint Comission; 2) go through the JC’s procedure; 3) then either stop compliance AND/OR refer the case to the UNSC; 4) the UNSC either passes a Resolution continuing sanctions relief, or if such is not passed in a given time OR vetoed by any of the Security Council members (which we know the US would do), the sanctions “snap back” on.
Iran is at point 3 in this process. While I have been unable to find an explicit statement by the Joint Commission that Iran has filed a “formal complaint” – as opposed to 11 “informal complaints” in the past – Iran has claimed that it notified the Joint Commission of its intentions to start partial non-compliance and also notified all the foreign ministers of the participants in the Agreement as well as the EU commissioner in charge of coordinating the Joint Commission. So Iran believes it is at point 3 and therefore has every right under the Agreement to stop complying “in part” until such time as the case is referred to the UNSC.
The kicker is since the US unilaterally withdrew from the Agreement, it no longer has any legal standing to go through the process – and therefore can not refer the case to the UNSC. But Trump doesn’t care since he had no intention of going through the process, but merely trashing the Agreement.
But a lot of people appear to think Iran is “in breach” of the Agreement. They aren’t. They are only in breach when the UNSC says they are OR they withdraw from the Agreement unilaterally (which technically is not a “breach”, it is a “withdrawal.” Article 26 says that if the sanctions are re-imposed, Iran “has said” that they would withdraw from the Agreement entirely. The US has reimposed its sanctions, so Iran could do so at any time. But Iran has not yet done so, not is Iran “in breach”. At this point there is simply a “dispute” and Iran is apparently complying with the Agreement’s resolution process.

Posted by: Richard Steven Hack | Jul 2 2019 21:38 utc | 153

@ 31 n
You make an interesting point, but one, with all due respect, I have to disagree with, as well as all the others here & elsewhere conflating faith and organized religion. For the umpteenth time, these people: Pompeo, Pence, Robertson, and their ilk are NOT Christians. Much the same way as the KKK is NOT Christian nor ISIS Muslim nor the majority of Israelis Jewish – they are all caricatures intended to deceive and mislead the gullible. How do I know? Because TRUE followers of those faiths would not carry on in such a manner (although I can only speak definitively of the Christianity).
*IF* it is the true intention of the US “evangelicals” to bring about the Rapture ™, which BTW is a false doctrine created by Scofield decades ago, under Zionist influence, then why wait? Bring it NOW – drop the bomb(s) and be done with it, sit back and enjoy the Rapture!
Is there some Bible verse you guys know of that states some sort of conditions that must be met before this can be done? If so, I’m all ears. AFAIK there are none… but there are verses that state “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only” Yes, not even the mighty US knows (nor can bring “it” about by the power of their will)
So all this talk about the US itching to bring about Christ’s return is NONSENSE as they would’ve done it already – and like everything else the US does, all such talk is intended primarily for domestic consumption & to fool the gullible, especially weak or nominal Christians.
Bottom-line, all these supposed Zionist-Christians are either neither & just puppets OR they are pure Zionists – full stop – and NOT Christians in ANY sense of the word
Sorry for the rant – the bulk of you guys (& gals) are geopolitical giants, of which I am in awe & can add very little value. But I have a hard time sitting idly by watching God’s name getting dragged through the mud with all these misconceptions…
I will leave you with wise words from Ghandi: “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

Posted by: xLemming | Jul 3 2019 2:44 utc | 154

@William Gruff #148
> It was not known to the establishment that Trump would win until [the fact]
The “Russiagate” started before election results. So, while they did not had 100% warranty of Trump’s win, they had known of significant chances of it.
> “Russiagate” destroyed [the credibility of the US electoral system] like dozen of Trump’s broken legs could not.”
Destroyed “Democratic Show” in general. More than electoral system alone.
>> “Trump is more US politician than US politicians themselves?”
> No, Trump is an oligarch. The “political circus” is necessary to keep the mobs armed with torches and pitchforks distracted from Trump and his peers in the oligarchy. The circus is very important to Trump and his class.
…and now US oligarchs pledge an uphill battle against US politicians for preserving US political system.
What a plot!
Well, this Show might be important for the class of oligarchs, but it tremendously more important for class of politicians. Oligarchs have where to retreat. Martial laws, private islands, something. Politicians do not. If the Show gets disbanded – so it all their “class”.
>> “If that was what 1% wanted…”
> It isn’t. Your attention is flagging. The 0.1% wanted Clinton in office, but their scheme failed spectacularly.
So, war between 0,1% and 1%, between millionaires and billionaires? But when had it started and what was the casus belli? “Who dun it?”
>> “Or perhaps there still CAN be wars within that class…”
> Yes, ruling class is certainly divided at this time.
Then why can not Trump be “rebel” to the “upper dog” strata of the “ruling class”?
Can we certainly set the war had been started before the election, during them, or after?
>> “Why would [they] want Trump to be dirty-laundred as “Putin’s shil” ?”
> Panic. Delusion. Stupidity. Something screwed up their plans and they have no idea what it was, so their imaginations supplied an enemy to blame.
This does not fit the “Trump was/is on their team” bill.
Me and you went fishing, and on arrival we found something is very wrong. We broken rods or maybe forgot bait. Our plans are screwed. What would we (the one team) do? Start fighting? Or hastily come together, join our wits and belongings, and try to improvise together some way out of the mess?
The fact that establishment attacked Trump (and even before the election completed) to me shows he was not “of their team” but was an outsider to them. Otherwise they would solve issues TOGETHER WITH him. Inside “their team”.
Granted, some Russian conspirologists then talked that MSM actually work for Trump’s win. They portrayed him as the only alternative to Hillary. And “marketing rules” suggest that “brand recognition” is more important than whether it is considered “good” or “bad” brand. They said Trump is set to be winner in early summer 2016
> True enough, but there are still many in the world who are not yet convinced that the empire is a threat to them.
And Team Trump work relentlessly and without yet a miss to make sure e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e was convinced.
That does not seem what Clinton/Soros/Google/PNACkers/etc want.
That does not seam they are “one team”.
>> “…they are accelerating destruction of US the state…”
Yes, there is division in the ruling class…
…which imply some minority of that class be rebellious against the current state of affairs. Which imply that is possible Trump – at some unknown point – became a rebel.
> To be certain, Trump’s sanction craze is encouraging the world to find ways to insulate themselves from the US$, which is “accelerating destruction of US”.
1. I do not equate destruction of US’ standing as international hegemon and destruction of US the institution. It is possible that those processes practically became intertwined and inseparable in 2019. But at least by their goals those are different processes. So, “accelerating insulation” is sure thing. But whether it is – by intentional goal or even merely by implementation – also “accelerating destruction” is not clear to me.
2. The “sanction craze” is just yet another bullet in the long list of Trump’s “follies” in FP. Each of those leading to the insulation. Without yet a single miss (last months I keep asking people to show some Trump’s FP actions that enhanced US the hegemon standing – no one yet provided)
ATM I think Trump is pretending utter foolishness in FP to have “plausible deniability”. If he/team were truly erratic – they would sometimes win just be sheer chance.
3. The “acceleration of destruction” I personally attribute not to Trump’s “programme”, but to the aforementioned infighting between “new nomads”. It is coincidence to Trump’s intentional anti-heremonian sabotage of FP. They happen at the same time, but they are not one process.

Posted by: Arioch | Jul 3 2019 8:44 utc | 155

To be more specific, I think ATM USA FP is an interference of those two processes.
1. Team Trump sabotaging the “hegemon” stand.
2. Both pro- and anti-Trump teams using FP actions as “plot devices” to bring some narrative into US domestic media, etc. Sometimes absolutely without considering how what actions might do outside of USA.
For example, when Trump set Saudi Kingdom and Qatar against each other, it was diminishing the Hegemon.
But at the same time it was setting different branches of US MIC against one another. In case of KSA/Qatar war – which land should had been supported by USA? One having Navy base or one having AirForce base? Should AirForce see their base destroyed as a collateral damage or Navy?
Concept of “false flags” – like those tankers – suggests the same.
When Trump sends Abe to Tehran to at least have a talk – another faction fans the flames with Tankergate.
When Trump talks with Xi about international peace – another faction triggers strike at Syria.

Posted by: Arioch | Jul 3 2019 9:00 utc | 156

Khamenei may say Iran is without allies, but objective reality says that isn’t so. I would like to ask him his reasoning since outright lying is yet another thing Muslims are proscribed from doing as he well knows.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 1 2019 23:43 utc | 72

You have to see it in the context of the fact that Iran is in a state of war, and as Sun Tzu said (roughly), in war deception is of critical importance. I think the statement is directly related to the tanker attacks, which were a false flag against Iran, but Iran has turned them around to her benefit, and will continue to do so. Iran has top class humint especially against Israel, the probable primary perpetrator, and probably knew about the attacks in advance, and acted to collect incriminating evidence against both Israel and the secondary (initially unwitting?) perpetrator. At the same time, Iran wants to carry out warning attacks against her enemies and through her proxies such as the Houties and Hezbolla – but NOT like the tanker attacks which are neither in Iran’s interest nor her style.
Leaving maximal ambiguity as to whether Iran was responsible for the tanker attacks has multiple aims: leading the US into a trap by enticing them to release false incriminating evidence against Iran that Iran can later disprove, while proving that Israel/US were in fact the perpetrators; increasing the perceived risks for commercial shipping, increasing oil prices, and increasing Iran’s leverage; increasing pressure on other countries such as EU to help put the lid on the pressure and discourage US/Israel policies; and as a cover for their actual attacks (Saudi/UAE oil assets etc, and at a later stage maybe even some US militatry assets) by increasing confusion and ambiguity. The claims that their very close strategic partnership with Russia/China was on edge was a part of that misinformation, designed to make the US even more overconfident and reckless than it already is, to Iran’s advantage. Iran is a very rational and careful strategic player, well-equipped to take full advantage of US hubris and foolishness. As I stated recently, I think their statement apparently undervaluing the relationship with Russia/China was probably discussed in advance with Russia and China in the context of the strategic aims I outlined above, probably with full Russian and Chinese blessing.
The greatest risk on the table is the US or Israel using nuclear weapons, and Russia has made it clear that that would result in the ultimate response. WWith nuclear weapons off the table, it is probably in Iran’s interest (with some provisoes) to entice the US to underestimate the military support Iran can expect from Russia in the event of a US attack. But I think Russia will give decisive (conventional) military support (probably very limited but in strategically very important and decisive fields such as radar and satellites, and electronic warfare) – not just because Iran is of critical strategic importance to Russia, but also because Russia will thereby be able to test it’s capabilities against US targets and gain critical intelligence on the interaction of US and Russian weapons – all the more to Russia’s advantage if the assistance remains secret.

Posted by: BM | Jul 3 2019 17:02 utc | 157

President Donald Trump isn’t taking “no tanks” for an answer on the Fourth of July.
He said Monday that a display of U.S. military tanks will be part of a special event he’s headlining July 4 in Washington, and an Associated Press photographer saw at least two M1A1 Abrams tanks and two Bradley Fighting Vehicles on flatcars in a railyard at the southeastern edge of Washington.
Military police were guarding the vehicles, which were visible to passers-by on nearby paths.
A U.S. official told the AP that the military vehicles to be used in the July 4 event were being stored at the railyard.

Posted by: John Doe | Jul 3 2019 18:00 utc | 158

the amount of disinfo from hasbaras in this place are too much , B must hit a nerve because hasbaras from all stripes exposed themselves. Zanon , H , and many more hasbaras who attack Don Bacon and arroganty demanding replies to their BS questions and BS links.. One even try to use South Front as proof , when anyone knew SF is nothing more than a front to spread saudi and israeli lies pretending to be otherwise.. One hasbara even tried to push narrative that iran angry with russia , russia ditch iran.. How many times the same BS lies spread by MsM during syrian war ? Putin ditched assad , Putin scared of bibi , Putin take order from israel … what a crock
Love how B kept exposing these low intelligence and low paid hasbaras ..

Posted by: milomilo | Jul 8 2019 12:09 utc | 159