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A Plausible Theory Of What Jeffrey Epstein Was Actually Doing
The first Jeffrey Epstein thread has grown a bit long. Here is a follow up.
For an introduction to the Epstein case please read this.
A question that no one could so far answer is how Epstein got as rich as he appears to be. A person who calls himself Quantian has an interesting theory of what Epstein was actually doing.
Here is the short version:
Epstein offered the post puberty teenyboppers he seduced and/or bribed to the rich people he knew. He invited lots of interesting people – artists, scientists, politicians, rich businessman – to his exclusive parties. There were always these young girls around. There was always a free bedroom. There were also cameras in place. When one of the rich guys messed with a girl Epstein would blackmail him.
But instead of taking cash he asked them for investments in his offshore hedge fund. For someone who owns billions it is peanuts to put a few dozen millions into a fund. It is legal. The money isn't gone. It will even bear interests.
Epstein is not known for having done much currency trades or other larger Wall Street transactions. His company is small, he didn't work a lot. It is likely he mostly re-invested the money in a simple index stock fund which follows the S&P 500. Those type of funds brought over the years quite a good profit.
Epstein would have taken the typical hedge fund fee of 2/20 which is 2% of the investment per year plus 20% of the profits. The hedge fund would be completely legal and there would be no tax troubles. The entrapped people would simply have to stay invested to keep Epstein quiet and the video tapes off the broadsheet market. Some billionaires might have invested upfront to gain access to the girls.
For Epstein the scheme would have been a very elegant way to pursue his personal 'hobby' while creating an ever growing income.
Quantian's theory sounds very plausible to me. It conforms with everything that is publicly known about Epstein and about what he was doing. It does not require any additional conspiracy theory about Mossad/Mafia/CIA involvement. But it also doesn't exclude that there is some.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jul 19 2019 2:15 utc | 368
1) this ‘op’ was aimed at Westerners, not adversaries (CIA’s ability to operate in US was constrained by law until relatively recently – 2013?);
2) CIA had other concerns: in the 1990’s CIA was focused on Russia’s downfall and (hoped for) integration into the West and in the 2000’s they were focused on al-Queda (rendition and torture);
Oh dear. Where to start. Some CIA history.
MK Ultra. Halted in 1973.
Project MKUltra, also called the CIA mind control program, is the code name given to a program of experiments on human subjects that were designed and undertaken by the United States Central Intelligence Agency—and which were, at times, illegal.[1][2][3] Experiments on humans were intended to identify and develop drugs and procedures to be used in interrogations in order to weaken the individual and force confessions through mind control. The project was organized through the Office of Scientific Intelligence of the CIA and coordinated with the U.S. Army Biological Warfare Laboratories
CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking
CIA involvement in trafficking is usually alleged to be connected to the Contra war in Nicaragua and the Iran–Contra affair during the Reagan Administration. In 1986 its spokesman acknowledged that funds from sales of cocaine smuggled into the US had helped fund the Contra rebels, but said that the smuggling was not authorized by the US government or resistance leaders.[1]
A 1986 investigation by a sub-committee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (the Kerry Committee), found that “the Contra drug links included”, among other connections, “[…] payments to drug traffickers by the U.S. State Department of funds authorized by the Congress for humanitarian assistance to the Contras, in some cases after the traffickers had been indicted by federal law enforcement agencies on drug charges, in others while traffickers were under active investigation by these same agencies.”[2]
The charges of CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking were revived in 1996, when a newspaper series by reporter Gary Webb in the San Jose Mercury News claimed that the trafficking had played an important role in the creation of the crack cocaine drug problem in the United States. Webb’s series led to three federal investigations, none of which found evidence of any conspiracy by the CIA or its employees to bring drugs into the United States
It just happened without anybody doing anything. But
The report of the Committee, released on April 13, 1989, found that
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Payments to drug traffickers by the U.S. State Department of funds authorized by the Congress for humanitarian assistance to the Contras, in some cases after the traffickers had been indicted by federal law enforcement agencies on drug charges, in others while traffickers were under active investigation by these same agencies.[2]
According to the report, the U.S. State Department paid over $806,000 to “four companies owned and operated by narcotics traffickers” to carry humanitarian assistance to the Contras.[2]
Regarding CIA knowledge of these facts, the report said:
….the CIA’s Chief of the Central American Task Force went on to say: We knew that everybody around Pastora was involved in cocaine … His staff and friends (redacted) they were drug smugglers or involved in drug smuggling.
The Iran/Contra deal runs very much parallell to Epstein’s rise.
And here is Bill Clinton, Mena Arkansas and the CIA
And consider this
The black economy produced from drug and human trafficking includes the laundering of cash that ultimately ends up in “investment funds” and, ultimately, deposited back into the banks of the Power Elite. For a fee (or equity in an Investment enterprise), ill gotten gains are made clean, leveraged and circulated back into the community, stimulating economic growth and jobs — it bolsters the transparent economy.
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When Miami was a hub for drug trafficking the black economy there visibly resurrected and glamorized a dying, broke city. Likewise, New York City that was bankrupt flourishes as Wall Street’s stock market became a bull market with black economy funds being laundered, deposited and transformed into investment funds.
The CIA serves at the discretion of the President. It is however feared to be a proxy agency of the power elite, as well, given the high level leadership in the intelligence community are members of power elite secret societies, like Yale’s Skull and Bones fraternity.
Above certainly would explain Epstein, Bill Clinton and Trump. It might be true or not, but aligns with what we see.
Posted by: somebody | Jul 19 2019 19:40 utc | 372
Does anyone seriously believe that CIA would let pedophiles and orgy enthusiasts launder their money? Or that CIA would mix-up a money laundering operation with an influencing operation? Highly doubtful.
You answer that yourself – he was under the radar until the 1990’s. He does not drink nor take drugs. The “orgies” were for business – he trafficked. The circles he moved in did not bat an eyelid.
This guy here from Columbus – Wexner country
writes in 2001 on Prince Andrew, Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein:
January 25, 2001 – Imagine Columbus Alive’s surprise last week when Nigel Rosser, a British journalist and reported confidant of the royal family, contacted us to inquire about Prince Andrew’s central Ohio connection. Rosser had read two award-winning Alive stories–“The Shapiro Murder File” and “Spook Air”–and wanted to chat about our own Leslie Wexner and his top aide, the mysterious Jeffrey E. Epstein.
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Whatever Epstein does, Rosser’s article pointed out that he and Prince Andrew “now appear to have evolved a curious symbiotic relationship–whenever Ghislaine is seen with Andrew, Epstein is never far behind.” Rosser cited an unnamed friend of the Prince saying that Andrew’s a “very poor judge of character.” Last May, Andrew went on a vacation with Epstein and Ghislaine in Florida. Rosser claimed he also attended a “hookers and pimps” Halloween party in New York with Ghislaine.
Epstein “has a license to carry a concealed weapon, once claimed to have worked for the CIA–although he now denies it–and owns properties all over America,” Rosser noted. When he’s not globe-trotting, Epstein has the choice of many places to call home, including a fortress-like mansion in New Mexico, a $40 million New York townhouse, and the second most expensive residence in central Ohio. Of course, the mansion is located in New Albany, near his close friend and mentor, billionaire Wexner.
“Epstein began working for Mr. Wexner in 1985 and by the late 1980s had become wealthy, through, among other things, handling his worldwide air freight concerns and his fabulous collection of art, which includes a $45 million Picasso,” the Evening Standard reported. Epstein also serves as a trustee of the Columbus-based Wexner Foundation.
Yes, Israel was involved in Iran-Contra, too. That is where the weapons were from.
But “tipped kettle” was an initiative of the US government.
In the 1989 trial of Oliver North, it was stated that the US had “admitted for the purposes of this trial that” the matter had begun with a request from the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, William Casey, to Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger, to ascertain whether the weapons captured by Israel could be obtained by the US.
You are right that it is not probable that Epstein was employed by the CIA as in “official employee”, much more likely he worked as freelancer and liaison to Mossad (with Ghislaine Maxwell). But he had protection and this protection must have come from the CIA.
From the article above
he late tycoon’s daughter fled Britain and now resides in Manhattan, where the Columbus connection emerges. Rosser reported that Ghislaine is a one-time partner of Epstein, “an immensely powerful New York property developer and financier.” Other newspaper reports have described Epstein as everything from a concert pianist, corporate spy, math teacher, stockbroker, merchant banker, and globe-trotting businessman. He has steadfastly denied rumors of links to the Israeli Mossad. Maxwell denied similar connections just prior to his accident at sea.
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Epstein “has a license to carry a concealed weapon, once claimed to have worked for the CIA–although he now denies it–and owns properties all over America,” Rosser noted. When he’s not globe-trotting, Epstein has the choice of many places to call home, including a fortress-like mansion in New Mexico, a $40 million New York townhouse, and the second most expensive residence in central Ohio. Of course, the mansion is located in New Albany, near his close friend and mentor, billionaire Wexner.
The Iranian side of the Iran Contra deal is not fully know. What did they promise to do for the weapons in Afghanistan?
Posted by: somebody | Jul 20 2019 7:04 utc | 375
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