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June 02, 2019

MoA Week In Review - Various Issues - OT 2019-31

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:


Other issues:

Reuters headlined today: U.S. prepared to engage with Iran without pre-conditions: Pompeo

Reading the very first sentence one immediately learns that the headline is lie:

BELLINZONA, Switzerland (Reuters) - The United States is prepared to engage with Iran without pre-conditions about its nuclear program but needs to see the country behaving like “a normal nation”, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Sunday.

What does Pompeo mean when he uses the phrase "a normal nation"? We can discern that by reading his May 2018 speech, After the Deal: A New Iran Strategy. In it Pompeo lays out twelve "requirements" that the U.S. wants Iran to fulfill. Together they are a demand to Iran to 'regime change' itself, to lay down and play dead. Pompeo then goes on to say:

So we’re not asking anything other than that Iranian behavior be consistent with global norms, ...

"A normal nation" is one that behaves "consistent with global norms". Pompeo will only talk with Iran after it fulfills all the "requirements" he set out a year ago. How Reuters can sells that as "without pre-condition" is a mystery.


The New York Times has a long new piece on the Boeing 737 MAX: Boeing Built Deadly Assumptions Into 737 Max, Blind to a Late Design Change

Apart from some new quotes I find no fact in there that was not mentioned in on of the 737 pieces on this site. Meanwhile not one mainstream outlet has written about the safety problems of the 737 NG trim which we extensively discussed here. That piece also noted that it will take quite some time for the 737 MAX to be allowed back into the air.  Other agencies than the FAA will want to check it out and that will take some time. The president of Emirates Airline agrees with that view:

Boeing Co.’s 737 Max will likely not be back in the skies before the end of this year because of a fall-out in cooperation between the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration and other national regulators, according to Tim Clark, president of Emirates.

“You’re going to have a bit of a delay in terms of regulators, Canada, Europe, China,” Clark told reporters at the IATA annual meeting in Seoul. “It’s going to take time to get this aircraft back in the air. If it’s in the air by Christmas I’ll be surprised.”

The proven FAA failure to appropriately check Boeing's designs will have additional consequences:

Clark also said regulators are now set to take a more stringent view on Boeing’s next plane, the 777X, which is targeted to begin commercial flights in 2020. Boeing is seeking regulatory approval for the jet which, just like the 737 Max, is an update of an existing model.

The Trump administration wants to discourage all those nasty foreigners who want to spend their vacation money in the United States:

The State Department is now requiring nearly all applicants for U.S. visas to submit their social media usernames, previous email addresses and phone numbers. ... In addition to their social media histories, visa applicants are now asked for five years of previously used telephone numbers, email addresses, international travel and deportation status ...

The new rule will affect some 15 million visa per year. That is a lot of new data for the NSA to crosscheck.


Use as open thread ...

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Pompeo on Iran (...displaced millions of people, etc....) @82

Nice find Don Bacon. Of course the criminal compulsively blames others for his crimes. Iran has provided sanctuary for about 3M refugees from Afghanistan. He is probably trying to triple count the Syrian refugees that we alternatively blame on Assad, Russia, and Iran, you know the refugees that we are preventing from returning to Syria, them.

My country has lost all honor. We can lie to ourselves but the Syrians, Iranians, and even the Saudis know the truth.

Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 4 2019 8:15 utc | 101

@36 nemesis: Do you mean could care less or couldn't care less?

Posted by: Gene Poole | Jun 4 2019 11:08 utc | 102

Zachary Smith @94 said things like:

"...I've no way of making any authoritative claim about casualties, but deep in my bones I believe..."


"I suspect the slaughter..."

"Beliefs" and "suspicions". This is the part of the psyche that western capitalist media-based programming works on. They hit the mass McMedia consumer below the rational mind with feelings and emotion. They totally skip logic and facts as those just muddy the message that is being implanted in the consumer's "gut" and "bones".

"Maybe it doesn't make any sense, but I feel in my gut that it is so!"

The "Truth™" as most in the West believe without question, and equally without reason or facts, is that Tienanmen Square ran red with blood that evening. So you see, delusion didn't start with imaginary WMDs in Iraq, or faked chemical attacks in Syria. The divorce from reality in the West started many, many years earlier.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 4 2019 11:18 utc | 103

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 4, 2019 7:18:55 AM | 103

There are some indications that Cold War 2.0 with Russia is over. And TienAnMen Square is back. OK it has been thirty years this year, but still.

No one died on the square itself.

This effort is impressive, especially considering the overwhelming evidence that there was no Tiananmen Square massacre. A recent book by Madrid’s ambassador to Beijing at the time, Eugenio Bregolat, notes that Spain’s TVE channel had a television crew in the square at the time, and if there had been a massacre, they would have been the first to see it and record it.

He points out angrily that most of the reports of an alleged massacre were made by journalists hunkered down in the safe haven of the Beijing Hotel, some distance from the square.

Then there is Graham Earnshaw, a down-to-earth Reuters correspondent who spent the night of June 3-4 at the alleged site of the massacre — at the center of Tiananmen Square — interviewing students in detail until the troops finally arrived in the early dawn. He too failed to see any massacre. As he writes in his memoirs, “I was probably the only foreigner who saw the clearing of the square from the square itself.”

Earnshaw confirms that most of the students had left peacefully much earlier and that the remaining few hundred were persuaded by the troops to do likewise.

His account is confirmed by Xiaoping Li, a former China dissident, now resident in Canada, writing recently in Asia Sentinel and quoting Taiwan-born Hou Dejian who had been on a hunger strike on the square to show solidarity with the students: “Some people said 200 died in the square and others claimed that as many as 2,000 died. There were also stories of tanks running over students who were trying to leave. I have to say I did not see any of that. I was in the square until 6:30 in the morning.”
When armed troops were finally sent in, they too met hostile crowds, but they kept advancing. Dozens of buses and troop-carrying vehicles were torched by the crowds, some with their crews trapped inside. In the panicky fighting afterward, hundreds, maybe even thousands, of civilians and students were killed. But that was a riot, not a deliberate massacre. And it did not happen in Tiananmen Square. So why all the reports of a “massacre”?

In a well-researched 1998 article in the Columbia Journalism Review titled “Reporting the Myth of Tiananmen and the Price of a Passive Press,” the former Washington Post bureau chief in Beijing, Jay Mathews, tracks down what he calls the dramatic accounts that buttressed the myth of a student massacre.

He notes a widely disseminated piece by an alleged Chinese university student writing in the Hong Kong press immediately after the incident, describing machine guns mowing down students in front of the square monument (somehow Reuter’s Earnshaw chatting quietly with the students in front of the same monument failed to notice this.

Mathews adds: “The New York Times gave this version prominent display June 12, just a week after the event, but no evidence was ever found to confirm the account or verify the existence of the alleged witness.”

And for good reason, I suspect. The mystery report was very likely the work of U.S. and British black information authorities ever keen to plant anti-Beijing stories in unsuspecting media.
The irony in all this, as Mathews points out, was that everyone, including himself, missed the real story. This was not the treatment of the students, who toward the end of their sit-in had deliberately courted trouble. The real story, as Earnshaw also notes, was the uprising of the civilian masses against a regime whose gray hand of corruption, oppression and incompetence ever since the Cultural Revolution days of the late 1960s had reduced an entire population to simmering resentment.
But that was China then. Today we have a very different China, and one far too important to be subjected to black information massacre myths, particularly since the world seems very happy to forget the very public massacres of students that have occurred elsewhere — Mexico in 1968 and Thailand in 1973, for starters. There, we saw no attempt by the authorities to negotiate problems. The troops moved in immediately. Hundreds died.

Photos have helped sustain the Tiananmen massacre myth. One showing a solitary student halting a row of army tanks is supposed to demonstrate student bravery in the face of military evil. In fact, it shows that at least one military unit showed restraint in the face of student provocation (reports say only one rogue unit did most of the evil that night).

Photos of lines of burning troop carriers are also used, as if they prove military mayhem. In fact, they prove crowd mayhem. Meanwhile, we see little photo support for the other side of the story.
Earnshaw notes how a photo of a Chinese soldier strung up and burned to a crisp was withheld by Reuters. Dramatic Chinese photos of solders incinerated or hung from overpasses have yet to be shown by Western media. Photos of several dead students on a bicycle rack near the square are more convincing.
Declassified reports from the U.S. Embassy in Beijing at the time, and which used to confirm the Earnshaw/Hou accounts of square events (they have since been heavily censored), still carry a summary that mentions how the murder by students of a soldier trying to enter the square had triggered violence in the square’s periphery.

People died that night but not only protesters.

Posted by: somebody | Jun 4 2019 12:01 utc | 104

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This here is Ai Wei Wei on Tien An Men

I like him, he is a great artist. He is not just critical of China but also of "the West".

The core of his argument is this.
"Despite attempts to cover up, whitewash and misinterpret “June Fourth” over the past 30 years, from the moment the first bullet was fired that day the regime’s legitimacy was compromised. Nothing can change that."

This is the core of regime change strategy from Syria to Maidan to Iran to wherever- to provoke the state to kill so it loses legitimacy.

I agree with Ai Wei Wei - Chinese lack of freedom will be a problem for the whole world, the more powerful China gets. They are way ahead in technology and control.

But this becoming an issue now when the US decided on a trade war with China
is no accident (make no mistake this is continuous from Obama to Trump, Trump has just got a different style).

Posted by: somebody | Jun 4 2019 12:22 utc | 105

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The story of the iconic Tien An Men Spare photo with more photos

Subtitle of a photo

A student protester puts barricades in the path of an already-burning armored vehicle. A soldier who escaped the vehicle was killed by demonstrators.


From the hotel balcony, Widener watched as the man confronted the lead tank, standing directly in front of it. The tank stopped and tried to go around the man. The man moved with the tank, blocking its path once again.

At one point during the standoff, the man climbed aboard the lead tank and appeared to speak to whoever was inside.

“I was about a half mile away from the row of tanks and so I could not really hear much,” Widener said.

The man was eventually pulled away by onlookers. To this day, we don’t know who he is and what happened to him. But he remains a powerful symbol of defiance.

It sounds like they tried NOT to kill anybody. They did not have modern instruments of crowd control Western States use routinely eg. against the Yellow Wests. That they did not feel they needed them before 1989 tells you something about Chinese society.

Posted by: somebody | Jun 4 2019 12:37 utc | 106

@90 dh.. i am sure that is true... and how does that translate as ''it's canadas fault?'' that is what i find baffling about the report as i understand it..

Posted by: james | Jun 4 2019 14:20 utc | 107

"TORONTO (Reuters) - Canada will suspend operations at its embassy in Venezuela immediately because its diplomats will no longer be able to obtain visas, the Canadian foreign minister said on Sunday.

Chrystia Freeland said in a statement that President Nicolas Maduro’s “regime has taken steps to limit the ability of foreign embassies to function in Venezuela.” "

Posted by: arby | Jun 4 2019 14:40 utc | 108

Alistair Crooke has written many truly excellent and penetrating articles recently, published on Strategic Culture. His latest, though, is the exact opposite in my opinion - it falls a million miles from the mark: that is just my feeling (and hope), not fact.

Russia’s Middle East Brinkmanship vs. Acquiescence to Trump’s Greater Israel Plan

His thesis is that Putin is alleged to be willing to acquiesce to the US/Israeli Greater Israel Plan, in return for "political settlement" to Syria and restoration of normal relations between the US and Russia. The article is extremely muddled and illogical (and what Crooke is actually arguing for is not crystal clear for that reason), and is profoundly flawed in its entirety because it apparently relies almost exclusively on US propaganda as primary basis for a fundamental rethink of Russia's actions and intentions - foolish indeed.

To argue that Russia would be prepared to lose the entire war and everything that she has so painstakingly and patiently fought for just for the "minor" advantages of "political settlement" and restoration of normal relations with the US is crass stupidity in the extreme.

So, that is just my opinion of this unquestionably highly problematic article. I'd welcome other opinions of this article, whether I've missed the point, whether someone sees what Crooke is really getting at. I must say I suspect that Crooke himself doesn't really see what he is getting at! Strategic Culture has really taken a dramatic plunge in quality recently, together with a fatally flawed new format. Has it got a new Editor/management, does somebody know? It used to be my staple diet, but with the recent changes it is a total turn off now.

Posted by: BM | Jun 4 2019 14:40 utc | 109

more scientific support that the douma gas attack was staged:

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jun 4 2019 14:53 utc | 110

@ BM
I agree with you on Crooke, but for a different reason.
Yet this new balance of power is not consolidated. It has not yet been stabilised. Rather, it is finely poised. Events could tip it in a number of different directions. The point here, is that Russia finds itself at the pivot of events – like it, or not.
Operation Iraqi Freedom put Iraq in Iran's orbit, and the Syria victory over the US and its Gulf allies extended Iran's influence to the Mediterranean. No doubt. So the balance of power has been consolidated, it's name is Iran, and Russia is largely irrelevant. Also the US. "Greater Israel Plan?" . . .Warm baloney. This fact is why the US is so pissed at Iran, despite the silly chatter about nukes and terrorism.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 4 2019 14:55 utc | 111

Dunno james. Obviously a lot of indigenous folk have a problem adjusting to the modern world but I've met Canadian natives who have been to university and seem to do fine. Some get into government. Some of them studied law so they may be the ones behind the report.

Posted by: dh | Jun 4 2019 14:56 utc | 112

@109 bm... i tend to agree with you....

"His long-standing interest in restored relations with Russia are very plain." statements from crooke, like this one, fly in the face of reality.. trump has his head so far up israels ass, it's obscene.. the usa is focused on iran, thanks israel... i really don't think for a minute putin / larvov are asleep here either.. meanwhile israel continues to lob bombs into syria with not a peep from anyone... israel is on a one way road to oblivion as i see it... it might take some time, but as i see it trumps actions just quicken the whole process for the blatant honesty of his acts in subservience to israel... to think putin or larvov would go along with this is not something i relate to... '''his long-standing interest'''.. what a pile of shite!!

Posted by: james | Jun 4 2019 14:56 utc | 113

@dh.. in our politically correct reality - the indigenous folks are given huge perks and incentives.. free hands outs up the wazoo... fortunately some of them take up the opportunities and do well... it isn't the case with all of them however..

Posted by: james | Jun 4 2019 14:59 utc | 114

@james I read the report (posted helpfully by karlof1 @85). I don't doubt that there is a huge problem with the abuse of native women but "race-based genocide" sounds a little strong to me. Not sure what they hope to accomplish with the report. Better policing? Compensation? Reconciliation?

Posted by: dh | Jun 4 2019 15:21 utc | 115

BM @109 re Crooke:

I find his take very unconvincing, for lots of reasons, Putin would have to be a fool to trust Trump/USA at this point in such a consequential matter, for one, and to sabotage China for another. It's just a heck of a reach.

I think he is over-stating Trump's commitment to the "Greater Israel" project, or his malleability under pressure to the same end, if you prefer. At the same time what comes (or doesn't) from these "negotiations" should tell us a lot about that, and Crooke is knowledgeable and informative most of the time, he may just have had an off day.

I vaccillate all the time between the "Trump is a shallow tool" point of view and the "Trump is a clever low-grade conman and actor" version, and tend to the latter based on the company he keeps.

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 4 2019 15:30 utc | 116

Talk about iron curtain....

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 4 2019 15:54 utc | 117

@ Bemildred who wrote
I vaccillate all the time between the "Trump is a shallow tool" point of view and the "Trump is a clever low-grade conman and actor" version, and tend to the latter based on the company he keeps.
LOL! But he is a well dressed grifter hence my Liberace grifter appellation

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 4 2019 16:22 utc | 118

BM @109

It reads to me like a mish-mash of Trump apologist nonsense (11-dimensional chess) and "Putin is a Zionist" nonsense delivered as a "what if".

But I've never been a big fan of Crooke's.

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A cynic would note that the Mueller Report came weeks before the breakdown of trade talks with China, magically allowing Trump the flexibility to make a peace overture to Russia - just as Russia and Syria were about to attack Idlib. One can imagine Pompeo's plea to Putin: "seize this opportunity for peace!" Which, of course is completely self-serving.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 4 2019 16:36 utc | 119

Some may ask, "why is it self-serving?" Isn't peace in everyone's interest?

It's self-serving because the objective is not peace but to manipulate Russia into further delaying any action against Idlib and to disrupt the Russia-Chinese alliance by the appearance of warmer USA-Russia relations.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 4 2019 16:48 utc | 120

@115 dh.. it is a complicated set up.. i just got back from a walk with the dogs and while driving in the car was listening to more of this... they talk of a story from the 80's with kids getting drunk and then running into problems.. i am thinking about how much alcohol enters into the equation.. now, one could say - these folks drink because their situation is hopeless, but to me at what point do folks take responsibility for their actions, as opposed to blaming the gov't for all their problems? and, yes - i am generalizing and stereo typing here.. the genocide word could have maybe been using a hundred years ago, but at this point, i don't think so.. the vancouver scene has a lot of drug and alcohol addiction issues, combined with prostitution and poverty and lots of first nation folks involved too.. many of the disappearances of first nation women is connected to this, but they seem to not want to talk about it from this angle... well, sorry, but that is what i have seen and know about.. teh first nations are very much patriarchal.. the chief is almost always a guy and the money goes to the chief who then decides who is going to give it to... what happens is the relatives get some of it, but not everyone gets it.. this is gov't money meant to help these communities... as for jobs - many of these communities are isolated and removed from the urban areas where their might be more work...

well, here in b.c. the main industries - fishing, logging and mining - have all been replaced with machinery... some of the first nation folks have land that they log and mine, but lots of them probably don't as well...ownership of land and etc is an ongoing issue - transmountain pipeline tried to make agreements with the first nations folks.. some of them are going along with it and some aren't... the whole dynamic is a complex and very nuanced one... these msm in your face moments only touch the surface of it..

Posted by: james | Jun 4 2019 16:51 utc | 121

All commentators about Crooke's latest--

Somewhat dumbfounded as much of what he wrote contradicts his previous efforts. As for Trump's Deal of Century, it's already a dead duck and Crooke ought to know that. The entire idea/dream of Greater Israel died with Syria's victory over the terrorist proxy war waged against it. And Russia's ferocity against the remaining Turkish-backed terrorists in the current offensive is well documented but Crooke ignores it completely. Current comment speculates the goal is to clear the M-5 highway and perhaps also the M-4 to facilitate commerce, which I agree with, but we've yet to see the utilization of the major forces assembled in Western Aleppo and the direction they take.

Meanwhile, Pompeo recycles his well worn lies. Most of the world knows which nation broke the JCPOA UN Resolution, but BigLie Media is incapable of telling that truth as that upends its entire Iran Narrative. Earlier in this thread @54 I described the Big Picture reality and the futility of trying to alter it using the same old stories. I'd like to direct MoA to the speech by the Chinese Defense Minister at the annual Shangri-La Conference held recently in Singapore. The Minister has Truth on his side and has no fear when it comes to shoving it in the face of the Outlaw US Empire as exhibited in his opening four points that frame his speech:

"First, which should we choose, peace and development or conflict and confrontation? Peace and development remain the call of our times and the trend of history. However, global and regional hotspots flare up one after another and the risk of conflict and war persists. What is the cause for regional wars and conflicts, the spread of terrorism, the chaos in the Middle East and the refugee crisis in Europe? Who are behind all these and what is the root cause? These are the questions to be reflected on. Some deliberately create division and hostility, provoke confrontation, meddle with regional affairs, interfere in internal affairs of others, and frequently resort to arms. Whose interests on earth do they serve and whose do they harm?

"Second, which should we choose, openness and inclusiveness or isolation and exclusiveness? See the world with an open and inclusive mind, and there will be friends and partners everywhere. See the world with a narrow and exclusive mind, and there are only enemies and adversaries. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. However, lately we see a growing backlash against globalization and a surge of protectionism. A certain country champions unilateralism, puts its own interests before others, withdraws from international treaties and organizations. Aren't there many countries suffering from the willful infringement and sanctions?

"Third, which should we choose, win-win cooperation or zero-sum game? Win-win cooperation makes the pie bigger and brings more benefits to all. However, zero-sum game makes no winner and harms the interests of both sides. Currently, over 150 countries and international organizations have proactively joined China's Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). Not long ago, over 6,000 delegates from 150 countries and 92 international organizations gathered in Beijing for the second Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation. People can tell what is right.

"Fourth, which should we choose, mutual learning among civilizations or arrogance and prejudice? A few days ago, China successfully hosted the Conference on Dialogue of Asian Civilizations. We believe that human civilizations are and should be colorful, equal, inclusive and willing to learn from each other. Not a single civilization should be worshiped or belittled. There are scars and tragedies in the history of human civilization which do not go away, to name only a few, the enslavement of Africans, the expulsion of native American Indians, the colonization in Asia, Africa and Latin America, and the killing of Jewish people. Unfortunately, some people recently pick up the decadent idea of "clash of civilizations". As racist and narrow-minded as it is, this is not right. How can we tolerate such a regress of history?" [Emphasis Original]

Pretty powerful gouging of the eyes, IMO. And what could possibly be said in defense to justify the Outlaw US Empire's actions? Yes, the Truth is very powerful. The Minister's words regarding Taiwan were made such that there can be no mistaking China's policy and that no external action to change that policy will ever be allowed. As for the South China Sea, the destabilizing force isn't from the region but resides across the ocean and would facilitate stability by staying away.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 4 2019 17:05 utc | 122

@james #113


From "laVR" = laurel plant

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 4 2019 17:06 utc | 123

@123 arioch.. thanks.. spelling error on my part.. didn't know the connection to the laurel plant.. interesting!

Posted by: james | Jun 4 2019 17:15 utc | 124

@ karlof1 with his latest rant taking off Cookes's work....good job there!

I think an inflection point is coming but when one is this close, how do you know? There are those "drowning" in the sea of Western propaganda as we write our textual white noise.....look, the US market is up 400+ points today....all is good....lets go to the beach........

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 4 2019 17:16 utc | 125

psychohistorian says:

lets go to the beach

we're going tomorrow, see ya.

Posted by: john | Jun 4 2019 17:25 utc | 126

@121 Thanks for your take james. You know much more than me...obviously some native reserves are in a better bargaining position than others. The problem for young natives must always be how to adapt to the dominant society. On the one hand they are encouraged to abide by traditional ways but they can't get far without education. I imagine those who adapt too well to white culture are accused of selling out.

Posted by: dh | Jun 4 2019 17:38 utc | 127

I don't understand the uproar about the Crooke essay. The central theme I saw was this:

That is to say, Trump wants Russia’s acquiescence to the Greater Israel project, and its active help in containing reaction.

In my opinion there is no 'upside' for Russia in playing along with this, and almost unlimited 'downside'. If Crooke provided evidence Russia is considering doing this then I missed seeing it. Russians saying things designed not to inflame the Orange POTUS isn't the same thing as "support" for his End-Timer initiatives, IMO.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Jun 4 2019 17:55 utc | 128 escalates quickly. Is it "brace for impact" or did USA just took challenge to oversovetize Soviets?


The DETER (Defending Elections against Trolls from Enemy Regimes) Act was adopted in the US Senate on Monday by unanimous vote, a very rare occurrence these days. The legislation adds “improper interference in a US election” to the existing list of immigration law violations, banning all who are deemed guilty from obtaining a US visa or threatening deportation from the country, among other things

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 4 2019 18:27 utc | 129

....we used to call Russian parliament "rabid printer" you won't believe....

Posted by: Arioch | Jun 4 2019 18:31 utc | 130

@ karlof1 | Jun 4, 2019 1:05:50 PM #122

The Minister's words regarding Taiwan were made such that there can be no mistaking China's policy and that no external action to change that policy will ever be allowed.

The Chinese understand that Taiwan doesn't need "external" help to be nearly indigestible. Just as the apartheid Jewish state could overwhelm Hezbollah if it made such a decision, the costs would be so high it hasn't happened. Ditto for Taiwan. Whenever Trump or anyone else makes a big show of helping Taiwan it's a political statement specifically designed to irritate China. Stealthy assistance is another matter entirely. Consider the Hsiung Feng III cruise missile. The Wiki says Taiwan has been making them since 2007 it might have quite a stockpile. I suspect that wiki was written by Taiwan, for it describes the missile in blood-curdling terms.

The Hsiung Feng III (HF-3; "Brave Wind III") is an advanced long range hypersonic nuclear missile designed to carry either a conventional warhead or a nuclear weapons warhead, biological weapons warhead or chemical weapons warhead capable of speeds over Mach 10 and have the precise ability to accurately strike military and civilian targets such as nuclear reactors and the Three Gorges Dam deep inside the mainland territory of the People's Republic of China (PRC).

This looks like a bold statement which might or might not be a hot-air bluff. Taiwan is a wealthier nation than Iran, and ought to be at least as dangerous in a knock-down drag-out fight.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Jun 4 2019 18:44 utc | 131

As psychohistorian knows, I live at the beach, and we're being graced with a second fogless day I a row, although it remains cool--only low 60s.

Building on the Big Picture content of 54 & 122, curiosity prompted me to enter Conference on Dialogue of Asian Civilizations as a search term in Google to see what it produced and whether my hypothesis that it would contain very few Western based publications would be proven correct. Alas, I was correct, and those outlets put a negative spin on the event opposite of its announced goal. Here's the English transcript of the presser held prior to the event. The momentum for such a conference has built since it was first forwarded at Shanghai in 2014, so it was no off-the-cuff gig, although its timing to follow the BRI Forum in Beijing to make the trip to China more productive was deliberate. What follows was the announced theme:

"First, the theme is clear. The theme of the conference is 'Exchanges and Mutual Learning among Asian Civilizations and a Community with a Shared Future', which reflects important philosophies articulated by Chinese President Xi Jinping. These include exchanges and mutual learning among civilizations, the establishment of an Asian community with a shared future and building of a shared future for mankind. The conference not only reflects the general hopes and wishes from Asian countries but also those of the entire world. The activities of the conference are designed and developed around this theme." [My Emphasis]

After reading the transcript, the question begged is Why wasn't such a conference initiated by a Western nation? Note that the idea was formed prior to Trump and his Trade War and that it was publicly articulated. I think it's safe to say that no Western nation proposed an equivalent because their geopolitical lens still sees relations in terms of dominance and subordination, not cooperation amongst equals as is divulged in the presser. I also think it fair to say that most of the people residing in the West aren't aware such a conference even occurred despite its obvious importance. Perhaps readers have seen the threads of the overture being made to humanity by China and Russia though their BRI/EAEU conception. They're present within Xi's articulation of BRI and Putin's of EAEU; they're within the four points of the Chinese Defense Minister's speech; and they're within the theme of the Conference on Dialogue of Asian Civilizations. AND they're also within the UN Charter.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 4 2019 19:14 utc | 132

@ ZS 131
>Taiwan is not a "nation" it is a province of China, and China naturally will fight to keep it that way.
>In fact Taipei claims to be the government of all of China under the "Republic of China" moniker.
>Israel once (2006) tried to overwhelm Hezbollah, but failed, and Hez is much better armed now.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 4 2019 19:25 utc | 133

@ karlof 132
Why wasn't such a conference initiated by a Western nation?
Certainly the US isn't going to get into a conference dialoque, and wouldn't allow other western nations to do so, b/c that would imply international equality, which is not conducive to the continuance of US world hegemony. US "diplomacy" consists mainly of threats (Pompeo is now doing what H.Clinton did, daily insults & threats to other countries) and sanctions if other countries don't do what they're told.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 4 2019 19:47 utc | 134

Zach @131--

Unlike Iran, Taiwan's devotions aren't united. The Defense Minister likened the situation to the US Civil War but only cited Lincoln's holding the Union together and not dwelling on the divided political situation as the reason for the conflict. Taiwan/Formosa has always been a Chinese province. The One China reality is adhered to by the UN and vast majority of nations, including within Outlaw US Empire policy. Outlaw US Empire philosophy of Domination versus Cooperation says it must continue to provoke China with Taiwan and anything else it can use. It seems clear that the Current Oligarchy is intent on fulfilling what it sees as its duty to uphold the White Man's Burden when examining the Big Picture. But those days are over and the Burden is becoming that of an unwillingness to change with the tides of history.

The significance of the Silk Road to human history is vast, particularly with the Western obsession of capturing it for itself at the expense of Islam as that initiated what's known as the Age of Discovery and Western Colonialism, the latter of which is still dying its excruciatingly slow death. The West fears the subjugation it forced on the world to be turned on itself by China's ascendency, but China says that's not what it seeks. China says its goals are much higher than mere mastery over others--power from barrel of gun that can be accomplished my mediocrities. China understands very well the crises faced by humanity as its own development is a microcosm of the larger crises. Why does the West doubt China's stated altruistic intentions? Because the West would never act that way and thinks humanity is mostly like it, which is an arrogant and false assumption.

Does China seek becoming an exceptional nation? No. It's already established an exceptional civilization and nation built upon that; but China would never claim to be exceptional and would say instead that it has too many faults to lay claim to such an exalted status. Instead, China says it has much to learn from other civilizations and all can benefit through joint cooperation--even those who once claimed supreme superiority over all other humans.

The Taiwanese know all that as they're Chinese. A very large minority want to reunify now, and they have a political party that articulates that policy. Unification and harmony are the only functional ways forward for humanity given the crises we face. The great impediment are the Western nations led by the Outlaw US Empire. That's the Big Picture.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 4 2019 20:04 utc | 135

Re the Crooke article. Crooke needs to look up some of the videos in which Putin is asked why he refers to the US as partners. He always explains along the lines that Russia and US must keep talking on various issues as the option to that is war.

Trump admin and the middle east and Iran. Although for sometime I have believed Trump's goals were both energy dominance and Israel, both being brought to fruition with the downfall of Iran (controling China's oil supply), only one writer - Pepe Escobar - has voiced this. Crooke came close some time back but has drifted away from this angle.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Jun 4 2019 20:48 utc | 136

@127 dh... here is the latest... it is all about being politically correct and gearing up for the october election.. we have such vacuous leaders here in canada, we give the usa a run for their money! trudeau is like obama - all surface polish and no substance... our next leader will be like trump... some stupid jackass that makes us look worse then we already are!

Trudeau says deaths and disappearances of Indigenous women and girls amount to 'genocide' - politically correct? check... nice guy, but no substance... a pale shadow of his dad..

Posted by: james | Jun 4 2019 21:14 utc | 137

@137 OK so Justin calls it genocide. No doubt he also blames colonialism, the patriarchy, residential schools, cultural breakdown, prostitution, drugs and alcohol etc. Anything new?

Posted by: dh | Jun 4 2019 21:49 utc | 138

To add to karlof's excellent China summary, there is the century of humiliation also known as the hundred years of national humiliation, which refers to the period of intervention, imperialism and occupation by Western powers and Japan in China between 1839 and 1949. The Chinese people have not forgotten.
. . .from Smedley Butler, General USMC:

“I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”

Posted by: d | Jun 4 2019 22:04 utc | 139

@ karlof1 | Jun 4, 2019 4:04:58 PM #135

At first glance I's say Taiwan is more "united" than Iran. According to the wiki, Iran is 61% Persians and the remainder is an interesting brew of "others". I read a lot about the Kurdish problem in Iran.

Taiwan has always belonged to China? According to the ubiquitous wiki the rule began about 1683 and never really amounted to much. The Japanese took over in 1895 and ruled the place with iron fist cruelty until the end of WW2. China regained control for a brief while from 1945 to 1949 at which time the corrupt government of Chiang Kai-shek fled to Formosa after losing in the civil war. From then till now Taiwan has been a free-standing nation, though progressively sold out by the rest of the world so as to better suck up to Mainland China.

Personally, I don't give a hoot what the UN or the "majority of nations" say about the situation. Taiwan is a nation until either they decide otherwise or they're successfully invaded by China. If war comes I'll be rooting for the little guy. What happened after the recovery of Hong Kong demonstrates the value of China's promises, IMO. Supposing Russia successfully bribes or intimidates a "majority" of the rest of the world, are they entitled to get Finland back? I don't think so.

A very large minority want to reunify now, and they have a political party that articulates that policy.

I wasn't able to find that large minority you spoke of, but instead found a small party equivalent to US 'libertarians'. I'll grant that a subversive minority represents a huge security problem for Taiwan.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Jun 4 2019 22:08 utc | 140

@ Zachary Smith 140
Taiwan has been a free-standing nation
Again, you're wrong. Taiwan has not sought international recognition as a nation, and has generally not received it. President Nixon nailed that issue when he recognized Beijing.

Joint Communique of the United States of America and the People's Republic of China (Shanghai Communique)
February 28, 1972
The United States acknowledges that all Chinese on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China and that Taiwan is a part of China. The United States Government does not challenge that position.

So all of your "don't give a hoot" musings are your mistaken ideas only and have no basis in fact. It's just Taiwan is a nation because you say so despite the facts. So you're demonstrating the value of blogging, with its built-in BS filter for mistaken musings.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 4 2019 22:25 utc | 141

@ d | Jun 4, 2019 6:04:30 PM #139

The Chinese people have not forgotten.

Nor should they! I know only a little about that unending horror story, and imagine that if I did learn more I'd be even more horrified.

The problem as I see it is the prospect of a "rebound" effect. A brutalized people somehow break away from their oppressors, and then go on to become monsters in their own right. The creation and conduct of the apartheid Jewish state is a prime example. They learned well the lessons taught by both the Brits and the Nazis, and have worked hard to improve on techniques for even slicker murders and thefts and intimidation.

Just because China underwent a century or more of hell doesn't entitle them to mimic the Zionists. If anyone cares to defend their current activities in the far-west provinces I'll watching the ducking and weaving that'll be required. They've not been saintly figures in Tibet, either.

Chinese behavior regarding the "9-dash" line of the China Sea has been incredibly bad. It's simply brute-force grab of territory. For people who chant that the Chinese have no Imperial ambitions, that ought to be a problem.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Jun 4 2019 22:25 utc | 142

@ Don Bacon | Jun 4, 2019 6:25:29 PM #141

So all of your "don't give a hoot" musings are your mistaken ideas only and have no basis in fact. It's just Taiwan is a nation because you say so despite the facts.

So the clueless Zachary Smith is peddling BS with no basis in fact! It's kind of amazing how the entire world was smoking the same dope sometime in the past.

The Republic of China (ROC) was a charter member of the United Nations and one of five permanent members of the Security Council until 1971. The ROC joined the United Nations as a founding member on 24 October 1945.

Charter Member
Security Council

All fantasy, that. The UN was specifically designed to be a tool of the US, and when the US of A decided to backstab Taiwan, it happened.

Allowing China to enter the UN was fine. So was giving that nation the Security Council seat. Ejecting Taiwan from the UN was a betrayal of the first order - all because Nixon and the corporate powers behind him decided it was time to rehabilitate Communist China and lay the groundwork for dismantling the US Industrial Capabilities. What was that old proverb? It was something on the line of "money talks, and bullshit walks." Lots and LOTS of money could be made by exporting US jobs to cheap-labor China. Besides all that, there was the prospect of enlisting the Chinese as major counter to the USSR. Reagan's exports of US military technology to China were a very big deal, though it's no longer easy to find much about the subject in the Corporate Media.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Jun 4 2019 22:46 utc | 143

@ Zachary Smith who wrote
Besides all that, there was the prospect of enlisting the Chinese as major counter to the USSR.
Your discussion with Don Bacon is interesting and educational for many I am sure.

Let me add my perspective which is that the opening to China by puppet Nixon was an early attempt to instantiate (private finance) empire in China.....and it almost worked as you can read over on the Tiananmen thread.

But empire has, so far, been unable to create the seed of private finance securely within China while its operating mode outside of China is failing from overuse.


What a stupid way to have an intelligent discussion about the human social contracts around the world. On one side you have China who have spent the last 70 years in reformation of their society and on the other hand you have the painting itself into a corner, God of Mammon, top down and been this way for centuries and you just need more faith society. But the contrast is never discussed in a cultural anthropological manner where the distinctions can be seen clearly....wonder why that is?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 5 2019 1:51 utc | 144

Zionist Trump put down Jeremy Corbyn today while yesterday he had only good things to say about bozo BoJo. Okay so now the Brits know they should vote for Corbyn in droves.

Posted by: Circe | Jun 5 2019 3:38 utc | 145

@ ZS 143
Perhaps you missed it, but there was a revolution in China and a new government was instituted, a real government in Beijing not like the fake one in Taipei.
That Taipei government for awhile had a legislature comprised of emigre representatives from China provinces. Of course that can't be done any longer. But you still want to recognize Taipei as a national capital of---
>China? No, that's silly, that "Republic of China (ROC)." . . .okay we'll go with..
>Taiwan? No, the government in Taipei has stuck with the ROC fanatasy and has never declared its independence. Never declared! And yet you want to recognize something that they haven't even declared.

In fact if Taipei/Taiwan ever declared their independence there would instantly be a state of war. Taiwan knows it and China knows it, which is one reason it hasn't been done.

So your fantasy of Taiwan as a country has zero basis even by the people who live there. Drop it. Revolution in the British colonies, new government called the USA. Revolution in China, new government is the PRC. Those are facts. It's also a fact that the UK has no claims on the US government, and ROC has no valid claims on the PRC. . . . Losers. It doesn't matter what organizations they belonged to, it's over. The UK and the ROC are losers in that regard. Get over it.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 5 2019 3:52 utc | 146

psychohistorian @144--

IMO, the recent Conference on Dialogue of Asian Civilizations was an attempt to begin a discussion about such distinctions. Last century, there was an annual East-West Conference sponsored by the East-West Center (a Cold War institution founded by Congress at the instigation of Senator LB Johnson in 1960) that happened over two summer weeks at the University of Hawaii Manoa campus where the Center's located. The conferences were big news in Hawaii, which I know of since I lived there during the 80s and 90s. There's even a special Asia specific library at UH Manoa providing information unavailable on the Mainland. My point is there was once a time when a semblance of an attempt was made to discuss such distinctions. But the Center's funding was cut during Clinton's reign and the conferences discontinued. China's attempt was well received, and I hope it becomes an annual event.

Sinophobes often project just as much as Russophobes and are easy to spot. China has existed within a diverse multicultural mix for over 5,000 years and understands cultural nuances. Its fundamental philosophy for interacting with its neighbors hasn't changed much in several thousand years. One of the points of friction between Mao, Zhou Enlai and Stalin was the latter's insistence that the philosophy of Communism be exported to other nations whereas Mao and Zhou refused because they knew the Russian form was incompatible with what would become the Chinese form and would thus be incompatible elsewhere and a waste of effort likely to cause unwanted friction, which was already occurring between the CCP and USSR prior to WW2. Asian practice is as different from Western practice as night differs from day when it comes to cultural awareness and respect of differences.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 5 2019 3:56 utc | 147

@ karlof
Asian practice is as different from Western practice as night differs from day when it comes to cultural awareness and respect of differences.
Or why they never became like us, as the US hoped.
cultural differences -- east vs. west -- here
Blue –> Westerner and Red –> Asian.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 5 2019 4:13 utc | 148

Not that it matters much, but two years of my army career was spent in Taipei as an advisor to the ROC army. So I know a little bit about the situation.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jun 5 2019 4:19 utc | 149

@145 circe... i agree with you.. if the folks there have any clue, what you say is very true!

Posted by: james | Jun 5 2019 5:56 utc | 150

The legislation adds “improper interference in a US election” to the existing list of immigration law violations, banning all who are deemed guilty from obtaining a US visa or threatening deportation from the country, among other things
Posted by: Arioch | Jun 4, 2019 2:27:48 PM | 129

Is that to make sure they can prevent those accused by Criminal-Mueller from coming to the US to defend themselves in court against his fabricated accusations? They have a big problem with revealing the "evidence" behind the accusations to those pesky Russians.

Posted by: BM | Jun 5 2019 6:21 utc | 151

It is interesting reading Sinophobe comments. It is so cute how they seem to think nobody else can tell that they have a disorder. You get comments like "They've not been saintly figures in Tibet..." which indicate that the individuals in question have no firsthand knowledge to work from (they've not traveled very much) and they are relying upon the same gang that said Iraq had WMDs to inform their opinions about issue they are otherwise ignorant of.

Honestly, folks, if what you know about issues in the world comes from the BBC or the New York Langley Times and the media choruses that surround them then you really need to come to grips with the reality that what you know about the world is less than nothing. In other words, what you think you know for sure about the world is actually a barrier to your understanding of and coping with reality. For instance, people who know literally nothing about China will be better informed about China than anyone who informs their opinion about China from corporate mass McMedia.

In fact the Chinese have been saintly figures in Tibet. The British and Americans have genocided indigenous populations everywhere they have gone, but the Chinese have not. Westerners who believe that the Chinese have, or intend to at some point, committed genocide are just projecting their own violently psychotic tendencies onto others who do not share those tendencies.

Stop assuming that your society's cultural cancer is normal, folks, and stop projecting it onto healthy people. They are not like you, and for humanity's sake that is a good thing.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 5 2019 11:26 utc | 152

A 600kph Maglev between Beijing and Shanghai will be much faster than by jet in reality, after taking airport congestion and pesky check-in/out procedures which takes at least an hour to clear.

Posted by: JW | Jun 5 2019 13:20 utc | 153

As for the discussion of Taiwan and weird attempts to compare it with Iran, it is important to keep in mind that Taiwanese people ARE Chinese. Iran's opponents are peoples who are ethnically, culturally, and linguistically distinct from themselves. Iran has a distinct national history that goes back many centuries. Taiwan is just an island that has been dominated by a number of foreign aggressors; first the British, then the Japanese, and now the Americans; but through all of that the island has remained predominantly Chinese. If there were war between Taiwan and the mainland then it would be Chinese vs Chinese, and neither side wants that.

Furthermore, if China wanted to overrun Taiwan militarily they could do so in a matter of a few days since Taiwan has little strategic depth. To complicate that even more, Taiwanese people, youth in particular, are increasingly seeing through the western media-manufactured chimera of "Freedom™" and don't really see it as something worth fighting for. Decades ago they wanted to become like they imagined America to be from watching TV shows like Dallas and Baywatch, but the heady days of Kennedy and Apollo are now long gone and it is becoming painfully obvious that they will never return. The noble superhero they used to worship has degenerated into a mean, violent, petty ignoramus.

Meanwhile mainland China has picked themselves up after a century of capitalist imperialism's boot on their face and are building a respectable society rooted in Chinese culture... a culture that the residents of Taiwan share. The Chinese on Taiwan can look at America, which cannot maintain infrastructure built in the previous century much less build anything new, then turn around and look at China that is undergoing an almost magical transformation in the span of a few short years. Looking back at America the Taiwan Chinese see a place where the students they send to presumably learn from the best are assaulted and murdered by criminals, and are discriminated against by loud and ignorant primitives. Turning again to look at China they see a place with super modern cities where those kids can walk about at any hour of the night without fear of being even slightly inconvenienced.

From where Taiwan sits it is easy for them to see that the United States is in steep decline, and there is no force in American society capable of turning that decline around. They can also see that mainland China is ascendant and is heading in a direction that they like. While China of a half century ago was something that the Taiwan Chinese were ashamed to be associated with and that they would disavow any connection to, China today makes them increasingly proud to be Chinese. If you mistakenly referred to someone from Taiwan as "Chinese" a quarter century ago they would set you straight. Today they don't mind that "error" so much. This is an ongoing process and it is obvious where it will eventually lead, such as high speed rail tunnels under the Taiwan Straight tying the island to the mainland and customs-free travel between the mainland and the island.

These factors have resulted in the failure of Taiwan's efforts to eliminate military conscription and transition to a professional volunteer military. Fighting China is simply not something that young Taiwan Chinese see as worthwhile. Getting kids in Taiwan to commit their lives to defending their place in a dying empire is a tough sell.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 5 2019 14:14 utc | 154

JW @153 said: "A 600kph Maglev between Beijing and Shanghai will be much faster than by jet in reality..."

This is true. People who have never taken high speed rail (much less maglev) have difficulty understanding the differences in these modes of travel.

1. Air travel: Buy your tickets days or months in advance.
Rail travel: Buy your ticket from a kiosk five minutes before boarding the train.

2. Air travel: Unless you are unfortunate enough to live next to an airport (they are noisy and unpleasant neighbors) you have minimum half hour of travel just to get to the point of departure, and more typically an hour or more.
Rail travel: Train stations are in city centers and are usually the hub for multiple transportation networks.

3. Air travel: Ridiculous security. Hope you are not in a hurry.
Rail travel: No ridiculous security. Walking from the ticket kiosk to the platform and boarding your train in a minute or less is entirely possible.

4. Air travel: Half hour minimum from the time boarding starts to the time the wheels leave the ground. Usually more like an hour as people slowly mosey to their seats, put away their carry-on, get settled in their seats and out of the aisle... and then there is taxiing around the airport getting into line to take off and waiting for clearance, etc.
Rail travel: Train stops. Multiple doors open. Travelers embark and disembark. Thirty seconds or less from the time the doors open the train is rolling again. Travelers find their seats while the train is in motion.

5. Air travel: Cramped seats and diseased air. Ear aches and bawling babies (their ears ache too but they don't know how to equalize the pressure in their inner ear).
Rail travel: Spacious seats. Babies sleep like... well, babies.

6. Air travel: Wheels touch the ground at the destination airport and you are often still dozens of minutes from being able to get off the plane. Once the jet bridge is in place and the door opens you are still a significant portion of an hour from escape due to standing around waiting for others to move. Then if you have checked baggage to claim, God help you.
Rail travel: Train stops and literally in seconds you are in city center flagging down a taxi for the short hop to wherever you need to be.

Air travel is unending misery.

Rail travel is pure joy. It is the hallmark of true modern civilization.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 5 2019 14:57 utc | 155

@154 British domination? The Dutch East India Company were ahead of the game in Taiwan. They even named it after an aboriginal tribe the Tayouan.

Posted by: dh | Jun 5 2019 15:31 utc | 156

In Gaza, the wounds of thousands of Palestinians shot by Israeli soldiers are infected with antibiotic-resistant bacteria, and the blockade prevents necessary medical supplies from reaching them.

I wonder what tests of the bullets used in the Gaza sniper murders would show. Hollow points typically have a filler in the empty cavity. Adding some very specialized germs to that material would be a piece of cake, and it would most certainly contaminate the wound.

God isn't very picky about choosing His Most Favorite People, is He?


Posted by: Zachary Smith | Jun 5 2019 15:39 utc | 157

‘NYT’ coverage of Trump peace plan news quotes 5 pro-Israel voices, 0 Palestinians

It's my guess the rabid supporters of the apartheid Jewish state are unhappy because the ratio wasn't at least 10 to 0.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Jun 5 2019 15:59 utc | 158

William Gruff @154--

General Stillwell's assessment of Chaing Kai-shek and the Kuomintang (KMT) was that of a Gangster and Mafia-like governing apparatus. His personal views were ordered suppressed after he was relieved of Command of the CBI theatre at Chaing's insistence but resurfaced in a Business Week article in 1944: "The Kuomintang government representing the interest of the warlord, banker, landlord hierarchy [and its] feudalistic and authoritarian methods" might hold upon war's conclusion. The evidence led Kolko in Politics of War to conclude, "The United States could deal more easily with a government if they could buy it, and that was their only hope" with regards to China. Further on Kolko writes:

"Never in the history of this century was the ruling group of a nation so starkly corrupt as was the Kuomintang, and this fact is the key to analyzing the success of the revolution. For Chaing was a gangster, as indeed Stillwell perceived, and China and its misery was the racket of his clique and the political rivals he kept at bay with his bribes and benefactions." (228-229)

And there's oh so much more. In so many ways, the revelatory Politics of War is essential to read for anyone wanting to know about the Cold War's origin and the internal workings and mindset of the USA during WW2. Chaing decamped to Formosa and continued to have the backing and blessing of the Anti-Communist West despite his utter ugliness, very much like Batista and so many others under the Eagle's feathers. The CCP/PLA could have easily defeated the remains of the KMT's army but had no way to invade Formosa, so Mao and Zhou decided to let them sit until the time came for reunification.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 5 2019 17:44 utc | 159

karlof1 @159

I have a number of acquaintances and even some good friends (yes, even one such as myself can have friends!) in Taiwan, but even the most anticommunist among them have nothing good to say about the KMT. Some of the stories they told about what happened on Taiwan under KMT dictatorship are decidedly unpleasant. Though I count as an academic, I am confident that I would have preferred mainland China during the Cultural Revolution than Taiwan. Referring to Chaing Kai-shek and his crew as gangsters sounds quite appropriate.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 5 2019 18:17 utc | 160

William Gruff @160--

Throughout government docs and personal papers of those involved, it almost beggars belief that such a corrupt, mafia-like group would be preferred to run any nation despite its known gross criminality. Discussions about approving loans to KMT are filled with apprehension as to whether the funds would actually be used to fight the Japanese or line KMT pockets--and these date from before Pearl Harbor. Stillwell knew and he told Marshall, who also found out for himself during a 1947 visit. The military men grudgingly acknowledged that the only reason the Japanese didn't overrun more of China than they did was due to the PLA and the partisans affiliated with it; the KMT only defended areas where it could make money for itself and never had any conception of defending China as a whole. Of course, 70 years ago there were hysterical cries demanding to know Who Lost China? The answer's simple, KMT gangsterism, but that couldn't be said in 1949.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 5 2019 18:48 utc | 161

Some are finally catching on to what I've been saying for several weeks: Are Establishment Democrats Protecting Trump?

However, AFAIK no one has yet offered an answer as to WHY establishment Democrats might be showing leniency toward Trump. Establishment Democrats say it would be a political mistake to impeach and/or cite the low chance for a conviction in the Senate. IMO these are excuses.

As I've written here many times, IMO the 2016 election was a set-up to elect an MAGA nationalist to meet the challenge from Russia and China. I also believe that the new McCarthyism was part of the plan as was setting up Wikileaks/Assange and Michael Flynn.

Memory-holed: Trump helped Pelosi to win Speaker of the House when he invited her and Schumer to talk with him in the oval office about his plans for a wall.

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Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 5 2019 21:20 utc | 162

@ William Gruff | Jun 5, 2019 7:26:20 AM #152

In fact the Chinese have been saintly figures in Tibet. The British and Americans have genocided indigenous populations everywhere they have gone, but the Chinese have not.

Not committing mass murder makes you a saint. That's a new one to me.

So let me guess - reports of the treatment of the Uyghurs is a total fabrication by the evil West. And if not that, it's positively good for them to live in razor-wire concentration camps while they get "re-educated".

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Jun 6 2019 4:10 utc | 163

@ Zachary Smith who wrote
So let me guess - reports of the treatment of the Uyghurs is a total fabrication by the evil West.
How long have you been at the MoA bar? Do you read the links about how China has as I recall 350+ registered religions. It is also my understanding that China is basically saying to all those religions that you are fine as long as you support the other words........a totally secular government....and that is what the Uyghurs are being told in these facilities.....and yes, the West is going to lie through their teeth about the details.

The Western monotheistic faith breathers are not going to like going back to the original intention of separation of church and state that the US had but when the motto got changed to In God We Trust to fight the dirty commies in the early 1950's it became a slippery slope of infestation.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 6 2019 5:09 utc | 164

Zachary Smith @163 sez: "...reports of the treatment of the Uyghurs is a total fabrication by the evil West..."

Absolutely! Again, it is the same crew claiming that as told you Iraq had WMD programs, so why do you believe it? Are you really that gullible?

While your elected representatives oversee the slaughter of school children in Yemen, you downplay the significance of genocide? Where are your priorities?

But the Chinese do indeed do more than not commit genocide, which if that was all they would still be better human beings and a better civilization than you and yours.

Before 1950 Tibet had:

0 miles of paved roads
0 power plants
0 miles of electrical wiring
0 miles of municipal water pipelines
0 hospitals
0 water treatment plants
0 primary schools
0 secondary schools
0 universities
0 community colleges
0 miles of railroad
0 modern jobs

Tibet did have slavery before 1950, so I guess you could argue they had that going for them.

Instead of regurgitating nonsense fed to you by the same people who convinced you that Iraq had WMD programs and needed "humanitarian" bombing, why not just go visit Tibet and see for yourself what has changed there from the rather dismal list I provided above? It is actually a really easy place to visit.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 6 2019 11:17 utc | 165

Follow up to my comment @162

Pelosi to Dem Leaders:

"I don’t want to see him impeached, I want to see him in prison."

LOL. Sure she does./sarc

Here's the logic:

1) Dems refrain from impeaching Trump

2) * the magic happens *

3) Trump goes to jail.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 6 2019 12:54 utc | 166

“Our conundrum, which is to keep the opposition united, has proven devilishly difficult,” Pompeo said in an audio recording obtained by The Washington Post. “The moment Maduro leaves, everybody’s going to raise their hands and [say], ‘Take me, I’m the next president of Venezuela.’...
...He said the difficulty of uniting the opposition has not only played out in “public for these last months, but since the day I became CIA director, this was something that was at the center of what President Trump was trying to do.”...
...The leaked audio comes from a surprisingly frank meeting Pompeo held with Jewish leaders last week in which he also delivered a blunt assessment of the Trump administration’s long-awaited Middle East peace plan."

Taking out enemies of Israel plus controlling China's oil supply is not going so well.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Jun 6 2019 16:32 utc | 167

@ 166 jackrabbit... pelosi is another reason the dems are going nowhere fast... does she want to see bush 2 / cheney / rumsfield in jail for the war on iraq and countless people who lost their lives for it? of course not... her and obama wanted to move on and weren't interested in accountability..

the only answer is a non violent colour revolution in the usa where the people demand something other then republican and democrat parties... otherwise it is just biz as usual..

@167 peter au... last line - good!

Posted by: james | Jun 6 2019 17:13 utc | 168

Despite loads of digital ink spilled at MoA and elsewhere about Trump, USA politics and the Empire, I think I've offered the ONLY non-MSM theory of the new Cold War that accurately encompasses all of what we've seen from the Trump Administration/US Deep State.

Note: Now conveniently available via MoA's re-vamped 'search' functionality.

Evidence confirming my theory appears every few weeks. Examples that Trump is not an anti-interventionist/isolationist (far from it!) now abound AND that Deep State revulsion toward Trump is a propaganda tool (always was):

> High hopes after Trump Summit with North Korea are dashed months later as Trump Administration refuses to follow-thru;

> August 2018: US states that they will bomb Syria if SAA attacks Idlib (counter to MSM/Trump propaganda);

> December 2018 Trump announces an immediate 'pull out' from Syria - only to quietly rescind that weeks later;

> February 2019 Trump announces support for Juan Guaido as Interim President of Venezuela. Several dozen countries - even one's that hate Trump! - follow suit.

> April 2019: Pelosi and Hillary talk down impeachment after Mueller Report;

And now this:
Mueller Caught In Another Deception; Key 'Russia Link' Exposed As Informant For US, Ukraine:
A Ukrainian businessman painted in the Mueller report as a sinister link to Russia was actually a "sensitive" intelligence source for the US State Department who informed on Ukrainian and Russian issues - and passed messages between the Washington and Kiev, according to The Hill's John Solomon.

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The possibility of the Deep State exerting more direct control to pursue their aspirations for global hegemony are troubling but few care to think of such things. So much more entertaining to follow the Trump-Deep State kayfabe.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 8 2019 1:59 utc | 169

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