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June 05, 2019

How Others See MoA: "Politically Neutral And Most Distant To Power"

The Swiss Propaganda Research group is an independent nonprofit organization investigating geopolitical propaganda in international media. Its major articles are available in English language.

One of its recent projects is the Media Navigator. It classifies more than 70 English language news outlets based on their political stance and their relationship to power.

The relationship to power on the X-axis varies for 'Close' to 'Distant', the political stance from 'Conservative' to 'Liberal'.


According to their judgment Moon of Alabama is neutral in its political stance while being most distant to power.

Your host is quite happy with this classification. It reflects our effort to base our analysis on facts and logic, and not on feelings or a personal agenda.


If you believe that a neutral medium with due distance to power is of value, please consider to contribute to this effort.

You send cash or a check to keep Moon of Alabama going. You can also use a bank-wire transfer. Send email to MoonofA @ for the necessary details. To use a credit card or other means please donate through the PayPal button below.

Thanks you very much.

Posted by b on June 5, 2019 at 7:11 UTC | Permalink


b, first of all, congrats to have MoA on the list. You have done and still do a superb job to all in this planet. Greetings from Brazil.

Posted by: Canthama | Jun 5 2019 10:40 utc | 1

Secondly, they nailed in the head MoA positioning. Congrats my friend.

Posted by: Canthama | Jun 5 2019 10:41 utc | 2

The Swiss Propaganda Research group is an independent nonprofit organization

"independent": So they say?
"nonprofit": So they pay no taxes?

Posted by: Den Haag | Jun 5 2019 10:49 utc | 3

Periferically, at first glance, somehow I keep seeing the compass at the center as the NATO four pointed star.
But that is a mistake.
The NATO star would be outside the square, to the lower left, tugging and tugging and tugging.

Posted by: bjd | Jun 5 2019 10:53 utc | 4

What is missing in this diagram is the important media-conglomerate called 'Hollywood'.
And it's a big omission, since it alone may have more prop power than all the displayed media combined.
The military understands that.

Posted by: bjd | Jun 5 2019 11:00 utc | 5

Congratulations to MoA - vindication if any were needed of a consistent and responsible policy and that rare commodity, genuine professionalism. Well done.

Posted by: Loftwork | Jun 5 2019 11:08 utc | 6

I would be happy to support the great work that the Moon of Alabama does. I have no desire to give PayPal a lot of information they do not need. If you can arrange another way for me to support your work I would appreciate it.

Posted by: jrkrideau | Jun 5 2019 11:16 utc | 7

I grant you your Swiss honors. Seriously. Not close to power? Well deserved. Not least I am fascinated by all the energy you put into this after all these years. congrats.

Posted by: joanna | Jun 5 2019 11:19 utc | 8

Nice rating and great work!

Posted by: financial matters | Jun 5 2019 11:36 utc | 9

I agree with poster above above about another forum of payment. I do not use PayPal as they also most likely take your information and sell it to the highest bidder. I would suggest creating a bit coin wallet where we can deposit contributions. Most secure private form of payment out there.

Posted by: Comandane | Jun 5 2019 12:33 utc | 10

From our research site "A Closer Look On Syria", how to contribute:

Use primary sources

ACLOS, Wikipedia and Wikispooks differ by their epistemological principles:

  • Wikipedia uses "reliable secondary sources" and rejects primary sources. Evidence has shown that on geopolitical issues, "reliability" in Wikipedia terms correlates inversely with the facts and what primary sources tell. This can be objectively demonstrated by observing the asymptotic divergence of narratives by two geopolitical camps from each other and from primary sources – they never converge!

  • Wikispooks accepts secondary sources, but ranks them by their distance to "power." The closer they are to "Powers that Be", the more unreliable they are considered to be.

  • ACLOS relies only on primary sources. Secondary sources are utilized only as much as primary source material can be extracted from them – or where the information provided is non-controversial.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Jun 5 2019 14:19 utc | 11

Yeah, you are getting lots more attention, now comes the tricky part, not letting it screw up the site.

I find the distance from power in that graphic is a lot more useful than the "political stance",

Posted by: Bemildred | Jun 5 2019 14:28 utc | 12

@jrkrideau If you can arrange another way for me to support your work I would appreciate it.

As written above: "You send cash or a check to keep Moon of Alabama going. You can also use a bank-wire transfer. Send email to MoonofA @ for the necessary details."

@Comandan I would suggest creating a bit coin wallet where we can deposit contributions. Most secure private form of payment out there.

If you want the attention of all secret services in the world, use bit coin. If you want to lose all your money when some virtual "bank" gets robbed, use bitcoin. ...

The above are two of many more reasons why I will never use it.

Posted by: b | Jun 5 2019 14:41 utc | 13

I want to send you a check. What's your address?

Posted by: michael egan | Jun 5 2019 14:53 utc | 14

In Australia "free press" means the police are free to seize complete control of the press via a search warrant. This is from John Lyons, Executive Editor ABC News & ABC Head of Investigative Journalism:

"AFP: I’m still staggered by the power of this warrant. It allows the AFP to “add, copy, delete or alter” material in the ABC’s computers. All Australians, please think about that: as of this moment, the AFP has the power to delete material in the ABC’s computers. Australia 2019."

What does Swiss Propaganda Research say about government broadcasters seized by police?

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jun 5 2019 15:33 utc | 15

The Twitter thread I posted is interesting. It describes the raid step by step, complete with photos. Everything is so civilized and officious! Australians should be proud! Not like in America where the police raids are at 4 AM and led by a phalanx of black-clad paramilitaries all primed to shoot anything that moves, especially family pets.

Posted by: Trailer Trash | Jun 5 2019 15:48 utc | 16


Posted by: mauisurfer | Jun 5 2019 15:50 utc | 17

I come here for a good argument. A lot of Putenversteher here and people who write AmeriKa with a K but otherwise a tolerable lot.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Jun 5 2019 15:53 utc | 18

Well done b, and greetings from Scandinavia, and I do support you with what I can afford, but I need to feed my race horses too ;)
You are doing a tremendous (D.Trump has just ruined that word for me) good job, please keep it up, I am currently unemployed and being 62 , that is a hard one,but we can send a few § extra if you are in dire need.
Do nont despair :)
Greetings from The Little Monkey

Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Jun 5 2019 16:06 utc | 19

The Swiss Org. that classed MoA, imho fairly as far as such triage goes, good call and endorsement, b yes!

... publishes this flow-chart on its site, title:

The Logic of US Foreign Policy

which might be fun to discuss.

Posted by: Noirette | Jun 5 2019 16:46 utc | 20

funds sent... vielen Dank!

Posted by: xLemming | Jun 5 2019 17:13 utc | 21

@ 18

Rb: I come here for a good argument

Receptionist: I see. Well, do you want to have the full argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?

Rb: Well, what would be the cost?

Receptionist: Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.

Rb: Well, I think it's probably best if I start with the one and then see how it goes from there, okay?

Receptionist: Fine. I'll see who's free at the moment.


Receptionist: Mr. Donkeytale's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory. Ahh yes, Try Mr. Zanon; room 12...

h/t montyPython The Argument Sketch

Posted by: xLemming | Jun 5 2019 17:22 utc | 22

[This comment was totally off topic and therefore deleted - b.]

Posted by: mauisurfer | Jun 5 2019 17:29 utc | 23

[This comment was totally off topic and therefore deleted - b.]

[@mauisurfer - you were recently released from purgatory to be again able to comment on MoA. As you are obviously unable to use that privilege in a decent manner you are now again banned. - b.]

Posted by: mauisurfer | Jun 5 2019 17:39 utc | 24

Congrats on the ranking. Interesting that VICE is close to ‘liberal’. Perhaps they are liberal in their cheeky sensational stories about drugs and sex but for the most part they produce Neo-con propaganda when they talk about world affairs. They’ve produced very base propaganda pieces on Syria, Venezuela and Serbia that mirror the false talking points of the Atlantic Council or NYT. They have Murdoch as an investor and are primarily owned by the Disney company. I guess “liberal” in the sense of MSNBC.

Posted by: Jason | Jun 5 2019 18:28 utc | 25

If you want the attention of all secret services in the world, use bit coin. If you want to lose all your money when some virtual "bank" gets robbed, use bitcoin. ...

The above are two of many more reasons why I will never use it.

I think you misunderstood I did not mean to suggest a creation of a bitcoin wallet in the many bitcoin brokers (such as coinbase) No. I meant setting up your own personal bitcoin wallet which you own yourself. All anyone would need is your bitcoin address to send you coins and it would perfectly safe and private. No one can hack this unless you purposely give away your private key. On top of this you can easily transfer coins from your "public" wallet to an even more private wallet for added security. There is absolutely no risk of "losing all your money when some virtual bank gets hacked" because there is no bank, only you own that wallet. sure there is a risk if you lose your private key but those are the risks of bitcoin.

Anyway don't mean to diverge from the subject. Just clarifying that bitcoin is a very safe and clean way to obtain donations, I believe. I don't see why not have it as additional option. Regards...

Posted by: Comandante | Jun 5 2019 20:42 utc | 26

Apologies. Just one more clarification on bitcoin. Using bitcoin does not draw attention of all security services unless you are a suspected terrorist or a big time criminal wanted by FBI, etc. Although it is possible for these services to monitor your wallet's activities, the effort it would take is not worth it unless you are a huge wanted criminal. It would be easier for them to tap your phone or even home.

Posted by: Comandante | Jun 5 2019 20:45 utc | 27

@11 Petri Krohn, I'm happily surprised to see Wikipedia's reliance on reliable sources being pointed out. It helps(at least in my view) Wikipedia to become 'mainstreamed', assuming the mainstream hierarchy of what is a worthwhile source and what should be avoided. In the context of the war-on-fake-news I expect this to also lead to a purging of dissident voices, at least on subjects where players with clout are involved. Censorship at wikipedia level.

I'm hedging on how strong the effect is though.

Posted by: tuyzentfloot | Jun 5 2019 20:57 utc | 28

Congrats on the award!

However, if you want to retain the "Most Distant to Power" distinction, you might want to reconsider your positions regarding USA politics like:

>> Support of Democratic Party candidates like sheepdog Sanders;

>> The belief that Trump's advisors act against his wishes.

I find that Europeans often have a warped view of the American politics and the American Left. They assume that the American Left operates somewhat like the European Left. But entrenched money-based politics coupled with extreme inequality and an Empire-First (despite Trump's rhetoric) orientation means that all sorts of games are played to keep the establishment in control. IMO the Presidency is even more undemocratic as the Deep State will NOT ALLOW the possibility that anyone that they do not approve is elected to the office.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 5 2019 21:51 utc | 29

With luck, b and MoA won't succumb to what's being called The Assange Effect that's already sweeping his native Australia as Caitlin Johnstone relates:

"If you think about it, it would have been far less disturbing than the alternative if there were a connection between the two raids, because the alternative is vastly more sinister: that the Australian government’s attitude toward the free press has changed. And that it has perhaps done so, as Australia has been doing for decades, in alignment with the behavior of the rest of the US-centralized empire....

"So we’re seeing a pattern already. You can choose to ignore it or dismiss it with a pleasant story, or you can acknowledge that we appear to be in the midst of a rapidly escalating shutdown of the free press in the western world."

This amounts to a threat not just to journalists and publishers, but to the overall public. Get prepared and take appropriate measures.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 5 2019 22:26 utc | 30

MoA and b ain't neutral. Both the blog & it's author are decidedly anti-American and lean left in their stance. There's nothing wrong with an anti-American & left wing position but to claim neutrality and objectivity is ridiculous.

Posted by: Sam Ragatti | Jun 5 2019 22:31 utc | 31

Sam Ragatti @33--

If one professes to be for the rule of law, then one must be anti-American, as it's the #1 International Outlaw. And to proclaim such doesn't come from bias but from objectivity. And such a stance needn't be Left or Right. Law is supposed to be blind to those considerations.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 5 2019 23:02 utc | 32

Sam Ragatti @33: the blog & it;s auther anti-American & left wing

I think you'll have to explain what you mean by that. Anti-Empire and Anti-establishment isn't anti-American except to those who are pro-Empire and pro-establishment.

To oppose illegal actions like:

- rendition and torture;

- conspiring with other countries to field a Jihadi proxy army (against Syria);

- bombing a country (Libya) without UN or Congressional authorization;

- the declaration of an unknown to be interim President of a major country (Venezeula);

is un-American?

And corruption, the drift toward authoritarianism and neo-Feudalism is only a concern for the Left? I think many true conservatives and libertarians would disagree.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jun 5 2019 23:05 utc | 33

Sam Ragatti @33

Interesting. b seems to have a mild Trump fetish and almost always portrays him as a harmless little kid being pushed around by Bolton and he had at least one comment that Trump is fighting the Deep State. I have the impression that he has started to smell the coffee (or something else) re: Trump's foreign policy and "fighting the Deep State" it ain't, unless the Deep State consists of Assad, Maduro and Khameini.

Posted by: Schmoe | Jun 5 2019 23:27 utc | 34

Agree that being anti imperialist and anti capitalist does not mean you are anti American.

The American people are suffering right now while the American elite or olygarchy are becoming more and more powerful. That is not the best thing for Americans its actually the opposite.

Whoever is anti imperialism is actually pro american

Posted by: Comandante | Jun 6 2019 4:00 utc | 35

@33 sam quote...."...neutrality and objectivity is ridiculous." let me help you out and glad you said that part as it applies in spades to the usa msm!! please do extend it to all the major msm outlets that are busy brainwashing ordinary folks too.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Jun 6 2019 4:15 utc | 36

congrats b! what an honor!

Posted by: annie | Jun 6 2019 21:15 utc | 37

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