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May 19, 2019

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2019-28

Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:

See also: Rob Slane at The Blogmire - The Sinking Credibility of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons

John Bolton created the crisis by claiming that Iran put some imaginary missiles on a boat. When Trump told him to stop the campaign, at least for now, the imaginary missile had to be removed. The NYT willingly stenographed the "news": U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Removed Missile Threat From Some Boats

I don't expect that Bolton will let the issue go. He will find or create an incident sufficient to convince Trump to go to war with Iran.

My hunch is that China will -in the end- win through the trade war. Others disagree.
Christopher Whalen at the American Conservative: China Has Already Lost the Trade War

Other issues:

The movies Hollywood produced are often telling psychological conflicts as the central story. Each character has a certain fixed attitude and the interacting of the characters create the story. It does not matter if the setting is in antic times or in the far future. In the end there are always the bad and the good guy slamming it out in a fistfight.

The historic Chinese drama which I currently favor are based on sociological storytelling. As they develop the stories form their characters. Their attitudes change over time because the developing exterior circumstances push them into certain directions. Good becomes bad and again good. The persons change because they must, not because the are genetically defined. I find these kind of movies more interesting.

This Scientific American piece about Game of Thrones (of which I have seen only half an episode) touches on the differences.

The Real Reason Fans Hate the Last Season of Game of Thrones
It's not just bad storytelling—it’s because the storytelling style changed from sociological to psychological

Use as open thread ...

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Re: Assange being extradited from Sweden Vs Britain

What is legal in either Sweden or Britain is irrelevant. Both will happily hand Assange over to the CIA regardless of what their own laws require them to do. What is of concern is the reactions of the populations of the countries in question. Swedes won't do anything to defend Assange. Heck, the Swedes won't even defend themselves. The British working class, on the other hand, has been a mite bit restive lately. They might get irritated and become unpredictable if they get the impression that someone whose welfare they are basically responsible for is to be bundled off under their noses to Bloody Gina's dungeons. This is why the forces of evil want Assange in Sweden.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 21 2019 19:49 utc | 201

william gruff - that is a rationale analysis of it.. thanks..

Posted by: james | May 21 2019 19:56 utc | 202

WG @202

Now that makes sense.

Posted by: arby | May 21 2019 20:06 utc | 203

vk #193

Kierkegaard died in 1848. He wrote his books in Danish which guaranteed that they didn't achieve any attention outside Denmark. He was forgotten for 40 years or so until his work was translated into German. Then its reception in Germany exploded. Kafka, Rilke, Wittgenstein, Heidegger and Jaspers belong to his admirers and followers.

For me, coming from the math/physics department, he anticipated the findings of quantum theory: that the subject ist hopelessly entangled with the object; and therefore it's impossible to construct a system of thought (like Hegel did) and declare it reality without taking into account your own individual personality. This is not reality, says Kierkegaard, it's just a system.

Posted by: mk | May 21 2019 20:16 utc | 204

Peter AU 1 @201: Your veiw is that all are unanimous all the time.

Well, no. My view is that they united in certain core beliefs. Chief among these are that USA remain the sole hegemon and that they retain control of the Presidency (which controls the Empire as well as "the bully pulpit" that could be used to cut through the propaganda).

Kissinger's call for MAGA was not guaranted to be accepted but I beleive that it was because it made sense to the Deep State.

The Deep State are just powerful people that have been around for a long time and everyone in the establishment respects: Bushes, Clintons, Mueller, Brennan, McCain would be in that group.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 21 2019 20:41 utc | 205

Trump further boxed-in as Merkel, Macron & Putin agree:

"During the discussion of the situation around the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action on the Iranian nuclear program, the importance of preserving this agreement, which is a key factor in maintaining international stability and security, was noted. Russia, France and Germany reaffirmed their commitment to further mutually beneficial cooperation with Iran in trade and economy.

The world's major nations have all denounced Trump's act of reneging on his nation's commitment to the JCPOA yet he ignores them and continues on his merry way. The Iranians have mede it abundantly clear that until Trump amends his ways he won't ever get "the phone call" he avers he greatly desires. Regime Change and punching a huge hole into BRI/EAEU integration are the clear motives, but no nation aside from Israel is allied with Trump, and Zionistan seems only halfhearted after its election thanks to Chinese pressure related to its BRI potential.

IMO, Trump's checkmated himself as he loses face with any move he makes--even war.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 21 2019 21:02 utc | 206

Gruff @202: ... reactions of the populations of the countries in question.

Yes, but this is only half of the story. The legal framework and mechanics of how extradition and 'temporary surrender' work in UK and Sweden is the other part.

Those that accept or make the case for Assange's extradition to Sweden are ignore ALL the reasons that make it unacceptable, including the bogus accusations that sparked the investigation and Assange's numerous attempts to cooperate with investigators. And they pretend that the choice is either extradition to US or extradition to Sweden when, in fact, there is reason to deny BOTH extraditions.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 21 2019 21:32 utc | 207

Don't lose sight of why the US is out to get Julian Assange (theGuardian, August 2012)
Ecuador is pressing for a deal that offers justice to Assange's accusers – and essential protection for whistleblowers

But why, Assange's critics charge, would he be more likely to be extradited to the US from Sweden than from Britain, Washington's patsy, notorious for its one-sided extradition arrangements. [Answer:] There are specific risks in Sweden – for example, its fast-track "temporary surrender" extradition agreement it has with the US. But the real point is that Assange is in danger of extradition in both countries – which is why Ecuador was right to offer him protection.

The solution is obvious. It's the one that Ecuador is proposing – and that London and Stockholm are resisting. If the Swedish government pledged to block the extradition of Assange to the US for any WikiLeaks-related offence (which it has the power to do) – and Britain agreed not to sanction extradition to a third country once Swedish proceedings are over – then justice could be served. But with loyalty to the US on the line, Assange shouldn't expect to leave the embassy any time soon.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 21 2019 22:11 utc | 208

Jackrabbit @198

Social Justice Warriors and White Nationalists are both creations of, what you would call, the deep state (DS). They are used by the DS, pose no threat to the DS and it would serve no purpose to show them neutralised. Plus no predictive programming aspect.

The parallels between Daenerys and Trump seem fairly obvious to me:

1. Daenerys is the world's most powerful Queen. Trump is the world's most powerful President.

2. Both promised to lead the poor and oppressed and deal with their oppressors.

3. Both have powerful weapons at their command (Dragons/Nuclear Weapons).

4. Both are crazy.

The predictive programming bit is that Kings Landing was subject to an attack by Dragons even though the city had surrendered. The aftermath of the attack shows that Kings Landing was subject to something that looks very much like the aftermath of a nuclear attack (see Japan and descriptions of effect on mini-nukes).

The person responsible for the attack (Daenerys) is killed by the DS (Tyrion & Jon Snow).

Afterwards life goes on as normal.

So you are being prepared for US using nuclear weapons in a war that they start to right a wrong (e.g. with Iran) and, should things go badly (and even if they don't), then the responsibility for the use of such weapons will be heaped onto Trump who will be polished off PDQ and everyone can agree it was the act of a madman.

The purpose of predictive programming is to play out scenarios, prepare the population for an event, or condition the mindset of the population. The last series of GoT was so bad because it was forced to fit a predictive programming message.

(BTW: None of the above has any bearing on your theory; Trump can be in league with the DS and a dupe at the same time.)

This is my last post about GoT (it was crap).

Posted by: ADKC | May 21 2019 23:19 utc | 209

ADKC @210--

Interesting! I haven't watched GoT whatsoever. But in the real situation with Trump, there is no wrong to right regarding Iran other than the malfeasance of the Outlaw US Empire's action regarding JCPOA. It was merely a "bad deal" made by Obama according to Trump, with the world judging Trump to be wrong.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2019 0:28 utc | 210

US Warns Assad Of "Quick Response" After New Chemical Attack Allegation

... it once again it appears the United States is blindly parroting the claims al-Qaeda terrorists.

<> <> <> <> <>

As I warned. Each of the occupations of Syria to the 'Assad must go!' Coalition are strategic and will be defended. Together with economic sanctions, they are meant to be a stranglehold.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 22 2019 0:50 utc | 211

TTL (at SST) just gave a summary of the state of the Idlib battlefront yesterday.

SAA has been successful and are ready for the next phase.

So it's not surprising that we now see this chemical weapons claim. SAA can't be allowed to continue.

Interesting and scary to see what comes next.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 22 2019 1:03 utc | 212

I am curious what Pompous ass said to the Congress Critters today about Iran

I just read a Reuters posting/no link about a poll they did saying that 51% of the American public believes that a war with Iran in going to happen in the next few to build a lie with a poll

In the guts of the posting it did admit that 39% are strongly opposed versus 31% strongly for this war..and 49% opposed

The cost of propaganda for war could buy health care for millions but the God of Mammon must have its profit and social control instead!!!!!

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 22 2019 2:40 utc | 213

Pentagon Declares Victory In Non-War: Iran Forced To Put Attacks "On Hold"

Many of us wrote that war with Iran made no sense; Lebanon or Idlib were more logical targets.

And sure enough, now Idlib heats up (see comment @213).

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 22 2019 2:50 utc | 214

@175 Guerrero

Hey, pal, I specifically said adapting Thucydides was a dream. ;) A dream born during reading it and coinciding with watching the success and technique of HBO's Game of Thrones. But it is a dream.

I share your enthusiasm for the love of that work. It truly does have it all. Pericles' Funeral Oration is probably the greatest eulogy for the unknown soldier and it is no wonder that parallels are consisentently drawn between Pericles' Funeral Oration and Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.

But can you imagine the depth and breadth of knowledge one would have to have at their disposal to a write a competent teleplay based in Ancient Greece and surrounding areas. Knowledge of customs, religions, as much Herodotus as you can ingest, etc. It would be a long haul. Lotsa research.

I do have one! Relative through marriage who is relatives with a well-known actor who has worked on HBO films, netflix shows, and even one of the greatest directors of all time.

I have some experience and knowledge of screenwriting, software to do it on, and know borders, margins of a script, etc.

In any case, I share your enthusiasm. A man can dream can't he? Thucydides deserves to be brought to a larger audience. How does one share email addresses online? I would be happy to have you in mind if I ever do broach the subject in earnest.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 22 2019 3:10 utc | 215

@139 Loftwork

Thanks for that link to "Chan is Missing". Some excellent comments and a snippet from Ebert suggest a gem indeed. Downloading now.

Posted by: Grieved | May 22 2019 3:25 utc | 216

@161 dan

Thank you for the recommendation to read the books. I may be wrong but I think this is the first indication in this thread that they might be better ;)

Turns out there are some ebook downloads on the web freely available, and the paperback set of five books can be had from an online seller for less than $30.

I may never get to read these books - only because I'm disinclined to put a fictional cosmology into my mind at this stage of my life - but I will take your comparison with Tolkien as a sound measure of their worth, sight unseen.

And who knows, a snowbound winter may yet find me by the fire yearning for ancient, entertaining lore.

Many thanks.

Posted by: Grieved | May 22 2019 4:09 utc | 217

I haven't found this quoted from the Craig Murray discussions here - but I haven't followed it closely, so my apologies if I'm repeating others. I found Murray's view on the "why?" of all the hate very compelling.

His concluding paragraph:

There is an interesting parallel with the reaction to the work of Reformation scholars in translating the Bible into vernacular languages and giving the populace direct access to its contents, without the mediating filters of the priestly class. Such developments will always provoke extraordinary venom from those whose position is threatened. I see a historical parallel between Julian Assange and William Tyndale in this respect. It is something worth bearing in mind in trying to understand the depth of the State’s hatred of Julian.

The Missing Step - Craig Murray

It makes great sense to consider the patrician view that regards us little people: heaven forbid that some rebel should print up translated Latin, or give us the straight dope on how the world is stolen from, and in the very words of the thieves themselves, no less.

And I say "stolen from" rather than "controlled" because I don't think the thieves are there yet, and frankly never will get there. Theft will always be theft, and from time to time in the world a slice of daylight will appear, and thieves will go to the gallows.

Alas, it will often be too late to save the noble messengers, bless them.


For what it's worth, I count Murray as one of the messengers.

Posted by: Grieved | May 22 2019 4:27 utc | 218

Below is the (slightly improved) text of a an email that I sent to my MP (elected representative) regarding the latest Douma incident revelations (which I adapted from a post written by Peter Hitchens). As there appears to be very little in the western media about this and that the whole fake chemical attack routine is being re-heated for Idlib then commentators may like to adapt the text below to send to their own elected representative.

"Dear (MP),

As you are no doubt aware, a leaked document, written by one of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) most experienced investigators, shows that it is very likely that gas canisters found at the scene of an alleged poison gas attack in Douma (Syria) were placed (and not dropped from helicopters). The OPCW has now confirmed that this report is true. This means that the decision of UK, France and the USA made in April 2018 to bomb Syria was based on a falsehood.

The OPCW’s official report on the Douma incident made no mention of this finding. This makes it appear that the OPCW was placed under pressure, or hijacked, by (western) political forces which were seeking justification for military intervention in Syria.

The impression is left that the Douma incident was probably staged and that the UK (along with France, US and rebel interests) were involved, in some way, in setting up this fake incident.

It would seem to me that all MPs should be shocked and concerned about what appears to be the truth about the Douma incident, but it does not seen to any concern at all to among the British people's elected representatives. I cannot understand why this should be so?

I would draw your attention to the lies that surrounded the Iraq War (2002) and the lies that appear to surround the Douma incident (2018) and that both were about engineering a military confrontation and involving the UK (and other western nations and allies) in war and war crimes.

I would ask for you to call for an enquiry to investigate:

* The involvement of UK, other western nations and allies with rebel forces in organising a fake incident in Douma.

* Whether undue pressure was put in the OPCW by the UK, other western nations and allies such that the OPCW independence and objectivity has been compromised.

* Whether a covert operation involving the UK, other western nations and allies was in place to engineer a confrontation with Russia."

Posted by: ADKC | May 22 2019 9:36 utc | 219

@ Grieved 218

If you ever have the inclination to read them, they are available for download free on TPB:}
My recomendation would be the audio books, that way you can get the gist while pottering about the house or traveling in the car or whatever. My Mrs got absolutely sick of the constant drone of narrators, though, and my boy started asking me adult questions, so earphones are recommended:}

Posted by: dan | May 22 2019 10:12 utc | 220

For those that believe Assad will win in Syria. New threats as expected by Trump:

US 'sees signs' Damascus 'may' have used chlorine in Idlib, threatens ‘quick & appropriate’ response

Posted by: Zanon | May 22 2019 11:17 utc | 221

So it's not surprising that we now see this chemical weapons claim. SAA can't be allowed to continue.
Interesting and scary to see what comes next.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 21, 2019 9:03:47 PM | 213

Putin rings Trump...
"Before the US attacks the SAA for bs reasons, don't forget that the whole of Syria is within cruise missile range of the Russian Federation. If Assad asks the RF to neutralise all illegal US bases in Syria, in response to an illegal US attack, we will do so forthwith."

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 22 2019 12:50 utc | 222

another thing with GoT movie is that last season lost any common sense when showing technological and organizational aspects of warfare.

basically, rival parties are not more fighting to win but fighting to create a rich Hollywood screenshots.

and, again, fans used to sensible battles are shocked by contrast with this new BS

Posted by: Arioch | May 22 2019 14:43 utc | 223

This also reminds me of Harry Potter saga.

Which was said to get its fame by introducing new storytelling device.

It was "sociological storytelling" and "coming of age", but the novelty was in showing it all by the eyes of the person evolving.
So it looked like the world outside of the narrator was changing, reflecting the character growing up, which itself was left implicit.

Posted by: Arioch | May 22 2019 14:54 utc | 224

Can someone recommend a good and safe non-browser program for downloading videos without watching them online? I used to use Ummy

Posted by: BM | May 21, 2019 8:43:31 AM | 163

Ummy is an offshoot of SaveFrom.Net service, my parents are using it, while personally I use only online part (and browser extension) of SFN. SFN refuses to downloads some formats other than through Ummy, but I never needed to have something like FullHD downloads for long YT videos - there are over avenues for that like torrents.

You may also try freemake's Video Downloader and Video Converter. They used to be simple to use (maybe too simple) and, except for attempting to install all kind of advertisement-driven apps together with themselves rather harmless. But recently they seem to turn more and more into pay-for-more-options kind of programs.

Of FLOSS software, FreeDownloadManager 3.x AFAIR could do it, but it is long defunct, version 5.x became "modern looking" - that is heavy, slow and short of features. Then there is, a German client for services like RapidShare, byt wit hYoutube support too.

Now, notice, when you select hi-quality formats of audio and video from YT - they came as two separate files. You would have to either mux them into one file later, or to use players capable to play extra-file audio to a video.

Posted by: Arioch | May 22 2019 15:15 utc | 225

The Tories seem hell-bent on committing political suicide with their policies which only help to promote Corbyn and Labour… karlof1 @ 181

Once Cameron entered the ‘referendum’ territory and then the subsequent smarmy bogus promise of ‘it is but an advisory vote but we will respect / implement the outcome’ the Tories were in a bind, a perilous position. May was boosted front-stage with her chunky neckgear as no one else aspired to that scaffold. The can (Brexit is brexit) was kicked down the road and is so as I write.

The two trad. parties have both lost support, much of it forever, Labour perhaps a bit less than the Tories. The EU Parliament elections are a peculiar one-off and don’t represent Westminster voting intents, but still…the one major issue - Brexit vs Remain / xyz variants / dominate the pol landscape.

What could - should Corbyn have done differently? Tough question. He could have gathered the Remainers to his heart (knocking away the Lib Dems, and the minor ChangeUK), which might have been a ‘pol strategy’ to ‘win’. Which would have ignored and dismissed Labour voters who were determined Leavers, most of them genuinely (say..) from a ‘leftish’ perspective.

Real life catches up with antiquated power-sharing mechanisms.

poll - votes re. EU parliament. An ex. of rough trends, maybe.

Posted by: Noirette | May 22 2019 15:39 utc | 226

psychohistorian @214--

RT is calling this a new poll saying:

"Some 60 percent of Americans believe that the US should not attack Iranian armed forces first, while a measly 12 percent supported carrying out a pre-emptive attack,"

which spins the results differently from Pompeo's attempt. Furthermore:

"Now, nearly half--49 percent--of Americans were notably unappreciative of Trump’s handling of Iran."

Clearly, public sentiment's trending against the efforts of BigLie Media, perhaps due to efforts by Sanders, Gabbard and Fox's Tucker Carlson. The basic fact that tax monies aren't going to supporting taxpayers while being wantonly squandered on the military isn't going unnoticed as the whole debate about Medicare For All and Green New Deal revolves around how to pay for them when so much is wasted on totally unneeded war.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2019 16:24 utc | 227


In case you missed this....

Ever heard of 'ethnic specific bio weapon' ?

Exhibit A

Brit bio weapon expert David Kelly was 'suicided' cuz he knew too much of that diabolical program.

Posted by: denk | May 22 2019 16:53 utc | 228

karlof1 @ 227

the Pentagon has declared victory!

Dmitry Orlov sums it up:

And just like that... it's over. The Pentagon declares victory in the Persian Gulf. John Bolton's (in)credible intelligence that Iran was readying an attack (of which no evidence ever existed) caused the US to do somethingorother so now Iran isn't going to attack any more. Victory! We're likely to see much more of this sort of nonsense as the Pentagon retreats into a land of makebelieve where high-ranking officers rock themselves to sleep while visions of sugar-plums and trillion-dollar defense contracts dance in their heads as the entire world learns to ignore them and moves on

Posted by: john | May 22 2019 17:03 utc | 229

john @229--

Too bad the entire policy goal of Full Spectrum Dominance won't be waved away in similar fashion. Meanwhile in another new poll "released Monday show that 43 percent of U.S. adults polled from April 17-30 think socialism is a 'good thing.'" However, "The April poll also found that the number of Americans that believe socialism is a bad thing for the country increased, from 40 percent in 1942 to 51 percent today."

What I see as more important from the poll is the negative affect free market propaganda's having on perspectives and its promotion of doublethink. It also shows just how many US citizens are illiterate when it comes to the US Constitution which advocates socialism in its rationale for governing in its Preamble.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2019 18:08 utc | 230

An intriguing, unconfirmed development in Idlib:

"Russia has given Turkey 24 hours to withdraw its points from idlib and that it is not responsible for any damage to them after this time. Russia alert civilians in the northern Hama countryside and southern idlib countryside to evacuate the region because it is a military area that will be exposed to very huge air operations."

Such warnings have been given before in other regions, so It's not unique. Given the level of combat being waged and the fact that Turkish equipment's being very openly used by terrorists, it's clear operations will greatly intensify. As was said by an SAA official, "There's no other way" to rout the terrorists.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2019 18:32 utc | 231

@229 Everybody in the carrier group deserves a medal.

Posted by: dh | May 22 2019 18:34 utc | 232

Further on 231--

Somewhat offhanded confirmation not relegated to this one tweet:

"This morning the Russian command asked Turkey to evacuate the Turkish checkpoints in Idlib during the next few hours. The Turkish defense ministry has already responded that there will be no withdrawal."

Another longtime observer, Geroman, cryptically tweeted:

"Looks like #SAA started the burning party in north Hama & south Idlib…"

If the Turks were told to abandon their O/Ps or risk their destruction as is being widely reported, their answer is inane, although it might be a ruse meant for the terrorists they support. We'll know by tomorrow.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2019 18:50 utc | 233

I don't speak Arabic so have no idea if it is a correct take of what Al-Hassan is saying.

9h9 hours ago
Footage of #Syrian Tiger forces commander Suhayl Al-Hassan speaking to his soldiers with saying, “ in this last battle for #Idlib you were fighting the #Turkish special forces and American (#US) special forces, but victory will be in short time yours”

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 22 2019 19:36 utc | 234

Peter AU 1 @235--

I saw that tweet too and would say its translation's close to accurate as both those forces back al-Ciada and were instrumental in their training and arming.

Meanwhile in US domestic politics, a new yet not unexpected development:

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss:

"The DNC's new finance chair Chris Korge is a Florida real estate mogul and ex-lobbyist whose son dubbed him 'K-Money.'

"Korge is a close ally of Hillary Clinton, and even affectionately called her his 'big sister.'"

The larger story's reported by an organization new to me Statuscoup.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2019 19:54 utc | 235

@Arioch: I have replied to your comments on a previous thread: Propaganda Intensifies Trade War With China.

Posted by: S | May 22 2019 19:56 utc | 236

After posting I ran onto another anti Russia, pro US account which also had the same version of what Al-Hassan was saying.
Looks like they will be up against US special forces so this will be interesting. There will be howls of rage when they are eliminated but they will never be mentioned by the US. There have been times in the past after Russian missile strikes when the US lost the plot for awhile.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 22 2019 20:15 utc | 237

The various drones that have attacked the Russian airbase from Idlib were American. Though the aircraft were simple they were operated by high tech US equipment. Possibly a Turk and US special forces group conducting the airbase attacks rather than jihadis with donated equipment.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 22 2019 20:24 utc | 238

karlof1 @ 231 says:

Too bad the entire policy goal of Full Spectrum Dominance won't be waved away in similar fashion

ya know, karlof1, i think it's time, or past time, to shelve these memes like Full Spectrum Dominance, the yammering tomes of revered statesmen like Henry Kissinger, the astute predications of master geopolitical strategists like Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski, his grand chessboard, the Yinon Plan, and all the other fucked up plans for a new american century, as so much deluded horseshit.

Posted by: john | May 22 2019 20:27 utc | 239

“In particular the U.S. keeps saying other countries make it feel unsafe – this is truly baffling,” he said...
....“We cannot but help be reminded by Don Quixote, depicted in Cervante’s writing, who was all geared up and belligerently ready to tilt at windmills,” Li said, referring to Spain’s most famous work of literature, a 17th century work by Miguel de Cervantes.

Quixote + Orwell - 'war is peace'
....Bolton said. "Armed with these new and innovative tools the Coast Guard will enable a year round persistent US presence in the polar region… like our allies and partners we want the high north to be a region of low tension".

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 22 2019 20:34 utc | 240

john @240--

I don't mind ejecting them. Unfortunately, policy planners in the US Congress and within the Executive still abide by the FSD & Yinon policy goals. The governmental bodies trying to implement said policies must do the renouncing along with leadership. The very vocal yet small minority within Congress must continue their anti-Imperial venting as some of it's actually getting through and being aired by BigLie Media, while also being disseminated via Social Media. Furthermore, many were schooled by DNC's illegalities during 2016 and are already fighting against it which is linked to the Congressional dissenters.

Peter AU 1 @239--

Yes, I recall that was the determination. Does Erdogan truly control his entire military and special forces apparatus or do rogue elements exist that continue support for HTS, as something Turkish certainly does. Was Russia/Putin looking beyond Erdogan with S-400 and Turkstream. IMO, once Syria and the Kurdish issues are solved, Erdogan will no longer be viable as a proper Turkish leader and someone providing greater attention to Turkish development issues will rise as BRI/EAEU inexorably grind forward. IMO, Putin's been as patient as possible with Erdogan, but his stalling had to end sometime.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2019 21:23 utc | 241

Thanks to karlof1 with the ongoing updates of everything

Every time I read about the invaders of Syria and their multitude of weaponry I wonder what the world would be like if there was not so much sick money behind the endless well funded wars.

I am glad to read that there is more push in Syria and expect that this is where Russia will start killing embeded US military as was reported which will force the geo-politics to another level.

Rubber, meet road

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 23 2019 1:12 utc | 242

psychohistorian @243--

You're welcome for those updates, but they've spawned a rather different germ. After reading and writing about this and that, I began to wonder about one potential outcome for our current set of dilemmas. I settled on a description of Earth and its inhabitants painted by Asimov in his 1950 Pebble in the Sky--the planet's deeply polluted by radiation and few regions are habitable, people unable/unwilling to work are executed and very few are allowed to live beyond 60 years of age; yet, the planet's people remain rebellious within the larger galactic structure they're subsumed within, demanding the terraforming of Earth to restore its irradiated areas. IMO, such an outcome is more plausible today than in 1950, although we're not told how Earth suffered its injuries. The dotards within TrumpCo seem to want to create that injury so they can bring on their mythical Rapture. What will they do when it becomes clear they'll be displaced from their positions of power when TrumpCo loses in 2020? Unfortunately, I must contemplate the above potential along with sunnier outcomes.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 23 2019 4:12 utc | 243

Brit bio weapon expert David Kelly was 'suicided' cuz he knew too much of that diabolical program.
Posted by: denk | May 22, 2019 12:53:49 PM | 229

Yeah, 'they' were worried Kelly would spill the beans. i.e. the wishful thinking that infectious dis-eases can be programmed to target a racial profile with specific genetic markers is bullshit. The reason it's bullshit is that racial markers are all superficial/ cosmetic traits, not biological function traits.
It'll never happen.

FrUKUS disregard for Human Life is so comprehensive that if they ever decided to expunge a specific race from a geographical region they'd apply the old Kill 'em All doctrine and squeeze out a few crocodile tears for the collateral damage.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 23 2019 4:49 utc | 244

Guess if B would again write about GoT he rather put this picture to the article text :-D

Posted by: Arioch | May 23 2019 8:52 utc | 245

@Arioch: I have replied to your comments on a previous thread: Propaganda Intensifies Trade War With China.

Posted by: S | May 22, 2019 3:56:20 PM | 237

Wow, I think that talk was long done, afteral it was just trying to guess the future, and without knowing inside data too

Posted by: Arioch | May 23 2019 9:00 utc | 246


“Again, I pray for the president of the United States. I wish that his family, or his administration, or his staff would have an intervention for the good of the country,” Pelosi told reporters.


Posted by: psychohistorian | May 23 2019 17:29 utc | 247

Ralph Nader: "What and Who Gave Us Trump? Why did Trump look around and think, "Hey, I can get away with this."? Well, take a look around."

This short essay by Nader is outstanding and deserves to be posted in an active thread, but the current Huawei thread is too important and active to be disrupted, IMO.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 23 2019 17:29 utc | 248

psychohistorian @248--

The same could be said about Pelosi, Biden, and a host of others!

Posted by: karlof1 | May 23 2019 17:31 utc | 249

@Arioch #246: Or this one.

Posted by: S | May 23 2019 18:43 utc | 250

AOC & Warren are going after Mnuchin and I hope they nail his ass, and then go after the next shark and so on and so forth. There're far too many like Trump, Obama and the Clintons that ought to have nothing but the items provided by the prison they're sent to. And while I agree that the cash/bail system needs to change, there are some that ought to be required to post billions to stay out of jail before their trial.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 23 2019 19:51 utc | 251

As this twitter thread shows there are some seriously sick people with their heads rammed far up their rectums residing within the Outlaw US Empire when it comes to Assange's profession.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 23 2019 21:05 utc | 252

Caitlin Johnstone is so correct in her assessment of the tweet @253 and this one:

"Check the comments on this one, too. Now as mainstream reporters finally, far too late, begin speaking up in defense of Assange, they meet with the brick wall of propaganda that they themselves built."

I'm consumed by anger, sorrow and contempt. Gotta agree with Global Times chief editor's words I posted in vid on the Huawei thread earlier--the Deep State is Fascist.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 23 2019 21:23 utc | 253

karlof1 @249: What and Who gave us Trump?

This is more democracy works nonsense. "The problem" is boiled down to a single guy for the dumbed-down, brainwashed masses: Trump.

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The Imperial Presidency wields power that is far too great to allow for a democratic choice. The best explanation for what we've seen from recent US Presidents is that President's are well-vetted members of the 'Deep State'. President's get all the blame and all the credit then the Deep State replaces them with a new team member and starts fresh. This is supported by evidence that many of our last 6 Presidents had/have longstanding ties to the CIA:

Bush Sr: former CIA Director

Clinton: rumors of his allow CIA flights to/from an Arkansas airport

GW Bush: son of a former CIA Director

Obama: rumored grandson of OSS (the organization which became CIA), and son of women that may have been a CIA operative

Trump: FBI/CIA may have been running a counter-intelligence operation from Trump Organization (Felix Sater), and some believe that the first casino that Trump purchased was used to launder CIA drug money. In any case, Trump was close to the Clinton's for many years and his position as a internationally know executive/entertainer would make him an attractive candidate for CIA.

Each President brings friends and associates of the Deep State into his Administration. Trump is no different, except that these are people that are close to individuals and/or groups that are supposedly anti-Trump:
VP Pence: McCain's friend;

CIA Director Haspel: her nomination was supported Brennan (her mentor?);

NSA Bolton: a neocon - neocons were "Never Trump";

AG Wm Barr: close to Mueller (who was Comey's mentor).

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 23 2019 23:42 utc | 254

Nice essay by Nader, huh! Knew you wouldn't like it as he contradicts your hypothesis.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2019 0:27 utc | 255

karlof1: ... he contradicts your hypothesis.

No, he provides info that supports my thesis (Presidential service to the establishment/Deep State over the people) but leaves out relevant info so that he can better support his partisan messaging.


Trump (2016): Why are we there? Let Russia take care of ISIS.

Trump (2017-19): 2 missile attacks on Syria; threatens to bomb Syria if Idlib is attacked; occupies Northeastern Syria; recognizes Golan Heights as Israeli territory


Trump (2016): I love Wikileaks

Trump (2019): I don't know anything about Wikileaks


Trump (2016 & 2017): Fake News! ... Fake News! ... Fake News!

Trump (2019): Juan Guaido is the leader of Venezuela

All-powerful President or Deep State tool?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 24 2019 1:20 utc | 256

Democratically elected all-powerful President.

Hail to the Chief! Except not.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 24 2019 1:50 utc | 257

if we lived in a sane world, assange and manning would be held up as examples of people exposing the imperialistic empire of the crimes they commit regularly, thinking it is acceptable murdering, maiming or imprisoning innocent people... instead many, especially in the usa - are standing alongside the war crimes cheering the empire on against assange and manning.. reading the letters to the editor of the new york times article that had been linked in karlof1's tweeter link on the other thread was really disturbing for what it says about people who read the nyt... i suspect this is a commonly held belief that they have been cultivated to hold... sick, no matter how one slices it... trump is so full of shite, it is beyond embarrassing... the west need to hang their head in shame over what they have become here, with the usa leading the world into the gutter..

Posted by: james | May 24 2019 4:01 utc | 258


Good rant on a sad state of affairs.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 24 2019 4:28 utc | 259

There is that Trump vs Trump subreddit.

But, no one seemed to bother creating Obama vs Obama or Bush vs Bush or Clinton vs Clinton subreddits

Posted by: Arioch | May 24 2019 11:44 utc | 260

Some US boots now in bodybags.

Elijah J. Magnier
‏ @ejmalrai
21m21 minutes ago
A suicide attacker hit a U.S. military unit operating in eastern Syria, near the Iraqi border. Two American Special Operations troops were killed, and two more were taken hostage by a Syrian militia widely believed to be backed by Iran.

Elijah J. Magnier
26m26 minutes ago
One week after Soleimani’s calls to #Hezbollah leader S. H. Nasrallah, a #US diplomatic convoy travelling to #Baghdad Airport was hit by several powerful roadside bombs. A high-level State Department political officer, 3 diplomats and a U.S. Army colonel were instantly killed.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 24 2019 17:17 utc | 261

Peter AU 1 @262--

I recall when Imperial personnel were ferried by helo from Green Zone to airport because highway was too dangerous; it seems those days have returned. However, such attacks don't require any link to Iran as there're plenty of Iraqi groups willing and able to launch such operations. They could easily be tied to the political effort being waged in Iraqi Parliament to pass legislation ousting US occupation forces--again. I would expect such incidents to escalate.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2019 18:27 utc | 262

Since there's no Assange charges related thread yet, this will have to do for now. The following statements are from here.

Senator Warren did herself no favors:

"'Assange is a bad actor who has harmed U.S. national security — and he should be held accountable,' said Warren. 'But Trump should not be using this case as a pretext to wage war on the First Amendment and go after the free press who hold the powerful accountable everyday.'"

Sanders omitted mention of Assange:

"'Let me be clear: it is a disturbing attack on the First Amendment for the Trump administration to decide who is or is not a reporter for the purposes of a criminal prosecution,' Sanders said in a tweet Friday. 'Donald Trump must obey the Constitution, which protects the publication of news about our government.'"

As I wrote on another thread, numerous presstitutes have flipped their positions, most notably Madddow. The linked article cites numerous powerful media members and provides additional info.

2020 Candidate Tulsi Gabbard tweeted content similar to Sanders:

"Charging Assange under the Espionage Act will have a srs chilling effect on our most fundamental rights of freedom of speech & freedom of the press. Every American—certainly every journalist—must strongly condemn this anti-democratic act by the Trump Admin."

And lastly, Caitlin Johnston's take on this isn't to be missed.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 24 2019 22:04 utc | 263

@264 Even the BBC managed to come up with a lukewarm criticism of the new charges against Assange...but will it get any traction?

"The Republicans have their own narrative of journalists as deep-state co-conspirators. Even mainstream reporters have long kept Assange at arm's length. For them, he is the symbol of reckless figures emerging in the "new media" of the internet.

Assange is not the rallying figure advocates for press freedom would choose, but he is the one they have been given. Assange may be the first modern journalist to be prosecuted under this law. However, if successful, he will certainly not be the last."

Posted by: dh | May 24 2019 22:18 utc | 264

dh @265--

Somewhat related is Aaron Mate thread since much anti-Assange bias is related to the Russiagate hoax narrative:

"Those demanding the release of Mueller’s underlying material in a probe that found no Trump-Russia conspiracy are now livid over an order to declassify the underlying material that launched the probe. The hypocrisy is staggering, & the reason is obvious: the probe was baseless.

"The hypocrisy doesn’t end there. The entire collusion narrative subsisted on selective leaks from the start. These leaks weren’t denounced; they were celebtrated & used to spin a collusion fantasy. Mueller’s report put an end to that. The spin is over; hopefully now we get facts.

"For progressives, there’s an obvious reason for this info’s release & for accountability. It’s not just been that Russiagate has been a disaster for the left & propped up the failed neoliberals who lost to Trump. It’s also that intel agencies have a history of targeting leftists, & holding them to account here could prevent or mitigate that in the future. FBI opened a counterintel probe of Trump because they didn’t like what he said about Russia; what’s to stop them from doing so on a future candidate critical of US foreign policy from the actual left?"

The thread's educational as it reveals the degree to which some were duped and continue to dupe themselves.

As for some unexpected people siding with Assange, one is editor for Wall Street Journal who has published the sorts of docs Assange is indicted for.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 25 2019 0:34 utc | 265

Can't wait until next open thread to share this and ask for opinions:

Posted by: John Anthony La Pietra | May 25 2019 2:44 utc | 266


Using the very longstanding racial inequities present within the USA as a way to show the USA wasn't at all what it proclaimed itself to be was a ploy used by USSR during Cold War as it showed very well that the word of the USA wasn't to be trusted whatsoever. When it comes to sowing racial discord within the USA, no foreign entity need do anything as such discord's been ongoing since the Puritans landed at Plymouth. Without even clicking on your link, it's clear that the item's just another in a long line of BigLie Media crap unworthy of anything other than deleting.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 25 2019 4:14 utc | 267

Looks lke the Aussie ambassador will be going under the microscope.
Trump declassifying documents on the so called investigation
"The US leader addressed reporters on the White House lawn, telling the press he authorised his Attorney-General William Barr to examine what could be "millions of pages".
I hope he looks at Australia and I hope he looks at Ukraine," Mr Trump said."

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 25 2019 10:02 utc | 268

Below is a Xinhua posting about Turkey I have seen no hint of elsewhere and it is well written, IMO

Turkey to find way out of S-400 deal to avoid confrontation with U.S.: analysts

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 26 2019 6:09 utc | 269

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