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April 30, 2019

Venezuela - Random Guyaidó's New Coup Attempt Turns Out to Be A Dangerous Joke

(This post was appended throughout the day. It is in chronological order.)
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The Random Guyaidó who the Trump administration tries to make president of Venezuela just launched another coup attempt against the government.

He announced his intent in a series of tweets around 6:00 am local time (machine translated):

Juan Guaidó @jguaido - 9:58 utc - 30 Apr 2019

People of Venezuela began the end of usurpation. At this moment I meet the main military units of our armed force initiating the final phase of Operation Freedom.

Venezuelan people we go to the street, national armed force to continue the deployment until we consolidate the end of the encroachment that is already irreversible.

The national armed forces have made the right decision, they have the support of the Venezuelan people, with the endorsement of our Constitution, with the guarantee of being on the right side of the story. To deploy the forces to achieve the cessation of usurpation.

People of Venezuela, we need to go out on the streets together, to support the democratic forces and to regain our freedom. Organized and together mocilícense the main military units. People of Caracas, all to La Carlota.

Guaido also posted a short video which shows talking into the camera with some 30 soldiers standing behind him.


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Some members of the armed forces released Leopoldo Lopez, an opposition leader under house arrest since he, in 2014, organized violent protests against the government. Guaidó and López went to the La Carlota airforce base near Caracas. Lopez tweeted (machine translated):

Leopoldo López @leopoldolopez - 10:17 utc - 30 Apr 2019

Venezuela: The final phase has begun for the cessation of usurpation, Operation Freedom. I have been released by the military to the order of the Constitution and of President Guaidó. I'm at the La Carlota Base. All to mobilize. It's time to conquer freedom. Strength and Faith


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López is, like Guaidó, a creature of the U.S. of A. He was also involved in the 2002 coup attempt against then President Chavez.

It is not clear if Guaido and Lopez entered the air base. A person from the government said they are only on a highway.

A video posted by some TV station shows a platoon of armed and masked soldiers at a road block.

The Venezuelan Minister for Communication Jorge Rodríguez says the coup will be defeated (machine translated):

Jorge Rodríguez @jorgerpsuv - 10:18 utc - 30 Apr 2019

We inform the Venezuelan people that we are currently confronting and deactivating a small group of military traitors who were positioned in the Altamira distributor to promote a coup against the constitution and Peace of the Republic ... 1/2

To this attempt was added the far-right coupe and assassin, who announced his violent agenda for months. We call on the people to stay on high alert, along with the glorious Bolivarian National armed forces, to defeat the coup attempt and preserve the peace. We will win 2/2

The Distibuidor Altamira is a highway exit near the affluent business and living district Altamira in eastern Caracas.

Some, but not all, Internet access from/to Venezuela is disabled.

The chief of the armed forces of Venezuela chimes in (machine translated):

Vladimir Padrino L. @vladimirpadrino - 10:51 utc - 30 Apr 2019

We reject this coup movement that seeks to fill the country with violence. The pseudo political leaders who have placed themselves at the forefront of this subversive movement, have employed troops and policemen with weapons of war in a public thoroughfare of the city to create chaos and terror

News of the coup comes shortly after Reuters reports that the Blackwater founder Erik Prince is looking for money to set up a mercenary army to attack Venezuela:

In private meetings in the United States and Europe, Prince sketched out a plan to field up to 5,000 soldiers-for-hire on behalf of Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido, according to two sources with direct knowledge of Prince’s pitch.
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A person familiar with the administration’s thinking said the White House would not support such a plan.
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One of Prince’s key arguments, one source said, is that Venezuela needs what Prince calls a “dynamic event” to break the stalemate that has existed since January, ...

No "dynamic event" happened so far.

It has now been confirmed that Guadió and Lopez did not enter the La Carlota air base. It is under control of government forces. Some soldiers are said to have been "deceived".

The metro of Caracas was shut down by the government.

A short video and a photo show a few low rank soldiers on a highway bridge with a carton of bananas and a basket of machine gun ammunition. Besides one machine guns they are armed with normal rifles and pistols. They are marked with a blue armlet or masks as Guaidó supporters.


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Another short video shows Lopez, somewhat frustrated, on a highway bridge with a handful of soldiers and a few journos.

CNN diverts from the official U.S. government line and Marco Rubio isn't happy about it.


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Chavista supporters of President Maduro have surrounded the President's Miraflores Palace to prevent the coup plotters from capturing it.

President Nicolás Maduro tweeted (machine translated):

Nicolás Maduro @NicolasMaduro - 14:07 utc - 30 Apr 2019

Nerves of Steel! I have spoken with the commanders of all the REDIs and ZODI of the country, who have expressed their total loyalty to the people, to the Constitution and to the fatherland. I call for maximum popular mobilization to ensure the victory of peace. Venceremos!

Guaidó moved to the Plaza Altamira, a place of regular opposition protests in a wealthy quarter, and speaks to a minor crowd.

There are claims, including by Marco Rubio, that Guaidó supporters have taken the La Carlota Base. (La Carlota's official name is Generalissimo Francisco de Miranda Air Base.) These reports are false. The small gang of Guaidó soldiers and some Guaidó supporters are on a highway bridge near the entrance of the air base. The base is in the hand of government forces. The opposition never entered it.

There are no reliable reports that any additional military besides the 30 or so men on the bridge have switched to Guaidó.

15:00 utc

Someone points out that the soldiers supporting Guaidó carry M4 Colt assault rifles. The official assault rifle of the Venezuelan military is the Kalashnikov AK-103. Back in February there were a number of flights from Florida to Venezuela which delivered weapons to the opposition.

16:00 utc

It is becoming clear that this coup attempt is no more than a stupid PR campaign. Here is a map of the whole 'coup' scene which plays in a small area of the wealthy Altamira district of Caracas.


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At the bottom of the map is the La Calota air base, also known as Generalissimo Francisco de Miranda Base, which Guaido supporters tried to enter. They threw rocks against the guards until tear gas drove them away. Directly north of it runs a highway east to west. The two highway bridges on which Guaidó's soldiers stand are crossing the highway right next to the base. Some 500 meters north of the highway bridges is Plaza Altamira (the upper blue point) where Guaidó spoke to some supporters.

The highway bridges can be seen in this video taken from north of the highway looking south across the bridges towards the airport. In the video some fireworks go off to which nervous Guaidó supporting soldiers on a bridge respond (1 2 vid) by firing a few shots into the air.

The whole coup attempt was run within a 500 x 200 meter corridor with nothing of significance happening outside of it. A dangerous propaganda stunt but so far nothing more than that.

This slight modification of the Guaidó/López picture above seems appropriate. These dudes are mere comic figures, wannabe fantasy heroes.


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17:00 utc

Video of some six alleged coup soldiers who loudly claim their innocence (machine translated):

Coup soldiers surrender in #Venezuela and claim they were brought to the uprising under deception by military deserters followers of John Guaidó

Quotes from a speech by Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino (machine translated):

A small group, tiny military and police officers decided to kidnap SOME GNB vehicles, armaments and ammunition. They broke in this morning and they bet on the Altamira dealer
Weapons of War, rifles and machine guns were placed, betting on the roads through which the citizens move. It is a coup attempt, no doubt, of a mediocre magnitude
80 percent of the troops who came to this call were deceived. He sought to bring chaos and death to a group of country soldiers who were deceived into committing a terrorist act
It is a coup attempt of a very small and negligible magnitude. We have given immediate response: all the commands of the #FANB, of the components, of the tactical units, operative, of the Redis, Zodi, of the militia were immediately reported
80 percent of those who were taken there, deceived, left on their own and reported with their natural controls.
The majority of the military with weapons have left the place and have gone to the Plaza Altamira, where they are reediting everything that we live in the year 2002
We will not allow any aggression against the law, institutionality, democracy and the Constitution. The Republic's weapons are to defend their sovereignty and independence.
Responsiblity for any bloodshed and violence to the fascist and anti-patriotic leadership, which does not deserve respect from Venezuelans or FANB, because they try to use military for their own purposes.
"Miraflores cannot be reached by violence. Who arrives in Miraflores for violence, will be overthrown by violence, "says Vladimir Godfather Lopez, Minister of Defense of #Venezuela

(FANB, GNB, Redis, Zodis are abbreviations for the Venezuelan army, National Guard and other security forces.)

18:00 utc

Opposition TV showed Guaidó and López talking in a crowd of maybe a thousand all white people in Altamira. There were six men in Army and National Guard uniforms with them plus four bulky bodyguards in civilian clothes (one of color). They drove away in four seemingly armored SUVs with darkened windows.

Some radical youngsters on motorcycles still play cat and mouse with riot police and national guard near the airbase. The number of people near the airbase and on the bridges shrunk considerably.

It seems that the whole event is over.

The conclusion below from our first entry today seem to have been correct.

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Guaidó seems to have neither a base nor large scale military support nor access to significant military equipment. If that does not change this coup attempt is likely to fail within a few hours.

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US Unconventional Warfare Manual - Plain Text

The Unconventional Warfare Manual sets out the techniques of subversion the US uses in targeting nation states that don't toe the line. Although the document is of recent date, the policy has clearly existed for a long time. Based on Church Committee hearings, it has been estimated that the US has carried out tens of thousands of covert operations since WW2.

Posted by: Tobin Paz | Apr 30, 2019 3:58:20 PM | 101

Now that leopoldo lopez is out of prison and out of the country, random guy makes for a good martyr of the revolution, doesn't he. His fight for freedom won't be forgotten, this assasination can't stand without a strong response.

Posted by: radiator | Apr 30, 2019 3:58:55 PM | 102

Andre Vitchek on coup-let

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=bUz09WAxdyY&app=desktop

Posted by: arby | Apr 30, 2019 4:05:30 PM | 103

I can't believe Maduro was able to beat this challenge.
This was a text book CIA coup attempt like they done all over the world starting with Mossadegh and Arbenz.
I wish Maduro would just die but I don't like the USA doing the
coup thing all over again.

Posted by: Fernando Martinez | Apr 30, 2019 4:06:58 PM | 104

Lopez and his family have just asked for asylum in the chilean embassy in Caracas.
https://twitter.com/venanalysis/status/1123311615569465345
So that one will not bother anyone anymore...
And also the other coup idiot traitors in the brazilian embassy (they probably will get along well with the other subservient lackey bolsonazi) https://twitter.com/venanalysis/status/1123315396793307141

It s quite interesting, the more idiotic attempts they make the better the deep cleaning... A modified version of the Lincoln quote "you can fool some of the people some of the time... etc" should be it is possible to survive being an A**hole or being a complete idiot but not being an a**hole AND a complete idiot at the sametime

As somebody else said before: they will all be living in Miami before the week is over.

Posted by: Ncole | Apr 30, 2019 4:07:06 PM | 105

Look at the shadows, there is only one ver bright light source.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 30, 2019 9:54:25 AM | 12

Going all in like that is unnecessary. In fact, careful inspection allows one to distinguish more than one shadow. The rimlight on Lopez and the guy behind right side is consistent with Random Guy's face rim light. The presence of the extra light source you can't identify in the guys behind can be seen illuminating Lopez left hand and its respective shadow on his trousers.

But I am curious: what would the opposition gain by engaging in such deception if it that had been the case?

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Apr 30, 2019 4:10:31 PM | 106

AP:
Chile’s foreign ministry says Venezuelan activist Leopoldo López and his family have sought refuge at the country’s diplomatic mission in Caracas.

This would seem to confirm that this chapter is over.

Yet, it is hard to believe that there is not another shoe to drop.

Something is missing. Perhaps, it was a honey trap that got Guaido to jump early.

If the Lima Group sends troops, it could get ugly.

Hal C

Posted by: Hal C | Apr 30, 2019 4:12:07 PM | 107

People, we are witnessing history in the making.
This is a Trafalgar moment.
This is like the Turks taking Constantinople.
This is like the Kennedy assasination.
This is epic.
A turning point.
The poopy boopy Venezuelan armed forces allied with the Cubans cum Ruskies have beat back a USA coup attempt.
Syria was an ok victory.
But this is in USA's backyard.
The shattering of the Monroe Doctrine.
The Biblical prophecy of the Giant with the feet of clay is taking place.
If China is smart they will enter from stage left and claim it' spot as a world power openly supporting Maburro.

Posted by: Fernando Martinez | Apr 30, 2019 4:14:17 PM | 108

Granma

US Master Plan to Destroy Bolivarian Venezuela

A sinister plan is underway, its objective: to destroy Bolivarian Venezuela. The details of this project appear meticulously specified in a secret document dated February 23, 2018, that bears the signature of Admiral Kurt Walter Tidd, current commander-in-chief of the U.S. Southern Command.

https://libya360.wordpress.com/2019/04/30/us-master-plan-to-destroy-bolivarian-venezuela/

Posted by: Barovsky | Apr 30, 2019 4:23:37 PM | 109

Are the Russians and Cubans even involved here? From what I can see Random Guaido and his fascist pal Lopez just called for a counterrevolution and nobody showed. I think there is still a serious risk that the CIA death squad guys seen above acting as bodyguards might do some sniper activity tomorrow, but this part of the coup appears to have ended with a whimper.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 30, 2019 4:31:07 PM | 110

International Labour Day Maidan could be in the cards.../

Posted by: Chevrus | Apr 30, 2019 4:37:58 PM | 111

Comment to Barovsky, document https://libya360.wordpress.com/2018/05/13/masterstroke-the-us-plan-to-overthrow-the-venezuelan-government/ may recall to some the charges made at Nuremberg, "planning a war of aggression", a crime under US law......some were hanged... One does wonder at the esteemed Admiral K W Tidd . Of course Nuremberg itself was long ago trashed by the esteemed and courageous Bushie, but the US Constitution and the Senate's ratification of the UN Charter make the planning a crime under US law, today, right now...

I am not complaining, simply astonished at the crime.

Posted by: Walter | Apr 30, 2019 4:49:30 PM | 112

F24 seems to be fully on board with the coup-let. There's a talking head explaining to the host in the studio what Guyaido's options are and "what he should do next".
I'm beginning to wonder how much planning and forethought went into this insult to everyone's intelligence? If we oversimplify the situation it's a completely illegal attempt to overthrow an elected government and the vast bulk of countries voicing support for it are our old friends Christian Colonialism's fake International Community of greedy thieves, murderers and liars.

But, can they not see the hazard posed by legitimising the public spectacle of a random citizen swearing himself in as 'interim' President, and then calling for mass public support?

Given that this was F24, there's already an uprising in France, and Macron is far more unpopular in France than Maduro is in Venezuela, one has to wonder what the Hell were France's visionless twerps thinking when they decided to endorse AmeriKKKa's dopey plan for Venezuela?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 30, 2019 4:52:54 PM | 113

Apparently, both López and Guaidó have sought asylum in the Chilean embassy.

https://www.chiletoday.cl/breaking-venezuelan-opposition-leader-escapes-to-chilean-embassy/

I look forward to the embassy video showing them skateboarding in their quarters. I don't, however, believe any self-respecting cat will befriend either one of these tools.

Posted by: Emily Dickinson | Apr 30, 2019 4:53:38 PM | 114

I just looked at the Reuters propaganda web site and they are reporting a major conflict with lots of warfare....it is their focus of the main page.....seems to conflict with the reporting I am reading here.....grin

Don't you just love the smell of dying empire? It like a breath of fresh air.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 30, 2019 4:59:29 PM | 115

Correction to 114 above. The Venezuela Analysis tweet linking to the Chile Today story claiming that both Guaidó and López had taken refuge in the Chilean embassy has been removed, and the story only claims that López is there. Miscommunication in a rapidly developing situation? In any case, surely Guaidó is seeking refuge SOMEplace.

Posted by: Emily Dickinson | Apr 30, 2019 5:00:30 PM | 116

multiple sources are reporting similar information to telesur's update:

UPDATE: 3:11

pm Chile’s Foreign Affairs Minister Roberto Ampuero confirmed that Venezuelan opposition politician Leopoldo Lopez and his family requested asylum at the Chilean embassy in Caracas."Lilian Tintori and her daughter entered as guests of our diplomatic mission in Caracas. A few minutes ago her spouse, Leopoldo Lopez, joined his family in that place. Chile reaffirms commitment with Venezuelan democrats," Minister Ampuero tweeted.

that seems that this iteration of the coup has fizzled. stay tuned for what comes next.

Posted by: wendy davis | Apr 30, 2019 5:10:07 PM | 117

interesting as chile was the home of pinochet... i can't imagine the chilean people having a short memory of that.. they must recognize a cia con job when it is staring them in the face.. i wonder how this gets processed..

Posted by: james | Apr 30, 2019 5:18:08 PM | 118

ot - pat lang stupidity..
https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2019/04/httpsenwikipediaorgwikibay_of_pigs.html

Posted by: james | Apr 30, 2019 5:20:27 PM | 119

as the stomach turns....

US President Donald Trump has threatened Cuba with a “full and complete embargo, together with highest-level sanctions” if Cuban soldiers do not end their supporting role in Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro’s government.

Posted by: james | Apr 30, 2019 5:22:01 PM | 120

See: https://www.rt.com/news/457947-caracas-warns-use-weapons-coup/

Things seem to be heating up.

Posted by: Barovsky | Apr 30, 2019 5:23:32 PM | 121

Posted by: Walter | Apr 30, 2019 4:49:30 PM | 112

Walter, it's simple; might is right. You don't fuck with the Empire. But hubris...

Posted by: Barovsky | Apr 30, 2019 5:26:29 PM | 122

NOBTS #96

Random Guy gets sniped. Yep that's how I read it and Lopez takes up the gauntlet. There are many scenarios but a single assassination wont be enough to kick off a coup.
On Maduro tactics, I think passive is good. There are no bodies on the streets, soldiers that support Maduro are not being asked to kill countrymen and women. Letting Random and his team blunder and embarrass their supporters is good work and all their own doing. He just has to protect his people and show the way forward to prosperity in hard times.

Mahatma Gandi would approve and he routed the British empire.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 30, 2019 5:27:18 PM | 123

Re: James 120,

Has anyone told Trump that a full embargo is an Act of War? looks like John Bolton is panicking and is telling Trump to triple down, if Russia put 100 troops in to protect Venezuela, how many troops do you think Russia would put in Cuba to protect it (heck maybe some nukes as well). If Trump (and the US in general) keeps spouting so much BS all the time on every subject throughout the world (Taiwan, East China Sea, Poland, Ukraine, the Black Sea, Syria, Iran, Iraq) eventually some of it will stick and the US will blunder into a military disaster they weren't planning on entering

Posted by: Kadath | Apr 30, 2019 5:31:13 PM | 124

somewhat surprising to me at first glance, but with a little further thought, as to be expected - the US media is corporate controlled, pro-militarism, pro-interventionism, pro-armaments sales, and totally pro-regime change - anywhere in the world. All editorialists are neo-colonialists and imperialists at heart, regardless of who occupies the white house


https://fair.org/home/zero-percent-of-elite-commentators-oppose-regime-change-in-venezuela/


Zero Percent of Elite Commentators Oppose Regime Change in Venezuela

A FAIR survey of US opinion journalism on Venezuela found no voices in elite corporate media that opposed regime change in that country. Over a three-month period (1/15/19–4/15/19), zero opinion pieces in the New York Times and Washington Post took an anti–regime change or pro-Maduro/Chavista position. Not a single commentator on the big three Sunday morning talkshows or PBS NewsHour came out against President Nicolás Maduro stepping down from the Venezuelan government.....


Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 30, 2019 5:41:44 PM | 125

"Guaido also posted a short video which shows talking into the camera with some 30 soldiers standing behind him."

You are being very generous. The actual number is probably about half that.

https://www.fort-russ.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/14-men.jpg

Posted by: Yonatan | Apr 30, 2019 5:45:13 PM | 126

Given the number of failures by Random Guy, we must surely be approaching the stage where RG(TM)is more useful dead than alive as far as the US regime changers are concerned. They have already brought out his probable replacement - El Loopy Lopez.

Posted by: Yonatan | Apr 30, 2019 5:49:47 PM | 127

Let's make a mess of Venezuela, you know, like the US has done across the middle east/north africa since.... well since almost forever....

It's so frustrating to see the current lunacy in the mainstream media, and the idiotocracy at work in washington DC, regardless of political party or who's fat ass sits in the oval office. Tulsi Gabbard is about the only sane person in DC right now on foreign affairs - forget Sanders, Warren and 'regular guy' Joe Biden


and as Lebanese geo-political commentator Sarah Abdallah at twitter https://twitter.com/sahouraxo
correctly notes:


US interventions in:

#Iraq -> Millions killed and displaced + the rise of ISIS.

#Libya -> Thousands killed, millions displaced + slave markets.

#Syria -> Death and destruction + millions displaced.

But sure, US intervention in #Venezuela sounds like a totally wonderful idea.


Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 30, 2019 5:51:12 PM | 128

There's a link to this doc in the libya360 link I posted earlier but here it is. It was written in May of 2018:

https://libya360.wordpress.com/2018/05/13/masterstroke-the-us-plan-to-overthrow-the-venezuelan-government/

Masterstroke: The US Plan to Overthrow the Venezuelan Government
Posted by Internationalist 360° on May 13, 2018

By Stella Calloni

Posted by: Barovsky | Apr 30, 2019 5:57:04 PM | 129

Omg!

Hope everyone saw Blitzer's interview with Pompeo! Pompeo stated that Maduro was getting ready to leave for Cuba; as in FLEE!, and his plane was on the tarmac and Pompeo claimed THE RUSSIANS TALKED HIM OUT OF IT! When asked whether the U.S. could guarantee Maduro safe passage to Cuba; Pompeo EQUIVOCATED! This is CRAZY.

Bolton also answered questions from the press earlier and lies were coming out of both sides of his mouth.

Both Pompeo and Bolton refused to answer questions on details relating to U.S. involvement at this time but there were veiled threats all over the place.

If Maduro doesn't have iron-clad intelligence, then the Ruusians better provide significant help in this regard, because I sense heavy black ops (CIA) in the works.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 30, 2019 5:59:33 PM | 130

The only similarity of this chapuza coup with "Bay of Pigs" event, is in the quality of organizers, orchestrators and perpetrators of this new intend on coup in Venezuela, outright fascist pigs...

Some out there, of course, are excited, since they have felt nostalgies from their times at "Assault Brigades" and "Hunters Battalions"....
Eventhough they try sometimes to disguise themselves as democrats and constitutionalists, it is in these times when they show all the way their real colors.

To talk about alleged repressions by socialist governments from the US, when they are currently oppressing every nation and peoples in the world who do not pledge to their interests, is not like calling the kettle black, but worst, and exercise of projection of olympic cathegory.

Posted by: Sasha | Apr 30, 2019 6:00:20 PM | 131

People ruined the thread AGAIN with their links! Do a PREVIEW DAMNIT.
If your link appears off the page, then use the html tags! It's
impossible to read the thread now.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 30, 2019 6:04:17 PM | 132

Guaido is just an opportunity for Bolton to stir up trouble.
He has never been part of a CIA long term regime change plan. If he was then his wikipedia page would not have been created just 2 weeks before Trump recognised him as President (or at least it would have been manipulated to appear a lot older). And he would have been mentioned in WaPo a hundred times in the last 2 years instead of only a week before Trump recognition.

My guess - the CIA want Guaido out of the way to start a serious run at Madura. Sacrifice Guaido and blame Madura (he'll be dead in a week I guess).

Posted by: Michael Droy | Apr 30, 2019 6:06:43 PM | 133

MSM misinfo everywhere.
DW showed the flaming aid truck and said the identity of who started it is under dispute. No. It was caught on video.
There is a story about a military vehicle plowing into a crowd of supporters. But the video I saw shows a military vehicle hitting a handful of people off to the side. (not that running over people could ever be a good thing)

Every time I see Guano Guaido, I see a puppet. I wonder how many masters he serves beyond the US.

Posted by: Curtis | Apr 30, 2019 6:10:00 PM | 134


Dilyana Gaytandzhieva
1 hr ·

American semi-automatic carabines AR-57 with silencers can be seen in the hands of heavily armed Guaido’s supporters in #Venezuela
https://www.facebook.com/dilyana.gaytandzhieva/posts/10218483967273029

Posted by: brian | Apr 30, 2019 6:11:59 PM | 135

to Walter # 83. Yes indeed. I stand corrected Sir and thinking it over for a tick I realize that Kurt Vonnegut of course did write about it. Bad on me to have neglected his truth.

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Apr 30, 2019 6:13:04 PM | 136

Random Guydo and Leopoldo seek refuge in Chilean embassy LINK

It would be great if maduro now stations some national guardsmen outside the embassy 24/7 and make them live inside the embassy like Julian Assange. If they set a foot outside the embassy they're immediately arrested. That would be a great riposte. "Criticise us for doing it while the UK did the same to Julian". The irony wouldn't be lost on the world...

Posted by: Gehennah | Apr 30, 2019 6:19:12 PM | 137

Circe @132
I have no problems clicking on links etc. none.
You must be using a different browser or something. I don't see anyone else having those problems.

Posted by: arby | Apr 30, 2019 6:19:39 PM | 138

If Guaido remains free after this then Maduro is an unsalvageable joke.
There are no words for the U.S. administration, I am stunned that America has devolved to this.

Posted by: jared | Apr 30, 2019 6:21:21 PM | 139

"People ruined the thread AGAIN with their links! Do a PREVIEW DAMNIT."

What?! All I see are links. I click on them. They work. They look like typical URLs. What browser/phone are you using? Everything is PERFECTLY readable on my Windows 10/Chrome/Firefox setup.

Posted by: KC | Apr 30, 2019 6:21:25 PM | 140

Blitzer is hyper-ventilating over
Pompeo's statement that Maduro was ready
to flee Venezuela for Cuba and his plane
was already on the tarmac and the Russians talked
him out of it. Is this some kind of psy-ops
strategy? I mean if Venezuelans think Maduro's
bailing out; it makes Guaido's position much stronger.

What the heck is going on???

One OT note of importance: Trump is about to
officialy designate the Muslim Brotherhood a
terrorist organization. Is Trump sending Erdogan
a message with this or is it the finger?

And on another note, today, Rouhani signed a decree designating
CENTCOM a terrorist organization.

GOOD ON IRAN!😉

Iran should watch closely events in Venezuela and prepare
For the worst to come.


Posted by: Circe | Apr 30, 2019 6:29:41 PM | 141

@140
Don't gimme that!
Barovsky, James and Walter
posted long links that extended
the margins of the thread!

Posted by: Circe | Apr 30, 2019 6:35:43 PM | 142

@Jared #139: Agreed. But now they both can be arrested for the attempted coup instead of just Guydo for breaking his travelban. Leopoldo also broke his house arrest parole. Seems to me they waited for him to play his cards. Don't think anyone was expecting this sideshow. Guydo on a roundabout with 14 soldiers....whooptiedoo.

Posted by: Gehennah | Apr 30, 2019 6:36:41 PM | 143

I can't read the Spanish one, but the only one I see that went to the Chilean embassy was leopold. Not Guaido.
Also a bunch of traitor soldiers apparently are asking for asylum in the Brazilian embassy.

Posted by: arby | Apr 30, 2019 6:42:45 PM | 144

Posted by: Circe | Apr 30, 2019 6:35:43 PM | 142

Calm down Circe. The links look perfectly okay on my laptop, desktop and phone. Sounds like your device/software doesn't do word wraps and it's breaking the link into two so it won't work. Try copying them and pasting them into your browser.

Posted by: Barovsky | Apr 30, 2019 6:43:35 PM | 145

Te latest from RT:

Coup fizzles? Guaido’s mentor takes refuge in Chilean embassy as 25 military seek asylum in Brazil’s

This is for you Circe: https://on.rt.com/9tdt

Posted by: Barovsky | Apr 30, 2019 6:47:22 PM | 146

#16:
I agree totally.
To let these jokers continue to roam free seems to send the "wrong message" and possibly to encourage their followers to try more of the same. Seems to me it is time to arrest Guido and Lopez and "Assange" them. And state that that is the intention. Prepare charges of treason, and (unlike USA) publish the indictment.

That will give Guido followers something to think about . . .

Posted by: Really? | Apr 30, 2019 6:47:37 PM | 147

Lopez has fled to the Chilean embassy apparently - let's hope his incarceration there is as long as Julian Assange's was in the Ecuadorean embassy in London. Has anyone heard were Guaido is?

I hope Trump blames Pompeo, Bolton and Abrams for their utter failure and sacks them.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 30, 2019 6:47:53 PM | 148

@124 kadath.. i doubt it..

@137 gehennah... good idea!

circe - screen looks fine to me and a number of others here..

Posted by: james | Apr 30, 2019 6:55:22 PM | 149

At the risk of compounding the confusion over where Guaidó is, Chile Today relays an unconfirmed report that, indeed, he is in the Chilean embassy with López.

https://twitter.com/ChileTodayNews/status/1123321205048717312

Posted by: Emily Dickinson | Apr 30, 2019 6:59:15 PM | 150

It's starting to look like Circe has been Stuxnetted.

Posted by: arby | Apr 30, 2019 6:59:46 PM | 151

Maduro must arrest Guaido for trial because if he is reluctant to do so because of what the US might do he will have ceded sovereignty to the US. To follow Venezuelan law is to reinforce the country's sovereignty against the plots of foreign political gangsters trying to steal its assets.

Posted by: Michael McNulty | Apr 30, 2019 7:03:07 PM | 152

Random Guydo and Leopoldo seek refuge in Chilean embassy LINK

Posted by: Gehennah | Apr 30, 2019 6:19:12 PM | 137

Look carefully, only Leopoldo is mentioned. There has been no confirmation of Guaido in Chile's embassy so far from anywhere that I noticed.

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Apr 30, 2019 7:04:28 PM | 153

Barovsky, Circe’s beef is not about links not working, but about when someone posts too long a link, the width of the column goes from about 10 words wide to about 15-20, making the font size much smaller, which makes READING on a small tablet or phone agonizing on the eyes.

I hate it too, and sometimes I just give up, and decide I’ll come back tomorrow and read tomorrow’s column instead.

Circe, you are not alone !

Posted by: Featherless | Apr 30, 2019 7:07:25 PM | 154

I think that both Guaido and Lopez have crossed the redline of sedition and treason and liquidation would no longer be out of line.

Posted by: exiled off mainstreet | Apr 30, 2019 7:18:16 PM | 155

Maybe this was just a diversion of the main objective. I think all this was organized to release Leopoldo López, the real mastermind behind this Guaido guy. So López was illegally freed from house arrest and the minute he sees that this "operation" is a fiasco he runs with his wife and kid to the Embassy of Chile and now is asking for asylum.
This is very suspicious to me.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Venezuelan-Opposition-Leader-Leopoldo-Lopez-Seeks-Refuge-in-Chile-Embassy-20190430-0017.html

Posted by: Daniel | Apr 30, 2019 7:20:37 PM | 156

While Guaidó and Leopoldo López set up a show in Altamira, cheating their followers to hide in embassies, this is how the forceful chavismo responded in the Miraflores Palace. No pasarán! #30Abr

https://twitter.com/OrlenysOV/status/1123332589669036035

Couple of details: in the last 4 months the Venezuelan State dismantled a coup CIA brand (Garcia Palomo) and another international mercenary (Marrero). Both preventive actions weakened US intelligence and financing capabilities to make hit 30A successful.

https://twitter.com/williamserafino/status/1123356822012928000

While Leopoldo López flees to seek asylum in the Chilean embassy, Chavismo remains in Miraflores

https://twitter.com/Mision_Verdad/status/1123319020046966785

The President of the European Parliament ( Antonio Tajani ) supporting a coup d´etat. It is the most grotesque way of skipping the institutions that you owe to ALL and to all parliamentarians. This "gentleman" who praises Mussolini demonstrates the mood of those who support the Venezuelan coup plotters.

https://twitter.com/Caninator/status/1123185343845421057

Posted by: Sasha | Apr 30, 2019 7:23:38 PM | 157

#130 Circe,

this news about the Russians persuading Maduro not to flee to Cuba, is spread as well on French Media,and the google actualités page.It's Pompeo who claims to know the intents of Maduro. Nothing is said about Lopez seeking asylum within Chilean embassy though.

https://www.bfmtv.com/international/la-russie-a-dissuade-nicolas-maduro-de-quitter-le-venezuela-pour-trouver-refuge-a-cuba-1683267.html

Posted by: willie | Apr 30, 2019 7:24:07 PM | 158

What's the truth about the Pompeo spin that Maduro was ready to board a plane to Cuba but was talked out of it by the Russians?

Posted by: Jane | Apr 30, 2019 7:27:25 PM | 159

Canciller Ampuero: "Ninguno de los huéspedes (de la embajada chilena) ha solicitado asilo".

Take it with a grain of salt... it was the same TVN which according to Chile Today News claimed "Guaido has also entered the embassy" (linked above by Gehennah @137)

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Apr 30, 2019 7:30:11 PM | 160

@Vasco da Gama #153: Sorry for the mistake. I stand corrected. I had 2 links on twitter.
Link 1 Twitter (in dutch) to Agence Presse (French)
Link 2 Twitter (in English) link to Chilean FM.
None mention Guydo. I had that from earlier reports that he was among the 25 "soldiers" who got asylum in the brazilian embassy. I can find no mention of Guydo among them now on all official channels (brazilian authorities).

Posted by: Gehennah | Apr 30, 2019 7:33:09 PM | 161

Jane @159

"Maduro was ready to board a plane to Cuba but was talked out of it by the Russians."


Whew that story is ripe.

Posted by: arby | Apr 30, 2019 7:37:29 PM | 162

wait, so Mike "We lie, we cheat, we steal" Pompeo told Wolf "I don't question a damn thing" Blitzer that Maduro was on a plane ready to flee the country for Cuba like it was still the 1980s till those dastardly Russians told him to stay. I call 100%, made-in-America Bulls**t on this claim.

Posted by: Kadath | Apr 30, 2019 7:40:17 PM | 163

It is important at this point that Maduro should appear in public or at least make a recorded message and belie the claim that he is fleeing to Cuba. Pys-ops being employed by Pompeo et. al.

Posted by: Jane | Apr 30, 2019 7:43:29 PM | 164

reply to Petri Krohn 12
I think the video was shot in front of a blue screen.
twitter.com/jguaido/status/1123161692219686912

You're right! Look at the space between our random dude (RD) and the soldiers, if perspective still rules in Venezuela, RD lined up alongside the soldiers they would only come up to his shoulder.

Posted by: frances | Apr 30, 2019 7:57:08 PM | 165

>>>> Jane | Apr 30, 2019 7:27:25 PM | 159

What's the truth about the Pompeo spin that Maduro was ready to board a plane to Cuba but was talked out of it by the Russians?

None whatsoever. Pompeo spouting BS to cover for a disastrous failure of American foreign policy.

As the "coup" has ended up such a failure, I'm more and more certain that Lopez being broken out of house arrest was a Bolivaran black op - get the "coup" started prematurely so it goes of half cock and fails. Perhaps the Bolivarans got wind of a more brutal complex plot sometime in the future, maybe even today.

BTW, if the Venezuelan government wanted decent reliable muscle, there are 350,000 - 500,000 Lebanese-Venezuelans - a few thousand more Lebanese from the south would go largely unnoticed. But it looks like the VG doesn't really need muscle yet.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 30, 2019 8:03:02 PM | 166

Villains of the day: Random Guy, Pompeo, and nefarious band of willie, barovsky etc.

Pompeo is perhaps green with envy, why Boris Johnson should keep the mantle of the most clownish top diplomat of a major state? He can do better! But once the tall tale was said, it was duly echoed in supine media. NYT made a paragraph, and actually noted how Pompeo explained his alleged knowledge of Maduro preparing for departure: >>Pressed about the source of this information, Mr. Pompeo said it was drawn from “open-source material,” and conversations with “scores and scores of people on the ground,” including members of the military and opposition leaders. “He was headed for Havana,” he said of Mr. Maduro.<< The Guardian made a separate article on the topic, with no notes of caution, damn the torpedoes, copy with full speed!

So "people on the ground" could have reliable, ha ha, info on the conversations between Maduro and "Russians". "Scores of people" were interviewed, hm., seems that the wily Maduro eschew a usual step of information blockade, letting the little golpistas -- and him -- look silly. I actually do not believe in those "scores of interviews", Most generously, there were that many conversations from which his people could "draw" a rumor prepared ahead of time, probably by his own Department.

Finally, the nefarious long linkers. Is it really THAT hard to learn how to make neat links this one? Join lines and remove all spaces from the text below

< a href
= "https ://nationalinterest .org/
sites/ default/ files/ main_images/
Venezuela%20Protest.jpg">this one
< /a >?

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 30, 2019 8:04:39 PM | 167

Daniel @ 156:

I'm inclined to support your thinking, that the "coup" was staged to provide cover for Leopoldo Lopez's breaking of his house arrest conditions. Lopez was probably supposed to be President after Guaido's interim Presidency had ended.

Sad in a way to see Guaido being deserted by his so-called mentor and friends, and becoming an object of derision - and maybe a Nemtsov-style murder target - but he seems to have gone into this regime-change project all gung-ho and giving no thought to the risks and dangers he was putting himself, his wife and their young daughter into.

Posted by: Jen | Apr 30, 2019 8:05:13 PM | 168

How long until there is a succesful military coup in Brazil to reestablish a genuine Brazilian government? The generals there are probably tearing their hair out at "Bolzy & co." getting Brazil mixed up in the US crap against Venezuela. The Brazilian generals must be dreaming of getting Lula back to clean up things (whether or not some of the dirt is his own) and get the country back on track as a sovereign nation.

(Socialism? Meh. Treating all people decently and striving to enable all to reach their individual positive potential? Yes please. 100% support for Venezuela and Maduro.)

...

Somewhat OT but sooner or later someone should point it out:
The rifles are unlikely to be semi-automatic but instead fully automatic if they're actually military weapons rather than civilian versions of the same rifles (you can't make the distinction by the general look of a gun unless you can see the very fine details of the fire selector up close, a lot of rifles are made in both civilian market models as well as military models).

Semi-automatic only means that for each shot you have to pull the trigger once and then it loads the next shot automatically and if you want to fire another shot then you have to release and then again pull the trigger, but with fully automatic it will continue to fire as long as you hold the trigger down and there is still ammunition directly available to the weapon. Fully automatic is useful for some military purposes like laying down as much covering/suppressing fire as possible (defensively or offensively) and also for properly trained people who want to manually emulate "fire select" by using fully automatic and their training to only fire two or three shots at once by timing their release, which is what one would usually want to do in nearly all military fire fights.

Yes "journalists", politicians, and hoplophobes usually can't get any of this right (or have never heard about any of it) and unfortunately the lack of knowledge becomes common.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 30, 2019 8:28:19 PM | 169

Well, if nothing else it at least outed a few more corrupt shills for American imperialism embedded in the nation's military. Nice work by the "random one." You can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: Gary Weglarz | Apr 30, 2019 8:36:49 PM | 170

Guaido is more useful to the US dead than alive now. That’s not a good position to be in. Lopez did the smart thing running to the Chilean embassy. Guaido should follow him or he will end up dead (possibly via US hands) or in jail where he belongs.

Posted by: Alaric | Apr 30, 2019 9:02:35 PM | 171

"I call 100%, made-in-America Bulls**t on this claim."
Kadath @ 163

I agree. Remember when Erdogan was reported by NBC to be on a plane seeking asylum in the UK when the botched coup in Turkey was at its apparent high point?
This is a far less convincing effort than that one. It is all psy-ops to demoralize Maduro supporters.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Apr 30, 2019 9:09:46 PM | 172

interesting that Juan Guy-do-do’s shtick back on 23 January, declaring himself President and immediately being recognized as such by USA and its toadies, is an instant replay of the creation of the (illegal and immoral) State of Israel on 14 May 1948.
It took Truman all of 11 minutes to officially recognize the State of Israel after it declared itself a “State”. All the toadies piled on then as well.

A couple of refresher doco’s for anyone lonely tonight:
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised https://venezuelanalysis.com/video/2611
and, The War On Democracy https://vimeo.com/16724719

Posted by: Desolation Row | Apr 30, 2019 9:11:56 PM | 173

@ Really? #147

Seems to me it is time to arrest Guido and Lopez and "Assange" them.

We're thinking along the same lines, but I'd propose to reverse Assange them. Next time they have this guy they would haul him down to the US Embassy. If that place has no diplomats, push him inside, and close the door. If there are diplomats inside, build a high chain link enclosure outside opening only towards the embassy. Guards would block any other exit except towards the front door of that embassy. Dense barbed wire might be good blocks, and Tasers might work too. The internationally recognized President would have the option of staying outside in the sun and rain, or the very loving and caring American Embassy people could invite him inside to eat and sleep out of public view. A camping shower rig might be a way for the outside restroom stuff.

https://tinyurl.com/y2xshtw5

I've been wondering all day what President Puppet thinks he can gain from all this. A search set me to thinking some thoughts which may or may not be cockeyed.

Regime change in Iran and Venezuela: Is that the whole story?

The fact those two distant countries are mentioned in the same headline shows the author and I are on similar wavelengths.

Since President Donald Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal last year, the U.S. had been waiving sanctions on a list of major Iranian oil importers, including China, India, South Korea, Taiwan, and Turkey.

The intent of ending the waivers, Mr. Pompeo said, is to drive Iranian oil exports to zero.

Assume the little wag-the-dog nation south of Syria has ordered the Trumpies to bring Iran to its knees. As my link says, sanctions haven't worked. But there is another way to "drive Iranian oil exports to zero", and that's to smash Iran's oil infrastructure with bombs. But it seems to me that this would really aggravate friendly nations from the "oil shock" prices which would result. Those sky-high prices would also enrich Russia, and that's a definite no-no. Having the Venezuela oil industry in friendly hands before going "on to Iran" makes sense. Recall as well the sudden interest in getting the Libyan oil under Western control.

This theory may be wrong, but I'd bet a five dollar bill to a wooden nickel that Holy Israel is behind this, and the immediate target is Iran.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 30, 2019 9:26:50 PM | 174

@172 Activist Potato

So IOW, Pompeo used Blitzer as a useful idiot to spread
disinformation for psy-ops intended to demoralize Maduro's
supporters.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 30, 2019 9:30:13 PM | 175

American semi-automatic carabines AR-57 with silencers can be seen in the hands of heavily armed Guaido’s supporters in #Venezuela
Posted by: brian | Apr 30, 2019 6:11:59 PM | 135

Silencers?
My understanding is that silencers are really only effective on small arms with low muzzle-velocity (less than 1100 ft/sec.
Projectiles from high-powered weapons exit the muzzle at Mach 2 or 3 and the shock wave is impossible to silence.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 30, 2019 9:35:29 PM | 176

Make no mistake. This coup attempt is the work of the executive branch. Trump is not being held hostage to the deep state. Trump openly tweeted his support. Little Marco backs it too. If you voted for Trump you voted for this.

You are either for fascism or against it.

Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 30, 2019 9:36:23 PM | 177

@174 Zachary Smith
I was wondering if this timing was to get Venezuelan oil under US oontrol before China decides what to do about US sanctions on Iran. That said, Ghost Ship @166's theory makes the most sense to me.

Posted by: Schmoe | Apr 30, 2019 10:06:15 PM | 178

https://www.rt.com/news/458011-maduro-military-coup-defeated/

Maduro speaks.

I agree that this was partly about getting Leopuold out (the man looks like an insane bad guy from an 80's action movie). Guiado has better survival chances if he turns himself in to the VZ gov. The next move from neocon Don and his band of psychopaths is Blackwater types doing some Maidan sniping.

Posted by: Sorghum | Apr 30, 2019 10:23:16 PM | 179

According to telleSur - Lopez has moved from the chilean embassy to the spanish embassy. The chileno spokesperson explained that they had "other guests." Hmmm. Maybe chile gov had second thoughts about being that supportive. Interesting to speculate about why Lopez moved. Hs family is stated to be "of spanish decent." It does seem that Guido is just the chump fall guy for the moment. It's also interesting that the 'murkan democrat pols who were so set on impeaching Trump are now falling in line backing the coup.

Posted by: Miss Lacy | Apr 30, 2019 10:23:40 PM | 180

@Circe:

I'm not following this link thing. The margins on the thread are of a fixed character/space limit on my browser. If a link extends beyond that it simply continues on the next line down just like regular text, except of course it's underlined and in red.

What am I missing? What browsers are those complaining about the links using?

Posted by: KC | Apr 30, 2019 10:24:42 PM | 181

My impression from this "coup" is that Venezuelans are good natured people who are to polite to wage a revolution. At the very least this describes the middle class that "rose against the dictatorship", and to some degree, the government too.

Example: one of the video showed protesters carrying cubicle partitions. A modern light weight version of barricades?

Example: video showing pro-Guaido soldiers shooting toward "government soldiers". Yet, they clearly aim at the sky, perhaps after checking already that they will not hurt any birds in the process.

Example: video of pro-Guaido demonstration, plenty of personal space for all, young (or not THAT young) women busy making selfies.

Example: video of the "most violent moment", armored vehicles ramming the jaywalking protesters. Yet they drive sufficiently slowly to let all of them escape, except for grazing one slow-poke. Jaywalking is of course against the law, but is it a rather tame activity, soccer ultras would at the very least use flares, and more grizzly protesters would come with Molotov cocktails. French authorities could only wish to have such good manners among Yellow Jackets.

Example: Leopoldo who fled his detention got asylum in Chilean embassy, together with his wife and daughter. Unfortunately, the embassy became too crowded. No worry! After few phone calls, they moved to Spanish Embassy 4 miles away, presumably by taxi. This is a tyrannical government. Compare with an efficient way Assange was bottled in tiny Ecuadorian embassy with no option to go to a more spacious Australian High Commission or the Russian embassy. Democracy --> efficiency, tyranny --> enemies of the state walk or take taxi wherever they want.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 30, 2019 10:29:43 PM | 182

Now I'm really curious about this link thing....why do links affect the column width differently than regular text on whatever browser is being used? If a tablet or phone, isn't there some kind of setting to prevent the rendering in an annoying way? Seems like a very strange problem to have in 2019 and I'm just struggling to picture what's being talked about. I don't have this issue on my phone or laptop.

Posted by: KC | Apr 30, 2019 10:40:24 PM | 183

KC, I’m guessing that’s up to the programming of this website.

I use Safari on my ipad mini, and the long links mess up the column width, and the writing becomes much smaller.
I guess I should try other browsers, and see if that helps.

Posted by: Featherless | Apr 30, 2019 10:44:05 PM | 184

KC, Read @154 Featherless!

Why can't people use html codes to post a long link? Why can't people check their link on preview to see if it appears beyond the normal column/margin? Don't be lazy. Check first! Don't ruin the thread.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 30, 2019 10:51:30 PM | 185

step whatever... the usa is one sick puppy...

US prohibits American pilots and planes to fly in Venezuelan airspace

Posted by: james | Apr 30, 2019 11:23:44 PM | 186

Venezuela thing is "universally" important: it concerns the petro-currency, the U.S. dollar. if the Yankees fail, their habit to live at the expense of the rest of Humanity will die out gradually, likewise their "American Way of Life". so they will stick to it, " by hook or by the crook".

Posted by: nietzsche1510 | Apr 30, 2019 11:36:34 PM | 187

Here's some backstory on Lopez, who attended Kenyon college as an undergrad. His college buddies think he's aces, which is no surprise, but what is really interesting are the innocuous quotes which now seem cartoonish:

In September, just as Venezuelan President Maduro arrived in New York for a high-profile United Nations climate summit, the New York Times editorial board called the López trial a “travesty” and labeled Maduro’s efforts to silence opposition leaders “deplorable.” President Barack Obama called for López’s release while speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative during the summit.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/former-u-s-classmates-rally-for-jailed-venezuelan-opposition-leader-leopoldo-lopez

https://bulletin.kenyon.edu/feature/the-fight-to-free-leo/

Posted by: Roy G | Apr 30, 2019 11:45:07 PM | 188

Russia, who has studied US cops and color revolutions and the methods to counter them, sent in a team some time back. Guaido, rather than being some sort of US revolutionary, is being left in place to play the clown - the laughing stock. His handlers must be tearing their hair out with every move they make being turned into a comedy.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 1, 2019 12:03:46 AM | 189

Russia, who has studied US coups...

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 1, 2019 12:11:00 AM | 190

@ Desolation Row | Apr 30, 2019 9:11:56 PM | 173

apparently The Revolution Will Not Be Televised https://venezuelanalysis.com/video/2611 has now been blocked by youtube @ venezuelanalysis.com (This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated.)

it was previously blocked on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id--ZFtjR5c

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised is now accessible here: https://vimeo.com/171028836 posted by Kim Bartly, one of the film-makers. Share and/or download while this piece of history is still available!

The link for The War On Democracy https://vimeo.com/16724719 is still functional… should have checked both before posting, sorry ‘bout that.

Posted by: Desolation Row | May 1, 2019 12:17:24 AM | 191

Time Magazine describes confusion:

".. the Trump administration was caught slightly off-guard by Guaido’s decision to launch the campaign on Tuesday. Elliott Abrams, the special representative for Venezuela, said the administration had expected major marches and protests to take place on Wednesday for the May Day holiday.

At some point after that, Abrams said, U.S. officials had been led to believe that the chief judge of Venezuela’s Supreme Court, the defense minister and the chief of the presidential guard would declare their support for the constitution and, by extension, renounce Maduro’s leadership. Abrams said U.S. officials believed such a step would galvanize public support for Guaido."

A few times now, since January, the Americans have assumed the veracity of apparently bad intelligence.

http://time.com/5580763/trump-threatens-cuba-troops-venezuela/

Posted by: jayc | May 1, 2019 12:23:00 AM | 192

That Time article. One wonders if the Russians are feeding them this stuff.

Over and over again the US gets trapped in its own wishful thinking about what the Venezuelan people support. Which is a prime opportunity for disinformation.

Posted by: Cesare | May 1, 2019 12:31:26 AM | 193

Here is another vote for people using html tags to make links. Why not simply delete comments that do not use the proper format? Anyone who reads on a cellohone should realise exploded margins due to inconsiderate and/or ignorant posters who simply cut and paste long URL addresses makes the comments unreadable.

What, are you working for the CIA? Lol. See HTML Tags upper right above the comment box and get a clue please. If you have no idea what this means and you post links dimply by copy/pasting the URL address then you are guilty as charged and should be banned. You are the real troll. J/k. But you are ignorant as well as inconsiderate of others.

Posted by: donkeytale | May 1, 2019 1:04:20 AM | 194

NYT wrote a eulogy for the "revolutionary attempt""

Venezuelan Opposition Leader Steps Up Pressure, but Maduro Holds On

After Juan Guaidó said rebellion was at hand, supporters clashed with loyalists to President Nicolás Maduro.
Yet at the end of the day, Mr. Guaidó fell short of toppling the president, who has relied on force, intimidation and discredited elections to remain in power.

Inaccurate here and there, but it is a coda. Attempt number one was sheer shock of the "rightful President" emerging to save long suffering population in thirst of deliverance. Nope. The second was to give masses a more realistic hope in the form of "tons of humanitarian aid" (was it an ounce per a Venezuelan?). Nope. Then came a collapse of electricity. But the power was restored -- no surprise. Now everybody who is decent, law loving and patriotic AND a member of armed forces was skillfully mobilized, but this valiant band of 30 (?) could not do much.

One has to admit that every month something happens, but this time was really underwhelming. A revolution starts at dawn and peters out by afternoon? Perhaps in time to watch telenovelas in the evening? With action restricted to a smallish neighborhood, and the number of victims at part with end of classes in an American university on the same day?

Is this the twilight of Empire? The way I see it, Albania would manage to destabilize a neighboring country more effectively (well, the DID manage). With outsourcing, the design of foreign action is outsourced to private contractors who are good at filing convincing quarterly reports, but someone with brain not wracked by senility has to evaluate those plans. A creep Abrams was wrecking havoc in central America nearly 40 years ago, but then played "Israel Firster" for decades, an activity that poses risks of mental disorders. Is he able to understand that putting Venezuelan low lifes under control requires different tools than in Israel and Central America.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 1, 2019 1:14:51 AM | 195

Hey DNCytale, your side is all for overthrowing VZ as well. It’s the only way you feel you can cushion the wests’ fall toward WW3, before the actual repurposing of Iran. Wet dream version. And fck if I know why you’d care so much since you’re about to die and I can’t imagine you’ve created any worthwhile progeny vis a vis your decades long troll career. And
I’ve said this before but, your poor wife.

Posted by: Sejomoje | May 1, 2019 1:16:55 AM | 196

michaelj72 @125
Zachary Smith @174,


The FAIR survey shows that Operation Mockingbird has been dialed to 10 on Venezuela, which in turn shows that the US State is desperate to effect this coup as quickly as possible--and possibly too quickly for efficient operational success. Why the rush?

The 2020 election is only 500 or so days away. If Trump does not sufficiently escalate hostilities with Iran-either directly or, what is more likely, indirectly with an attack on Hezbollah--before that time, there is a chance that he won't be re-elected and Netanyahoo will lose his orange golem of destruction. So there is need for haste there.

But it seems that the Pentagon has informed Trump that escalating with Iran/Hezbollah will immediately lead to a global drop-off in the oil supply with devastating economic repercussions for all involved; and this would not bode well for Trump's re-election, as b has noted. Hence it is imperative that the US secure additional crude supplies before escalating with Iran/Hezbollah and this can only be
accomplished by capturing Venezuela's crude reservoirs.

So it is imperative to accomplish the coup ASAP. So that Iran or Hezbollah in Lebanon can be engaged before the election, thereby giving Israel what it wants and increasing Trump's chances of re-election. Elijah Magnier reports that Nasrallah thinks a big war in Lebanon is very likely this summer, which will involve the attempted decimation of Hezbollah in Lebanon by Israel, US, and (possibly) the UK.

But maybe--just maybe--this is all just a little too ambitious for the declining empire to pull off in the narrow timeframe allotted for it, and maybe the necessity of rushing the Venezuelan coup is working against the ability of the US to successfully achieve it.

The way the coup is being handled by the US in Venezuela convinces me that Israel is planning a big summer war with Hezbollah and that the US will be the main military actor in that war.

Posted by: WJ | May 1, 2019 1:17:59 AM | 197

Embarrassing, even by normal US standards. Laughable, in fact. The rest of the world must be ROTFLMFAO, or at least LOL'ing. To use the idiot language du jour.

Posted by: cdvision | May 1, 2019 1:32:42 AM | 198

Originally Guaido was calling for a mass May 1st demo countrywide. It appears this mobilisation wasnt going too well. Bare in mind the government had planned mass Workers Day rallies on May 1st and the likelyhood is that they WILL be well attended. So, i am left to conclude that this coup attempt was a final all-in gamble before the May day rallies which will consolidatw maduros position. The failure wd have been considered and relevant embassies notified about possible asylum seekers, post coup attempt. Guaido will not be seen in the country again i think. Part of the failure plan was also to get Lopez out too.

Posted by: Hermius | May 1, 2019 1:33:09 AM | 199

donkeytale #194

I NEVER get fragmentation with MOA on my tablet, phone (not apple) or PC (windows + linux). I never get fragmentation on my imac. I have published the odd long link here and it flowed smoothly.

I NEVER use safari as it is junk. I trust we are not pandering to lowest common denominator for problem resolution here.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | May 1, 2019 2:56:13 AM | 200

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