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April 17, 2019
Open Thread 2019-22
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…sensitive computer this morning…In which I would point to the sentence: Posted by: juliania | Apr 18 2019 14:12 utc | 101 Interesting opinion on interesting news site: Posted by: jared | Apr 18 2019 14:13 utc | 102 Russia banning oil, petroleum product, coal exports to Ukraine – Medvedev Posted by: TJ | Apr 18 2019 14:20 utc | 103 @97 Hoarsewhisperer Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 14:22 utc | 104 Posted by: vk | Apr 18, 2019 9:59:42 AM | 98 Posted by: somebody | Apr 18 2019 14:23 utc | 105 Add to 80
Posted by: somebody | Apr 18 2019 14:41 utc | 106 Further to the issue of bankers that I brought up on the previous page, this from an article entitled “Embedded Internationalism” by David Adler at nakedcapitalism.com this morning dovetails nicely with that: Posted by: juliania | Apr 18 2019 14:45 utc | 107 Speaking of Trump tools… Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 15:15 utc | 108 @ Posted by: somebody | Apr 18, 2019 10:23:03 AM | 106 Mueller Concluded Congress Can Determine Trump Obstruction Posted by: TJ | Apr 18 2019 15:24 utc | 110 This is important and speaks to the real manipulation of the 2016 Presidential election: How Has Former MI6 Spymaster Richard Dearlove Dodged Scrutiny Despite Links To Russiagate?
Lastly, given the above, isn’t it curious that Trump himself happened to further Russiagate suspicions and the Wikileaks sting by: hiring Manafort, appealing to Wikileaks and Russia to release emails, frequently praising Putin? Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 18 2019 15:29 utc | 111 circe 109 Can’t agree with former President Jimmy Carter who said the US had spent 3 Trillion dollars on defence spending, several prominent economists at the Harvard Law School have estimated that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars costs, including long term costs for those injured amount to 6 Trillion dollars. Posted by: Harry Law | Apr 18 2019 15:32 utc | 113 … Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 18 2019 15:44 utc | 114 Fitton on Mueller Special Counsel: Who was Leaking to the Media? Posted by: TJ | Apr 18 2019 15:51 utc | 115 @ dh #100 Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 18 2019 15:53 utc | 116 @ farm ecologist #61
It worked! I’d suppose Omidyar has not suffered any financial distress on account of his playing St. George in slaying the Snowden Dragon. Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 18 2019 16:08 utc | 117 I see the Trump whitewash committee is here in full force. Of course I’m not surprised, but at this stage only the beneficiaries of Trump’s Neocon gifts, i.e. Zionists, and ignorant imbeciles are still defending him. So, I’ll assume you’all fall into the former category since I’m trying very hard not to insult your intelligence. Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 16:10 utc | 118 Russ, Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 16:17 utc | 119 Circe the enchantress shilling for Sanders. Will we endure 18 months of this crap? Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 18 2019 16:50 utc | 120 @ Zachary Smith 118 Posted by: farm ecologist | Apr 18 2019 17:00 utc | 121 Hoarsewhisperer leaves out the inconvenient fact that Trump’s campaign indirectly through the RNC and directly with the inauguration was financed by millions and millions in Zionist money. Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 17:26 utc | 122 Posted by: Circe | Apr 18, 2019 12:17:57 PM | 120 Posted by: farm ecologist | Apr 18, 2019 1:00:48 PM | 122 In #125 I meant other possibilities besides voting, besides theological belief and faith in electoralism, surrendering oneself to system “elections”, defining one’s life according to one’s fandom for elections. The Elijah Magnier site has a second article about Trump’s “Deal of the Century”.
Lying, murderous thieves. God sure knows how to pick his most favorite humans, doesn’t he? Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 18 2019 17:50 utc | 126 I’m with Circe, Posted by: Mark 2 | Apr 18 2019 17:51 utc | 127 Thx @ somebody for the info and also for the Wikileaks genesis story, I didn’t know. Posted by: wisdombody@gmx.de | Apr 18 2019 18:06 utc | 128 ADKC @ 28. Richard Hall had done Jo Cox, interesting, thx, I will look. You no doubt know about his M. McCann series – which are v. convincing but BS.. and I can almost ‘prove’ it, meaning only ! 🙂 put forward a highly convincing argument. I have long wondered who killed Jo Cox. (see Brian Cox and his dodgy activities.. nasty murk ..) Posted by: Noirette | Apr 18 2019 18:08 utc | 129 F. Fillon, a standard ‘Les Républicains’ candidate who was supposed to win the F presidency, as a replacement for A. Juppé, was brought down by PenelopeGate. (Who did that I again won’t speculate about.) Posted by: Noirette | Apr 18 2019 18:25 utc | 130 In case the point wasn’t clear, at 131, we are hovering here around criminal and totally corrupt networks, removed from what one might imagine an ‘elected’ official, even at a local level, would touch with a ten-foot pole. Posted by: Noirette | Apr 18 2019 18:37 utc | 131 =/ In the long run, strategic voting is a dead end that only perpetuates the problem. I have promised myself to stop doing it. /= (farm ecologist / 1:00:48 PM / 122) Thanks, Zachary, for the two Magnier articles. Posted by: Bart Hansen | Apr 18 2019 19:28 utc | 133 Posted by: Noirette | Apr 18, 2019 2:25:14 PM | 131 Posted by: Laguerre | Apr 18 2019 19:29 utc | 134 One of the Magnier pieces refers to an article by a State Dept advisor to Pompeo – Posted by: Bart Hansen | Apr 18 2019 19:40 utc | 135 re my 135. Posted by: Laguerre | Apr 18 2019 19:47 utc | 137 Harvey Weinstein’s Attorney Accused of Sex Trafficking Kids for Jeffery Epstein Posted by: Thakanat al-Maadi | Apr 18 2019 21:06 utc | 138 Laguerre @ 135, 138: Posted by: Jen | Apr 18 2019 21:47 utc | 139 First I’ve seen about this upcoming event–“Iraq once again bringing neighbouring countries together”: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 18 2019 22:33 utc | 140 Noirette, Laguerre Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 18 2019 22:39 utc | 141 @135 laguerre – you might be right macron hasn’t done anything much different then the previous lot, but when (rome), or the notre dame is burning, it calls for something more! he is just another cheap suit that serves the 1%… clearly the french people are not going to take it – thus the yellow jackets.. kudos to them.. i do tend to see it like noirette as well here.. it isn’t just in france either, although france might be a bit of a canary in a coal mine here, leading the way.. the malaise in the uk, usa, and etc. etc. is very palatable… business as usual can’t continue.. Posted by: james | Apr 18 2019 22:51 utc | 142 Imran Khan has a curious if somewhat cryptic (when machine translated from Urdu to English) tweet followed by a poster with a picture presumably of the citation’s reciter, Fredric Bastiat, a French political-economist who wrote a seminal text La Loi [The Law]. Khan’s tweet: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 18 2019 23:19 utc | 143 @144 karlof1… after reading imran khans personal biography – one comes away with a sense the guy has his head and heart in the right place… so far, all i have seen of him on the world stage has been positive.. i really wish the best for him and think if anyone can change pakistan for the better, it is him.. book title is Pakistan: A Personal History.. anyone interested in knowing more about him would do well to start with this book.. Posted by: james | Apr 18 2019 23:40 utc | 144 Circe, Posted by: oo goo gachoo | Apr 19 2019 0:35 utc | 145 The reasons why Americans voted for a candidate must matter, the policies the American people wanted must matter. Posted by: ADKC | Apr 19 2019 1:02 utc | 146 ADKC @147– Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 19 2019 1:26 utc | 147 @147 adkc.. i agree with you.. people in the usa voted for trump, as he said he wanted to be friends with russia and he wanted to stop all the wars.. he also said some harsh stuff about ksa beforehand too… i may not be recalling everything he said, but he has proven to be a lying son of a bitch who is in bed with israel and the war party 24/7… that much is clear.. the words didn’t match the actions… the problem for the usa voting public if finding someone who isn’t a liar – trump, and who isn’t some bullshit con – most all of them have been to this point in time, trump included.. Posted by: james | Apr 19 2019 1:47 utc | 148 Can you believe that Pete Buttigieg, the foil for Trump, surged 15 points in one month? He now has 17% of the vote to Bernie’s 20% and Biden’s 21%. This is very suspect. Posted by: Circe | Apr 19 2019 3:24 utc | 149 Re 150 Circe, Posted by: Kadath | Apr 19 2019 4:04 utc | 150 Here is a new article about the Boeing 737-MAX.
Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 19 2019 5:12 utc | 151 The EU allows and justifies “dual quality” goods. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 19 2019 5:20 utc | 152 Noirette Posted by: Mina | Apr 19 2019 7:41 utc | 153 ADKC | Apr 18, 2019 9:02:36 PM | 147 Laguerre @ 135, the Center-Left (Socialists) under Hollande were neo-liberal, oh yes, we agree, I suppose? Valls! and the Loi El Khomri! Posted by: Noirette | Apr 19 2019 14:54 utc | 155 Anyone know what Malta’s airspace looks like? Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Apr 19 2019 15:25 utc | 156 Ref: centre’s fascism (Noirette) Posted by: Mina | Apr 19 2019 17:13 utc | 158 The Sudanese and the Algerians have shown a remarkable courage lately with their sit-in and protests. What makes the whole situation a momentum is that we are two weeks from the beginning of Ramadan and no military state calling itself “Muslim” can afford a bloodbath. If a bloodbath occurs, further protests will blaze all over the Muslim world. Posted by: Mina | Apr 19 2019 17:17 utc | 159 Russ @147 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 19 2019 18:08 utc | 160 “China’s road to a win-win ahead of BRI forum” is Pepe Escobar’s latest recap on BRI progress which continues apace despite Outlaw US Empire projection cloaked as warning: “… that the New Silk Roads, or the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), are a perfidious neo-imperial debt trap set up by Yellow Peril 2.0 are vastly exaggerated.” The recap links to a 17+1 statement that immediately puts forth its opposition to Outlaw US Empire behavior: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 19 2019 18:22 utc | 161 Huge demos today in Algeria Posted by: Mina | Apr 19 2019 18:44 utc | 162 ADKC
———— Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 19 2019 18:52 utc | 163 Jackrabbit @164 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 19 2019 19:20 utc | 164 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 19, 2019 2:08:52 PM | 161 After the failure of the April 10-11 Moon-Trump Summit, DPRK’s Kim lost no time in urging Moon and RoK to further distance themselves from the Outlaw US Empire so the task at hand can be concentrated upon: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 19 2019 20:17 utc | 166 ADKC: I did say that, until something else emerges …
Here is electoralism at work:
Same shit, different day, in the land of the free to be bamboozled. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 19 2019 20:35 utc | 167 @ Christian J Chuba | 38 on buying gold Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Apr 19 2019 20:41 utc | 168 Jackrabbit @168 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 19 2019 21:14 utc | 169 ADKC Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 19 2019 21:42 utc | 170 Wow! UK newspapers finally start telling truth about Corbyn instead of beating about the bush with lies. Torygraph: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 19 2019 22:56 utc | 171 Here’s video from the recent Moon of Alabama – Naked Capitalism Meet-Up in New York City on the same day when President Trump signed a proclamation officially granting US recognition of Israel’s claim over the Golan Heights, reversing decades of American policy regarding the disputed territory between Israel and Syria. Posted by: anon777 | Apr 19 2019 23:44 utc | 172 Something for barflies to do over the weekend, watch Empire and Economics: The Long History of Debt-Cancelation from Antiquity to Today a 2 hour long in-depth discussion with “Dr. Michael Hudson, New Testament Scholar Dr. Aliou Niang and Rev. Dr. Liz Theoharis, Biblical Scholar and co-chair of the Poor People’s Campaign: A National Call for Moral Revival, for a discussion on the history of debt and what it means for our context today. Moderated by Shailly Gupta Barnes and the Kairos Center for Religions, Rights and Social Justice.” Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 20 2019 0:58 utc | 173 jack Rabbit @ 171 Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 20 2019 4:53 utc | 174 Below is a posting at Xinhuanet about Korea Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 20 2019 5:07 utc | 175 donkeytale @175 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 20 2019 5:25 utc | 176 thecelticwithinme asked:
I do not know enough about this but I have taken a screenshot of ICAO FIR WORLD where the blue lines delineate FIRs and you can see FIR MALTA LMMM which is controlled by Malta (or the US it would seem :P). The green lines delineate the median lines between the exclusive economic zones. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 20 2019 5:58 utc | 177 And also I have no idea how long that screenshot will remain available there (it’s a guest account or some such), I have never used the place before. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 20 2019 6:01 utc | 178 Also while this can be done at the ICAO FIR GIS thing it’s sort of messy so instead one can take a look at this easily linkable map result showing the Maltese territorial seas in red. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 20 2019 6:24 utc | 179 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 19, 2019 2:08:52 PM | 161 Mina, I did watch the Todd and Gauchet conf. Posted by: Noirette | Apr 20 2019 13:56 utc | 181 JR why don’t you be honest…it is you who don’t want to discuss and shut down any discussion. You provide zero evidence for Bernie being Hillary’s sheepdog whatever that means. Still, I understand why you don’t wish to discuss and want to shut down the discussion or limit it so narrowly to collusion with Russia. Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 20 2019 15:09 utc | 182 donkey Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 20 2019 16:24 utc | 183 |
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