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April 17, 2019
Open Thread 2019-22
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Reposting from other thread: Posted by: WJ | Apr 17 2019 17:12 utc | 1 Tyler Durden reports “World Trade Suffers Biggest Collapse Since Financial Crisis,” with the first graph showing a downturn almost in freefall the slope’s so steep. Since the dollar is still used in @60-80% of global trade exchanges, Trump’s Trade War is having a suicidal affect on the dollar recycling required to prop up the dollar. In contrast, Russia continues to report increasing trade turnover with its partners, meaning it’s being strengthened by Trump’s Trade War. Congress and Deep State had cut off the usual avenues for POTUS conduct of foreign policy, but were unable to stop Trump’s Trade War and further executive-based illegal unilateral sanctions that are also harming Outlaw US Empire-based corporations. The bottomline result is a rapid and massive rise in debt that feeds the Money Power. The domestic affects of Trump’s actions are only now beginning to be seen, and they aren’t positive. Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2019 17:40 utc | 2 I was wondering if Trump could be convinced to sign the legislation ending exports of weapon and military services to the invaders of Yemen. Getting pictures of dead children, starved children, sick children, wounded children is not a problem. But what about ducks? Google search gives hits like that Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 17 2019 18:07 utc | 3 @piotr – missing headline is ‘trump blames russia for dead ducks’, (thanks haspals propaganda pics).. Posted by: james | Apr 17 2019 18:14 utc | 4 Undaunted, Kit Klarenberg provides further Skripal update in an extensively detailed article that moves him to conclude: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2019 18:19 utc | 5 @ WJ #1
They’re putting out the story about sending “stuff” to Lebanon, so when future cargo airplanes land the natural assumption will be it’s more of the same old cast-off material we typically dump on third-rank ‘allies’. Not necessarily. Future crates could contain state-of-the-art supplies like was sent to ISIS in Syria. Since there are an awful lot of unemployed ISIS fighters these days, a big fork-lift might also unload crates of safely packed ISIS men to carry into the warehouse out of sight.
This is a win/win for Trump. He gets Zionist money, applause from the likes of Shiff and Pelosi, and he imagines it’ll all look great in tomorrow’s history books. MIGA – “Make Israel Great Again”, and right alongside his MAGA crap. Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 17 2019 18:30 utc | 6 If you can handle it, Partisangirl thread about what Zionists did to the Tamimi family. I should note this is but one of many thousands of similar outrages to occur during Zionistan’s genocidal rampage. Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2019 18:38 utc | 7 Next month’s EUP elections are prompting some interesting coalitions. Trade Unions Against EU’s election slogan is at this link. Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2019 19:02 utc | 8 Okay, I can get behind this, Show Racism the Red Card Day is this Friday. Note the first thread comment’s made by a racist. Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2019 19:11 utc | 9 China is interfering with the American 2020 elections already [sarcasm]: In other news, Japan continues to deteriorate: Zachary Smith @6:
Perhaps armchair analysts at MoA will now look at the Trump’s decision to ‘pull out’ of Syria with a more skeptical eye. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 17 2019 19:25 utc | 12 From Judicial Watch Posted by: TJ | Apr 17 2019 19:29 utc | 13 Oh dear oh dear.. Posted by: S.O. | Apr 17 2019 19:34 utc | 14 AOC invokes the Class Card, something many here thought she’d never do: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2019 19:38 utc | 15 S.O. @14– Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2019 19:51 utc | 17 Jackrabbit @12, Posted by: WJ | Apr 17 2019 19:59 utc | 18 @17 Cont’d– Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2019 20:01 utc | 19 @1 WJ Posted by: TJ | Apr 17 2019 20:04 utc | 20 Not only are they invisible… Posted by: farm ecologist | Apr 17 2019 20:13 utc | 21 Hehe, yet more Trumpshet for Trump whitewashers here to clean up.
Trump lets americans sue cuban companies Posted by: Circe | Apr 17 2019 20:13 utc | 22 Ramin Mazaheri has published the 4th part of his 8-part series on China’s Cultural Revolution on the same day that b calls an Open Thread. Coincidence? Yes, and handy for me to post a link while the copy is still warm.
Posted by: Grieved | Apr 17 2019 20:17 utc | 23 There are stories emerging about a massacre committed by Government mercenaries in La Saline, Haiti (around 80 killings but possibly much more). The massacre occurred in November 2018. Posted by: ADKC | Apr 17 2019 20:21 utc | 24 Relative to my @2, Prof Richard Wolff linked to this AXIOS Newsletter via tweet with points 1,3 and 5 buttressing my point about the US Dollar and its economic health due to Trump’s Trade War. Prof Wolff’s thoughts he tweeted: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2019 20:23 utc | 25 WJ Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 17 2019 20:24 utc | 26 Forgot to add that bully, spoiled shetdisturber baby Trump with his vindictive reinstatement of Helms Burton will also hurt Canadian and Spanish companies doing business in Cuba which are now also exposed to multi-million dollar lawsuits. Posted by: Circe | Apr 17 2019 20:31 utc | 27 The murder of Jo Cox Posted by: ADKC | Apr 17 2019 20:38 utc | 28 “The 1996 Helms-Burton Act gave Americans the right to sue companies profiting from properties confiscated by Cuba.” Posted by: bevin | Apr 17 2019 21:15 utc | 29 Who are these idiots, Posted by: Taffyboy | Apr 17 2019 21:21 utc | 30 JoeG @30– Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2019 21:56 utc | 31 Trump is losing all his marbles! He rushed to send his NK envoy to Russia because there are rumours Putin will hold a summit with Kim and maybe try to steal Trump’s thunder. Posted by: Circe | Apr 17 2019 22:19 utc | 32 Karlof1 @ 66 (previous thread) Posted by: Jen | Apr 17 2019 22:32 utc | 33 Thank you karlof1 #8, George Galloway has played an interesting hand here and yet I gather it is a very strategic move to block the Blairite Labor gang from the EU parliament and enable the Brexit Party to shatter the Tories. At least that seems to be the strategy. Plus it creates an entire pseudo referendum on Brexit (unless some left group is drawn together to split that single focus which I doubt. The twitter feed you linked was good solid debate accompanied by the occasional rabid dribblings. George said loud and clear last week that he had now decided not to run so that clears him to continue broadcasting. I am looking forward to the next TalkRadio sessions by George Galloway. Posted by: uncle tungsten | Apr 17 2019 22:32 utc | 34 @ karlof1 #2 Posted by: Michael Droy | Apr 17 2019 23:12 utc | 35 Upper middle class feeling the pinch too. The economy is headed for the dumps Posted by: Mboy | Apr 17 2019 23:18 utc | 36 OT: Buying Gold Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Apr 17 2019 23:22 utc | 37 @ christian – find a place like this in some city close by to where you live – it will be easier in person and avoid shipping and insurance costs.. Posted by: james | Apr 17 2019 23:30 utc | 38 Open Thread
Lawfare. Those “mopey dunderheads” have unlimited money, and both the US political parties seem determined to give them everything they want to continue their “lawfare”. A great many states (including Indiana) already make it illegal to participate in BDS. The US congress really, really wants to bankrupt US citizens before sending them to prison for many years. All for the “crime” of protesting against the thefts and murders by God’s Favorite People. Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 17 2019 23:32 utc | 39 Posted by: snake | Apr 17 2019 23:36 utc | 40 Chinahand on Outlaw US Empire meddling in upcoming Taiwan election: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2019 23:51 utc | 41 @28 Bevin Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 0:03 utc | 42 Jen @33, Uncle Tungsten @34 and Michael Droy @35– Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 18 2019 0:03 utc | 43 @ snake #40
The Rational Wiki site says this about CE: “Collective-Evolution is a woo-mongering clickbait website.” I happen to agree that 5g is shaping up as a giant health and environmental problem, but with friends like this, who needs enemies? And yes, I had to click on “woo” to find what the hades they were talking about.
Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 18 2019 0:30 utc | 44 Zachary Smith | Apr 17, 2019 7:32:48 PM | 39 Posted by: Desolation Row | Apr 18 2019 0:35 utc | 45 @ Christian J Chuba #37 Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 18 2019 1:11 utc | 46 Sourpuss Trump was royally pissed at Fox News for hosting Bernie in a town hall that was a ratings smash, and get this–Trump welcomes running against (the Demfoil) Pete Buttigeek! Well of course he wants it to be the political neophyte gay guy that’s in it to cakewalk Trump back to the White House! Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 1:45 utc | 47 @29 Taffyboy, txs for the Orlov interview link. A great read from a great mind.. Posted by: Lozoon | Apr 18 2019 1:59 utc | 48 @ Circe #47 Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 18 2019 2:12 utc | 49 @ Christian J Chuba | Apr 17, 2019 7:22:58 PM | 37 Posted by: Hmpf | Apr 18 2019 2:29 utc | 50 All the dirt on the ground is mostly due to those who, because of political correctness, are called “Zionists.” Posted by: truth seeker | Apr 18 2019 2:48 utc | 51 Jen @33 was that the ‘Piggygate’ club? I’ve no doubt BoJo would go whole hog! Posted by: Roy G | Apr 18 2019 2:55 utc | 52 @39 Posted by: farm ecologist | Apr 18 2019 3:16 utc | 53 Posted by: Jen | Apr 17, 2019 6:32:06 PM | 33 Posted by: John Smith | Apr 18 2019 3:21 utc | 54 @8 karlof1 Posted by: Grieved | Apr 18 2019 3:53 utc | 55 @49 Zachary Smith Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 4:18 utc | 56 To aspnaz in an old thread: Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 18 2019 4:23 utc | 57 REALITY CHECK Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 18 2019 4:38 utc | 58 @ Jackrabbit #58 Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 18 2019 4:58 utc | 59 @58, 59 Posted by: farm ecologist | Apr 18 2019 5:21 utc | 60 Grieved @55– Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 18 2019 5:26 utc | 61 @61 karlof1 Posted by: Grieved | Apr 18 2019 5:59 utc | 62 Grieved @62– Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 18 2019 6:10 utc | 63 Zachary Smith @59:
LOL. I’d say just the opposite: Given that elections for the Imperial Presidency are rigged, you’re wasting your time and your vote if you follow the endless droning of MSM pundits and play the duopoly’s identity politics and “lesser evil” games. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 18 2019 6:18 utc | 64 @58 Jackrabbit Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 6:25 utc | 65 @60 farm ecologist Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 6:36 utc | 66 My money is on Gabbard to win the Presidency. Probably standing as an independant The establishment democrats don’t like her. More and more of the population are realising the Democrat/Republican endless war party is not an option. The rebel, Trump, has turned out to be another sellout. Bernie Sanders, just another egotistical fake. What are you left with. Tulsi Gabbard. Posted by: Ike | Apr 18 2019 6:37 utc | 67 Sanders is Jimmy Carter WITHOUT Brzezinski’s influence. Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 6:39 utc | 68 Re: Christian J Chuba | Apr 17, 2019 7:22:58 PM | 37 Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 18 2019 6:41 utc | 69 Caitlin Johnstone in fine form: “Debunking The ‘Assange Is A Russian Agent’ Smears.” Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 18 2019 6:46 utc | 70 Hi guys, Posted by: wisdombody | Apr 18 2019 7:09 utc | 71 … Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 18 2019 8:05 utc | 72 @37 Christian Chuba and 69 Perimetr Posted by: Grieved | Apr 18 2019 8:19 utc | 73 Correction. Editing error @ #72… Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 18 2019 8:41 utc | 74 @16 Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 18 2019 9:11 utc | 75 Christian J Chuba | Apr 17, 2019 7:22:58 PM | 37 Posted by: Ian | Apr 18 2019 9:30 utc | 76 @ Circe Posted by: oo goo gachoo | Apr 18 2019 10:36 utc | 77 Grieved says: Posted by: john | Apr 18 2019 10:40 utc | 78 @44 by: Zachary Smith | Apr 17, 2019 8:30:36 PM | 44 you know Mr. Z. Smith, I am amazed how you point to sites that make no sense to denounce the accumulation of scientific evidence that points to 5G energy as a threaten to our entire civilization? in its present form.. <=it is said no one knows, therefore it is safe, but the evidence thus far sure does not bode well.
Because you denounce evidence challenging the safety of 5G energy, I know you much be well aware of Dr. Pall's recent testimony to the California Legislature in the USA that 5G energy is 75000X greater than the energy that operate the membrane gates that control the cell activities that keep the eyes, ears, nose, and heart running?
your challenge to snake@44, suggest you must have an advanced degree in molecular biology, and must fully understand calcium channel signalling and membrane gating biology. So my question is how do you account for the effects of 5g energies on Calcium Channel Signalling..? discounting link @40 and the prior posted links[ weeks back] showing how molecular biology of calcium signalling in eyes and nose works (academic paper supported by over 100 academic references and link to statements by Dr. Pall. I suggest in light of the current and available data about 5G energies, that you need to prove the null hypothesis to the following hypothesis. Posted by: snake | Apr 18 2019 10:47 utc | 79 Posted by: wisdombody | Apr 18, 2019 3:09:38 AM | 71 Posted by: somebody | Apr 18 2019 10:52 utc | 80 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Computer_Club#Chaos_Computer_Club_France Posted by: oo goo gachoo | Apr 18 2019 11:05 utc | 81 This Could Be the First Slavery Reparations Policy in America Posted by: John Doe | Apr 18 2019 11:28 utc | 82
Part 1: Noam Chomsky: We Must Confront the “Ultranationalist, Reactionary” Movements Growing Across Globe Posted by: John Doe | Apr 18 2019 11:46 utc | 83 @ Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 18, 2019 5:11:45 AM | 75 Seven sailors are kicked off ‘hunter killer’ nuclear submarine after testing positive for cocaine on duty in ‘major embarrassment for top brass’ and one of the worst scandals to hit Royal Navy Posted by: John Doe | Apr 18 2019 11:57 utc | 85 Seven sailors are kicked off ‘hunter killer’ nuclear submarine after testing positive for cocaine on duty in ‘major embarrassment for top brass’ and one of the worst scandals to hit Royal Navy Posted by: John Doe | Apr 18 2019 11:57 utc | 86 Middle class struggles are now threatening the global economy Posted by: John Doe | Apr 18 2019 12:04 utc | 87 Bernie’s millionaire problem Posted by: John Doe | Apr 18 2019 12:08 utc | 88 Posted by: vk | Apr 18, 2019 7:50:09 AM | 84 Posted by: somebody | Apr 18 2019 12:11 utc | 89 @77 oo goo gachoo Posted by: Circe | Apr 18 2019 12:27 utc | 90 circe 89 Lord Rothschild has urged the British public to steer clear of a Brexit vote and remain part of the European Union, in a threatening open letter for The Times. Posted by: John Doe | Apr 18 2019 13:03 utc | 92 What if the Roman Empire never fell, it just went underground for a few centuries to rebuild? Obviously the heart of this empire would still reside in Rome, safely ensconced within Vatican City, which we all know is sovereign territory marked by an Egyptian obelisk: Posted by: SlapHappy | Apr 18 2019 13:04 utc | 93 James Corbett: Posted by: John Doe | Apr 18 2019 13:32 utc | 94 Correction: that isn’t MI6 behind the obelisk in City of London. Posted by: SlapHappy | Apr 18 2019 13:35 utc | 95 … Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 18 2019 13:54 utc | 97 @ Posted by: somebody | Apr 18, 2019 8:11:13 AM | 88 @49 So can we assume that Buttigieg is being promoted by people who want Trump to win? Posted by: dh | Apr 18 2019 14:05 utc | 99 In the What Can We Do? category on this open thread it has struck me that an example of ongoing success in the realm of exiting bankerdom is tiny Iceland, which seems to have disappeared from ongoing analysis vis-a-vis success/failure, probably due to the fact that it isn’t making ongoing dramatic news. This from wikipedia: Posted by: juliania | Apr 18 2019 14:11 utc | 100 |
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