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April 10, 2019
Open Thread 2019-20
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I have not come to the part regarding how to cut the oligarchs loose. Bart at 20 wrote. Posted by: Noirette | Apr 11 2019 14:30 utc | 102 Chipping away at the massive iceberg:
Posted by: librul | Apr 11 2019 14:39 utc | 103 Jackrabbit @80 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 11 2019 14:52 utc | 104 ADKC
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 11 2019 15:47 utc | 105 From the Saker site: Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 11 2019 16:31 utc | 106 Bernie Sanders doesn’t uphold the most fundamental aspect of human rights or what’s also the basis for justice as this twitter vid displays. Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 11 2019 17:11 utc | 107 Headline:
Not Ford-class carriers and the like. Not F-35s. Not ten trillion dollar bank bailouts. Not endless wars for the apartheid Jewish state. Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 11 2019 17:24 utc | 108 karlof1 106 The outline of the plan to ensure the 2020 Democratic Presidential candidate is acceptable to the apartheid Jewish state is emerging.
With every new Candidate, the influence of the Superdelegates increases. We may yet end up with some yahoo who yells “On To Iran” in his acceptance speech at the Convention. Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 11 2019 17:38 utc | 110 Jackrabbit Posted by: ADKC | Apr 11 2019 18:08 utc | 111 @Jackrabbit #105: Posted by: S | Apr 11 2019 18:13 utc | 112 Another lie revealed: US Troops didn’t liberate everyone from Nazi Concentration Camps they captured: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 11 2019 19:06 utc | 113 Russ @108– Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 11 2019 19:22 utc | 114 @ karlof1 #112
Surely you know of Britain driving Alan Turing to suicide when he was “treated” with chemical castration. Whether it ought to have been or not, homosexuality was almost universally considered to be a crime back then. In theory the Allies wouldn’t have released known murderers or rapists, either. Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 11 2019 19:43 utc | 115 ADKC, S Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 11 2019 20:01 utc | 116 karlof1 113 Jackrabbit @115 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 11 2019 21:22 utc | 118 ADKC Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 11 2019 23:09 utc | 119 Aaron Maté at The Grayzone provides a point-by-point rebuttal of Adam Schiff’s continued promotion of the Russiagate conspiracy theory: Congressman Adam Schiff’s Russiagate Delusions Are Not Okay (vid). Posted by: S | Apr 11 2019 23:59 utc | 120 Time for some Comic Relief. “Israeli spacecraft crashes during moon landing, says mission control” Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 12 2019 0:19 utc | 121 Jackrabbit @118 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 12 2019 0:29 utc | 122 @114 Zachary Smith Posted by: Schmoe | Apr 12 2019 0:46 utc | 123 Schmoe @122 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 12 2019 1:12 utc | 124 @ Schmoe #122
You can find all kinds of such “quotes” by people who didn’t know what they were talking about. Some were simply liars – Eisenhower was an example of that type. Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 12 2019 1:57 utc | 125 @123, @124 thanks for the responses. I still would guess that b) would have been a viable option notwithstanding the acts of some fanatics during the surrender process, but it’s over and done with. Posted by: Schmoe | Apr 12 2019 2:23 utc | 126 Zachary Smith @124 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 12 2019 2:30 utc | 127 @ ADKC #126
“happily remained isolated”… Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 12 2019 2:50 utc | 128 Wrong! The Japanese were just copying the west. You persist in believing that Japan is bad and the US good and that the US only dropped the bomb for good reasons. Posted by: ADKC | Apr 12 2019 3:01 utc | 129 ADKC @121:
I don’t know how you draw these conclusions from my comment @118. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 12 2019 5:08 utc | 130 After the “Arab Spring”, the new project of the elites is the “European Spring” promoted by the “DIEM25” movement, of which Julian Assange is a member ( thus toom uch for an indpendent actor/citizen/”journalist”…) along with Yanis Varoufakis, advocating for a Europe of the regions in a federaliced Europe, focused in municipalities around big cities, in a return to structures proper of the Middle Ages, where around 50 regions were part of Europe, as it is explained by the philopsphers behind this idea like Ulrike Guérot…These are the ideas around programs/ politicians/activists/organizations promoting the “commons”…
Interesting thread: Posted by: Sasha | Apr 12 2019 11:09 utc | 131 Sasha 130 Jackrabbit @130 Posted by: ADKC | Apr 12 2019 17:56 utc | 133 I wrote about the need to propagate messengers on the Assange thread, but have come here to post part of what the message’s content must include: Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 12 2019 21:50 utc | 134 typical bullshite from usa daily press briefing – Posted by: james | Apr 12 2019 21:58 utc | 135 I’m getting more and suspicious of Buttigieg’s rise in the polls. Posted by: Circe | Apr 12 2019 22:36 utc | 136 Oh one more thing, Gillum, like Abrams and now Buttigieg is a Dem rising star, so even if Biden doesn’t pick a woman, the criticism would die down fast. Let’s see if my hunch is correct. Biden is set to announce soon. Posted by: Circe | Apr 12 2019 22:49 utc | 137 james @135
As it gets more difficult to deny the existence of a Deep State that serves the oligarchy, funneling all criticism to Jews or Russia is a convenient way to avoid any real discussion and shut down discontent. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 13 2019 0:57 utc | 138 james | Apr 12, 2019 5:58:35 PM | 135 Posted by: Desolation Row | Apr 13 2019 1:08 utc | 139 This seems like an important story that is not getting the coverage it deserves: Posted by: ADKC | Apr 13 2019 1:09 utc | 140 In a Saker article from last year I ran into an interesting subsection. Here it is:
For some reason an ancient acronym popped into my head while reading this: Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly. (It’s to help memorize the resister color code – BBROYGBVGW.) Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 13 2019 1:37 utc | 141 @sasha – share russ’s viewpoint @132.. Posted by: james | Apr 13 2019 1:42 utc | 142 China hand Peter Lee, Posted by: denk | Apr 13 2019 3:16 utc | 144 ADKC @133
A clue to solving this riddle might be found in Roger Stone’s claims that he himself (Roger Stone) had a connection to Wikileaks. AFAICT this claim seems to be made from whole cloth. And comes after Manafort (AFAIK) has not be willingly to testify that about connections with Wikileaks (which he may or may not have had).
<> <> <> <> <> <> <> Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 13 2019 3:20 utc | 145 And on the China/Australia front there is this from ZH Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 13 2019 3:51 utc | 146 james @135 Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 13 2019 4:19 utc | 147 james 135 Bernie Sanders loves war and hates even semi-real socialists. Jack Rabbit @ 145: Posted by: Jen | Apr 13 2019 5:29 utc | 150 @Jackrabbit: I know you’re no longer saying that Manafort was pro-Russian or had anything to do with pro-Russian forces, but just to hammer in the point, watch the segment from 1:20 to 3:03 of the following video: Ukraine officials offer evidence of election meddling in favor of Hillary Clinton to Trump’s DOJ. The rest of the video might also be useful to further refine your theory. Posted by: S | Apr 13 2019 5:32 utc | 151 Jackrabbit, Posted by: Circe | Apr 13 2019 5:34 utc | 152 @Jen #150:
By whom? It never seizes to amaze me how every Russian businessman is “close to Vladimir Putin”. Deripaska is only “close to Putin” insofar as he’s the owner of Russian aluminum industry, which is an important part of Russian economy. Posted by: S | Apr 13 2019 6:59 utc | 153 The ultimate in “stealth technology” must be a black hole. Now that it’s possible to “image” a black hole, it really makes me wonder how much longer the US will go on squandering billions on stealth technology:
Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 13 2019 9:01 utc | 154 S @ 153: Posted by: Jen | Apr 13 2019 12:00 utc | 155 “That was quick!” department… Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 13 2019 14:55 utc | 156 @ Hoarsewhisperer #155
IMO this person is wrong only about the “trying” part – some of these ‘services’ make decisions about what is allowed to be posted and what is not. Naturally I’ve got my own suspicions about who might be behind this. The other day at a Disqus-hosted site a post I made about NATO threatening to attack Russia from the Black Sea using ‘freedom of navigation’ as an excuse just disappeared. Not the first time this has happened, either. Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 13 2019 15:48 utc | 157 Circe Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 13 2019 15:48 utc | 158 @147 jackrabbit.. the press will continue to fail to ask important questions.. at this point they are primarily couriers for the empire, as opposed to a force for anything good, or a check on these same forces.. Posted by: james | Apr 13 2019 16:11 utc | 159 Microsoft announces it will shut down ebook program and confiscate its customers’ libraries Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 13 2019 16:25 utc | 160 @159 zachary.. interesting topic and i think you are correct in your speculations on all that.. Posted by: james | Apr 13 2019 16:48 utc | 161 #159: Not only is it profitable for corporations, but it will allow the Empire to one day flip the switch and “disappear” all ebooks that contain the real history. People who still remember the real history will be called “conspiracy theorists”, and any physical books that still remain will be called “elaborated hoaxes”. Posted by: S | Apr 13 2019 16:53 utc | 162 There seems to be a coordinated effort to depict Assange as a CIA asset. Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 13 2019 16:57 utc | 163 @Jackrabbit 157 Posted by: Circe | Apr 13 2019 17:01 utc | 164 @ james #160 Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 13 2019 17:06 utc | 165 # S #161 Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 13 2019 17:11 utc | 166 I finally had time to read the latest Whitney Webb piece – #2 of 8? , and a long read – which, as I recall, was linked here by mourning dove. Excellent work by Ms Webb! & mourning dove! for bringing this. Posted by: Desolation Row | Apr 13 2019 18:09 utc | 167 While Russiagate was going vira, few noticed there’s an even more extensive and vicious Chinagate going on. Posted by: denk | Apr 14 2019 1:20 utc | 168 Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 13, 2019 11:48:02 AM | 157 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 14 2019 2:24 utc | 169 Armageddon Posted by: Steve Keith | Apr 14 2019 5:47 utc | 170 @165 zachery… i don’t know the process where they buy books – ebooks and etc, for the libraries.. it is interesting what you say.. i imagine mainstream people do mainstream things, or what is seen as mainstream… i am kind of out of the loop in regards the mainstream! Posted by: james | Apr 14 2019 15:39 utc | 171 |
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