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April 11, 2019

Met Police Arrests Julian Assange

An hour ago the Metropolitan Police arrested Julian Assange, the publisher and editor of Wikileaks, in the Embassy of Ecuador in London. RT has video of the arrest from outside the embassy.

A police statement said:

Julian Assange, 47, (03.07.71) has today, Thursday 11 April, been arrested by officers from the Met Police (MPS) at the Embassy of Ecuador, Hans Crescent, SW1 on a warrant issued by Westminster Magistrates' Court on 29 June 2012, for failing to surrender to the court.

The MPS had a duty to execute the warrant, on behalf of Westminster Magistrates' Court, and was invited into the embassy by the Ambassador, following the Ecuadorian government's withdrawal of asylum.

He has been taken into custody at a central London police station where he will remain, before being presented before Westminster Magistrates' Court as soon as is possible.

This was inevitable.

Ecuador has a new government that asked to receive a loan from the International Monetary Fund. The U.S. conditioned its agreement to the loan on the lifting of the asylum for Assange which the previous Ecuadorian government had granted to him.

After some legal hustle in the Britain, which will take time, Assange will likely be extradited to the United States where the Justice Department holds at least one warrant against him.

Wikileaks was the media outlet for several embarrassing leaks of secret U.S. government papers. It is unclear for which of these publications the Justice Department will indict him.

But the case against Assange is not about justice. His publication of state secrets was obviously an act of journalism and free speech. But the deep state was embarrassed and demands revenge.

The best Assange can hope for, after the judicial process ran its course, is a pardon by the president of the United States.

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@191 arby

Wow! Chris Hedges's article is a must-read zinger! I don't think he left one detail out. He really gave it Solzhenitsyn's rule of the last inch!

Posted by: Circe | Apr 12 2019 0:27 utc | 201

Professor Jonathan Turley just reminded a BBC news anchor that in a previous extradition request that actually involved a real hacker, the then Home Secretary refused the US request. That Home Secretary was none other than Theresa May.
It's a weird world of nation-states out there!

Posted by: kgw | Apr 12 2019 0:27 utc | 202

There are some trolls on this thread who would have you believe that the one being crucified is somehow a traitor; and they go on to offer you more poison to drink, insisting that numerous writers who have been defending Assange, and who continue to defend him in the present crisis, must be after all, worthless and agenda-driven people. Whenever I happen upon such debased writers, whose words are the fabric of distortion, bile and deception, they are revealed as the wretches they are.

If we can not defend Julian Assange; then we can not defend ourselves from people whose aim is to molest us and deprive us of all rights and dignity. No one who honors the freedom of speech or believes in the right of journalists to do their work free of government or corporate violence, can trust any president who betrays his own oath of office, and only believes in law provisionally when, and only when, it is expedient for him. Do not listen to the sons-of-bitches who pour poison on your heads.

We have a government in this country which is pursuing a suicidal foreign policy. These are officials that personify a cold inhuman arrogance, being so disrespectful as to not think that other countries have sovereignty, or really even the right to send abroad their ambassadors, unless they have first sent the obsequious signal to Washington.

We could learn something important about ourselves as the fate of this one courageous man unfolds. Shall we refuse to capitulate? Have we the strength to see this through to the end?

Posted by: Copeland | Apr 12 2019 0:35 utc | 203

@ 191: Thanks for the link. An excerpt that may prove prescient:

"The arrest of Assange, I fear, marks the official beginning of the corporate totalitarianism that will define our lives."

Chris Hedges..

Posted by: ben | Apr 12 2019 0:37 utc | 204

@193 karlof1... i agree with you in that.. i guess @200 copeland is saying something similar too.. thanks for your many posts here today as well.. it is interesting jackrabbit mentioning sweden is reopening the case.. bizarre, but not surprising given swedens role to date with regard to assange..

really interesting reading the thread here today as well... here is caitlin johnstone article How You Can Be Certain That The US Charge Against Assange Is Fraudulent fwiw...

Posted by: james | Apr 12 2019 0:41 utc | 205

FWIW, an idea has occurred to me about the Dead-Man Switch. Maybe it's set up (or being operated) -- well -- literally. To try to keep Assange alive.

For example (only), if there is material for leverage on the UK, maybe it is such as to encourage sending Assange to the newly-revived alternative of Sweden instead of to the US. Or maybe to Spain where the justice system is supposedly following up on the allegations of spying against Assange.

What do folks here think? (Also is the DMS all-or-nothing, or more nuanced?)

Posted by: John Anthony La Pietra | Apr 12 2019 0:56 utc | 206

Wikileaks came up with quat on 9/11. Why?

Posted by: Jezabeel | Apr 12 2019 0:58 utc | 207

Bravo Tulsi Gabbard!

“Today’s arrest and indictment of Julian Assange undermines freedom of the press, and seeks to silence whistleblowers and the journalists who publish their information. This sets a dangerous precedent of criminal prosecution of journalists or news organizations who publish information the government doesn’t like, while also opening the door for other countries to extradite US journalists who publish their country’s secrets,” said Rep. Tulsi Gabbard. “We must protect whistleblowers and freedom of the press, and exercise oversight over our law enforcement and intelligence agencies to ensure our Constitutional rights are upheld.”

https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/rep-tulsi-gabbard-assange-arrest-sets-dangerous-precedent-threatens-freedom

Posted by: haze | Apr 12 2019 1:01 utc | 208

Here's what I would consider another decent statement:

Green Party Calls for Release of Julian Assange

Posted by: John Anthony La Pietra | Apr 12 2019 1:03 utc | 209

The “dangerous precedent” argument doesn’t entirely sit well with me.

I’d prefer “Assange is a journalist who reported government crimes. He must be set free. Persecuting him with false smears is evil.”

“Dangerous precedent” and “slippery slope” arguments are valid but too often seem to fall on deaf ears.

Posted by: oo goo gachoo | Apr 12 2019 1:27 utc | 210

MAGA:

- illegally occupy territory (Syria and Afghanistan);

- support genocidal war (Yemen);

- thumb nose at UN resolutions;

- terminate treaties and embargo trade (Iran, North Korea);

- stoke tensions with adversaries (Russia, China, Iran, etc.);

- support idiotic Obama retread in Venezuela;

- shake down your allies;

- militarize space.

Winning:

- excuse killing of journalists (Khashoggi);

- torture whistle-blowers (Manning) and arrest journalists (Assange);

- cut humanitarian aid (Palestinians) to support Apartheid (Isreal);

- take hostages (Meng);

- bomb first, ask questions later (Syria);

- label anyone you don't like a "terrorist", "terrorist organization", or "terrorist state" - then invoke AUMF (Iran);

- expand the swamp (tax cuts, military spending increases, cut regulations, Jared's sweetheart deal, etc.).

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Not meant to be an exhaustive list.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 12 2019 1:44 utc | 211

Why, on Earth, would Trump pardon him?? He is not noted for his support of leftist dissidents. I always laugh when I read Yanks talking about their 'constitution.' Life, liberty and the maintenance of slavery.

Posted by: Richard I. Crawford | Apr 12 2019 1:58 utc | 212

A soaring ego, vile personal habits, and after years in his squalid den, hardly a friend left: GUY ADAMS on the downfall of Julian Assange - The Daily Mail (headline on lead article on website)


The Daily Mail is the best selling, most widely read UK newspaper and is regarded as staunchly right wing and the newspaper of the forces.

Surprisingly, the best place to measure how the Assange extradition is going down with the British Public is probably The Daily Mail readers comments section.

With the removal of Dacre (he was anti-EU) there is some evidence of moderating (in Dacre's time comments seemed to be unmoderated) but they are still a good indication of whether an issue is doomed or not.

The headline above is the lead article on Assange and not worth reading; it's what you would expect from the headline. But what did the Mail's readers think?

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Best Rated Comments (top 7 comments)
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Seven years in what was basically solitary confinement would take a toll on anyone. 926 in favour, 55 against

I thank this man for opening our eyes to the disgusting, malicious and greedy world our politician live in. 884 in favour, 282 against

This man is a modern day hero, he's sacrificed his life so we are able to learn the truth. Shame on anyone who doesn't stand by him. This is truly disgraceful. 725 in favour, 452 against

He looks unwell and a lot older than his 47 years. 563 in favour, 25 against

All this man did was report what the whisteblowers told him. They csme (came [sic]) to him not the other way round. Obviously the US is embarrassed by the revelations and now want to punish him. 552 in favour, 132 against

Yes, he has charges to answer - but I am disturbed by the way his arrest is presented in a "guilty perp display", together with somewhat hysterical coverage in this paper . . . . vile personal habits? Hmmm. Skateboarding in the corridors? Dreadful. All seems a bit over the top. I am warming to this man. 425 in favour, 174 against

He published true information about atrocities. We need to protect those who are brave enough to blow the whistle . . . 400 in favour, 84 against

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Worst Rated Comments (Bottom 5 comments)
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I don't believe he has principles and he deserves to face American justice. 528 in favour, 610 against

They'll have to do the same with Trump, eventually. 167 in favour, 280 against

He's an anarchist. Plain and simple. You don't get to choose which laws to break. And what he did reveal was very little substance anyway. 182 in favour, 274 against

He should spend the rest of his life in jail. 95 in favour, 205 against

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The really good news is that all the readers comments votes are favourable to Assange (not just the ones above). My conclusion is that, so far, the public relations aspect of the government's operation has been a failure. There is good reason to be hopeful!

Posted by: ADKC | Apr 12 2019 2:08 utc | 213

@210, Thanks AKDC, those comments are encouraging.

Posted by: George Lane | Apr 12 2019 2:28 utc | 214

@ Copeland #200

There are some trolls on this thread who would have you believe that the one being crucified is somehow a traitor...

IMO you can judge the 'influence' of a website by both the number and quality of the trolls. The ones I may have spotted here are very, very good. As someone suggested the other day on another topic, their job is to blend in and contribute, and to seem like good citizens. Until it's time to use their hard-earned credibility to dig in their heels on the issue concerning the outfit they work for.

By way of contrast, the recent Boeing Trolls were recent arrivals (new-hires?), and not at all effective

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 12 2019 2:28 utc | 215

https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1116332104558817285

Posted by: ab initio | Apr 12 2019 2:33 utc | 216

@ Richard I. Crawford #209

Regarding "slavery", few US Americans know that the 13th Amendment didn't stop all slavery - it merely restricted the practice.

I'm ashamed to admit I didn't know this myself until fairly recently.

At any rate, the "Constitution" is precisely what the current rightwingnut Supreme Court says it is - the actual words don't really matter

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 12 2019 2:37 utc | 217

I've been reading some really crazy stuff about Assange in previous days and weeks, and saw a blogger predicting he would be taken into British custody before Jeremy Corbyn became Prime Minister.

Gotta wonder if Theresa May will be permitted to hang around long enough to ensure Assange is safely on a plane to the US before leaving office. Despite the woman being way past her expiration date, the EU seem to have been bending over backwards to help her out.

Or is this just me being paranoid?

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 12 2019 3:17 utc | 218

Dear Sacha,

"why do you think Assange supported the invasion and destruction of Syria"

This is very simple. Back at the time of Arab Spring, most of the Western opinion, be it left or right, supported overthrowing a dictator. Assange, for better or worse, was in the lopsided majority, hardly strange.

"how do you explain Assange´s strong support for the Independence of Catalonia...."

This was not a majority opinion, but not rare. More importantly, tracing it to the needs of "deep state" is very speculative. On the other hand, the rage of established political circles against the very idea of Wikileaks was palpable, and what Wikileaks did was perceived as "very damaging". Even if independence of Catalonia were in some mysterious ways a priority of the sinister and hardly known deep state that you postulate, Assange had scant influence on that happening. So the putative plan of using leaks to Wikileaks to build up its stature and to use that to further the causes of fragmenting Syria and Spain would be weird indeed: huge losses for speculative gains.

One has to understand the nature of the rage against Wikileaks. Any conceivable deep stater depends on secrecy. To them, secrecy is like air for birds and water for fish -- a necessary element that makes their ecological niche habitable. An organization that facilitates dissemination of secret is, to them, a blasphemous existence.

One has to understand that what we call "deep state" is hardly secret in the outline. Its member go back and forth from private sector (corporations, think tanks, media, academic gig etc.) and the government leaving a large visible trail that is in the public view. That said, they need many secrets because the wide public in democratic countries needs to have pure, trusting, uncomplicated minds. Like making children, implementation of most of policies requires some f...ng activity

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 12 2019 3:29 utc | 219

I think someone posted Craig Murray already but he is in London with Wikileaks and the legal team and his very latest post reports that everyone - including Julian Assange - is "energised rather than downhearted". Finally, they say, it's all out in the open and the US action will be seen for the simple revenge move that it is:

Chelsea and Julian are in Jail. History Trembles.

I must say that I feel somewhat the same way.

I didn't think Assange looked that bad when he was manhandled out of the embassy. He was crouched in self-protection as anyone should and would be, but it seemed to me that he was loudly proclaiming all the way into the van. Pamela Anderson's statement that he didn't look very well disturbed me, and I do put stock in her judgment, but even so, here is the best picture of him so far, giving a thumbs up in handcuffs:

https://twitter.com/GuyReuters/status/1116317129559674881

His hair is brushed, his eyes are alive, he signals courage, and this is the message I personally will take from him for now. The US has a long way to go yet to cook this goose without spilling a lot of hot fat on itself.

~~

And greetings and gratitude to those who spoke and saw and found and linked the courageous and noble and resisting voices and views of this event during this long thread.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 12 2019 3:32 utc | 220

Theresa May brays at Assange's arrest and MPs cheer.

https://www.rt.com/uk/456277-assange-arrest-mps-cheer/

Jackrabbit @208

You forgot to mention hiring Neocon scumbags Bolton and Abrams, putting Neocon Pompeo at State, signing away Jerusalem and the Golan Heights to Israel, helping Netanyahoo get re-elected and imposing sanctions after breaking the deal with Iran.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 12 2019 4:00 utc | 221

The Washington Times, April 11, 2019:

Software developer linked to Julian Assange arrested at Quito airport

A senior Ecuadorian official says a Swedish software developer living in Quito and who is allegedly close to Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has been arrested as authorities attempt to dismantle a blackmail ring that in recent days had threatened to retaliate against President Lenin Moreno.

The official said Ola Bini was arrested Thursday at Quito’s airport as he was preparing to board a flight for Japan.

The official spoke on the condition of anonymity and didn’t provide any additional details about Bini.

Posted by: John Smith | Apr 12 2019 4:06 utc | 222

What WikiLeaks revealed to the world in 2010

The government wants you to believe it's a criminal enterprise. But here's a look back at what WikiLeaks exposed

Posted by: John Smith | Apr 12 2019 4:28 utc | 223

New Day, April 11, 2019:

"It will be really good to get him back on United States soil," says @Sen_JoeManchin on Julian Assange's arrest.

"He is our property and we can get the facts and the truth from him."

Posted by: John Smith | Apr 12 2019 5:09 utc | 224

"The only people defending Trump at this stage are imbeciles and Russians...living on STOLEN PROPERTY in the WEST BANK and sending their sewage to the ghettoized Palestinian refugee camp below, and any genius conspirateur still supporting Trump at this stage is in either of those two groups."
Posted by: Circe | Apr 11, 2019 6:55:43 PM | 187

Talking about imbeciles...
Have you forgotten that Trump began his first term as the Drain the Swamp, No New Wars, POTUS? Telegraphing his shots before the draining had even begun sounded, to me, like an unnecessarily risky way to kick off a Crusade against the world's most amoral arseholes. But it was his decision and he's obviously confident that he is up to the challenge, and hasn't started a new war - which is a pretty low bar when you think about it.
On the other hand, Circe, anyone who expected his Presidency to be predictable or nice is an imbecile. A garrulous and verbose imbecile.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 12 2019 5:16 utc | 225

Tulsi Gabbard, April 11, 2019:

The arrest of #JulianAssange is meant to send a message to all Americans and journalists: be quiet, behave, toe the line. Or you will pay the price.

Posted by: John Smith | Apr 12 2019 5:28 utc | 226

Posted by: Circe | Apr 11, 2019 6:55:43 PM | 187

The only people defending Trump at this stage are imbeciles and Russians...living on STOLEN PROPERTY in the WEST BANK...
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What are these Russians?! In 99.99% of cases, these are people who consider Israel their historical homeland and have second passports of this state. These persons are Russians by a place of birth only.

Posted by: John Smith | Apr 12 2019 5:41 utc | 227

Remember George Orwell's “1984” describes a dismal future when most of the world population have become victims of perpetual war, omnipresent government surveillance and media propaganda. Interesting that Orwell’s arch protagonist (Emmanuel Goldstein) and his “Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism” sees the three "opposing" ideologies as functionally identical and each superstate being powerful enough that even shifting alliances (of two against one) only results in a continuing stalemate dynamic.

Are we there yet? I think Julian Assange might be feeling it so and this latest saga looks like an ominous tipping point indicator for those who think they live in a western democracy with press freedom to hold government (by the people) accountable.

Posted by: imo | Apr 12 2019 6:08 utc | 228

Moral to all the truth-seekers of the planet - if you look for salvation, then only in Russia.....

Posted by: truth seeker | Apr 12 2019 6:23 utc | 229

I suggest the swamp has been drained, the dripping wet critters have emerged and are taking refuge
in government and institutions everywhere. But there is also much and substantial resistance generating .
The nation is split, the party system too, , but among those non supporters a general understanding
is developing that something needs to be done to save the American way of life. .

The timing of Assange release.. is a "watch-my-magic" decoy for Ukraine, Syria, Golan and Venezuela.

I am told large numbers are organizing to march-in-defense of Assange.. if this is true John Smith @ 223 observation could mean arrest of Assange might be the spark that ignites the masses. I certainly think, long before now, the temperature has reached critical.
Ninety-nine out of 100 times the yell panty raid produces nothing, but on the 100th time, it starts

Posted by: snake | Apr 12 2019 6:24 utc | 230

karlof1 157

"At least AOC took some time to send something positive, which is much more than what can be said about others."

Granted, albeit in her typical back-handed "Maduro-is-a-nasty-dictator-nevertheless-the-US-shouldn't-intervene" manner. I saw that Gabbard (at least in the part of the quote I saw) and the Greens managed to stick up for Assange without implicitly smearing him.

Posted by: Russ | Apr 12 2019 6:28 utc | 231

@148 lysias: You are correct, the statute of limitations is 5 years and applies. However, they are going to try and indict this as a terrorist act which abrogates the statute of limitations. We won't know until May 2 what they really are planning. Under international extradition laws the US prosecutors must tell the British courts exactly what the charges are and the potential maximum penalties. They cannot pile on more charges once he is extradited. Under British law a person cannot be extradited to a country where they have a potential for the death penalty. If terrorism is applied then that is a potential outcome and would thereby prohibit extradition.

Also, he is not a US citizen and this alleged crime did not occur inside US territories. However, once again the US twists international law saying all the internet is owned by the US and therefore it is inside the US. This is the same thing as International bank transfers which transit through the Federal Reserve Bank in NY therefore any money transfers from one country to another which never involved the US actually are tried as if the act occurred in the US. This is one huge reason that many countries are trying to tie into the new Chinese system so as to avoid the SWIFT system (which is actually in Belgium but for some bizarre reason transits thorough the Federal Reserve bank). The US is a very tricky country and has their grubby fingers into nearly everything. The US also almost never follows international laws when they are inconvenient. There are also no treaties the US has not violated. The US is, in every regard, a rogue nation clearly out of control. Assange is toast but I think he knows this.

Realistically, this is a petty and minor charge. We (including Sweden and the UK) have literally wasted millions of dollars for a non-crime and one that is going to be very difficult to prove. Surely, there are much more important targets out there than Assange. So, the agenda is very clearly revenge and as Tulsi Gabbard it is to serve as an example to other journalists. This is the real fight and it is over the 1st Amendment. The fact that Congress is mostly supporting Trump on this shows very clearly who they serve. The only real hope Assange has is for this to rise to become a major public outcry. Trump loves to be perceived as a hero to the common man so it would be an opportunity to get some limelight (and votes) should he pardon Assange. The press need to get off their collective asses and start supporting one of their own. Left unsaid so far is that the NYT, Washington Post, Guardian and Reuters all published the Snowden files so their asses are on the line as well.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Apr 12 2019 7:00 utc | 232

Frog has something of interest to say to the US public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxZ2nAQYICE&feature=em-uploademail

Posted by: Carloz | Apr 12 2019 7:18 utc | 233

@228 -- "Assange is toast but I think he knows this."

Indeed, willing or otherwise, he seems to following the Matrix end-script into the machine. Yet to see if the "Smith" virus prevails in the real world of Trumpsville. Stock up on the popcorn, imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX3qLIwHoUo

Posted by: imo | Apr 12 2019 7:36 utc | 234

@160 sasha I am equally cynical. I have been dismayed that only 5% of the Snowden documents were ever released. Glen Greenwald put in his lot with Omidyar who is very clearly on the side of the Borgista and serves to be a "permitted" source of opposition which is semi-controlled. I agree that Assange has done damage with some of his support for propaganda. I tend to think though this was by deception against him or his own negative bias. The US propaganda is very good and I find myself periodically buying into some of it myself and I definitely know better. We will see how this plays out and who it benefits.

I also think the timing smells.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Apr 12 2019 8:20 utc | 235

Assange isn't going anywhere for now.
These show trials can last forever when it comes to extradition, plus he will have to serve a sentence in the UK first.
With the world watching, its not like they can black bag and Dick Cheney him away to Cuba.
The majority of the world is on his side, and will demand transparency and clemency.
I know it means jack shit to most here, but if the dickheads in Norway give him a Nobel, chances are he will be pardoned.
If that happens,the minute he has the opportunity, he should move to Russia. Chelsea Mannings new sentence is entirely punative, and he will have these fuckers hunting him forever...

Posted by: dan | Apr 12 2019 8:36 utc | 236

Just like Juan Guaido, Lenin Moreno was recruited by the US Deep State, probably CIA. Juan Guaido has met and received the support of Lenin Moreno.

Posted by: El Cid | Apr 12 2019 9:03 utc | 237

i just so want to read the title as "Meth Police arrested...."

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 12 2019 9:10 utc | 238

I hope people remember the arch-villian which sets the whole procedure in motion. Sweden.

Posted by: Steve | Apr 12 2019 9:11 utc | 239

So why does former vocal Wikileaks fan Donald Trump suddenly develop a case of amnesia related to it when questioned?

Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 12 2019 9:16 utc | 240

I agree it looks grim for Julian. He’s a very courageous and incredibly intelligent journalist/publisher who spoke truth to power.

Caitlin Johnstone sums it up well:

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/04/11/assange-has-been-arrested-for-us-extradition-the-time-to-act-is-now/

However, I don’t fully agree with her point 7, but given her comments am not going to challenge her. Yet ‘Q’ chimed in with “we have the source” (for a year or more that means Assange and access to testimony he could give that would cripple the Clintons and other Deep State actors). That’s where a pardon from Trump could come in.
This take on it is interesting and not impossible (though I fear it too optimistic):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=y-l-A6d8MIU

See latest post (3312) https://qmap.pub/
It’s far too sophisticated to be a ‘LARP’ after 18 months of predicting future events. Question is how genuine is the DIA at not just tackling the Deep State but in returning power to the people including free speech of the Wikileaks degree.

Posted by: PJB | Apr 12 2019 11:03 utc | 241

Posted by error in the Open Thread:

After the "Arab Spring", the new project of the elites is the "European Spring" promoted by the "DIEM25" movement, of which Julian Assange is a member ( thus too much for an independent actor/citizen/"journalist"...) along with Yanis Varoufakis, advocating for a Europe of the Regions in a Federaliced Europe, focused in municipalities around big cities, in a return to structures proper of the Middle Ages, where around 50 regions were part of Europe, as it is explained by the philosophers behind these ideas, like Ulrike Guérot...These are the ideas around programs/politicians/activists/organizations promoting the "commons"..
As I see it, a path to the creation of a whole new oligarchical class of feudal lords who only will respond to the central European power, not to the current nation-state anymore...Is this not like increasing the power of the Euroepan center?

https://youtu.be/sUpVcJvE3UE

From the explanation below the video:

The European Union is morally and culturally bankrupt, according to the German philosopher and historian Ulrike Guérot. It's time to put the EU project to its grave. Guérot contemplates a European republic that consists of 50 regions around conglomerates of large cities, with a recognized identity and a shared economic and cultural interest. A decisive Europe that reinvents itself.(...)

(...)Guérot says that our values must be classified differently: far from the failed nation states in which many people no longer recognize themselves or feel represented. In the Middle Ages, Europe knew more than 50 different regions. These regions around the nodes of the city should become the new provinces of the European Republic in which all are equal. The Europe of Citizens will be born and the elite project of the European Union will be buried.

Interesting thread:

https://twitter.com/andrei_kononov/status/1116540335486795777

Why would Assange, an Australian citizen and "independent journalist" be a member of an organization which promotes the destruction of European nation-states into tiny Euro-regions? What dog he has in this fight?

Independently of the beautiful prospects presented as propaganda for this "project", what would be the benefits for the average European citizen in a Federalized Europe of the regions?

Will we be all equal, as they claim, or we, and our increasing discontent, will be better managed in a capitalist system already in its death rattle? I mean, does this reinforce and empower us, or, on the contrary, debilitate and expose us more, if needed?

How do we will protect ourselves, once being pulverized into tiny regions, in front of heavy armed hegemons already out of its senses and control, like the US?

What lecture we take out of from the Venezuelan experience related to the power of resistance of a whole nation-state and its national army which remain strongly united against a bully with hegemonic pretensions?

Why the Russians, whose power of resistance relies in the cohesiveness of a huge nation-state, so much defend Assange who is promoting precisely the opposite for the Europan nation-states?

Which world powers, and ideologies, would benefit from a Europe without historic nation-states?

Posted by: Sasha | Apr 12 2019 11:22 utc | 242

Pompeo is a moron:

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo – when he was the director of the CIA – referred to WikiLeaks as a "non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia."

Doesn't he realize that every NGO that receives funding from the NED, DNI, IRI can now be classed as a "non-state hostile intelligence service". Same can be said of VoA, RFE/RL, probably the BBC, etc. And I'm sure there are those who would stretch the definition a little further to include the likes of the Washington Post, New York Times, etc.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 12 2019 11:47 utc | 243

Be happy to live in this time.

You have been treated with the most clear and brazen contempt by the power elite (insert favourite term; "deep state" ...). Not only are they fomenting another foreign coup (Venezuala), but are happy to clearly, publicly spend years "russia-gating" (new synonym for "propagandizing") but will also prosecute a publisher for doing what journalists working with sources do. Namely, encourage more information, and attempting to hide the identity of the source.

There is no more curtain. You cannot decline to know.

And the sweeteners; Russian TV was the only one on the spot to get the videos, and the UK judge described Assange as narcissistic. How would you describe the power elite?

20 foot high neon-sign; THE POWERS OF THE STATE ARE THERE TO SERVE THOSE WHO CAN PAY. All else is illusion.

Posted by: Spong Bob | Apr 12 2019 12:00 utc | 244

Just when I was beginning to think that Trump was one of the worst politicians in the United States, Hillary Clinton pops up and reminds me that she is worse than Trump. When she dies the world should have a good laugh.

Posted by: Ghost Ship | Apr 12 2019 12:49 utc | 245

ANONYMOUS where are you? You needs to get busy and spill some shit and ensure Assange’s release.

Posted by: Alpi57 | Apr 11, 2019 3:44:06 PM | 142


https://sputniknews.com/world/201904121074065121-anonymous-hackers-assange-arrest/

That’s whatI am talking ‘bout.

Posted by: Alpi57 | Apr 12 2019 12:52 utc | 246

Trump would never pardon Assange, but I wonder if Maduro could swap him after a year or two in jail, for Guaido and a few other rats of that pack....

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 12 2019 12:54 utc | 247

On the same day as Assange’s arrest, Facebook removed Rafael Correa’s page with 1.5 million followers because he published the secret offshore bank account number used by Lenin Moreno’s family:

The removal of Correa’s page for violating Facebook’s “community standards” is an unprecedented move, and the former statesman is the most high-profile public political figure to ever be removed from the social platform–placing the economist and icon of Latin American “socialism of the 21st century” in the same unlikely category as right-wing conspiracy theorist and broadcaster Alex Jones.

Posted by: S | Apr 12 2019 12:59 utc | 248

I think maybe some folks including myself have to give people like AOC, Gabbard, etc. some slack. I am getting on in life and it has taken me many years to see what is going on out there. Thanks to the internet and a crazy interest in geopolitics I have learned a lot. To expect a sub 30 year old who has been subjected to a whole life of perfected propaganda to know and see everything that an old geezer sees is expecting a lot.
These upstart politicians have to spend a lot of time on local problems as well. Only so many hours in a day.
It is good that they do see through some of the smoke and mirrors and one can only hope they will get better and not be co-opted.
Calling them out as fakes or sheep dogs may or may not be correct, only time will tell.

Posted by: arby | Apr 12 2019 13:03 utc | 249

The real Trump Derangement Syndrome is on disaplay in this comment thread. That is, butthurt lefties, many possiby also suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, who exhibit psychological projection in the form of calling out Trump's opponents for falling prey to "Trump Derangement Syndrome" when in fact the opponents' reactions are normal response and reaction to the POTUS as petty tyrant.

The Derangement is in fact those who believe Trump isn't pushing hard for Assange's scalp while Obama allowed the case to peter out when his DoJ started down the same dubious legal path the Trump DoJ is pursuing. Reportedly, Obama saw the jounalistic ethics shredded by the DoJ's backhanded path of investigation into "hacking conspiracy."

Then he also commuted Manning's sentence.

Thanks as always to Circe for putting up the good fight. Assist to Jackrabbit, another volume commenter who grasps Trump is not the change we are looking for, however he arrived at that conclusion.

And of course h/t the others who came in and stated the facts plainly to the blind who apparenty will not see.

There will be no pardon for Julian. There will be trials and persecution if he is allowed by England back to the states. The battle needs to be joined in Blighty. Now.

Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 12 2019 13:09 utc | 250

@Posted by: Sasha | Apr 12, 2019 7:22:56 AM | 239

In the escenario of the projected "Euroregions" linked around big European cities, is where you understand and place the next candidature of Manuel Valls, former French PM in Macron´s cabinet, to Mayor of Barcelona....He describes himself also as "independent",like Assange, but was seen and filmed in demonstrations along with the Spanish right and the far-right.... And it is that his links with allegedly opposition figures of the Spanish and Catalan political spectre do not only conflude in demonstrations around a common defended slogans, but also in the great private parties organized by oligarchs of the great entrepeneurial Catalan and Spanish class, where they all meet and have a good time together the dolphins of the neoliberal system next to be crowned and elevated to power, with the cream of the cream of the "independentist movements" and the most rancid Spanish right promoting that "something changes so that everything remains the same", that it was said at El Gatopardo. It is there where all these peons of the elites laugh with each other after having thrown the population against each other´s throats for spurious interests of the same elites of always.

https://twitter.com/andrei_kononov/status/1091059328721788933

Also interesting information in the thread below about real Matteo Salvini and his real position on Venezuela.....

Posted by: Sasha | Apr 12 2019 13:10 utc | 251

arby great point but the Blind will not see. Unfortunately, this wondrous internet you extol has "educated" many people right over the edge into a self-defeating form of cynical reactionism. Were they pushed or were they pulled? That is the question

The only solution the blind foresee on the horizon is Armageddon. Lol. Unfortunately, based on human nature alone they are probably correct.

What is the saying? We end up with the fate we deserve....

Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 12 2019 13:19 utc | 252

I would be much interested on how do you explain Assange´s strong support for the Independence of Catalonia….

“Would you call yourself a free market proponent?”

Julian: “Absolutely. I have mixed attitudes towards capitalism, but I love markets. .. To put it simply, in order for there to be a market, there has to be information. A perfect market requires perfect information. (...)

It's not correct to put me in any one philosophical or economic camp, because I've learned from many. But one is American libertarianism, market libertarianism. So as far as markets are concerned I'm a libertarian, but I have enough expertise in politics and history to understand that a free market ends up as monopoly unless you force them to be free. .... WikiLeaks is designed to make capitalism more free and ethical...”

Forbes interview 2010. (text) https://bit.ly/2UUIMbR

Other quote, 2013 (from Forbes)

“The Republican Party in so far as how it has coupled together with the war industry is not a conservative party at all and the Libertarian aspect of the Republican Party is presently the only useful political voice in the US Congress,” /Assange/ said. That point of view may well set the Wikileaks founder at odds with many of his progressive supporters….”

See the Wikileaks Party, Julian ran in Aus. (wiki has an entry)

... this short interview (on drugs…the right to self-determination..)

https://youtu.be/lf15eWVCIeE

He is thus is very strongly for the self-determination of people, like the Catalans, and others.

Personally, I don't think that it is necessary to link what WikiLeaks has published and Julian’s political stance, though his activity as publisher of leaks naturally (happily in my view) rests on some idealist as opposed to opportunistic vision.

Posted by: Noirette | Apr 12 2019 13:35 utc | 253

Future whistleblowers and leak publishers should only apply for asylum in countries that are: 1) resistant to regime change, and 2) don’t care about angering the Empire. In other words, Russia or Iran. Possibly North Korea (but it’s psychologically difficult to live there due to the general isolation of the country). China, in my opinion, will not grant asylums as it wants to maintain the appearance of neutrality. And Venezuela… I’m not 100% sure of its ability to resist regime change (too many pro-Empire people there). So, Russia or Iran. You may hate these countries, but these are the only ones that will give you reliable protection.

If you’re designing a censorship-resistant website/platform, place mirror copies simultaneously in Russia, Iran, and China. This will give you additional protection and allow you to avoid the perception that you are an “agent” of one of them.

Posted by: S | Apr 12 2019 13:50 utc | 254

John Smith | Apr 12, 2019 1:41:40 AM | 224

The "Russian collusion" we've heard so much about was really Zionist collusion, but the Hydra won't condemn itself so it obfuscates and misdirects. Circe referencing "Russians" who live on stolen land is a cheeky way of calling out the real enemy.

Posted by: SlapHappy | Apr 12 2019 13:51 utc | 255

The US was waiting for Brexit to avoid the EU Human Rights Charter. That didn't work so they ordered the UK to grab Julian Assange before Jeremy Corbyn wins a general election and lets him leave the UK. The world is upside down within a generation:

When I was in high school, the USSR was infamous for its persecution of dissidents like writers and thinkers Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Andrei Sakharov and Vasily Aksyonov. When I grew up, the United States has become infamous for its persecution of dissidents (‘whistleblowers’), suspension of habeas corpus, violation of the Geneva Convention (‘enemy combatants’ and waterboarding) and its executions without trial (drone strikes). In contrast, Russia is now well known for its systematic advocacy for international law and national sovereignty.

The weird thing is the groupthink and groupspeak with all of these seemingly normal people ranting about Russian interference in an election and the rights of the US military to be exempt from any legal constraint. Even police brutality is getting a societal pass and the BLM advocates ("don't shoot unarmed black men in the back when they are running away from the cops") are treated as traitors.

Extraordinary. Hopefully there will be a secret rescue mission like something out of a James Bond movie, where Julian Assange disappears underground in the UK and pops up next in Moscow.

Posted by: Uncoy | Apr 12 2019 13:55 utc | 256

Likely, every step of this is illegal too. Secret police entering an embassy? A country taking back official refugee status? And doing so in return for a big fat loan from the United States? A secret trial since they've now mixed in the Chelsea Manning secret material?

We have police state tactics, but we have those almost every day now from good old America

Does anyone with any position or authority say anything?

Not a sound.

The corporate press supports it all. Bought-and-paid-for American politicians, under a corrupt campaign fund and lobby system, oppose nothing.

The US has intimidated, under various excuses, all major international organizations too, so there are no forums from which to address anything.

Our situation in the West just keeps getting darker.

The evil men are winning everywhere.

After all, the US is killing people in a dozen places, and we hear very little opposition. And the same for the US efforts to topple democratically-elected government.

Where's the outrage over Israel's killing 300 unarmed people as soldiers ambush from behind a fence unarmed civilians just demonstrating for some rights week after week?

Posted by: JOHN CHUCKMAN | Apr 12 2019 14:08 utc | 257

@Uncoy #254: Russian ambassador in London could have traveled in his limo to the Ecuadorian embassy. Assange could then jump from the balcony over the fence and quickly get in the limo. As the limo is under diplomatic protection, the British police wouldn’t be able to do anything. The limo would then transport Assange to a much more spacious and friendly Russian embassy.

Posted by: S | Apr 12 2019 14:09 utc | 258

> Russian ambassador in London could have traveled in his limo to the Ecuadorian embassy

LOL, but that would need
1) agreement and common schedule with Assange himself, who was isolated by Ecuador
2) making it to the embassy without being blocked in the way. Limo is under protection, but the road before it is not.
3) warranty there is no "unknown snipers" around, securing the arrest and cleaning things if Assange would somehow manage to break free

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 12 2019 14:19 utc | 259

> Future whistleblowers and leak publishers should only apply for asylum in countries that are: 1) resistant to regime change, and 2) don’t care about angering the Empire. In other words, Russia or Iran. Possibly North Korea.... China....

...and 3) they should learn not to do things that annoy their hosts and protectors.

As disgusting as it seems, that is reality.

If you want to be a knight in shiny armor fighting ALL the evil in the world - you can not ask one specific evil to be your "umbrella". If you choose to be a lone wolf, an easy rider, a stray bullet - then don't forget you ARE stray.

If you live under Ecuadorian protection (or Russian, or American, or Iranian, etc) - don't irritate your host.

When Wikipedia started blowing whistle on Moreno, and refused to cease it, Assange became a "sacred victim" waiting the good PR moment to be sacrificed.

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 12 2019 14:25 utc | 260

Pursuing just one strand, general political formations.

(of course the JA arrest was 'illegal', see Chuckman and others above..)

DIEM25.

link is to their site

https://bit.ly/2X5evo3

Pic at top (I looked for a more splendid one, this one is dark, too bad.)

Yanis V. is top left, right next to him is Laura A. (Corbyn’s 3rd wife, a lovely youngish brunette), the blondine seemingly casting an evil eye is Pamela A. Others named at link, include the ‘failed’ F socialist candidate in last F. Prez. elections Benoit H. (> 6% in the first round.)

DIEM25 site.

On the front page right now (12 apr. 19, 16.00 for me in CH) they claim Julian as a ‘member.’ (?)

https://diem25.org

I don’t see that the shenanigans of this conventional vaguely reformist (of the EU) ‘potential’ Party has anything much to do with what Julian has accomplished in his life and the courage and determination it took - not to put the past tense forward, and hoping for better for him.


Posted by: Noirette | Apr 12 2019 14:33 utc | 261

I guess Morenos agreement to accept the arrest "only if he is not extradited to a country where he could face death penalty or torture" means he's going to be transferred to sweden first and from there on to the us...

Posted by: radiator | Apr 12 2019 14:36 utc | 262

República Bananera del Ecuador - “Plátanos, Corrupción y Tío Sam”

I have a question to ask, hoping that that's OK with B (B, if it's not, just delete my comment and I'll just drop the matter).

Is anyone here able to handle graphics software? I'm pretty much hopeless at this, but I have some design in mind that I'd like to fax to the Ecuadorian embassy. Basically I'm thinking of a completely black page to send them to, well, stress their fax machine. But on this otherwise black page should be a picture of a banana. This banana, just like a Chiquita banana with its blue label, should have a small sticker on it reading

República Bananera del Ecuador - “Plátanos, Corrupción y Tío Sam”

So can anyone help me out here? A jpeg, bmp or whatever of a drawn or photographed banana, taken from Google images, with the above slogan neatly integrated. Please?

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Apr 12 2019 14:40 utc | 263

@Posted by: Noirette | Apr 12, 2019 10:33:00 AM | 261

Market libertarianism has nothing of progressive, why they present their policy/program as progressive?

Why there are only US people here defending Assange against tide and winds?

I think he is an American Troy Horse in Europe all the way...to major glory of the free-market, especially financial and big business...

This operation could well be related to the next European elections and how to manipulate the results there in favour of the "markets" and "banks" in front of the current turmoil reigning amongts the taxpayers, not the career politicians, like Varoufakis and the rest in that site, who one way or the other recicle themselves to continue living from what they have lived always, politics...

Posted by: Sasha | Apr 12 2019 14:46 utc | 264

Many voices over net that Snowden was smart to end (by chance) in Russia, and Assange was naïve chump who could not accommodate for his safety.... All based on the luxury of after-knowledge.

Imagine that Putin would NOT decide suddenly to save Snowden and would let him rot in airport until him dehydrated and hungry and unconscious would be loaded on board of some US plane. And then we would make serious faces and discuss at length how street-smart was Assange to secure himself a shelter in the embassy, and how inept and naïve was Snowden.

Almost 10 years ago they made different bets and for a while it seems their bets are equally good. While Snowden, in theory, had some flexibility in choosing himself "lord-protector" in practice that was a flexibility of hungry stray cats running after strangers in the street hoping some one would take it home. Assange instead had a certain accommodation that just worked, even if totally lacked flexibility and emergency exits.

But practically speaking both approaches worked well, until recent.

What changed is that WikiLeaks became needing a "sacred victim", a "martyr", just like EuroMaidan, etc.

Well, I hope you would not tell me, that a man confined into a cage of the embassy for 7 years still was ruling WikiLeaks with iron grip? Just remember Timoshenko in her "jail" - and how her party behaved in her absence. And she was in the same state, almost in the same city, she was quite adept in all the intrigues - still nominally "her" party was very content with Lady Yu becoming an impotent hyped symbol rather than queen. Or remember Lenin, nominal ruler of USSR, in his last few years.

Then, Snowden. I remember Snowden tried to leak something about Russia. "Grim non-smiling men" quickly came to him and took his whistle away. He was clearly told that Russia does not care about his crusade for abstract good and fairness, that he would keep silent about any Russian transgression he learns of. If that makes him feel accomplice - he better come to terms with his conscience, or else.
Snowden got the message and learnt to be humble, to lay low.

We are made to think Assange disrespected warnings from Ecuador and kept his hopeless but brilliant "crusade in a cage".

We're told that unlike Snowden Assange (or WikiLeaks?) did not pushed brakes. WikiLeaks (or Assange) still rushed to expose things about Moreno, while Assange was dependent on Moreno's benevolence.

Dementia and bravery?
http://urbanculture.in/images/thumb/9/91/Slab_i_otvaga.jpg/350px-Slab_i_otvaga.jpg

Or a plan?

What would WikiLeaks loose with demise of Assange? Nothing, but maybe someone's hurt feelings.
Could WikiLeaks bargain with Moreno and cease blowing their whistles on him? Sure.
Did they know breaking pots with Moreno endangers Assange? They should had know.
And they did it.
Now they have a holy martyr, they reinforced the image of organization true to the core principles even when it endangers them, plus like in USSR after Lenin demise now WikiLeaks would be free to delve into "Assange's best student" competition.

Posted by: Arioch | Apr 12 2019 14:55 utc | 265

donkeytale says:

Reportedly, Obama saw the jounalistic ethics shredded by the DoJ's backhanded path of investigation into "hacking conspiracy."

wow, what an ethical guy. i guess when he signed off on Bush's extrajudicial assassination list, even adding American citizens to it, giving himself the greatest power one human being can possess, which he then enacted with his unmanned drones, he must've been having a bad hair day or something?

Posted by: john | Apr 12 2019 15:13 utc | 266

It is somewhat remarkable that Assange still appears to maintain a high level of credibility on line. I was never really a strong supporter. When Wikileaks first appeared on the scene in 2006 the question was posed by myself and others: “was anything of interest revealed on 9/11?” as far as I know the answer was no. In fact, Mr Assange has been quoted as stating that alternatives to the official narrative on 9/11 are annoying false conspiracy theories.

What is remarkable though, is that the peculiar events leading up to the 2016 US Presidential election seem to have been completely forgotten. That despite never having been satisfactorily explained to my knowledge. Among other things: the bizarre intervention and threats by John Kerry, the cutting of Assange’s internet connection by a “state actor” the tweeting of encryption keys and the massive internet-wide denial of service attacks which followed. There were many other strange aspects such as the later refusal of Wikileaks to provide Assange “proof of life” and the Pilger interview which appeared to be manipulated. These events were followed intensely by Assange’s supporters at the time. There was widespread speculation among his supporters that Assange was dead for months following this period. Somehow this has all been forgotten.


Posted by: David Hollander | Apr 12 2019 15:50 utc | 267

Zachary Smith @169: " Regarding Mayor Pete, there is no mystery about his climbing in the polls."

I will repeat, the CIA plan was:
PotUS 44: First Woman President
--McCain was supposed to be Clinton's foil.
PotUS 45: First Black President
--44 and 45 got swapped because the CIA and corporate mass media strategists massively underestimated the desire for change in 2008 and Clinton's more moderate image wasn't selling. To try the second time to sell Clinton they needed a much more powerful inducement, thus Trump was recruited to run as a "heel"; a candidate so horrible that even McCain and the Bushes (Shrubbery?) pretended to hate him.
PotUS 46: First Gay President

The identity politics of these PotUSes was planned to shield them from criticism from the left. It is their key feature and core of the CIA plan to paralyze the American left.

These plans were concocted decades in advance, with the rough outline fleshed out all the way back in the 1970s when the CIA and associated corporate/Harvard elites began grooming Obama for the role of PotUS 45. The CIA and associates have too much invested in these plans; decades of preparations, to simply abandon them when things go wrong. This why they are plowing ahead with those plans (install a gay PotUS in 2020 or 2024, though 2024 was the original plan that they seem to be trying to move up) even though those plans have gone far off the rails since 2008 and seem to be going further astray every day.

Seeing as how the CIA and their cabal in the corporate world consider themselves vastly smarter than everyone here combined (lots of Harvard and otherwise Ivy League types in that group, many of whom are products of Generation X culture or later in which it has been verboten among parents, teachers, professors and society in general to in any way suggest that they are not geniuses, blinding them to self-knowledge and cementing in the Dunning-Kruger effect as a core character trait), the notion that the American public could have voted counter to the CIA cabal's "brilliant" plans is inconceivable. The American public's brains must have been hijacked by an enemy in the same way that the CIA and their cohorts hijacked the Brazilian voters' brains and the Ecuadoran voters' brains got Bolsonaro and Moreno elected. The CIA and their buds in big business thus see Assange as part of that foreign operation to spoil the CIA's plans. To the CIA that is the only explanation, even though they don't quite understand how it was done. When Pompeo (he's an idiot, by the way) claims that Wikileaks is a "hostile intelligence service" it is intended as the plain and honest truth as idiots like Pompeo, Crapper, and Bolton can understand it. They don't understand how Assange and Putin and Maduro and Assad and Xi and Kim wrecked their plans but they are convinced those people are behind the American voters rejecting Clinton (it's the only possible explanation, after all!). Since the CIA cannot get at the others right now they are taking their frustrations out on Assange.

Now, if getting Trump into the White House really was Plan A for the CIA/Deep State, then Assange was obviously an accomplice and agent. Why keep an asset cornered and neutralized for years and then take the risk of public backlash by conspicuously taking that asset into custody?

Because obviously installing Trump was not Plan A. Trump's win turned out to be a workable Plan B, since they could paralyze the American left with Trump Derangement Syndrome instead of identity politics. The identity politics poison was preferred, though, because that would get large portions of the left to embrace their oppressor (as they did with Obama) rather than curse him (as they are doing with Trump).


Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 12 2019 16:01 utc | 268

#267
"It is somewhat remarkable that Assange still appears to maintain a high level of credibility on line."

Hmm, let's see. He has never ever been caught in a falsehood, nor has Wikileaks with a 100% truth rating but that's not enough for you. Hmmmmm

Seems we have anti-assange trolls on the board

Posted by: arby | Apr 12 2019 16:03 utc | 269


The McCarthyism continues

While a real truth-revealing journalist, Julian Assange, is under arrest, the MSM-scented buttheads are walking free out there and still at it pushing their McCarthyism.

Matt Taibbi said it best:


"Nobody wants to hear this, but news that Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller is headed home without issuing new charges is a death-blow for the reputation of the American news media."

Even after the American news media should be crawling into some deep and shame-filled hole they are still at it.

Today -- this is from today -- we still find this type of crap:

Sourcing the Washington Post The Hill published this as a lead paragraph:


Thousands of Russian Twitter accounts turned their misinformation focus to supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in 2016 after he lost the Democratic Primary to Hillary Clinton.

Today -- that is from today -- they haven't got the word that they are the walking-dead - without reputations.

The MSM is shameless and continues with their McCarthyism.

Russian accounts targeted Sanders voters to try to boost Trump after 2016 primaries: report


Posted by: librul | Apr 12 2019 16:06 utc | 270

@269 arby - last line.. yeah, sad but true.. thanks for that chris hedges article you shared earlier.. it was bang on..

here it is again for anyone who missed it..

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-martyrdom-of-julian-assange/

Posted by: james | Apr 12 2019 16:11 utc | 271

James-- Hedges links to this Pilger article wherein he says--

"This coordinated smear campaign was detailed in a leaked Pentagon document prepared by the Cyber Counterintelligence Assessments Branch and dated March 8, 2008. The document called on the U.S. to eradicate the “feeling of trust” that is WikiLeaks’ “center of gravity” and destroy Assange’s reputation."

Posted by: arby | Apr 12 2019 16:17 utc | 272

Corbyn has said the Government should prevent the extradition (the UN condemned his incarceration in the embassy)

The charges are old ones that the Obama administration chose not to pursue: https://russia-insider.com/en/how-you-can-be-certain-us-charge-against-assange-fraudulent/ri26761

An old Craig Murray article on the Swedish allegations: https://www.sott.net/article/410960-Why-Assanges-Accuser-Anna-Ardin-is-Almost-Certainly-Lying

Posted by: Shakesvshav | Apr 12 2019 16:24 utc | 273

Here I am reading Greenwald's Twitter account--
I'd say he's pretty forthright on the Assange thing.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald

Posted by: arby | Apr 12 2019 16:28 utc | 274

Facebook moves to silence Rafael Correa -
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-12/facebook-removes-page-ecuadors-former-president-same-day-assanges-arrest

Total filth.
This is a time to remember.

Posted by: jared | Apr 12 2019 16:35 utc | 275

Dear Sasha at 154:

sentimientos encontrados = mixed feelings (not "encountered feelings") :-)

ED

Posted by: Emily Dickinson | Apr 12 2019 16:47 utc | 276

Two random thoughts on this topic:

1. I wonder if the US state department has realized yet what a great favor it did for Edward Snowden by cancelling his passport while he waited in a Moscow airport for his flight to Ecuador. Had Snowden made it to Ecuador, he would today be sitting in solitary confinement – possibly on death row – in some US maximum security prison.

2. The Assange case has been assigned to the federal court for the eastern district of Virginia, an area so heavily populated with CIA agents, CIA employees, CIA families and CIA hangers-on that not even a recently resurrected Jesus would stand a chance.

Posted by: AntiSpin | Apr 12 2019 16:47 utc | 277

Didn’t see this article from Consortium News posted (I searched for ‘Stefania’ in the thread, no hits) so apologies if repeat:

The west is failing Julian Assange. By Stefania Maurizi

excerpt:

I have worked as a WikiLeaks media partner for the last nine years, and over these nine years I have met Assange many, many times, but only once did I meet him as a free man: that was back in September 2010 ...

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/11/06/the-west-is-failing-julian-assange/

To be added to the list of articles by those who support him.



Posted by: Noirette | Apr 12 2019 16:48 utc | 278

William Gruff says:

The identity politics of these PotUSes was planned to shield them from criticism from the left. It is their key feature and core of the CIA plan to paralyze the American left

dude, the CIA eliminated the American left back in the 60s with a slew of assassinations.

i guess you're talking about the management of its rather anemic reincarnation.

Posted by: john | Apr 12 2019 17:09 utc | 279

It’s good to see that Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbot his shadow Home Secretary have come out strongly against Julian’s extradition to the USA. Assuming he plays out his appeals as long as he can it is quite likely that Diane Abbot will be the Home Secretary who ultimately decides if Julian goes to the US or not. That will be a great test and demonstration of the difference, or not, in the values of Labour and Conservatives. I hope Corbyn and Abbot will uphold their principles. That’s unless a UK judge does the decent thing first. But I won’t be holding my breath on that score.

Posted by: Phil Espin | Apr 12 2019 17:31 utc | 281

It's interesting that Assange is facing only a single charge, which dates to 2010. We have heard for two years that Russia conspired with Wikileaks to influence the 2016 election. So where are the charges related to the 2016 "Russian hacking"? There are none! Why? Because there is no evidence of any! Mueller did not charge Assange for collusion with Russia or Trump. The recent extradition/indictment did not charge Assange for collusion with Russia or Trump. That undercuts a major claim of the Russiagate hoax.

Posted by: The Headless Prophet | Apr 12 2019 17:35 utc | 282

Awww... 279 replies and still nobody mentions the INA papers?

The INA Papers are a set of documents published in February 2019, allegedly uncovering the operations of INA Investment Corp, an offshore tax haven created by the brother of Ecuadorian President Lenin Moreno. The trove of emails, phone communications and expense receipts are said to link the president and his family to a series of corrupt and criminal dealings, including money laundering and offshore accounts. The leak has sparked a congressional investigation into President Moreno for corruption. Moreno can’t be summoned for a criminal probe while he remains president. He is currently being investigated and risks impeachment.

Certainly of interest in Ecuador, but one has to think that INA might have 'uncomfortable' links back to... let's just say: "US interests". Nothing like that in the published documents so far, and the US obviously has no reason to look into it.

Nothing will come of the Ecuador Congressional investigation - Moreno's party and cronies will bury it. But the interesting part is the narrative they pushed about this leak: that WikiLeaks, and more specifically Assange, were the ones that acquired/published the documents. Because, hey - if you were holed up in a foreign embassy under asylum for years, why not dox that country's president? I'm inclined to think that deception was intentional - looks like a scheme the US would concoct. Moreno's party used it as part of the justification to turn over Assange. I suppose the $10 billion loan ($4.2B + private loans) to Moreno's bankrupt government helped, too.

WikiLeaks said neither they nor Assange had nothing to do with the INA Papers leak. [link]

Twitter seems to be furiously blowing away accounts from angry Ecuadorians. Imagine that!

Posted by: PavewayIV | Apr 12 2019 17:47 utc | 283

And now this - ICC refuse to probe US warcrimes, this is as corrupt it could possibly be.

ICC judges deny prosecution request for Afghan probe
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/04/icc-judges-deny-prosecution-request-afghan-probe-190412121528277.html

Posted by: Zanon | Apr 12 2019 17:47 utc | 284

Not much new to report about. Here are the few items I've encountered. Today's George Galloway radio show promises to be fiery:

"These are dark times. Our democracy itself is in danger. What has happened to #Assange can happen to any truthteller or even consumer of truth. Liberalism has again shown it is but lipstick on the pig of power. Parliament has betrayed the people. #Brexit was the breaking point."

And Anonymous promises revenge. Murray's comments regarding the unfitness of the judge that presided over Assange's mini-trial are worth reading as indeed "History Trembles."

Caitlin Johnstone's been very vociferous in her defense of her fellow countryman and has written some very fine words about this affair, with this truthful observation being merely one of many:

"All of Trump's most evil and destructive agendas have been not just ignored but actively supported by the Democrats. Prosecuting Assange, nuclear escalations against Russia, the Venezuela coup, military expansionism. They oppose nothing but rude tweets and racist verbiage."

Well, there are a few exceptions within the D & R Parties, but overall she's quite correct. Collectively, the words and actions taken against the ICC, Assange, and Manning are IMO an admission of having committed and being guilty of the War Crimes under investigation and puts the current and past administrations running the Outlaw US Empire since 1981 at minimum on par with Hitler's Nazis and Japan's WW2 war Criminals and deserving of the same treatment.

It's too easy to see numerous parallels between today's Outlaw US Empire and its EU vassals with the utterly disgusting behavior of elite Romans when reading Hudson's 4-part interview, as all the crimes and Outlaw behavior are grounded in Oligarchical desire/lust.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 12 2019 17:59 utc | 285

Posted by: Circe | Apr 11, 2019 6:55:43 PM | 187

The only people defending Trump at this stage are imbeciles and Russians...living on STOLEN PROPERTY in the WEST BANK...
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What are these Russians?! In 99.99% of cases, these are people who consider Israel their historical homeland and have second passports of this state. These persons are Russians by a place of birth only.
Posted by: John Smith | Apr 12, 2019 1:41:40 AM | 224

Ha-ha! I know! I was just injecting some irony and sarcasm there. Thanks to SlapHappy for interpreting it exactly right--cheeky! Zionists are loyal to Zionism above all else. But, in fact, the WB squatters are Russian by birth, yes, and they will continue to support Trump no matter what he does to others because he will help them pull off the Century heist of the West Bank and deny Palestinians sovereignty forever. So the other imbeciles who still support him high on the kool aid are in good company.👎😝

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@256 Uncoy

Upsidedown 🙃 is right on! Enjoyed reading your perspective there.

William Gruff, Mayor Petey is a Zioestablishment plant alright, AND SO WAS TRUMP, with his faux populist I love the middle class bullshet and Hillary was the foil! If you don't see that yet....?! Try bifocals.

Finally, I'm so tired of the sheepdog label some are using. I'm an idealist too; and I consider myself a purist, but when it comes to individuals like Gabbard, Corbyn and even Sanders, I turn into a realist. Yesterday, people were clamoring pitchforks in hand for Corbyn to immediately denounce Assange's arrest, already calling him a traitor to the cause.

Lemme tell you something, Tulsi was interviewed by gatekeeper Jake Tapper yesterday. She stood her ground very well, defending what Assange did as journalism and so on, but Tapper, being the conniving little zioprck he is, wanted to corner her, so depending on her answer, she as a candidate, would lose credibility with one side or the other of the liberal spectrum. It was a lose-lose question and one of those dirty trick gotcha! traps. Seeing as she was standing for journalistic freedom, he couldn't really take her down on that. So what did he do? He used the fact that she's a military veteran to test her LOYALTY and in that context asked whether she believed that cracking a DoD system code and hacking the government was right and shouldn't be punished? I can't quote her exact words, because I tried researching it but never got the entire interview, but she had to admit that if Assange did that then he should face justice or judicial consequences or something to that effect. Anyway, was I disappointed? Sure, but how do you get around a question like that? The government deserves to be hacked and the end justifies the means??? She couldn't say that IT'S POLITICAL SUICIDE. So Gabbard and Corbyn have something in common, they are under scrutiny and assault by the Zionist establishment, and I gotta tell you, I was really pissed that Tulsi accepted the Champion of Freedom Award from Rabbi Boteach and Myriam Adelson and has done and said other questionable things. I could post a link proving she's less than pure, but I decided not to. It's counterproductive. In the same manner, Corbyn was reluctantly forced to purge a member of his party for so-called antisemitic remarks because the political, media onslaught against him was relentless. Here's the thing, Gabbard is not everything I want, and will probably not win the nomination, but 8 times out of 10 I like was she says and I want to see her on that National stage at the debates shaming everyone else and putting their feet to the fire, because that's the only way that anti-establishment ideas and rhetoric will linger in the national discourse and become more prevalent and accepted paving the way for a purer candidate to become viable. It's the only way that other fledgling anti-establishment hopefuls will come out of the shadows and fight for what is right and have a path to leadership. Of course, that won't stop me from holding her feet to the fire when she digresses on her anti-establisment integrity.

Regarding Corbyn and Sanders they have way more of a chance to make it than Gabbard, and we should stand behind them no matter what...F..ck Purity! They're not Obama! Maybe they're Obama extra light, so what, as long as they pave the way for someone even better. They're not war-mongers. Corbyn's not a Zionist and he's not a warmonger. Sanders breaks with the Zionist agenda (although he could do better). Most importantly, they are all there is right now that's VIABLE. So stop undermining their chances when they're being massively assailed by the Establishment in every direction. They're being assailed this way precisely because they represent a viable threat! They are the imperfect dissident Khashoggi to the tyrant MbS. As imperfect as Khashoggi was, he was viewed by MbS as a dangerous seed and threat to his rule, and Corbyn and Sanders are the same kind of threat; Corbyn being the better of the two since he has no scintilla of Zionism in him. I know it when I see it, and he'll prove it when he becomes leader. It's actually a good thing that the Zionists and blairites in his party left to start their own shet party. That was a great purge that will free him of treachery later when loyalty matters most.

Realistically, they are the only VIABLE option out there. Jackrabbit, don't come at me with the pirate party alternative when there's not a snowball's chance in hell it will lead somewhere. Even Greens have more chance of being heard. And don't start with the Sheepdog crap either.

Bernie's in it to win it, not for anyone else, and the DNC should be microscopiied all the way to the election and Wasserman given a one way ticket to Israel!

Assange, bless him, put the Democratic Party under the magnifying glass and for this I will be eternally grateful. Because of what he did, the door opened for people like Omar, Tlaib and AOC to enter and speak more freely. That door must remain open for more anti-E mavericks to walk in and push for change. Sanders is the only candidate that can guarantee that outcome. I don't trust the others, ESPECIALLY, Butt i gieg, and his sudden rise as an unknown elitist proves my point!

Sorry to arby for this but I must heed my gut. Assange, like Sanders and Corbyn is also an imperfect vehicle. Personally, I trust Manning's integrity much more, but Assange did expose a lot of DIRT. However, now that Trump has thrown him under the bus and set his AG pitbull on him I only wish and pray Assange has THE DIRT on Trump. I say this because the dirt that will really sink Trump is very palpable if not yet visible! If Assange has it, I hope he uses it to sink the bastard and uses something else to save his neck. Then I will trust him 100%! I know it's a lot to ask, but that's why I prefer Manning as a vehicle for TRUTH, because Manning is sitting in PRISON rather than betraying the truth, what is morally right and Assange to save his own neck. Sorry, but in this case I have to be the purist! I have a sixth sense concern, and I'd rather be wrong.

We'll see how it plays out, but again I am eternally grateful to Assange for exposing U.S. war crimes and the Democratic Party for what they really are--a Zionist rat pac!

There is hope however so let's NOT please throw out the baby with the bathwater and nitpick at the only choices out there that are very, I stress very hopeful, albeit imperfect.

AYE...I still luv this site...it's a fix!

Posted by: Circe | Apr 11, 2019 6:55:43 PM | 187

The only people defending Trump at this stage are imbeciles and Russians...living on STOLEN PROPERTY in the WEST BANK...
------------------------

What are these Russians?! In 99.99% of cases, these are people who consider Israel their historical homeland and have second passports of this state. These persons are Russians by a place of birth only.
Posted by: John Smith | Apr 12, 2019 1:41:40 AM | 224

Ha-ha! I know! I was just injecting some irony and sarcasm there. Thanks to SlapHappy for interpreting it exactly right--cheeky! Zionists are loyal to Zionism above all else. But, in fact, the WB squatters are Russian by birth, yes, and they will continue to support Trump no matter what he does to others because he will help them pull off the Century heist of the West Bank and deny Palestinians sovereignty forever. So the other imbeciles who still support him high on the kool aid are in good company.👎😝

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@256 Uncoy

Upsidedown 🙃 is right on! Enjoyed reading your perspective there.

William Gruff, Mayor Petey is a Zioestablishment plant alright, AND SO WAS TRUMP, with his faux populist I love the middle class bullshet and Hillary was the foil! If you don't see that yet....?! Try bifocals.

Finally, I'm so tired of the sheepdog label some are using. I'm an idealist too; and I consider myself a purist, but when it comes to individuals like Gabbard, Corbyn and even Sanders, I turn into a realist. Yesterday, people were clamoring pitchforks in hand for Corbyn to immediately denounce Assange's arrest, already calling him a traitor to the cause.

Lemme tell you something, Tulsi was interviewed by gatekeeper Jake Tapper yesterday. She stood her ground very well, defending what Assange did as journalism and so on, but Tapper, being the conniving little zioprck he is, wanted to corner her, so depending on her answer, she as a candidate, would lose credibility with one side or the other of the liberal spectrum. It was a lose-lose question and one of those dirty trick gotcha! traps. Seeing as she was standing for journalistic freedom, he couldn't really take her down on that. So what did he do? He used the fact that she's a military veteran to test her LOYALTY and in that context asked whether she believed that cracking a DoD system code and hacking the government was right and shouldn't be punished? I can't quote her exact words, because I tried researching it but never got the entire interview, but she had to admit that if Assange did that then he should face justice or judicial consequences or something to that effect. Anyway, was I disappointed? Sure, but how do you get around a question like that? The government deserves to be hacked and the end justifies the means??? She couldn't say that IT'S POLITICAL SUICIDE. So Gabbard and Corbyn have something in common, they are under scrutiny and assault by the Zionist establishment, and I gotta tell you, I was really pissed that Tulsi accepted the Champion of Freedom Award from Rabbi Boteach and Myriam Adelson and has done and said other questionable things. I could post a link proving she's less than pure, but I decided not to. It's counterproductive. In the same manner, Corbyn was reluctantly forced to purge a member of his party for so-called antisemitic remarks because the political, media onslaught against him was relentless. Here's the thing, Gabbard is not everything I want, and will probably not win the nomination, but 8 times out of 10 I like was she says and I want to see her on that National stage at the debates shaming everyone else and putting their feet to the fire, because that's the only way that anti-establishment ideas and rhetoric will linger in the national discourse and become more prevalent and accepted paving the way for a purer candidate to become viable. It's the only way that other fledgling anti-establishment hopefuls will come out of the shadows and fight for what is right and have a path to leadership. Of course, that won't stop me from holding her feet to the fire when she digresses on her anti-establisment integrity.

Regarding Corbyn and Sanders they have way more of a chance to make it than Gabbard, and we should stand behind them no matter what...F..ck Purity! They're not Obama! Maybe they're Obama extra light, so what, as long as they pave the way for someone even better. They're not war-mongers. Corbyn's not a Zionist and he's not a warmonger. Sanders breaks with the Zionist agenda (although he could do better). Most importantly, they are all there is right now that's VIABLE. So stop undermining their chances when they're being massively assailed by the Establishment in every direction. They're being assailed this way precisely because they represent a viable threat! They are the imperfect dissident Khashoggi to the tyrant MbS. As imperfect as Khashoggi was, he was viewed by MbS as a dangerous seed and threat to his rule, and Corbyn and Sanders are the same kind of threat; Corbyn being the better of the two since he has no scintilla of Zionism in him. I know it when I see it, and he'll prove it when he becomes leader. It's actually a good thing that the Zionists and blairites in his party left to start their own shet party. That was a great purge that will free him of treachery later when loyalty matters most.

Realistically, they are the only VIABLE option out there. Jackrabbit, don't come at me with the pirate party alternative when there's not a snowball's chance in hell it will lead somewhere. Even Greens have more chance of being heard. And don't start with the Sheepdog crap either.

Bernie's in it to win it, not for anyone else, and the DNC should be microscopiied all the way to the election and Wasserman given a one way ticket to Israel!

Assange, bless him, put the Democratic Party under the magnifying glass and for this I will be eternally grateful. Because of what he did, the door opened for people like Omar, Tlaib and AOC to enter and speak more freely. That door must remain open for more anti-E mavericks to walk in and push for change. Sanders is the only candidate that can guarantee that outcome. I don't trust the others, ESPECIALLY, Butt i gieg, and his sudden rise as an unknown elitist proves my point!

Sorry to arby for this but I must heed my gut. Assange, like Sanders and Corbyn is also an imperfect vehicle. Personally, I trust Manning's integrity much more, but Assange did expose a lot of DIRT. However, now that Trump has thrown him under the bus and set his AG pitbull on him I only wish and pray Assange has THE DIRT on Trump. I say this because the dirt that will really sink Trump is very palpable if not yet visible! If Assange has it, I hope he uses it to sink the bastard and uses something else to save his neck. Then I will trust him 100%! I know it's a lot to ask, but that's why I prefer Manning as a vehicle for TRUTH, because Manning is sitting in PRISON rather than betraying the truth, what is morally right and Assange to save his own neck. Sorry, but in this case I have to be the purist! I have a sixth sense concern, and I'd rather be wrong.

We'll see how it plays out, but again I am eternally grateful to Assange for exposing U.S. war crimes and the Democratic Party for what they really are--a Zionist rat pac!

There is hope however so let's NOT please throw out the baby with the bathwater and nitpick at the only choices out there that are very, I stress very hopeful, albeit imperfect.

I still luv this site...Aye!...it's a fix!

Posted by: Circe | Apr 12 2019 18:05 utc | 286

Oh nooo! I double posted a long post! Sorrrrrry. It was a clumsy double tap on my part; I'm kicking myself in the head.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 12 2019 18:09 utc | 287

@287 ...double tap ...

I heard of a guy doing that while in the middle of a bus rollover. Other then that there is no good excuse.

Posted by: librul | Apr 12 2019 18:17 utc | 288

@272 arby... that part you highlight is quite telling, isn't it? unfortunately their work has been effective too..i too think greewald does good work.. no one is perfect.. he seems to have caved with the snowden data and also appears to be bought and paid for by omidyar, but still some good info comes out.. nothing is black and white as i see it, but that the gov't has an agenda to silence whistleblowers and anyone challenging the official narratives seems very obvious to me.. here's his article on assange from yesterday..

Posted by: james | Apr 12 2019 18:25 utc | 289

john @279

Yes, perhaps "managing the left", or the feeble farce that passes for a left in America these days anyway, is a better way of putting it.

If America had a real left it would have put a stop to this nonsense years ago.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 12 2019 18:27 utc | 290

"The Three Men; London is in Coverup Mode" is today's lead item at a source usually ridiculed and ignored. But the short item recaps much of what's been written and commented about at MoA. What differs is the angle suggested in its conclusion:

"the operation to force him out of asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy has British, not U.S. fingerprints all over it."

Unfortunately, no evidence in support is provided aside from the following assertion made in the article's opening paragraph:

"... the still-surviving lie that Russia hacked the DNC and gave the hacked data to WikiLeaks, is still central to London's intention to pit the U.S. against Russia." [My Emphasis]

As I said, different angle from an outlier.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 12 2019 18:32 utc | 291

Further to my post about The Daily Mail readers comments @213

I thought I would update the stats I extracted from the readers comments of the following article:


A soaring ego, vile personal habits, and after years in his squalid den, hardly a friend left: GUY ADAMS on the downfall of Julian Assange

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Best Rated Comments (top 8 comments)
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Seven years in what was basically solitary confinement would take a toll on anyone. 5,458 in favour, 323 against

I thank this man for opening our eyes to the disgusting, malicious and greedy world our politician live in. 5,175 in favour, 882 against

This man is a modern day hero, he's sacrificed his life so we are able to learn the truth. Shame on anyone who doesn't stand by him. This is truly disgraceful. 4,422 in favour, 1,385 against

Yes, he has charges to answer - but I am disturbed by the way his arrest is presented in a "guilty perp display", together with somewhat hysterical coverage in this paper . . . . vile personal habits? Hmmm. Skateboarding in the corridors? Dreadful. All seems a bit over the top. I am warming to this man. 3,551 in favour, 957 against

7 years will take its toll on anyone. That 7 years was still like a prison. No freedom. 2,970 in favour, 299 against

All this man did was report what the whisteblowers told him. They csme (came [sic]) to him not the other way round. Obviously the US is embarrassed by the revelations and now want to punish him. 2,739 in favour, 375 against

He looks unwell and a lot older than his 47 years. 2,151 in favour, 64 against

He published true information about atrocities. We need to protect those who are brave enough to blow the whistle . . . 2,143 in favour, 242 against

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Worst Rated Comments (Bottom 6 comments)
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I don't believe he has principles and he deserves to face American justice. 894 in favour, 1,022 against

He's an anarchist. Plain and simple. You don't get to choose which laws to break. And what he did reveal was very little substance anyway. 683 in favour, 798 against

Read that Corbyn has publicly opposed UK's possible extradition to the US, Good for him, he's got my vote. 602 in favour, 709 agaimst

He should spend the rest of his life in jail. 249 in favour, 488 against

They'll have to do the same with Trump, eventually. 276 in favour, 485 against

Ah of course the majority of DM comments support him. Joke. 211 in favour, 453 against

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This stats show a huge increase in Daily Mail reader's comments in support of Assange, not just in terms of numbers but also an increase in the ratio of support. The last time this happened was when Daily Mail reader's comments strongly opposed the escalation of western involvement in the Syrian War.

I would, perhaps, conclude that public support for Assange is much higher that expected - And that is very good news!

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A further sign of desperation is that the Daily Mail replaced the main article on Assange with one about Diane Abbott's support for Assange. Predictably there are huge numbers of negative comments on this article but these are really all about Diane Abbott not Assange.

Posted by: ADKC | Apr 12 2019 18:47 utc | 292

John @ 266

Just stating facts as they pertain to Trumpy versus Obamy w respect to Assange and Manning while some delusionals here are actually expecting Trump (or maybe some other future POTUS) to pardon Assange. When it is Trump's DoJ stringing him up. LMAO.

This ongoing thing where Trump is supposedly being victimised by his own appointees, surely what's up once again.....right and DT will also sell you the Brooklyn Bridge next time you're in NYC....you are gullible enough to buy.

Viva the Orange fascist! He's the cure for corporate fascism doncha know?

Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 12 2019 18:47 utc | 293

Partisangirl simplifies the entire affair:

"The US kills two reuters journalists and 18 civilians in Iraq.

"A journalist exposes it.

"They arrest the journalist.

"That about sums it up."

The kill/silence/smear the messenger has long been a form of Imperial behavior going back to 700BC. Today Trump threatened similar action toward anyone attempting to do anything about Outlaw US Empire criminal behavior:

"'Any attempt to target American, Israeli, or allied personnel for prosecution will be met with a swift and vigorous response,' Trump says."

The twisting of history in the service of predatory elites isn't new, but I do highly suggest reading the 4-part Michael Hudson interview available at his website so you can discover just how much was omitted from your education and how you can fill those gaps. The more informed the messenger, the more credible s/he becomes and is thus capable of stimulating others to become messengers until we can reach the point where the entire polity become messengers. A popular slogan goes: We are all Assanges now, or all Mannings, and so forth. But if we are to truly act on the slogan, then we all must become messengers. Yes, becoming one requires devoting the energy and time needed to educate yourself so that you can get out and spread the Gospel--as it is--to the brethren. As was said long ago: Rise up for you have nothing to lose but your chains. IMO, there's no other way for the ordinary citizen to change the downward trajectory of human existence.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 12 2019 19:25 utc | 294

Gruff @268

Gruff really, really wants us to know that Trump is NOT the chosen one. There's a plan, and Gruff knows exactly what it is. LOL.

But this particular bit of nonsense stands out:

Now, if getting Trump into the White House really was Plan A for the CIA/Deep State, then Assange was obviously an accomplice and agent.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 12 2019 19:31 utc | 295

One thing to watch out for is the restart of the Swedish Rape charges against Assange. This is dangerous because ;

"The other thing not widely understood is there is NO JURY in a rape trial in Sweden and it is a SECRET TRIAL. All of the evidence, all of the witnesses, are heard in secret. No public, no jury, no media. The only public part is the charging and the verdict. There is a judge and two advisers directly appointed by political parties. So you never would get to understand how plainly the case is a stitch-up. Unless you read this."


https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/09/why-i-am-convinced-that-anna-ardin-is-a-liar/

He wouldn't stand a chance.

Posted by: stonebird | Apr 12 2019 19:33 utc | 296

Wow! Has the USA come from greatness to the dung pile! God it's embarrassing! And to think the US Press made it happen. What a bunch of stooges.

Posted by: ken | Apr 12 2019 19:38 utc | 297

Circe

Circe hates Zionists. HATES 'EM!!

So I'm scratching my head about her support for sheepdog Sanders, who supports Israel and calls Hillary a "friend of 25 years".

Word to the wise: beware truth tellers that don't tell the truth and revolutionaries that won't lead a revolution/movement. Sanders has shown his true colors.

Nice to see that Circe has company, though. donkey also hates Trump, supports Sanders, and sees Putin as some kind of Zionist stooge.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 12 2019 19:47 utc | 298

@ stonebird | Apr 12, 2019 3:33:09 PM | 296

Thx !

Never knew any of those details until you gave that link.

Thx Again!

Posted by: librul | Apr 12 2019 19:52 utc | 299

stonebird @296

Good info.

It seems likely that Assange will be extradited to Sweden to reduce political repercussions in Ecuador and UK. After a trial in Sweden (and possible jail time), Assange would face extradition to USA.

USA and allies probably hope that a rape conviction would undermine Assange's support.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 12 2019 19:57 utc | 300

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