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April 25, 2019
Joe Biden Joins Crowded Primaries

Today we learned that this dude is again running for president.


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In his campaign launch video Joe Biden waxes about the "core values of America" but makes zero political proposals. He claims:

Our very democracy, everything that has made America, America, is at stake. That's why today I'm announcing my candidacy for President of the United States.

The last time Joe Biden attempted to run, he claimed that he was motivated by his son Beau's dying wish for him to become president. Biden 'leaked' that 'dying wish' himself and the details of the 'dying wish' story changed over time.

There are now 20 Democrats running in the primaries for the 2020 presidential election. Only a few of them have the potential to beat Trump.

Biden is not one of them. His biggest strength is that his well known. It is also his biggest weakness. Biden is beholden to Wall Street, supported the Iraq war resolution (vid) and the Ukrainian fascists. His speeches are full of platitudes and balderdash. Biden has no new political program. His sole point is get rid of President Trump.

There are number of 'new' Obama like Democrats running, Robert Francis O'Rourke, aka Beto, and Pete Buttigieg of whom we are warned. Another type are the known 'centrists' – Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchar. There are also a number of nonames with no chances to win. Most of them fall into the centrist/bipartisan category.

Unfortunately the Democrats handed Trump the gift of Russiagate. For more than two years they fought him on those grounds. They lost the fight when the Mueller investigation absolved Trump. The false accusations against him will become a major campaign issue. Trump will use the issue to enrage his base. He will say that it was unjust to accuse him of being a Russian stooge. Many people will agree with him if only on that point.

The fight against Trump can not be won in the center. Turnout will be the key factor. Without strong progressive positions the turnout in the general election for any Democratic candidate will be too low to win.

Three candidates fit that corner.

Elizabeth Warren has good progressive ideas. Unfortunately her personality is as likable as Hillary Clinton's. She does not connect emotionally and is difficult to sell.

Bernie Sanders may well have the best chance to beat Trump on domestic policies. But he is no progressive on foreign policy issues.

Tulsi Gabbard has the best overall program but the media ignore her and the Democratic Party establishment is strongly against her. She has no chance to win the primaries.

A Sanders/Gabbard ticket in the general election is one I probably could support. Would it be strong enough to beat Trump?

Comments

BM @ 102:
How about Jill Stein or Cynthia McKinney?

Posted by: Ian | Apr 26 2019 8:28 utc | 101

Jackrabbit and Circe, and all who talk of “deep state”:
Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote in 1848 that “The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie.”
This sentence in the Communist Manifesto is as true today as it was then. There is no “deep state”, there is only the state. It is the (only) executive committee of the ruling capitalist class.
The democratic constitutions of these states are rigged to maintain the status quo. Do the masters want Trump, Circe? Is he untouchable? No, the masters will use whoever they get.
Sorry Jackrabbit, managed democracy, duopoly, money-based electoral system and lapdog media is the way it is set up. There is no movement that is outside duopoly politics that can win within the constitutional sytem.
Unless you are suggesting Organs of People’s Power, Dual Power and destruction of the bourgeois parliamentary system, in the manner of Lenin’s “The State and Revolution”? Are you suggesting that? Then say so.

Posted by: Domza | Apr 26 2019 8:42 utc | 102

>> Bernie recently led the Senate to oppose US involvement in Yemen.
After how many years of already bombing and starving people? What a sad joke.

Posted by: oglalla | Apr 26 2019 8:56 utc | 103

oh well its settled then,
trump it is then all the way to hell, but a t least he is good for ratings, and self funded, and honest, and will drain the swamp, and and and.
and this is why we can not have nice things.
because actually we don’t want nice things, well we do – but only for us, not for others, right? and that is why we vote for the one who will least provide us with nice things, cause likablity n shit.
trump, your presnit. all the way to hell.

Posted by: Sabine | Apr 26 2019 9:02 utc | 104

>> My friends and I have talked about Bernie’s last campaign and we were disappointed in him; but was he supposed to lead an insurrection on the convention floor? Was he supposed to take up Jill Stein’s offer of the Green Party nomination? If he had burned all his bridges, would the opportunity of running for president again with the chance of winning even exist? No.
The political system and the country would be better off had he earnestly tried. He would’ve raised awareness of DNC rigging (far beyond people like us) by leaving and making a bigger stink out of that than Russophobia. It had a better chance of shifting the DNC to the left than Bernie’s constant boosterism for the party that cheated the majority of its constituents.
Instead, four years later, nothing’s changed. And he’s either not going to win again or he’ll enter office and agree to a “surge” in Iran to “clean up” the tragedy figurehead Trump inflicts before leaving office.
So, go ahead. Stick with your scumbag political team in the hope they won’t betray you like in every election in the past 50 years — even in times your team even “wins”.

Posted by: oglalla | Apr 26 2019 9:18 utc | 105

I had an experience with one of Biden’s sons, the now-dead one. I was scheduled to come into a bit of money from Delaware, where the dead son was AG, and asked how long this procedure will take-“One to two months” was the answer. It took 17 months to get the money that was duly mine. Have read that the Bidens are Masonic which may have something to do with the delay or not. Regardless, it would be wise not to trust any of them.

Posted by: The Priest | Apr 26 2019 10:01 utc | 106

I love to read MOA and b’s post. But this morning , as soon as I had launched Biden’s video I had to puke

Posted by: Nathan Mulcahy | Apr 26 2019 10:10 utc | 107

oglalla @107
When Sanders joined the race in 2015 he said he wanted to bring a progressive voice to the race. He didn’t want to WIN, just voice the progressive point of view.
The Greens urged Sanders to move his progressive ‘voice’ to their Party. He refused. OK, that might be understandable given that the Green’s weren’t able to capitalize on Nader’s run.
But when DNC-Hillary collusion was discovered, Sanders was urged to start an independent Movement for real change. He refused this also.
Such a Movement could’ve led the way to restoring Democracy and resisting Trump’s move toward war. Something like a USA Yellow Vests.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 26 2019 10:50 utc | 108

wow, over a hundred comments in about 16 hours! these US electoral politics really get folks riled up, in a syndromic sort of way.
i’m trying to imagine 2020 as the final presidential campaign based on my hope that turnout reaches an unprecedented all time low. yeah, imagine that only 4 or 5 million people come out to vote…

Posted by: john | Apr 26 2019 10:51 utc | 109

– The “Corporate” Democrats are actively working to get of Bernie Sanders as well.
– I think Beto O’Rourke has the best chance of becoming the next Democratic candidate.
– Biden is a “corporate” democrat as well. And he has very little chance of winning.
– My personal opinion is that there should be a maximum age for a president of say 70 years.

Posted by: Willy2 | Apr 26 2019 10:52 utc | 110

oglalla @105
Sanders Yemen legislation was very weak. It had loopholes that would’ve allowed USA to continue doing most of what it was already doing.
Trump did Sanders a favor by vetoing it because if Trump had not vetoed it, it would have been proven to be useless.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 26 2019 10:56 utc | 111

– The “Corporate” Democrats are actively working to get rid of Bernie Sanders as well. Other people the “Corporate” Democrat “don’t like” are e.g. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar.
– I think Beto O’Rourke has the best chance of becoming the next Democratic candidate. But he is also a “Corporate” Democrat.
– Biden is a “corporate” democrat as well. And he has very little chance of winning.
– My personal opinion is that there should be a maximum age for a president of say 70 years.

Posted by: Willy2 | Apr 26 2019 10:56 utc | 112

“No Person except a natural born Citizen, ,,,”
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 25, 2019 8:58:45 PM | 68
Could the Supreme Court invalidate a President elect on the grounds of Cesarian section used during his/her birth?

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 26 2019 11:35 utc | 113

Jackrabbit,
What you wrote in 113 is a load of crap. Your hatred of Sanders is irrational. What did Sanders do that is so egregious as to warrant your campaign of deception against him? Somebody’s going to win whether you replicate the same bullshet over and over, and that somebody is g.damn Trump! You are pushing for Trump to win by pretending that voting for Sanders is useless!!
How disingenuous are you? You’re pushing for a revolution at the 11th hour! Why haven’t you started to write this from the moment Trump won??? The time to push for a revolution was the minute, the second Trump won. But guess what?? YOU, JACKRABBIT, WERE FOR TRUMP!!! For months and months you were calling me a troll and a Hillarybot for my rightly raging against Trump. Everything I was predicting Trump would do is happening! You have no credibility at all!
You were for Trump before you were against him and now you’re choosing Trump over Sanders! Revolution, my ass! This is the first time in your previous post you’re peddling revolution! Now that we’re on the brink of another Trump presidency and if people mobilized now, Trump would have an excuse to declare Marshall law to shut it down on the grounds that it would interfere with the electoral process.
You are totally transparent! You are as fake as Trump’s populism!
Guess What? Sanders would be the first politician in Congress to encourage Revolution. The reason he became a millionaire is because he wrote books on that very subject!
An organization called Our Revolution was inspired by his efforts and his writings:

Our Revolution has seen significant electoral success since its founding in 2016. Notable politicians elected with its support include U.S. Representatives Pramila Jayapal,[6] Tulsi Gabbard,[7] Jamie Raskin,[8] Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,[9] and Rashida Tlaib;[10] mayors Randall Woodfin and Chokwe Antar Lumumba of Birmingham and Jackson, respectively; Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner; and Virginia State Delegate Lee Carter.[11] Significant nominees for office in 2018 governor’s races included Stacey Abrams,[12] Ben Jealous,[13] and Andrew Gillum.[14]
Our Revolution also endorsed Dennis Kucinich for governor in Ohio in 2018, which some Ohio Democrats questioned because of Turner’s close relationship with Kucinich’s running mate.[39]p

At least Bernie did something to help bring dissident/rebel voices to Congress!
Yet here you are trashing him left and right, pretending all of a sudden that you are for Revolution when really your goal is for people to do nothing so Trump can be re-elected!
I have you pegged to a T!

Posted by: Circe | Apr 26 2019 12:56 utc | 114

OUR REVOLUTION
inspired by Bernie Sanders writings and political efforts helped bring to Congress the most progressive wing of the Democratic Party! Ilhan Omar is included in that group.
Don’t trust Jackrabbit!!!!

Posted by: Circe | Apr 26 2019 13:15 utc | 115

I’m going to try to repost Our Revolution’s press release endorsing Ilhan Omar. Something went wrong with that link.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 26 2019 13:17 utc | 116

It’s a tired narrative and the more I learn, the less likely the official version seems. In the USA politicians including few presidents have been murdered for obstructing the progress of certain organizations. I am often in a position where I have to “weigh in” on politics and I simply say that I dont think the executive branch determines policy, domestic or international. Sure there can be a few promoted memes like gay marriage etc, but the sense I get is that poly-corporations and banking cartels will have the final word on how laws and rules shape up. More important is controlling the narrative and thus directing the collective energies of the population. If you are focused on RussiaGate, it’s difficult to pay attention to the eleventeen other vectors in play. As of late the office of the president has played a role in swaying mass behavior. Disenfranchisement and polarization being the strong suit. Rather brilliant actually: select Obama and get the lefties hopey changey while causing outrage and alienation in the other side. Of course bipolar systems are so much easier to manipulate. Then swing the pendulum to the right and select the Orange One. As a bonus bring the Russia into the narrative as the new red scare and teach the soft liberal left how to hate. I personally witnessed Trump Derangement Syndrome in many folks I know, fuming and spitting, making violent declarations and generally poisoning their own psyches with hatred. Daily bouts of exasperation and loathing have a pronounced effect on a persons overall affect. The theater and the hype surrounding the hoax is really the main event, and once the dust has cleared…..business as usual. As we enter a technocracy, things will begin to resemble Terry Gilliam’s film Brazil, complete with Information Adjustments and random terror attacks.
I’ll leave you with a few relevant quotes by FZ and a lovely little clip from South Park…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pji_IX-UacM
“Americans like to talk about (or be told about) Democracy but, when put to the test, usually find it to be an ‘inconvenience.’ We have opted instead for an authoritarian system disguised as a Democracy. We pay through the nose for an enormous joke-of-a-government, let it push us around, and then wonder how all those assholes got in there.”
Frank Zappa
“The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”
~ Frank Zappa

Posted by: Chevrus | Apr 26 2019 13:25 utc | 117

Our Revolution
NEWS
Our Revolution Affirms Support for Rep. Ilhan Omar
15th February, 2019
WASHINGTON–Our Revolution on Friday affirmed their continued support of Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar in the wake of her comments on the role of money in politics.
“We are proud to have endorsed Rep. Ilhan Omar,” said Dr. James Zogby, Our Revolution Board Member and President of the Arab American Institute. “As the first Somali American and one of the first Muslim women elected to Congress, she is precisely the voice we need speaking truth to power. Rep. Omar is a progressive champion who will continue to fight on behalf of working families. Our Revolution stands with her.”
Our Revolution supports progressive champions at every level of government. By supporting candidates backed by people, not corporations, we are aiming to transform American politics to make our political and economic systems responsive to the needs of working families.

https://ourrevolution.com/about/
Hey, Jackrabbit, you want Revolution? Stop dissing Sanders, contribute, start your own dissident Revolution or, PUT A SOCK IN IT AND LET OTHERS DO THE HEAVY LIFTING.
Walk the talk! Don’t smear Sanders and encourage people to stay home so your Trump ZIOFASCIST wins.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 26 2019 13:28 utc | 118

@121Chevrus
I personally witnessed Trump Derangement Syndrome in many folks I know…bla…bla
And I personally witnessed Trump Delusion Syndrome and you may be afflicted.
Trump is a ZIOFASCIST in league with the lunatic state and the zio-ideology. He is paving the way to bring proxy civil war to Venezuela, and to attack Iran in his second term. YOU, ARE AN ENABLER.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 26 2019 13:40 utc | 119

Modern democracy is about electing the lesser of two evils. I see Joe Biden as the lesser evil and the one with the best chances of ousting the MAGAreater evil.

Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 26 2019 13:49 utc | 120

The best system is the strategy-tolerant simple score method which allows voters to grant from (1) to (10) votes (the “score”) to each candidate. The voter who grants (10) votes to a candidate knows that she or he is allotting a 100% portion of assertable support. (8) votes would grant an 80% portion, and so on. As an example of hedge voting, (8) or (9) votes might be granted to a lesser-evil candidate. Obviously, an abstentious “non-grant” of votes would allot (0) votes, and thus no support. This would result in only ten possible vote grants for each candidate. When the election is finished all of the votes are simply added up. This system is “pure-summative”, and its entire tally procedure can be completed locally. The results represent a low quantity of data, which only needs to be passed to larger tabulations once. This would quickly disrupt the two-party lock-in, and thus enable voters to elect officials whom they truly prefer.

Posted by: blues | Apr 26 2019 14:14 utc | 121

blues, that sounds as though you really think the turnout is going to be abysmally low. So do I. The numbers have to be increased – somehow.
Why not 50 each, or maybe 100?
It really is time to scrap this system and start again. We know how it should be done. Verifiably, no money in politics, League of Women Voters, paper ballots handcounted, etc. etc.
No voting until the system is fixed – no, it’s fixed now. Until the system is corrected!

Posted by: juliania | Apr 26 2019 14:41 utc | 122

I want poor people to be able to be elected. Simple as that.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 26 2019 14:51 utc | 123

Not in order to get rich, in order to help the country.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 26 2019 15:01 utc | 124

Tulsi on MSNBC now, being given significant time, over 5 minutes now. Something has changed.
She finally said it, “We can’t give clean water to our people because we are wasting money with regime change wars. Truth is, we do, we have to have our priorities straight.” Paraphrased, and she is still on air…
b4real

Posted by: b4real | Apr 26 2019 15:18 utc | 125

Zappa was CIA. Other CIA-controlled artists were the son of the Admiral, Jim Morrison of the Doors, The Mamas and The Papas, Crosby, Stills and Nash, The Byrds, and anybody else who found their way to the (free rent) Topanga Canyon party house (located down the mountain from a CIA outpost).
Regular guest resident Charles Manson (almost single-handedly) destroyed the anti-war movement (hippies, revolutionaries).
Nobody wanted to be a hippie anymore after the false flag Tate Murders.
They all got their hair cut and became Republicans.
The Topanga Canyon hippie musicians were gate keepers. Nothing ever got far from the status quo.
Even John Lennon’s “Revolution” told the people to just relax. Destruction is reserved for the Powers That Be.
You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it’s evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world But when you talk about destruction
Don’t you know that you can count me out Don’t you know it’s gonna be alright
Alright, alright You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We’d all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We’re all doing what we can

Posted by: fastfreddy | Apr 26 2019 15:20 utc | 126

Mike Whitney writes about one aspect of Russiagate that several of us have noted–the use of the FBI and CIA to meddle in the 2016 campaign in an attempt to aid Clinton–an aspect that blows up some of the hypotheses floated here. He begins thusly:
“Did the FBI spy on the Trump campaign?–Yes
“Did the FBI place spies in the Trump campaign?–Yes
“Do we know the names of the spies and how they operated?–Yes
“Were the spies trying to entrap Trump campaign assistants in order to gather information on Trump?–Yes
“Did the spies try to elicit information from Trump campaign assistants in order to justify a wider investigation and more extensive surveillance?–Yes
“Were the spies placed in the Trump campaign based on improperly obtained FISA warrants?–Yes
“Did the FBI agents procure these warrants based on false or misleading information?–Yes
“Could the FBI establish ‘probable cause’ that Trump had committed a crime or ‘colluded’ with Russia?–No
“So the ‘spying’ was illegal?–Yes
“Have many of the people who authorized the spying, already been identified in criminal referrals presented to the Department of Justice?–Yes
“Have the media explained the importance of these criminal referrals or the impact that spying has on free elections?–No
“Is the DOJ’s Inspector General currently investigating whether senior-level agents in the FBI committed crimes by improperly obtaining warrants to spy on members of the Trump team?–Yes
“Did the FBI spy on the Trump campaign to give Hillary Clinton an unfair advantage in the presidential race?–Yes
“Did the FBI spy on the Trump campaign to gather incriminating information on Trump that could be used to blackmail, intimidate or impeach him in the future?–Yes
“Does spying pose a threat to our elections and to our democracy?–Yes
“Do many people know that there were spies placed in the Trump campaign?–Yes
“Have these people effectively used that information to their advantage?–No
“Have they launched any type of public relations offensive that would draw more attention to the critical issue of spying on a political campaign?–No
“Have they saturated the airwaves with the truth about ‘spying’ the same way their rivals have spread their disinformation about ‘collusion’?–No” [Emphasis in Original]
That’s a little more than half of what Whitney lists that’s quite damning as we must admit. That it’s not being discussed anywhere outside of a few social media accounts means Trump could use the “precedent” set by Obama to do the same in 2020. Shouldn’t we be concerned about that possibility? How is it that the Deep State made it possible for Trump to win when it did almost everything it could to derail his chances, including the use of Obama, FBI, CIA, MI6, NSA, etc?
Regardless one’s feelings about Trump, what was done as Whitney points out is a massive danger to the fundamental aspects of the democratic process, and that’s not being shown the light-of-day by BigLie Media. And we can also see why Pelosi and Clinton don’t want Impeachment proceedings to occur as the above information would finally become far more overt/public than it is currently.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 26 2019 15:21 utc | 127

The difference between the two wings of the Republican party – i.e. Democrats and alt-insane Republicans – is that Biden has been vomited out by Democrat establishment owners, while Trump was vomited out by increasingly insane Republican base voters.
Check out the recent interview by Amy Goodman of Noam Chomsky where – in a little over 10 minutes – he brilliantly explains how Trump got elected and why the Democrats lost.

Posted by: Trisha Driscoll | Apr 26 2019 15:27 utc | 128

@ Fast Freddy-130
I trust you have read Inside The LC by the late Dave McGowan.
Despite above claims FZ does have some relevant quotes. Perhaps he went a little bit off-script….

Posted by: Chevrus | Apr 26 2019 15:36 utc | 129

As for the rest of the 20 candidates, I would prefer Tulsi Gabbard out of the lot. In this respect India’s general elections, already under way, are going to be important. Gabbard needs to let go of Narendra Modi and his Hindutva BJP party – her friendship with Modi and his association with Hindutva are sure to come under scrutiny as will also any connections she and her office staff have with The Science of Identity Foundation organisation.
Posted by: Jen | Apr 25, 2019 7:22:22 PM | 55

I checked out Jen’s link regarding the Science of Identity Foundation – it is a very skillfully written Republican hit job, complete with multiple references to Gabbard’s “support for foreign dictators” Putin and Assad, to her criticism of US fake allegations of Assad chemical attacks, to her alleged Islamaphobia for arguing that genuine muslims be differentiated from islamic terrorists, and her criticism of Obama for not bombing ISIS and al-Qaida. In Part 1 the ultirior motives are relatively well hidden, but the start coming into view in Parts 2 and 3, especially in her answers to comments in Part 3.
Interesting quote from Part 2 about Gabbard’s guru Butler: “His father, the late Dr. Willis Butler, was well-known locally for his far-left political activism and his staunch opposition to U.S. involvement in foreign regime change wars, which he considered counterproductive. Dr. Butler was particularly concerned about U.S. funding of groups in Central America that he viewed as terrorists.” – sounds like at least Butler’s father had his head screwed on the right way round. If that is the origin in part of Gabbard’s opposition to regime change wars and US funding of terrorists then that at least was a positive influence (although implicitly painted as negative in the article!)
Having said that, the article raises a number of important questions and is in that respect an eye opener – it’s just that the misleading and tainted manner in which the article is written is dangerous without verifying the information – classic fake news.
I agree with Jen about the dangers of her support for Modi. I can’t help suspecting she sees the US (far-right) Indian-American elite as an important source of political funding for her seat, and that I see as problematic.

Posted by: BM | Apr 26 2019 15:38 utc | 130

@Circe-123
I am not sure why you are expressing such virtual outrage at my mere mention of the Orange One.
I never expressed support for the above executive, and i certainly do not suffer under any illusions concerning him.
The dysmorphia I described concerns those on the left hand side of the aisle who are so possessed with frustration that they quiver with anger and strike out at anything they see as opposed to their world-view. Sometimes prompting them to use ALL CAPS..!! But hey i have been lurking here long enough to have some idea of your M.O. so no hard feelins, juss keep doin whatcha doin!

Posted by: Chevrus | Apr 26 2019 15:42 utc | 131

@ Posted by: Domza | Apr 26, 2019 4:42:04 AM | 106
You’re correct.
The difference between the 19th century and the 20th/21st centuries is that, when Marx and Engels lived, they were still in the Classical Liberalism era, where illiteracy was extremely high and suffrage wasn’t universal (only rich people had the right to vote and be candidates).
If you read the works of those intellectuals of the Classical Liberalism era (Adam Smith, David Ricardo, Thomas Malthus etc etc) you’ll see the glaring sincerity in them: they openly talk about the working classes as just objects to be used for profit (a factor of production). They didn’t have to worry about the working classes opinions, since they couldn’t vote and read. On the other side, governments of the time didn’t need a façade of democracy because the dominant classes didn’t need to worry about losing elections. As a curiosity, this is one factor that explains why the gold standard survived for so long: when prices begun to drop, you couldn’t wipe out gold for the simple factor gold is a real thing, so instead production was cut off; it was a deflationary system, and each crisis resulted in mass hunger and death (the French Revolution was a result of this). But governments could afford to kill millions of hunger each crisis for the simple fact they could not vote.
After the series of communist revolutions that “haunted” Europe, and which culminated with the Russian Revolution of 1917, universal suffrage was an inevitability. The result we can see now is the façade of democracy and the creation of the deep state.

Posted by: vk | Apr 26 2019 15:47 utc | 132


Kim Dotcom
‏Verified account @KimDotcom
22h22 hours ago
Former Biden lawyer Neil MacBride became DOJ US Attorney in Virginia by waiver fraud.
Biden placed him there to run his cases. A week before Biden met with MPAA and Studio bosses at the White House MacBride personally delivered a Megaupload case update to Biden’s chief of staff.
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Kim Dotcom
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23h23 hours ago
Thank you for running for President @JoeBiden. This is exactly what I needed.
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Kim Dotcom
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23h23 hours ago
Little hint for investigative journalists. Look at the appointment of Neil MacBride as US Attorney by the White House (Biden). Look at the waiver requirements for lobbyists who have made substantial political donations. Very interesting stuff.
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Kim Dotcom
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23h23 hours ago
Barack Obama didn’t endorse Joe Biden and advised him not to run because now everyone will be looking for dirt on Biden. There’s a lot of dirt and Obama is right there with him in the mud of corruption and unlawfulness. Exciting times.
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Kim Dotcom
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23h23 hours ago
Joe Biden won’t be President.
The Megaupload case is his showstopper. Biden corrupted and weaponized the DOJ for his pay-for-play politics. My case is an unlawful mess of Biden corruption and Biden’s decision to run is a blessing for my legal team 😎
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Kim Dotcom
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23h23 hours ago
Biden was instrumental in the destruction of Megaupload. He admitted so himself at a fundraiser where we placed a lawyer at his table to ask the question. Biden got his former lawyer, copyright lobbyist Neil McBride, a senior DOJ job unlawfully to run Biden’s pay-for-play cases.”

Posted by: arby | Apr 26 2019 16:10 utc | 133

@113 john.. yeah… it’s become quite predictable.. we’re outnumbered, lol..

Posted by: james | Apr 26 2019 16:11 utc | 134

OUR REVOLUTION IS INDEPENDENT IN NAME ONLY
The organization is a nonprofit that is run as a Democratic Party cut-out. Virtually everyone on the Board is a member of the Democratic Party.
The sheep-dogging continues!
Sanders and his band of merry Democrats push the notion that they can wrest away control of the Democratic Party. However, until the stars align in such a way that they achieve their objective, they are bolstering the duopoly.
Why do they need the Democratic Party if they are relying on small donations? Because they aren’t.
This has caused turmoil in the organization:

A chief concern of Our Revolution’s discontents was reportedly the group’s tax status. In the Democratic primary, Sanders made campaign-finance reform a cornerstone of his platform and regularly railed against the current system, which allows nonprofit political organizations to accept unlimited donations from anonymous sources. Our Revolution, however, was designated a 501(c)(4) nonprofit, allowing it to accept the same “dark money” that Sanders has vehemently condemned. This did not sit well with a faction of the group’s staffers, who suggested the tax status was not only hypocritical, but would restrict the team’s ability to communicate or coordinate with any candidates or elected officials. The issue has incited a wave of criticism for Sanders. “He preaches transparency and then he tries to set up the most shadowy of shadowy fund-raising organization to support his causes,” Brady Toensing, vice chairman of the Vermont Republican Party, told the Times. “What I’m seeing here is a senator who is against big money in politics, but only when it’s not his big money,” he added.

The organization has also reportedly been beset by continued infighting as achievements for the astro-turf organization fall short: Bernie’s army in disarray.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 26 2019 16:24 utc | 135

All candidates success or failure is critically dependent upon coloring, presentation by Mainstream Media.
The five or six mega-corporations which own the MSM are heavily invested in the Military Industrial Complex and maintenance of the Status Quo.
If Biden continues to get preferential treatment all the way through, his foibles will be glossed over.
He is however a pretty unlikable guy. Not as unlikable as Hillary.
As kind as the media presented her, she was so very unlikable.

Posted by: fastfreddy | Apr 26 2019 16:27 utc | 136

“.. governments could afford to kill millions of hunger each crisis for the simple fact they could not vote.” vk
This underestimates the very real power of populations without the ‘vote.’ Long before the French Revolution governments understood that they relied upon the consent of the people, whether they voted or not (and very few did), to exercise their mandates from heaven. Starving people was not an option, as they had the power to seize food themselves and distribute it, according to popular ideas of social justice.
The truth is that in the United States only about half of the population, over the age of 18, votes. A very large proportion of the people is barred from voting, and millions more who may vote cast ballots which are never counted. Then there are those who are unregistered.
When b says that turnout is important he is understating the case. Current opinion polls show that enormous majorities of Americans favour single payer healthcare
https://www.blackagendareport.com/stop-sanders-year-corporate-long-knives
and even more favour the Green New Deal. In other words Sanders would win in a landslide if the elections reflected these polls.
Of course by “turnout” in US terms one has to mean not just the attendance at ballot boxes, or even the ‘casting of the ballots’, but the securing of those ballots and their actually being counted.
One advantage that the US ruling class has is that it has been cheating in elections for the better part of two centuries: every time new constituencies got the vote-workers, immigrants, black people, indigenous people, women, youth- hopes of change have proved to be empty.
As Glen Ford writes “The corporate Democrats will thwart Sanders’ presidential bid — by any means necessary. The national security state folks may kill him. It is inconceivable that finance capital — which is to the Democratic Party what Big Oil is to the Republicans — will tolerate a financial industry-slayer in the White House, or accept Sanders opening up the Pandora’s Box of social spending on education and all the other “rights” he talks about. This is anathema to the ruling class in the 21st century, and they will not allow such agitation to triumph in either of their houses: Democratic or Republican. The Lords of Capital have paid the cost to be the boss of these institutions, and will not be defied. This season may be the final showdown between supermajorities of Democrats and the corporate party apparatus whose job is to betray them…”

Posted by: bevin | Apr 26 2019 16:31 utc | 137

Referencing @6

Today Sloppy-Joe Biden joined the deluge of wet noodles hoping to take on MAGA Man.
T-Shirt time !
MAGA vs MEGA
No, this is not some sort of Godzilla XLVI remake movie.
Joe Biden has tossed his kippah into the ring to run for President
and now it is
Establishment Biden vs wrecking ball Trump.
MEGA
Make
Establishment
Great
Again
MEGA
Get your T-shirts – MAGA vs MEGA

If anyone does actually make a “Joe Biden for President” MEGA T-shirt
be sure to make the E a crooked E (remembering the crooked E in the infamous Enron logo)
actual picture of Enron logo found here:
https://namedropping.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/brand-value/
(in your imagination substitute MEGA where it says Enron in the photo)
M ake the
E stablishment
G reat
A gain
A big proud Establishment E for
Establishment Joe Biden !

Posted by: librul | Apr 26 2019 16:38 utc | 138

Further to Posted by: BM | Apr 26, 2019 11:38:54 AM | 134
I can see Gabbard would be seen as very valuable by Indian-Americans, who would therefore be a much more lucrative source of political funding than her own Science of Identity Foundation sources. But at the same time it allows her to show a more “respectable” funding source than SIF, which would probably be viewed somewhat negatively domesticly.
Being strongly backed by a by all appearances rather weird and questionable sect is a negative aspect. However, consider how many US politicians are backed – whether openly or not – by a weird Christian sect that sees a nuclear holocaust as a desirable opportunity for the second coming of Jesus: is not a weird sect that strongly discourages US foreign regime change wars and US funding of terrorism a positive asset in comparison?

Posted by: BM | Apr 26 2019 16:40 utc | 139

@ Piotr Berman #117

Could the Supreme Court invalidate a President elect on the grounds of Cesarian section used during his/her birth?

This was funny! After a few chuckles, I realized there was a germ of truth to it too, at least for the current Supreme Court. Depending on who the candidate was, the case would either be dismissed with a laugh, or with a solemn declaration that C-Sections weren’t in use when the Constitution was drafted and the person wasn’t eligible.
In fact, if a rightwingnut favorite was a test-tube baby from a lab in the apartheid Jewish state, they’d say that so long as the actual hardware was from the US, he was “natural born”. Seems to me I remember how Dick Cheney and George “codpiece commander” Bush both lived in Texas, and the Supremes declared that Cheney’s vacation home in the North allowed him to be on the ticket.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 26 2019 16:42 utc | 140

arby @137–
Looks like much of the 2020 election will be fought in the courts well prior to the election which will produce some casualties amongst the candidates. Some of these cases are already in the discovery process. Unfortunately, the biggest can of worms–see the Whitney citation above–is controlled by Trump. RT reports:
“Trump lashed out at former rival Hillary Clinton for ‘destroying the lives‘ of his staffers, and blasted the FBI for going light on her during her private server investigation.
“But now, he said, the ‘tables have turned‘ and ‘it’s time to look at the other side,’ calling the Russia investigation an ‘attempted overthrow of the United States government‘ and ‘a disgraceful thing.’ [Bolded Emphasis Mine; Other Emphasis Original]
I have no love for Trump or his policies, but the amazing severity of what was done by Obama and DNC in favor of Clinton ought to horrify people–read the Whitney item again! The Deep State DID NOT try to place Trump as POTUS; rather, quite clearly it did extraordinary, illegal acts to place Hillary Clinton as POTUS. And those acts and the actors involved must be made as public as possible and punished–what they did make anything Assange is accused of pale in significance! Biden is very likely linked, and we ought to ask what he knew and when he knew it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 26 2019 17:09 utc | 141

I do not find Elizabeth Warren to be anywhere near as unlikable as Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Ozzie Maland | Apr 26 2019 17:27 utc | 142

karlof1 @145:

The Deep State DID NOT try to place Trump as POTUS; rather, quite clearly it did extraordinary, illegal acts to place Hillary Clinton as POTUS.

I disagree. What the Deep State did was create the basis for Russiagate, which combined with the “Russia meddled” accusation, allowed them to initiate a new McCarthyism.
Why was the Russiagate op important? Because no one would really care much about Russian meddling – but a President suspected of being compromised could be headline news every day. In this way, MSM drills Russian hate into American/European hearts like a virtual jackhammer. Even comedians take the Trump-Putin bromance as a given.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 26 2019 17:34 utc | 143

145
It was clear that the MSM assisted Hillary greatly, heavily – early and often.
And the DNC and Clinton Obama collusion
BUT once the PTB settled with Trump, in any case, Trump was, apparently, easily persuaded to do their bidding.
All that populist, common man stuff has been thrown out, in favor of typical, mean Republican boilerplate. Including, of course, the Yinon Plan wars and the anti-communist CIA black ops and wars for the benefit of the MIC. Giggling Murderer Hillary, obviously would have gladly pursued wars at any opportunity.
Nothing – no consequences – will befall Hillary or Obama.

Posted by: fastfreddy | Apr 26 2019 17:34 utc | 144

@ dltravers #97
In my opinion this was a fantastic post. “Trumps base was maxed out” is spot-on, and that base has been melting away – at least among the Republicans with 3-digit IQs. Unless the Democrats run one of their Corporate hacks who sign on to eternal wars for the pissant apartheid state, (as Hillary did) the people who stayed home will return in droves. A peace with North Korea is barely on the radar of most US citizens, IMO. Gasoline prices going up – something they DO notice – are because of Trump’s round-heels behavior with Bolton, Pence, and the others.
Putting on my tinfoil hat for a moment, I can imagine a “last resort” effort by the Corporate/Zionist Dems should it come to Bernie vs Trump. Noble Joe Biden might declare that the nation couldn’t survive a Socialist/Communist Bernie any more than it could endure another 4 years of Trump, so he was going Third Party. If he survived as a viable candidate to the convention, he might have the mojo to grab enough Dem votes to push Trump over the finish line. Maybe with Hillary as his VP???
The fact Russiagate existed at all demonstrated to me there are nearly as many Dumb Democrats out there as half-witted Republicans.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 26 2019 17:45 utc | 145

@Jackrabbit, donkeytale, Copeland and the various other persons involved in the raging debate about a “managed democracy”, deep state, etc.
I enjoy reading Jackrabbit’s posts – I share the deep cynicism that as far as monetary and foreign policy, expecting THE PREZNIT – not matter how progressively, nationalist, anti-establishment he/she presented him/herself in the primaries and campaign – to make deep changes to the War Department and its never-ending stream of taxpayer money, or to rein in Wall Street and the Fed – is completely missing the point. It will never happen.
As soon as the nationalist/populist/leftist/anti-war candidate gets inaugurated, they are shown the proverbial other angles of the Kennedy assassination and made to realize their predicament. They do not control foreign policy inasmuch as people like John Bolton and Henry Kissinger seem to always end up closely affiliated with each successive administration, no matter whether they’re part of the Red or Blue faction of the War Party.
BUT – The fact of the matter is that judicial nominations do count. Three-letter regulatory agencies do matter. And Republicans and Trump always put corporations over people, facilitate regulatory capture, and appoint unqualified or rightwing activist judges whenever they can. It was right wing activist judges who gave Bush the presidency and led to the illegal Iraq and Afghanistan wars, even though most all Democrats in Congress voted for them, after the semi-false flag of 9/11/2001. It has generally been right wing justices and judges who have signed off on destruction of individual liberties like allowing cops to adopt military/surveillance tactics without warrants, searches, seizures and confiscation of personal property and money.
For those reasons, I do think that a candidate/President like Sanders or Gabbard – even Creepy Uncle Joe – would represent a big improvement over Trump. I refused to pull the lever for Killary – I made the mistake of voting for Obama once. But I’m not stupid enough to think that the President alone is going to make any changes to Wall Street or war policy, and Trump still has time to attack Iran (I think it’s happening right after he gets re-elected, probably following yet another false flag).
Jackrabbit is right on another thing, though – it WILL take massive Yellow Vest type protests against the next war or against the next Wall Street bailouts or against the next massive corporate merger or against the constant winnowing of the social safety net and privatization of vast aspects of the government/democratic institutions (by both parties alike, even if the Red Team wants to do it faster) and against the unjust extradition of Julian Assange, and against the constant destruction of our environment and contribution toward AGW that is happening. Voting some supposed “anti-war” or “progressive” candidate into the Oval Office is NOT going to change ANY of that minus huge numbers of people on the streets demanding it, and not stopping until the government/deep state concedes.

Posted by: KC | Apr 26 2019 18:08 utc | 146

How could I forget – huge marches against unlawful surveillance and databasing of our personal data, as facilitated by the social media and search engine giants, but also taking place independent of all that, evidenced by the MASSIVE data warehouse constructed outside of Salt Lake City, UT. Where the government is illegally or extra-legally vacuuming up all your personal information, everything you say on the phone, online, satellite images of your home, street level images of your home, and god knows what else.
Where are the American Yellow Vests to protest ANY of this stuff that goes on no matter what team is in the White House or in control of Congress?
Nowhere to be seen.

Posted by: KC | Apr 26 2019 18:14 utc | 147

Jackrabbit @147–
Of course you disagree as to agree upends your entire hypothesis. The logic of the matter fortunately dictates otherwise. I consider the matter closed. Ta!

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 26 2019 18:15 utc | 148

Joe Biden for President
T-Shirts
are now available:
https://imgur.com/gallery/bvZqzJt

Posted by: librul | Apr 26 2019 18:19 utc | 149

It’s clear that people around here are rabidly for another Trump term, 4 years that will include escalation in Venezuela and Iran and, who knows, maybe in Syria again, and perhaps Libya not to mention the ongoing child genocide in Yemen and the Zionist swindle of the Century against the Palestinians signed DJT and authored by 666 Kushner. Jackrabbit and librul are the ones most in Zionist Ahole Trump’s corner. There are others bringing up spying on poor Trump and whut not straight out of the greasy Nunes playbook, making that corrupt slimeball Trump look like a poor victim of corrupt machinations instead of the CHOSEN STOOGE of the Zionist billionaire class he really is.
ARRGH. I need a shower after reading all this!

Posted by: Circe | Apr 26 2019 18:33 utc | 150

Seems to me that anti-war, college student protests began to disappear soon after Charles Manson killed the communal hippie movement.
Any case, college students don’t seem to protest anymore and they’re not so much anti-war. I could be wrong.
Of course, if students were largely anti-war and did protest, it would not be reported or presented in any way by the MSM.
This has been a great trick – media consolidation – media totally usurped by Warmongers.
I understand that there are large protests around the white house every day, (and have been ongoing for years) which are not reported.

Posted by: fastfreddy | Apr 26 2019 18:42 utc | 151

Re Bernie, this is a zerohedge post that beautifully sums him up:
Tomsk on July 26, 2018 · at 12:08 pm EST/EDT
It is amazing how many people actually believe that Bernie Saunders is some kind of decent guy posing an “alternative” to the other 2 contenders when his sole purpose was to round up “dissenters” and funnel them into the Hillary camp.
As Alexander Azadgan points out –
1. He voted in favor of use of force (euphemism for bombing) 12 sovereign nations that never represented a threat to the U.S.:
1) Afghanistan.
2) Lebanon.
3) Libya.
4) Palestine.
5) Somalia
6) Syria.
7) Yemen.
8) Yugoslavia
9) Haiti
10) Liberia
11) Zaire (Congo)
12) Sudan
2. He has accepted campaign money from Defense contractor Raytheon, a defense contractor, he continues his undying support of the $1.5 trillion F-35 industry and said that predator drones “have done some very good things”. Sanders has always voted in favor of awarding more corporate welfare for the military industrial complex – and even if he says he’s against a particular war he ends up voting in favor of funding it.
3. He routinely backs appropriations for imperial wars, the corporate scam of Obamacare, wholesale surveillance and bloated defense budgets. He loves to bluster about corporate welfare and big banks but he voted for funding the Commodity Futures “Modernization” Act which deregulated commercial banks and created an “unregulated market in derivatives and swaps” which was the major contributor to the 2007 economic crisis.
4. Regardless of calling himself an “independent”, Sanders is a member of the Democratic caucus and votes 98% of the time with the Democrats and votes in the exact same way as war criminal Hillary Clinton 93% of the time. Sanders campaigned for Bill Clinton in the 1992 presidential race and again in 1996—after Clinton had rammed through the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), vastly expanded the system of mass incarceration and destroyed welfare.
5. The sheepdog is a card the Democratic Party plays when there’s no White House Democrat running for re-election. The sheepdog is a presidential candidate running ostensibly to the left of the establishment Democrat to whom the billionaires will award the nomination. Sheepdogs are herders,…. charged with herding activists and voters back into the Democratic fold who might otherwise drift leftward and outside of the Democratic Party, either staying home. In 2004 he called on Ralph Nader to abandon his presidential campaign.
The Democratic Party has played this “sheep dog” card at least 7-8 times in the past utilizing collaborators such as Eugene McCarthy in 1968, Jesse Jackson in 1984 and 1988, Jerry Brown in 1992, Al Sharpton in 2000, Howard Dean in 2004, Dennis Kucinich in 2008 and in 2016 was Bernie Sanders’ turn.
6. Regardless of calling himself a “socialist” he labeled the late Hugo Chávez, architect of the Bolivarian Revolution in Venezuela responsible for lifting millions of lives out of poverty “a dead communist dictator.” Then he saddled up for a photo op with Evo Morales at the Vatican and also voted to extradite former Black Panther member, Assata Shakur.
7. He refers to ISIS’ godfather and warmonger extraordinaire John McCain as “my friend and a very, very decent person.”
8. He routinely parrots the DNC lines: “the Russians hacked our elections” despite there is no evidence of such hacking, but lowered his head and tucked tail when the DNC actually rigged the primary elections against him, proving he is more loyal to the Democratic (war) Party than to the millions of people who supported him and donated to his fraudulent campaign.
9. He expressed staunch support for the aid of violently right-wing separatist forces such as the self-styled Kosovo Liberation Army, whose members were trained as Mujahideen, during Clinton’s 100-day bombing of Yugoslavia and Kosovo in 1999. He has an extensive record of supporting jihadist proxies for the overthrow of sovereign governments in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria.
10. He supported Bill Clinton’s sanctions against Iraq, sanctions that prohibited medicines for infants and children…more than 500,000 innocents killed for no other reason than that they were Iraqi.
11. He said yes in a voice vote to the Clinton-era crime Bill, the Violent Crime Control & Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which expanded the death penalty to cover 60 offenses. So he is obviously pro-death penalty.
12. In the 2016 elections, he betrayed millions of people that believed in him when after making the central point of his campaign the fight against Wall Street he instructed his followers to vote for Wall Street’s candidate, war criminal/corporate criminal Hillary Clinton.
https://imperianews.com/usa-news-analysis/liberalisms-hypocrisy-a-case-study-of-the-american-senator-bernie-sanders-and-the-ones-to-follow/
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Posted by: frances | Apr 26 2019 18:43 utc | 152

@ Posted by: Circe | Apr 26, 2019 2:33:29 PM | 154
mmm…no…
I vote Green Party
But I understand your confusion. Duopoly.
(and, by the way, you risk having your posts deleted when you get personal. Please don’t, b, I am cool with 154)

Posted by: librul | Apr 26 2019 18:45 utc | 153

On the subject of Sanders
https://off-guardian.org/2019/04/25/bernie-and-the-nuclear-capable-f35s/

Posted by: Some Random Passer-by | Apr 26 2019 19:15 utc | 154

@157 Well at least #154 wasn’t all CAPS. Not yet anyway.

Posted by: dh | Apr 26 2019 19:21 utc | 155

Pete Butt-gig is CIA
I’m not saying he is drawing a paycheck from the CIA, but he is certainly on board with their plans. That is why the Operation Mockingbird mass media is hyping him with orgasmic intensity. Butt-gig is the perfect example of identity politics standing in for ideology, and as such he perfectly exemplifies the CIA’s efforts to destroy the left.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 26 2019 19:31 utc | 156

@ Posted by: Copeland | Apr 25, 2019 9:02:40 PM | 70
> The progressive young Dems who want to shake up and change their Party will not accept an opposition party that is nothing more than an
> artifice of a political organization, dancing to the whims of the corporations.
Sure they will, or they wouldn’t still be Dems.

Posted by: Ash | Apr 26 2019 20:18 utc | 157

Flashback time !
Remember in 2013 when, during the Obama administration (wasn’t Joe the VP?), a surveillance satellite was
launched with the most dubious logo of a giant octopus sucking the face of the planet and the
out-of-this-world motto: “Nothing is beyond our reach”.
Bet Groping Joe Biden would like to have as many arms as an octopus!
“Nothing is beyond Joe’s reach!”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA-247#/media/File:NROL-39_original.jpg

Posted by: librul | Apr 26 2019 20:49 utc | 158

Sen. Elizabeth Warren became the first 2020 Democrat to directly attack former Vice President Joe Biden
I don’t expect to have a choice between Sanders and Warren by Indiana primary time, but if I do I think I’d vote for Warren. Compared with the rap sheet of Trump, her wanting to have Cherokee ancestry is utterly trivial.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 26 2019 21:27 utc | 159

@ William Gruff #160
Since you mentioned Mayor Pete, here is a bit of humor I just spotted via Naked Capitalism
A Rough Transcript of Every Interview With Pete Buttigieg

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 26 2019 21:31 utc | 160

Biden’s biggest asset is his mouth. In a candid moment (he was bragging), revealed he was the last man to talk to former Ukrainian president Yanukovych, and advised him to give it up. Now, why would Yanukovych call Biden in such crucial moment? The truth is, it was Biden who called the other, probably from the WH war room, while the state department goons were organizing the coup in the parliament. It would have been very inconvenient if the goons killed Yanukovych; the blood of the sitting president no matter how unpopular, would stick to the empire’s hands.

Posted by: Choderlos de Laclos | Apr 26 2019 21:32 utc | 161

BM @ 134:
I admit I didn’t look at the videos on that site I linked to. It was an example of many websites and blogs critical of The Science of Identity Foundation. I decided not to link to any sites and blogs favourable to the organisation (because to check on all their bona fides to exclude the possiblity of their having a direct connection or being paid by SoI would have taken up too much time) and to one that had the most introductory detail so MoA readers could drill down as far as they could tolerate.
I had also forgotten most people and websites critical of SoI would take a dim view of countries like Russia, Syria and Venezuela and anywhere else that refuses to join the choir singing in praise of the US and the neoliberal cult. Thanks for reminding me!
I perused this piece that appeared in The New Yorker magazine in 2017 on Tulsi Gabbard; it seems to be about the only “objective” article that discusses SoI in detail. Tulsi Gabbard’s aunt wrote a response to the article (revealing her own biases and criticism of her niece’s political positions by the way) which The New Yorker also published. And yes I am aware The New Yorker’s writers live and work in the same Kool Aid-infused bubble of fake news.

Posted by: Jen | Apr 26 2019 21:36 utc | 162

@ Jen #166
They must have edited the hell out of the letter Gabbard’s aunt wrote – it hardly says anything at all.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 26 2019 22:10 utc | 163

Oh, can’t you just feel the excitement?
If he were the candidate, we’d watch two Pentagon-adoring old men slugging it out. Two who never have a bad word to say about all the killing and maiming and creating desperate refugees.
And they both embrace CIA dirty operations. Biden was the one who convinced Obama to start America’s industrial-scale extrajudicial killing program in which someone’s name is put on a “kill list” by an anonymous CIA thug, and the person listed is afterwards incinerated by a missile controlled by another CIA thug playing real-life computer games in a secret basement or warehouse.
The regard for rule of law is just touching. As is the humanity.
Smiles mean nothing. Biden has a big one, but then that is almost characteristic of psychopaths. Obama, who bombed everyday somewhere for eight solid years and undoubtedly killed hundreds of thousands, has a boyishly charming one.
And two such genuinely sleazy individuals to boot, Biden and Trump. Although I do think Trump clearly leads in that quality.
By the way, it would be the first time that two men who have had hair transplants ran against each other (Biden got a new front hairline a couple of decades ago).
American politics really is about that meaningful.
Just a further word on sleaze.
Biden has a pretty sleazy record., including, when he was VP, going over to Ukraine to tell the government what to do and to seek concessions benefitting his son’s finances.
Trump’s entire career, of course, features sleaze, from working overtime to avoid paying taxes and cheating the folks who bought into many of his projects to cheating on his wife.
Class, all the way, that’s the way they do things in America.
Further information for those who think Biden’s a nice, harmless old guy.
Two items from his voting record.
He supported legislation for an amendment that would allow the individual states to overturn Roe vs Wade on abortion.
He supported legislation that was regarded by the NRA as having saved peoples’ gun rights.
I also watched the hearing over charges by law clerk Anita Hill against Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas in 1991. Biden presided because he was Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Biden’s handling of the hearing was dreadful, and I’ve since had a low opinion of him.
Anita Hill was a credible, calm, and well-spoken witness. But under Biden, she was put through ugly and embarrassing questioning. Anita Hill was treated as wrong-doer rather than as witness against one, nominee Clarence Thomas. It was Joe Biden rushing to save the Washington establishment from embarrassment over a poor Supreme Court nomination.
He ain’t quite what a lot of people think he is.
Just as with Obama, big smiles can be so deceptive.
Trump is indeed man of “no class.”
But do we call it “class” for America to have bombed its way through the Middle East over the last fifteen years, killing a good two million people and creating armies of desperate refugees? Overthrowing democratic governments? Running an extrajudicial killing operation on an industrial scale?
In some bizarre fashion, Trump is an almost perfect President for America, a perfect symbol of its violence and crassness, and proud of it.
Tulsi Gabbard is most appealing American politician to come along in a long time.
Not extreme enough in social/economic matters to be rejected automatically by the bulk of Americans, who are, in fact, very conservative and tradition-bound. Yet offering serious thoughts and efforts about peace.
And the courage to have actually done so basic a thing as talk to people in “the West’s” deliberately created hell of Syria.
And she even comes “packaged” as a veteran.
She would be hard to dream up. The more predictable political challenger types in America are represented by Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris, both about as inauthentic as true liberals as it comes. Bone-marrow establishment, both of them.
But her chance of having any impact on the ferocious face of war America displays to the world literally is zero.
The size and resources of America’s war party are almost beyond comprehension.
Were by some miracle she to become the candidate of the Democratic Party, either of two destinies would await her.
First, the Obama destiny, where a sometimes sandal-wearing young man bravely eschews the de rigueur American flag lapel pin during his campaign but ends up bombing people for every day of his eight years and indeed ends up adopting the dumb American flag lapel pin.
Or, second, the Kennedy destiny where a man who genuinely did threaten aspects of the American death machine left a fair part of his head splattered across a street in Dallas.
Anything else is just fantasy.
These are very powerful and devious people running the show in America. Anyone with her views on their wars would quickly be made to feel as embattled and threatened as President Maduro.
They’ll let someone like Gabbard speak for a while to reinforce the happy notion that America is somehow something that it’s not. After all, that’s what the press busies itself doing twenty-four hours a day.
But to actually take power and use it for peace? That’s like expecting a miracle. And I have it on good authority that miracles never extend beyond the confines of a sweet childish imagination.
Warren is a phony.
Truly among the worst, and America produces so many of them. After all, it is the native land of P. T. Barnum.

Posted by: JOHN CHUCKMAN | Apr 26 2019 22:35 utc | 164

Trisha@132. Nice video. It’s even simpler than that. Maybe just maybe people voted for Trump because they wanted what he was throwing down. His election rhetoric got him elected as it was EXACTLY what the majority of Americans wanted then and still want now.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 26 2019 22:47 utc | 165

@40 from your keyboard to The Cosmic Ear

Posted by: lindaj | Apr 26 2019 23:02 utc | 166

@ JOHN CHUCKMAN #168
At the end of your post you express approval for Gabbard, and for Warren – this:

Warren is a phony.
Truly among the worst, and America produces so many of them.

Do you have specific reasons for the respective remarks of “delight” and “venom”?

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 26 2019 23:23 utc | 167

I personally witnessed Trump Derangement Syndrome in many folks I know…bla…bla
And I personally witnessed Trump Delusion Syndrome and you may be afflicted.
Trump is a ZIOFASCIST in league with the lunatic state and the zio-ideology. He is paving the way to bring proxy civil war to Venezuela, and to attack Iran in his second term. YOU, ARE AN ENABLER.
Posted by: Circe | Apr 26, 2019 9:40:46 AM | 123
I think that delusion is a subcategory of derangement, in short Trump has a knack of driving people nuts, alas, all to often in his favor. Currently, I am not so sure if Trump leads the nation to new wars, but he is ratcheting various sanctions to truly inhuman viciousness, and wrecks havoc with human lives. He clearly taps a malign streak of American mentality that can be seen in brutality of police and in prisons that is widely supported by the voting population.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 26 2019 23:57 utc | 168

@ Circe 154
You’ve been proven correct on other things. But, you’re horribly mistaken about JR or anyone else on this board “wanting” or “trying” to re-elect Trump.
Please stop claiming this.

Posted by: oglalla | Apr 27 2019 0:07 utc | 169

@173oglalla
I certainly will not stop claiming this, I’m not blind. I’ve been hanging here long enough to recognize a play that favors Trump when I see it. Who are you to dictate to me, anyway? You’re trashing Sanders left and right with your blatant LIES and not a peep about Trump who doesn’t even deserve to shine Sanders shoes! Trump, the sleazy con artist Zionist neocon ass kisser, with zero integrity, in the pocket of same corrupt billionaires and instead you tarnish one of the most decent people in Congress!
And maybe you should look in the mirror and stop labelling people trolls! I might not agree with donkeytale on everything but his posts are way more informative than anything I’ve seen from you especially on this thread. The nerve…

Posted by: Circe | Apr 27 2019 2:25 utc | 170

“blues, that sounds as though you really think the turnout is going to be abysmally low. So do I. The numbers have to be increased – somehow.” <-- juliania | Apr 26, 2019 10:41:20 AM | 126 This was a response to my comment on "simple score voting" at -->
blues | Apr 26, 2019 10:14:15 AM | 125
I can’t respond to your comment because it appears, oddly, to have nothing to do with my comment at all. This happens regularly because people seldom “get it” the “first time around.” You really have to think about these kinds of things because they are always significantly more subtle than they look. I never expect people to “get it” at first glance!
As far as the Great “Bernie The Sheep Dog” and “Donald The NAZI” arguments are concerned, I am sure the really big problem is that no one can win arguments on blogs based on people’s motives. You can easily win arguments in courts of law based on what motivates people — But on blogs? NO YOU CANNOT! That’s just how it works. Just another very strange-but-true thing, I guess.
(My (unprovable) opinion? Bernie’s a sheep dog, and Donald is not a NAZI. What they NEVER are — Is whatever they SEEM to be!) (‘Cause they’re politicians.)

Posted by: blues | Apr 27 2019 2:27 utc | 171

@172Piotr Berman

He clearly taps a malign streak of American mentality that can be seen in brutality of police and in prisons that is widely supported by the voting population.

Yeah, I call it fascism.
And this: he is ratcheting various sanctions to truly inhuman viciousness, and wrecks havoc with human lives.
-collective punishment via imperial tyranny.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 27 2019 2:43 utc | 172

Circe after frances comment and link at 156 to suggest Sanders is one of the most decent people in congress is quite odd. Your emotions aren’t adding any credibility to your positions, quite the opposite. Nothing short of yellow vest protests will change anything in America, and even then its a toss up. Until sanders releases a statement that passes the smell test as to why he allowed the DNC to RIP OFF HIS supporters in the primaries he; is was and ever will be an establishment sheepdog. No amount of hopium changeup changes this. Kepum doing yer thing.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 27 2019 2:53 utc | 173

@Zachary Smith #57
>>Instead of Sanders, your personal choice would be………Who?
Well Tulsi Gabbard any day over a feeble, defeated 100-year-old. But if you are serious, you burn the Democratic Party to the ground for its betrayal of the American people. No reform is possible without accountability. Then you build something else for 2024–you know, the things which Americans should’ve done in the past three years but haven’t, because Putin.
By the way it’s more of a preference than a choice since I don’t have the vote in the US. But I can still die in the nuclear war which Sanders and his ilk have pushed with their RussiaGating. While this in itself should be decisive, with his RussiaGating Bernie Sanders has also shown utter contempt for the vote in the 2016 general election. RussiaGaters are seditionists and warmongers who belong in prison, not the White House.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Apr 27 2019 3:04 utc | 174

I’d have to agree with Ma Laoshi @178, there is no reforming the Democratic Party without burning it to the ground and rebuilding it from scratch. Really, only Tulsi Gabbard stands outside the RussiaGate nonsense and only marginally at that. Let Trump have it in 2020, and when the shit hits the fan, let his name be attached to it. There is no averting the upcoming disaster, regardless of who is elected in 2020.

Posted by: Hassaan | Apr 27 2019 4:55 utc | 175

@ Ma Laoshi #178
Not dying in a nuclear war is something desirable, for sure. The problem is, even if we avoid that in the short term, climate change is accelerating. The chaos being unleashed by this will cause wars, and eventually the nukes will come out anyhow.
Back when the dumbass Codpiece Commander was the Appointed POTUS of the US, I remember posting on a blog somewhere that if he would start making moves to STOP climate change, I’d support him as President For Life, and after that the Tequila Twins as his heirs. Nothing at all has been happening to STOP climate change. So far as I know, none of the candidates in either party treat it as the most serious problem on Planet Earth. We can entertain ourselves here by chattering about this or that, but unless the use of fossil fuels is halted, we’re just marking time until disaster.
BTW, I’m not making a lot of noise about Gabbard because I don’t believe there is a snowball’s chance in hell of her being allowed to gain any traction. VP is about the best she can hope for, in my opinion. One-term Old Foggy Sanders, followed by Gabbard. Alternative: One term Warren, followed by VP Gabbard. If Hillary’s fans went crazy with a single woman on the ticket, in theory they ought to go berserk with two of them.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 27 2019 5:24 utc | 176

@ ben #180
Speaking of troll patrol, in a notebook I keep are the usernames of two people I’ve identified as such, and who they probably shill for. A third person is definitely on some kind of mission, and there is a question mark by that name. Won’t be surprised if I eventually replace that “?” with the term “libertarian”. Years ago there were swarms of them making public ‘testimony’ about their religion on about every forum or blog.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 27 2019 5:32 utc | 177

Either Trump will perform his zionist duty and attack Iran, thus killing his shot at a second term, or wait until re-election.
But the Iranians are not stupid. General Soleimani, being regarded as tactically competent, could easily recommend a small false flag op to give the USA a brief taste of $200 oil.
Or, having been highly amused by the Russiagate stupidity, can I look forward to the Hindugate mirth, as only Tulsi can beat Trump.

Posted by: Sorcery | Apr 27 2019 5:33 utc | 178

According to FiveThirtyEight, April 25, 2019…
Trump’s Approval Rating is 41.1%
Trump’s Disapproval Rating is 53.00%
He’s got until 1 week before Election Day to pull a rabbit out of his hat.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 27 2019 6:59 utc | 179

Grope&change was also, one of the writers of the Patriot Act.Pompeo

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 27 2019 7:29 utc | 180

Google and I have been training each other in mind-reading for 15+ years. I presume that 41.1% is the most favourable result Google could find on short notice.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 27 2019 7:33 utc | 181

Does anyone else get the feeling that the DNC is all in for a 50-state strategy? That is, favorite offspring from just about EVERYwhere, so as to guarantee that NOBODY gets a majority on the first ballot in Milwaukee — and those-who’-til-recently-were-superdelegates can come out of their smoke-filled suites with their preferred [meal] ticket….

Posted by: John Anthony La Pietra | Apr 27 2019 10:10 utc | 182

Biden throws his hat into the ring for Dem presidential nominee 2020: he is taking the baton from Hillary Clinton, as they both represent the same ‘Washington plutocracy status quo’ (Wall St, corporate America, and the military industrial intelligence apparatus). Biden is all corporate right wing republican in action, democrat in party affiliation.
Joe Biden is the personification of everything wrong in American politics: he’s all for war on terror, war without end, regime change without end, war on immigrants, war on Russia, war on N. Korea, war on drugs to put even more people in jail. In short, Joe is a total fucking asshole.
Because of he represents the Wa status quo, there is a very good chance the DNC will pull all the strings like they did with Clinton in 2016 to make sure he wins.
Hate to say it, but there is no way in hell Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Gabbard, or any of the other progressive candidates will win. Corporate America and the CIA democrats will make damn sure of that. Some things never change in USA, and total corporate/Wall Street control of political leadership is one of them.

Posted by: Deschutes | Apr 27 2019 10:25 utc | 183

Yang is worth taking a serious look at, for his intelligence and many thoughtful ideas even if he has little chance of winning. Karlin, one of the other independent journalists I read, wrote a good review of his book yesterday: https://www.unz.com/akarlin/review-yang-war-on-normal-people/
Combine him with Gabbard (for foreign policy) and he’d be an ideal candidate.
A good president needs to be able to think for himself, and hopefully not be too senile (which some of the candidates kind of already are a bit, including the current president).

Posted by: E | Apr 27 2019 13:52 utc | 184

Piotr @ 172
Thanks for this

I think that delusion is a subcategory of derangement, in short Trump has a knack of driving people nuts, alas, all to often in his favor. Currently, I am not so sure if Trump leads the nation to new wars, but he is ratcheting various sanctions to truly inhuman viciousness, and wrecks havoc with human lives. He clearly taps a malign streak of American mentality that can be seen in brutality of police and in prisons that is widely supported by the voting population.

I will say, as I stated somewhere in this thread above, the alliance between Trump, Putin, Netanyahu, bin Salman, Erdogan and now adding in Xi (at least wrt US Afghanistan diplomatic corps drawdown–if it actually occurs. Trump is a notorious flip-flopper after all) can be viewed as a positive when taken at face value.
However, this movement represents an alliance of rightwing (alt-right if you must) intertwined global capitalist economies with the de facto result: the rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer and the environment is sliding of the charts. The noose tightens world wide.
You are either for fascism or against it

Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 27 2019 14:46 utc | 185

@John Anthony La Pietra | Apr 27, 2019 6:10:37 AM | 186
Thx for the aha! moment.
With 20+ candidates seeking the nomination the value and power of the block of Super Delegates owned by the fat cats
increases in proportion.

Posted by: librul | Apr 27 2019 14:58 utc | 186

KC @ 150

BUT – The fact of the matter is that judicial nominations do count. Three-letter regulatory agencies do matter. And Republicans and Trump always put corporations over people, facilitate regulatory capture, and appoint unqualified or rightwing activist judges whenever they can. It was right wing activist judges who gave Bush the presidency and led to the illegal Iraq and Afghanistan wars, even though most all Democrats in Congress voted for them, after the semi-false flag of 9/11/2001. It has generally been right wing justices and judges who have signed off on destruction of individual liberties like allowing cops to adopt military/surveillance tactics without warrants, searches, seizures and confiscation of personal property and money.

Exactly correct. All the dust and smoke surrounding the “duopoly” meme of course obscures the true dangers of the GOP/Trump, the combination of which has led the US right up to the brink.
The right already has the Supreme Court majority for at least the next generation thanks to Trump’s election. Obama and the Demotards errored (or as JR would say were complicit) in letting McConnell stonewall the SCOTUS nomination in 2016. As you note, control of the judiciary is no small thing for civil liberties. from 2017-2019 lower court rulings were basically the only defence against heinously unconstitutional executive orders.
Even today the GOP is using the rightwing judges in an attempt to invalidate healthcare coverage for millions, including the poorest among us who gained Medicaid coverage through ACA. ANd the SCOTUS already invalidated Medicaid for millions more of the poor by turning expansion back to the states. These are real things that matter, unlike say, deep state conspiracy theories and other cliches of alt-media dogma.
Once the court system is under total political control, Congress becomes effectively neutered. Just as in other right wing autocracies.

Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 27 2019 15:01 utc | 187

@139 should be pinned to the top of this thread as it shows how Bernie and Democrats con unsuspecting voters. Bernie is both sheepdog and spoiler in 2020.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 27 2019 15:05 utc | 188

I see the dembot asstroll is back.
Did I say that out loud?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 27 2019 15:10 utc | 189

Yes and the Trump re-election disinfo specialist has never left the building.
Shouldn’t be outside infiltrating the yellow vest movement, old-timer? No of course not, for that means you’d have to go offline for a weekend and maybe end up beaten and in jail.
Fake rebellion is the oldest fascist trick in the book.

Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 27 2019 15:15 utc | 190

donkeytale @ 189
correction:I will say, as I stated somewhere in this thread above, the political alliance between Trump, Putin, Netanyahu, bin Salman, Erdogan and now adding in Xi….

Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 27 2019 15:20 utc | 191

@Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 27, 2019 11:01:38 AM | 191
You quoted KC @150:

it was right wing activist judges who gave Bush the presidency and led to the illegal Iraq and Afghanistan wars,

The Al Gore / Joe Lieberman presidency would have had an internal contest over Iraq/Iran as the next country to invade after Afghanistan.
Remember that it was Lieberman/McCain that gave us the October 2002 bill to authorize the invasion of Iraq.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/02/us.iraq/index.html
Al Gore had a Zionist professor as his foreign policy advisor during his run for the presidency. That professor thought Iran
was more important to invade than Iraq. Zionist as VP and Zionist as foreign policy advisor, Al Gore would have had a voice in each ear, one saying “Iraq” the other saying “Iran”.
Either way, it translates to Endless Wars.
There is a dime’s width of difference between Cheney and Lieberman.
The duopoly would have served up war regardless of who won in 2000.

Posted by: librul | Apr 27 2019 15:21 utc | 192

librul –
I don’t actually disagree with what you state here but if you read my comment I’m specifically talking about the impact of the judiciary. Of course the US is a duopoly. D’uh. That is tooth grindingly obvious.
You are a third party voter. You dream of a triopoly. But, OK, 3rd parties are epic fails historically in the US. Today, in a nation of 335 million diverse people it becomes more difficult than ever to organise and fund simply to make the ballot in 50 states much less win a national election. And there are many 3rd parties competing against each other just to get to that minimal point. That is also tooth grindingly obvious. Green Party? LMAO. Sorry librul, the Green Party consists of wealthy white limousine liberals such as Jill Stein, MD.
The Green Party has been around for decades now and has a tiny sliver of a constituency wrapped around issues that have been subsumed anyway by the Bernie/AOC wing of the Democrats.
It is also interesting to not that of all the names of the duopolistic pols you reference
in your comment, exactly none of them are still politically relevant in 2018.
Because of age and death of course but also because the type of bipartisanship you cite is also dead and gone.

Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 27 2019 15:35 utc | 193

@Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 27, 2019 11:35:31 AM | 197
The BIGGEST party is the none-of-the-above voters, aka, non voters.
The BIGGEST party.
The BIGGEST fail historically and currently is the duopoly. No one, except the elite, can say it has served this country.
Duopoly == Fail !

Posted by: librul | Apr 27 2019 15:43 utc | 194

the war party wins every time, no matter who gets elected in the usa-israel, or whatever people call it.. i don’t know how change happens when it is built in that no matter who gets in, the war party is in control…
perhaps it is something about a nation incapable of examining itself, always looking outside itself and finding the demon everywhere except within it’s own being.. at this point in time it has gotten to crazy proportions.. collapse can’t happen soon enough..

Posted by: james | Apr 27 2019 15:46 utc | 195

I sorta get your point too James. Nothing will work we need a complete collapse…but what if you survive that complete collapse and you become a piece of meat for criminal survivors in a lawless future. Most assume the final civilisational collapse will resemble Rome or Russia in the 1980s.
Why does anyone with half a brain believe in this sort of soft landing? Of course because its human nature to remain optimistic for oneself while pessimistic in the overall picture. Otherwise how could we live with ourselves day to day knowing each wasted one brings us closer to our own personal extinction.
Ever seen the movie version or read Cormac McCarthy’s The Road?
Do you have young children or nieces, nephews, grandkids James?
Please explain to them how your precious coming collapse will benefit them and get back to us.

Posted by: donkeytale | Apr 27 2019 16:26 utc | 196

asstroll: it’s for the children.
Now assume the position.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 27 2019 16:43 utc | 197

Best analysis by a candidate for POTUS ever:

American foreign policy is not a failure. To comfort themselves, observers often say that our leaders—presidents, advisors, generals—don’t know what they’re doing. They do know. Their agenda just isn’t what we like to imagine it is.
To quote Michael Parenti: “US policy is not filled with contradictions and inconsistencies. It has performed brilliantly and steadily in the service of those who own most of the world and who want to own all of it.”
The vision of our leaders as bunglers, while more accurate than the image of them as valiant public servants, is less accurate and more rose-tinted than the closest approximation of the truth, which is that they are servants of their class interest. That is why we go to war.
Those who buy the elite class’s foreign policy BS, about the Emmanuel Goldsteins they conjure up every three years, are fools. Obviously Hussein and Milošević were bad; but “government bad” does not mean we must invade. Wars occur for economic, not humanitarian, reasons.
Teodoro Obiang Nguema, the president of Equatorial Guinea, is a kleptocrat, murderer, and alleged cannibal. This is him and his wife with Barack and Michelle Obama.
Islam Karimov, the president of Uzbekistan, was said to have boiled political prisoners to death, massacred hundreds of prisoners, and made torture an institution. This is him with John Kerry.
Paul Kagame, the president of Rwanda, has been involved in the assassination of political opponents, perpetrated obvious election fraud, and had his term extended until 2034. This is him with Barack and Michelle Obama.
Why have we supported Nguema, Karimov, and Kagame but not the ones who are thorns in our sides? The reasons are obvious. It’s not the lives of their citizens – it’s power for the elite class. We intervene abroad because we want to further the interest of the wealthy.
America will always pick and choose the leaders it props up and tears down. It never was and never will be for humanitarian reasons—that is a clever veil. We denounce ethnic cleansing and then fund it. We call for free elections and then support Pinochet, Stroessner, and Videla.
Opposing war is a noble and courageous act, and there will always be smears. Opposing war isn’t supporting dictators; it’s opposing death and destruction in the service of the wealthy. Never believe what they tell you about why they’re sending your kids to die. Never.

Mike Gravel

Posted by: Idealistic Realist | Apr 27 2019 17:24 utc | 198

Old Corrupt and not a Joe

Posted by: stevebakerifr@gmail.com | Apr 27 2019 19:56 utc | 199

@198 donkey.. please explain how going along in this same track of madness is going to benefit anyone? you really think voting for sanders will make a difference? lol.. i hope the koolaid tastes good!

Posted by: james | Apr 27 2019 20:02 utc | 200