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March 31, 2019

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2019-18

Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:

More morsels on the case:

El Pais: North Korean embassy assailants filmed the attack to prove their actions, say Spanish police

The 10 individuals who broke into the North Korean embassy in Madrid last month, assaulting staff members and taking audiovisual material with them, had micro-cameras that they used to provide evidence of their actions to whoever ordered and financed the operation, according to Spanish investigators.
The 35-year-old is a US resident with a Mexican passport who “owns several dubious companies and is in contact with various intelligence services.

Investigators are now exploring whether Hong Chang played a role “in other violent incidents against North Korean interests in other countries.” Near the Madrid embassy, the police found an Italian driver’s license belonging to Hong Chang but showing a fake name. The North Korean ambassador to Italy has been missing since January, and is presumed to have defected.
Investigation sources say the attack was perfectly planned down to every last detail, something that would require “significant infrastructure and financing, which the individuals involved lack.”
Even though the assailants – mostly young South Koreans living in the US and trained in military action – took away the hard drives of the embassy’s security cameras, the police was able to partially recover the footage before its automatic deletion. This is what allowed investigators to observe the intruders’ “extremely violent and professional” behavior, and to identify them.

The CIA cover group has gone silent. It may be that Adrian Hong gets another gig. Not again Libya from where he transferred Islamist to the Syrian war theater, but how about Venezuela?

Free Joseon says it is going on a hiatus

Most notably, according to AFP, Hong was spotted in Tripoli, Libya, during the Libyan civil war in 2011. He helped Libyan war victims receive treatment at hospitals in Jordan.

Mystery group tied to break-in at DPRK embassy in Madrid will suspend activities

Notably, the source said that South Korea’s embassy in Madrid also had some knowledge of the incident shortly before it took place and immediately after.

Presumably to prevent that the case gets buried, North Korea finally acknowledges the raid:

North Korea said Sunday it wants an investigation into a raid on its embassy in Spain last month, calling it a “grave terrorist attack” and an act of extortion that violates international law.
The North’s official media quoted a Foreign Ministry spokesman as saying that an illegal intrusion into and occupation of a diplomatic mission and an act of extortion are a grave breach of the state sovereignty and a flagrant violation of international law, “and this kind of act should never be tolerated.”

He claimed an armed group tortured the staff and suggested they stole communications gear.

Yves Smith: Boeing Doubles Down on 737 Max, Rejects Need for Simulator Training

Southwest Airlines contract with Boeing says that Southwest will get $1 million rebate per plane if 737 MAX pilots need extra simulator training for it.

Matt Taibbi: On Russiagate and Our Refusal to Face Why Trump Won

A long read about Pete Buttigieg, a Democratic candidate for the next presidential election.

    All About Pete

The rage with which the piece was written is beautiful.

You will be sold Buttigieg’s small-town milliennial neoliberalism the way they’re trying to sell you Beto O’Rourke’s skateboard neoliberalism. Hey kids, you like Medicare For All? So does this guy! But he’s young and from the Midwest and likes Hamilton! Bernie is old. You don’t need an old man. You need young hip progressivism.

Do not be deceived by this.

Use as open thread ...

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Continuing my comment@101
That question - Who could deny... Me, for one. That is a complete distortion of reality. It's Zionists propaganda.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 1 2019 21:57 utc | 101

Roza Shanina @94
Hi ☺
Thank you! I really appreciate that. I will add them to my reading list. Thank you also for the links.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 1 2019 22:01 utc | 102

New False Russia Narrative floated by WaPost finds its way onto CNN:

"CNN’s @FareedZakaria: 'The real puzzle remains: Why has Trump been unwilling to confront Putin in any way on any issue?

"And will Venezuela be the moment when Trump finally ends his appeasement?"

To which Brian MacDonald responds:

"Bullsh*t @CNN: Trump has told Putin to get out of Venezuela; warned Angela Merkel to stop buying Russian gas; bombed Russia's ally in Syria; armed Ukraine with lethal weapons; expelled Russian diplomats & closed consulates; expanded NATO & withdrawn the US from the INF treaty."

Seems I pegged it with my comment about the new narrative started by WaPost.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2019 22:05 utc | 103

Zach Smith @97 & mourning dove @101--

Thanks for your replies. As I noted I've yet to read the essay, but the person recommending it is a Syrian who's family has lived in the region for @50K years. Lots to catch up on after taking weekend off. Oh, and there's photo evidence of Chinese military being in Venezuela. Maybe they'll need to throw the bar and bar stools at the Chinese since the table and chairs were thrown at Russia.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2019 22:23 utc | 104

@ karlof1 #104

The Brian guy left out another thing the Orange POTUS has done recently:

Trump signs bill blocking transfer of F-35 fighter jets to Turkey

The S-400 is a really expensive missile system - I've heard the Russians are going to the S-500 mostly to cut costs. But I'd wager the S-400 is still cheaper than the amazing Patriot system.

I can't dispute your conclusion about the Bezo's WP, but this seems unusually stupid, even for them.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 1 2019 22:29 utc | 105

Here's one for our buddy psychohistorian:

Using banks to help people?! What a concept! Corbyn:

"After the financial crisis, we bailed out the banks.

"We now need to make the banking system work for people."

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2019 22:42 utc | 106

news article: "The Trump administration said Saturday that it intends to end foreign assistance programs for Guatemala Honduras and El Salvador"

comment: "Man, it sure feels good to have a President with gigantic balls. Against every criticism and opposition from the LIE-brals, this reincarnation of Ronald Reagan boldly stood up to the pernicious foreign influence of Latin American banana republics.

Making it even more incredible, we just got done with the AGPAC conference, the incredibly powerful American-Guatemalan Public Affairs Committee, where all of our elected officials grovel and swear their undying loyalty to Guatemala. Not big sack Trump, though!

My chest is swelling with patriotic pride, threatening to burst right through my sternum like the horrific monster in "Alien."

Suck on that, Guatemala! The good guys won.

No more wars for Guatemala!

News article: "President Donald Trump warned Friday he would shut down the U.S.-Mexico border "if Mexico doesn't immediately stop ALL illegal immigration coming into the United States....He tweeted that he would close the border, "or large sections of the Border, next week" unless Mexico took immediate action.

comment: The border will be closed tomorrow. No really, this isn't sarcasm, not this time. President Trump is, simply stated, The Main Man. Watcha gonna do, Mexico, when the Trumpster runs wild on you? For two years we were getting ready, now it's going to happen for sure.

Large sections, f**k yeah! In your face, everyone who got impatient during over 700 days of Trump tweeting while doing nothing, now you're gonna see how we get down. You've awakened the sleeping giant and we've got some serious morning breath!

73 dimensional chess, everyone. The six million move, two year checkmate is almost set up. It's on now, players.

Posted by: MH | Apr 1 2019 22:43 utc | 107

Chinahand has a suggestion for entrepreneurs:

"this is a pretty classic catch, espec. on the lines of Intercept snuggling with the IC it's supposedly warring with. Also think there's a market for 'Less nuanced AND less intelligent than Greenwald but I still get some things right' T shirt."

Seems Russiavape affected some like Opiates as withdrawal symptoms are being displayed by some of the more prominent liars.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2019 22:51 utc | 108

Karlof1 @ 106:

Here's how Jeremy Corbyn plans to use banks to help people: he will nationalise them as he will nationalise other public utilities and essential services and industries.

Oh my! No wonder he is Public Enemy No 1 in Britain!

Posted by: Jen | Apr 1 2019 22:58 utc | 109

karlof1 88:

William Gruff @81-- Thanks for that agenda recap! And for a pointed, unstated, reminder that voting does make a difference.

... did you forget the /sarc tag?

See my comment @91 for why I ask and note that it repeats points I've made for months. Do you disagree with my view of the 2016 Presidential election?

Gruff implies that all elections since Bush Sr. were rigged for the Deep State (each candidate was connected to CIA) yet somehow Trump inadvertently won. Does that really strike you as a credible story?

IMO, Trump's come-from-behind win against all odds is the story that the establishment wants us to believe. Just as we were led to believe Russiagate.

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karlof1 @104

Yup, your comment @42 (7:15PM) was really good.

Here's mine @6 (2:20PM):

A set up?

"Generally warning ties" will soon give way to OUTRAGE that "Trump's Syrian appeasement encouraged Putin to meddle in Venezeula!!!"

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 1 2019 22:59 utc | 110

@107 It's curious that Donald would pick on Guatemala. The government there is very pro-Israel and has been for some time. They were the first to recognize the US embassy move in Jerusalem amongst other things.....

" The Central American country relies heavily on the current Trump administration to not deport the thousands of undocumented Guatemalan immigrants currently in the U.S., as well as its reliance on stable regional and foreign trade agreements and aid (Washington Post 2017). Guatemala’s vote to side with Trump’s declaration of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital can be viewed as an effort to bolster confidence within the Trump administration and honor its longstanding ties with Israel."

Posted by: dh | Apr 1 2019 23:12 utc | 111

b- I just saw that line again, "The rage with which the piece was written is beautiful." I was going to skip it, since I'm not falling for any of them, but that's quite an endorsement and I'm going to have to read it now just for that beautiful rage. Thank you

Roza Shanina @94
I ordered The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, I even splurged and ordered Palestine: A Four Thousand Year History. I had decided to take a little look around while I was placing my order. Thank you again for the suggestions, much appreciated.

Zachary Smith @97
I didn't see your comment till I came back from the 'book store', but there's another link to add to my reading. Thank you

I'm looking forward to reading the Blumenthal article, thank you. As for your friend's recommendation, it's important to understand that the Zionist project didn't begin in 1948, it began almost as soon as British forces arrived in Palestine during WWI. By early 1919, Zionists were establishing themselves politically in Palestine and we're disposessing the majority Arab population. A Zionist Council (Committee?) was established with a very sweeping authority, even able to have British military commanders replaced and to set aside punishment for crimes committed by Zionists. At the time, these activities, and others, were very carefully hidden from the world and the Arab people outside of Palestine. I don't know how well these facts are understood, or how widely known they are, even in the Arab world. I had no idea before reading Palestine: The Reality, and I'm not even finished with it yet. This period adds a lot of clarity to the issue of Palestine and to the establishment of the Zionist state. I think it's indispensable to understanding the "conflict". Even that term is a distortion.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 1 2019 23:26 utc | 112

Craig Murray's latest blog post displays an excellent cartoon encapsulating the entire misdirection of what he's calling Muellergate. Murray provides a vid of an encounter between BigLie Luke Harding and Truth Searcher Aaron Mate, which he describes thusly:

"Harding’s interview with Aaron Mate of The Real News was a truly enlightening moment. The august elite of the mainstream media virtually never meet anybody who subjects their narrative to critical intellectual scrutiny. Harding’s utter inability to deal with unanticipated scepticism descends from hilarious to toe-curlingly embarrassing."

Murry points out that the Integrity Initiative is a genuine, proven government conspiracy to manipulate public opinion that's received only a fraction of the media outpouring devoted to the hoax Russiagate. It appears BigLie English language media are going into desperation mode and applying the Neocon game plan of doubling down on their lies as the newly introduced false narrative by WaPost exhibits. I know the cost of market entry is very high, but I can't help but think that a media outlet aimed at reporting Truth would find a large market for its programming, along with RT. Moon of Alabama TV?

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2019 23:30 utc | 113

[sigh] More trashy and worthless shallow nonsense from Jackrabbit @91.

Do you, Jackassrabbit, even bother to read the materials you reference? Here, I will help: Jackassrabbit's Kissinger reference.

Your task, Jackassrabbit, which I will point out in advance that you, Jackassrabbit, will fail to deliver on, is to copy and paste the sentence from the above Kissinger WSJ op-ed in which Kissinger voices support for Trump's MAGA isolationism. "Isolationism" is the key here, Jackassrabbit, as that is the only significant difference between Trumps MAGA and Clinton's PNAC.

I will be didactic and predict the future once again with uncanny accuracy: You, Jackassrabbit, will fail that task of backing up your own shallow claims by utilizing the feeble politically correct (neoliberal) dodge of deflecting to "You called me a bad word! Bawwww!" Indeed, to give you the weakling's out is why I called you Jackassrabbit. I am kind and considerate that way.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 1 2019 23:36 utc | 114

Long thread regarding the proposal to try Daesh members for their crimes that raises some important unreported points.

"1-The #United_States, is blocking a motion [proposal better term as Jaber notes later.] for the creation of an international court to try Islamic State members (#Isis) for crimes against humanity."

Unfortunately, no specific reason's provided as to why the Outlaw US Empire's "blocking" such action; although since Daesh was its creation, we might surmise the answer.

Note point #13 as what the UK's doing might be followed by other nations.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 1 2019 23:55 utc | 115

mourning dove @113--

Yes, I'm well aware the Zionist project long predates the British Mandate. Alan Hart has written a three-volume lengthy tome, Zionism: Real Enemy of the Jews, that now collect dust on my shelves. He has also made several YouTube vids expounding on the topic. British Historian Mark Curtis has also written extensively on the region and topic at hand. His website I linked to has lots of material to peruse. IMO, the problem is how to find enough time to read all that ought to be read while also finding time to write and discuss--all of which are reasons why academic research is so narrow and specialized. Unfortunately, such reductionism creates walls where none should exist.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 2 2019 0:14 utc | 116

Socialism (and or its prerequisite nationalization of banks and public assets - minerals, gas, oil, water, utilities) has always been met with economic sanctions, agents provocateurs, false flag attacks - and ultimately - destruction by USA aerial bombardment and (NATO - lapdogs going along - allies).

Posted by: fast freddy | Apr 2 2019 0:25 utc | 117

@115 "Note point #13 as what the UK's doing might be followed by other nations."

I'm quite surprised to see the UK taking this approach. Stripping them of their British citizenship doesn't seem unreasonable to me. But I would have expected them to make excuses along the lines of 'they were young' 'everybody makes mistakes' etc.. It's classic passing the buck I guess.

Posted by: dh | Apr 2 2019 0:34 utc | 118

If you are familiar with that period, it seems like you would recognize that claiming King Hussein was going to accept partition is incorrect. That seemed like the basis for the rest of it. Since I'm reading about that now, I had to object.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 0:48 utc | 119

I don't have the time to polish this (it is a bit cumbersome) and I only want to point out an example of linguistic trickery.

If anyone on any topic says ”Once We Know For Sure, It’ll Be Too Late” it is used to force a decision right now in favor of the person saying it by giving them a carte blanche (in the genuine and original french meaning) despite the statement itself literally signifying and admitting that:
1. they do not know for sure (hence no responsibility), and
2. because one does not know one naturally has no reason to say or claim with any certainty that something will be too late or not too late, and
3. because 1 and 2 follows from implicitly not saying "We know for sure. It is too late" and
4. because they chose not to say 3 because they knew, "felt", or guessed it is either not true or not defensible or both (thus being in some way culpable or opening themselves up to a prospect of culpability) but they want people to act as if it is in order to give them unlimited power (here we have arrived at the carte blanche) and essentially for free with no conditions, no responsibilities, and no culpability.

And if you don't do that then they would argue that you by not agreeing carry all blame, all responsibilities, and all culpability, and will have to suffer any and all penalties they can think of or pretend to link to it.

So either way they win.

There are examples of use cases for such statements that are genuine and potentially beneficial or at the very least honest errors under severe pressure but such situations do not involve anyone writing a report or a document or holding speeches until much later after the statement was proven wrong or correct, if at all. Since this is not the situation in this case it is extremely manipulative and aggressive "political" language attempting to confuse and force the reader to adopt a position against any better judgement or critical thought and to gain something from them even if they object.

This is very effective because it is simple for a majority of people to involuntarily and reflexively imagine situations where it genuinely would be too late to do anything after the fact when supplied with such a statement. A mundane example would be that "It is too late to look out for traffic after you've been hit by a car" etc. which is obviously true and then people translate (move) any such specific imagined example (including any such relevant to a specific topic) backwards into making the statement ”Once We Know For Sure, It’ll Be Too Late” into a "true" statement despite it having no predictive or even explanatory power and "true" despite the statement itself clearly saying it has no known Boolean true or false value at the time: the words have run circles around the recipient making them claim something despite that very something claiming it can not be known at that time.

Like all good propaganda it makes the victims trick themselves without requiring further effort from the outside (although that will be supplied) and convince them to demand unquestioning belief and submission due to its "obvious" nature.

If the very language itself could be said to be fascist then that is a good example of it, it is a death march of words against reason using the human mind against itself, it is highly polished propaganda language making statements like "You're either with us or against us" look like a virtuous and fair statement of fact by comparison (although of course that statement is not anything of the kind; instead that one is a false choice offered as an ultimatum and a threat).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 2 2019 0:48 utc | 120

Gruff: Trump's MAGA isolationism

LOL. You're not pleasant when drunk on Kool-Aide.

Have you forgotten the tried and true adage: watch what they DO, not what they say?


> Dancing with the Saudis and support for MbS's atrocities (Khashoggi, Yemen)?

> Bombing, then occupying Syria?

> Strengthening NATO via increased contributions and expansion?
Trump wants Brazil to join as a NATO Partner

> Strong-arming Germany to take US Liquefied Natural Gas

> Arming Ukraine?

> Toppling Maduro in Venezuela?

> Overturning decades of US policy and UN resolutions wrt Israel

- moving the US embassy to Jerusalem

- cutting humanitarian aid to the Palestinians

- recognizing Israel's annexation of the Golan Heights

Sanctions on Iran including third-parties that trade with Iran (a 'soft embargo')

- Increasing funding for a US military that that has hundreds of bases around the world - if he were an isolationist, wouldn't he be closing bases?

- Creating a "Space Force" - wouldn't an isolationist seek to reinforce treaties for the peaceful use of space?

- USA is STILL in Afghanistan and Iraq!

- Tensions with Russia, China, and North Korea have not abated. Wouldn't an isolationist that bends to "realities" of international relations (as he claims regarding Jerusalem and Golan Heights) recognize Crimea as Russian and South China Sea as Chinese?

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 2 2019 0:57 utc | 121

TL;DR: up your game folks :P

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 2 2019 1:03 utc | 122

Regarding the Mandate, in the book I'm reading, after reproducing the final draft that was ultimately adopted by the League of Nations, Jeffries sums it up, "Such, then, is the Mandate for Palestine, with which one British Government after another has had such a medley of relations, now grasping it and now consenting to receive it, now it's author and now it's executant, now enslaved to it and now interpreting it, but in every relation and in every mood 'feeding it with soft dedication all day long.'"

It depends on when you consider the Mandate to have come into existence, but in practice, the Zionist occupation of Palestine was operating under the Mandate long before it was ratified.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 1:12 utc | 123

b and barflies,

I highly recommend other articles by NATHAN J. ROBINSON at Current

Great writer. Thanks for the link, b

Posted by: daffyDuct | Apr 2 2019 1:39 utc | 124

@ karlof1 with the Jeremy Corbyn links

It is music to my ears.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 2 2019 1:52 utc | 125

I'm curious, the Syrian that you referred to, is this someone that you can personally verify is who they say they are?

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 1:55 utc | 126

Is anyone else having problems bringing up the Global Research link @97, or is it just me?

Posted by: John Anthony La Pietra | Apr 2 2019 2:28 utc | 127

@127 If you are looking for my link on Guaido, here is the link again. I just tried it and it worked.

Posted by: linda gentsch | Apr 2 2019 2:38 utc | 128

hi mourning dove (and everyone else) I'm glad that you bought the ilan pappe book, ethnic cleansing of palestine.
you are correct in stating that the whole zionist project began well before 48 and before balfour. the book goes into that in great detail. ilan pappe is from a military family within the zionist entity. that's why he hasn't been totally attacked for his books and scholarship. much of what he writes about come from a bunch of recently released idf documents.
genesis, the other book i suggested, goes into how the zionist crew here in the states turned the screws on truman to approve of the nakba. truman was really the only president who ever stood up to them. not that he gave a damn for anything but votes. but he did not like the zionists and caved into pressure, as far as i can recall the author, judis, claiming. there are some real nuggets of information in there. henry wallace used truman's position of not endorsing zionism AGAINST him in the '48 election. i had no idea. wallace is always presented as such a savior who never got his shot. hmm. i could be wrong. i could be wrong about everything. i read it a while back. it's a really good book.
how i put the whole thing together in my head is that jews have been attacked for a long time. khazarian stuff aside, it has happened. the dreyfus affair in france freaked out theodor hertzl who began the zionist project in ernest. zionists began to infiltrate palestine, mapping it and buying land when possible. a bunch of stuff happens. king david hotel, stern gang. in the defense of paranoid jews, amin al husseini did collaborate with the nazis. whatever. i'm still on the side of the palestinians. (don't you just love how flippantly i can say "a bunch of stuff happens." or "whatever." )
then it all falls apart.
and there is no solution.
it will end with the samson option.
so i read and party and despair.
nah, i just read. i am probably wrong about a bunch of my oversimplifications, and i'm sure that some of the more astute of you out there will correct me.
but it would be irresponsible not to speculate...
enjoy the read!

Posted by: roza shanina | Apr 2 2019 2:44 utc | 129

Below is a short posting from Xinhuanet about China's support of Venezuela
UNITED NATIONS, April 1 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese envoy on Monday warned against attempts to undermine the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of states by using humanitarianism as a pretext.

At a Security Council debate on international humanitarian law, Ma Zhaoxu, China's permanent representative to the United Nations, asked states to abide by the purposes and principles of the UN Charter, as well as the guiding principles for UN humanitarian assistance.

"No country should undermine the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of others by using humanitarianism as a pretext," Ma said. "Humanitarian action should strictly abide by the principles of humanity, impartiality, neutrality and independence, highlight the humanitarian nature and professionalism of such efforts and avoid being drawn into the conflict or interfering in the domestic affairs of the countries concerned."

All humanitarian agencies should follow international humanitarian law and related principles in earnest and refrain from using the delivery of humanitarian assistance for political, military and other purposes, he said.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 2 2019 2:47 utc | 130

thanks b... that article on pete is.brilliant for how scathingly clear the writer sees him.. i also recommend the article for anyone who missed it.. on holidaze here and unable to keep up! grieved, zachery and others who have shared worthwhile links - i am unable to process them now. hopefully later..

gruff and jackrabbit - giive it up, or take it somewhere else.. you both look stupid the more you continue...

where is debs?

Posted by: james | Apr 2 2019 2:51 utc | 131

A few days ago a fellow posted this on a previous thread:

In fact if any of the useless "elites" were serious rather than grandstanding and obfuscating one could give these sides a very simple ultimatum: do it this way or we take away Jerusalem forever.

Both sides claim to love that city but if they don't neither can have it: evacuate all the people, personal possessions (but none of "important" stuff that makes Jerusalem "special"), and as many animals as feasible of that city and the surroundings and nuke it straight to Hell.

Then he proceeded to defend the statement.

A few days later we find the same username declaring that a desire to merely begin fighting Climate Change is a great evil if the "wrong" words are used in stating that wish.

If the very language itself could be said to be fascist then that is a good example of it, it is a death march of words against reason using the human mind against itself, it is highly polished propaganda language making statements like "You're either with us or against us" look like a virtuous and fair statement of fact by comparison (although of course that statement is not anything of the kind; instead that one is a false choice offered as an ultimatum and a threat).

I doubt if a bored middle school kid would have this kind of writing skill. Might Jeff Bezos have given one of his junior people at the WP a bit of extra work? After all, Moon of Alabama is on their propornot list? The DNC could have a motive - Hillary doesn't poll well around here.

As for myself, I'm going to take a wild guess and say this is some patriotic work by a citizen of the apartheid Jewish state. That little cesspool hasn't gotten a lot of favorable treatment at this site, so maybe MOA is getting a bit of hopefully disruptive payback.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 2 2019 3:00 utc | 132

Linda Gentsch @128, that was the link I was having trouble with. I still get a blank screen on my phone, but here on my PC I can finally see the article. Thanks for your help and patience.

Posted by: John Anthony La Pietra | Apr 2 2019 3:03 utc | 133

Roza Shanina
I feel you, and I read and despair as well. Maybe I should drink more.
I intend to read the Truman book as well, but The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine is one that I wanted to own, and hold in my hands. I've got some downloaded books that I'm working my way through.
I read a book by Israel Shakak a little while back called Jewish History, Jewish Religion. He draws some conclusions about Jewish history by examining it from a class perspective, it was very interesting.
There is a solution - one state with equal rights. It's the ONLY solution. It's thinking of what it would take to bring it about that I slip into despair. Palestine can't be free until the rest of the world is free and the rest of the world can't be free until Palestine is free. My heart bleeds.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 3:09 utc | 134

I've taken a quick peek at the video at the link. My Spanish is very limited -- some of it comes from a language-learning record our family had when I was five, one featured band of which was "Simon Dice/Simon Says" -- but I can spot Random Guaido when he's on camera, which starts about 13 minutes in. Again, my thanks!

Posted by: John Anthony La Pietra | Apr 2 2019 3:10 utc | 135

fwiw, the guy who did the pete article wrote an article on jordan peterson about a year ago... i am just reading it now and it is quite good too!

Posted by: james | Apr 2 2019 3:13 utc | 136

@125 psychohistorian & karlof1

One key aspect about nationalizing industries as public utilities, that I suspect we never had to consider in earlier times, is that in this day and age, capital is highly mobile. This means that it can escape taxation by fleeing jurisdictions at will.

This point was made in a Gilets Jaunes piece linked from here a few weeks back. The Yellow Vests want a better distribution of the wealth, and classically this could be done by increasing taxes on wealth. But today wealth can flee to more friendly shores. Therefore the only way to fuel the more equitable distribution that the struggle in France is trying to compel, is to nationalize industries. This is the only way to keep them in the country.

This key explanation from that piece is the definitive core of the French quandary and crisis today:

Deficit spending and the redistributive system, on which the welfare state is based, are stretched to their limits, producing the crisis that sparked the protests. Keynesian deficit spending attempts to stabilize capitalism by providing shock absorbers during its inevitable crises, and is impossible in the context of chronically high debt. French public debt is at 99% of GDP, up from 67% in 2008. Lowering the debt and reinvigorating redistribution mechanisms would depend on tax revenue, but taxing the wealthy and the corporations, in the globalized economy, just makes them flee the country. The only way to keep companies, factories, and their profits in the country is to nationalize them so they can’t leave. To create a durable “redistribution,” that is, true economic equality, the means of production have to be collectively – that is, publicly – owned.


The superb history of neoliberalism by John Bellamy Foster that was linked here by karlof1 around the same time - Capitalism Has Failed—What Next? - explained that the neoliberal movement has been active for about 100 years and has always been aimed squarely at an end result of the global mobility of capital. I surmise that the thinking and forces behind this system of finance have always understood in a very existential way that nationalism is the principal threat to their unearned rents. And now, in the saturation phase of neoliberal control of economies, we see that the very crises caused by neoliberalism's destruction of regulation and control, also cannot be solved, because neoliberalism itself stands in the way.

I suspect that in a world plundered by capital unrestrained, only the socialized nations will prosper. We already see the strength of socialist economies. As each year goes by, increasingly more people and nations will see, from the examples of China, Iran, Cuba, Vietnam and others, that what must be done is to use the nation-state apparatus to throw down the rentier system. And we will find that the intellectual heavy lifting has long been done for us in the past, and finessed for us in the present day.

I wasn't a committed socialist, ever. But I can hear the tide of history, and see the damage of this corporatized and financialized age, very clearly. I rejoice to learn that there is a solution for the future world. The principles of socialism will make increasing sense to increasing numbers. And the more urgently come the crises, the more strongly will come the answers.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 2 2019 3:20 utc | 137

@ roza shanina #129

henry wallace used truman's position of not endorsing zionism AGAINST him in the '48 election. i had no idea. wallace is always presented as such a savior who never got his shot.

I wasn't aware till just now Zionism was one of Wallace's "issues" in the '48 election.

At one rally, he accused Truman of “playing politics with the lives of the people of Israel.” At another, he charged that “Jewish blood lies on the hands of Mr. Truman tonight.”

I've no idea whether or not Wallace was himself a communist, but it seems to be a historical fact that 1) he had already selected his Cabinet in preparation for Roosevelt's death and 2) two of those people were probably Communists. Lincoln made a dreadful mistake with Andrew Johnson, and it seems Roosevelt very nearly made an even worse one.

Regarding Truman's motives, I've yet to see convincing evidence either way. A lot of money changed hands in that election, but Truman himself seems to have been unusually honest. I'm into wild guessing tonight, but I'd propose Truman supported the creation of Israel for the same reason a family of crazy rednecks I know voted for Obama in 2008 - to prove to himself he wasn't a typical anti-semite (or in the case of that family, that they weren't really racists)

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 2 2019 3:21 utc | 138

@134 mourning dove - nice sharing information you! ( and all the barflies ) when i previously mentioned henry wallace attacking truman's stance regarding the creation of the zionist entity, i meant at the democratic convention of 1948, not the election of 1948.

Posted by: roza shanina | Apr 2 2019 3:23 utc | 139

@121 Jackrabbit

Once again Gruff wants everyone to believe that their lying eyes deceive them with Trump. Trump's mouth was moving, but his actions totally contradicted the previous lip service. Now Mr. Maga is starting to talk what he's walking. RUSSIA, GET OUT OF VENEZUELA! THE GOLAN IS ISRAELI TERRITORY! MORE SANCTIONS ON IRAN. MORE SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA. MORE WEAPONS FOR UKRAINE. MORE WEAPONS FOR KSA! YADA YADA YADA. Trump is a fraud just like Obama was. They both yapped a good one during the campaign about Iraq being a mistake and then turned to the PNAC agenda right before the swearing in.

Trump even hired some of the architects of the Iraq War and the torture czar, Gina. Trump wanted to off Assad and Maduro and send the military into Venezuela! Ah shucks! How's gruff to 'splain that?

Posted by: Circe | Apr 2 2019 3:44 utc | 140

@138 zachary smith - it totally tripped me out when i read that stuff about Wallace in Genesis by Judis.
it might seem to a cynical observer that support of the zionist entity has always been a "progressive" cause.
history is fascinating when one is not on the receiving end of it.

Posted by: roza shanina | Apr 2 2019 3:46 utc | 141

'MI6 chief's son, 22, is killed in car crash on a private Scottish estate as police probe 'unexplained' death'

Something is rotten in the state of 'Denmark'. Ops in UK.

Posted by: Nick | Apr 2 2019 3:56 utc | 142

Why Does the US Continue to Grovel to Israel?

It's a good question. Also a fine article by Robert Fisk.

My feeling is that this is the way a servant is supposed to behave to the head of the house. The way a slave must handle himself around 'massa'. Fisk using the word "groveling' was appropriate. Headline:

"Over one quarter of Netanyahu’s speech to Congress consisted of applause and standing ovation"

Servants do their master's bidding. The apartheid Jewish state wants a war against Iraq so as to destroy that nation, it happens. Libya? ditto. Syria, the same. Iran is a work in progress, and in 2016 it came SO close...

It wants no backtalk, so the cringing congresscritters introduce laws to criminalize criticism including serious fines and years of jail. At the State levels some of these laws have already been enacted!

The US pays an annual Tribute to God's Favorite People. This despite the money being desperately needed here for roads and schools and water works and everything else. A few billion is just a token of course - to show who is Top Dog and who isn't, for the cesspool nation has a GDP of 390 billion dollars.

So again, my answer to Fisk is Tribute.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 2 2019 3:58 utc | 143

The Democrats are eating their own candidates. They're taking down Beto, Biden, and even Mayor Petey. I think their Zionist masters want to run either Sanders who they'll frame with scary socialism, or any of the women who are sure to lose the white male dominated Rust Belt and Appalachia. Yet another sign that the Zionist Masters want Trump for a second term, cause Trump's the only one who will deliver them Venezuela, Iran AND the West Bank! That's the agenda for the second term besides screwing everyone on healthcare and putting that money towards the arms race and more welfare for the 1%.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 2 2019 4:01 utc | 144

roza shanina
Right back at ya! It's been good sharing information and talking with you. I'm glad to meet you.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 4:02 utc | 145


Correct link for my post #132

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 2 2019 4:07 utc | 146

Re: All About Pete
I have to give a contrary opinion of the article. I was thoroughly enjoying it, even laughing for part of it. When it got to the part about Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, I guess it triggered my rage. If those two are the standard by which politicians should judged, heaven help us. Pointing to Bernie Sanders in the spirit of socialism and not to, say, Eugene Debs or any of the socialist, communist, labor, anti-capitalist, anti-imperial leaders of Americas history who have put themselves on the front line in the fight against the oligarchy and the empire makes the writer seem to me like a DNC shill. I was thinking, so that's where the upper left corner of the frame is.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 4:13 utc | 147

@45 uncle tungsten

"I am reminded of a book that influenced my early years of changemakin: Village at ten mile inn. It covered the weeks and months of social and land reform as the communist liberation forces swept over the japanese and kuomingtang reactionaries. It detailed the ways villages reorganised, redistributed and took power from the accumulated wealth of the ruling class."

Thank you. Isabel Crook is a priceless find, and an extraordinary woman. She and her husband wrote that book. She would be 100 years old in 2015, according to this wonderful little article - A seasoned perspective - in the China Daily from 2014. Who can say if she is still alive? But what a wonderful, aged face, with such amazingly alive eyes.

Your comment sent me on a search last night that I am still continuing tonight. Already I learned that I was wrong to say that Mazaheri's series deals with the first study to seek and compile the rural experience of Chinese communism. Isabel Crook lived it, and still did as of 2014. I feel famished with hunger to read her stories.

Here are some things I've found. She has a website:, with a section on the Cultural Revolution, including a YouTube video with her reflections on that time - none of which I've studied yet.

The Communist Party of Great Britain website offers a review of the Ten Mile Inn work, with 3 paragraphs from the book that I want to quote here. The Kuomintang were as terrible as the Japanese to the rural Chinese people, and the Communists were their saviors. Here the Crooks sum up an aspect of the situation at Ten Mile Inn:

The greatest obstacle which the communists encountered in organising resistance was that the peasants’ spirit had been almost completely shattered by the abuses and ruinous exactions of the Kuomintang troops. The latter’s extortions had in the end become so great that the peasants thought bitterly that the Japanese could hardly be worse; and that perhaps they might even be better.

The communists also introduced a new tax system, under which those who possessed wealth were expected to pay taxes in money, but those who didn’t were asked instead to give labour for projects such as helping to build fortifications or carrying wounded soldiers away to rear positions by stretcher. And all the while, education classes were being run to help the villagers manage their own affairs.

The communists taught the women to spin and weave, so they could earn their living and their worth in society:

Perhaps the chief characteristic of the women’s work at this period, however, was that it was in the nature of an offensive on all fronts at once. It called for equal rights for women, freedom of marriage, no beating by husbands or parents-in-law, increased production of all sorts (including farm work, but especially spinning and weaving), economic support for the front through rear service (making shoes, uniforms, etc), and besides all this, literacy classes, bobbing of hair, unbinding of feet and opposition to face-saving.

It was in the places of no privilege that the great uplifting of the lowly was felt with the most revolutionary effect.

The spoiler of the Mazaheri first article that I didn't offer is that the Cultural Revolution increased the school system in rural China by a staggering amount. It deliberately invested in the highest form of wealth there is: the human capital of the nation. This is what gave rise to the great leaps forward that Deng could harness, and that continue today.

I don't have to imagine in order to understand the joy of the parent in the learning of the children. No wonder they loved Mao.

Again, thank you for the reference to Revolution in a Chinese Village: Ten Mile Inn - By Isabel Crook, David Crook

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 2 2019 4:16 utc | 148

Democrats are trying to hobble and emasculate Biden who is leading the polls on the Dem side before he even gets into the race. They're also weakening and putting Beto on the defensive with purity tests and making him look ridiculous. Now they're criticizing Petey who's been getting a small bump and lots of funs as an out-of-touch Harvard elitist who had an easy life.

They know Sanders will get tarred with the socialism label by Trump and they know none of the women will make it past the Rust Belt and Appalachia. They're deliberately trying to fix the race for Trump to win again, because that's what the Zionist masters want.

It's all rigged, people.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 2 2019 4:36 utc | 149

*funds* not fund.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 2 2019 4:39 utc | 150

Grieved @137--

Very short reply. Capital controls are anathema to neoliberals and are part of the Nationalist tool kit. It contains the damage done via the exercise of what's called Capital Flight. There's a growing recognition internationally that offshore tax havens must be expunged. And a few newer members of the House of Representatives are learning what Anti-Trust is all about. Lots of things to put back in their place provided the political will exists to carry the day. It must be recognized--particularly by those in denial--that the momentum for such reform is centering around Bernie Sanders, and that he's the only nationally recognized politico talking about those issues. The goal is to end Neoliberalism and oust Neocons from the Swamp. It won't be accomplished by one easy swing of the scythe, and the reaping must begin on 20 January 2021.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 2 2019 4:58 utc | 151

@ Circe #148

Question: Can you name me a few *good* things Biden has ever done? It's true that some Democrats are wanting to kneecap the man before he even declares, but I'm fairly sure it's not the DNC or Hillary crowd. It's the "mud sill" Democrats who despise Biden". People like me.

Beto is another one of the boys adored by DC Dems, and is - so far as I can determine - a stealth Republican. I've heard both Biden and Beto campaigned for a Republican candidate in 2016. Beto also lost to a sleezebag who even the horrible Trump trampled.

I've been teasing a friend about "Pete" - declaring I want to find out what the man stands for other than wanting to become president. Will he stop foreign wars for Holy Israel? When he is swept into office, is Single Payer one of the top things on his agenda?

Will any of these people declare we must go Cold Turkey on fossil fuels ASAP? From a standing start the Saturn Moon Rocket took under 10 years. The Manhattan project much less than 5 years. This is doable, if we can get somebody with a bullhorn into the White House who brings in real experts instead of the hacks who usually advise the President.

What it boils down to is this: I want Trump out of the White House. But I don't want him replaced by somebody as bad or worse - a "Hillary" or another "Obama".

Sanders is not a good choice. He's WAY too old, and the man will continue to screw the hell out of the Palestinians, though he may make sad speeches about them. He may be a born liar like Obama and stiff me on everything he promised. It's not a happy candidate field from my viewpoint.

Fact is, him and Warren and (possibly) Gabbard are the only ones who I'll grade above a D+. A "C" grade beats an "F" in my mind, any day.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 2 2019 5:15 utc | 152

@150 karlof1


Posted by: Grieved | Apr 2 2019 5:35 utc | 153


Sorry to inform you that Pete will be a white Obama minus the soaring speeches and ear to ear smile. He's an Afghanistan veteran who was never in combat. He's an empty suit without a jacket. Don't bet on him regarding Palestininians.

I just gotta laugh at the tempest in a teapot Dems are creating over Biden! I'm not even a Biden policy supporter either. I lean towards Sanders since none in the lot can be trusted on foreign policy, but this takedown of Biden is just way too suspect to let pass. This is from a hit piece done just a few hours ago on Biden in the (Zionist) Atlantic:

What is the “it” here, exactly? Inappropriate behavior? Biden’s own belief in the inappropriateness of that behavior? The statement takes notable refuge in the conditional tense: If. May not. May be. Can and should. But.

Now that's what I call nitpicking over nothing! WTF does this gibberish all mean anyway? All this hulabaloo because Biden smelled someone's hair and rubbed on someone's nose, when Trump went for the full on French kiss, pussy grabbing and porn star payoffs? There's way more going on here than just irrational outrage.

Here's the hit piece:

Biden allegations

If Biden gets taken down, game over, Trump can cake walk into the White House. The Zionist masters know no one else can beat Trump. They want Sanders to run against Trump, because they already lined up the infallible strategy to use against Sanders.

I'm just trying to prove it's all rigged. That's all.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 2 2019 5:54 utc | 154

Kushner in an interview with Fox revealed Trump will have a fabulous campaign, meanwhile, Democrats are eating their own. I can't believe Dems are ready to give Trump four more years to make more catastrophic irreversible moves. They're willing to sacrifice the Supreme Court, every other lower Court, healthcare, climate change and the Dreamers, and more for what effing Israel wants, and it wants Trump! I feel sick.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 2 2019 6:16 utc | 155

Yes linda, Russians are already onto the 'stuxnet' type control systems hack on the dam.

Learn to code, ya fuck you ole CIA bitches we got you now old c+ code bitches.

Posted by: Gravatomic | Apr 2 2019 8:07 utc | 156

Zakharova on Mueller Report: Western Journalists Are “Riff-Raff” Totally to Blame For Russia Hoax!

Good points....

Posted by: John Smith | Apr 2 2019 9:57 utc | 157

European values:

Posted by: John Smith | Apr 2 2019 10:02 utc | 158

NSA Whistleblower: Government Collecting Everything You Do

Posted by: John Smith | Apr 2 2019 10:09 utc | 159

The 350,000 Palestinian inhabitants of occupied East Jerusalem are caught between a rock and hard place, as Israel works ever harder to remove them from the holy city in which they were born, analysts and residents warn.

Posted by: John Smith | Apr 2 2019 10:09 utc | 160

When you are the largest bank in the United States and you’ve been compared to the Gambino crime family in a book by two trial lawyers; when you’ve pleaded guilty to three criminal felony counts brought by the United States Justice Department in the past five years; when you’ve paid over $30 billion in fines over charges of crimes against the public and investors since 2008; and when you’ve had an unprecedented string of employees leaping to their death from buildings, dropping dead at home or on the street, and two alleged murder-suicides by employees — all in just the past five years – one might think that law enforcement might show some interest – especially since this employer – JPMorgan Chase – holds tens of billions of dollars of Bank-Owned Life Insurance (BOLI) on its workers. (This death benefit, by the way, pays tax-free to the corporation, not the employee’s family.)

But when it comes to JPMorgan Chase and law enforcement, there does not seem to be a morsel of curiosity over the continuing sudden deaths of its computer technology workers – no matter how high up the corporate ladder they rank or how many floors they are alleged to fall to their death.

Posted by: John Smith | Apr 2 2019 10:12 utc | 161


Biden is a creepy player. There's no way I'd let any female near the guy...

A few posts into the thread and its link after link after link. The man is beyond trustworthy

Posted by: Some Random Passer-by | Apr 2 2019 10:26 utc | 162

Once again Jackrabbit @121 completely fails to respond to and defend the point he himself raised and then spun off on tangents to deflect from having to defend that point. For those with short attention spans that Jackrabbit depends upon for rhetorical success, harken back to post #91: "Trump was the ONLY (MAGA!) candidate in the race after Kissinger had urged MAGA..." Here Jackrabbit is clearly talking about Trump's campaign platform and not Trump's secret agenda. After all, what good is a secret agenda for swaying voters in a campaign? The voters do not know about it and thus cannot be swayed. If instead Jackrabbit is just circuitously referring to getting candidates getting the elites on their side with their secret agendas, the once again Trump trails Clinton because Clinton had already demonstrated her enthusiastic support for pushing forward the elites' Project for a New American Century.

As we can see, Jackrabbit's insistence upon things like Kissinger playing kingmaker and anointing Trump are not only not supported by anything Jackrabbit can quote from the material that he himself references as evidence, but these claims are not even internally logically consistent.

While I could debunk Jackrabbit's claims individually, what's the point when he has demonstrated that he will simply deflect from defending his previous claims and pivot to spew a batch of fresh unsupported claims? And when he runs out of claims he will recycle back to ones that have been debunked like they are refreshed simply from not having been restated in a couple posts? This, by the way, being classic astroturf behavior.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 2 2019 11:20 utc | 163

Hey Gruff, don't you know that Hillary had to stay true to the Iran deal, when taking down Iran is part of PNAC? Don't you know that funding the MIC by hundreds of billions more is part of PNAC and Dems didn't see this as necessary and had other priorities? Right there Trump is delivering on both and more, that Hillary couldn't deliver on within her Party's platform. Trump was the chosen one for advancing PNAC. Your argument is bogus and lame and not based on fact and reality. Give it up; it's getting real boring.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 2 2019 14:06 utc | 164

Very good piece by John Carville on Zionism and why we need to be less intimidated by it:

. . . [T]he fact that there exist individuals who identify as Jewish but who reject (consciously or otherwise) the discriminatory ideology of Judaic teaching does not mean that we cannot or should not be allowed to talk meaningfully about the role of supremacist and genocidal teachings within Jewish thought as a Jewish phenomenon as a whole, just as the fact that there are many Americans who have opposed US exceptionalism throughout history does not mean that we cannot or should not be allowed to talk meaningfully about American exceptionalism. This should be fairly obvious. . . . It’s quite simple really. The fact that there are people who see themselves as Jewish who reject (to greater or lesser degree) Jewish supremacist ideology and activity does not mean that we cannot and should not be allowed to talk about supremacist and genocidal thinking within Jewish ideology and religious teaching, nor to examine how far such thought influences events in the social and political sphere. And the fact that so much effort goes into attempting to prevent us from doing so should set off red warning lamps in the minds of any true defender of freedom of speech and academic enquiry.

Serious question: What is Zionism?

Posted by: PhilK | Apr 2 2019 14:10 utc | 165

156 John

I watched Maria the other day and laughed when right before the "riff raff" part she said "pardon my French".

Also, I'll bet she said something more salty than riff raff, else why the pardon my French.

Posted by: Bart Hansen | Apr 2 2019 14:16 utc | 166

Circe @163 sex "...Hillary had to stay true to the Iran deal..."

"Had to"? What kind of nonsense is that? International deals, agreements, treaties, and even the US Constitution are no sorts of impediments to America launching wars of aggression. If you can point out where Clinton promised Goldman-Sachs that she wouldn't jeopardize the Iran deal then you have a point, otherwise this is just empty nonsense.

Furthermore, point out where the Dems failed to support expanding military expenditures. Point out what "other priorities" the Dems and Clinton have demonstrated that they want those resources reallocated to.

Try to keep in mind that PNAC is what is promised to the elites and that Clinton had made quite clear that her public position diverged from her true position on the matter. As far as selling the establishment on her support of PNAC Clinton has Libya, Ukraine, and Syria as concrete examples of her commitment whereas Trump had, at best, some secret promises to some individuals in the establishment. Trump's publicly stated platform was centered on isolationism. Trump's public position on PNAC was diametrically opposed while Clinton's public position was open support.

If the issue is with publicly stated intentions, then Clinton is the PNAC winner. If the issue is with backroom secret promises, then Clinton is still the PNAC winner.

You are just making up nonsense here. It almost sounds like you are shilling for the Democrats in a backhanded manner, trying to suggest that they are actually averse to war and generosity to the MIC or something.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 2 2019 14:42 utc | 167

I'm sorry everyone who is proposing candidates for the 20/20 elections, but it all boils down to what we realized in 2000, and maybe 2020 is a close enough match to that date - at any rate it is a significant date for me, who am reaching an age where just living long enough to consider the election after that is looking a bit like a bridge too far, or perhaps a bridge in the fog of uncertainty at least.

So, I will take up the cause of the silent - if not majority, then approaching it - the ones who will not be voting. And not because I take the vote lightly, but rather because it is very important to me who am a naturalized citizen. I believe in the Constitution; I believe in the Bill of Rights; I believe in the Declaration of Independence. I believe the founding fathers, all of whom had frailties which beset all mankind, did try to set up a system of justice for all and in doing so meant those foundations to be continually strengthened, not perfect at the start, but continually improving down through the years up to and through the civil rights era and into the hearts of many other leaders worldwide.

But we saw then,in 2000, and have seen even more clearly as the years continued the downward trend, that our voting system was gravely compromised. I can no longer in good conscience submit my vote to that corrupted system, which elects only those who do the will of the corrupted elite. This is like what happened in the era of the Vietnam war - men and women of good conscience could not submit themselves to that illegal enterprise. They spoke out. So I am calling on all who cannot vote: speak out. Tell why you cannot do this.

The system is broken.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 2 2019 15:13 utc | 168

@147 mourning dove... i hear what you are saying, but in the contxt of him running for the dems 2020, it,s relevanr..

Posted by: james | Apr 2 2019 15:24 utc | 169

on an ipad and turned off spell check.. how to look like an idiot... i love it!

Posted by: james | Apr 2 2019 15:25 utc | 170

I didn't finish the article, and although the writer makes reference to Israel Shakak's work he has taken from it a very different impression than what I got. To be fair, I read Jewish History, Jewish Religion after I read another of his books, Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel, and my understanding of his work is informed by both books.
I don't think it's fair to say that there is something intrinsic to Judaism that is inherently discriminatory and supremacist. Such ideology represents an extremist interpretation of the Talmud. Yes, there are some things to be found in the Talmud which are very troubling, but the same can be said of most religious texts which are based on interpretation.
Zionism is a political ideology. To say that it is something that naturally results from Jewish religion is incorrect. In the early part of the 1900's when Zionists first arrived in Palestine, the existing religious Jewish communities were strongly opposed to the Zionist project, on religious grounds. In so many ways, Zionism is a stark departure from Jewish religious ideology, although for the past century or so in particular, Zionism has had a strong influence upon Judaism. Zionism has also influenced Christianity and has fed some extremist interpretations of Christianity.
I think it's correct to assert the distinction between Zionism and Judaism. Zionism is the problem.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 15:40 utc | 171

Circe @163: Hillary had to stay true to the Iran deal

Great point Circe!

Hillary committed herself to Obama's legacy. That included the Iran deal.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 2 2019 15:48 utc | 172

juliania @167
I didn't make the decision lightly either. We may have different opinions about some things, but we've essentially reached the same conclusion for the same reasons. I don't find pleasure or satisfaction in my decision to boycott, or in yours, but I am being true to my conscience. I know that you are too.
I raise my fist in solidarity.
Hang in there.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 15:57 utc | 173

juliania @167

Yes, democracy is gravely compromised, but the elites' control over the system is far from perfect. They screw up all the time. The establishment's control over society is tenuous at best. They are scrambling constantly to keep their narratives patched and keep the reins from slipping out of their hands. They patch their narratives by the hour these days but still cannot keep up with the flow of information through the Internet and keep the entire population corralled in their narrative bubbles. The establishment also vastly overestimates their own intelligence and abilities and underestimates the wisdom of the masses. This overconfidence crossed with incompetence among the establishment leaves room for us to wreck their plans. In fact that is the whole point of my little disagreement with Jackrabbit and his posse.

Consider Mexico. In 2006 the US establishment enforced the victory of their chosen imperial governor, Felipe Calderón, using a variety of techniques such as big budget mass marketing and finally by altering vote counts in paperless electronic voting machines. They did the exact same thing again in 2018, except this time the US establishment's choice lost despite all of the rigging that was done to the election. AMLO's margin of victory was just too big for the empire to be able to get away with making it look like he lost. The empire has the same problem in Venezuela where no pro-US candidate has enough domestic support to possibly beat Maduro. Finally, Trump's victory in 2016 was the electorate's big "EF you!" to the establishment. If the establishment had set up a bag of dog poop as Clinton's opponent in 2016 to help guarantee her victory, then the bag of dog poop would have won, not because people wanted a bag of dog poop for President, but because the electorate was rebelling against the establishment.

Of course, the establishment cannot accept the possibility that the mindless masses outwitted them (recall the incompetent arrogance that I mentioned above) so they imagined some shadowy enemy (Russians, of course) spoiling their scheme. That just goes to show you how stupid the establishment really is. This stupidity that is crippling the establishment gives us "deplorables" opportunities to beat them.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 2 2019 16:09 utc | 174

The Democrats are eating their own candidates. They're taking down Beto, Biden, and even Mayor Petey. [Circe]

Superficially, it does not seem to be a balanced diet, but it takes a careful examination of the health conditions to figure out if read meats may hurt you or help you. "Electability of moderates" was tested on HRC, and it is not as certain as in the past. There was a time when "Third Way" was a clever idea, a gimnick but one that worked. This time is in the past. I would also caution that if you want to eat Beto, Biden and Pete raw then it is important to kill the potential harmful bacteria in a sufficiently acidic marinate. Aged specimens like Biden should probably be marinated for many days even if you want to cook, broil etc.

In the meantime, grumpy attitudes among potential Democratic primary voters give some effects. Most of the candidates eschewed pilgrimage to the AIPAC convention. But what should a moderate do, isn't it a radical behavior? Now I cannot find a link, but a few candidates like Klobuchar promised to talk with AIPAC officials in private. Hm.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 2 2019 16:13 utc | 175

Rearguard action by the Brits. Absolutely no mention in mainstream media.

Posted by: kula | Apr 2 2019 16:14 utc | 176

You kinda made my point by saying that in the context of Bernie running for the Dems that it's relevant. That context is the "frame". In the context of a critical article extolling the virtues of socialism, it's dishonest. Even a very superficial comparison of Bernie Sanders and his "political hero", Eugene Debs, leaves Bernie Sanders looking like a sellout. Eugene Debs ran for president from prison after being charged under the Espionage Act for opposing WWI. Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, is selling a so-called socialist platform that isn't remotely possible without reigning in the military budget which is a subject that Bernie won't touch. With regard to Venezuela, it's telling that he parroted the Empire with the qualification of "nevertheless" blah blah blah. A critical writer would surely at least acknowledge the things, a DNC shill would gloss over these things and frame Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren as saviours.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 16:27 utc | 177

Several posters pondered the relationship between Judaism and Zionism.

I have some superficial knowledge on that. For sure, Zionism was conceived as a non-religious project to remake Jews to be a "nation like any other" with the unity of blood, language and land (optionally, religion). That was 19-th century European standard of patriotism/nationalism. In prior centuries, nations were monarchies and allegiance more personal, people of the same ethnic or religious background could be loyal subjects of various monarchs, some of which were religiously tolerant and some were not.

As a non-religious project, Zionism was opposed by religious Jewish leaders. However, Judaism evolved significantly after the creation of Israel. Numerically largest sects are American Reform and Conservative, and in Israel, Modern Orthodox, all of them Zionist with different degrees of zeal. As it is always the case, reformers present reforms as returning to the correct past, or simply deny that things were ever different, and to be sure, the concept of Zion is quite central in Jewish Bible. What I can be sure is that Zionists were a minority among Jews in the period between the world wars.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 2 2019 16:30 utc | 178

pete has david brooks in his corner.blech indeed.

Posted by: dahoit | Apr 2 2019 16:31 utc | 179

Gruff @162

Firstly, it's worthwhile to note that Gruff doesn't attempt to defend his assertion that Trump is an isolationist.

Here Jackrabbit is clearly talking about Trump's campaign platform and not Trump's secret agenda.

Gruff attempts to obfuscate the obvious connection between Kissinger's call for MAGA and Trump as the MAGA candidate. The fact is, if you're going to move the country in a certain direction, you've got make that agenda public.

The "secret agenda" is that YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. The Deep State is taking us in that direction whether you like it or not.

Kissinger playing kingmaker

I never said that Kissinger is a "kingmaker". In fact I noted that two of the most powerful political leaders in the US were know to have great respect for Kissinger.

The Deep State works via a consensus among the top echelons of the political , military, and intelligence elite. The "grave crisis" (Kissinger's words) caused by the challenges posed by the Russia-China Alliance is likely to have prompted prompted a quick consensus.

Gruff's "kingmaker" strawman is a transparent attempt to discredit and misdirect.

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I made a few simple points @91 that together sum up how the 2016 election was fixed for a Trump win. The logic is clear. And, while I readily admit that there is not direct proof, IMO the circumstantial evidence is compelling.

That a knowledgeable person tries to discredit this viewpoint via nonsense, rhetorical tricks, and intimidation tactics only bolsters my belief that is the truth.

With that said, I hope that the interaction with Gruff has helped some readers to better understand the issues raised.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 2 2019 16:40 utc | 180

William Gruff @173
I actually agree with you as far as HRC goes, and the 2016 election, but Trump's win didn't wreck their plans. Yeah, it was a big FU to the establishment, but the Empire continues to advance it's agenda. When the only choice is between servants of the Empire, an election will never wreck their plans. It just keeps people engaged with a system of domination, exploitation, oppression, death, destruction, and misery. Engaging with that system via any of the outlets it has provided is a trap.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 16:40 utc | 181

Gruff @173:

... the elites' control over the system is far from perfect. They screw up all the time. The establishment's control over society is tenuous at best.... Trump's victory in 2016 was the electorate's big "EF you!" to the establishment. If the establishment had set up a bag of dog poop as Clinton's opponent in 2016 to help guarantee her victory, then the bag of dog poop would have won, not because people wanted a bag of dog poop for President, but because the electorate was rebelling against the establishment.

Dog poop? Clinton won a majority of votes.

Making light of the system of elite control fails when you consider that those elites seem to get what they want in the end AND are never held accountable. What better evidence than the fact that voters that were "rebelling against the establishment" by voting for Trump only got more-of-the-same.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 2 2019 16:54 utc | 182

Piotr Berman @177
Not to split hairs or anything, but I think it's more accurate to say that the Zionist aim was to create a nation unlike any other.

Jackrabbit @181
You might be interested in looking in to the numerous instances in the 2016 election of fraud, ballot stuffing, and other manoeuvres by the Dems in that election. I don't believe for a second that she actually won the popular vote.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 17:05 utc | 183

Piotr Berman @177
Not to split hairs or anything, but I think it's more accurate to say that the Zionist aim was to create a nation unlike any other.

I meant that the ideology was not original but combining nationalistic ideology (transposed to Jews) that were in wide circulation. What is common to nationalism s is the idea that the "my nation" should do as much for its welfare as it can get away with, given inevitable conflicts with other nations. Of course, in practice the scope of what they can away with differs from case to case.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 2 2019 17:21 utc | 184

mouring dove

OK, but my point still stands. "Dog poop" was an exaggeration made to reinforce Gruff's point that the establishment makes mistakes. (I'm not saying they don't make mistakes but they don't have to get everything right to maintain control.)

The fact is, the duopoly divides us and encourages "lesser evil" voting so that even Hillary or "dog poop" will get a substantial number of votes. That doesn't mean the electorate is stoopid enough to actually elect "dog poop".

But the electorate simply don't understand how they are played. Swinging the vote to one candidate or the other once you've divided the electorate into halves is not too difficult for an establishment that controls the media and campaign funding.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 2 2019 17:24 utc | 185

WG @114; Your use of Ad hominems declares who and what you are. Thanks for the heads up..

ff@ 117; Good post.

Circe @ 140 said; "Trump is a fraud just like Obama was. They both yapped a good one during the campaign about Iraq being a mistake and then turned to the PNAC agenda right before the swearing in."

If you pay attention to WHAT politicians DO, instead of what they SAY, your statement is an absolute truth.

Posted by: ben | Apr 2 2019 17:37 utc | 186

mourning dove @101--

The Joshua Landis paper I suggested before I closely examined it was published in 2007 and is weighted/biased by Presentism, which is a fallacy of interpreting events in the past through a lens in the present. I don't know what prompted Ehsani to make the thread he did from it as its line/POV differs from what I've read from him over the past 3 years. Other commenters in the thread also seem taken aback. Angry Arab gives Landis mixed reviews and has a poor opinion regarding the Institute he's part of. I hope to have some time later today to delve deeper.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 2 2019 18:27 utc | 187

@178 mourning dove.. as a canuck, i am not following it, 1-hundredth the degree you are.. what little i understand about sanders doesn't impress me either, but that is the view from the outside...

Posted by: james | Apr 2 2019 18:58 utc | 188

I agree with what you are saying but I think that the deeper issue is that the PTB (or PTBs in the Buffy tradition) are only ever going to offer a choice of elephant poop or donkey poop. Dividing the electorate is definitely part of the con, but controlling both sides of the board in an Orwellian fashion, encouraging participation in the scam is the primary goal. However the false choice shakes out, control is maintained over the voting public, and the Empire advances.
Regarding Iran and the nuclear deal, I think it's reasonable to assume that HRC would have withdrawn from it as well provided that there were sufficient political cover for doing so. Like the rest of them, she'll do whatever she thinks she can get away with.

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 19:06 utc | 189

I didn't recognize the name, but I've heard of the Angry Arab. I'm not on twitter so I don't follow any of it. That is surprising, has he made a response to the criticism?

Posted by: mourning dove | Apr 2 2019 19:08 utc | 190

mourning dove

It's almost a truism that both candidates would do the bidding of the Deep State so if Trump withdrew, Hillary would've found a way also. But the fact is, Hillary did NOTHING that anticipated the possibility of withdrawing. Her commitment to Obama's legacy was total. And as such, Hillary and Trump disagreed on virtually everything.

Hillary would also have had trouble in other areas. For example, she would have difficulty pretending to be a nationalist and stoking patriotic fervor. She is known for being an establishment insider as well as her globalist orientation (think Clinton Foundation). I sum up the awkwardness of Hillary as a nationalist by noting that: her pantsuit wouldn't inspire the troops (which you commented on previously).

The fact is, rising to the challenge posed by Russia and China requires a determination that is backed by a military force that is ready and willing to fight. Trump may not be the most inspirational President ever, but he is certainly a better choice than Hillary.

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It's also worthwhile to note that Trump has 'turned the page' on the Obama years, just as Obama had 'turned the page' on the Bush years. IMO this is part of the democracy works! psyop. While we are led to believe that everything is different, the Deep State remains a fixture of our governing elite.

But it's more than that. Each Administration accumulates inconvenient baggage (abuses, inconsistencies, scandals) that needs to be wiped away for a new paradigm/psyop. Bush's lying us into war and rendition and torture frightened the world. It was replaced with Obama's friendly inclusiveness. Change You Can Beleive In! (only NOT). Then Obama's duplicitous charm was replaced with 'straight-shooter' Trump who beguiles us with BS like: "I'd leave the Middle East, but if I stayed, I'd take the oil!

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 2 2019 19:52 utc | 191

Then Obama's duplicitous charm was replaced with 'straight-shooter' Trump who beguiles us with BS like: "I'd leave the Middle East, but if I stayed, I'd take the oil! Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 2, 2019 3:52:09 PM | 192

Then Trump stays in ME and tries to take the oil in Venezuela instead. On the balance, Trump wrecks more havoc in the world, especially with the sanction mania increasingly getting out of hand, while Obama had a more sustainable version of the same, so hard to compare the implications in the long run. So far, Trump proved that USA can be more boorish than ever and get away with it. Unless we get Sanders or Tulsi as the next president, this experience will permanently alter American behavior for worse.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Apr 2 2019 20:12 utc | 192

Piotr Berman @176...dunno about Klobuchar offhand, but Kamala Harris is all over the news for meeting with AIPAC reps in her office after skipping the conference -- the first results I get from DuckDuckGo are from Breitbart, the Hill, SFGate, Ha'aretz, and the Intercept.

What I'd like to know is when some politician has gone or will go to the big conference and speak truth to that power....

Posted by: John Anthony La Pietra | Apr 2 2019 20:15 utc | 193

This at least purports to be a detailed report on who did what, so it might be useful.

OTOH, it's from the Washington Post. OTTH, it's placed in the context of Pinocchio-rating Pence's declaration at the conference about how all the Ds were "boycotting" the event, so YMMV on how reliable this source might be on this issue.

Posted by: John Anthony La Pietra | Apr 2 2019 20:47 utc | 194

Insurance on WTC7

here the mass-murdering psychopath admits that he had plans drawn up for the new building Seven in 2000, a year before the convenient (and extremely profitable) destruction of the buildings.

Silverstein breezes over the demolitions of 9/11/2001 as if they were not even worth remarking on, instead going straight from his new-WTC-7 design meeting in April 2000 to the beginning of construction in 2002.

anonymous asks: how can you connect his plans for its [WTC7] redevelopment to anything sinister?

Rurik responds: "where were his plans for the dismantling of the existing building if he had plans for a new building drawn up?

You can’t plop a new building there unless you first remove the existing one, and doing so would require plans, and permits from the Port Authority, and inspections and endless hand-wringing over the process of a controlled demolition vs. a systematic dismantling.

And then a controlled demolition would have to have plans and contractors all lined up, and expensive evacuation protocols, all requiring city funds, and I would think massive expense to make sure the process was safe.

Versus coming up with a ‘clever’ idea with your good buddy Bibi, (with whom you were known to speak on a weekly basis), and a cabal of NYC Zionist psychopaths.

In all probability, the decision to buy the lease to the WTC complex was only made once the ‘clever’ plan for the "attack" [edit out] had been codified.

Dov explained that from his position as Comptroller of the Pentagon, (where Rumsfeld had said trillions were missing from, on 9/10/2001) and with his expertise at remote controlled systems for jets, pulling it all off was going to be a cakewalk. And if anything went wrong, they already knew from their experience with the USS Liberty, that virtually anything they did, no matter how treacherous or pathological, would always be covered up with an owned and complicit media, and with owned and complicit goyim politicians. (Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Giuliani, etcetera ad nauseam)

So as he stands there, discussing his plans for a new building Seven were finalized a year before the existing building serendipitously plopped into its basement at free-fall speed, we are privy to the thought-processes of a clinical psychopath.

Utterly indifferent to the massive loss of (goyim) life his schemes would entail. Which was also going to be used to turn the 21st century into a blood-fest of slaughter for Greater Israel. Such a deal!

You want to know what’s really sad?

Is that I suspect these guys all realized that if the goyim ever really do figure it all out, that they’re not really going to do anything about it anyways. Just like with the Liberty, their bovine apathy (or greed, depending on from which perch the goyim occupy) will win the day, and all will simply trend on as if nothing happened. Because the goyim minds and their spirits and their will- all have been so systematically handicapped by generations of Jewish supremacist media programming, that the beast-like creatures they speak of in the Protocols, are what we’ve actually become.


(comments found on Unz Review by Rurik, responding to the article: "Alan “Israel Did 9/11” Sabrosky: Most Censored Man in America", comments #268 and #297, slightly edited for this blog)

Posted by: anon | Apr 2 2019 22:14 utc | 195

Mourning Dove @191--

As'ad AbuKhalil is the Angry Arab and a PolySci Professor at California State University, Stanislaus. Amongst his writings is The Battle for Saudi Arabia which I highly suggest. His blog activity has migrated to his Twitter, much of which is conducted in Arabic. His views on Landis are from his blog archive. Apparently, they've debated in the past as such are mentioned in the blog archives. His sense of humor takes some getting used to as it's rather original. He was born in Lebanon.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 2 2019 23:16 utc | 196

Just discovered RoK President Moon will have Summit with Trump April 10-11 in Washington. We shall see if anything positive emerges or if it gets trashed by Bolton.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 2 2019 23:44 utc | 197

@45 uncle tungsten

In case you miss it, I posted a response to your comment with more information on Ten Mile Inn. It got held in the queue overnight, but it appears here now at @149.

Posted by: Grieved | Apr 3 2019 0:17 utc | 198

My intuition paid off again. Mayor Pete is indeed an empty suit without a jacket, and worse, he's ignorant as hell for a Rhodes Scholar and he's establishment and worst of all...he's a Zionist sympathizer. Dump him.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 3 2019 1:49 utc | 199

Oh geez, here's the link proving it.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 3 2019 1:50 utc | 200

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