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March 31, 2019

The MoA Week In Review - OT 2019-18

Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:

More morsels on the case:

El Pais: North Korean embassy assailants filmed the attack to prove their actions, say Spanish police

The 10 individuals who broke into the North Korean embassy in Madrid last month, assaulting staff members and taking audiovisual material with them, had micro-cameras that they used to provide evidence of their actions to whoever ordered and financed the operation, according to Spanish investigators.
The 35-year-old is a US resident with a Mexican passport who “owns several dubious companies and is in contact with various intelligence services.

Investigators are now exploring whether Hong Chang played a role “in other violent incidents against North Korean interests in other countries.” Near the Madrid embassy, the police found an Italian driver’s license belonging to Hong Chang but showing a fake name. The North Korean ambassador to Italy has been missing since January, and is presumed to have defected.
Investigation sources say the attack was perfectly planned down to every last detail, something that would require “significant infrastructure and financing, which the individuals involved lack.”
Even though the assailants – mostly young South Koreans living in the US and trained in military action – took away the hard drives of the embassy’s security cameras, the police was able to partially recover the footage before its automatic deletion. This is what allowed investigators to observe the intruders’ “extremely violent and professional” behavior, and to identify them.

The CIA cover group has gone silent. It may be that Adrian Hong gets another gig. Not again Libya from where he transferred Islamist to the Syrian war theater, but how about Venezuela?

Free Joseon says it is going on a hiatus

Most notably, according to AFP, Hong was spotted in Tripoli, Libya, during the Libyan civil war in 2011. He helped Libyan war victims receive treatment at hospitals in Jordan.

Mystery group tied to break-in at DPRK embassy in Madrid will suspend activities

Notably, the source said that South Korea’s embassy in Madrid also had some knowledge of the incident shortly before it took place and immediately after.

Presumably to prevent that the case gets buried, North Korea finally acknowledges the raid:

North Korea said Sunday it wants an investigation into a raid on its embassy in Spain last month, calling it a “grave terrorist attack” and an act of extortion that violates international law.
The North’s official media quoted a Foreign Ministry spokesman as saying that an illegal intrusion into and occupation of a diplomatic mission and an act of extortion are a grave breach of the state sovereignty and a flagrant violation of international law, “and this kind of act should never be tolerated.”

He claimed an armed group tortured the staff and suggested they stole communications gear.

Yves Smith: Boeing Doubles Down on 737 Max, Rejects Need for Simulator Training

Southwest Airlines contract with Boeing says that Southwest will get $1 million rebate per plane if 737 MAX pilots need extra simulator training for it.

Matt Taibbi: On Russiagate and Our Refusal to Face Why Trump Won

A long read about Pete Buttigieg, a Democratic candidate for the next presidential election.

    All About Pete

The rage with which the piece was written is beautiful.

You will be sold Buttigieg’s small-town milliennial neoliberalism the way they’re trying to sell you Beto O’Rourke’s skateboard neoliberalism. Hey kids, you like Medicare For All? So does this guy! But he’s young and from the Midwest and likes Hamilton! Bernie is old. You don’t need an old man. You need young hip progressivism.

Do not be deceived by this.

Use as open thread ...

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You're finally right about something; Americans did vote for a bag of poop.

Posted by: Circe | Apr 3 2019 2:43 utc | 201

@ Circe #201

I read that piece a few minutes ago. It really did make me want to upchuck. Since the man is so closely aligned with the neocons, no doubt he would excuse "a little" torture if done in a good cause by Exceptional Americans.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 3 2019 3:07 utc | 202

Boeing is dead

I just saw a headline that said the autopilot, after being turned off, re-engaged 4 times

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 3 2019 14:24 utc | 203

737 Max update:

ET302 used the Cut-Out switches to stop MCAS (by Bjorn Fehrm)

check also this video: Pilots did right and it went MAX wrong - MCAS (by MentourPilot)

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Apr 3 2019 15:58 utc | 204

For those following the linked video. It should be stressed they are using a 737 NG simulator, not a MAX, they have run the simulator into a flight condition close, as in speed and trim close, to those experienced by the accident flights. They are testing what they encounter, when following the so called memory items to be used on a runaway trim scenario, the procedure which has as been advised to pilots running into MCAS issues.

I have to wonder if there is any chance, if this scenario had been run by FAA inspectors, MCAS as it exists would ever had been certified.

That is truly a dramatic clip.

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Apr 3 2019 16:37 utc | 205

@ Vasco da Gama #206

All I have to go on are the opinions of other people, but some "seem" more reasonable than others to me. One author suggests Boeing's "solution" will be to neuter the MCAS system to the point it will do virtually nothing. Presumably this would give them a bit of cover in the upcoming lawsuits (it really was needed!) as well as satisfying world regulators and airlines and pilots.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Apr 3 2019 17:56 utc | 206


It was the Syria withdrawal nonsense the finally convinced me that your theory of Trump and the 2016 election had a hell of a lot of merit. But, the only thing that gave me some pause for thought was - what a waste of time the whole thing is, what is the point of it (i.e. that couldn't be achieved more easily).

Today another piece of the puzzle fell into place for me. I was listening to Lee Stranahan on the George Galloway Show and he made the point that the whole "Trump" thing was not about Trump; it was about Russia and re-introducing the Cold War and this operation was in place before Trump. I think that this motive for the "Trump" operation is entirely plausible and has also been entirely successful. It also explains the extremely quick jettisoning of Flynn (whose presence would have compromised the operation). The interview (with a bit of preamble starts around 1:33:40 and lasts about 12 mins):

Geor Galloway Show 29th Mar 2019

As an aside the pressure that Trump was (supposedly) under would have broken a lesser man (see the effect of Watergate on Nixon) especially one with barely any support within his own administration; and that (of course) is just ridiculous, because that is exactly what Trump is - a lesser man.

I also see that Tulsi Gabbard hasn't yet made the individual donations requirement to be on the Democratic primary platform - it would seem to me that if the "deplorables" existed as a revolutionary movement, if there was real desire to drain the swamp, then she should have been a shoo-in for all Americans - so (imo) not only is Trump fake but, regretfully, so is the "revolution".

Posted by: ADKC | Apr 3 2019 17:58 utc | 207

The thing Zachary, is that the announced patch appears to "neuter" MCAS to great measure, but then the question is raised, will MCAS proposed final state fulfil its original mission, ie. counter MAX's degraded aerodynamic behaviour?

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Apr 3 2019 18:24 utc | 208

@ anon #196

“…Sabrosky’s right about 9/11 as a Zionist plot, and proven so by any number of data points…”

Some solid clues became known only much later, such as the forensic evidence of micro-thermite in dust samples, or seismographic readings correlating with multiple explosions. However, there were already very blatant anomalies as the event was still unfolding, from which critical observers could derive obvious conclusions, for instance:

• Ehud Barak just ever-so-coincidentally happened to appear at BBC headquarters in London to provide the anchor and framework regarding how this should be interpreted and what needed to be done.

• George W. Bush continued to remain in the classroom after notification of the plane hitting the second tower, yet no immediate evacuation since Secret Service already knew he was not in danger.

• The phrase “New Pearl Harbor” was used repeatedly by narrators, invoking imagery in the three-hour film Pearl Harbor that had been shown in movie theaters that summer to “prime” for the event.

In other words, the smart people could already figure out at the outset who was behind this operation. The accumulated evidence that became known in subsequent days merely reinforced that initial understanding. This event serves as an important litmus test, that separates sophisticated observers from the masses of gullible and intimidated conformists.

Posted by: Been_there_done_that | Apr 3 2019 23:50 utc | 209

Michael Hudson has posted two new items to his site, here and here. They are the first 2 installments of a 4 part series.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 4 2019 0:05 utc | 210

ADKC @208

Lee Stranahan suggests that Trump was set up and then says @1:43 "they didn't want Trump to win ... once he won they got rid of anything good about his foreign policy".

This is more faux populist hero crap: His intentions are noble! His heart's in the right place! Yuck. We saw the same from Obamabots when Obama was in President.

My supposition is very different (as expressed in my comment @91): Trump was picked to win well before the election and was likely part of the 'set up' that stoked anti-Russia fervor.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 4 2019 2:21 utc | 211

@ karlof1 and others with the Michael Hudson links

The 2nd one karlof1 provided is a repeat of the is the 2nd

Read these and pass them on. They are good.

Hey smuks! You should read these also because you keep spouting nonsense like central banking is not private Are you going to tell us Michael Hudson's research and conclusions are wrong?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 4 2019 2:55 utc | 212

Zachary Smith first of all: no one at CIA-owned Washington Post could have written anything close to what I did because they're imbeciles and you know it. Now if you said NSA I would at one time have felt pretty happy about such a comparison (but my maths are dumb) but the CIA? Go spin on a turnip :D Cloak and dagger sucks, lies are how we have so many problems in the first place (and I don't know how or what explains Bezos ending up like a pimp, or should that be whore?).

And then you think I'm a HRC-bot? Excellently trolled, you're really hitting me where it hurts since I don't like her and now I'm "offended" lol, well I would be except read on :) (and if you're serious: no I'm not).

Putting the fun aside I guess I wasn't meant to read your post, only caught it now by chance while skimming the comments and that's only because I'm finally doing laundry in the "communal" cellar the block shares (it's such a pain), which is only because the download is taking 10 hours (4 left unless it fails), which is only because I've been rate limited for not paying on time. I've been awake almost precisely 24 hours now and I'm still hours away from sleep and while this is unusual my days are almost always bad so no I don't read every single comment in every single thread.

Anyway I didn't see anyone replying to your comment and I think I might know why.

On language:
I wanted to do everyone a favor by deliberately not linking the topic (climate) and the flaw because that of course would be fallacious. They are separate things. When you then are the one who insists on linking them you don't get to complain over making that link.

On Gaza:
To me it seems like both you and Circe didn't get what I was trying to say which is fair enough: shame or force both of them into using their weapons on empty soil instead of targeting humans. Disagree all you want if you actually do.

On no replies:
I don't think everyone agrees with any of the posts I write but it could be that a lot of people more or less at least saw what I was trying to say and it hopefully wasn't what you thought it was. Or maybe that's just me flattering myself. Then they might wonder slightly at you writing to someone without mentioning who and then complaining about that someone. Sure it's soon clear it's me you're talking about but you've got to admit that's an odd way of doing it. The mudslinging probably didn't impress either and again runs counter to the actual content of my posts despite whatever you might think.

In general:

A. Thank you for the additional attention, I'm glad someone reads what I write despite it perhaps being rubbish. Someone might come along and accuse me of being you next because some people do that sort of thing (please don't, not even as a joke).

B. If you wanted to tear into me you should have picked my stupid "addendum" that came in the second (at least at the time) post afterwards. I have no defense for that little bit of idiocy, it was meant to be funny and self-deprecating but it's just dumb. I apologize for that one.

C. Seeing how we're having some communications issues on these posts shouldn't you and me both be happy we're not talking about the weather or climate or both? (Spoiler: it's not truly a binary topic thus "everyone" is wrong).

D. It's okay to disagree and I hope that doesn't sound patronizing, I don't mind disagreement (I do mind errors, mine and others). I disagree with my own thoughts as much as possible but I'm sure I could do better if I had more time and energy. I'm not always right and communicating is difficult.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Apr 4 2019 7:08 utc | 213


Yes, I do appreciate your supposition is different and I am not suggesting that Lee Stranahan isn't too sympathetic to Trump. However, the key point he makes (that it was always about Russia, not Trump) is what I would have thought would have been of interest. The whole anti-Russia narrative was in play before Trump but could only have been brought to this current level of hysteria with something like a Trump operation.

It seems to me that bringing the US and Russia eyeball to eyeball has been the point of the exercise and was not a regrettable byproduct of the Trump plan. Look at how the US (politically, militarily and the whole of it's people) have been manoeuvred from 9-11, through the anti-Bush, anti-war feelings right back to a war posture; to a President who has taken a hostile posture towards Russia, who will likely get re-elected or only defeated by a candidate who is more extreme in their anti-Russia posturing.

The issue isn't that Trump was picked, but why was he picked.

Posted by: ADKC | Apr 4 2019 7:56 utc | 214



Posted by: Jackrabbit | Apr 4 2019 14:15 utc | 215

"The CIA Takeover of America in the 1960s Is the Story of Our Times"

Edward Curtin reviews A Lie Too Big To Fail: The Real History of the Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy by Lisa Pease. IMO, Pease is 100% correct. IMO, Russia and China are "existential threats" not because of their militaries but because they are the only two nations capable of supplying independent and thus differing narratives with the potential to upend the longstanding controlling narrative of the Outlaw US Empire, the cultivation of which is ongoing since the idea of an equitable alternative to Capitalism was developed in the late 1800s and fought for in Europe. IMO, Hudson's works are uncovering the root nature of the forces afflicting the vast majority of humanity and where the source of their power lies. Those forces are waging a major battle today in the UK to the point of using the "bullet to the head message" sent to Corbyn and promise of overt military revolt should his socialist party gain control of UK government. Corbyn, however, is fearless and won't back down. Thus the importance of Brexit which is being dismissed by BigLie Media since that's where the actual battle lines are drawn.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 4 2019 15:13 utc | 216

irrussionality has a good article up for canucks..

it is about lloyd axworthys overseeing ukee elections.. he says a lot of really stupid one sided things...typical canuck stupidity on display...

Posted by: james | Apr 4 2019 16:02 utc | 217

@ anon #196

Just adding:

Mossad film crew on the Jersey side of the Hudson, and set up there c. 20″ before AM11 hit the North Tower. Then arrested, released back to Israhell, where they admitted having been “sent to NY to record the event”

*Reuters, a Rothschild operation, reporting WTC-7 down 15-20 minutes before it collapsed.

*Lucky Larry Silverstein, owner of the WTC, who was always there for breakfast every morning with his daughter, but on the morning of 9/11, "Lucky Larry" just happened to remember a dermatologist's appointment, and his daughter also had some lame excuse for missing out on the mass murder of everyone who worked so hard to prepare breakfast for them every morning

Larry’s "luck" held out when he demanded double indemnity – on the basis that he had been “victimized” by two completely separate and unrelated terrorist attacks, namely the two planes – and got it, to the tune of 4. 5 billion dollars. That’s a hefty cash-payout return on a relatively minor investment. (Silverstein put up less than 15 million of his own money to buy the WTC,

(Such charming people, the Silversteins)

*Zionist neo-con PNAC document, one year beforehand: “what we need is a new Pearl Harbor”


Posted by: Been_there_done_that | Apr 4 2019 17:19 utc | 218

IMO, the same tactic's used most everywhere:

"This is how the State Propaganda Machine undermines democracy in the UK! It broadcasts smears!"

See link for answer to what/who.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 4 2019 19:15 utc | 219

For those of you who keep wondering what happened to debsisdead, and where is he

well, here he is, relaxing at home with the Sunday newspaper

Posted by: jkral | Apr 4 2019 20:10 utc | 220

I won't provide a link but the Liberace grifter in chief has just laid out his latest scam with China and Russia.

The short version is that he is proposing a big cutback in all three country's military spending.....the devil is in the details.

Stand back and think about it. Evidently China and Russia, in spite of spending less money, have better military than the For Profit empire. So the trick is to slow down China and Russia so that empire can try to catch up.

The Art of the Deal maker is not just sad and a loser, he is the pathetic face of the culture of the Western world brought to you by global private finance. May it soon die of its own internal contradictions and be replaced with global public finance tools so the majority of society can try to recover from the private finance cancer.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 4 2019 22:21 utc | 221

psychohistorian @222--

You'll find elsewhere here a link I provided to a Southfront translation of a Russian article about its 6th generation warplanes, which will be hypersonic. If corruption could fly, the Outlaw US Empire would be light years ahead of any competition. Instead, as Pompeo noted, corruption acts like an anchor on all facets of an economy--and society he failed to mention. The Neocons love to bash other nations for their reliance on things Russian, but refuse to provide the monies to build their own heavy rocket engines and instead rely on Russian engineering expertise.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 4 2019 22:50 utc | 222

Aircraft Accident Investigation Preliminary Report - Ethiopian Airlines Group - B737-8 (MAX) Registered ET-AVJ (Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau)

Executive summary

On March 10, 2019, at 05:38UTC, Ethiopian Airlines flight 302, Boeing 737-8(MAX), ET-AVJ, took off from Addis Ababa Bole Int. Airport bound to Nairobi, Kenya Jomo Kenyatta Int. Airport. Shortly after takeoff, the Angle of Attack sensor recorded value became erroneous and the left stick shaker activated and remained active until near the end of the flight. In addition, the airspeed and altitude values from the left air data system began deviating from the corresponding right side values.Due to flight control problems, the Captain was unable to maintain the flight path and requested to return back to the departure airport.The crew lost control of the aircraft which crashed at 5:44 UTC28 NM South East of Addis Ababa near Ejere village. (...)

On the basis of the initial information gathered during the course of the investigation, the following facts have been determined:

> The Aircraft possessed a valid certificate of airworthiness;
> The crew obtained the license and qualifications to conduct the flight;
> The takeoff roll appeared normal, including normal values of left and right angle-of-attack (AOA).
> Shortly after liftoff, the value of the left angle of attack sensor deviated from the right one and reached 74.5 degrees while the right angle of attack sensor value was 15.3 degrees;then after;the stick shaker activated and remained active until near the end of the flight.
> After autopilot engagement, there were small amplitude roll oscillations accompanied by lateral acceleration, rudder oscillations and slight heading changes; these oscillations also continued after the autopilot disengaged.
> After the autopilot disengaged, the DFDR recorded an automatic aircraft nose down (AND) trim command four times without pilot’s input. As a result, three motions of the stabilizer trim were recorded.The FDR data also indicated that the crew utilized the electric manual trim to counter the automatic AND input.
> The crew performed runaway stabilizer checklist and put the stab trim cutout switch to cutout position and confirmed that the manual trim operation was not working.

my emphasis

It is mostly relevant that it was established that the pilots indeed have followed the runaway stabilizer procedure advised by Boeing and reinforced in the Airworthiness Directive following one week after the Lion Air crash. The pilots still unable to correct the trim manually, were lead to improvise and ultimately found themselves with impossible odds to save the flight.

Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg addresses the Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 preliminary report

(...)The history of our industry shows most accident are caused by a chain of events. This again is the case here, and we know we can break one of those chain links in these two accidents.

Better Boeing work on "breaking" with not one but the plethora of chain links behind this state of affairs.

Posted by: Vasco da Gama | Apr 4 2019 22:52 utc | 223

Partisangirl has extensively added to her thread documenting Zionist alliance with Daesh and al-Qaeda terrorists in Golan, which now has 38 entries. It's extremely damning and is perhaps the best weapon to use against charges of Anti-Semitism, which was its initial purpose. And I bet she'll add to it as her passion on this is quite high.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 5 2019 17:59 utc | 224

Peter Lee
Everything you think you Know about the South China Sea is Wrong.

Uncle sham the arsonist at work,
Exhibit SCS

Everybody loathes wars, but the murkkans are terrified by the threat of peace, a peace accord must be sabotaged at all cost !

In 2014 China and the Philippines reached an agreement over the Scarborough Shoal, a collection of rocks and reefs east of Luzon in the South China Sea. The agreement was for shared use between the Philippines and China and was negotiated between China’s Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs, Fu Ying, and Philippines Senator Antonio Trillanes. Evidence strongly suggests the agreement was sabotaged by the United States, acting through its ally, Filipino Foreign Minister Albert del Rosario. (5)

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2019 18:18 utc | 225

Development vs. Destruction:
China and the U.S.
By Sara Flounders

How to spend $1 trillion

While China plans to spend $1 trillion in the coming years on its Belt and Road development program, the Pentagon’s plan is to spend more than $1 trillion on a whole new generation of nuclear-armed bombers, submarines, and land- and air-based missiles.

The United States has more than 4,000 nuclear warheads in its active stockpile, with 1,700 deployed and ready to be launched at a moment’s notice.

That is a danger to the whole planet.

U.S. imperialism can dump surplus agricultural products or equipment, or it can plunk down factories to take advantage of cheap labor if this is profitable for individual corporations. But the capitalist economy in the U.S. is not geared to developing economic competitors.

The United States today is the world’s largest capitalist economy, but its predatory practices around the world are suddenly being challenged in a wholly unexpected way. New programs coming from China are radically different from the alliances and aid programs coming from the U.S.

In a capitalist economy investment money will overwhelmingly go into producing what will earn the highest rate of profit. This is an inexorable pull. The entire system is based on maximizing profit, not on producing what is needed by society.

While it justifies interventions and sanctions with claims of counter terrorism or just being at odds with the West, the U.S. ruling class will find it harder to impose its will. Because there is now a clear alternative.

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2019 18:22 utc | 226

After threatening to close the border in one week, now Trump says that maybe he'll close the Border in one year

Or maybe not

First Trump comes out and declares he’s going to close the border next week. Then next week arrives. And so he says maybe he’ll do it.....

next year....maybe...or maybe never

Trump said at a meeting on Thursday:

“We’re gonna give them a one year warning, and if the drugs don’t stop or largely stop, we’re gonna put tariffs on Mexico and particular products and cars, the whole ballgame is cars … and if that doesn’t stop the drugs, we close the border.”

Now that... is some kind of a massive, gargantuan walk-back.

It’s almost like he's trying to set the world record for the biggest walk-back of all time

He comes out with this huge declaration of shutting down the border next week – and then says “oh actually, we’re going to wait a year, and then do some kind of tariff, then maybe we’ll shut down the border.”

And notice he's no longer even talking about illegal immigrants – he’s only talking about drugs!

Trump is doing the exact opposite of everything he says. The total exact opposite of everything

Why did he even say he was going to close the border? What is the point of that, if not to make himself look pathetic when he says “maybe next year?”

Could he be losing his mind, or suffering from Alzheimer's?

This degree of complete failure is becoming impossible even to comprehend.

His Presidency is becoming a total farce

Posted by: pedro | Apr 5 2019 18:37 utc | 227

Canthama reports:

"LNA has taken control of the the towns of Tarhuna and Aziziya near Tripoli, a very large Tarhuna brigade has shifted side toward LNA and has opened up a very large front toward Tripoli from all eastern and southern sides.

"LNA has also taken control of the Qasr Bin Ghashir, Wadi Al Rabie and Souq al-Khamis, south of Tripoli.

"Technically, Tripoli is now surrounded from all sides, and the knot became very tight, fight is in the suburbs, all main roads are controlled by LNA.

"UN visited Haftar in Benghazi today, it could be the last attempt from UN/NATO to get a relief for GNA, but many countries are already shifting support to LNA/Tobruk Government, this battle may end very quickly.

"Turkish/Qatar backed Muslin Brotherhood/al Qaeda in Misrata is becoming extremely nervous with the prospect of facing a large Libya army ready to eradicate them from Libya. Al Qaeda sent some commanders from Idlib to Libya yesterday to prepare for battle, the more the better, annihilation in Libya and Syria is a given. There can be no Muslin Brotherhood if Syria and Libya want to live in peace."

Looks like not even NATO airstrikes can help its terrorist proxies. A Ghaddafi will again rule Libya and make it even stronger than before. All that needs to happen for Libya's trauma to come full circle would be for Hillary Clinton to be subjected to the same torture and mode of death she so enjoyed being given Ghaddafi Sr.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 5 2019 20:59 utc | 228

@229 karlof1... thanks for these and many other updates!

Posted by: james | Apr 5 2019 21:05 utc | 229

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 5, 2019 4:59:39 PM | 229
(Haftar moves on Tripoli)

DW and F24 have reported briefly on this. I get the impression that the UN-backed (Christian Colonial) fake govt isn't going to put up much resistance to being expelled. Given that NATO's Libya R2P looting spree successfully transferred possession of most of Libya's cash and gold reserves into Christian Colonial talons, with very low loss of Christian Colonial lives, it wouldn't make much sense to put CC lives at risk to pursue a (hollow) Western military 'victory' with no prospect of further easy windfall profits - Oil excepted?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 6 2019 5:11 utc | 230


I really dunno how genius like pft, circe, caldre, russ... figure out China is 'far worse than fukus' ??

Posted by: denk | Apr 6 2019 7:34 utc | 231

Rueters "U.S. to designate elite Iranian force as terrorist organization"
"The United States is expected to designate Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards Corps a foreign terrorist organization, three U.S. officials told Reuters, marking the first time Washington has formally labeled another country’s military a terrorist group.
The decision, which critics warn could open U.S. military and intelligence officials to similar actions by unfriendly governments abroad, is expected to be announced by the U.S. State Department, perhaps as early as Monday, the officials said. It has been rumored for years."

The US so called war on terror, was a terror operation. Striking 'suspected locations' of 'suspected militants'. Hitting funerals and weddings. Hitting from the sky in unseen unmanned drones - the controllers safely sitting a a room playing a video game.
The video game players and all the way up the drone terrorist food chain need to be treated same as isis headchoppers.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 6 2019 7:47 utc | 232

Re: Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 6, 2019 1:11:27 AM | 231

An afterthought.
Whilst I was out in the car this afternoon, there was a 'news' report on the radio repeating some of the West's insultingly puerile drivel about Venezuela's "Guaido Government."

Given that Venezuela's Guaido Government, and Libya's UN-backed Government, are approximately equal in illegitimacy, from the pov of the voting public of each country, it's tempting to ponder the likelihood that the timing of Haftar's Tripoli campaign might have been inspired by the West's Venezuela delusions.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 6 2019 9:01 utc | 233


The empire or whatever its name be, is becoming more blatant. Perhaps it is like a set of scales. Blatant causes the empire's side to sink and the opposition side of the scales to rise. US recent exceptional status, touted by Obama, not touted but carried to a fuller extent by Trump, only contributes to weighing down the empires side of the scales and raising the opposition.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Apr 6 2019 9:24 utc | 234

I really dunno how genius like pft, circe, caldre, russ... figure out China is 'far worse than fukus' ??
Posted by: denk | Apr 6, 2019 3:34:34 AM | 232

Guilt and Denial, maybe?
It's becoming embarrassingly obvious that 95% of the world's evil, voracious, bloodthirsty, manipulative human scum reside, and call the shots in, the West. When Russia intervened in Syria, and China began resisting Western bullying, it began to look as though "we" might be saved from "our" home-grown predatory assholes by Russia and/or China. One day...

But, why would or should, the ppl we'd like to save us put their own improving existence at risk on our behalf when we are doing NOTHING to help ourselves? In fact it's worse than that. We're doing a First Class impersonation of wimpy little mice who ENJOY being pushed around and lied to. Until that changes we're probably not worth saving.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 6 2019 12:57 utc | 235

New open thread, please!

Posted by: Circe | Apr 6 2019 18:38 utc | 236

@ pedro #228

Trump addresses the nation, over the border crisis:

Fellow Americans, we have no choice but to warn may-hee-co to knock it off with the whole "decades of foreign invasion" act.

I know it's wild and perhaps inadvisable, but I'm giving Mexico one year to get their act together or I'll have no choice but to blow more hot air and do nothing. Consider yourself properly handled, Pablo. I'm sure the rush of criminals, looters and worthless scum from the Mud World will now cease, with the beautiful wall of meaningless semi-tough talk built firmly up in the clouds somewhere.

It's just too much winning, I can't take it any more. Now, there's a way to fix this Open Borders, mass immigration crisis, and here it is: House Bill 437, which is designed to make sure we get A LOT more Holocaust instruction in our Public Schools.

News article: "Middle and high school students would be required to learn about the Holocaust under House Bill 437, which received a favorable hearing Tuesday from the House Education Committee."

Under the new House bill 437, the study of the Holocaust, when millions of Jews were killed in Europe under Nazi rule would be integrated into ALL English, social studies courses and other courses."

Trump continues: "Under the bill, the study of my last fishing trip, when I nearly caught a fourteen foot monster, will be integrated into everything. Why stop at history, right? When we can have mathematics, where the answer is always six million and not a few thousand dead from Allied bombing and late war starvation.

How about Hall of Cost home economics where you can make arts and crafts? Or physical education you'll learn how to go without water by putting a pebble in your mouth and survive deadly cage matches against evil not-see eagle/bear tag teams."

House Bill 437 is also known as the “Gizella Abramson Holocaust Education Act.”

Full story: North Carolina students could be required to study the Holocaust

Posted by: MH | Apr 6 2019 19:13 utc | 237

Posted by: MH | Apr 6, 2019 3:13:36 PM | 238
(Trump & Holocaust 'education')

On the other hand all that knee-jerk effort will come to nought if President turn-on-a-dime decides to add Clear Thinking to the school curriculum.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 7 2019 3:14 utc | 238

Hoarsewhisperer 236
'why would or should, the ppl we'd like to save us put their own improving existence at risk on our behalf when we are doing NOTHING to help ourselves?'


NOt only are murkkans doing nothing to rid themselves off the tyrant in DC, the 'China is even worse' crowd is wittingly/unwittingly abetting the west's demonisation campaign on China, hence weakening China's position vs the evil empire.
Their message,
'China is even worse than fukus, its not worth our support' !

Pft is the most enthusiastic practitioner of such psyop.

Recently Circe declare that fukus is only '60% bad',whereas China is '100% rotten', beyond redemption !

Yet in the next breath she blamed China for the Venezuela fiasco, apparently China 'isnt doing enough to thwart fukus shenanigan !

Really, if China is such a monster, why'd it risk its own ass to save the world , let alone saving its worst detractors, the murkkans,. ?

Posted by: denk | Apr 7 2019 4:38 utc | 239

@ denk with the discussion of Circe obsession

This is the appropriate thread to discuss this and should have been where Circe posted about AIPAC but I digress

It is interesting how my use of MoA now mostly includes scrolling down to see who the commenter is before reading. Lots of folks come and go at the MoA bar and it is interesting to read most, but some, like me even, become tedious at times with our message focus.

As I have written to others and Circe at one time I suspect I don't respect focus on "isms" and Zionism is Circe's focus. While I might be convinced that a bunch of words and people can be associated with the term, or any ism, it pales in my brain with comparison with the stark reality of global private finance. Even if one were to rid the earth of Zionism (or any ism) and all the people associated with it we would still have the Western sick form of social organization that has private finance at the core in our real world.

I figure people that come to MoA and continually push isms are paid or otherwise not worth my effort for sharing textual intercourse with non theory/faith breathing logic and reason types

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 7 2019 5:26 utc | 240

: psychohistorian 241

We judge a country by its actions, not its label.

Hence,in the art of governing,
The 'dictators' in Beijing beats the 'elected' leaders in DC hands down.

The CCp has brought up China from a third world shit hole into the world's largest economy in less than a century.
Whereas fukus is slipping from the world's sole hyper power into a third world shit hole.

The world now views China as the engine for positive development, whereas fukus represents a force of wanton destruction.,

No contest.

Posted by: denk | Apr 7 2019 15:14 utc | 241

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