Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
March 05, 2019

Democrats Continue Campaign To Reelect Trump

A few weeks ago Moon of Alabama reported that Russiagate Is Finished:

Nothing, zero, nada was found to support the conspiracy theory. The Trump campaign did not collude with Russia. A few flunkies were indicted for unrelated tax issues and for lying to the investigators about some minor details. But nothing at all supports the dramatic claims of collusion made since the beginning of the affair.
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In a just world the people who for more then two years hyped the conspiracy theory and caused so much damage would be pushed out of their public positions. Unfortunately that is not going to happen. They will jump onto the next conspiracy train and continue from there.

It seems that this was too much to expect from those who believed in Russiagate. These people are unable to think up a new conspiracy theory by themselves. Instead they go for a fishing expedition to find something that they can use to continue the fake outrage:

The House Judiciary Committee sent more than 80 letters demanding all communications from a host of controversies surrounding Trump, as the panel probes whether the president and his administration have engaged in obstruction of justice, corruption and abuse of power.

But rather than a targeted approach, Monday’s request was broad, reaching current and former campaign staffers, top Trump Organization officials, even documents and communications of the National Rifle Association and the British consulting firm Cambridge Analytica. The inquiry touched on a wide array of matters, from the president’s business dealings with Russia to the firing of former FBI director James B. Comey to hush payments made to women. Many of those issues are already being examined by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York — not to mention other committees in the House.
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For months, House Democrats said they would look to Mueller’s findings to determine whether to proceed with impeachment hearings. But Nadler’s request demonstrates that Democrats are preparing to probe well beyond Russia’s interference in the election.

The Democrats try to find something that will put Trump into a bad light. I am sure that there are many shady deals Trump made during his life. But there are many worse things that he is doing right now right under the eyes of Congress.

Instead of focusing on what Trump currently does with deregulating whatever he can, by filling the courts with young conservative judges and by his mismanaging of foreign policy, the Democrats will draw the public attention towards issues in the past that have no relevance for what happens to their electorate right now and in the future.

It is a strategy of political self-castration. Instead of promoting policy issues that can attract voters, the Democrats draw attention to their anti-Trump campaign. That scheme was already tried, tested and failed in 2016. The chance is high that it will also fail in 2020. Trump might well get reelected despite all the dirt the Democrats will uncover during such sham investigations.

The unwillingness of the Democrats to have real political discussion is also visible in their attempt to subdue the new young House members who have come up with real new proposals and ideas. The use of the Zionist lobby AIPAC and false claims of 'anti-semitism' against them is especially outrageous:

When Representative Ilhan Omar landed a coveted seat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Stephen Fiske began working the phones to Capitol Hill.

Alarmed by messaging that he saw as anti-Semitic and by Ms. Omar’s support for the boycott-Israel movement, Mr. Fiske, a longtime activist with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, began texting and calling his friends in Congress to complain. He is hoping Aipac activists will punish Ms. Omar, a freshman Democrat from Minnesota, with a primary challenge in 2020.

On Wednesday, House Democratic leaders will mete out one form of punishment: Spurred by outrage over Ms. Omar’s latest comments suggesting that pro-Israel activists “push for allegiance to a foreign country,” they will put a resolution condemning anti-Semitism on the House floor.

'Anti-semitism', in the false sense of AIPAC and the Democratic leadership bound to it, is anything that is not 100% in support of the racist state of Israel and the Zionism ideology.

The resolution is aimed at House member Ilhan Omar who suggested that such automatic dual loyalty is a problem. It also proves that she is right:

Ilhan Omar @IlhanMN - 20:01 utc - 3 Mar 2019
I am told everyday that I am anti-American if I am not pro-Israel. I find that to be problematic and I am not alone. I just happen to be willing to speak up on it and open myself to attacks.

Ilhan Omar will not be the only one to be targeted like that. The Lobby is aiming at two more:

In Florida, Mr. Fiske said it was time for “pro-Jewish voices to speak up” about Ms. Omar and two other Democratic freshmen who have been critical of Israel: Representatives Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York.

And he offered a prediction: “They are three people who, in my opinion, will not be around in several years.”

The leadership of the Democrats is not defending the three freshmen who proved that they can attract and motivate young voters. It is actively helping the Lobby to oust them. The new policies the newcomers stand for will likewise be discarded.

The Democrats seem to believe that their potential voters have nowhere else to go. That believe is wrong. Elections in the dual party system are won by turnout. If the Democrats don't prove that they have the right policies and attractive politicians, their potential voters will simply stay home. Nearly half of them already do that.

Throwing the kitchen sink at Trump, after Russiagate disastrously failed, might help CNN's quotes. But it is not a substitute for well motivated policy fights. Killing off the next generation of attractive politicians for a few more Benjamins will drive away the young voters attracted by their views.

Together these steps suggest that the Democrats have no real strategy and will to win. They will help Trump to win a second term.

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John Smith says:

China’s Pearl River delta is the site of the most dramatic urbanization in human history

yeah, and as such, it's also the site of what might well be the most polluted area in Asia, or perhaps the world. you know, the usual down side that's never accounted for by our savvy purveyors of eternal economic growth. the water's fucked, the air's fucked, and the forests are being decimated at some unholy rate. garbage problem? you don't wanna know. but man, you can get from Hong Kong to Guangdong in 47 minutes, thus destroying Newton's law of gravity, hahaha. gotta get those shoes and smart phones to market though, no?

someday people will discover that time is, in fact, not money, but just the breathing space between sunrise and sunset, sunset and sunrise.

Posted by: john | Mar 6, 2019 5:47:18 AM | 101

Posted by: john | Mar 6, 2019 5:47:18 AM | 101

yeah, and as such, it's also the site of what might well be the most polluted area in Asia, or perhaps the world.
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Might? Maybe... And maybe not...

22 of the world's 30 most polluted cities are in India

Xi says revival of Chinese economy must not be bought at expense of the environment

Posted by: John Smith | Mar 6, 2019 6:43:11 AM | 102

I'm not aware of Omar accusing American Jews of "dual loyalty".

I do know of Congressman Gottheimer and the New York Times pushing that claim yesterday, but Gottheimer so flagrantly lied about what Omar had said that he's not to be trusted. He said Omar had claimed Israel-AIPAC controls Jews in the US Congress. She said no such thing. She pointed out correctly that AIPAC has massive influence in the entirety of the US Congress.


Gottheirmer in the NY Times:

“The idea that certain members of Congress seemingly believe it is acceptable to use historic anti-Semitic tropes accusing Jews of dual loyalty, despite the broad condemnation of the entire House Democratic leadership, is beyond me,” said Representative Josh Gottheimer, Democrat of New Jersey. “This rhetoric is reminiscent of other hurtful episodes in our history, including when President John F. Kennedy’s loyalty was called into question simply because he was Irish Catholic.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/us/politics/ilhan-omar-israel.html

Posted by: Jay | Mar 6, 2019 6:50:08 AM | 103

John Smith

my point wasn't to determine who gets first prize for environmental destruction...a cursory investigation into their plight is terrifying enough.

regarding what Xi says is, well...the Chinese have already revived their economy at the expense of the environment. all that remains to be seen is what they can do to remedy a grave situation.

Posted by: john | Mar 6, 2019 7:08:46 AM | 104


Excellent article with lots of quotes.

https://mondoweiss.net/2019/03/american-problematic-blizzard/


Also

https://mondoweiss.net/2019/03/hannah-arendt-would/

Arendt went on that Israel’s relations with world Jewry “would become problematical, since their defense interests might clash at any moment with those of other countries where large number of Jews lived.”

That hasn’t happened yet. American Jewish organizations have been only too happy to hold the bag for Israel. Well-placed Zionists such as Dennis Ross and Richard Perle speak at Washington think tanks about the need for Israel’s “defensible borders.”

But the support that Ilhan Omar is getting from progressives and young Jews suggests that the era of the Israel lobby is coming to an end. Because as she wrote in 1944, that long support “may turn out to be very troublesome indeed for Jews in this country.”

What Arendt’s prophecies demonstrate is that the question of Israel’s reliance on lobbies in the United States was a problem built into Zionism, and one that absolutely merits serious consideration by progressive Jews and foreign policy experts. For her critique was based on a worthy idea: Israel cannot continue to govern without the consent of those governed.

A serious consideration of these issues is exactly what Israel and its lobby don’t want. No wonder they are trying to run Omar off the road."

Posted by: daffyDuct | Mar 6, 2019 8:09:25 AM | 105

@john 104
England chopped down all her trees to create farmland - they totally destroyed the environment - but it didn't do them any harm and it now looks quite nice. I work in the region you talk about and the air pollution over the last 5 years has improved so much that it is quite unrecognizable. All a matter or perspective: is a mobile worse or better than a book?

Posted by: aspnaz | Mar 6, 2019 8:37:44 AM | 106

@84

And you really think I didn't intend to write doth? You really think I'm not as familiar with the expression as you? I have some weird system program that automatically replaces typos sometimes with the wrong word. I probably typed dith instead of doth and it replaced it with with. Actually, it tried to replace doth in this sentence with Roth but I noticed what it did this time and went back to change it. Sometimes when I'm in a hurry I miss one. It's as annoying as you picking up on a simple unintended error to score a point 😞! Really, is that your bar for scoring points?
Pretty low.👎

Posted by: Circe | Mar 6, 2019 10:09:03 AM | 107

aspnaz says:

England chopped down all her trees to create farmland - they totally destroyed the environment - but it didn't do them any harm and it now looks quite nice

hmmm, interesting perspective. sure, it's a slow process, but there's a very distinct correlation between deforestation and the likelihood of humans to survive, but i'll let you do your own research.

Posted by: john | Mar 6, 2019 10:20:44 AM | 108

"Doth" is only used with third person singular subjects, as in the Shakespeare original "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Subject "thou" takes "dost" and subject "you" takes "do".

Posted by: lysias | Mar 6, 2019 10:47:34 AM | 109

@93 john smith.. that pic was shared in a post by b within the last few weeks.. old news..

@100 uncle tungsten... i agree... lets see how it develops..

@104 john.. you might enjoy this article... recycling is broken.. china isn't taking all of the usa's garbage anymore.. the implications are ominous... good way to respond to a trade war, lol.

https://earther.gizmodo.com/recycling-is-broken-1833063010


Posted by: james | Mar 6, 2019 12:01:25 PM | 110

@106

For a start, books don't track you, or provide valuable data to third parties. Also, books don't consume rare elements. There's also the issue of electromagnetic radiation, books don't cause that either.

Posted by: Some Random Passer-by | Mar 6, 2019 12:08:50 PM | 111

Getting back to our host's topic at hand, that is, the Democratic leadership being hellbent on attacking, investigating and fulfilling Steyer's wish of impeachment while dismissing the very idea of offering meaningful policy, not the free chit that only serves as lure to dupes, that would benefit not only their base but citizens in general will result in further division within the Dem party.

Some call the duplicitous nature of the Dems/Reps a duopoly, while others refer to it as UniParty. Whatever one calls it the very nature of such a hidden strategem poses an extreme danger to the overall health and governance of the USA. The current leadership in both the House and Senate have invested years of time, boatloads of money and unrelenting effort to remove any and all accountability to the voter. Period. They have succeeded.

Some here may recall an image of John Boehner, former Speaker of the House, in a NASCAR driver suit with logos from all of his corporate sponsors all over it. Well, take that image and multiply it by 534. The U.S. Congress is one-hundred percent owned by the corporate globalists who, as Jen pointed out, also own the Tory's and Labour and so many more.

Remember that little goal called the New World Order? The only thing standing in the way of its fruition is the guy so many have been brainwashed to loathe sitting in the White House. He's it. Not Xi. Not Vlad. Just him. Remove him and the gig is back on only this time it will be jacked up on massive steroids. No one will be able to stop it. If losing sovereignty, borders, a modicum of freedom while being ruled by a global entity who will tether your every waking moment to a 'social credit score' then by all means continue to hold onto the status quo's mirage of governance.

Wishing for your Dem guy or Rep gal to not be in the Big Club is known as naivete. All of our guys and gals are owned. All of them. Your guy or gal is not an exception.

Accepting this cold hard fact remains a challenge to the voting electorate in the United States, but the sooner the voters wise up the sooner we can get on with a real revolution of ideas to at a minimum restore accountability to the people from those we elect to hold office. Term limits is an excellent beginning.

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John Doe @70 that quote is spot on.

Posted by: h | Mar 6, 2019 12:10:54 PM | 112

I agree that Dem leadership is messed up on the Omar thing. But it's false to lay out an either/or - either Dems propose policy changes or they go after Trump. I call BS on that. They can and should do both. Even in this weak piece you admit that Trump is up to no good and has a big history of doing bad things. And your big idea is to ignore all that? It works for the GOP. They spent years yelling "lock her up" and while no one got locked up they shifted the frame significantly. The Dems can be smart about this. They can use this as an opportunity to point out how morally debased the GOP is. They can use it to point out how wealthy people don't just stay wealthy because of tax loopholes and high-priced lawyers and accountants but because they are crooks. There is so much opportunity here to charge up the base by laying out the corruption of Trump and his supporters. Then they will have a super-charged weapon they can point at all of Trump's supporters. He's not the only one engaging in fraudulent behavior.

The problem though, and Moon does not address this, is that if the Dems are serious and point out the nefariousness of the oligarchs they will inevitably get brought down by the same weapons. Plenty of Dems are in bed with the oligarchs. The fear isn't that it will distract them from good policy-making but that it will bring about self-inflicted harm. And even if they succeed in uncovering a mountain of fraud it will take one Democrat with a little molehill of fraud and we will have Ted Cruz in the presidency in 2020. The Dems just don't play that game very well.

Posted by: The Hang Nail | Mar 6, 2019 12:35:44 PM | 113

The Uniparty marches onwards. Everything for them, war and austerity for us. Same as it ever was.

Posted by: so | Mar 6, 2019 12:37:50 PM | 114

I agree that the Democrats are stupid to blame Russia for everything, but I'm glad that they are using their new power in the House to fish for other dirt in Trumps past (and present). Trump is an amoral grifter, and he's pretty obviously been abusing the Presidency for profit. The previous GOP-majority Congress studiously avoided that responsibility, and I'm glad the Democrats are taking it on.

There are several likely positive results from snooping around Trump's shady history, before & after getting elected:

- They may well find impeachable offenses (emoluments, witness-tampering, influence-peddling, etc). And if it's bad enough, enough GOP Senators could vote to dump him (GOP hierarchy would prefer to run Pence in 2020, but can't admit that to the Trumpist rabble).
- Shining light on Trump's history of shabby deals could lead to better enforcement of financial laws & regulations, maybe even lead us to clean up Wall Street a bit.
- Same only moreso on Trump's Income Tax filings. Seems like a great way to build support for actually enforcing taxation of the Rich.
- Distracting Trump from doing more stupid stuff. He'll be glued to the TV, and it will infuriate him, setting off even more unhinged public rants. (As long as they keep him away from the Button!)

Possible Bonus: there's a very good chance that there are some dirty AIPAC connections in Trump's history, and he's obviously not good at covering his tracks. Exposing some of that can open up other threads to pull; and even if the Democrats are afraid to follow up on that, it is likely to create leads for creative journalists (like b!).


People who hate Hillary [more than Trump] don't understand the visceral reaction that many of us have to Trump becoming President. He is a lousy human being, and it's just gross to have him as "our leader". Seeing TDS in my peers & friends, and feeling the disgust myself (I change channels when his voice comes on the radio), I think I understand the anti-Obama fervor a bit better (without excusing the racism behind it). The Democratic Party has been playing defense since 1980, and they have finally found something to rally against. Sure, I would prefer that they focus on issues, but you can't deny that it's working - Democrats and Progressives have the initiative for the first time in decades. I'm quite happy about that.

Posted by: elkern | Mar 6, 2019 12:42:53 PM | 115

Labour members are quitting the Labour Party to form an Independent Zionist-hugging Party. The Lobby has been feverishly trying to sabotage Jeremy Corbyn's chances to lead the next U.K. government.

Labour mp's quit


Opposing Ireland's free exercise in democracy.:

In a letter to Irish political leaders, the 10 members of Congress suggested that some corporations investing in Ireland would be violating US export regulations if the Dublin authorities enforced a ban on Israel’s settlement goods.

us lawmakers bully ireland


And now they want to silence Ilhan Omar and divide Democrats like they're doing with Labour so Trump wins for Israel's benefit again.

The Lobby is busy undermining democracy everywhere, but 'scuse me for the Anti-Semitic trope, right?

Posted by: Circe | Mar 6, 2019 12:43:33 PM | 116

Quentin @10

I don't think AOC is fake. She seems a genuinely idealistic person - not necessarily with all the right ideas, but open to learning. Here is an article about AOC's mother from the Daily Mail that tells you a lot about the daughter.

Bernie Sanders is definitely fake - he's a stalking horse by vocation. Setting up Hillary is one instance, but not the only one. I take it you know the Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank set up to parasitize the United States. Look up Ellen Brown's website to fill in the details. Bernie Sanders was the Senate sponsor of a bill to audit the Fed. It passed overwhelmingly in the House, a tribute to Ron Paul's ceaseless effort. But when it got to the Senate, Bernie Sanders gutted his own bill. Google 'ron paul says bernie sanders gutted the audit the fed bill' to get a video of Ron Paul telling you about Sanders' treachery.

Posted by: sarz | Mar 6, 2019 1:05:39 PM | 117

james

thanks for the article. yeah, what do capitalists do when an existential problem's solution is no longer profitable? :(

Posted by: john | Mar 6, 2019 1:24:32 PM | 118

It is surreal to watch these politicians pretend to fight with each other, while ever so carefully avoiding any meaningful or visible positive changes in the administration of this government.

Posted by: Josh | Mar 6, 2019 1:48:43 PM | 119

"The Uniparty marches onwards. Everything for them, war and austerity for us. Same as it ever was."

Posted by: so | Mar 6, 2019 12:37:50 PM | 114

Cynical, but understandably so..

Posted by: ben | Mar 6, 2019 2:22:09 PM | 120

elkhern. @115:
"People ... don't understand the visceral reaction that many of us have to Trump becoming President."

People do understand because the visceral reaction is in evidence every day. It even has a moniker: TDS. (Trump Derangement Syndrome). Hurt feelings, personal discomfort, and subjective revulsion are not grounds to remove or disrupt a sitting president. What of the almost 63 million people who voted for Trump? Do they not get a say? Is their vote cancelled because some people think "it's gross to have him as our leader"? Why do your feelings or those of your friends take precedence? Those are actual questions, as I have noticed these sentiments elsewhere.

Nadler in effect told the public that Trump will be under investigation every single day of his presidency. I suppose the real crime is having the effrontery of running for president and actually winning. Just like Manafort's real crime was working for Trump's campaign (he had the book thoroughly tossed at him). Don't cross the establishment or face legal jeopardy. The justice system in the USA has become fully (I dislike the word but it fits) "weaponized". Here is another facet of that:

https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2019/03/05/us-hopes-to-force-meng-wanzhou-to-spill-on-huawei-say-former-federal-prosecutors.html

"“I think (the goal) is not just to put her behind bars, but it’s to give her a hefty sentence and then try to get her to co-operate.”

Posted by: jayc | Mar 6, 2019 2:36:17 PM | 121

United States' Special Representative for Venezuela Elliott Abrams became the target of Vladimir 'Vovan' Kuznetsov and Alexei 'Lexus' Stolyarov, a pair of Russian comedians known for their prank phone calls to politicians from around the world.

https://sputniknews.com/amp/latam/201903061072985338-elliot-abrams-russian-pranksters-usa-venezuela/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1LLsffYH3E

Posted by: John Doe | Mar 6, 2019 2:52:26 PM | 122

@ jayc | Mar 6, 2019 2:36:17 PM | 121
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Since there's no "upvote" mechanism on MOA threads, which is OK with me, I'll have to do it the long way.

But I'll add my usual personal anecdote: I spent Thanksgiving Day 2016 with a small group of elderly (post-60) adults and my thirtysomething nephew. (I was 61 then, so I was one of the elderly guests.)

Except for my taciturn, noncommittal nephew and me, everybody was in deep shock and grief over Trump's election. They are all well-educated advanced-degree holders-- stereotypical members of the would-be Amerikan intelligentsia. They read the New York Times religiously, although one woman lamented that "she couldn't stop watching CNN since the election because she needed to understand what happened."

I lapsed into Odd Man Out stoicism, so I didn't gently inform this poor grieving woman that CNN is not the source of wisdom and clarity she presumably thinks it is.

Needless to say, they were all certain that a considerable majority of voters would agree that Hillary Clinton was the best-qualified candidate-- or, at any rate, the only candidate worth voting for given that the abominable Trump was the "alternative".

It was an early and illuminating exhibition of TDS: mind-blown groupthink. It was a given that the monstrous Trump had no redeeming qualities, and that his victory must surely be a sign of collective madness and badness.

I actually think so too, but not in the way they do.

I mention this day because later on, during a holiday outing with one of the other guests, she cautiously asked me how I could "like" Trump. She assumed this because I hadn't joined in the Thanksgiving Day mourning, and didn't rise to the bait to add my 2¢ when right-thinking people conversationally trashed Trump. She didn't put it that way, but that's what she meant.

Trump's election was like a steamroller that flattened their already narrow, conformist perspective. The binary thinking, it burns!

Posted by: Ort | Mar 6, 2019 4:07:22 PM | 123

pat lang reads moa.

a day late and a dollar short, lol..

Posted by: james | Mar 6, 2019 6:02:30 PM | 124

Ort @123--

Thanks for your anecdote. I linked to this Hudson-Dore interview on the current Venezuela thread and put it here too because your "one woman" has her question answered by Dore: Hillary said she'd be Obama's third term, and millions of people voted with their "backsides," which allowed Trump to win.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 6, 2019 7:49:59 PM | 125

@ james #124

From your link:

Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.), who is among the Jewish members involved in crafting the initial resolution, rose to defend the resolution and, according to one member present, grew emotional.

That one of the main "Israel First" congressmen grew emotional was a surprise? I wonder why Mr. Lang didn't urge the good neocon zionist from Florida to join God's Party - the ones who really pledge unswerving allegiance to the apartheid Jewish state. Becoming "Rep. Ted Deutch (R-Fla.) might make a strong statement to the world about this dreadful situation.

As for Mr. Lang's belief that Congresswoman Omar was giving "sympathy" to the terrorist group Shabaab, here is the text of a piece I found with a duckduckgo search.

Ilhan Omar Blamed United States After Al-Shabaab terror attack

In 2013 a Muslim jihadist terror group Al-Shabaab committed a brutal attack on a Kenyan shopping mall. Four terrorists stormed a mall killing 70 people and wounding 200.

In a video unearthed by Fox News, Ilhan Omar and controversial Twin Cities PBS talk show host Ahmet Tharwat discuss how the terrorist attacks are “byproducts of the actions of our involvement in other people’s affairs”

Fox News reports that the same talk show host also gave a platform to anti-semite who participated and won 2nd place, in 2006 Iranian International Holocaust Cartoon Competition. A competition promoting Holocaust denial. The talk show is sponsored by taxpayer dollars and is part of Public Broadcasting Service.

During their discussion, Omar stated “Usually most people want to not look internal and see what their actions that make another react. For us, it’s always ‘I must have not done anything. Why is it happening to me?’ Nobody wants to take accountability of how these are byproducts of the actions of our involvement in other people’s affairs.”

I have to wonder if Mr. Lang isn't spending a wee bit too much time watching Fox.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Mar 6, 2019 8:15:44 PM | 126

"In a political earthquake, Dems pull bill condemning anti-Semitism after split over Ilhan Omar explodes"
https://mondoweiss.net/2019/03/condemning-semitism-explodes/

"Divides among House Democrats exploded today beginning in a closed door session this morning where lawmakers argued with party leadership over a resolution to denounce anti-Semitism, an apparent move to condemn Rep. Ilhan Omar.

According to the Washington Post the meeting descended into a “full-scale brawl” when representatives, primarily from the Congressional Black Caucus called to cancel the vote, and in an amazing turn of events the bill was delayed indefinitely by early evening. One source in the room said Rep. Jan Schakowsky demanded (D-IL), “Everyone stop tweeting!” as decorum fell."

Posted by: daffyDuct | Mar 6, 2019 8:53:57 PM | 127

@126 zachary.. thanks.. i agree and am happy you are making those observations, as i share them.. pat is old school military dude and christian - not sure if he is the fundamental type, but my guess is he is quite rigid in his thinking, so more yes, then no.. and as the quote you share highlights - what omar was saying was more 'stop the constant invasion of others countries' as opposed to her being a supporter of al shabbad.. but, and this happens all the time in the usa - if you don't agree with the war agenda you are branded something worse - thus pats condemnation of omar... he is really quite pathetic and not bright enough to see how his attitude contributes to the warmongering..

@127 daffyduct.. thanks.. i was just reading that before i came here!

Posted by: james | Mar 6, 2019 9:06:09 PM | 128

further to daffy's link - i thought it was interesting aoc siding with omar.. one brownie point for aoc on that..

and, amazingly the dems decided not to shoot themselves in the foot right away... a glimmer of sanity temporarily descended on the party!

Posted by: james | Mar 6, 2019 9:07:55 PM | 129

as i read down further into the article - the dems are really lame ass, lame ass... i don't know that there is hope for them.. they are shutting the attack on omar down and not addressing the issue she has raised.. they want to keep it about anti-semitism.. pathetic..

Posted by: james | Mar 6, 2019 9:09:54 PM | 130

i find myself in full agreement with the letter writer to mondoweiss at the top and to which i quote down below.. the dems have not dodged a bullet here.. nothing has changed.. they just want to shut the conversation down with their cheap talk..

"JWalters March 6, 2019, 7:30 pm

“You can disagree wholeheartedly, but do not question their patriotism or their loyalty to our country in any way, and that holds for the Republicans as well,” Pelosi reportedly said

I’m sorry, and with all due respect, but given the evidence, and lots of it, I find myself, by a process of logic and common sense, questioning Nancy Pelosi’s loyalty to America versus her loyalty to Israel.

She has made her loyalty to Israel overwhelmingly clear. But on the very serious question of a foreign government in effect controlling America’s main press outlets and America’s main politicians, Nancy Pelosi is unwilling to even look at the large amount of GLARING evidence. This indicates willful avoidance. I must ask “why?”

How about the Dems protesting Trump taking $30 million from Sheldon Adelson and then moving the embassy to Jerusalem? How about protesting the Israelis (aka “neocons”) filling the administration and pushing the country toward another bloody, wasteful war for Israel, Iraq 2.0 in Iran?

Or is Nancy concerned that we must be sensitive to the feelings of Haim Saban?"

Posted by: james | Mar 6, 2019 9:58:01 PM | 131

FYI

Represent Us describes their Movement to end corruption: Unbreaking America.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 6, 2019 11:47:38 PM | 132

@127 daffyDuct

Everyone stop tweeting except Donald J. Trump. The Dems get more stupid by the minute. That's two dumb things in one day: trying to silence one of their own and trying to silence everyone else in the Party. Trump wins. He gets satisfaction over the shaming of Omar and he has Twitter all to himself. Good job Democrats! Continue eating your own. Dems are in the process of writing a manual for political dummies: How to snatch DEFEAT from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 7, 2019 1:57:55 AM | 133

@117 sarz

Bernie had to water down the bill to get it to pass. There was no way that bill was going to pass as it stood. So then what would be the point??? There's only one way to get a bill through without compromise. Vote the bastards who wouldn't vote on it OUT!

Posted by: Circe | Mar 7, 2019 2:21:42 AM | 134

"Bernie had to water down the bill to get it to pass. "

Poor old Bernie. And how very brave of him, after all, operating as the "Left-wing" of the Military Industrial Complex must be a very lonely place to be. I'm sure his expensive house and large bank account keeps him warm at night though

Posted by: AOC@Fake | Mar 7, 2019 4:16:44 AM | 135

further to daffy's link - i thought it was interesting aoc siding with omar.. one brownie point for aoc on that..
Posted by: james | Mar 6, 2019 9:07:55 PM | 129

It's all about maintaining her image as "pwogwessive'. AOC is all about maintaining the image.

But that's all it is . . . . an image

Posted by: AOC=Fake | Mar 7, 2019 4:19:35 AM | 136

Two tweets from AOC, the fake, which poo it her alleged "support" for Omar into context:

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    · Mar 5, 2019
    Replying to @AOC
    “Calling out” is one of the measures of last resort, not 1st or 2nd resort.

    We do it when repeated attempts to “call in” are disrespected or ignored. And I believe that Ilhan, in her statement a few weeks ago, has demonstrated a willingness to listen+work w/impacted communities.


    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    @AOC
    I often think about how I work with white or male allies when they say something insensitive.

    The 1st thing I do is pull them aside + say “hey, you may not be aware of X thing regarding Latinx people, but here is the history and it’s hurtful. If you want to learn more, read Y.”

    20.2K
    2:51 PM - Mar 5, 2019

See? Omar's being "hurtful", so AOC is prepared to give her another chance, because perhaps Omar did it inadvertently. Oh, but if she does it again, the gloves will come off


Essentially AOC is signalling to her handlers and backers that she'll happily and willingly stab Omar in the back of Omar doesn't STFU and get with the program.

Posted by: AOC=Fake | Mar 7, 2019 4:32:12 AM | 137

**which put her alleged support

Posted by: AOC=Fake | Mar 7, 2019 4:33:00 AM | 138

Pelosi under fire:

Ilhan Omar Controversy Caps a Month of Stumbles for Democratic Leaders

Ms. Pelosi and her team had hoped to move quickly past an agonizing internal debate that publicly exposed racial and religious divisions in the party. But during a testy closed-door meeting on Wednesday, a handful of her rank-and-file members criticized her plan to push a resolution condemning anti-Semitism and other bigotry in response to Ms. Omar’s comments all but accusing supporters of Israel of dual loyalty.

The backlash forced her to delay a vote she had hoped would take place this week.
...
“We are actually making great progress on gun safety legislation, on democracy reform, on prescription drug reform — and Republicans would like nothing more than for us to be dragged down into daily skirmishes over identity politics at this point,” said Representative Jamie Raskin of Maryland.

“We have to get past all of this, and quickly,” he added.
...
Ms. Pelosi said the “picture painted of Ms. Omar is wrong,” and told the lawmakers that the language of the resolution was still under discussion, and that no date had been set for a vote.

Representative Jahana Hayes, Democrat of Connecticut, told Ms. Pelosi that she had “put us in a bad position,” and complained that she learned of the resolution by watching television.

Posted by: b | Mar 7, 2019 5:39:50 AM | 139

...
The Lobby is busy undermining democracy everywhere, but 'scuse me for the Anti-Semitic trope, right?
Posted by: Circe | Mar 6, 2019 12:43:33 PM | 116

Jews aren't semites so their loonie anti-semitic accusations are based on a trope.
True anti-semitism is reflected in the Free Land holocaust Jews have been perpetrating in Jewish-Occupied Palestine for 70+ years. In contrast to their never-ending holocaust in Palestine, their Favourite Holocaust lasted less than a decade thanks to humane intervention.

If there were more Good Jews than Nasty Jews then they would have been able to persuade the Nasty Jews to shut down the Palestinian Holocaust and stop giving Jews a bad reputation. But there weren't enough Good Jews to achieve that outcome and, 70+ years on, it seems that there still aren't.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 7, 2019 7:48:03 AM | 140

@132 jackrabbit... i watched that video and thought it was pretty good... thanks... hopefully others get involved..

@136/137 aoc=fake.. i tend to agree with you.. so much image management, it is hard to know what the person really thinks or feels..

@139 b... with so much b.s. coming from pelosi, no wonder ther is dissension in the ranks..

Posted by: james | Mar 7, 2019 10:35:52 AM | 141

Trump's zionist(blech)ties,he is toast.

Posted by: dahoit | Mar 7, 2019 1:11:59 PM | 142

CNN carrying water for Zionism all day long obsessing over Ilhan's comments that reveal the truth that there is a Zionist loyalty litmus test for anyone who is elected to the duopoly that forms the U.S. government. The virulent attacks on Omar prove it's indeed a duopoly in service of Zionism. The hypocrisy expressed in the attacks on Omar is breathtaking considerding what a bigotted, inhumane and illegal operation Zionism has turned out to be.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 7, 2019 1:53:44 PM | 143

Trump should not be impeached for collusion with Russia. There is a case to be made, however, that he should be impeached for collusion with Israel and Saudi Arabia. There is also the matter of his declaration of a state of emergency to allow funding for his ridiculous Wall, which is actually potentially even more serious.

Posted by: David Hollander | Mar 7, 2019 2:13:40 PM | 144

First, I'm tempted to say AOC is fake is fake. But I will bite my tongue. Maybe a Green Party plant. Maybe standard issue GOP or Russian troll farm serf. So many obsessed with that young lady it is clear she possesses a great deal of something that's getting under the skin of the PTB. Why would that bother commenters here?

What is happening in the Democratic Party of course fulfills my prophecy from many years ago. I know how much that bothers people. LOL. Living the dream online since 2004.

The left can only succeed electorally (and yes, thin gruel at best but when the alternative is starvation and death?) through the Demotardic Party, which can be taken over from within if there is a will and an organised movement in that vein. This long imagined struggle is now a reality. AOC is fake. Whither Omar, Tlaib, Hanna et al. We also know Sanders is of course 100% fake but here he is again, and he's the inspiration for the others, not to mention an automatic front runner in his own write. If there really is something called an Overton Window on the left (it's clearly existed on the right at least since Nixon) then Bernie is the Overton window frame if nothing else.

There remains zero possibility in our lifetimes for a credible third party in the US. The Revolution itself is more likely than some gigantic troll party of likeminded internet addicts ever able to rustle up 65 million votes across all 50 states for its candidate slate.

So let's face facts shall we? The US of A-holes are a dualistic nation of unruly rabble consisting of differing ethnicities, tastes, frames of mind and subcultures, all suffering various degrees of dementia and short term memory loss, substance abuse addiction, internet addiction, cancer, leprosy, measles, mumps, low grade hysteria.

It is never wise to generalise but....

many here seem to perpetuate a belief in something nebulous, if not a third party fantasy exactly, then maybe a dream of revolution which will crash the system once and for all time. Others perhaps more realistically substitute the coming environmental collapse or a demented dream of a long predicted nuclear war from which China by virtue of its greater numbers will be positioned post-apocalypse to lead humanity out of the ashes.

But for the most part, egged on by the seeming success of the master pol Putin (whose success is also mostly a PR creation...but that's another story), the pervasive attitude is authoritarianism gets things done where liberal democracy is the big fail. The Nazis make the trains run on time while the bumbling Chamberlain can't even hand over the keys to the Sudetenland without first dropping them in the toilet.

Fair enough, but it seems to me this belief in masteful authoritarian rescuers of the Little Guy is also a mistake born of first world cynicism.

To be sure, Trump is doing all in his power to precipitate the environmental collapse. He may even fire off a nuke or two before he leaves office just to say he did it. He is an extremely successful nihilist no doubt, but nihilism is an easily affordable pasttime for the ultra wealthy.

Methinks these notions of a glorious non-future emanate primarily from caucasian posters average age about 70 who once dreamed of trashing the system in our youth but didn't have the will power to see it through (projection alert). I doubt the younger generation gives two flips what a failed cohort of geezers trending towards nihilist fascism thinks or desires for their future.

In closing, I must state for the record: b was absolutely incorrect in his midterms projections. So why believe him now?

He may well have predicted Trump in 2016 when most others outside GOP circles gave him no chance. Obviously, 2016 gave him license as a US election pundit. I'm holding my baited breath now hoping to someday see him fulminating on a Fox News roundtable...maybe after the coming Bannon resurrection....goes something like...blame the Trump Administration's complete failure not on Trump but on the Trump Administration figures such as Abrams, Bolton and the assorted Wall Street bozos who managed to subvert Trump's own populist policies and also somehow managed to be selected for Administration roles by the Great Orange Poopulist hisself.

"It's not his fault" is Trump's latest stirring line of whingeing self defense and b implies this too, if not screaming it to high heaven.

And, no matter what the excuses, the circle is further closing in on the Donald who has accomplished only (surprise!) tax cuts for the rich in two years. The SCOTUS judges belong to McConnell, truth be told.

The budget deficit has exploded off the charts during an economic recovery. His foreign policy is a very hot mess everywhere. Those troops leaving Syria? We applauded Trump for that word but oops....not happening in fact after all....according to the Trumper in his own words. Trump's own words are faker than AOC is fake is fake.

The trade deficit is expanding off the charts too. GM is closing plants. Blue collar jobs are not coming back. The Deplorables in WI MI and PA just voted in a passel of national and statewide Demotards in the midterms.

Sooner or later the bubble economy will burst again and shit anew all over the deplorables. If it happens before 11/2020, then what?

The Trump political record is now in full frontal view. Soon so will his financial records be.

Posted by: donkeytale | Mar 7, 2019 3:03:34 PM | 145

@ b with the Pelosi update at # 139

The propaganda machine is ramping up and I am so glad to not have a TV. I report this because Catlin Johnstone just put up a posting about the Megan McCain meltdown about this issue on her The View TV show.

What ethnic group owns all the MSM? Prepare yourself to be inundated with the correct way to view our world about Ms Omar and her speaking truth to power......all from reliable sources.......GRIN

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 7, 2019 9:44:27 PM | 146

@144 david hollander... but, the dems have some special problem with russia, so i doubt they are going to mention israel or ksa.. or, only in so far as they want omar to walk the walk and talk the talk like a true democrat... in a race to the bottom, i can't tell who is winning - repubs or dems, lol...

@145 psychohistorian... they were giving propaganda lessons yesterday at the usa state dept press briefing.. every little bit helps!

Posted by: james | Mar 7, 2019 11:28:22 PM | 147

So Trump finds the Resolution Dems passed disgraceful and the Dems anti-Jewish and anti-Israel. Okay so I too find the Resolution a joke because it was a distraction from addressing Israel's crimes, but yet again, Trump proves he's a Zionist stooge. This is all everyone needs to know to ensure he doesn't get a second term. Who the f#ck cares what else he believes! The fact he's a Zionist disqualifies him in every way. OUT!

I cannot believe that intelligent people around here ever supported him! From the beginning he made no secret of being a Zionist with the speech he gave to AIPAC! I hope everyone finally sees the writing on the wall. Trump was Chosen by his Zionist masters to advance the Neocon agenda and that's exactly what he's done. Period. Nothing more to spin or see. Now let's move on and ensure he goes back to tweeting from his Trump tower on his gold toilet and retires there like the pathetic corrupt, rich slob he is!

Posted by: Circe | Mar 8, 2019 10:39:23 AM | 148

...
In closing, I must state for the record: b was absolutely incorrect in his midterms projections. So why believe him now?
...
Posted by: donkeytale | Mar 7, 2019 3:03:34 PM | 145

b's post for November 7, 2018 links back to his hunch published at the end of October. Based on his hunch b made 3 projections and supplied supporting info...
1 & 2. Trump would increase the Republican majority in both houses.
3. Trump is here to stay.

2 correct projections out of 3 ain't bad - or mostly incorrect.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 8, 2019 10:45:10 AM | 149

RT is now reporting that Chelsea Manning has been arrested for contempt of court for refusing to testify against WikiLeaks, once again Democrats are convincing anti-war democrats that voting third party or staying home is the only vote that makes a difference

Posted by: Kadath | Mar 8, 2019 11:27:48 AM | 150

Well, Idk Hoarse.

As evidenced by your own formatting 1 & 2 these predictions must be taken together. Losing the House, and especially losing seats throughout Deplorable Country, most especially to leftist Muslim women in the MN and MI is a very yuge defeat. Plus losing Assholish GOP governours in WI and MI just adds salt to those open wounds.

3. Trump is here to stay. What does that even mean? Electorally in 2018 it meant squat. Trump staying on in 2021 after he loses in 2020...now that would be something.

b went 0 for 2 in the predictions department.

Posted by: donkeytale | Mar 8, 2019 1:41:00 PM | 151

@149 Hw

Wrong. TRUMP IS NOT HERE TO STAY!

@ 150 K

Wasn't it Obama that granted Manning clemency and Trump who objected and wanted them to keep him in prison and throw away the key? Sooo, your conclusion is somewhat presumptuous, and I'm being very kind. Never mind, it's pure bullshet,and I don't even like Obama! What I do hate more than anything though is bullshet.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 8, 2019 2:04:06 PM | 152

Good point about turn out being critical. And the lack of turn out that hurt Clinton was that of African American voters. The attacks on Rep. Omar will not sit well with many black voters. One thing that alot of people do not realize is that there is a belief among many African Americans that Jews were the primary drivers of slavery. And these attacks make the white power structure look like they will favor and protect (white) Jewish interests over and above that of African Americans.

Another aspect of Russiagate that is overlooked is how it has literally sucked up all the oxygen on voter fraud and suppression against black people. It is not Russia trolls in St. Petersburg that are effecting elections, but actual, real voter suppression tactics of Americans agianst other Americans. In Georgia, something like 340,000 black voters were kicked off the rolls including Martin Luther King's 92 year old cousin who was not allowed to vote. Except for black activists, the white power structure of the democratic party has done next to nothing about this (Democrats will engage in there own voter suppresion and cheating during the primaries as happened with Bernie Sanders).

The Russianage narrative was and is an evolving beast from day one. It will mutate and change, but it will not go away for a long time. It took about seven years for the US to get out of the McCarthy era. Still too much money to make out if for a number of years.

Posted by: Erelis | Mar 9, 2019 4:13:32 PM | 153

@ ralphieboy #99

I highly doubt Trump's personal tax returns will reveal anything about Russian ties. US Tax returns are basically summaries of a person's wages and deductions. There is no special line in them requesting all income from Russians. Neither will Putin be sending Trump a 1099-MISC. A personal return is not a detailed leger of financial transactions.

Posted by: Erelis | Mar 9, 2019 4:29:30 PM | 154

@150 Kadath

Sorry for my reply to you. While I firmly believe Trump would like to see Manning back in prison, and his position on Manning is indefensible, you were right about the Dems! I'm dumbfounded to learn many Democrats, specifically Hillary supporters who blame Wikileaks for Hillary's loss, have turned on Manning for refusing to testify against Wikileaks. If they keep going this route, I agree with you, they are going to turn off anti-war Dems and Trump will win again. I'm sickened by their betrayal of Manning!

Posted by: Circe | Mar 9, 2019 10:23:11 PM | 155

@158 There is a fundamental disconnect between Diaspora Jewry and International Zionist Jewry such as represented by Likud (and Trump). Diaspora Jews generally support Israel although not without some degree of criticism. However, most Diaspora Jews will never make Aliyah (immigration to Israel) and will continue to reside permanently in their current host countries. This is best made possible by encouraging a tolerant, inclusive society in those countries. This fits best with traditional policies of the Democratic Party. Zionist Jews are really not interested in maintaining a comfortable Diaspora. Just the opposite in fact, they prefer an intolerant and hostile society in order to promote aliyah. There is considerable historical precedence for this. It's really not in the interest of Diaspora Jews to attempt to completely suppress any criticism of Israel, especially in a very open and obvious way, this could lead to backlash. Zionist neoconservatives such as Podhoretz never seem to get this.

Posted by: David Hollander | Mar 11, 2019 10:48:23 AM | 156

What is Trump actually doing? *Tax cuts for the rich *Showering the Armies of Mordor with money, and nonstop poking the Russian Bear in order to justify doing so *Trying to steal Venezuela's oil *Waging war for Israel. All great stuff! Nothing a good Democrat couldn't get behind. Of course the White House offers a certain ... prestige. But if you manage to stay relevant in the eyes of your donors, and assure them of your enduring loyalty, that's almost just as well. The only way for the Dems to screw up is to win on a platform the donors dislike; no way a seasoned operator like Pelosi will allow that mistake.

When I try to look at this "antisemitism" I hear so much about, it mostly seems to consist of demanding that jews and Israel follow exactly the same rules that bind the rest of us. This amounts to denying that jews are Chosen in the eyes of God, forever victims (even when they are say Congressmen or bankers of great wealth and power), and simply very, very precious. The major jewish organizations won't stand for it. Meanwhile, when the swastika is actually being flown, Orthodox cemeteries are desecrated, and Hassidic pilgrimages attacked--oh wait that's Ukraine, so this stuff is being downplayed, including by those same jewish organizations. It all seems like a scam to me, cultivating a guilt complex in the way the bishops used to be so adept at.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Mar 12, 2019 8:08:28 AM | 157

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