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January 09, 2019

Stuff To Read: Integrity Initiative, Skripal, Kaspersky ...

The is no original piece ready to post today, but here are some interesting links:

  • The Russian anti-virus company Kaspersky was contacted by someone who it found to be related to the U.S. National Security Agency. Kaspersky immediately told the NSA about the contact. Following that tip the FBI arrested Harold T. Martin, a NSA contractor who had collected the NSA entire arsenal of digital weapon at is home. Despite that very helpful tip by Kaspersky the U.S. government continues to harass the company and to claim that it was working as an agent of the Russian government.
    Exclusive: How a Russian firm helped catch an alleged NSA data thief, Kim Zettler, Politico


There are several new stories about the Integrity Initiative though still none in any mainstream media.

Apropos Skripal

  • Over several months Rob Slane at The Blogmire did a detailed analysis of the Skripal case and the often contradictory information that officials and media have published. Rob has the advantage of living in Salisbury, where the Skripals were allegedly poisoned. Today he published the summation of his series about the case:
    Summing up the Official Claims in the Salisbury Poisonings: Weighed in the Balances and Found Wanting
    Neither Rob nor I have a sound theory of what really happened in Salisbury. There are many possible explanations, but none for which there is sufficient evidence. What we do know is that the British government lied and lies about the case from A to Z.
  • Last but not least a 20 minute video by Prolekult about the (geo-)politics of Brexit and the Skripal mess in Britain. Interestingly Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn seems to be pushing the 'blame Russia' racket just as much as the Conservatives. (Disclaimer - I do not endorse the views of the authors.):
    History is Marching | Part five: The Fall of the British Empire (vid)

Use as open thread ...

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I posted this comment at Off Guardian. There are a couple of points that may be of interest:

The essential feature of this “Integrity Initiative” is that it is purportedly a charity or an NGO. Like Atlantic Council, or Bellingcat, it is funded by government(s) but it has, as this video demonstrates, the capacity to distance itself from government, Deniability.
Deniability is the central feature of all British regime change operations since 1945. The UK takes (took?) the UN Charter and Nuremberg seriously. Not in the sense that it follows the rules but in so far as it tries not to get caught waging aggressive wars and interfering in sovereign states by carrying out regime change operations.
Britain has become very good not just at keeping its secret operations secret and deniable. But , through its controls over the media, stopping leaks by ensuring that whistle blowers are not heard.
What this case indicates is that people like Donnelly, contemptible careerists playing games with humanity’s very existence, have prevailed over the more cautious and sensible Civil Servants in the Foreign Office, who used to keep a lid on the irrespresible folliy of psychopaths like Christopher Nigel, and have been given license not only to kill but to do so without reference to ‘M’ and Whitehall.
In this case, thanks to the weakness and demoralised state of the current government what has happened is that Donnelly has improved on the rolling regime change operation against Russia, (consisting of taking advantage of opportunities to castigate the Kremlin and blaming Putin for everything that goes wrong, every Russian expatriate’s death, every botched poison gas gambit by the White Helmets (another one of these NGOs run by ‘retired MI types),).. improved on it to the extent that, now, rather than waiting to comment on, and build frames around such events as Litvinenko’s death, they are constructing them out of whole cloth.
The key word here is bricolage, as used by Levi Strauss to describe one of the characteristic reactions of traditional societies to the irruption of western imperialism.
Donnelly, his acolytes and his dupes in the media are taking whatever they find lying around in the world and twisting it together to form apparent events. The White Helmets, for example, attempt a chlorine gas attack on Syrian forces. It fails but rather than deny that it ever happened British Intelligence convinces the media that, in fact the attack was not by the Jihadists but upon them. The media dutifully takes its cues, from the clusters and, almost before you know it, the US is bombing Damascus on the ground that Assad is carrying out poison gas attacks.
The MH17 affair is another instance: an airliner gets shot down, whether deliberately or not doesn’t matter, and Russia is blamed. All manner of phony ‘evidence’ is publicised. The real evidence such as Air Traffic Control records is suppressed. Sanctions are imposed. Russia further isolated etc. Then we had the DNC emails, again, a leak probably by a decent person disgruntled by the utter cynicism and criminality of the DNC’s tactics in the primary elections. Twisted into something resembling a Russian conspiracy against Clinton. Not one that anyone with enough brain to tie his shoelaces would credit but just enough to set the media lynch mobs, led by their clusters, into operation.
All of which leads inexorably to Salisbury and the Skripals.

And here perhaps there is more than bricolage: rather than picking up what providence has delivered and making a passably plausible story of it, here, one suspects, the matter was put together in advance. This wasn’t an accident blamed on Putin but a planned semi-assassination in which at least one of the victims was unaware of the plan… designed from the beginning to be used in the rolling anti-Putin regime change operation..
Which, and this is something that the old FO mandarins knew would happen if policy were left in the hands of Donnelly and Co, (straight out of schoolboy comics like Magnet or Hotspur), has proved to be exactly what Russia needed: a series of kicks at the Kremlin which drove it into the arms of Beijing and forced it to form an iron alliance which will lead not to regime change in Moscow but to the destruction of the Atlantic empire.

Posted by: bevin | Jan 9 2019 18:19 utc | 1

Israeli opposition politician secretly visits Abu Dhabi, meets top Emirati officials: Report

Another arab state selling out palestinians for Israel.

Posted by: Zanon | Jan 9 2019 18:20 utc | 2

Just would like to point out a small, interesting parallel between these Integrity Initiative documents and some of the mainstream academic literature in the US about democracy, namely the use of the phrase "malign influence" to describe the influence of Russia (and China). If one reads the latest issue of the Journal of Democracy (which names the NED as a partner or some such) or the latest Freedom House report, one will find the academic version of the language used by mainstream journalism, warning of the threat that Russia and China pose to the Western liberal democratic way of life.

Posted by: George Lane | Jan 9 2019 18:30 utc | 3

G'day Bernard
I have been a longtime reader of your page . And appreciate your 'form'. Many times I have nearly commented but didn't for various reasons like not making the time (I am just a metal roofer spends my days on tools ) . Or poor connections in Aus country towns etc. But will make a point of contribute more this year as you nearly the last early free-range blog left . I enjoy your regular commenters too . With much quite appreciation . I wish you best of fortune this year and in future.
Kind regards mick.mclennan

Posted by: Mick Mclennan | Jan 9 2019 18:31 utc | 4

Out of sudden the exchange rate between the Euro and the Turkish Lira got dynamic. The last weeks it was stagnant at circa 1:5,98-6,04, now it is at 1:6,3. Anybody here to explain how such a thing is done?

Posted by: hausmeister | Jan 9 2019 19:19 utc | 5

thanks b.. i will look at some of these links and data... thanks also @1 bevin for your overview on all this...

2 things....

1 -why is the media such a willing accomplice in all of this??

2- why is jeremy corbyn pushing the russia done it theme as much as the others??

for my 2nd question i can see some rationale for keeping his head down until he is elected.. that makes sense..

Posted by: james | Jan 9 2019 20:11 utc | 6

@hausmeister, clearly there is a huge speculation on going against several currencies, no doubt turkish Lira and Argentinian Pesos are the two critical ones, but the only ones. The devaluation you just pointed out though, was more related to the EU strengthening against the USD, which made it stronger vs TL, roughly the EU increased in value by 4 US cents in 1 week.
We will see in 2019 a huge currency war all over, it will rough and ugly.

Posted by: Canthama | Jan 9 2019 20:12 utc | 7

@ Hausmeister who asked why the exchange rate for the Turkish Lira seems to be getting jacked around

The short answer is that the Bureau of International Settlements (BIS) is a PRIVATE organization that handles almost all currency exchange and can you believe that it might be manipulated for geo-political reasons?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jan 9 2019 20:13 utc | 8

re currency exchange... nothing looks unusual to me.. take a closer look at the 1 week, 1 month and 1 year chart.. trend is consistent.

here is the one month chart euro to lira.

Posted by: james | Jan 9 2019 20:23 utc | 9

True. But in the last 3 days I see a speeding up effort. Underlying internal reasons are most likely the more important causes, accepted. The huge brain drain and the demolition of the education sector comes on top. A country where people are jailed for a simple opinion peace if not just by anonymous denunciation is no fun.

Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 9 2019 20:38 utc | 10

George lane 3
Noticed last week that the U S arms industry funded 'The Strategist ' ( published in Australia to present the Anglo- U S agenda ) has begun to refer to the ' AGGRESSIVE rise of China' . This is an intensification of the anti- Chinese stance taken here by some !This was the first time I have seen 'aggressive 'placed before the now proverbial ' rise of China ' epithet . The future for Australia will be problematic if she cannot develop views and policies independant from the U S system !

Posted by: ashley albanese | Jan 9 2019 20:45 utc | 11

@10 Hausmeister... do you have a particular angle to pursue? i noticed your comment to brad smith on the last thread was rather ambigious too and actually asked for clarification, if you'd like to offer some.. do you live in turkey or closely connected to it in some way? is that it?

Posted by: james | Jan 9 2019 20:56 utc | 12

I do not take that wrong! ;-) But please exchange such things with the creator of this blog. Said country is a minefield. There are European countries where some people should avoid to visit any public event that may be seen as Anti-Erdogan and better do not park their car close to that space. Denunciation is a national sport for certain circles of that country and the German government, for example, helps these people instead of protecting the own citizens.

Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 9 2019 21:06 utc | 13

@13 hausmeister.. thanks for your answer, as unhelpful as it is!!

i just read the article by Kim Zettler, Politico at the top... wow... i was thinking of the parallels with huawei and how the usa can easily run a similar operation on them, claiming no one can do biz with them for security reasons, while providing no proof of any wrong doing.. this seems to be the approach of gov'ts that want to control everything - usa in this case...\

on a related note - the uk with the integrity initiative is doing the very same thing.. tarring and feathering anything to do with russia, while having no proof on any of it.. it seems the usa and the uk share a lot in common at this point and it sure isn't anything to do with democracy or transparency... read craig murrays latest for another fine example.. what is with the usa and uk today? are they being run fully by the intel agencies at this point? looks like it.. that is unfortunate... what do you call a country that is run fully by intel agencies??

Posted by: james | Jan 9 2019 21:12 utc | 14

There are at least 2 interesting items circulating around related to Brasil and SA neuvo bilderburgeresque empirialism at Voltaire and RT
but this one rational cryicifal comparative SHTF piece is by far the best for snowy weather!

Posted by: slit | Jan 9 2019 21:21 utc | 15

Tomorrow the Venezuelan President Marduro is scheduled to be sworn in for a new term. In response, the so-called Lima Group of regional antagonists has called for a regime-change in that country. After complaining that last May's vote lacked "legitimacy" - largely because the opposition was encouraged by the Lima Group itself to boycott the election and international observers were pressured to stay away - the Group demands that President Marduro "transfer executive powers to the National Assembly until new democratic elections are held." i.e. Marduro must go! In the last twenty years, Venezuela's Bolivarian government has done nothing but win almost all the elections held, consistently supported as transparent and fair by international observers. Throughout those years, ideological opponents have branded the government as a "dictatorship" and "undemocratic". The current refusal to accept Marduro's new term, the branding of the government as "illegitimate", and the demand for a new electoral process within the country to be controlled solely by the opposition in defiance of the will of the people, signals that the regime-change scheme will become very serious over the next months.

This is the Lima Group's statement, as released by the Canadian government. In recent years, Canada has supported the overthrow of democratically elected governments in Haiti, Honduras, and Ukraine.

Posted by: jayc | Jan 9 2019 21:23 utc | 16

@1...a very interesting post Bevin...thanks

Posted by: Ross Stanford | Jan 9 2019 21:26 utc | 17

Slit gets hyperloquacionlista award of the day

Posted by: Stumpy | Jan 9 2019 21:28 utc | 18

James...medialens write very well on why and how journalists is the msm do what they do. I believe this continues to be the biggest threat to us. If more people knew the truth...

As for Corbyn...he wouldn't be in the position he is if he hadn't agreed to play by their rules. He would have been got rid of in one way or another by now. Remember, all members of the privvy Council must swear their allegiance to the Crown.

Posted by: Ross Stanford | Jan 9 2019 21:33 utc | 19

james | Jan 9, 2019 4:12:38 PM | 14
Sorry for that.
I would call them a country run fully by intel agencies. I made a game today. Google research results are personalized. I asked several friends to search Google for „Integrity Iniative“. All the screenshots showed the same. One sputnik-Link, one to Nachdenkseiten, the rest interntional. Not one single main stream medium was mentioned. Since November! There has been even a debate in the British parliament. If this is no top-down organized consulting machine what is such a machine then?

Posted by: Hausmeister | Jan 9 2019 21:38 utc | 20

@19 russ.. thanks.. here is a link to their site..

i think with corbyn, if i lived in the uk, i would be voting for him for the simple reason the establishment seem to hate him.

@20 hausmeister... no problem! yes - it is as b notes up above - the msm are not touching this story, which tells one all they really need to know.. i think this story is not going away however, so it will be interesting to see how they try to keep the lid on it..

Posted by: james | Jan 9 2019 21:49 utc | 21

The media have become such willing accomplices because their business model has failed. Some have been bought out. The rest depend on subsidies from governments and/or rich donors.

Posted by: lysias | Jan 9 2019 21:50 utc | 22

D notice in UK?

Posted by: lysias | Jan 9 2019 21:52 utc | 23

Lysias @22 + 23

Yes, a D notice. Pablo Miller was getting lonely out there all by himself. He would dearly love to walk the the Salisbury streets and lanes but.... Russians!

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Jan 9 2019 21:59 utc | 24

@1 bevin, I rarely post here, because the quality is so high, and there is little much I can contribute, but I thought you were one of the best writers ever to contribute to Craig Murray's website, which I also still respect, as I know you do. Craig Murray banned you over one single issue, and I remember the detail. Several of us, who respected what you wrote - asked how can can you ban bevin? He is the best writer here. After 6 months, Craig posted, bevin can now post here again. I mean wtf?

Seems I have now joined the banned club too. Is that a feather in my cap?

What did I say? Are they all CIA???


Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Jan 9 2019 22:00 utc | 25

There has been a vote on the Very First Senate bill of 2019 - S.1 - Strengthening America's Security in the Middle East Act of 2019

I voted against Joe Donnelly because he was an actual sponsor of this kind of crap. Well guess what? My NEW senator is another "Israel Firster".

Mike Braun YEA, Todd Young, YEA

What really gripes me is how Todd Young, a graduate of the Naval Academy, clearly doesn't give a damn about what happened to the USS Liberty. He's totally in bed with the apartheid Jewish state.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Jan 9 2019 22:05 utc | 26


Don't worry, I have you covered... Swedish Activists For Peace compile links on II from 36 separate countries (including Moon of Alabama)

"Here you find an overview of the content in our list of Integrity Initiative links from 36 countries and some Atlantic Council links. The list is compiled by Activist for peace, Sweden, January 5, 2019 and it contains four parts. Each part is linked from this blogpost. You find that the headings below are clickable."

Posted by: Blooming Barricade | Jan 9 2019 22:08 utc | 27

Tony...can u give some more details on Bevin and/or your bans. I currently hold Craig in high regard but am always on guard.

Posted by: Ross Stanford | Jan 9 2019 22:12 utc | 28

The Guardian now has an obituary on the Integrity Initiative. They seem to have decided that they cannot silence the case.

Posted by: somebody | Jan 9 2019 22:16 utc | 29

i got banned from craig murrays site as well... such is life! it seems like a small group of posters that are allowed to continue to post at cm's site..

and, on a related note - you never know who you are talking to on the internet.. it could literally be anyone, including someone working for an intel agency... this is the way it is in 2019... one has to be open to having your comments deciphered by ordinary people - who i claim to me, lol - or by intel agencies.. i suppose this is why i can appreciate some posters not wanting to reveal what country they live in!

Posted by: james | Jan 9 2019 22:21 utc | 30

@26 Ross Stanford. I had been posting on Craig Murray's website for nearly 10 years since I read his book Murder in Samarkand, and very nearly turned up at the House of Commons as a witness - but he asked can anyone record this - which I did. I have never actually met him. bevin posted for maybe a couple of years a couple of years ago. bevin wrote about The French political situation, before it kicked off. He is a very clever man, and to delete someone so intelligent who was almost literally predicting what was likely to happen with yellow vests etc, seems a little bit both arrogant and immature in my my view. However all of us regardless of our political views accept the Craig Murray is a Man of Great Integrity and Courage, even though on a lot of political issues I disagree with him. Surely thats O.K. disagreeing about politics?

"Craig Murray - Torture 1 of 7"


Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Jan 9 2019 22:48 utc | 31

@30 The basic line seems to be that the West is vulnerable to Russian attacks because we have a free press. So why did it take the free press such a long time to come up with a response?

James Ball does admit that a secretive organization using government funding to slander Jeremy Corbyn might not have been a great idea.

Posted by: dh | Jan 9 2019 22:59 utc | 32

Posted this over at Mark Chapman's The New Kremlin Stooge blog:

The latest news from Salisbury: first, the park bench and the dining table walked the Path of Fire, then the guinea pigs and a cat followed, a house may soon do so as well, and the latest perhaps to join the queue …
“Amesbury ambulance station may never reopen after nerve agent attack”

… and then at some point in the future …
“Revised plan to redevelop Salisbury’s Maltings unveiled”
“Salisbury’s shopping centre to be given £69million makeover and major rebrand after infamous Novichok poisonings”

Several comments attached to that post are of “wish we had Novichok in our shopping centre” or “they planned this all along” type. It seems that Salisbury shopping centre as it is has not been doing well because of high rents previously imposed by Wiltshire Council and it desperately needs a makeover. Call me cynical but maybe Wiltshire Council is using the poisoning incident to bring forward its redevelopment plans for the Salisbury shopping centre that will all but kill off local businesses.

Posted by: Jen | Jan 9 2019 23:12 utc | 33

@30 somebody... your link is yet another reason why i never read the guardian... they have to put some arsenic in with everything!

"When a Russian-backed militia group shot down the Malaysia Airlines passenger plane MH17, killing 298 people, its media offered numerous different – and contradictory – explanations." bullshit continues, and it is what i have come to expect from the guardian..

"Russia is the master of blurring the boundaries between the state, the media and outriders." is he saying the UK and USA aren't in the running? lol..

Posted by: james | Jan 9 2019 23:16 utc | 34

The irony is that, with a genuinely free press, RT would cease to have any appeal. The corporate media is hopelessly biased against Jeremy Corbyn and Bernie Sanders, as well as pro-war, opposed to anarchism, openly pro-capitalism, and fails to report on issues like fracking, oligarchic trade deals Palestinian struggles, police state brutality against left, and almost every other topic the public would want to know about. Projects like PropOrNot and the Intgerity Initiative exist solely to prevent the public from knowing about those things by locking down the information sphere against independent media (today they claimed that "neoliberalism" and "neoconservatism" aren't real concepts but Russian-invented insults against the rules-based liberal world order.

Posted by: Blooming Barricade | Jan 9 2019 23:17 utc | 35

George Galloway weighs in on the chaos engulfing the Empire in Washington, London and Paris. The Neoliberal ship is foundering while the uplifting of people-based policies of Russia and China keep them on track to reach their aims. Soon, if Trump keeps the government shutdown, those idled federal workers just might be seen in the streets. George has a penchant for connecting things, and had this to say about Macron:

"The very conditions Macron strove so very hard to bring about in Damascus and that France DID help bring about in Kiev are now rocking the very foundations of the French Republic."

The false flag of Austerity--Neoliberalism preying on its own as was predicted at its beginnings is what we're witnessing, while the actors that created the situation cling with bloody hands to the ship of state unwilling to surrender the wheel to those who might salvage the situation. Metaphorically, Rome burns while Nero and his Senators fiddle.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 9 2019 23:35 utc | 36

The Guardian has produced an article about Integrity Initiative. It was so poorly written that they had to close the comment section after 138 comments. People do know a lot more than the Guardian thinks.

Posted by: Peter Schmidt | Jan 9 2019 23:50 utc | 37

the guardian never keeps comment sections open long if too many posters start disagreeing with their preferred line. their other tactic is simply never to open comments on posts where they think this is likely to happen. and of course they haven't even acknowledged the luke harding travesty, as they continue to beg for donations to support their fearless independent journalism.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 9 2019 23:57 utc | 38

I thought James Ball made a gallant effort to exonerate Western media considering he probably had a team of editors breathing down his neck. It's the lack of transparency that seems to upset him most.

Perhaps his next article will be an in depth look at how Integrity Initiative got government funding.

Posted by: dh | Jan 10 2019 0:15 utc | 39

Thanks to Patrick Wood for enlightening me and allowing me to connect the dots. There is a method to the madness you see, much of it to distract you and condition you for changes to come. His 2 books are must reads.
Technocracy Rising: The Trojan Horse of Global Transformation and Technocracy: Hard Road to a World Order

The Global Elites want to move on to a New New World Order. Thats what all the chaos has been about this century, and why they chose ultimate Discordian to be President of the US. In the meantime Democracy, Nationalism, Capitalism , Central Banks and USD hegemony are being attacked and have been since 2001. Trumps role is to condition people to welcome change. China and their BRICS have been promoted as ideals although as I mentioned that ideal is TechnoFascism.

And of course the Fake Science behind Climate Terror is central to getting people behind the change, along with Financial Terror (debt) already being exercised

The transition from present world order to the future world order will include the following

1. Physical cash is the only financial instrument today for those who are not part of the banking system in the first place. It is estimated that 2 billion adults, or 35 percent of the total, are “unbanked” around the world. This is unacceptable to Technocrats

Most countries are in one stage or another in removing cash altogether. In China, as much as 95% of all consumer transactions are cashless. In India, all large denomination bills have been removed from circulation, as is also the case in the United States where the $ 100 bill is the largest denomination. “No cash accepted” signs have popped up all over Europe. Airlines have gone cashless for inflight purchases. Many restaurants in America have cashless signs in the window, forcing consumers to pay electronically.

In a cashless society, Information replaces cash. Wherever information is collected and flows, it may be used for censorship and surveillance. Thats the future.

2. On 11/9/09. the Telegraph (UK) presented an article: “Everyone in Britain could be given a personal ‘carbon allowance’” that suggested, Implementing individual carbon allowances for every person will be the most effective way of meeting the targets for cutting greenhouse gas emissions. It would involve people being issued with a unique number which they would hand over when purchasing products that contribute to their carbon footprint, such as fuel, airline tickets and electricity.

If their “carbon account” hits zero, they would have to pay to get more credits. No problem for the rich

In 2010 Technocracy, Inc. offered an idea of an Energy Distribution Card :

It is now possible to use a plastic card similar to today’s credit card embedded with a microchip. This chip could contain all the information needed to create an energy distribution card .....The card would also serve as a universal identity card and contain a microchip. This reflects Technocracy’s philosophy that each person in society must be meticulously monitored and accounted for in order to track what they consume in terms of energy and also what they contribute to the manufacturing process.

3. Anyone wondering about the push for the health hazard known as 5G? Lots of data requires enough bandwidth for surveillance and the IoT for control and data collection. The Internet of Everything will connect everything into a single database . To all of the things mentioned above, add smart phones, laptop computers, routers, credit or debit card readers, store transactions, items tagged with RFID chips, and so on. This will be fully rolled out to America and some other countries by the end of 2019-2020. It will allow any physical device to be data-integrated at speeds approaching that of fiber optic. 5G is 23 times faster than 4G technology, approaching 50 gigabytes per second.

4. Human tracking devices, provide the potential for real-time control that extends far beyond privacy and surveillance, per se. Geoslavery looms as a real, threat. Don’t have permission to travel outside your own mega city, auto- tracking will issue you a ticket.

Summary- 5G, ioT , digital currencies (cashless society) Smart Grid/Smart Meters will allow tracking and control of each persons consumption and purchases. If you exceed your carbon allowance you could be denied purchase of steak (or pay more for it). Your thermostat can be reset from a remote location higher or lower to preserve energy. Your car may be prevented from driving beyond a certain speed or without multiple passengers, your power may be cut entirely, Etc

Technocracies leader is China. A testing ground of the Global Elite for Communism and now Technocratic Fascism. In December 2017, China had installed 176 million surveillance cameras nationwide. By July 2018, there were 200 million installed. The trajectory is to have 626 million installed by 2020. China’s entire surveillance network is connected to a series of specially-designed facial recognition computers equipped with advanced AI software that can identify and locate any citizen within minutes of issuing the command.

On top of the physical surveillance network is an Orwellian system of Social Credit Scoring (SCS) . SCS requires massive data collection on every citizen in China, including all financial transaction, events attended, social interactions, friendships and data-mining of social media activities. Much of this data is collected in conjunction with the surveillance network. As AI computers analyze this growing mountain of “big data”, a Social Credit Score is calculated and assigned to each citizen. The score can go up or down whenever a different calculation is received.

Some things that might affect a citizen’s score include: Do you pay your debts on time? Are your personal finances in line with your occupation? Have you received tickets for things like jaywalking? Have you criticized or praised the government? Are you a Christian, Muslim or atheist? Do you hang out with others who have a low SCS? Are you community-oriented or individualistic? Do you do things out of your ordinary observed behavior?

If you are a model citizen in China, your score might approach the maximum level of 700. If the computer decides that you are a troublemaker, you might be lucky to receive a score of 200.

High SCS holders will have travel freedoms, will attend better schools and get better jobs. Low SCS holders will not be allowed to have travel passes, live in better housing, get into better schools and will be left with less desirable work conditions. This system has already been switched on in China and will approach 100 percent efficiency and penetration of the population by 2020.

This means that every individual can be forced to comply with government expectations, or else. This is Scientific Dictatorship, pure and simple. Coming soon to your neighborhood.

So thats the future. A New World Order modeled after China. The US will be broken up and living standards in the West reduced, while the Global elite live happily ever after in their Technocratic Utopia.

Population will decline through various measures until the Golden Billion target espoused by Bill Gates is reached

Transhumanism, the religion that binds the Technocratic Global Elite will allow them to transcend Human 1.0 and evolve to the God-like Super Human 2.0

Posted by: Pft | Jan 10 2019 0:24 utc | 40

bevin @1--

You provide the details related to the efforts made by those unwilling to surrender the wheel, and you do it quite well. It appears that the Deep State's become Pink, having erected a Wall to protect it from the reality it creates and the masses it preys upon. What's happening in France and UK are the masses demanding the Wall be torn down. The remainder of the EU are all at differing stages of this social ferment as is the USA. Or is the story of The Wall too complex to be used as a political analogy; the history of The Wall--Live in Berlin concert would make it appear so--but how did the public perceive what appeared to be an actual instead of a metaphorical destruction of The Wall? What would Roger Waters say given his current political activism? Obviously, for me The Wall carries great symbolic power--if--you know the story. Unfortunately, for all too many, the story isn't at all what it seems.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2019 0:36 utc | 41

@38 Peter Schmidt.. that article was so bad, it came across as another hit piece on russia! and the dude complained about his name being on the list when all he did was a workshop with the lack of integrity people for 225 pounds... what a hack for the empire the due is... instead of writing something with content, all of it was devoid of content! at his rate of pay, b ought to receive at least 1000x whatever it is..

Posted by: james | Jan 10 2019 0:43 utc | 42

gotta get those shill points for fossil fuel in pfft, and somehow link the science with neoliberalism. you continue to assert, without any evidence, that the science is fake. you just wrap the propaganda up with some other actual good points about the push to a cashless society and such, while implying that fossil fuel giants aren't part of the elite.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 10 2019 1:03 utc | 43

Humerous wit:

"Jeff Bezos is getting divorced after realizing that marriage counts as a union."

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2019 1:17 utc | 44

The Prolekult video makes the false claim that the result of the Brexit referendum was somehow forced by the 'British Bourgeoisie'.

In fact, almost the whole of the British ruling class instructed the population to vote Remain: The leaderships of all three main parties, 75-80% of MPs, the House of Lords, the capitalists as represented by the CBI, the Bank of England and the financiers of the City, all four 'serious' newspapers, the BBC, academia, "lovie" celebrities, with international backing from the IMF, World Bank, the EU itself (naturally) and even President Obama interfering in another nation's democracy by threatening Britain if it disobeyed orders.

Boris Johnson turned his cloak from his long-held pro-EU stance purely as a career move hoping to become PM, as did Jeremy Corbyn, who saw that his long-held Bennite left-Euro Scepticism was a barrier to his ambition to be PM as leader of the overwhlemingly pro-EU Labour Party. Of course he has no chance of implementing any radiacal leftist policies within the EU when the elected government of Italy is not even allowed to pass a Keynsian budget.

So it's no surprise, sadly, that Corbyn caved in to the Russophobia and came out with the guff on the Skripal affair. Besides, if he didn't he'd probably be dead at some point. Unless there is a genuinely anti-imperialist party as a power base, a lone leader has no chance against the permanent government. See also the US.

Posted by: Ash (London) | Jan 10 2019 1:39 utc | 45

From Wall Street Journal:
Trump Considers Cancelling Davos Trip if Shutdown Continues

Trump State of Emergency Likely After Wall Shutdown Deadlock

Guess Trump really wants to spend time with his fellow elites! Imposing an "Enabling Act" to pay for the wall, all so he can wine and dine with global billionaires and oligarchs. The rednecks who voted for him must be so glad!

The socialist and left-wing protestors against the WEF in Davis released a communique -

"Creating a global architecture, considering the 4th Industrial Revolution." Under this motto, once again the so-called leaders from politics and economics meet in Davos to tackle the problems of the world. But we know that they can not, because their high-built house of cards slowly collapses in itself. And so the world savior image of the forum seems to crumble slowly.

Structural changes in terms of technical progress, cybersecurity, human capital and even environmental protection should be discussed. Strengthening international relations and cooperation should be the foundation enough to realize all this. And if the ladies and gentlemen at the WEF are already there, they also want to talk about peace and reconciliation, because that, too, should make it possible to strengthen international relations. With whom exactly you discussed there seems negligible. Because the invited and participating persons represent the states that are making war, that are creating global problems and that the companies profit from it.

Authoritarian, conservative and fascist parties are strengthening worldwide. They move into parliaments and form governments. In Italy, the 5-star movement, along with the fascist Lega Nord, won the election and now heads the government. In Austria, the FPÖ, which was founded from a merger of National Socialists after the Second World War, governs together with the ÖVP. At the EU summit in Salzburg they demanded that the border protection agency Frontex be increased from 1'600 to 10'000 persons. Both in Poland and in Hungary, national-conservative parties, together with right-wing populists, form the majority in parliaments, which has an extreme impact on the situation of minorities in these countries. In Turkey, under the leadership of President Erdogan, the military is waging a terrible war against the Kurdish population and left-wing opposition, and is not in the least sorry to be working with ISIS terrorists. Donald Trump is still in power in the United States and Brazil is now ruled by a man who publicly discriminates against women, homosexuals and other minorities. In the Philippines, Duterte is currently in power, publicly calling for the murder of drug addicts and criminals. Sadly, the list of fascist and right-wing politicians and parties in the upswing is even longer. But from all these countries, heads of government, foreign ministers or representatives will take part in the forum in Davos. And they will not see the WEF as a way to discuss peace and reconciliation, but will take the opportunity to push through their own interests.

But there are far more than just the governments that will take part in the forum in Davos. From all over the world, representatives of huge corporations stream to the WEF. Among them are representatives of big banks such as UBS, Credit Suisse or HSBC, all banks involved in controversial projects such as the Dakota Access Pipeline or investing in the defense industry. Other WEF partners such as ABB also promote the production of weapons and war technology. They all connect the business to the war. It does not matter to whom you sell the weapons or what is done with it. The main thing is that the conflicts continue and deliveries increase. No account is taken of the suffering of the local population in the war regions. Also, representatives of BlackRock, Nestlé, Glencore and Monsanto will travel to Davos, companies that are significantly responsible for impoverishment or land grabs in third world countries and monopoly and ransom contracts thousands of farmers from the livelihood.

The endless greed for profit and power that meets at the Forum in Davos, there are hardly any limits. Whether national, authoritarian or liberal business here does not matter at all. The rulers in Davos are concerned with increasing their capital. But they will not succeed forever. Everywhere in the world there is strong resistance to this policy. Be it at the G20 summits in Hamburg or Buenos Aires, in Brazil in protests against the new president, in France during the uprising of the yellow vests or in Rojava where the revolution and a community of solidarity is actively practiced. Capitalism shows again and again disintegration phenomena. In Switzerland, however, he continues to find a quiet hinterland in Davos to strengthen himself.

Let's not let this pass away! Let's take the road to make our protest out loud! Let the rulers feel our anger! No quiet hinterland for Nazis and capitalists! Let's bring the house of cards to collapse! End Wef, End Capitalism! For the social revolution!

Posted by: No WEF 2019 | Jan 10 2019 2:09 utc | 46

WEF stands for World Economic Forum, and I see nothing wrong with the WEF agenda here.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 10 2019 2:57 utc | 47

Petraeus gives us an update on what U.S. Defense has been up to in Europe.

Russia successfully ‘breathed new life’ into NATO by giving it a reason to boost military expansion into Eastern Europe and strengthen the US foothold on the continent, ex-CIA boss, retired four-star general David Petraeus said.

Russia singlehandedly gave the American-led military bloc “a new reason for living,” the former general told the audience at an international conference in New Delhi, India on Wednesday.

Petraeus stressed that Moscow prompted the alliance to deploy more troops and aircraft into Eastern Europe and the Baltic States as well as set up new command HQs in the region.
It was done under the pretext of fighting ‘Russian aggression’ as relations between NATO and Moscow steadily deteriorated during the presidency of Vladimir Putin. In that sense, Putin is “the greatest gift” NATO has received since the conclusion of the Cold War, the American general said.

He also ‘credited’ the Russian leader for providing the US with the rationale to return an armored brigade to Europe “for the first time in a number of years.” It is currently stationed in Poland.

Petraeus Putin gift for Nato

Posted by: Circe | Jan 10 2019 2:59 utc | 48

@ Circe | Jan 9, 2019 9:59:35 PM | 49
General Petraeus is a crooked unreliable opportunist, so why should we listen to him? One would expect such a failure to hype the non-existent "Russia threat." And stupidly speaking in India, which has decided (against US demands) to buy Russia's S-400 ABM system.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 10 2019 3:06 utc | 49

@Pft - Just finished a couple of interesting books called “Technocracy Rising: The Trojan Horse of Global Transformation” by Patrick H. Wood and “Transhumanism” by David Livingstone.
Thank you for the detailed review of the books. I caught #43 and #125 on the previous thread, plus this #41. If I missed a post, would you point it out?

Posted by: mrd | Jan 10 2019 3:22 utc | 50

@Pft | Jan 9, 2019 7:24:57 PM | 41
So it's a A New World Order modeled after China, where the government owns corporations, opposite from the western model. I don't expect such a change any time soon.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 10 2019 3:36 utc | 51

@49 petraeus is as reliable as bolton, which is to say, not at all.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 10 2019 3:50 utc | 52

@30 DB

India is just another Empire vassal. If Putin were to kick India out of BRICS and replace it with Iran, he wouldn't need to change an initial and would have a loyal ally instead.

Posted by: Circe | Jan 10 2019 3:51 utc | 53

@ Circe
India is just another Empire vassal.
Are you claiming that India is a US vassal, subordinate to the US?

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 10 2019 4:19 utc | 54

A New Narrative Control Firm Works To Destroy Alternative Media caitlin johstones latest... about a company called NewsGuard, caitlin is getting some of this from mintpress.. it is an interesting read..

i think the advent of the internet and availability of info at our fingertips was going to lead to all sorts of playing with the info, or suppressing the info.. it is one big mess of info and being able to sort thru it is impossible... info overload... it is probably similar to if you cranked the volume up as possible on your stereo system that your mind went numb - that is what it seems like some forces in the world today are trying to do... this newsguard group sound like a group of complete whackjobs looking for work in all the wrong, or right places... no doubt the military and intel folks will be all over this kind of shit.. it is right up their outhouse.. for all i know, it's another creation from integrity initiative, or cambridge analytica... intel agencies paying cyber people to cook up more arsenic for the masses.. i guess this is what we can expect here forward..

Posted by: james | Jan 10 2019 5:43 utc | 55

james: "petraeus gift for military industrial complex".. the fact any paper would print his garbage tells you all you need to know.. the paper is working for the same cause..

Posted by: james | Jan 10 2019 5:46 utc | 56

heh heh! it looks like it was rt, lol...

Posted by: james | Jan 10 2019 5:46 utc | 57

Bevin, ref II
Not bricolage. This is very big now in trending universities. They open 'labs' where insiders work rather as head hunters and try to convince bright students that the future lies in establishing NGOs. I am tempted to see that the reason why they do that is just to build networks and projects on the model of II.

Posted by: Mina | Jan 10 2019 9:11 utc | 58

Bibi's answer to Putin came today in MSM: Shin bet accuses Russia of planning to meld in the coming April elections.

Posted by: Mina | Jan 10 2019 9:18 utc | 59

@ Posted by: Pft | Jan 9, 2019 7:24:57 PM | 41

If think you're confused: technocracy is not the implementation of technology to control population, but the belief that the Western Democratic system (i.e. representative democracy) can be apolitical and thus much more efficient if the elected major office (e.g. mayor, governor or president) puts only a team of "scientists" and "experts" to administer each department. It is meritocracy on steroids: the rule of the notables.

Of course that the notion that the people is dumb and should always be governed by an educated elite is not new: that was all Ancient Greece and then the Roman Republic were all about. A Greek scholar (whose name I don't remember now), on reflecting why the Romans "did it" (i.e. achieved unification, while the Greeks were plagued by tyrannies, revolutions, revolts and couter-revolutions), he concluded Rome's system was the best precisely because it was a perfect mix of democracy, oligarchy and monarchy.

The fact he "wasn't born to rule" (in opposition to the Ivy League POTUSes) is now being frequently used by the coastal middle and upper middle classes to advocate for Trump's impeachment. That's a pure technocratic argument.


A while ago, I posted about South Korea's impending doom. Long story short, I defended the "thesis" South Korea was just a Cold War propaganda outdoor, a figment of Nippo-American imagination. It is destined to fail.

The South Korean elite (being essentially Japanese straps, many of them raised with Japanese culture and with Japanese as a second or third language, if not raised straight up in Japanese schools and colleges) probably knows that, and it's not a secret their dream scenario would be a decapitation operation, where a group of elite South Korean special forces would enter North Korean territory and kill whoever the chairman is (today, it's Jong-un Kim). That way, totalitarian theory would state the North Korean people would be and feel "liberated", which would open a new Lebensraum for the South, with 25 million new consumers and very cheap workforce, to be exploited by the chaebols only.

That scenario was always a pipe dream for two main reasons: 1) if North Korea would be militarily conquered, it would be with the USA at the front, with South Korea as a sidekick; as a result, the new human resources would be exploited mainly by American multinationals, with the chaebols getting the crumbs, and 2) the Kim's are not THE North Korean state: killing them would not necessarily make its government collapse.

Now, after a good dosis of reality (i.e. nuclear ICBMs) and some good ol' capitalist economic secular stagnation, it seems the South Koreans got some enlightment:

Economic cooperation with North Korea will be blessing: Moon

Jae-in Moon stated:

"If we restart economic cooperation with North Korea, this will bring vitality to our economy [...] Inter-Korean economic projects are a blessing, which have already been prepared for us. One misunderstanding is South Korea is spending too much on economic projects with North Korea. But South Korean companies have benefitted more from operations at the Gaeseong Industrial Complex as it offered a chance for local companies to supply and sell their projects, there. [...] "When North Korea opens up its economy and a process to build relevant infrastructure starts, that will lead to intense competition among foreign capital to gain first-mover advantage. The resumption of inter-Korean economic projects, if it happens in a timely fashion, will put South Korea in a better position than others."

However, this initiative will fail, because there's a big "if":

"In order to resolve the issue of economic sanctions, North Korea should introduce concrete measures for the dismantlement of its nuclear program boldly and quickly. The lifting of economic sanctions is in sync with the level of the denuclearization process," Moon said.

The USA will never allow South Korea to peacefully reunify with the North; the South Korean chaebols don't want the North Korean workforce to be integrated peacefully (i.e. they want slaves). South Korea is between the rock and the hard place.

Posted by: vk | Jan 10 2019 11:41 utc | 60 cooperation with North Korea will be blessing: Moon

Posted by: vk | Jan 10 2019 11:47 utc | 62

Rating agency Fitch has thrown its hat on the government shutdown political arena:

US risks losing triple-A sovereign credit rating over shutdown, Fitch warns

Posted by: vk | Jan 10 2019 12:12 utc | 63

Something more fun than current geo-politics
Would've been good to have some open country like that. Friggin trees were a bit tighter to get through where I was.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Jan 10 2019 12:27 utc | 64

I like the pic b. All the kings men hiding under the tables while the bear looks in.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Jan 10 2019 13:13 utc | 65

I nearly puked while reading that Grain article. Scraping the barrel has become normal for them. And its the same barrel they are bent over. Somebody please just kick that prick in the teeth.

Posted by: dan | Jan 10 2019 13:30 utc | 66


Posted by: dan | Jan 10 2019 13:32 utc | 67

The Bezos divorce will create a new MEGA billionaire as due to Washington law, she gets half of the assets- just wait till People and other gossip rags start sucking up to Mrs, for now, Bezos.

Posted by: morongobill | Jan 10 2019 13:41 utc | 68

@Ash (London) | Jan 9, 2019 8:39:41 PM | 46

There are quite a few more or less contemporary examples of the 'sheeple', 'the brainwashed masses', 'the deplorables', continuing to maintain the capacity to 'go rogue' pertaining to their betters' 'imperative' political advise and entreaties.

As you note, there was in Britain quite a precious chorus of calls for the British people to reject Brexit.

Much the same process was to be observed a generation ago in Canada when the Constitutional changes given the dubious title of "The Charlottetown Accords" were presented to the Canadian people for approval.

Just about the entire political and media and 'elite' and academic 'communities', including the Canadian Labour Congress, strongly urged the Canadian people to endorse the Constitutional changes.

Recalcitrant were former Prime Minister Trudeau, (the Justin Apple did not fall close to the tree) and a few other notable figures, and in my opinion to their great credit about 54% or thereabouts of the Canadian people.

Now I have my perspective on the implications of those proposed Constitutional proposals: borrowing from a notable Canadian at the time, Eric Kierans, who called the proposals "a dog's breakfast", I would add say 'problematic'.

At any rate, there seems to be some considerable public immunity, at least in some countries, from sweeping political 'visions' that are strongly endorsed by their 'betters'.

Posted by: Robert Snefjella | Jan 10 2019 13:47 utc | 69

Hilarious that Russia gets attacked by Israel now about meddling, that really shows how naive Putin is by helping Israel. This is what he gets?

Posted by: Zanon | Jan 10 2019 13:58 utc | 70

As I have argued many times, more proof of that today:

Trump is willing to take military action again in Syria

Russian Diplomats Say Trump Administration Won’t Pull out of Syria

Posted by: Zanon | Jan 10 2019 14:19 utc | 71

Enlightenment at this link! Pepe Escobar again acts as facilitator by providing us with the gist of extremely important Chinese works that explain a great number of things. Here's just a small tidbit of this excellent meal for the mind:

"'From the point of view of Chinese intellectual and cultural traditions, Tingyang shows that since Christianity won over pagan Greek civilization, the West has been driven by a logic of combat. The world appears as a bellicose entity, with groups or tribes opposing one another. The (Western) 'mission of conquering the world destroyed the a priori integrity of the concept of "world". The world lost its sacred character to become a battlefield devoted to the universal accomplishment of Christianity. The word became an object.'

"So we came to a point where a hegemonic system of knowledge, via its mode of diffusion and monopoly of the rules of language, propagates a 'monotheist narrative on everything, societies, history, life, values'.

"This system 'interrupted knowledge and the historical thread of other cultures.' It dissolved other spiritual worlds into debris without meaning, so they would lose their integrity and sacredness. It debased 'the historicity of all other histories in the name of faith in progressivism (a secular version of monotheism).' And it divided the world into center and periphery; an 'evolved' world which has a history contraposed to a stagnated world deprived of history."

Within the article, Pepe provides this link to an absolutely essential paper by China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi. Why this raises the hackles of Imperialists is that it "hardly differs from other major strands of criticism of Western colonialism to be found all across the Global South," which makes it attractive and easy to adopt by the Global Periphery. What's worse for the West is that what moral capital it might have had no longer exists thanks to its past and ongoing predations, meaning the counter-arguments it raises will fall on deaf ears worldwide.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2019 14:47 utc | 72

@ karlof1 | Jan 10, 2019 9:47:17 AM | 72
..from the link
This is the China threat to the "rules-based international order" that scares the dickens out of Washington.

. . . We must stick to peaceful development, pursue China's development in the context of world development and forge ahead by actively engaging all countries for mutual benefit. We must work proactively to serve China's overall economic and social development by fostering enabling conditions for Chinese businesses to go global and by introducing foreign investment. Inspired by the vision of major-country diplomacy with Chinese features, we have worked with a pioneering and dauntless spirit and broken new ground in China's diplomacy and foreign relations. . .here

...from the Pentagon 2018 National Defense Strategy (NDS)
We are facing increased global disorder, characterized by decline in the long-standing rules-based international order—creating a security environment more complex and volatile than any we have experienced in recent memory. Inter-state strategic competition, not terrorism, is now the primary concern in U.S. national security. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 10 2019 15:30 utc | 73

The International Trade Union Confederation has released its end of year, 2018 report on global labor conditions. A separate ranking based on the report I discovered in this tweet that shows Russia at 54, USA at 84, and China at 105, with Finland #1.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2019 15:37 utc | 74

Good Morning Don Bacon @73--

I'd argue it's the USA that's the "revisionist power" since its founding document promotes the idea of prosperity for all--the general Welfare--and was the first nation to violate the post-WW2 "rules based international order" even before they were ratified by the Senate. IMO, the further the Outlaw US Empire tries to prevent BRI, the more attractive it becomes to other nations. And the spectacle currently being displayed to the world--read Pompeo's words uttered in Egypt--only serves to worsen the Empire's position as it becomes further ensnared by its own massive contradictions.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2019 16:01 utc | 75

Comic Relief for the day! I'm sure you'll want to share this one widely as it's quite good.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2019 16:07 utc | 76

@ karlof1 | Jan 10, 2019 11:01:43 AM | 75
read Pompeo's words uttered in Egypt
Pompeo, in his speech entitled "A Force for Good: America's Reinvigorated Role in the Middle East:"

The nations of the Middle East will never enjoy security, achieve economic stability, or advance the dreams of its peoples if Iran's revolutionary regime persists on its current course. . .here

The vast turmoil, death, destruction and human displacement wrought in the Middle East -- it's all Iran's fault!

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 10 2019 16:31 utc | 77

@ 77
Pompeo dumps on Iran as a "revolutionary regime," no doubt with regime change in mind. I guess he didn't read the literature.
The Durability of Revolutionary Regimes
-- Steven Levitsky, Lucan Way

Authoritarian regimes that have their origins in revolution boast a much higher survival rate than other brands of authoritarianism. What accounts for the durability of these revolutionary regimes (which the authors define—building on the work of Samuel Huntington and Theda Skocpol—as those which emerge out of sustained, ideological, and violent struggle from below, and whose establishment is accompanied by mass mobilization and significant efforts to transform state structures and the existing social order). Four variables emerge as decisive in explaining the durability of revolutionary regimes: The destruction of independent power centers, strong ruling parties, invulnerability to coups, and enhanced coercive capacity. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 10 2019 16:55 utc | 78

Karlof1 @76
Wittiest roasting I've heard in a long time. 'Colonization' is priceless.

Posted by: metni | Jan 10 2019 16:56 utc | 79

@ karlof1 #77

That was a fine little clip, and left me with a smile.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Jan 10 2019 18:22 utc | 80

A shocking story at the RT site:

Resignations rock US civil rights institute after it strips Angela Davis of award over pro-BDS views

A search found this:

Pressure to rescind the invitation came from non-Jewish sources as well, including former Birmingham-Southern College president Gen. Charles Krulak (retired), who served as deputy director of the White House Military Office during the Reagan Administration and later Commandant of the U.S. Marine Corps. He cited Davis’s former membership in the Communist Party and support for the Black Panthers.

It probably took a combination of big-money Zionists and Christian End-Timers to arrange this.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Jan 10 2019 18:47 utc | 81

@ Posted by: Tony_0pmoc | Jan 9, 2019 5:00:07 PM | 26

It is particularly interesting that Craig bans substantive/insightful commenters considering he lets the likes of "Charles Bostock" vomit endlessly on each and every comment thread.

Posted by: AshenLight | Jan 10 2019 18:48 utc | 82

@65 peter au.. that dude is one crazy mf... obviously he is a great pilot too!

@@77 karlof1... thanks for that!

Posted by: james | Jan 10 2019 18:50 utc | 83

pl's quick take on 911...."I know Muslims who thought after 9/11 that the US had been taught a lesson and would henceforth be humbled and passive. How many Muslims died for that mistake?" the thought that it was an inside job specifically designed to rain mayhem on the muslims still hasn't occurred to him... on his view on how the chinese see the usa - i would say he is bang on.. and whoever said they need to sink a few aircraft carriers with 10,000 us on board makes a lot of sense.. it is such a shame the usa can't figure this out before hand.. it's a tough job being the world cop! no one asked them to be!

Posted by: james | Jan 10 2019 18:57 utc | 84

Zachary Smith @82--

Those attacking Angela Davis ought to be deported to live in Zionistan since that's where their allegiance lies. Not too long ago, Alabama was one of the many states with laws discriminating against people of the Jewish faith. Sometimes irony smells sickening, like the rotting bodies of slaves or Palestinians hunted for sport.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2019 19:01 utc | 85

emptywheel folks got a little tongue tied over the politico link at the top of b's post by kim zettler... it is funny to watch, as they have to hold up a wee bit on hating everything russian.. i am sure it is just temporary.. hating russia and trump simultaneously is what they specialize in..

Posted by: james | Jan 10 2019 19:07 utc | 86

@77 That would have been even funnier if Jinx was Malay. The Chinese did a fair bit of colonizing in the region themselves.

Posted by: dh | Jan 10 2019 19:29 utc | 87

wise man speaks

What Trump’s Syrian Withdrawal Really Reveals
A wise decision is greeted by denunciations, obstructionism, imperial thinking, and more Russia-bashing.

By Stephen F. Cohen

Posted by: mauisurfer | Jan 10 2019 19:30 utc | 88

@ James -- pl's quick take on 911 aftermath -85
Yes, I quote Lang sometimes too.
US Muslims and others saw very quickly that the wrong course would be taken, and is still being taken with bombs being dropped on foreign Muslims and persecution of US Muslims.

Not in Our Name (NION) was a United States organization founded on March 23, 2002 to protest the U.S. government's course in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks; it disbanded on March 31, 2008. . .here

On China, Lang got it wrong with his "On the other hand the Chinese Navy is becoming more and more belligerent in challenging what they see as intrusions into their zone of influence in the South China Sea."
Actually China is upset because the US has decided to contest Chiba's territorial claims by sailing within the 12 mile limit of China islands. The US has never taken sides on territorial claims in this area before, but now it is.
recent news:

YOKOSUKA NAVAL BASE, Japan, Jan 8 — The USS McCampbell guided-missile destroyer sailed within 12 nautical miles of the Chinese-claimed Paracel Islands in a freedom-of-navigation mission Monday, a Navy official said.
The exercise was meant to “challenge excessive maritime claims and preserve access to the waterways as governed by international law,” 7th Fleet spokesman Cmdr. Clay Doss told Stars and Stripes in an email Tuesday. . .here

Within the 12 nautical mile limit the US is not contesting maritime claims, but territorial claims. The US is not claiming innocent passage, because that would endorse that these are territorial waters. Rather, the US position is that these are disputed territories, despite China's occupation of them, and so there are no territorial waters. They are international waters because the territory is "disputed" (by the US), is the US position.
This is precisely why China must act against these passages because not doing so would endorse the US position, agreeing that these island don't really belong to China. So there is no doubt that further passages of this type will be disputed by China, probably with near or actual collisions, because they must do so to retain territorial rights. This is why China is correct in being belligerent. The US has left it no other choice. I look for a ship-bumping when the US does this again (they have done it several times already).

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 10 2019 19:31 utc | 89

Sorry folk, bevin quotes Levi Strauss. That's a red flag for me, being a liberal artist of the old school. Others can perhaps be more positive; not me.

Posted by: juliania | Jan 10 2019 19:35 utc | 90

. . . More on China in the South China Sea:
The situation that presaged China's current behavior in the South China Sea occurred earlier in the East China Sea, in the unoccupied Senkakus which were claimed by China and Japan. Then Japan occupied the islands, and the US because of its treaty with Japan declared it would come to Japan's defense if China became belligerent. China took notice of this biased US behavior, which dictated a strong defense against US perfidy.
All of this is against the historical background of WWII after which Japan was supposed to be confined to its home islands and not occupy others (Potsdam Declaration). China, the principal victim of Japanese aggression and occupation, now known as Red China without any rights, received no justice and continues to be a US enemy, and the US no longer remembers Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Jan 10 2019 19:44 utc | 91

@90 don bacon... i should have been more specific... china is doing what any sane country would do in the face of a constantly bellicose usa....

@91 juliania - don't throw out the baby with the bath water..

Posted by: james | Jan 10 2019 20:17 utc | 92

mauisurfer @89: wise man speaks

Cohen is not very wise when he fails to recognize the willy ways of the Deep State/establishment. This is a common complaint of mine. Even "critics" of USA - who recognize that Russiagate is BS and MSM is controlled - fail to see just how devious the Deep State is.

Cohen's description of USA Russia-bashing includes this:

Closer to home, there is the newly reelected Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, who, when asked about Trump’s policies and Russian President Putin, told MSNBC’s Joy Reid: “I think that the president’s relationship with thugs all over the world is appalling. Vladimir Putin, really? Really? I think it’s dangerous.”

But Trump HELPED Pelosi to secure the powerful position of Speaker of the House! By meeting with her and Schumer to discuss his wall, he was already treating her as Speaker before the vote for Speaker took place.

Why would he do that? Because Pelosi had proven herself as an establishment animal when he was Speaker of the House during the Bush Administration. Trump has also brought on anti-Russia officials like: Bolton, Pompeo, Gina Hapel (acolyte of his supposed nemesis, Brennan), Nikki Haley.

At what point does one recognize that Trump and the Deep State work together? Sheesh! Is it stupidity, cowardice, or complicity that makes our wise men ignore reality?

Cohen also fails to mention the Israeli Christmas attack. A likely false flag attempt that actually explains the entire "pull out" dance very well. But such cynical thinking appears to be beyond the ken of our current crop of wise men.

I really don't know how any close observer of the Empire can not be at least a little suspicious of the Israeli Christmas attack. There is plenty of evidence that, despite the ardent hopes of the Trumptards and pro-Russia pundits (collectively, "dreamers"), the AZ Empire has not given up. The intention of the Deep State psy-op known as "Trump" is not to negotiate the Empire's decline, but to face and overcome the challenges posed by the Russia-China alliance.

Welcome to the rabbit hole.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Jan 10 2019 20:18 utc | 93

@ 94 jr.. pelosi needs to look in the mirror.. the usa is the thug.. any other comment is more bullshit from the same liars who have been directing usa foreign policy for much too long...

as regards your comment - "I really don't know how any close observer of the Empire can not be at least a little suspicious of the Israeli Christmas attack" - foxes guarding the hen house... that is what the msm has come down to in the usa today... there is no way they are going to address any of that directly... it is 180 opposite there obvious intention...

Posted by: james | Jan 10 2019 20:50 utc | 94

i'm taken aback at things like murray saying soros was a nice guy and misunderstood, but his blog has a lot of good articles. i thought his coverage of the skripal farce/tragedy was excellent, as was b's.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Jan 10 2019 20:54 utc | 95

Techno_Fog reveals further obstruction of justice by the Justice Cesspool:

"This is significant: the Court cannot find some filings in their original (un-redacted) form. Including:

Motion to dismiss
Declaration of expert
USA Opposition to dismissal
Unknown sealed document"

On the evening of 11 Sept 2001, my mom declared: "The US is going to hell in a hand basket." She was quite correct, and at least she won't suffer what's happening now. Somehow, we need to prevent worse becoming worst.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jan 10 2019 21:22 utc | 96

@bevin, #1 - excellent comment and summarizes the situation very nicely.

Posted by: the_wolf | Jan 10 2019 21:36 utc | 97

james@93 - Baby and bathwater are fine!

Boy is my face red, and huge apologies to bevin. I had a senior moment there, was channeling Leo, not Levi! This from a Stanford site:

"...A number of controversies surround Strauss and his work. First, in recent years, Strauss has been accused of being the intellectual godfather of the neo-conservative political movement and thus of being the intellectual force behind the Bush administration’s plan to invade of Iraq..."

All is not lost, though - I'm going back to read what Stanford (home of a think tank or two) has to say about Leo (Not Levi!)

Posted by: juliania | Jan 10 2019 23:51 utc | 98

Raving loquacious antiwar rant

Posted by: slit | Jan 11 2019 3:15 utc | 99

Spies in Bernie, Corbyn and Trump Campaigns Raise More Questions

Reposted from Consortium News

“Operation Crossfire Hurricane,” launched by John Brennan and shored up via the FBI and the Steele Dossier, was indeed a US/British attempt to investigate and potentially harm a political candidate based on their foreign policy rhetoric. The Integrity Initiative is the UK version of this to smear left wing anti-war Corbyn and other leftists overseas. We also know from Max’s reporting that they planted a spy in the Bernie Sanders campaign. I would bet that the Hillary campaign was the only one not infiltrated. The use of moles in left-wing populist political movements is particularly pertinent right now given the smear attacks on Sanders for alleged sexism and harassment in his campaign. In Scotland, left wing SNP ex-leader Alex Salmond faced accusations against his person from individuals in the party and just yesterday was found innocent with no evidence against him. It looked like a cooked-up plot. Salmond was incidentally targeted in the Integrity documents as hostile to the “Anglo-Saxon Worldview,” and thus a target, along with the left of his party. Not making any claims, just wondering…..

Posted by: Anne Jaclard | Jan 11 2019 4:33 utc | 100

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