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November 16, 2018
The White House Spat With Jim Acosta Is Not A First Amendment Issue, Julian Assange’s Indictment Is One

U.S. media support a questionable First Amendment case when one of the network reporters was rebuked by the White House. They are quiet on another case where the danger to the rights of a free press is much more serious.

On November 9, during a White House press conference with U.S. president Donald Trump, CNN reporter Jim Acosta staged a confrontation. His 'questions' to Trump during the press conference amounted to political statements and personal accusations. The situation escalated when Acosta insisted to make more statement while the president invited other reporters to ask their questions.

The first Acosta statement/question was about the so called caravan of immigrants that traveled through Mexico to the U.S. border. Trump had used it as a boogeyman during the midterm election campaign and had called it an "invasion". Trump answered the question by explaining that he wants immigrants to go through the legal immigration process and to not pass the border illegally. Acosta interrupted Trump's answer and asked a follow up, again in an accusing tone. Trump also answered that second question.

Acosta made another attempt to involve Trump into a political discussion about the issue. The president rejected that by telling Acosta to do his job as reporter while he, Trump, would do his as president. He moved on to the next reporter.

A White House aid got up to fetch the mobile microphone Acosta held in his hand. He more or less pushed her away and tried to ask another question, this time on the "Russian investigation". Trump told him "That's enough. That's enough." Acosta continued to ask. Trump relented and answered the question by saying that the whole "Russia investigation" is a hoax. Acosta tried another question, number five, asking if Trump was worried about indictments in the case. Trump turned away.

Acosta finally gave up the microphone. Trump then told Acosta that he is a "rude, terrible person" and that CNN "should be ashamed" to have him as a reporter.

Trump turned to another reporter to continued the press conference. While the next reporter asked his question Acosta got up again, interrupted the other reporter and again tried to get Trump into a discussion. He failed.

A video of the full exchange is here.

When I watched that segment on that day I found the behavior of Acosta obnoxious and primitive. He, and a few other reporters, did not ask questions to elicit answers, but tried to provoke Trump by making partisan political statements which were only superficially framed as questions. Acosta's behavior was impolite and disrespectful not only towards Trump but also to fellow reporters.

Later that day the White House revoked Acosta's White House 'hard pass' which gives the holder expanded access to the White House. CNN went to court claiming that the revocation violated Acosta's first and fifth amendment rights.

The First Amendment is about free speech. It has nothing to do with a 'right' to enter the White House. Neither does the right to free speech include a 'right' to get invited to press conferences. The Fifth Amendment is, among other things, about due process.

CNN asked the court for a preliminary restraining order against the White House revocation of Acosta's 'hard pass'. It was granted today based on case law related to the Fifth Amendment due process argument. Preliminary orders are not final judgments. They are granted to prevent potential additional damage while a legal case goes on. The court seemed to disagree with the underlying precedence the CNN lawyers had cited:

As [judge] Kelly began to offer his view on the components of CNN's request, he said that while he may not agree with the underlying case law that CNN's argument was based on, he had to follow it.

"I've read the case closely," he said. "Whether it's what I agree with, that's a different story. But I must apply precedent as I see it."

He left open the possibility that the White House could seek to revoke it again if it provided that due process, emphasizing the "very limited" nature of his ruling and saying he was not making a judgment on the First Amendment claims that CNN and Acosta have made.

The judge seems to thinks that the White House was justified but acted in a too chaotic manner when it revoked Ascota's 'hard pass' without citing rules or regulations. It is most likely that the White House will now create such rules pertaining White House access and press conferences. It will then use those to again limit Acosta's access.

I would be fine with that. The news value of White House press conferences has steadily been going down. That's to some part the fault of the White House press secretary. But it is also to a large part the fault of the press corps and the media who do not ask real questions but are unreasonably hostile and seem to be more interested in creating political strife than in facts. Some disciplinary measure may help to change that.

The Trump administration is doing some horrible stuff in dismantling environmental and legal regulations. Its foreign policy is devastating whole countries. Its fiscal policies are catastrophic. There are many good question that could be asked about these issues, but they no longer come up. Instead the press corp, especially the network reporters, play gotcha and use the press conferences for political stunts.

A number of other media organizations supported the CNN case by filing amicus briefs. That is probably a mistake. The legality of Acosta's case is quite dubious. The more the media engages on his site, the more will the White House push back by creating stricter regulations. These regulations, once they are laid out, will be used against all media. If not by this administration then by the next one.

It would also be nice if these first amendment defenders would take up a real first amendment case instead of the phony Acosta issue.

Julian Assange, the publisher of Wikileaks, has been indicted by the Justice Department for publishing truthful information about illegal and outrageous behavior of the U.S. government and U.S. politicians.

I don't see any of those who defend the obnoxious behavior of Acosta, taking a first amendment stand in the case against Wikileaks and Assange. None of those media, who all reported on and profited from the material Assange published, has filed an amicus brief to his case. The indictment of Assange is a grave threat to press freedom. Where are the editorials defending him?

 

Comments

How is it that this “craigsummers” character thinks they have even a tiny ounce of credibility remaining here? Nothing it just spouted differs in the slightest from your typical U.S. State Department or NATO establishment think tank lies. Not a bit. It’s almost as if this person might be representing one of those organizations.

Posted by: Mike A. | Nov 17 2018 22:28 utc | 101

@ 101 mike a.. most everyone ignores them… if you want a western propaganda overview, cs is the man, lol…cs reality falls apart very quickly when examined more closely…

Posted by: james | Nov 17 2018 22:58 utc | 102

IMO, The Borg, Power, Machine, Whatever, cannot let JA off the hook and will not no matter what. The longer the torture the better. And if it is bad for the press and journalism, all the better.
A glaring display of what will happen to you if you step out of line like JA did.

Posted by: arby | Nov 17 2018 23:58 utc | 103

@96 Ort
I deliberately didn’t include link so as not to easily divert readers from b’s article and comments, but assumed article was easily found.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2018/11/17/the-empire-keeps-proving-assange-right-about-everything/
We’ll have to wait and see if the status quo ‘protocol’ re White House press conferences continues. It would be a surprise if signs of disappeared sober sensible second thought were to emerge in this case. Pindar, I believe it was, was passed on by Herodotus said that Custom Rules. So if Pindar’s dictum holds, the Titanic will continue full speed ahead.

Posted by: Robert Snefjella | Nov 18 2018 0:15 utc | 104

>> CNN’s ratings have been plunging down
Do CNN and Fox “ratings” include their airport and .gov TV’s? Do they “estimate” the number of engaged eyeballs in these waiting rooms and offices?
Those fucking TV’s. Even when the sound is off, the bullshit text banners are there. Short phrases reinforcing memes. Over and over. Classic propaganda.
“Want to know more?” /s

Posted by: dumbass | Nov 18 2018 3:03 utc | 105

Russ @ 97
Ok, here goes. I offer this up to you only to see what level of absurdity your next response will reach. You are already lost in space as it is, Will Robinson. LMAO.
Here is your question of me:
I would ask you and all other invokers of that book, what praytell is the fortress which exists today and which we therefore need to focus on defending? So far as I can see, there is no such thing. In which case Lenin’s book is irrelevant.
Either you’re misunderstanding or you are talking about a completely different book, Russ. Superman comic book, maybe? The Fortress of Solitude? Lol.
Historical Parallels in the quote below:
“the Centre” is approximately today’s “Uniparty”
“rural proletariats” are Trump’s deplorables
“parliamentarism” represents the liberal democratic governments whose sole function is the maintanence and protection of the .2%
German “Left” Communists are today’s “ultralefts who reject all mainstream parties and exist, according to Lenin, in small intellectual circles (of jerkers, I would add).

In the first place, contrary to the opinion of such outstanding political leaders as Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht, the German “Lefts”, as we know, considered parliamentarianism “politically obsolete” even in January 1919. We know that the “Lefts” were mistaken. This fact alone utterly destroys, at a single stroke, the proposition that parliamentarianism is “politically obsolete”. It is for the “Lefts” to prove why their error, indisputable at that time, is no longer an error. They do not and cannot produce even a shred of proof. A political party’s attitude towards its own mistakes is one of the most important and surest ways of judging how earnest the party is and how it fulfils in practice its obligations towards its class and the working people. Frankly acknowledging a mistake, ascertaining the reasons for it, analysing the conditions that have led up to it, and thrashing out the means of its rectification—that is the hallmark of a serious party; that is how it should perform its duties, and how it should educate and train its class, and then the masses. By failing to fulfil this duty and give the utmost attention and consideration to the study of their patent error, the “Lefts” in Germany (and in Holland) have proved that they are not a party of a class, but a circle, not a party of the masses, but a group of intellectualists and of a few workers who ape the worst features of intellectualism.
Second, in the same pamphlet of the Frankfurt group of “Lefts”, which we have already cited in detail, we read:
“. . . The millions of workers who still follow the policy of the Centre [the Catholic ‘Centre’ Party] are counter-revolutionary. The rural proletarians provide the legions of counter-revolutionary troops.” (Page 3 of the pamphlet.)
Everything goes to show that this statement is far too sweeping and exaggerated. But the basic fact set forth here is incontrovertible, and its acknowledgment by the “Lefts” is particularly clear evidence of their mistake. How can one say that “parliamentarianism is politically obsolete”, when “millions” and “legions” of proletarians are not only still in favour of parliamentarianism in general, but are downright “counter-revolutionary”!? It is obvious that parliamentarianism in Germany is not yet politically obsolete. It is obvious that the “Lefts” in Germany have mistaken their desire, their politico-ideological attitude, for objective reality. That is a most dangerous mistake for revolutionaries to make. In Russia—where, over a particularly long period and in particularly varied forms, the most brutal and savage yoke of tsarism produced revolutionaries of diverse shades, revolutionaries who displayed amazing devotion, enthusiasm, heroism and will power—in Russia we have observed this mistake of the revolutionaries at very close quarters; we have studied it very attentively and have a first-hand knowledge of it; that is why we can also see it especially clearly in others. Parliamentarianism is of course “politically obsolete” to the Communists in Germany; but—and that is the whole point—we must not regard what is obsolete to us as something obsolete to a class, to the masses. Here again we find that the “Lefts” do not know how to reason, do not know how to act as the party of a class, as the party of the masses. You must not sink to the level of the masses, to the level of the backward strata of the class. That is incontestable. You must tell them the bitter truth. You are in duty bound to call their bourgeois-democratic and parliamentary prejudices what they are—prejudices. But at the same time you must soberly follow the actual state of the class-consciousness and preparedness of the entire class (not only of its communist vanguard), and of all the working people (not only of their advanced elements).

And here is the crux of the problem for every postmodern blogginghead of the ultraleft (emphasis mine):

Tactics must be based on a sober and strictly objective appraisal of all the class forces in a particular state (and of the states that surround it, and of all states the world over) as well as of the experience of revolutionary movements. It is very easy to show one’s “revolutionary” temper merely by hurling abuse at parliamentary opportunism, or merely by repudiating participation in parliaments; its very ease, however, cannot turn this into a solution of a difficult, a very difficult, problem.

I eagerly await your next pithy response dude….

Posted by: donkeytale | Nov 18 2018 14:02 utc | 106

donkeytale
I wonder what Lenin would’ve thought of Obama’s use of this argument when he urged the left: “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good”.
As every “postmodern blogginghead of the ultraleft” knows, this was his way of excusing his betrayal of “Change You Can Believe In”.
Is it not right and just that the left attack the people and institutions that have co-opted the masses with fear or do we just STFU? Even to the point of advocating noncompliance?
I await your long-winded response.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 18 2018 15:15 utc | 107

So the DOJ wants to indict Assange the journalist on the ground of Espionage Act.
Well, the Assange’ legitimate journalist activities (and the information revealed by Wikileaks) pale next to the pro-espionage activities of Hilary Clinton and Debbie Wassermann-Schultz.
Clinton willful use of the unprotected servers resulted in the steady access by the Chinese security apparatus to the US highly classified information:
http://www.floppingaces.net/2018/08/28/meet-chinas-mole-in-the-us-hillary-clinton/
“Meet China’s mole in the US – Hillary Clinton. The damage she did to the US is monumental”
https://turcopolier.typepad.com/.m/sic_semper_tyrannis/2016/01/httpwwwlatimescompoliticsla-na-clinton-email-20160129-storyhtml/comments/page/2/
Wasserman-Schultz special relationships with the un-wetted and un-qualified Awan brothers resulted in the open access by the brothers (who did not even have security clearance) to the congressional computers containing a highly classified information:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/60l4pu/the_awan_brothers_compromised_at_least_80/
“The Awan Brothers – Compromised at least 80 congregational computers and got paid 5 million to do it. We may never know the extent of the breach”
When caught, the rabid zionist threatens the DC chief police: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebDs58VoRzY
Meanwhile, Debbie’s bother Steven Wasserman has been successfully stalling the investigation of Seth Rich murder: http://www.thegoldwater.com/news/5697-Steven-Wasserman-Brother-of-Debbie-Wasserman-Schultz-Overseeing-Awan-Imran-Case
To sum up:
Assange the journalist has helped to reveal the illegal activities of the US government, whereas both Clinton and Wasserman-Schults had been illegally providing an open access to the highly classified information for various spies, thus endangering the national security.
If the DOJ “patriots” really cared about national security of the US, they would first of all put under arrest the real national security threat — the traitorous Clinton and Wasserman-Schults. But there are no men (and no patriots) in the DOJ but only eunuchs serving the “haves.”

Posted by: Anya | Nov 18 2018 15:58 utc | 108

JR – I doubt Lenin would much care about Obama except as a representative of the elites during a certain time and place. Lenin was concerned with destroying capitalism and the bourgeoisie and the difficult process by which that could be accomplished over time. He was clearly more interested in the mass of people a bourgeois political leader represents than the leader’s own use of slogans and excuse-making for his relative failures.
Criticism is a wonderful and necessary tool for education. IMHO, self-criticism possesses the most value in that it leads to self-education, which is truly the only kind that exists in subjective reality.
Criticism of the status quo as an end-in-itself is ultimately in service to the status quo. Similar to idealism, Idealism as an end-in-itself is reactionary.
Social media is the ultimate tool for expressing criticism. Criticism (of others) is everywhere. We all do it. We live and breathe it 24/7!
Yet, during the social media age the wealthy have further enriched and entrenched themselves and the political zeitgeist has trended farther to the right in service to the status quo, which continually benefits the wealthiest, degrades the planet, etc.

Posted by: donkeytale | Nov 18 2018 16:50 utc | 109

DonkeyDembotshill babbles and babbles but can’t answer a simple question about a book, because he never read it and because all his posturing boils down to “Stay the course with electoralism in general and the Democrat Party in particular.”

Posted by: Russ | Nov 18 2018 18:38 utc | 110

Peter AU 1 (81)
Burton is livid bout Assange: “Assange is going to make a nice bride in prison. Screw the terrorist. He’ll be eating cat food forever.” https://www.stratfor.com/people/189111
It is easy to see the difference between the pompous Fred Burton (a loyal servant to the zionists and war profiteers) and Smedley Butler, “the most decorated Marine in U.S. history,” who was a true soldier and patriots. Unlike the opportunistic “security expert” Barton, Smedley Butler had a courage to speak truth to power.
Does Burton, the “expert investigator”, know where the $6 trillion, which the Pentagon cannot account for, has disappeared to?
And how come that Fred Barton hates viscerally the free and courageous men like Assange?
We can be sure that the Fred Burton would never ever attempt to investigate the treasonous Clinton’s activities, whether the “Uranium One” or the private server criminal affair that was the prime case of allowing an open access to the highly classified information for the foreign agents.

Posted by: Anya | Nov 18 2018 20:59 utc | 111

@Jackrabbit.
My point is that the First Amendment is a wide umbrella. Everyone who shares information or opinion should come under it. Claiming someone doesn’t come under it weakens everyone else’s claims that it should protect them.
Ps. Katherine Graham never said the quote you attribute to her.

Posted by: TimmyB | Nov 18 2018 23:12 utc | 112

TimmyB
I agreed with you with the caveat that the press can be manipulated.
The quote has a long history She may not have originated, it but she may have used it. A bunch of quote sites now link the quote to her.
It would have been very appropriate for her to have used the quote given the pressure she was under to not publish the Pentagon Papers.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 19 2018 0:35 utc | 113

Trump’s spat with Acosta continues. That should shock no one.
As someone mentioned in the comments at that link, Trump could simply not call on Acosta. But he chooses to ban him entirely, allowing CNN to grandstand as protector of press freedom.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 19 2018 14:55 utc | 114

Caitlin Johnstone describes the response to Assange’s indictment from the “McResistance”:

And this is really the lesson we can take from all this. The noxious strain of American liberalism which promotes Russia conspiracy theories, supports the prosecution of government transparency advocates, and only attacks Trump as an idea rather than actually resisting his actual policies was never about any principle of any kind. There were preexisting agendas against Russia, alternative media, WikiLeaks, and government transparency long before Trump took office, and all of those agendas have been systematically advanced by the powerful using the “us vs them” herd mentality of the McResistance. These people aren’t supporting the prosecution of a leak publisher because of their ideological values, they are supporting it because that’s what powerful manipulators want them to do.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 19 2018 15:21 utc | 115

Caitlin Johnstone Responds to Establishment BS about Assange: Newsweek-Employed Spy Explains To Us Why Assange Should Be Prosecuted:

And really that’s the only thing these paid manipulators are ever telling you when they smear Assange or argue for his prosecution: powerful people need to be able to lie to you and hide information from you without being inconvenienced or embarrassed by WikiLeaks. If they say it often enough and in a sufficiently confident tone, some trusting, well-intentioned people will overlook the fact that this is an intensely moronic thing for anyone to believe.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 25 2018 17:54 utc | 116