Given that it’s election day, this song spells out just about how I feel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgB1S1t4bVw
It’s also a good song for the regulars here at the bar, of which I am one. Belly up to the bar, people! Long live MoA!

Posted by: m | Nov 6 2018 18:35 utc | 3

Posted by: A. Person | Nov 6, 2018 2:07:20 PM | 4
I believe your mother dropped you on your head.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Nov 6 2018 19:46 utc | 5

I think the Democrats will take this one, but I hope not. Here’s hoping that more third parties will gain control of the country because we desperately need more third parties.
Anyway, has anyone else read Eurasia Future before? It’s a very good website. I suggest you all read it.
If you guys have any other websites to share, then as always, please do so. I believe that this will be more vital as time goes on. The reason why I constantly ask if you guys have any websites to share is because of the increasing amount of censorship that’s happening. I’m a young person, but I see it clear as day: the United States is turning more authoritarian and is in decline.

Posted by: TruthFinder | Nov 6 2018 20:04 utc | 7

Some old school Don Lee…
“a poem to compliment other poems”
change.
life if u were a match i wd light u into something beautiful. change.
change.
for the better into a realreal together thing. change, from a make believe
nothing on cornmeal and water. change.
change. from the last drop to the first, maxwellhouse did. change.
change was a programmer for imb, thought him was a brown computer. change.
colored is something written on southern outhouses. change.
greyhound did, i mean they got rest rooms on buses. change.
change.
change nigger.
saw a nigger hippy, him wanted to be different. changed.
saw a nigger liberal. him wanted to be different changed.
saw a nigger conservative, him wanted to be different. changed.
niggers don’t u know that niggers are different. change.
a double change. nigger wanted a double zero in front of his name; a license to kill,
niggers are licensed to be killed. change. a negro: something pigs eat.
change. i say change into a realblack righteous aim. like i don’t play saxophone but that doesn’t mean i don’t dig ‘trane.’ change.
change.
hear u coming but yr/steps are too loud. change. even a lamp post changes nigger.
change, stop being an instant yes machine. change.
niggers don’t change they just grow. that’s a change; bigger &better niggers. change, into a necessary blackself.
change, like a gas meter gets higher.
change, like a blues song talking about a righteous tomorrow.
change, like a tax bill getting higher.
change, like a good sister getting better.
change, like knowing wood will burn. change.
know the realenemy.
change,
change nigger: standing on the corner, thought him was cool.
him still standing there. it’s winter time, him cool.
change,
know the realenemy.
change: him wanted to be a tv star. him is. ten o’clock news.
wanted, wanted. nigger stole some lemon & lime popsicles, thought them were diamonds.
change nigger change.
know the realenemy.
change: is u is or is u aint. change. now now change. for the better change.
read a change. live a change. read a blackpoem. change. be the realpeople.
change. blackpoems
will change:
know the realenemy. change. know the realenemy. change yr/enemy change know the real
change know the real enemy change, change, know the realenemy, the realenemy, the real
realenemy change your the enemies/ change your change your change your enemy change
your enemy. know the realenemy, the world’s enemy. know them know them know them the
realenemy change your enemy change your change change change your enemy change change
change change your change change change.
your
mind nigger.

Posted by: b4real | Nov 6 2018 20:17 utc | 9

If a Global Armistice were declared for the 100th anniversary of 11/11/1918, which entities would actually agree: The Outlaw US Empire and its Terrorist Allies? The Zionists? NATO and its Terrorist Allies? The 4+1: Russia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Hezbollah? Taliban and Afghan forces? Saudi Arabia, UAE and its Terrorist Allies? Houthis? All irregular forces within Africa and their national opponents? Oh, almost forgot the biggest and longest ongoing conflict of them all: The Class War, meaning the Elites waging it against everyone else. Did I omit anyone? Yeah, Turks and Kurds. Seems like more of a global war going on now versus 1918 with the Outlaw US Empire’s drive to attain Full Spectrum Dominance targeting all of humanity and Nature.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 6 2018 20:41 utc | 11

6
As you certainly know, the oil producers and frackers are technically insolvent, also China filled up a vast strategic oil reserve, USA filled a vast strategic oil reserve, so Trump-Pence’s intent is the exact same as Bush-Cheney’s with Iraq: destroy oil supply to below demand, and as soon as reserves are depleted this winter heating season, crude prices will spike back up to a break-even for the frackers, Canucks and Venezuelans, whereupon supply will rip again, and prices fall to trade within a range of right around $100 a bbl, …plus €2 a liter petrol surcharge for your IPCC Carbon Catholic tithe.
Would you like turnips with that?

Posted by: Anton Worter | Nov 6 2018 20:45 utc | 13

Karlof, keep posting, this may be of assistance.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bypasspaywalls/

Posted by: Col from OZ | Nov 6 2018 21:08 utc | 15

#14–
Gee, I was expecting cabbage and Victory Gin. Do you know what variety of crude the US strategic Oil Reserve holds and its refinability?

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 6 2018 21:18 utc | 17

Mueller has held off publishing any reports or further indictments on Russia-gate. This was in respect for the elections today. Even if Mueller had conclusive evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, this would not make any difference to Trump’s base of support. Most of his base would thank Putin and Assange for exposing the corrupt HRC campaign.
Personally, I think there is better than a 70% chance that the Trump campaign entered into a conspiracy with Russia – sanctions relief (for Russia) in exchange for help with the campaign (i.e. dirt on HRC). Russia continued to attack the Hillary campaign even after Crowdstrike identified Russian hackers on the DNC computer including hacking “…into email accounts used by Clinton’s personal office “after hours” on 27 July 2016….” according to Mueller.
Regardless, Trump will not be removed from office unless he is defeated in the 2020 election. He most certainly will not resign no matter what Mueller finds – and there likely will not be enough votes to remove him from office.

Posted by: craigsummers | Nov 6 2018 22:09 utc | 19

#1 b,
I had a similar shoulder pain that was painful enough to interrupt
my sleep.
Ditto my wife.
It all disappeared after we started taking morning and night 30 ml
of Magnesium chloride dissolved in water, 30grams to a liter.
Never had any more joint pain. Also, bones did not hurt anymore after
taking Cialis, as it did before. (common side effect of tadalafil (Cialis)).

Posted by: CarlD | Nov 6 2018 22:21 utc | 21

The latest garbage issued by the yanks.
https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2018/08/285043.htm
“Following the use of a “Novichok” nerve agent in an attempt to assassinate UK citizen Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia Skripal, the United States, on August 6, 2018, determined under the Chemical and Biological Weapons Control and Warfare Elimination Act of 1991 (CBW Act) that the Government of the Russian Federation has used chemical or biological weapons in violation of international law or has used lethal chemical or biological weapons against its own nationals.
Following a 15-day Congressional notification period, these sanctions will take effect upon publication of a notice in the Federal Register, expected on or around August 22, 2018”
…..
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-sanctions/u-s-says-to-issue-chemical-weapons-related-sanctions-against-russia-idUSKCN1NB2M7?il=0
“The department in August had threatened Russia with added sanctions after 90 days unless it complied with the 1991 Chemical and Biological Weapons and Warfare Elimination Act.
Under the law, Russia had to end the use of the nerve agent Novichok, which was used in the poisoning of Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in March, commit to not using chemical weapons against its own people, and allow on-site inspections by agencies like the United Nations.
“Today, the department informed Congress we could not certify that the Russian Federation met the conditions,” U.S. State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said in a statement.”

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Nov 6 2018 22:39 utc | 23

24 – “Under the law, Russia had to end the use of the nerve agent Novichok…”
However, to show good faith, President Putin has stopped beating his wife.

Posted by: Bart Hansen | Nov 6 2018 22:49 utc | 25

Okay, this is the last time I trust the polls and not my instincts! You know what I suspect? College kids showed up at the polls but lied to pollsters. Looks like the wave is coming after all. Now you know there’s no democracy to see here, since both parties are beholden bought and sold, but I gotta say it’ll be fun to watch some fireworks. I wanna see a lot of ass kicking, especially Trump’s. I really don’t see that Zionist tool Schumer kicking McConnell’s butt, or Trump’s butt, however if Pelosi is replaced (and there are many calling for just that) watch out; whoever replaces her will come with war paint on.

Posted by: Circe | Nov 6 2018 22:57 utc | 27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wBpajfr7FQ&app=desktop
Pretty powerful video. I’ve seen nothing like it before…

Posted by: TruthFinder | Nov 6 2018 23:15 utc | 29

So far, it seems a broken election as usual. The tweet about Colombus Day being a federal holiday while election day isn’t was quite apt. Of course, back in the 19th century there wasn’t a set nationwide election day for midterm elections as it was up to the states to set their own election days prior to the direct election of US Senators. As such, Congressional turnover occurred throughout the year which could swing the majority from one side to the other. Back then, voter fraud was a problem but election fraud wasn’t; now those tables are turned. Georgia seems very ripe for election fraud followed by a voter insurrection given the well publicized dirty dealings of the Republican Secretary of State and candidate for Governor. The upshot is: If Americans are ever to gain control of the federal government, they must gain control of their electoral process first by purging it of ALL potential fraudulent devices while allowing voting to occur over the first full weekend in November.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 6 2018 23:41 utc | 31

b wrote:

The pain in my right shoulder is much better now, and I can somewhat use my arm again.
The issue isn’t serious but likely just a reaction to constant overuse under not ideal ergonomic circumstances. I was told to refrain from typing and using the mouse for another day or two or until I feel no more pain at all.

This is way too optimistic. This issue usually is chronic and subside very slowly, often when you lost any hope that it can be eliminated. Typically pain lasts at least one month, and often half a year even with medication and physiotherapy.
Typically this is the first sign of a chronic condition that is very difficult to cure. I think that switching to your left hand for the mouse is a must and should be the first adjustment step.
One treatment that works for me is to put your hands on a thick peace foam bed cover. Cut a part corresponding to the area of the table where you mouse and keyboard are located, then cut the hole in it for keyboard and mousepad. Or just cut two strips which is simpler, but they tend to slide.
After then put your hand on foam why typing and using the mouse. This damping of vibration (or whatever) provided by 4-5 cm thick foam help to eliminate pain pretty effectively.
Also, you might benefit from getting Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 for Business ($37 on Amazon) as well. It is cheap and helps in such conditions. It allows to increase the angle between your elbow and provides reverse tilt for the keyboard.
I also tried a dozen of creams and physical therapy methods. Looks like Aspirin-containing cream (for example, Aspercream) works better.
Among exercises that might work (but did not work for me, at least did not produce significant effects), I would mention self-massage (look at youtube videos) as well as the exercise of rotating a plastic tube (you can buy a special on Amazon, or use those used for swimming) with two hands in opposite directions, and squeezing a tennis ball while walking.
The key here is that they help to provide adequate attention to this serious problem so even when they are useless, they re helpful by keeping you alert to the problem 😉

Posted by: likbez | Nov 6 2018 23:57 utc | 33

31
Speaking of ‘assassination’, do you think Apeel’s massive reduction in fossil fuel usage for cold chain storage and transportation demand will be carefully figured into IPCC’s $400 a ton ‘goal’ for 2035, eliminating in one stroke the ‘need’ (sic) for a Carbon Tithe and Credit Scheme?
Yeah, that’ll happen. The Carbon Tithe and Credit Scheme will give no credit to technological improvements, only to their tinpot dictators and generals who roust 1,000,000s of 3W indigents off their freelands, then log off tropical rain forests and plant Corporate oil plantations for the ‘carbon credits’. e.g. Devastate the 3W for Corporate, but it’s ‘good’ devastation! Everyone makes a little grease, IPCC gets to wear their Pope hats and students get to use green finger paint.
If the Third Temple Carbon Crusade establishes a beach head tonight in WA State, you can forget about any human progress. Carbon Credits is nothing more than an Honduran-style genocide of 3W campesanos for Albertus Bucks. Another Iran-Contra^n.

Posted by: Anton Worter | Nov 7 2018 0:13 utc | 35

Glenn brown@15
According to UAH temperature records there has been no warming since 2003 although the strong El Nino a couple of years ago caused a transient temperature spike which has since subsided
The world was been warming over 14000 years along with some cooling periods in between. This is normal in interglacial periods. We are cooler and sea levels lower than the previous interglacial. The normal for the world is the longer lasting glacial periods which come and go every 100,000 years to be followed by interglacials lasting 10,000-20,000 years. Since the end of the last glaciation, there has been an average sea level rise of 1 cm per year. During this time, sea level has fallen and risen at rates of over 2 cm per year. This rate of sea level change is far higher than the most catastrophic IPCC speculations.
Sea levels have been rising since the last glaciation ended and reached a maximum 6000 years ago. There has been no acceleration of sea level rise amid the period of industrialisation.
Man has contributed to warming. The UHI effect is real but localized and most of the worlds land temperature stations are located in industrialized US and European urban areas distorting the picture. Fortunately we have satellite measurements like UAH although only for the last 40 years
Outgoing long wave radiation has not decreased, which the models predict as being necessary for the planet to be warming at an accelerated rate. They claim the heat is hidden by the oceans but this should be reflected with a lower OLWR. They also predict increased water vapor in the upper-mid troposphere as a feed back to increased CO2. Water vapor in that region has dropped 20% since 1950 despite a 40% increase in C02. As reduced water vapor in the upper troposphere increases OLWR (cooling) that offsets any reduction (warming) from CO2. Since 2003 when temperatures have been flat, water vapor in the upper-mid troposphere has been flat as well despite an increase in CO2 from 370-410 ppm. The fact it has not declined may be due to other variables causing cooling. Nevertheless it has not increased as the models predicted
The AGW theory as demonstrated by the models failing to predict OLWR, Temperature and upper level water vapor is thus proven to be false or at least questionable

Posted by: Pft | Nov 7 2018 0:17 utc | 37

A. Person
I beileve that children are our future…

Posted by: Featherless | Nov 7 2018 1:02 utc | 39

I just want to note that the posting thread about the Film Israel does not want folks to see has only 59 comments and nearly every other posting thread by b has hundreds of comments.
That speaks volumes about the films to me.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 7 2018 1:27 utc | 41

Yeesh, looks like elections were a clusterfuck :
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/11/06/broken-machines-and-hours-long-waits-stopping-voters-casting-ballots-majority-says

Posted by: Featherless | Nov 7 2018 1:39 utc | 43

15
The ‘sea rise’, as you put it, is the tail end of the Ice Age, and if you know anything about natural processes, it’s double-tapered log e S-curve, in other words, the ‘sea rise’ is going flat line and asymptotic to zero.
AFA the IPCC claiming ‘2.5mm per year sea rise’ (sic), that’s pure horse puckey. Sea level wasn’t measured in inches or even cm until after 1970, when the satellite distance ranging telemetry accurate was ±3.5cm, and only in the last few years has upgraded satellite ranging been in the sub-±1mm’s range.
So you are relying on a record that’s only 48 years old, 45 of those years of which were no better than ±3.5cm accuracy, in measuring diurnal tidal variations of ±100cm’s and superimposed on that, open ocean wave heights of ±1000cm’s, with no corrections made for low fog interference or for the ±???cms orbital altitude variation of the satellites themselves, and yet the summmary of your IPCC Astronomical Gastrointestinal Warning statistical redux is a ‘sea rise of +0.25cm’ …against a data set ranging ±4000x of that value!
That’s purely insane. That would be like going to a 125 dB Die Antwoord concert, and saying that you can heard a pin drop! No, wait, a pin drop is 10dB. So no, that would would only be 12.5x louder. We gotta go way bigger for 4000x. That would be like standing next to a Bikini Atoll 100MT thermonuclear explosion, and saying you heard a cricket chirp in the tree.
And because you never bothered to research or think this through, like the 1000s of other bogus claims from the AGW Carbon Crusade, you and your children and your greatgrandchildren will inherit a Third Temple Carbon Catholic massive repression and tithe-taxation, at a time when the human race needs every drop of fossil fuel energy it can get to build for any hope of a future. What IPCC and the Carbon Tithe and Credit Scheme proposes is GENOCIDE.
¿You wanna know your future under the al-Goreian Scientocrats? There’s your New Garden of Eden. Enjoy!

Posted by: Anton Worter | Nov 7 2018 2:04 utc | 45

#15

One of the more unambiguous indicators that our world is heating up dangerously is the rise in sea levels.

Mr. Brown, there are so many “signals”/”indicators” that the Deniers have to be living in la-la land to ignore them all. That they’ll have a horrible ending like the rest of us is no comfort at all.

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Nov 7 2018 2:37 utc | 47

psychohistorian 42
The most interesting aspect of The Lobby was the threatened release of the film were the geo-political splits and alliances it revealed or highlighted. A guest author at SST had a piece on it some time back. The Saudi blockade and Trump calling Qatar a state sponsor of terror resulted from the making and imminent release of the film. Qatar then moved closer to Iran and Turkey which made me realise the anti Israel alliance could override many other differences. In Syria, Iran is on the opposite side to Turkey and Qatar, yet with Trumps moves against the palestinians and declaring Jerusalem the zionist capital, the two Sunni states Turkey and wahabbi Qatar are now closer to shia Iran than than they are to KSA and the Sunni states that are acquiescing to israel.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Nov 7 2018 3:19 utc | 49

@ Peter AU 1 with the response to my comment about b’s “The Film that Israel…” thread.
Thanks for the shifting alliance insight. I am sorry I was not more clear with my observation being that the normal trolls were/are staying far away from that thread…..hence a whole lots less comments.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Nov 7 2018 3:45 utc | 51

Pft 38 a well written argument but this…
“Since the end of the last glaciation, there has been an average sea level rise of 1 cm per year….Sea levels have been rising since the last glaciation ended and reached a maximum 6000 years ago”
1 cm per year over 6000 years equals 60 meters.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Nov 7 2018 4:18 utc | 53

Quentin
Although I had not noticed it at the time, Psycho’s observation is correct. Perhaps you will have to ask the trolls why they abstained, but it would be hard to argue against film when their hero’s are caught on film saying what they are supposed to be arguing against.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Nov 7 2018 4:54 utc | 55

Glenn Brown@53
I did not say there has been no warming since 1978. I agree there has been warming since 1978 (it was cold in those days man, brrrr). I did say UAH has found no warming since 2003. In 1978 following a cold period lasting 30 years climate scientists were seriously warning of a looming ice age. These 20-30 year warming/cooling cycles are part of a normal climatic pattern

Posted by: Pft | Nov 7 2018 5:03 utc | 57

…
I was told to refrain from typing and using the mouse for another day or two or until I feel no more pain at all.
Thanks for all the advise and best wishes.
Posted by: b | Nov 6, 2018 1:26:46 PM | 1
So you did consult an experienced doctor? Why am I not surprised?
(A person as careful about selecting sources upon which to base detailed political analysis and commentary as b is, wouldn’t dream of self-diagnosing a debilitating ailment (for more than 5 seconds)).

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 7 2018 5:26 utc | 59

50
That dB was my beartrap, but you proved yourself a chicken eating skunk, refusing to complete your comparison ratio, and PROVE that the absurd 1:4000 S:N ratio of AGW ‘sea rise’ data trollsis, in fact, worse by a factor of 10x, than claiming you can heard a pin drop at a Die Antwoord concert, by your own math! Baawwwk, baawwwk, baawwwk, you just proved AGW is a lie! A theory is only a theory until proven. A consensus of theories is no more ‘proof’ that 184 henna-bearded public doll scientists is 97% agreement. ‘Peer-reviewer’s reports has already been PROVEN. a fraud, your pyramid of fraud is no more Science than Mao’s Little Red Book is poetry.

Posted by: Anton Worter | Nov 7 2018 5:50 utc | 61

To #59

Of course, science buffs remember that what Christy and Spencer are best known for is being repeatedly, stubbornly, consistently, and finally, admittedly, wrong, on the basic interpretation of their own data, which they claimed for a decade showed little or no warming in global climate, reinforcing their claims with a consistent series of errors that (surprise, surprise) always seemed to fall in the direction of cooling – until they realized their stand was consigning them to the realm of flat earth, geocentric and creationist crackpots. They know, however, that they will always be welcome in Rupert Murdoch’s echo chamber.

(I’m not sure how many links are allowed here before “moderation” kicks in, so google “Climate Contrarians Cling to Cracked and Creaky Claims”)
Christy has an evangelical background. This causes me to suspect he would welcome the end of the world. After all, wouldn’t the collapse of Earth’s biosphere force God’s hand and guarantee the Return of Jesus? A person with that viewpoint wouldn’t really be telling a sleazy lie – it would be for the Greater Good.
So far as the No Recent Warming claims go, that merely involves being VERY careful about how the start/stop points for the interval are chosen. Yes, the temperatures oscillate year to year, but the trend still continues be upwards. But then, the professional Deniers are a lot more interested in their Exxon paychecks than they are actual “science”. So choosing a selected brief period to buttress their dishonest claim isn’t a problem at all.
Cherrypicking to Deny Continued Ocean and Global Warming

Posted by: Zachary Smith | Nov 7 2018 6:16 utc | 63

Taffyboy | Nov 6, 2018 3:10:33 PM | 8
…and may come the day when the poppy’s grow,
row upon row,
without the bodies, there below…

Posted by: V | Nov 7 2018 6:39 utc | 65

After then put your hand on foam why typing and using the mouse. likbez | Nov 6, 2018 6:57:47 PM
I have my share of typos, but I cannot resist occasional fun. The best correction I can see is
After then put your hand on foam. Why typing and using the mouse?
In other words, do not touch the keyboard, do not touch the mouse, keep the hand on the foam and the shoulder will get better. I understand this sentiment, but one should not forget the proper exercises.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 7 2018 7:04 utc | 67

65
Not a single one of the widely-varying dozens of AGW projections (ergo, there is no ‘consensus’), not a single one of those ‘hard science’ specious futurology theories has been even remotely close to actual temperature or sea rise data, which proves, unequivocally, every one of those theories is FALSE, and false despite constant and unrepentant hindcasting re-tweeking, and $100Ms, if not $10Bs in Public Treasury funds wasted on public dole Scientocracy theoretical massagination … or are you a Denier like Trump, shouting FAKE NEWS and wearing AGW! emblazoned on your little green hat? Next you’ll be saying little green aliens stole the missing heat and are hiding it in the center of the earth, because, magma, lol.

Posted by: Anton Worter | Nov 7 2018 7:06 utc | 69

Personally, I think there is better than a 70% chance that the Trump campaign entered into a conspiracy with Russia […] Crowdstrike identified Russian hackers on the DNC computer including hacking “…into email accounts used by Clinton’s personal office “after hours” on 27 July 2016….” according to Mueller.
Posted by: craigsummers | Nov 6, 2018 5:09:34 PM | 20
Not only Crowdstrike identified Russians hacking Clinton, but Mueller found this identification worth to mention. And yet craigsummers gives only measly 70% for the chance of Trump-Putin conspiracy? Ye of little faith! Where is this doubt coming from?
Why 70% and not 7% or 77%? What is the probabilistic model here? Or 70% does not have anything with the calculus of probabilities but a marketing tactic: if craigsummers produced a number between 0 and 1 then he calculated something, so he thought deeply about it, so we should trust him.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Nov 7 2018 7:22 utc | 71

“Not a single one of the widely-varying dozens of AGW projections (ergo, there is no ‘consensus’), not a single one of those ‘hard science’ specious futurology theories has been even remotely close to actual temperature or sea rise data, which proves, unequivocally, every one of those theories is FALSE, and false despite constant and unrepentant hindcasting re-tweeking, and $100Ms, if not $10Bs in Public Treasury funds wasted on public dole Scientocracy theoretical massagination … or are you a Denier like Trump, shouting FAKE NEWS and wearing AGW! emblazoned on your little green hat? Next you’ll be saying little green aliens stole the missing heat and are hiding it in the center of the earth, because, magma, lol.”
this is completely wrong. you keep making these assertions but never bother to try to back them up with evidence. probably because there isn’t any. it isn’t a worldwide science plot, anymore than the moon landing or evolution or thermodynamics is a worldwide science plot.
and by the way christy is one of the few scientists that get trotted out regularly by the deniers, and he is usually wrong, as his papers get roundly criticised and are eventually ignored. as i said, the creationists had a few tame evolutionary biologists they would trot out regularly, but evolution is still good science.
pfft, the mann hockey stick study has been replicated repeatedly. you seem to be getting your bogus science and talking points from sites like wattsupwiththat, or jonova, or from other people that don’t know what they are talking about.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Nov 7 2018 10:05 utc | 73

Sorry, meant not Watts (instead of Mann)

Posted by: Pft | Nov 7 2018 11:53 utc | 75

@PFT and Pretzelattack, other global warming commenters,
There is a huge problem with all of these scientific papers (not just regarding global warming) released over the last 20 years. Almost 70% of these theses results cannot be independently replicated and/or verified.
FYI, after deep water horizon blew up, BP hired and put under contract almost every credible ocean biologist and put them under contract with the mandatory NDA included.
In a capitalist society, everything is for sale; ergo suspect, and scientists, like journalists, will write for their paycheck.
b4real

Posted by: b4real | Nov 7 2018 14:52 utc | 77

Check it out..The long arm of Ayn Rand, and why she still matters… in two parts. Interesting Canadian connection I was unaware of previously… also interesting how her Ideal’s as articulated by herself have been so perverted, informative time sink regardless as to your thoughts on Ayn.
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcasts/documentaries/the-best-of-ideas/

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Nov 7 2018 16:29 utc | 79

Macron’s promotion of Petain having a place of honor in the upcoming 100th anniversary of 11/11/1918 has reopened a feud about his proper place in French history.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 7 2018 19:53 utc | 81

james | Nov 7, 2018 9:14:24 PM | 84
The reports I’ve been reading say Israel has not attacked inside Syria since the S-300 delivery.
The only source saying otherwise is from the Israeli press.
I do not believe the Israelis…

Posted by: V | Nov 8 2018 3:57 utc | 83

these. they raised the price – possibly because they don’t wear out.
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001F42MKG/ezvid02-20

Posted by: rjj | Nov 8 2018 7:54 utc | 85

Mina, investigating UAE security was rather a foolish subject to do one’s PhD research on. Getting slung in prison for that could happen in a great many countries. His supervisor should have refused to let him do it. Most doctoral students are just happy-go-lucky, without thinking of the dangers of what they’re doing.

Posted by: Laguerre | Nov 8 2018 13:25 utc | 87

@85 V… yes, i believe that is correct and why israels lackey- the usa, is bemoaning the situation…
@89 laguerre.. i think it is admirable the phd research the kid was doing.. his mistake was to go to the uae where these mental and emotional invalids who run the uae could take advantage of the situation and have him incarcerated!! that the uk doesn’t stand up for him is more of the same..

Posted by: james | Nov 8 2018 16:22 utc | 89

According to a CGTN report on China’s recent Aerospace exhibition, China is developing a rocket which can put a 100 ton payload into Low Earth Orbit.
Google found this article which says the Long March 9 will be able to slot 140 tons into LEO and lesser loads into Moon-transit and Mars-transit orbits.
https://spacenews.com/china-reveals-details-for-super-heavy-lift-long-march-9-and-reusable-long-march-8-rockets/

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Nov 8 2018 18:55 utc | 91

I haven’t read the Macron speech, but I wonder whether his main point was not more to strengthen European independence by the call for a European force, to enable Europe to stand separately from “Russia, China, and the US”. That’s more his line.

Posted by: laguerre | Nov 8 2018 20:17 utc | 93

Laguerre @95–
Macron’s been touring France and its battlefields, Verdun being most recent. He’s attempting to begin an annual confab, the Paris Peace Forum, that Trump’s declined to attend, although he’ll be in Paris to meet with Putin at some point. In his critique of Macron, Husson had to cite what he said, so the article reveals the gist of Macron’s speech. Knowing Trump, it’s easy to see why he declined to attend the Forum as he’d need to acknowledge other national leaders as his peers, thus revealing his nonexceptionalism.
Unfortunately, The French President’s website’s only in French, and I didn’t see the speech transcript there anyway. The French press likely has it, again in French, but I wasn’t able to find anything other than recaps that focus on Petain, European Army, and immigrants. Hopefully, one of our French members will read this thread and help us out.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 8 2018 21:47 utc | 95

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Horseshoes. I personally know the story behind this because I was lead in the agency that regulated it. But first let’s get rid of your horseshoes. Every marine creature alive today survived CO2 levels 100x huligger than today as well as an ice age. The principal source of acidification is deep ocean vents. That acidification stays far below the hypolimnion thermocline, where few corals or shellfish exist. Monterey Bay Aquarium did research on these claims and found a natural diurnal variation of +/- a full pH, where the Scientocrats are talking 100ths.
In any case, the pH is constantly buffered by phytoplankton incorporating CO2 into their shells, creating a MEGATONS littoral drift of high oH carbonate, and if this were not fact, the oceans would have been rendered sterile in paleological history, when CO2 levels were 100x higher.
Now to The Precipitating Claim. As lead for shellfish facilities programming, my job included meeting with private growers who purchased shellfish spat from the State. Their problems were: silt from development, septage from seaside housing, pesticides and herbicides from private lawns, some kind of parasite several bacterial diseases, and red tide amplified by the above. No mention, EVER, Opt ocean acidification, until so ‘scientist’s, measuring pH in the estuary, naturally higher because of upstream peat bogs along the NW coast, came up with this acidification meme. So charged the shellfish grower hired the scientist to ‘find’ the problem, in a way attributable to ‘global warming’ (sic), so the grower could get bailed out by the State.
Ergo, peat bogs became ‘ocean acidification’, and all the shellfish growers lumped all their natural problems into Chairman Gire’s Carbon Tithe and Credit Scheme.
And that’s the rest of the story. Scientocrats gotta Scientocrat. It’s what they are paid to do. Looked-for data is not Science. Good day!

Posted by: Anton Worter | Nov 8 2018 22:57 utc | 97

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That’s all you Scientocrats got, is ignorant blind faith in your corpulent tobacco lobbyist Pope Albertus, and shrieking Burn the Heretic!, every time someone who actually is (was) a scientist, who was actually a lead on this science, who then kicks old Albertus in the nates. Troll! Denier! Burn him!
You are no different from the Deplorables and their slavish devolution to every fatwahah from that other corpulent bunk artist, Chairman Donaldus. Which is fine! God gave you the human freedom to choose ignorance and superstition, to follow Scientocracy and Meatless Fridays.
Like my rabbi friend used to joke when I wondered if it was a corporeal sin for my Catholic girlfriend to givemeablowjob on Meatless Fridays, he would laugh and say, Not if she didn’t swallow! Your problem is, pal, you swallowed,… hook, line and sinker.
Go ahead, tithe to Green Bejeebus all your heart desires, but just keep your Scientocratic paws out of my wallet.

Posted by: Anton Worter | Nov 9 2018 0:31 utc | 99