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November 20, 2018

U.S. Busts APEC Summit With Tariff Demands - New York Times Blames China

A New York Times report about last weekend's summit in Asia demonstrates how U.S. media misinform their readers about international events.

The recent summit of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) in Papua New Guinea failed to come up with a joint statement. Prime Minister Peter O’Neill of Papua New Guinea, who hosted the summit, promised to issue a "chair's statement" instead. None can be found so far on the APEC website. This was the first time since 1989 that no joined 'Leaders' Declaration' was issued.

The reason was a spat between the U.S. and China about a clause the U.S. tried to insert into the joint declaration.

But as the Times tells the story, the failure of the summit was solely China's fault:

At a major international gathering in Papua New Guinea over the weekend, the United States wanted to end with a group statement emphasizing free trade. China objected.

But instead of working out the disagreement through dialogue, Chinese officials barged uninvited into the office of the host country’s foreign minister demanding changes in the official communiqué.
“China doesn’t care if it looks like a boor. If you are a tough guy, you don’t care what others think,” said Hugh White, a former military strategist for the Australian government and author of “The China Choice.”

Such behavior was only surprising because it had been more than 30 years since the world had witnessed such edginess, Mr. White said.

The Chinese deny that the APEC incident happened at all. Mr. White seems to have missed the 2009 Copenhagen climate talks during which the U.S. president and his secretary of state boorishly busted a meeting, held by China, Brazil, India and others, they were not invited to join:

Once they found the makeshift conference room where the meeting was being held, Obama, Clinton, and their aides approached a "commotion" as she describes it — foreign aides and security guards outside the door. According to Clinton, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs confronted a Chinese guard. "In the commotion the president slipped through the door and yelled, 'Mr Premier!' really loudly, which got everyone's attention. The Chinese guards put their arms up against the door again, but I ducked under and made it through," Clinton wrote.

Back the NYT's APEC piece:

The American official said the Chinese had taken issue with two portions of the draft communiqué that Washington supported and other members embraced.

One paragraph said the APEC member economies agreed to fight against unfair trade practices. Another paragraph said that members of the group would work together to improve the “negotiating, monitoring and dispute settlement functions” of the World Trade Organization.

The NYT report does not say what the U.S. promoted paragraphs actually said. Nor does it quote any Chinese source. What are "unfair trade agreements"? What WTO changes were asked for? Why are these "improvements". Why is that supposed to be an APEC issue?

The AFP's has a way more informative take of the talks:

"You know the two big giants in the room. What can I say?" said host and Papua New Guinea Prime Minister Peter O'Neill, conceding defeat.
Sources said going into the meeting the United States had pressed for the leaders to issue what amounted to a denunciation of the World Trade Organization and a call for its wholesale reform. That demand was a step too far for Beijing, which would likely get less preferential treatment under any changes.
O'Neill indicated the WTO had been a sticking point in agreeing a joint communique.

"APEC has got no charter over the World Trade Organization. That is a fact," he said. "Those matters can be raised at the World Trade Organization."

The U.S. obviously pressed others to agree to WTO changes.

When China joined the WTO in 2001 its GDP per capita was less than $2,000. It was classified as a "developing country" which gave it some justified privileges. Eighteen years later China's GDP per capita is approaching $8,000. The U.S. GDP per capita is $53,000, while the EU's is about $37,000. China has certainly become more wealthy but it is still not a fully developed country. While the issue is not urgent it will have to be discussed and China is willing to do that.

But the issue that the U.S. pressed for was even more controversial.

AFP continues:

"Business leaders do not want to speak out, but behind the scenes here, they are talking over dinner saying 'how has this happened'?" Denis O'Brien, the billionaire chairman of Digicel told AFP.

"It's a very forced situation, one country is trying to force all the other countries to change tariffs agreed over years," O'Brien said.

What the U.S. actually tries to achieve is not only to break certain privileges China holds.

It wants to justify its punitive tariffs against China and other countries which are illegal under WTO rules. Trump's original plan was going even further. He considered a bill that would allow him to raise tariffs at will without congressional consent:

Nations are prohibited from setting different tariff rates for different countries outside of free trade agreements and the established tariff ceiling that WTO members have agreed to.

"It would be the equivalent of walking away from the WTO and our commitments there without us actually notifying our withdrawal," a source familiar with the bill told the outlet but added that Congress would never agree to the bill, describing it as “insane.”
Axios had reported that Trump had asked aides about pulling the U.S. out of the WTO, and said the world had used the organization to “screw the United States.”

The NYT is pointing in the wrong direction when it blames China of the failure of the APEC summit. It was the U.S. that tried to abuse the summit's joint statement by inserting clauses that a. to not belong within the frame of APEC and b. are an attempt to subvert internationally agreed trade rules.

It is certainly not only China that rejects the Trump administrations attempts to change the rule book for international trade that all WTO members have agreed to. The chair of the meeting agreed with the Chinese side in this. Any reference of WTO reform with the aim to change tariff rules is not an APEC issue and should have no place in its joint statement. The NYT readers though, will never learn this.

What the NYT defends as "emphasizing free trade" and as a "fight against unfair trade practices" is the exact opposite. The Trump administration tries to change trade rules so they would allow it to introduce tariffs as it wishes. The Trump administration does not want to "improve" the WTO, it wants to abolish it.  Its measures would destroy free trade.

The Trump administration will not be unhappy about the failed APEC summit. It is actively trying to thwart inner-Asian cooperation. It hopes to induce Asian countries to join its anti-China front. The NYT, it seems, is fully supportive of these moves.

Posted by b on November 20, 2018 at 16:57 UTC | Permalink


thanks b... why do you think the usa public remain so ignorant?? they are fed lies on a regular basis from the likes of nyt, wapo and wsj and all the lies always paint the usa out to be the good guy! they're not! economic bullies is what they are.. they live in an exceptional and increasingly rogue nation that wants to demand others around the world do as they say.. they have gone rogue..

Posted by: james | Nov 20 2018 17:13 utc | 1

Here is an article that looks at China's response to America's imposition of trade penalties:

Washington is definitely promoting its "win-lose" philosophy when it comes international trade, showing signs of desperation as it loses its status as the world's largest economy.

Posted by: Sally Snyder | Nov 20 2018 17:14 utc | 2

The moment any globalization cadre in government, media, academia mentions "trade" they immediately go full Orwellian.

So-called "free" trade is of course never anything but economically (and often militarily) coerced transactions at the great expense of the weaker party. The goal always is for the stronger to subjugate the weaker. (There was never any such thing as "comparative advantage"; the strong country always seeks absolute advantage on as wide a front as possible.) And the stronger party always bolsters its economic sectors with massive corporate welfare, so there too there's nothing "free" about it.

And then whenever the US accuses anyone else of "unfair trade practices" that automatically means the opponent is resisting the unfair gangster practices of the US.

(Unfortunately, even most critics and opponents of globalization and corporate rule still brainlessly use the enemy's term "free trade", without even the sarcastic quotation marks. Part of the rampant lack of terminological discipline.)

Posted by: Russ | Nov 20 2018 17:28 utc | 3

So for the NYT a zero sum game is "free trade" and a more balanced approach is "boorish". Got it. What's funny is how the NYT and corporate press on the one hand say Trump is the devil but on the other hand back many of his initiatives, including his huge tax giveaway to the very, very rich.

Posted by: worldblee | Nov 20 2018 17:49 utc | 4

The WTO was first proposed as the International Trade Organization at Bretton Woods in 1944, but Keynes was able to sideline it as it would have given the Outlaw US Empire far too much post-war power over international commerce; it was Keynes only victory at Bretton Woods. Refashioned and renamed WTO, its core existence as a US Imperial tool was camouflaged somewhat, but not enough. Ironically, 1999's Battle in Seattle massive protest against WTO stiffened the resolve of its members to use their power in numbers to defeat US initiatives and make the WTO more open, democratic and fairer, which is why the Outlaw US Empire vilifies it today--it no longer serves its purpose as a useful tool; even worse, it's become a tool to be used against it.

The Outlaw US Empire saying it supports free trade while erecting ever more protectionist barriers is a massive howler. Having off-shored so much of its industrial core, the USA's very much like a developing, pre-industrial nation in many respects, so free trade and WTO rules are no longer of any use to it, but that bolded truth cannot be uttered to the general public so BigLie Media's hired to publish--what else--BigLies. For me, the lies and alleged outburst are shrieks of panic announcing the failure of Neoliberalism by its core practitioners making it one of the biggest policy failures of all time.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 20 2018 17:57 utc | 5

I did say 'democratic' USA has been run by mafiasos from day one.

UNlike murikkans, I wont make any claim willy nilly unless I could back it up .

Exhibit 1

Looks like a thug....

Quacks like a thug....[2]

* "China is guilty of rampant intellectual property theft, forced technology transfer, restricted access to Chinese markets, respect for international rules and norms, efforts to limit freedom of navigation in international waters and Chinese Communist Party interference in the politics of Western countries.*

Walks like a thug....

Well then he must be ......!



Posted by: denk | Nov 20 2018 18:08 utc | 6

"The Trump administration does not want to "improve" the WTO, it wants to abolish it. Its measures would destroy free trade."

That is to Trump's credit. Like Germany, China is pursuing a mercantilist policy. Mercantilism benefits exporters and harms importers.

As for the legal issues, the U.S. constitution requires treaties to be ratified by 2/3 of the Senate. None of the corporate trade deals have met that constitutional requirement. They are undemocratic and unconstitutional, and bad policy.

Trump is not smart enough to have all the answers, but he is correct to call BS on free trade.

Posted by: Daniel A Lynch | Nov 20 2018 18:20 utc | 7

I see US showing its colours like this as a good thing. Much of Asia Pacific will turn more fully towards China and Russia for economic cooperation.
I see though Australia is putting up one point something billion to try and buy a bit of influence in the region, though they seem to have trouble finding that sort of money for social programs at home.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Nov 20 2018 18:23 utc | 8

wow...missed the reports of that meeting "crashing" when it happened. talk about the epitome of "entitled". if ray mcgovern or medea benjamin show half that chutzpah at a hearing or meeting they get dragged out by 20 security thugs.

as for trump pulling out of agreements and acting unilaterally, this just reminds me of his (and bolton's and pompeo's) recent "our iran sanctions are illegal under this treaty? then screw the goddamn treaty!" attitude. it's all part of the sad game of cowboys and indians LARP old conservative psychos love to play on the international stage. "we broke the law? we ARE the law!!!!"

once the respective tech sector and stock market ponzi schemes collapse on themselves reality might pimpslap these idiots into their proper place. or they'll just start a nuclear war.

Posted by: the pair | Nov 20 2018 18:28 utc | 9

I rarely read reports in the US MSM and when I do I assume the high probability that it's propaganda.

Great reporting here at MoA.

Posted by: AriusArmenian | Nov 20 2018 18:29 utc | 10

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 20, 2018 12:57:10 PM | 5

"the Outlaw US Empire vilifies [the WTO] today--it no longer serves its purpose as a useful tool; even worse, it's become a tool to be used against it."

The WTO's enforcement mechanisms are far too weak for the corporate taste: One's government sues over alleged "trade" barriers and wins the right to impose counter-barriers. But that often doesn't do much for the corporate sector which lobbied the government in the first place.

That's why the corporations vastly prefer the NAFTA model where the corporations can directly sue opponent governments in a World Bank tribunal under ISDS provisions and win massive cash "damages". The TPP and TTIP would have vastly expanded that corporate free-fire zone.

Posted by: Russ | Nov 20 2018 19:16 utc | 11

The US attacks China for its “non-market” eonomy reliant on state subsidies, yet the entire US high tech sector has achieved its dominance through massive state subsidies through the Defense Dept budget.

Posted by: jayc | Nov 20 2018 19:17 utc | 12

Meanwhile, a group of senescent US senators is trying to show their "superior morality" by blasting Russians for "harassing political opponents, dissidents, and journalists."

The "moralists" should have been more careful with their righteous bloviation, considering the indignity of the US harassment of Assange, the great journalist of our time.

The "most moral" group of the senatorial idiots and enemies of the First Amendment includes Roger Wicker, R-Miss., Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., Chris Coons, D-Del., and Marco Rubio, R-Fla.

Matthew 7:3: "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

Posted by: Anya | Nov 20 2018 19:44 utc | 13

Do look at the link in 6. Pence looks like a spinster who has been goosed in church. The old walrus Bolton looks positively human in comparison. A real hoot.

Posted by: Montreal | Nov 20 2018 20:01 utc | 14

@14 montreal... those pics from denk @6 are really quite pathetic... shows what losers the usa leaders are.. they could do that routine on all star wrestling and it might go over good, but they look like complete ignoramus's doing it on the world stage as politicians... clearly the usa as a country with it's leadership has gone off the rails never to return.. you can only raise the military industrial complex's budget so much before people question your sanity and your priorities.. they sure ain't christian.. that much is clear..

Posted by: james | Nov 20 2018 20:10 utc | 15

Seconding Montreal's comment @ 14 for everyone to check the links in Denk's comment @ 6. Pence looks as if he's just stepped out of a session in which Botox was first applied to all of his face and then he was subjected to an intense blast of radiation at a solarium while recovering from the surgery to hide the scars.

No wonder Bolton quickly had to show up beside Pence, to smooth over any etiquette gaffes on Pence's part, in case Putin got the wrong impression that all American politicians these days look like overfed and overweight Ken doll robots.

What's the US coming to when a war-hawk like Bolton is needed to cool down any tensions?

Posted by: Jen | Nov 20 2018 21:53 utc | 16

@Posted by: Montreal | Nov 20, 2018 3:01:19 PM | 14

But Pence has always that look, he stares at everybody the same way.....
Are you sure he is not a robot? That face without any hint of expression, those arms along the body immobile...the body so rigid....that hair which does not ever trace of change of temperature on his sweat...

I wonder whether he could be one of these...grown up

Posted by: Sasha | Nov 20 2018 22:02 utc | 17

I’m was for ending the WTO, always was against it. However, knowing Trump and his controllers, what they have in mind to replace it is likely far worse. Change isnt always a good thing. The evil you know may be better than an unknown evil.

The clocks running on Trumps Presidency, hopefully. Just run out the clock and hope for a change for the better (dont count on it).

In the meantime maybe one of these leaders can call for a Jubilee . Should be an interesting discussion. Not expecting it though

Posted by: Pft | Nov 20 2018 22:05 utc | 18

Peter AU 1 @ 8: The amount of money Sco-Mo is trying to squeeze out of our schools, hospitals, public transport infrastructure and family-owned / operated farms to compete with China in the South Pacific region is A$3 billion.

But don't worry, most of that money will probably never end up actually benefiting Pacific Island nations in any significant way - most likely it will appear in Canberra politicians' election campaign chests yet again.

Posted by: Jen | Nov 20 2018 22:14 utc | 19

Montreal @ 14, Sasha @ 17: Why didn't I see it before? Pence is a ventriloquist's dummy! No wonder Bolton had to be close by - it was his turn to feed the dummy its lines!

Posted by: Jen | Nov 20 2018 22:17 utc | 20

The alleged incident occurred at the APEC-CEO Conference in Papua New Guinea--NOT--the ASEAN Summit in Singapore. Medvedev was at APEC; Putin was at ASEAN. Certain blogs don't watch what they say or how they tag their article's URLs, while some so-called reporters can't be bothered to know which conference they're writing about, and their CIA handlers are just as ignorant.

Hopefully b will write a short post ridiculing Trump's accusations and support of MbS.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 20 2018 22:19 utc | 21

"the failure of the summit was solely China's fault"

I just can't believe Amerikas spoke person left Russia out;-)

Thanks b

Posted by: jo6pac | Nov 20 2018 22:48 utc | 22


The role of the US government, both through direct subsidy, turning a blind eye to illegal practices, and skewing regulations and legislation, is to funnel money to several economic sectors: high tech, arms manufacturing, oil industries, medical insurance, and finance.

That's what it does.

Posted by: Castellio | Nov 20 2018 23:11 utc | 23


and big agro-business... how did I forget that?

Posted by: Castellio | Nov 20 2018 23:14 utc | 24

Fortunately, other national leaders attended APEC and have had some of their remarks published in English. RoK President Moon's one leader in the international spotlight. He emphasized the shared Korean future vision:

"He particularly concentrated on introducing Seoul’s national vision of an 'innovative, inclusive state where all people prosper together .... What the Korean government means by being inclusive is that no one should be excluded from society. It should be extended to achieving inclusive growth, inclusive society and inclusive democracy.'

"'If we narrow the gap among the APEC member countries and ensure fair opportunities and mutually beneficial cooperation, we will be able to coprosper and co-develop.'"

Sounds like a very Socialist vision to me--Win-Win inclusiveness or a sort that's anathema to the Outlaw US Empire's Zero-sum anti-inclusiveness. No wonder Pence's mind couldn't handle the content.

Also, here're a few bits of information from the ASEAN and East Asia Summits I haven't seen mentioned anywhere:

"Other noticeable results can be found from the agreement between ASEAN and Korea to host the ASEAN-Korea special summit next year, and the idea of inviting North Korean leader Kim Jong Un to the ASEAN-Korea special summit next year proposed by Indonesian President Joko Widodo.

"Cheong Wa Dae Spokesperson Kim Eui-kyeom said in a press briefing that 'Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said that sanctions need to be eased if we can observe North Korea’s commitment to honoring the agreement in his address at the East Asia Summit.' The presidential spokesperson said that 'Leaders of the EAS shared the common understanding that denuclearization should be carried out in a peaceful manner.'"

Events and attitudes are not favoring the Outlaw US Empire, so it's no wonder its BigLie Media yet again lies about most everything.

Posted by: karlof1 | Nov 20 2018 23:15 utc | 25

Be on the look out for Judith Judy Miller @ NYT's ; She's got blood on her hands. Changed her name because she was and is a cheerleader for war crimes.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 21 2018 0:05 utc | 26

Be on the look out for Judith Judy Miller @ NYT's ; She's got blood on her hands. Changed her name because she was and is a cheerleader for war crimes.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Nov 21 2018 0:05 utc | 27

Interesting how the NYT, which according to our reality shows script has sided with the so called Deep State (improperly defined as limited to entrenched bureaucrats ) against Trump , in this case sides with Trump against China.

Fake conflicts are entertaining but its when all sides agree that the real game is exposed

Posted by: Pft | Nov 21 2018 0:40 utc | 28

Pence is a wind up toy that has STUPID written across his forehead. It is an apt advertisement. And then you have the buffoon Bolton who wouldn't make a pimple on a good man's ass. It's like Laurel and Hardy. Hilarious little couple they are.

Posted by: Skip | Nov 21 2018 1:02 utc | 29

fukus has expanded its 'monroe doctrine' to the entire planet.
From Africa to Asia to SouthPacific, Asean, Apec,SAARC [South Asia caucas]....Chinese presence is being subverted, sabotaged and denied by a concerted campaign of the 5lies. [1]

b just highlighted the role of fukus the spoiler.
If I cant have it my way, I'll bust up the party.

'The ruling class behaves much like a spoiled child, if they don't get to have everything their way all of the time, they throw this massive temper tantrum and threaten to upset the whole game. They have gotten their way in everything for so long that they have fallen under the spell of their own propaganda.'

Asean has failed to produce an official communique for many years, ever since fukus gate crashed the party and insisted on bossing it around ., forcing ite members to choose side.

Posted by: denk | Nov 21 2018 4:17 utc | 30

5lies sure fits better than five-eyes.

Opabinia regalis
The head shows unusual features: five eyes, a mouth under the head and facing backwards, and a proboscis that probably passed food to the mouth. Opabinia probably lived on the seafloor, using the proboscis to seek out small, soft food.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Nov 21 2018 4:58 utc | 31

More like the one eye of Sauron. One gov. to rule them all.
Uncle Samwise Gamjee to the rescue.

Posted by: dan | Nov 21 2018 5:44 utc | 32

Bernhard - I'm not sure how closely you've followed Q - but something new has happened from Q.

I'd ask you to hold your well warranted scepticism on QAnon for 2 more weeks.

Q has FINALLY nominated a date.

December 5 is the date QAnon has nominated. And not recently - since May - and repeatedly.

Future proves past as Q has often said.

Post 2494 - November 20, 2018. D5 is revealed to mean December 5.

So when has D5 been mentioned before by QAnon?

Read all these posts and make your own mind up about December 5.

Post 1332 - May 10, 2018. D5.
Post 1401 - May 17, 2018. D5.
Post 1433 - May 21, 2018. D5.
Post 1743 - July 28, 2018. D5.
Post 1816 - August 5, 2018. D5.
Post 1978 - August 28, 2018. D5.
Post 2096 - September 5, 2018. D5.
Post 2275 - September 24, 2018. D5.
Post 2332 - October 4, 2018. D5.
Post 2333 - October 4, 2018. D5.
Post 2494 - November 20, 2018. D5.
Post 2498 - November 20, 2018. D5.

Sundance - and all others on this board - there has been a big argument about the legitimacy or otherwise of Q. Q has finally FINALLY nominated a date to prove or disprove whether Q is on Trump’s side or some kind of LARP.

I think it’s fair to say - if nothing comes of December 5 - discussion of Q should henceforth be banned.

But - is anything set to happen on December 5?

John Huber?!?!?!?

We shall see. I’d ask you to analyse this Sundance. I think this is worth a post to put Q on the line.

Make or break time for Q

December 5.

Posted by: Julian | Nov 21 2018 12:24 utc | 33

My apologies Bernhard.

In my excitement at finally having a firm date to judge Q by I forgot to re-edit that post - as I had posted it elsewhere before. Please feel free to edit it if you so wish - or remove it.

Posted by: Julian | Nov 21 2018 12:26 utc | 34

Harper has a good article up at SST, neocon influence at the White House may finally be entering the decline stage, my paraphrasing of the result.

Posted by: morongobill | Nov 21 2018 14:37 utc | 35

“China doesn’t care if it looks like a boor. If you are a tough guy, you don’t care what others think,” said Hugh White, a former military strategist for the Australian government and author of “The China Choice.”

Perfectly describes Trump. And I'm a Trump supporter, BTW.

Posted by: Fidelios Automata | Nov 21 2018 15:13 utc | 36

For all those interested in what "Q Anon" has to say I have an important announcement:

The world is flat! It is proven.

Oh and one other thing, I have a very nice bridge for sale, only 1 US Dollar. 2 miles long, includes 2000 acres of land. Real offer, no catch.

For everybody else: Otherwise.

Posted by: BM | Nov 21 2018 15:41 utc | 37

The latest 'collateral damage' of the deadly 5lies
smear campaign....The yellow peril.

tip of an iceberg

Posted by: denk | Nov 21 2018 17:42 utc | 38

Here's 'milder' case of assault, this time, the collateral happens to be a Korean yank, the hapless man was mistaken for a chink.

Other cases...
chinese female tourist haranged by a white woman in murikkan, 'bitch, go back to your own country'

Chinese female tourist slapped by a white man while waiting for bus in Oz...

Chinese students assaulted by a group of white thugs in Oz...


There'r tons of similar cases,

coincidentally, vast majority occured in the 5lies domain.
Im too shackled to search for it , besides I dont wanna spam this site with an avalanche of links.

BUt you get the drift.

why'r such assaults singling out Chinese for attack in the 5lies land ?

Could it has anything to do with the incessant
demonisation by the 5lies tptb and their presstitudes sycophants ?

The Chinese rob all our jobs
They hack all our secrets,
They steal all our tech,
They'r a threat to our national security,
They meddle in all western elections,
They threaten the 5lies rule based system,
They dont respect international law and sovereinty,,,

Ian Fleming's law of probability applies.
These are enemy actions

In short,
The yellow peril is back.
[more mistaken identity, the yellow hordes that
terrorised the Euros were Mongolians, but now
the Hans, the bogeyman de jour, take the blame.]

Still on mistaken identity,
Back in the 80's , jp is the bogeyman.
At that time Jp was the rising star that threatened to displace murikkan preeminence.
Sounds familiar ?
The book 'Jp as no 1' sent a cold chill down the 5lies spine.

Same demonisation, same shit,.
'The japs rob our jobs'

works like a charm,
The sheeples were always ready to slay
the bogeyman de jour.

BUt it was a Chinese from tw who became the first collateral damage of that yellow peril scare.
Chin was drinking with some friends in a cafe one fine day in 1984, two out of job murikkan car workers thought he's one of those 'japs who rob our jobs', they bludgeoned Chin to death with baseball bats.
They got away scot free.

Chin's last words before his death...
'Its so unfair'

Chin's killers are prolly prowling on the street looking for those 'chicoms who rob all our jobs' these days.

Posted by: denk | Nov 22 2018 5:07 utc | 39

Queer Anon makes for nice intellectual exercise in non-linear thinking, but what is achieved
besides psychological gratification after exiting the formulaic labyrinth?
There is no 'there' there, no meat on the 2D bones. It's a hall of mirrors.
"WWSHD?" What Would Sherlock Holmes Do?

Posted by: Mishko | Nov 22 2018 18:46 utc | 40

The latest 'collateral damage' of the deadly 5lies
smear campaign....The yellow peril.

tip of an iceberg
Posted by: denk | Nov 21, 2018 12:42:16 PM

The Anglo American Empire is aggressively pushing Sinophobia (along with Russophobia) as part of their Two Minutes of Hate Campaign against Eurasia in general.

That is ultimately what drives these thinly disguised racist campaigns by North America, Britain, Australia, or their "democratic" vassal nations.

The Anglo American World Order that has existed since the collapse of the USSR is being challenged by Eurasia (Russia, China, Iran, and others).

Hence, the Anglo Americans are propagandizing their masses to accept Cold Wars and indeed nuclear Hot War versus Eurasia.

It is very Orwellian.

Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia/East Asia!

Posted by: ak74 | Nov 25 2018 20:58 utc | 41

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