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September 06, 2018

Syria - Mattis Lacks State Department's Intelligence ... On Al-Qaeda's Chemical Capabilities

The U.S. Secretary of Defense seems to lack the intelligence the Un and the U.S. Department of State obviously have.

U.S.'s Mattis says 'zero intelligence' that rebels in Syria's Idlib have chemical weapons capability

New Delhi (Reuters) - There was “zero intelligence” of chemical weapons capabilities possessed by groups opposing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in the province of Idlib, U.S. Defence Secretary Jim Mattis said, adding that the facts did not back Russian assertions.
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We have zero intelligence that shows the opposition has any chemical capability,” Mattis told reporters traveling with him to the Indian capital of New Delhi.
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“We have made very clear that by putting out innuendo that somehow any chemical weapon use coming up in the future could be ascribed to the opposition, well, we want to see the data,” Mattis said. “We cannot see anything that indicates the opposition has that capability.

On October 18 2017 the U.S. State Department issued a travel warning for Syria:


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It says in the third paragraph (pic):

Terrorist and other violent extremist groups including ISIS and al-Qa’ida-linked Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (dominated by al-Qa’ida affiliate Jabhat al-Nusrah, a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization), operate in Syria. In July 2017, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham consolidated power in Idlib province after it clashed with other armed actors. [...] Tactics of ISIS, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, and other violent extremist groups include the use of suicide bombers, kidnapping, small and heavy arms, improvised explosive devices, and chemical weapons. ...

The UN also knows of and is similar concerned about Hayat Tahrir al-Sham's chemical weapon capabilities. During a press conference on August 30 the UN Special Envoy for Syria, Staffan de Mistura, explicitly discussed these:

So, the issue of avoiding the potential use of chemical weapons is indeed crucial and would be totally unacceptable. We all are aware that both the government and al-Nusra have the capability to produce weaponised chlorine, that’s the one people are talking about, not sarin. Hence an increased concern by all of us, and everyone else, and alert.

There is no doubt that HTS and other such groups have chemical capabilities. They do.

Why is Mattis lying about it?

Posted by b on September 6, 2018 at 06:25 AM | Permalink

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"US President Donald Trump has denied assertions by prominent journalist Bob Woodward in his new book that he ordered the assassination of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad." BBC.

Posted by: Maracatu | Sep 6, 2018 6:38:15 AM | 1

It is all part of the precrime effort. If we plan to bomb the Syrians, there has to be some plausible deniability even if it's not plausible.

Posted by: Joseph Moroco | Sep 6, 2018 6:43:59 AM | 2

Clear psyop going on in western msm with quotes from Nikki Haley:

Psychic Haley knows ‘exactly’ who’s responsible for the next chemical attack in Syria
https://www.rt.com/usa/437737-haley-idlib-chemical-attack/

Posted by: Zanon | Sep 6, 2018 6:46:04 AM | 3

Or we can interpret this as Mattis thinking chlorine shouldn't be considered a major chemical weapon and shouldn't be included into WMDs that deserve punishment - it's so easily made and has a limited efficiency. Granted, I'm optimistic here.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Sep 6, 2018 6:53:33 AM | 4

"We have zero intelligence that shows the opposition has any chemical capability."

Just take this statement literally and it is easy to understand;

They have zero intelligence.
And that shows the opposition has any chemical capability.

See? It's easy.

Posted by: Perimetr | Sep 6, 2018 6:57:39 AM | 5

With the start of the long awaited Syrian liberation of Idlib, the UZA are clearly trying to reinforce the propagander ie-- Russia, Syria are the bad guys. There doing this right now so that they can then paint eny sucsess Syria may have as a negative and not a posative !
The moral of the story is--- when you start to lie you have to keep lying to cover it up, slowly digging ya self deeper and deeper. Ending in insanity ! Pretty much where us uk are now. They'l be gageing public apathy/gulabilty to decide there next move plus seeing which other county's will or will not support US UK aggression.
Oh what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive !!!

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 6, 2018 7:11:18 AM | 6

Of course the US Defense Secretary lacks the intelligence that the US State Department has. Foggy Bottom has always been a law unto itself.

Remember when Victoria Nuland jetted over to Ukraine to offer the Maidanauts her very own home-baked cookies? Did she have any authorisation from the White House (or even from the US State Secretary at the time) to do that? Or to commit US$5 billion to regime change in that forsaken country?

The US government and its various departments are a hydra whose heads are at ... well, loggerheads with one another.

And surely the Pentagon has its own intel agency (the DIA) to tell Mad Dog Mattis what he needs to know.

Posted by: Jen | Sep 6, 2018 7:20:26 AM | 7

@ b
Why is Mattis lying about it?

because Abu Yacub al-Israeli does not want to be found living amongst HTS.
or Netanyahu has not divulged to Trump how his spies have managed to infiltrate the "rebels' in Idlib.

Just kidding but will sell well inside the beltway and amongst the MSM and talking heads in NYC/DC :-)
UNGA is coming soon and Bibi will need another Red Line on his KABOOM nuclear board during his 15 mins presentation

Posted by: Yul | Sep 6, 2018 7:40:07 AM | 8

Is Mattis next to get fired?

Posted by: AG17 | Sep 6, 2018 7:54:35 AM | 9

"Why is Mattis lying about it?"

Presumably to keep in practice.

It would be worthy of comment if someone in Washington inadvertently told the truth.

Posted by: Tom Welsh | Sep 6, 2018 8:09:20 AM | 10

Mad Dog Mattis murdered Falujah with chemicals. White phosphorus is permitted for warfare for purposes of "illumination" only. They use that giant loophole to burn people to death or disfigurement - civilians - including women and children, of course.

Posted by: fastfreddy | Sep 6, 2018 8:33:45 AM | 11

At lest one Amerikan isn't listening.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/president-assad-meets-virginia-state-senator-richard-black-in-damascus/

Posted by: jo6pac | Sep 6, 2018 8:41:52 AM | 12

it seems the french are with us and today stated that assad will be bombed by the french if he uses his weapons of terror.

he mystery is simple
all these story are connected and part of a bigger russian syrian iranian conspiracy
destabilise team uk and usa wrong foot them .in country within the homelands and out.
putin new hitler and animal assad are out of control in idlib out of control in this england.
these chemiculls
are a a defense of the realm matter.
i agree with the many gchq,mi chaps westminster chaps here hare here.
israel must not be pushed into the sea by animal assad and new hitler putin we must stop the idlib.
and the russians need to feel the wrath of cia mi6 british french norway polish armies.
we can prevail it is all about belief.
would dunkirk have been v for victory without churchills beliefs and indefatigability.
oded yinon can only move forward with the french behind us we can with macron may and trumped
react to the next chemical assad horror coming soon to bbc murdoch and cnn.
anderson coopers is ready are you.
join the army and lets sort this out once and for all times

Posted by: menechem golani | Sep 6, 2018 8:47:27 AM | 13

He does not lye.
He reports.
He reports that he succesfully destroyed all the evidence he could reach and now has zero left.

Posted by: Arioch | Sep 6, 2018 8:59:08 AM | 14

Were they legal, chemical weapons would be useful in some battle scenarios, but not a single report on chemical weapon use in Syria involves such a scenario. For example, fighting in urban enclaves was hindered by extensive tunnel networks. Although if you want to kill people in a tunnel, you can detonate thermobaric explosive and rely on shock waves. Chemical weapons were effective in WWI against opponents in deep trenches, but modern conventional weapons hit trenches (extensively used in Syria) much more accurately and damagingly. Even as a "demoralizing weapon", CW is not more terrifying than, say, heavy thermobaric bombs. There are used purely for political distraction.

It is similar in the murky assassination case in Wiltshire. Regular weapons, knives, darts, firearms, martial arts etc. can kill people very reliably, take as a recent example the killing of a Palestinian professor in Malaysia that was indubitably work of Israel, two guys on a motorcycle shooting the victims many times and riding away. If you want to be less flashy, say, in bucolic Wiltshire, you could use a quieter way, e.g. knock politely on the door and sink a dagger in the throat. And if you want to use chemicals, there are dozens of proven formulations and methods, and smearing stuff on door handles is not one of them.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 6, 2018 9:29:27 AM | 15

Mattis is about the only force protecting DJT from blackops/CIA/Deep State and if the president has any sense, he knows that. I use the word force intentionally. Mattis isn't one of the perfumed princes, he smashes things and he's damned good at it. Trump needs this man now more than ever. Fire Mattis or have the troops thinking he was treated in less than an honorable fashion, and there goes one of the legs of support for the president.

Posted by: morongobill | Sep 6, 2018 9:39:51 AM | 16

The French have been waking up for 2 weeks with the mention of Idlib on the news bulletin... Nazi propaganda methods are probably taught in journalists and marketing schools today.

Posted by: Mina | Sep 6, 2018 11:28:58 AM | 18

i am with fastfreddy @11...
mattis who was responsible for the murder of countless innocent people in fallujah thanks to the use of white phosphorous and depleted uranium, is not willing to acknowledge his own murderous past, or the murderous agenda of his countries regime change game here... he and the usa/uk/ksa/israel and etc, are quite happy to let their sicko moderate headchoppers use chemical weapons to run the false flag up the pole as many times as needed.. they are one sick group and mattis is no different... these are the types who have come to represent the usa armed forces... sorry pat lang - but the shit has to stop.. the usa has it's head up it's ass and no amount of honouring the flag or your troops changes any of it..

Posted by: james | Sep 6, 2018 12:23:26 PM | 19

Mattis has zero credibility, particularly after reading his National Defense Strategy. Please give careful consideration to the multiple prevarications within this paragraph he either authored or approved:

"China is a strategic competitor using predatory economics to intimidate its neighbors while militarizing features in the South China Sea. Russia has violated the borders of nearby nations and pursues veto power over the economic, diplomatic, and security decisions of its neighbors. As well, North Korea’s outlaw actions and reckless rhetoric continue despite United Nation’s censure and sanctions. Iran continues to sow violence and remains the most significant challenge to Middle East stability. Despite the defeat of ISIS’s physical caliphate, threats to stability remain as terrorist groups with long reach continue to murder the innocent and threaten peace more broadly."

Why chemical weapons? I refer you to the initial narrative raising the issue of Weapons of Mass Destruction which was immediately announced upon the declaration of The New World Order, as it was to be used as leverage to overthrow governments and generate Genocidal Sanctions--remember dual-use was used to deny Iraqi importation of chlorine to purify its water after the Outlaw US Empire's War Crime that deliberately destroyed the civilian water treatment system. BigLie Media's been very compliant by neglecting mention that Syria verifiably--and signed off also by Outlaw US Empire--had its chemical weapons stocks destroyed, which ought to be added as a caveat to every statement by Haley et al on the subject but isn't for obvious reasons.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 6, 2018 12:32:40 PM | 20

Fortunately for Mattis, it really doesn't matter anymore in the US if you tell the truth or not unless you're caught on camera using bad language or groping someone. For that, your career will be over. But murdering people with white phosphorus, invading other countries, those are all fiiiine.

Posted by: worldblee | Sep 6, 2018 12:43:44 PM | 21

So the big question is will they or won't they ?
Engage with Putin and Assad ! What would be the tipping points ? They say chemicals, but really come on ! Like last time, why would Syria do that ? He does'nt need to. Nothing to gain by that at all. So as we know UZA would do it ! They All ready did (track record)
Back to the question --- if us want to engage they would be the ones to use Chem. One angle is financial, the war /killing machine industry (out of control) . Empire building following the Hitler script. Domestic gains, us politics are a shambles (uk to) give the public an outside enemy---Russia !
My conclusion ? Fear the worst !!!

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 6, 2018 12:46:40 PM | 22

Looks like it might be a bit of a race to see who can use the looming "9th September, 2018" opportunity as a symbolic "9/11 3.0" niche for global communications and control by way of resonating metaphor. My guess is the Russians on the Plains (Planes) of Syria in about 5 days (+/-2).

Posted by: imo | Sep 6, 2018 1:22:35 PM | 23

YES,
The fact is established:

May's declarations as far as poisoning is concerned has been met by the
approval of France and the USA that second the motion, whose logical
conclusion is a renewal of sanctions against Russia, undermining its
position in the UNSC and ,-the outcome seems inevitable- WAR!

Russia would be well advised to lob a few at England, and France and
the US if it wants to survive.

Blasting London would certainly be a blow to the banksters cartel
holed up there.

Posted by: CarlD | Sep 6, 2018 1:37:37 PM | 24

Previous fake chemical attacks have coincided with important events related to Syrian conflict. Tomorrow there're two--the UNSC meeting and the Summit in Tehran between Russia, Turkey and Iran both occur, albeit quite a few hours apart. Meanwhile, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Moallem reminded those listening that the threats to attack Syria by FUKUS are illegal because contrary to UN Charter.

With all the pics and videos being shown made by Syrian intel behind terrorist lines in Idlib, it would seem that more than enough are present to thwart the false flag event if it's tried. Such a move would be a spectacular coup particularly if it was documented by video while negating terrorist's effort so it could be shoved in the face of the primary Terrorist--the Outlaw US Empire.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 6, 2018 1:43:40 PM | 25

Today Khamenei held a session of The Assembly of Experts. Please note the opulence of their meeting chamber! The topic was the West's BigLie propaganda campaign. The viciousness of some of the replies on the Twitter thread certainly violate the terms of agreement, so I wonder if Twitter will immediately cease their services as its done to others for lesser affronts? His words are carefully chosen as usual and are meant to bolster Iranian morale, but I wonder what average Iranians think when they hear him?

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 6, 2018 2:04:07 PM | 26

Impressive example of adversarial journalism there Reuters

Posted by: GM | Sep 6, 2018 2:14:05 PM | 27

What the battle maps don't show is the local terrain in detail. Here we are provided such a look at the hills surrounding the key town of Jisr Al-Shughour prior to them being fortified. Fortunately, Idlib is mostly plains/steepe. The terrain reminds me of Korea.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 6, 2018 2:22:51 PM | 28

Karlofi 26

You must be being ironic:

"The opulence of their chambers"

this is the strictest and barest chamber one can contrive.

Posted by: CarlD | Sep 6, 2018 2:46:23 PM | 29

Karlofi @ 28
Good info links their thanks. Something tells me we're going to need detailed knowledge like that very soon !
At this stage a word comes to mind !--- what we have here is ' Brinkmanship ' bit like the Cuban missile crises, but hopefully with out threat of nukes, (long may that last)
Make no mistake I'm on Putin/ Assad side ! A while ago he stated Russia is like a powerful Spring ! If you keep pushing it, at some stage it will fly back and hit you full in the face.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 6, 2018 2:54:31 PM | 30

The jihadist mongrels are getting ready, they know its do or die. Lets hope common sense persevere in the US. We dont want the se jihadist scum to survive, we want them to die. I am to old to go fighting, and I did my lot in Angola, but that was another war at another time.
Europe has taken in a massive amount of refugees, mostly good people in of a place not to be shot at. I personally know about 22 in Malmoe where I live.
Good people, I hope they stay , Syrians and Libyans, well educated and secular, with a broader knowledge of the world than most Swedes. I hope they stay here, we need bright young people. Our own young people are mostly ignorant and the rest are plain stupid. Cousin-cousin marriages.
But the Alliance needs to break the back of the demon, better now than sooner, the world will only heal when the US is Vernichtet.
Wollem wir der totaler krig gegen kapitalismus und seiner freunde! Ja!
Der vernichtung der heime die kapitalismus, USA, sind einer globale befreiung!
I have to use German more often , it has got such power.
And before you are up in arms , I am a card bearing socialist, so FO. I am no blairite but from the school of Albin and palme.

Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Sep 6, 2018 2:56:34 PM | 31

The reason Mattis said it is very simple in my mind.

If the US MI says that the 'rebels' don't have any chemical weapons ability then if any is used it has to be by the Syrian Government. So its all clear to attack without waiting to check the evidence.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 6, 2018 2:59:11 PM | 32

worldblee @ 21 said in part:"it really doesn't matter anymore in the US if you tell the truth or not unless you're caught on camera using bad language or groping someone. For that, your career will be over."

Unless, of course you're the POTU$..

Posted by: ben | Sep 6, 2018 3:16:27 PM | 33

#that or he is simply blind.

If he is even asking about iranian moral shows that he doesnt get how iranians work

Posted by: Occidentosis | Sep 6, 2018 3:18:11 PM | 34

Hey den Lille Abe @ 31
All good stuff there ! Could you shed eny light on a German word for me it's --- Rechtsstaat ' is this the magic cure i'v been searching for to cure the worlds extreme right wing ill's !!! And if so what does it meen. !!!

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 6, 2018 3:18:32 PM | 35

The previous comment was about karlofi's comment

Posted by: Occidentosis | Sep 6, 2018 3:19:14 PM | 36

Karlofi @ 25

"With all the pics and videos being shown made by Syrian intel behind terrorist lines in Idlib, it would seem that more than enough are present to thwart the false flag event if it's tried. Such a move would be a spectacular coup particularly if it was documented by video while negating terrorist's effort so it could be shoved in the face of the primary Terrorist--the Outlaw US Empire."


karlof1 I consider you one of the better posters here on MoA - high content posts without unnecessary blather.

However, I think your comment above is absurdly naive.

The last faked 'chemical attack' staged by Al-Qaeda/White Helmets was nothing more than men running into a hospital shouting 'chemical attack' and running around spraying water into patients faces with someone using a cellphone to record.

One of the boys who was from the faked video was tracked down and shown to be fine and said there was no chemical attack along with interviews with local residents who all claimed there was no attack.

Absolutely silence in the legacy mainstream media. And universally they still refer to this sickeningly fake event as 'previous Assad chemical attacks' in their stories.

If Russia or Syria arrested the UK operatives along with their Al-Qaeda/White Helmets along with surveillance film of them planning or carrying out another fake chemical attack the legacy mainstream media would completely and utterly ignore. Zero coverage.

For the legacy mainstream media to report on a faked chemical attack would mean they would have to walk back on the entire seven year narrative lie they have been responsible for. That is not going to happen ever.

Posted by: Shon | Sep 6, 2018 3:29:28 PM | 37

CarlD @29--

Yes, guilty as charged. But that's as it ought to be given Islam's essence as an attempt at leveling social strata. In stark contrast, I bet the Saudi version shares features similar to a Kremlin ballroom. I'm sure you noted Khamenei's reference to The Revolution in his exhortation as it's now considered an ongoing, living/breathing entity within Iranian culture. The reason for the containment of Iran is essentially the same as for the strangulation of Vietnam's War for Independence--the threat of a Good Example.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 6, 2018 3:30:47 PM | 38

Karlofi 38

Speaking about the opulence of the Kremlin, when Putin goes up these
long stairways and gilded walls, I wonder what is underneath these stairs?
is it just filler?

Anyway, you are right about the Kremlin. However it has to be said
that even the Metro is utterly magnificent.

Posted by: CarlD | Sep 6, 2018 3:40:57 PM | 39

Shon @37--

Thanks for your compliments! Actually, the last false flag was caught on camera and quick, excellent analysis proved it to be what it was, and rapidly spread worldwide via social media and internet. No, it didn't prevent the war crime attack, but it greatly degraded the credibility of all who backed White Helmet terrorists, particularly BigLie Media.

If one looks at the global credibility of Trump, May and Macron, it's very close to zero except for their raving base. To be caught in the act of causing the False Flag on video then uploaded and disseminated globally before or simultaneously with the video released by the terrorists would further destroy the credibility of anyone supporting the terrorists while provided powerful evidence as to the criminality of any reprisal attack done by FUKUS. My point is not that BigLie Media can be silenced; rather, that it can be further proven to be what it is--BigLie Media--while further degrading what little credibility remains for terrorist supporters.

Of course, the entire scenario is somewhat of a pipe dream. I'm sure Syria, Russia, Iran, Hezbollah, and Turkey have decided what they'll do in response to any False Flag and any subsequent illegal attack. What remains unknown of course is the robustness of their response--hopefully, we'll never find out. Unfortunately, I think Assad may no longer have any patience/restraint remaining in attacking the Outlaw US Empire's terrorist occupation forces as in Three Strikes, You're Out! IMO, the situation's becoming more dangerous as we near the end of the conflict.

Again, thanks for your comment!

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 6, 2018 4:00:07 PM | 40

Key phrase: “We have zero intelligence . . . .”

Posted by: Eddie | Sep 6, 2018 4:12:51 PM | 41

@fastfreddy 11, james 19

I followed that assault on Fallujah very closely at the time. Remember that the US Marines had tried to take over the town some months before but met with very fierce resistance and were chased out of town. Therefore there was an element of revenge and also punishment about this second assault. First they occupied the civilian hospital on the outskirts of Fallujah (a war crime). They then systemically bombed and destroyed the power station, the water pumping station and the sewage works (all war crimes).
Then as you point out they used white phosphorous munitions (a war crime), but there was something peculiar in the immediate aftermath. Having eventually successfully subdued the town, US troops went around the central area and systematically shot out, and thus drained, all the water towers (these were numerous as many houses had them). Then military bulldozers moved in and removed all the topsoil from a couple of square kilometres. This led to speculation that some form of illegal chemical weapons had been deployed.
Mad Dog indeed.

Posted by: Ross | Sep 6, 2018 4:46:49 PM | 42

Psychohistorian,
Karlofi,
b,
James,

I believe WW3 starts before the first week-end of October 2018.

What is your take?

Posted by: CarlD | Sep 6, 2018 4:54:09 PM | 43

Just a reminder as to which side has the moral high-ground here !
The battle to liberate Idlib clearly is starting now, within that province there will be hundreds of thousands of inocent terrified men,women and children, obviously they would leave if they could! but are being held as an horrific human shield by the us rebels /terrorist's armed fed and payed a wage by the UZA UK. There are reports of these hostages being prevented from leaving with people being made example of gallows ect ect. The us could stop this.it does not. The US UK have no morals. If they wanted to protect the people from Chem attack let them go !!!

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 6, 2018 4:54:37 PM | 44

World war 3 is half way through been raging for years.It's just that our city is'nt rubble yet, our family's body parts are'nt scattered yet. Q who 's going to empathys with us ? Refugees enyone ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 6, 2018 5:03:26 PM | 45

OT, but good news!

A RoK delegation returning from yesterday's meeting with DPRK officials and accompanying news reports say Kim is willing to sign a Declaration of Peace with Moon prior to the Outlaw US Empire removing its troops, while also taking note of other related developments:

"Chung Eui-yong, Moon's national security adviser, told reporters Thursday that Kim said he would be willing to sign the end-of-war declaration that Seoul and Pyongyang have been pursuing since the spring without concomitantly demanding the withdrawal of the 28,500 US troops stationed in South Korea or an end to the alliance between the US and South Korea."

Kim said the following and more:

"[W]e should value all these successes which the north and the south made hand in hand and keep advancing without deviation the north-south ties that have definitely entered the new orbit of peace, the orbit of reconciliation and cooperation."

Here's the DPRK's Rodong Sinmun's statement on the event.

The next Moon/Kim Summit will be in Pyongyang September 18-20. Imagine the pressure on the Outlaw US Empire should Kim and Moon sign such a Declaration! I bet Trump would sign it just to pressure the warmongering Senate to vote for a Peace Treaty. Imagine the global uproar if they declined to ratify!

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 6, 2018 5:05:28 PM | 46

CarlD @43--

I'm on record saying we're already in the midst of a Hybrid Third World War that began on 11 Sept 2001 when the Outlaw US Empire attacked itself, although some will argue it began with Clinton's illegal siege of Serbia. True, it hadn't gone global yet in either instance, but neither did WW2 become global when Japan invaded China in 1931.

Much depends on how desperate Neocons are to obtain their Full Spectrum Dominance policy goal as they've declared both Russia and China to be hostile powers interfering with the Empire's God-given right to control Eurasia.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 6, 2018 5:17:08 PM | 47

Why does Mattis lie about chemical weapons among his terrorist pals? Well ... liars lie and Mattis admits he has 'zero intelligence'. US foreign policy in a nut shell. MoronsR/US.

Posted by: ger | Sep 6, 2018 5:21:38 PM | 48

Mattis lies as always like when they did attack Syria the last time with France and GB.
They are nations of war criminals , no respect for the international laws , use force to get their agenda and keep colonizing the poor countries who do not have the ways to defend themselves , that where the Russian should get in with stern warning of possible war with west and the Zionist state which along with their Zionist friends in the USA rule the policy of western civilization if their was one.
They are not civilized but wolves in sheeps Coates.
Shame on the western Christianity, in the name of God they will go and kill whom do not bow to our needs.

Posted by: Bobby | Sep 6, 2018 7:21:28 PM | 49

Karlof1@47

Since the US was recovered by Cecil Rhodes and Rothschild on behalf of the money power in the City of London the US has been in a permanent world war against lesser nations starting from 1898. Since then we have invaded /occupied 65 countries with special forces deployed in over 130 countries at present. In the period 1950-2005 there have been 82 million avoidable deaths from deprivation (avoidable mortality, excess deaths, excess mortality , deaths that did not have to happen) associated with countries occupied or invaded by the US in the post-1945 era. Another 24 million by our little master Israel. I dont have figures from 2006-2018 but between Israel, Us and Nato it could be as high as 15 million in Syria,, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Palestine, Pakistan. Total since 1950 approaches 120 million in avoidable deaths.

Posted by: Pft | Sep 6, 2018 7:24:18 PM | 50

None of the amerikan bluster matters a toss. There is nothing they can do. Sure maybe they will ruffle a few feathers on the periphery and that p's me off - not as much as the innocents they will kill & maim will be p1ssed - it won't change anything.

This day has been coming for Idlib since the day about 3 years ago when Syria , Iran and Russia agreed to use it as a dumping ground for the credulous morons who follow the 'jihadis' around like flies on dogsh1t. If there ever was such a thing as a moderate armed fighter, they should never have agreed to share a country retreat with al Qaeda and Daesh since this endgame was plain to see from the get go. If the 'moderates' had shot thru to somewhere else, they and their families would have no worries now. Instead they bunked up with arseholes, either because the moneymen in Turkey KSA & UAE said to or because they were too weak willed to stand up for themselves. Whichever it was, nothing will go for the better as long as they try and divert responsibility for their own foolishness onto Syrians who just want peace in all of Syria with no more cowardly attacks on Syrians going about their own business.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 6, 2018 8:15:36 PM | 51

@32 johnmk.. simple enough answer and a good one too..

@37 shon.. that is how i basically see it too..

@40 karlof1.. the usa has had plenty of info on the chemical attacks.. it just doesn't fit their prearranged agenda, so they have to discard it all.. their bombing / fireworks campaign was based on not letting the osce get into ghouta before them to give them data that didn't go with their regime change..they had to spend however many million to keep the arms industry humming.. destroy any evidence seems to be the operating principle of the usa at this point... they turned libya into a hellhole and have been hoping for a repeat in syria.. russia isn't allowing it, so we must prepare for ww3 from the same sickos running the usa.. you know all this, so i am mostly preaching to the choir!~ cheers..

@49 bobby and @50 pft.. well said and worth repeating.. thanks..


@42 ross.. it is quite sickening really and to think the usa has this mattis guy in some position of power, as opposed to rotting in a jail where he ought to be.. but, that summarizes the usa system at present... rotten to the core.. more americans seem to be speaking out now, but i fear it might be too little, too late..

Posted by: james | Sep 6, 2018 8:50:26 PM | 52

I anxiously await to see how this is spun to fit into "trump is fighting the deep state narrative"

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-06/syrian-regime-change-table-trump-does-180-shift-syria-wapo-sources

Posted by: Schmoe | Sep 6, 2018 10:49:25 PM | 53

@53 schmoe

GTFO with your worthless WAPO referenced article. Total fake news and adds nothing to the conversation. Just more partisan Trump-bashing from our fly-by-night guests.

Syria is done. The good guys won and even Trump knows this. No amount of wishful thinking from the likes of WAPO and the like will get us back in the game.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 6, 2018 11:22:59 PM | 54

Thanks Debsisdead, i fuly agree. After all the years that have passed with the expanding realm of the terrorists and now contracting. I imagine any moderate human would have long departed for safer lands. Sure there will be a few good folk about but it seems awful clear that there are mostly terrorist supporters and family inthe Idlib region. The children are unwilling and likely many women but this region is populated by the lowest people on earth and to hell with them. It galls me to see the western pleading for their lives. Maybe Israel should accept them as refugees.

And thank you karlof1 for your contributions and those contributions of so many others. We strive for peace.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Sep 7, 2018 12:27:56 AM | 55

ABOUT UNITED STATES and their ZERO INTELLIGENCE.

At first let me state, that this is all derived from an open source investigation.
It doesn't need much of an investigation though to understand the sheer depths of stupidity and retardation the current American poppulations are suffering from. The lot of them. Their military, their security services, their political stuff and primarily their poppulace because they themselves put all those retarded people at those crucial possitions, to the detriment of the entire human race. You vote them, you pay for them, you support them, therefore it is all YOUR fault American!
My city today will start a number of celebrations which are an anual trade fair by holding the USA as the honorred country of the festivities. I am doing a bit of "honoring"myself with this post.
My research started before a few months on the realisation that to everybody's amazement the weather had started to behave in strange repeated patters. Not that we didn't experience strange weather before but this time was eerie to say the least. It began raining at almost the same hour between 7 and a half and 9 oclock the afternoon almost every day! Almost except the Sunday's for a month and a half, or at least than a bit more than a full month the same pattern was being repeated over and over for almost 80% of the time. The sky was always cloudy at around 80% of the same period and still looks the same until now except the rains. The humidity levels of course are out of this world compared to other years. This all is happening in the summer, a period which traditionally here, is with very scarce rains and occasionally lots of winds that ussualy carry the humidity away.
So I began researching and lo and behold...

One would thought that I would be amazed at what kind of otherwordly power zee Americanz can yeld and what really became of Hitler and his secret research, just by visiting the ussual conspiracy theories websites on the web. And then there is zee US Navy und zeir secret research. Then in dawnd on me. These guys are clumsy, lazy and they ussualy forget stuf laying around here and there. Also they are extremely non original since they seem they be stealing others peoples ideas, ussualy without even paying a tribute to the original author/inventor let alone money.
Soon I discovered that if Nicola Tesla didn't exist and lets say species like the lovely dolphins or kinds of birds like the pidgeons, all with their extraodrinary qualities and peculiar ways, US Navy would have been out of a lot of reasons to ask money for research. Here it would make sense to mention that the infamous Philadelphia experiment at Philadelphia Virginia USA conducted at 1943 between the Manhattan project experts of US Army and the US Navy was conducted only months after Nicola Tesla died, possibly from the famous research the American authorities stole from his premises just days after he passed away in a hotel room. He died in January of that same year. What Tesla has been doing since the beggining of the century certainly oppened their eyes to a new realm of possibilities, about energy transfer and the weather. My thoughts is that they offed him in a way because the timing of his death and proceedings of WWII was very suspicious...

My eyes peaked by curiosity after visiting a certain Youtube channel that seemd dormant because the rate at which was producing new content was once every month, at that current date, then all of a sudden before 24hrs passed after my visit, it peaked with energy once again, spitting off new and insighfull content about te US navy rsearch, CIA and the Weathermen, original Tesla articles from the old newspapers at the start of the century etc etc. Did I mention it spotted a huge eye like symbol as the hosted channels original web page format content? Well, I immediatelly though to myself this thing right here is a CIA front for some reason, something they call "a honeypot". I mean the thing had it all. Sounding rockets experiments, fillament compossition, weather patterns, maps, updates, even a special app where you could download it and report "any strange weather" in your area of the world! WOAH! I thought! These guys are CIA deffinatelly! At the same time it happened that in my general area there was all of a sudden LOTS of STRANGE weather, reppeating with patterns of clockwork accuracy! Nice work I thought@ They are possibly aware of all this, amd they want to tag me. Yeah ok but it is strange they are being presenting facts with such honesty, and then another thing dawned on me! What are these guys notorious about? They conceal stuff! They create fronts, fake ones. They try to control a narrative most of the times. That is what they are known for! So, I used them, their mappingcontent, other sources and insightfull sources about research on Tesla and also sources about ancient civilisations unexplaied wonders and hidden mysteries etc.

(continued...)

Posted by: Greece | Sep 7, 2018 12:45:25 AM | 56

What I discovered is that these guys were probably trying to conceal what the Russians were doing because simply what Russians might be doing is far, wait... WAY more advanced than what the US does. Russians were lucky I guess because it seems they were lucky enough to be at a good place (country/features/extensive borders) with a set of good knowledge (USSR extensive research in every thing possible with no limits and they had to answer to no one) probably and at a very fitting timeline too! I also remembered that Nicola Tesla was an Christian Orthodox by faith and he was exercising it and was vocal about it, just like what the Russians claim they are with a sizeable Christian Orthodox poppulation, the biggest in any country until todate. Well, it seems that God keeps a pattern here! I am always with attention to patterns! Patterns can tell you everything!

But what about those Russians what are they doing that is so much important?
Well... I believe, nothing less than what a type 1 civilisation would have accieved@ anybody heard of Dr. Michio Kaku? He explains what a possible civilisation type 1, type 2 and type 3 are. We are currently at what he describes as type 0. Mehh..
Yeah I believe Russian research is so advanced that the CIA had to create and maintain a false narrative showing off their own stuff to convince us that this is all there is out there, because they are afraid how the world will react if they realise how far advanced the Russians really are.

I believe they were really lucky to posses a set of geophysical features and the environment to discover ways of doing what only a further advanced civilisation than our would be able to do, which is sort of nothing less than discovering planets with atmospheres and cycle their energy so many times creating powerfull storms of energy on the higher altitudes of the atmosphere in order to create and mine real antimatter. Because this is the only way as of now scientists confirmed that that antimatter not only exists in reality but it is also produced in nature. From powerfull electrical explosions (thunder storms) in the top layers of the atmosphere.
While on the other hand poor Americans are only left with the solution to follow around the Russia research mainly because probably primarily they luck the properties of the natural environment that the Russians have. In contrary the USAns stuck with a huge and costly global network of installations divided between thir three branches of forces, Navy, Military and the Air Force, trying to control the weather, therefore the storms, humidity and clouds in order to slow down or hinder the Russian advances.
If you were able to cycle natural electric energy on the atmosphere and loop it around at increasingly higher orders of magnitude then having the ability to release it anywhere on the planet, in the form of antimatter, (would be naturally occuring from such great volumes of energy in the atmosphere anyway)would be nothing sort of having the ability to cracj the planet in half, or be able to burn half the earth's atmosphere. I always pay extreme detail to whatever statements the Russian release. Putin I believe cryptically points his phrasing to similar manings. Lately he useed to the word "spring" (As a metallic spring and the way it releasses if being stressed)
Would that be anything less of what th Gods of Olympus would be able to do in the old Myths? The father of the twelve gods of Olympus had two names with opposing meaning, one being "Zeus" which means the one that binds together and the other was "Deus" which means the one that can tear appart. Join together (matter) and turn assunder at the same time (antimatter).

Americans use you frog brains and put them to work.
Impeach Trump.
Get rid of Israel
Stop the nonsense of your alleged Space farce, err... Force.
Make peace with the Russians.

Posted by: Greece | Sep 7, 2018 12:51:42 AM | 57

Meanwhile, China is quietly establishing a base of operations in N-E Afghanistan and denying that it has a military purpose...

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 7, 2018 2:49:06 AM | 58


" Why is Mattis lying about it ? " Haha. This is standard operating procedure for the US government. The US lies about trade, lies about foreign countries, lies about wars,etc. It even lies among themselves. Example: Trump.

Posted by: chan pooi hoong | Sep 7, 2018 3:55:39 AM | 59

James mad dog Mattis lies about Syria.
yawn....

Which SoOffence hasnt lied thru his tooth in his day job ?
Which potus, SOS, CON-gress critter , senator was NOT a psychopath ?

Def.
A psychopath is one who could look straight into your eyes while telling a bald faced lie .

All elected leaders of the 6lies have been psychopaths, it might as well be written in the job requirement !

Hmm...
Why do folks in the 6lies, aka fukusIndia or 'democracies' elect psychopaths for leaders....not once , not twice but hundreds of times ?

According to Ian Fleming's fundamental law of probability, something must be wrong with the 6lies electorates ?

straight face psychopath...
Exhibit one.

Pompeo , with hundreds of certified genocides under his belt, points his blood soaked fingers at China,..
'You must come clean with the 'TAM massacre' ' !

sob repeat the same B.S. every 4/6,
'dont let the world forget TAM'

bUT thats normal, 6lies leaders lie, its a given.

What beats me is, thirty years after the debunking of TAM, those who ought to know better are still parroting their serial lying leaders 'tanks crushing unarmed students in TAM ' canard.
[Colin Wright]

Lying psychopath,
Exhibit 2

CON-gress critters want sanction on China for its 1000000 Uighurs gulags.

These days they dont even bother with fabricating 'evidences' like the Iraq WMM.

jUST say IT, they know the sheeples would lap it up every time, including those who think they'r so savvy with geopolitics.
When it comes to making up stories, their imagination is the limit.


hhhhh


Posted by: denk | Sep 7, 2018 4:05:37 AM | 60

Hoarsewhisperer @58:

IIRC, China isn't denying the base purpose. They're denying that it's solely for their military purposes. They're building a base for the Afghani military is the official line. I expect Chinese "advisors" to be working along with the ANA; like they are presently doing in the Wakhan corridor.

Posted by: Ian | Sep 7, 2018 4:46:07 AM | 61

An upshot of the resurrected Skripal nonsense is that in the UK Parliament on 12th September there is going to be a general debate about the Skripal affair. The theme will be without doubt: Russia equals Chemical Weapons.

If there is to be a another false flag chemical horror in Idlib, what better day than the 10th or 11th?

According to Thierry Meyssan (Voltaire.net), the White Helmets, and their British handlers (Olive Group) have kidnapped 44 Syrian children who are to be murdered to add verisimilitude to this false flag.

Let's hope he's not right.

Posted by: Montreal | Sep 7, 2018 7:18:22 AM | 62

@karlof1 47
Truly great commenting in the very intelligent group of people on this site.

When one cuts out all the noise, the top level issue the World is facing comes down to three possibilities:
1) as you say, the Ziocons give up their quest for global domination via flagging their US nag to death,
2) the US nag goes bankrupt and causes a global financial crash never seen before, due to accumulated fictitious assets and huge real liabilities ($230 trillion in unfunded government liabilities such as pensions etc, $600 trillion in derivatives, paper gold etc), or
3) Israel an US start a conflict which leads to global nuclear war which ends humanity.

Here is my estimate of probabilities:
1) 5%
2) 50%
3) 45%

Posted by: Kiza | Sep 7, 2018 10:11:32 AM | 63

Okay Greece @ 56, What is this city you refer to as 'my city'?

Posted by: Quentin | Sep 7, 2018 10:14:10 AM | 64

Here's a Twitter account with an apparent recent video of Idlib the human angle to war. If it is genuine it shows the very people the us and Ther rebels are holding hostage as a human shield ! @SMM Syria Twitter

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7, 2018 11:47:38 AM | 65

Recent tripartite resolution from Tehran indicates that Turkey is reluctant to let
its goons be annihilated in Idlib and this complicates matters.

Whereas Iran, Syria and Russia are keen on the eradication of
terrorists in Idlib, Turkey has qualms when it comes to seeing its recent
or actual proxies being eliminated.

Turkey invoques the eventual flow of refugees it will have to receive due
to the forthcoming action in Idlib and would rather see the situation get
resolved with pacific means.

Which of course draws attention to the fact that the Idlib area is under
occupation by Turkey through its proxies.

We are talking about a great and juicy portion of Syria that Erdogan would
rather not lose because he ponders, eventually, replacing them with Turkish
occupation and annexation, no matter how remote the possibilities of
this annexation being accepted by Syria and its allies.

This is a fly in the ointment of no small dimensions. Russia will have to find
a way to obtain Turkey's blessings on the Idlib operation.

Posted by: CarlD | Sep 7, 2018 11:50:03 AM | 66

Nothing about the debunked time stamps on the airport pictures published by the British government (see Bellingcat:“God-level Trolling” – Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Spokesperson Maria Zakharova Promotes Debunked Internet Conspiracy Theories on The Skripal Nerve Agent Attack via @bellingcat https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2018/09/06/god-level-trolling-russian-ministry-foreign-affairs-spokesperson-maria-zakharova-promotes-debunked-internet-conspiracy-theories-skripal-nerve-agent-attack/).

This blog and Craig Murray ("The Impossible Photo") were specifically mentioned promoting the "conspiracy" theory. Addressing this apparent discrepancy would be the right thing to do since seeking the truth should be the goal of all journalists.

Posted by: craigsummers | Sep 7, 2018 12:01:55 PM | 67

Sorry about that. Apparently you did update the information published by Bellingcat

Thanks.

Posted by: craigsummers | Sep 7, 2018 12:05:50 PM | 68

It's a good morning in my corner of the planet, and thanks for all the feedback, particularly Pft @50!

So far, no False Flag attack has occurred in concert with the Tehran Summit or UNSC meeting as many anticipated, which is very positive. Statements coming out of Tehran are very diplomatic. The comment I made at Sputnik's report centered on Erdogan's having created his Idlib dilemma himself and what he could do to atone for his moral failings for the entire Syria debacle he helped to cause. A Joint Statement was published, of which point #2 was aimed directly at the Outlaw US Empire and the UN:

"2. Emphasized their strong and continued commitment to the sovereignty, independence, unity and territorial integrity of the Syrian Arab Republic as well as to the purposes and principles of the UN Charter and highlighted that they should be respected by all. They reiterated that no actions, no matter by whom they were undertaken, should undermine these principles. They rejected all attempts to create new realities on the ground under the pretext of combating terrorism and expressed their determination to stand against separatist agendas aimed at undermining the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Syria as well as the national security of neighboring countries."

What I'm missing is a transcript of the joint news conference as the snippets offered by TASS only cover specific, yet important, points, this one being most important as Putin calls for terrorists to "... wisen up, stop putting up resistance and lay down their arms."

So far, I've seen nothing from the UNSC meeting, but it's only just after noon there.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 7, 2018 12:24:34 PM | 69

68,69;yawn.


Posted by: dahoit | Sep 7, 2018 1:18:15 PM | 70

@ 35 mark2
Rechsstat means a state ruled/governed by law. A state that will not embark of it s own dismantling by populism/fascism. That is how I understand it , but my German is rusty, as is my spanish, Italian and French.
Ahh well the chances of meeting a nice female from those countries are dimming when you hit 61 :D

Posted by: Den Lille Abe | Sep 7, 2018 10:30:24 PM | 71

Thanks d @ 72
That's what I thought ! I'v looked at the definition. Have seen the word on web sites opposing facism in Germany. It appears to be the way forward to stop the right wing. That word should be used more in all our country's. I think it was a term devised to help prevent the reacurence of another hitler style dictatorship. Bring on Rechtsstaat !!! Good luck with your election.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 8, 2018 4:20:07 AM | 72

Theatre of the Absurd! Mad-Dog Mattis states that Al-Q plus all affiliated jihadists and rag-tag, aka proxies, generously funded by the US-uk-isr, possess no Chemical WMD.

Maybe close to the truth. What ‘terrorist’ attack by these goons has turned out to be ‘serious’, proven as Chem WMD etc.? Even Obama denied that two such attacks in Syria took place. (He attempted to avoid crossing his own ‘red line’ which btw has been resurrected big time by Macron for ex.) Blatant video-propaganda.

Hundreds of thousands of deaths or more (depending on time scale..) Setting aside the handicapped and screaming in pain for life, the orphans, botched suicides, cholera victims, broken families, rape victims, aids epidemic, etc. and millions displaced! By bombing, corraling, sanctions, and outright murder / concentration camp type moves. Depleted Uranium, other chem agents (Agent Orange is forgotten?) and **starvation** thru destruction of agriculture and trade, etc. Break up of families and local solidarity is also a favoured tactic.

How many died from any kind of direct Chem attack? It is a ‘bogey’ script to keep sheeples on board. One evil is banned and hyped as the ultimate horror so that all concentrate on that ‘Nazi-like’ nightmare (recall, lampshades, crematoria..) while all the rest is then excused as ‘normal war!’

Incendiary bombs on houses, being gunned down at checkpoints, and little girls raped. Agri destroyed, water cut off. Why not.

I am unclear about what ‘weaponised’ chlorine is. Basically it is bleach, a very common industrial product and in its purest form it is rather obnoxious and makes you cough. (I am not a chemist or a toxicologist.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine

Posted by: Noirette | Sep 8, 2018 10:20:53 AM | 73

Noirette @ 74
Good good point, but don't get me started !
I remember a while ago googling white phosphorus and tapping on images ! Dam I had nightmares for a month after !!
And the same goons that used white phosphorus are not only saying how dredfull chemical weapons are now, accusing Syrian gov, but are actually the one's useing Chem now! Why do we even reason with them or attempt to apply logic to there actions ! Much less try to justify There actions or even vote for them. Lock'm up, throw away the key.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 8, 2018 3:48:20 PM | 74

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