It is now evident that the Turkish hostility the last 6 months before the Turkish elections against Greece were a calculated operation that was orchestrated betwen Donald Trump and Dayip Erdogan.
Th result of this pressure was :
http://www.iefimerida.gr/news/443575/athina-kai-oyasingkton-syzitoyn-gia-amerikaniki-vasi-stin-karpatho
US asked (pretty much demanded) to stage F-35, F-16, F-22 and Predator drone RQ-9 squadrons all over Greece, enlargment of their submarine base that officialy does not exist, yet it is officialy on the table (probably in order this presence to be legitimized since up until now they pretend it is just another Greek joint navy/airbase). It is also revealed in the article above a US stealth F-22 base in Karpathos island. The whole situation is troublesome since all these units won’t be operating against Turkey/Israel but against anyone else that means Russia meanwhile Turkey and in a more covert ay Israel are eyeing parts of sovereign Greek territory for themselves. Turkey in eastern Aegean and Western thrace and israel in the island of Crete and island of Rhodes, meanwhile they were already “scanning” Kastelorizo island through supposed underwater archaelology from the Turkish side of the EEZ pposite Kastelorizo island..
More on the fire thatt left 100 dead in the outskirts of Athens, near Penteli Mount (ancient name was Vrillisia Mount, yes, probably the only place on the planet it’s ancint name is named after the Vrill, whatever that was)
A “whitewashed piece of news about Hellenic Army aerial recon drones being shot down or sabotaged during reconaisance missions aiding fire department and air force in trying to contain the strange fires near Athens, where the word on the street is US Navy wants to re establish their old “abandoned’ bases in the area, at Penteli (Vrill) Mountain and valey of Marathon.
https://www.defence-point.gr/news/i-peripetia-ton-uav-sperwer-tou-stratou-xiras-stis-foties-tis-attikis
For anyone that is monitoring the weird stuff around Balkans and east Med. it seems Turkey is abuzz with weird weather, sights and sounds this whole last year. So whatever Turkey is doing or is experiencing must not be something that US is not aware or even not taking a part in and having a role to play.I believe Turkey and Us are not only secretly cooperating but started to function at much deeper and sensitive level together, while they sell their BS of an alleged problematic relationship to everyone else.
The weird stuff started happening after US elections, and Trump started “advertising” his deep connections with the US Department of Energy. US Department of energy is responsible for the states nuclear infrastructure and everything else that the State can exploit for defence regarding oversight of various branches of the Military. For instance if you have a secret space programe, dispersed between various branches of the Military, the DoE would be the one that has the full picture and the oversight. These are the Above top Secret guys in the US.

Posted by: Greece | Sep 14 2018 8:54 utc | 104

Avner Cohen @103
You appear to be masquerading as a Jew, who glorifies Jewish domination/triumphs and who can only see the world through that prism. You really are nothing more than a ridiculous caricature.
It seems to be that you are really anti-semitic and just hoping to provoke hatred against Jews for some bizarre reason.
Why do you use the name of ‘Avner Cohen’; he seems to stand for the reverse of everything you espouse?

Posted by: ADKC | Sep 14 2018 11:54 utc | 106

(not the real) Avner Cohen @106
No I don’t celebrate when enemies are destroyed. I don’t want anyone destroyed, any Russian, any American, any westerner, any Israeli or any Palestinian, any jew, any christian, any muslim, etc.
But you are not really addressing my post, merely proving it.
You are just trying to provoke an anti-semitic backlash and are merely a troll who hides behind the name of a great man. So build yourself up with your imaginary champagne, you do not represent jewish people, you merely seek to engender hostility towards jewish people. You may well need to see a psychiatrist.

Posted by: ADKC | Sep 14 2018 15:33 utc | 108

Very clever move on the Russian’s part….turning the Salisbury incident into a gender issue. It will keep the BBC busy for months.
Posted by: dh | Sep 14, 2018 11:51:57 AM | 88 in another thread

This is my take as well.
I am one of those who thinks of Putin as a magician.

Posted by: Guerrero | Sep 14 2018 16:02 utc | 110

Guerrero @110
A crazy as it seems “(not the real) Avner Cohen” is (ridiculously) serious.
A did a reply to his post @106 but it never appeared. I can’t be bothered to redo it but I ended by suggesting he needed to see a psychiatrist. He’s just trying to provoke anti-semitism (but his posts are verging on parody); I think he’s best ignored.

Posted by: ADKC | Sep 14 2018 16:11 utc | 112

S @71
Would Skripal have them come to his home?
Wouldn’t the Cathedral make for a good place to meet?
Maybe Skripals were on the way there when they got “poisoned” (by MI6)?
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 13, 2018 7:59:00 PM | 96

Were the pair British intelligence resources? This would explain their fear and nervousness.

Posted by: Guerrero | Sep 14 2018 16:16 utc | 114

@111 guerrero.. i think the verdict is still out on that question!

Posted by: james | Sep 14 2018 17:31 utc | 116

How many readers remember Yale Law School professor Amy Chua’s 2003 book World on Fire?
There she wrote about the attempt to implement free markets in Russia: “Instead of dispersing ownership and creating functioning markets, these reforms had allowed a small group of greedy industrialists and bankers to plunder Russia, turning themselves almost overnight into the billionaire-owners of Russia’s crown jewels while the country spiraled into chaos and lawlessness.”
Here’s where the “virtually all” comes in: Chua correctly noted that “six out of the seven of Russia’s wealthiest” oligarchs were Jewish.
When her Jewish husband heard about this, naturally he had to ask, “Just six? So who’s the seventh guy?”

Posted by: anon | Sep 14 2018 20:23 utc | 118

@117 anon.. i have never read any of her books, but her latest one – political tribes – looks readable.. good one on the comments of her and husband..
a friend sent me this – LEAKED VIDEO: Google Leadership’s Dismayed Reaction to Trump Election for anyone interested..

Posted by: james | Sep 14 2018 20:44 utc | 120

The philosophy world has been abuzz with talks of Martin Heidegger’s “Black Notebooks,” a collection of Heidegger’s personal writing that remained sealed until their publication in Germany in 2014.
Since their release in German, the Notebooks have fueled heated debates about Heidegger’s ties to the Nazi Party, and even led the chairman of the Martin Heidegger Society to relinquish his position.
In question are passages that reek of Nazi-era anti-Semitism that arguably inform the philosopher’s entire intellectual project.
The Considerations (Überlegungen), also known collectively as the “Black Notebooks,” have philosophers pondering if one’s work can truly be separated from its creator.
Some say Heidegger’s philosophical pursuits are directly linked with his anti-Semitism while others argue that there is nothing directly correlating his immense contribution to modern thought with his political ties to the National Socialist Party.
Baudrillard foresaw this kind of portrayal in his “Necrospective around Martin Heidegger,” where he said:
“All this is a desperate emotional response to the realization that the events in question are currently eluding us at the level of reality. The Heidegger affair, the Barbie trial etc… are the pathetic little convulsions produced by the loss of reality that afflicts us today.”
Harsh.
http://www.critical-theory.com/7-new-translated-excerpts-on-heideggers-anti-semitism/

Posted by: László | Sep 14 2018 22:16 utc | 122

Sounds like the EU /global elite just killed the internet. Enjoy the time thats left
https://bbs.boingboing.net/t/europe-just-voted-to-wreck-the-internet-spying-on-everything-and-censoring-vast-swathes-of-our-communications/128452/11

Posted by: Pft | Sep 15 2018 4:51 utc | 124

“Silence is banished from our screens; it has no place in communication.
Media images (and media texts resemble media images in every way) never fall silent: images and messages must follow one upon the other without interruption.
But silence is exactly that – a blip in the circuitry, that minor catastrophe, that slip which, on television for instance, becomes
highly meaningful –
a break laden now with anxiety, now with jubilation, which confirms the fact that all this communication is basically nothing but a rigid script,
an uninterrupted fiction designed to free us not only from the void of the television screen but equally from the void of our own mental screen, whose images we wait on with the same fascination.”
― Jean Baudrillard

Posted by: László | Sep 15 2018 6:57 utc | 126

Posted by Debsisdead

“According to the Indy article I stumbled across myself a mob of them were innocently nerding away at the Sunspot Solar Observatory in Sunspot, New Mexico when a squadron of blackhawk helicopters loaded to the gunnels with fbi agents swooped in, pushed the nerds out, slammed then locked the doors behind the nerds, muttering ‘security breach’ prior to turning the joint over.
The stickybeaks and sheetsniffers are still there and they aren’t saying what it is the star-heads were doing that was so evil with the nerding.”

Answer:

Posted by Greece, post 92.
The word on the street is that they (the Americans, not the aliens) are also responsible for the latest fire that left 100 people dead near Athens city, Mati at Vrillisia prefecture near Mount Penteli. (“Mati” in Greek means the “Eye” in English. Geologists and and seismologists have been suggesting that there lays the opening of a magnetic type of tunnel. Well, the CIA by all possibilities has identified the other magnetic exit of that feature. It is located near some hills at Langley, that is langley Virginia, in the US. Practically the other side of the planet.
Now the people are forced to abandon their homes and are selling them at dirt cheap prices.
Maybe the Muricans have some new plans about the place? They used to occupy 3 bases around that area and on top of the mountain doing strange things.

US Military want to build lots n lotsa new “Observatories” in general area of zi Balkans and Turkey. Of course the war in Syria is probably also about that.
What the FBI and the special forces in New Mexico were probably doing as probably they thought the visiting nerds had antena sniffers eavesdropping on the “network” the possible “Observatory” was also monitoring (eavesdropping). You see… zi American military after WWII ended discovered through the Nazi research that zear iz a huge magnetic corridor in zi earth you can use to aid you in spying and moving stuf around undetected from zi enemy… So in order for zi Germans to let release them all their secrets Americans promised to just do a show fr the world, and only cinematically bomb Dresden and a few more places, in WWII, then advised Germans to lay low for a while, then after 1955 they would make them again a superpower like before zi reich had fallen. Which they did! Germans asked for lots of gastarbaiters from Greece to extract revenge on them for their insurgency during the Nazi invasions, to keep them working for low wages and then experiment on their newborns mainly in Dusseldorf area.
End of story.

Posted by: Greece | Sep 15 2018 12:20 utc | 128

So Corbyn and the British Labour Party’s decision to adopt the IHRA’s anti-Semitism definition is a victory for the Israel lobby. Similar legislation in works in US. Criticism of Israel, weak as it is, will be stamped out.

Posted by: Pft | Sep 16 2018 2:10 utc | 130

“In Turin on 3rd January, 1889, Friedrich Nietzsche steps out of the doorway of number six, Via Carlo Alberto. Not far from him, the driver of a hansom cab is having trouble with a stubborn horse.
Despite all his urging, the horse refuses to move, whereupon the driver loses his patience and takes his whip to it. Nietzsche comes up to the throng and puts an end to the brutal scene, throwing his arms around the horse’s neck, sobbing.
His landlord takes him home, he lies motionless and silent for two days on a divan until he mutters the obligatory last words, and lives for another ten years, silent and demented, cared for by his mother and sisters. We do not know what happened to the horse.”
– (from the opening of Béla Tarr’s masterpiece, The Turin Horse (2011), a Nietzschean (anti-)thriller about the end of the world)
And here’s the Monologue scene, which could be seen as a demonstration (and rebuttal) of Nietzsche’s ideas:
The Turin Horse – Monologue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu_pqP7_IUE

Posted by: anon107 | Sep 16 2018 10:18 utc | 132

“..the whole of our reality is filtered through the media, including tragic events of the past. This means that it is too late to verify and understand those events historically… the tools required for such intelligibility have been lost. …
What is actually occurring – collectively, confusedly, via all the trials and debates – is a transition from the historical stage to a mythical stage: the mythic – and media led – reconstruction of all these events…
The Heidegger affair, the Klaus Barbie trial, and so on, are just so many feeble convulsive reactions to this loss of reality – which is now our reality. Faurisson’s claims are a cynical transposition of this loss of reality into the past.
The statement ‘It never existed’ means simply that we ourselves no longer exist sufficiently even to sustain a memory, and that hallucinations are the only way we have left to feel alive …”
-excerpt from Jean Baudrillard’s “Necrospective around Martin Heidegger”

Posted by: Sri Sri Ramthakur | Sep 18 2018 19:30 utc | 134

Where is Athens now? Oh, grieving god, has your city,
The one you loved best, that reached from your sacred shores,
Collapsed under ash entirely and buried even under
her graves?
Or are there remains, might a sailor,
Passing, remember her name and call her to mind?
Were there not columns once, risen up, and did not
The figured gods shine down from the citadel roof?
And the turbulent voice of the people murmured
Louder out of the Agora, the streets hurried down
Through the boisterous gates to your port full of blessings
(Hölderlin, The Archipelago)

Posted by: anon | Sep 20 2018 16:21 utc | 136