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August 06, 2018

Codename Acor Sycamore - The Saudi-U.S.-Al-Qaeda Plan To Reconquer Canada

Official news of the Saudi-U.S.-Al-Qaeda alliance was probably not enough to make the point. Anyone who crosses a U.S. or Saudi red line will be punished with by al-Qaeda .

Canada crossed such a line. That is what a verified Saudi propaganda account @infographic_ksa expressed today when it published this photo:


There is little subtlety in showing an airliner flying into the CN Tower in Toronto. (The tweet, and a follow up without the plane, have since been deleted. Earlier today the account called for murdering Iran's supreme leader. That tweet is still up. Update: The account was deleted.)

The 9/11 like tweet was part of a Saudi response to Canada's "overt and blatant interference in the internal affairs of the Kingdom of #SaudiArabia".

On July 30 Saudi Arabia incarcerated the activist Samar Badawi, a sister of the Saudi dissident Raif Badawi. Raif Badawi himself has been in prison for several years. His wife Ensaf Haidar and their three children found asylum in Canada. They live in Sherbrooke in Québec.

On August 3 Canada's government expressed its displeasure with the recent arrest:

Foreign Policy CAN @CanadaFP - 14:10 utc - 3 Aug 2018
Canada is gravely concerned about additional arrests of civil society and women’s rights activists in #SaudiArabia, including Samar Badawi. We urge the Saudi authorities to immediately release them and all other peaceful #humanrights activists.

Since yesterday the Saudis fire back:

Foreign Ministry @KSAmofaEN - 22:59 utc - 5 Aug 2018
#Statement | The negative and surprising attitude of #Canada is an entirely false claim and utterly incorrect.

The Saudi clown prince does not tolerate any criticism. His ambassador to Canada was recalled and the Canadian ambassador in Riyadh was given 24 hours to leave. All new trade and investment transactions between Saudi Arabia and Canada are frozen. It suspended scholarship for 8,000 of the 25,000 Saudi students in Canada. The Saudi troll brigade was activated and immediately went into action:


Dozens of Saudi accounts sent the copy/paste tweet below to various addressees. They were retweeted thousands of times.

خالد بن عبدالله آل سعود @KAFTA78 - 18:29 utc - 5 Aug 2018‏
- Replying to @CanEmbSA
In Saudi Arabia we feel worried about Canada committing cultural genocide against Indigenous people. We also support the right of Quebec to become an independent nation.
839 retweets 630 Likes

Donald Trump will follow the Canadian Saudi dispute with strong interest. He believes that "giving Canada their independence" was "the biggest mistake America ever made". In May he accused Canada of burning down the White House. It is high time to take revenge for that burning insult.

Canada has a controversial $15 billion deal to provide Saudi Arabia with more than 900 'Light Armored Vehicles', 40% of which are actually a Heavy Assault type. The sanctimonious Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called them 'jeeps'. He approved the export permits despite the acknowledged use of these tanks against internal Saudi resistance and in the Saudi rape of Yemen. Donald Trump will happily accept the Saudi request to move the deal to U.S. production lines.

Sources speak of a joint CIA-Saudi operation to arm moderate Québécois rebels for their fight against the repressive Trudeau regime in Ottawa. Codenamed Acor Sycamore, the operation will purchase weapons in Bulgaria and Croatia and secretly ship those to CIA trained freedom fighters. The Saudis will redeploy their al-Qaeda and ISIS from Syria to the Canadian tar sands. The U.S. plans to use their establishment as pretext for the war on Canada and its following occupation. The Israeli cyber spy company the Saudis hired to attack Amnesty International will be redirected to attack Ottawa. Mossad will send agents to sabotage Canada's Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve. The move will increase demand for U.S. syrup products.

Canada should note that its independence - graciously granted by Trump's America - can be revoked. The man who desires to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN may come to see the re-acquisition of the oil-rich but empty north-American space as the climax of his political career.

Today's AP piece on the Saudi-U.S.-Al-Qaeda alliance in Yemen and the Saudi '9/11 in Canada' tweet are not unrelated.

Justin Trudeau must immediately hop on a plane to Moscow and ask for Russia's support. Firing his anti-Russian, Nazi descendant foreign minister may help to gain Putin's grace.

Trump's MAGA intentions are well known. The message the Saudis sent is clear. The CN Tower will fall. Ottawa will be besieged. It is high time for Trudeau to act.



Posted by b on August 6, 2018 at 18:14 UTC | Permalink


Seriously? WTF? Whatever this is, and whatever transpires, I'll stand with the Canadians..

Posted by: ben | Aug 6 2018 18:26 utc | 1

Careful b, there are some Canadians who will take such columns seriously.

Posted by: Michael | Aug 6 2018 18:30 utc | 2

LOL! ps: I'm a Canadian

Posted by: john | Aug 6 2018 18:39 utc | 3

b... the art of snark talk.

(golf clap)

Posted by: DineroDProfit | Aug 6 2018 18:41 utc | 4

You could write for The Onion, if only you weren't making accurate, yet cryptic, points

Posted by: Adam McPherson | Aug 6 2018 18:55 utc | 5

i read this right after getting up and being uncaffeinated and it took me a second to realize the quebec part was sarcasm. it is easy to debunk though: the quebecois inherited their french forefathers' deep and burning hatred for muslims and brown people in general. plus they're french so is anyone really worried about their fighting ability? maybe just throw waves and waves of unarmed algerians at them until they run out bullets.

speaking of which: trudeau (or as i call him, "eaubama") is a spineless bitch. that's as nicely as i can put it. he has his lips planted firmly on the "pipelines" of netanyahu and bin salman and he maintains eye contact until the end. just as obama only looked good because he followed bush II, this little brain donor only looks good because he followed harper - basically bush with a gelmet and glasses. plus people remember his asshole father fondly for some reason.

the saudis could literally do everything they've threatened plus the stuff you made up and ottowa would just say "thank you sir may i have another". oh well. still better than living in DC. but then so is aggressive rectal cancer.

Posted by: the pair | Aug 6 2018 19:08 utc | 6

When the British burned down the White House, it was retaliation for the U.S. earlier burning down the government buildings in York, as Toronto was then called.

Posted by: lysias | Aug 6 2018 19:18 utc | 7

Hmm... Perhaps Trudeau will finally grow a pair and join the EU& in continuing to do business with Iran. Perhaps NATO will expel the Outlaw US Empire. Perhaps Canada will withdraw from NAFTA. If Trump attacked Canada, would the rest of NATO honor Article 5 and come to its defense?

Trump reminds me of the square peg trying to fit into the round hole.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6 2018 19:31 utc | 8

Raif Badawi -- Wiki --
Badawi was arrested in 2012 on a charge of "insulting Islam through electronic channels" and brought to court on several charges, including apostasy. In 2013 he was convicted on several charges and sentenced to seven years in prison and 600 lashes. In 2014 his sentence was increased to 10 years in prison, 1000 lashes, and a fine. The flogging was to be carried out over 20 weeks. The first 50 lashes were administered on 9 January 2015.[3] The second flogging has been postponed more than twelve times.[4]

Posted by: chet380 | Aug 6 2018 19:52 utc | 9

Saudi Airlines suspends flights to Canada starting August 13

That's called the "Qatar treatment". I hear that there are plans to build a moat around Canada filled with radioactive stuff.

Will that happen before or after the U.S. invasion?

Posted by: b | Aug 6 2018 20:26 utc | 10

lysias 7

When the British burned down the White House, it was retaliation for the U.S. earlier burning down the government buildings in York, as Toronto was then called.

The British Empire together with its American colonies invaded Canada in the 1750s during the Seven Years War.

The Americans invaded the British Empire's colony of Ontario in 1813 and burned York.

The British Empire with assistance of its Ontario colonial auxiliaries invaded and burned Washington in 1814.

I say let's all blame it on the British Empire.

Posted by: sleepy | Aug 6 2018 20:47 utc | 11

I miss early South Park.

Posted by: et Al | Aug 6 2018 21:04 utc | 12

Come on, if there was Russia that made this would you jump on it too? Of course not, so why now? Ridiculous fearmongering.

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 6 2018 21:10 utc | 13

Concerning strategic reserves of maple syrup, they actually exist, although at the provincial level. Like honey, concentrated syrup can be stored for several years, and stockpiling reduces the effect of crop variability on prices and stabilizes the income of the producers. Quebec stockpile was affected by theft on a huge scale:

In 2012, officials at the Federation of Quebec Maple Syrup Producers (FPAQ) discovered that over 9,000 barrels worth of maple syrup had been stolen from one of their warehouses, which is a big deal [a barrel may cost 3-4 thousand USD]

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 6 2018 21:18 utc | 14

The export of Canadian fighting vehicles has led to a lot of domestic pressure on the Prime Minister (given perceptions of Saudi actions in Canada) and a human rights violation is seen as about the only way for Canada to renege on the contract. By highlighting that incident the Canadian government seems to be setting the stage for cancellation. If Canada does it on "moral' grounds, other western countries might follow - hence the Saudi reaction

Posted by: les7 | Aug 6 2018 21:20 utc | 15

CBC News was showing a film clip this morning showing Samar Badawi standing between Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton. So it seems that the Badawis are Globalist assets.

Canadian Foreign Minister, Christia Freeland, is a protege of George Soros.

The Globalists, led by George Soros, have been front and center in trying to take down both Trump and Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

It looks to me like this is just another skirmish in the war between the 'Globalists' and the 'Anti-Globalists'.

Posted by: dh-mtl | Aug 6 2018 21:23 utc | 16

et Al @12: "I miss early South Park"

Yeah, me too. I was about to say, time to watch the South Park Movie again, but I do miss the old days when the stories would be actual stories without constant recourse to social media, mobile phones and all contemporary tech & political tropes.

Posted by: Ash | Aug 6 2018 21:43 utc | 17

The plan is to launch a blitzkrieg from out of the northern plains of the US and capture the city of Winnepeg, thus cutting off western Canada from the population centers of eastern Canada and to serve as a decoy for Canadian forces. Then, the main attack will be launched from upstate New York into the Canadian population centers. The main Canadian forces will be destroyed in a pincer movement between the US forces in Manitoba and the forces moving north from New York state. It will all be over in a few months. Canada will be ours!!

Posted by: gdpbull | Aug 6 2018 21:59 utc | 18

@18 Won't work. The Canadians will leave high quality cannabis at strategic points. US forces will collapse.

Posted by: dh | Aug 6 2018 22:11 utc | 19

It seems to me the UK is doing all it can to speed the day of US empire collapse with hopes of reinflating the British Commonwealth in the aftermath. If Canada is a chip in the big game going down the Australia can't be more than a moment behind.

Posted by: Newdog | Aug 6 2018 22:48 utc | 20

"Earlier today the account called for murdering Iran's supreme leader. That tweet is still up.)"

Not any more, b. Being from Canuckistan I should apologize for noticing though.

Posted by: spudski | Aug 6 2018 23:27 utc | 21

Saudis threatened to end contributions to the UN if their human rights violations were called out (flogging, hand chopping, head chopping, general chopping, hanging cadavers). In order to assuage their unpleasant feelings, they were enjoined to the special UN Committee for Human Rights.

Posted by: fast freddy | Aug 6 2018 23:55 utc | 22

Time for Justin Trudeau to act?

Perhaps he should relinquish his job to Justin Bieber and take up singing and acting out.

Who would notice the difference? People would still continue to call the incumbent Justin Bieber Trudeau.

Posted by: Jen | Aug 7 2018 1:01 utc | 23

Saudi payrollees speak up:

"In his statement published by Wafa, the official Palestinian news agency, Abbas expressed his total condemnation of Canada’s blatant interference in Saudi Arabia’s internal affairs, saying that he considers it a serious impingement on the sovereignty of the Kingdom."

Posted by: ninel | Aug 7 2018 1:11 utc | 24

Bravo b!

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 7 2018 1:25 utc | 25

August 6th is a peculiar date on which to make an April 1st joke.
Making public threats is dopiness personified - without exception.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 7 2018 1:48 utc | 26

Saudi's shut down the infographic twitter account
Saudi media ministry orders @Infographic_ksa owner to shut down the account over pending investigation following complaints after it posted image of plane flying toward Toronto skyline

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Aug 7 2018 2:16 utc | 27

the NYT weighs in on this thing..

I found this part to be particularly, uh, amusing:

......“The kingdom of Saudi Arabia does not interfere in the internal affairs of other states and it won’t accept any attempt to interfere in our internal affairs,” Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir said on Twitter. “We deal with that with all firmness.”....

as we all know here at the moon, the Saudis are among the worst purveyors of reaction, violence and interference in internal affairs of other nations - by exporting their radically reactionary Wahhabism, secondly their funding into the tens of billions $$$ for the jihadists attacking Syria for the past 7+ years, & thirdly of course their heinous crimes against poor Yemen.

"....The kingdom also recalled its ambassador to Sweden and stopped issuing business visas to Swedes in 2015 after human rights criticisms. Sweden, in turn, canceled an arms deal...."

let us hope that Canada wakes up and cancels their arms deals too. get some backbone Trudeau!

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 7 2018 2:41 utc | 28

Trump signing the US back out of the JCPOA and his unilateral disarmament demand, to be enforced by Pompeo "choking Iran oil revenues to zero" is, of course, a crime against humanity by a rogue state controlled by a now theocratic apartheid rogue state, directly attacking the civilian population of Iran through financial carpet bombing.

There must be a LOT of recoverable oil under Yemen! Personally, you can hope for whatever God's Justice you want, but the Twin Rogues will just use that as pretext to carpet bomb Iran for real. I have a sense the 'fracking' miracle of massive oversupply is about to spawn another orgy of supply destruction like Cheney's oil wars on Iraq and Libya.

"How terrible is the Truth, when there is no help in the Truth"

"All aboard!"

Posted by: Chipnik | Aug 7 2018 2:56 utc | 29

Good one! :-)

Posted by: Fidelios Automata | Aug 7 2018 3:08 utc | 30

A nice exposition of potential operations against the Canadian dictatorship. However, most of the dictatorship's money comes from Alberta, which is ready to secede and join the Union to the south, anyway. That's the real vulnerability. ;-)

Posted by: xeno | Aug 7 2018 3:13 utc | 31

Brilliant posting b. The response by Zanon says it all....grin!!!!

I want to rail agains the globalists/anti-globalists characterization of the factions. Both factions are globalists. The difference lies more in their approach to the culturalization of God of Mammon empire in response to the rise of China.

I see it as the slow/fast boil strategy. The slow boil strategy has been in effect since the early 1970's with goals of shredding the social safety nets of all Western nations and use identity politics to stratify the populace around issues.

The fast boil strategy is Trump with no holds barred attacks on social cohesion, social safety nets, and anything smelling of not private finance/God of Mammon values. His handlers understand clearly that China has created and executed 13 - five year plans as a communist/socialist country. They also know that they have been in control of the Western world for a few centuries and so are still cautiously optimistic that they can maintain some level of control into the future, albeit, perhaps at a reduced level.

And then there are those of us that want to see the God of Mammon culture die soon of its internal inhumanity to our species.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 7 2018 3:18 utc | 32

The universe works in mysterious ways. First Trump poops all over Trudeau and now this. The message is loud and clear or should Canadians put up billboards all around Ottawa?

Here's the message to Trudeau: Grow a pair already! Stop being the Zionist U.S. lapdog and drop the double-standard: sending military equipment to the Saudis to help them in their Yemen genocide is abetting a crime against humanity! Dump Trump and his Saudi patrons and join the resistance against sanctions and economic tyranny on Iran.

Posted by: Circe | Aug 7 2018 3:59 utc | 33

Regarding the picture. Yes, the Saudis sic ISIS and Al-Qaeda on those who don't conform. But ask yourselves this? Conform to what? ZIONIST RULE. The only reason the Saudi monarchs keep their throne is because of Zionist protection.

So the next time an image reminiscent of 9/11 shows up as a threat, don't forget that there's a party to the collusion that operates in the shadows but controls all the other parties involved.

Posted by: Circe | Aug 7 2018 4:08 utc | 34

"Donald Trump will follow the Canadian Saudi dispute with strong interest. He believes that 'giving Canada their independence' was 'the biggest mistake America ever made'."

Yeah he is an oaf with a weak grasp of history, but even so I thought that this claim about Trump seemed too ridiculous. Sure enough... B, your source for this (The Burrard Street Journal) is a Canadian satire/comedy site.

Posted by: Isaac | Aug 7 2018 6:55 utc | 35


Great. I will take you up on that very post next time MSM try to scare us with the same conspiracies they think they see in a picture/statement Russia have posted, that will show the double standards you judge these situations by.

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 7 2018 8:10 utc | 36

I guess Kushner's green table plan was to modernize Saudi society so that a) Saudis accept an official pact with Israel on Palestine and Iran b) Saudis stop being an embarrassment for US citizens as a US ally.

Trump's evangelical Christian voters do have a problem with radical Islam. Same as Israelis. To persuade them that Saudis are different is a huge task.

The problem with Al Qaeda in Yemen is that the US cannot officially support them and Saudis have no other tool. Same problem existed with IS.

Obama tried Turkey and the Muslim brotherhood to get a US friendly client in the Middle East the US can officially deal with. That was a huge problem for Saudi and Israel - they stopped it.

Kushner's other plan - to stop funding for UNRWA to starve Palestinians into submission seems to have hit a Qatar/Turkish block. Qatar and others picked up the tab. Had this plan succeeded it would have had huge destabilization potential.

Same as his Saudi cultural modernization plan.

Saudi seems to have withdrawn from the US plan for Israel.

Saudi and Qatar have bought S400 from Russia.

So yes, US are threatening Saudi Arabia via Canada. They don't dare to do it themselves - the US knows the Saudis involved in 9/11 but the Saudis will know who else.

Posted by: somebody | Aug 7 2018 9:59 utc | 37

KUALA LUMPUR: The government has ordered the closure of the Saudi-backed King Salman Centre for International Peace (KSCIP) with immediate effect, Mohamad Sabu announced today.

Posted by: partizan | Aug 7 2018 10:22 utc | 38

Posted by: somebody | Aug 7, 2018 5:59:09 AM | 36

"Trump's evangelical Christian voters do have a problem with radical Islam."

Wrong, they have a problem with Islam and Muslims! ok?

Secondly, just as you and your POTUS have problem(s) with Islam you have problem with everybody else who is not WASP. Do i need to specify them?

Posted by: partizan | Aug 7 2018 10:28 utc | 39

"Saudi and Qatar have bought S400 from Russia."

Negative, out of question, no permission granted. It would be Armageddon day for them if they do that.

Posted by: partizan | Aug 7 2018 10:33 utc | 40

@ somebody
you seem to have it backwards

evangelist christians and israelis have a problem with islam.
they dont have a problem with radical islam ie wahhabism

have a look see at : when isis and its derivatives were on the borders (the most peacefull border) of occupied golan heights and strolling in and out of israel and the insane amount of israeli made weapons and israeli medicine found in the south of syria

Posted by: occidentosis | Aug 7 2018 10:38 utc | 41

@36 Somebody

Certain Israelis were said to be heavily involved as well.


Posted by: Bevin Kacon | Aug 7 2018 10:52 utc | 42

It's good to see M O A and this post, up on Vansssa Beeley's Twitter site today ! On the internet we are now under major attack, regarding the truth and calling out the false propaganda on main stream media ! We must share as many good sites as we can. Twitter are getting more oppressive by the week. This site is being restricted , I say that from my own personal experience not by b but by outside agency.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 7 2018 11:55 utc | 43

LOL Well, maybe all mentioned parties have forgotten that Canada sits on one quarter (1/4) of the planets fresh water. And maybe the Saudis can used their considerable oil revenue (what hasn't been squandered on the rape of Yemen) to extract it from the wilderness up there. Or maybe they can just drink oil!!!!

Posted by: Andre | Aug 7 2018 12:27 utc | 44


I believe this site or MoA's twitter could be targeted soon too, these crazy state/corporate censorships are to say atleast dangerous.

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 7 2018 12:40 utc | 45

Zanon @ 44
Agreed on that. I feel vonrabile. Back up sites are needed. The consequences of missing this site don't bare thinking about!

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 7 2018 13:01 utc | 46

Zanon almost makes paul seem tolerable.

Posted by: SlapHappy | Aug 7 2018 13:43 utc | 47

@Posted by: somebody | Aug 7, 2018 5:59:09 AM | 36

You may have a point there, just reading this morning that there have been claims for a revolution in Saudi Arabia by a former National Guard officer, supported by Ummah oposition party, which claim for a peaceful transition of power, and many members of Royal family prejudiced in the purges of past months.... I do not know how all these actors would came together to achieve a goal, but, who knows....

On the other hand, there is the news of a Russian Baltic Fleet missile frigate which have entered Gulf of Aden on anti-piracy mission....

Posted by: Sasha | Aug 7 2018 13:45 utc | 48

Needs a /snarkbegins
I cant tell where the paridy starts

Posted by: Iguanabowtie | Aug 7 2018 14:02 utc | 49

maybe all mentioned parties have forgotten that Canada sits on one quarter (1/4) of the planets fresh water.

This is the great NAWAPA continental water project, isn't it? To productively employ vast amounts of
clear water flowing uselessly into the Arctic Sea. It's to turn this stream, directing it across the great
American desert, all the way to the States of Sonora and Chihuahua in the neighbor republic of Mexico.

Imagine if this had been built in the 1950's when that NAWAPA Plan was actually approved by Congress!

Posted by: Guerrero | Aug 7 2018 14:06 utc | 50


Indeed, thats not far fetched to be worried about this censorship,

Chilling precedent? InfoWars block exposes Big Tech as no friend of free speech

It wont stop here.

I hope b would adress this in a post!

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 7 2018 14:12 utc | 51

The criticisms of SA human rights record came from Canada's FM Freedland by the way, not mentioned for some reason. She has been noted for being heir to a Nazi collaborator and fierce critic of Russia.

Posted by: Ninel | Aug 7 2018 14:26 utc | 52

I'm going to start drinking Molsen.

Posted by: Edgar | Aug 7 2018 14:43 utc | 53

Lots of really nice Canadian beer out there--but, it seems, Molson is now owned by a large transnational....

Posted by: Bluemot5 | Aug 7 2018 15:05 utc | 54


So yes, US are threatening Saudi Arabia via Canada.They don't dare to do it themselves - the US knows the Saudis involved in 9/11 but the Saudis will know who else.

Your kidding, right? Isn't it the U.S. using Saudi Arabia to threaten Canada? To even imagine that the U.S. feel threatened by low-level Zionist puppets like the Saudis is laughable.

Posted by: Circe | Aug 7 2018 15:07 utc | 55

The U.S., specifically Trump, think Canada should have no independent policy that is not in sync with their own, so a threat here and there keeps the Empire's vassal in line.

Posted by: Circe | Aug 7 2018 15:18 utc | 56

This is not a good move for the KSA, as in a few decades their water will be gone and the elites will be looking for cabins in Canada where the water is plentiful.

Posted by: Bart Hansen | Aug 7 2018 16:16 utc | 57

Malaysian government summarily closes supposed Saudi anti-terror center. As I recall, Mahathir isn't any friend of the Saudis. Also, Eurasiafuture's been hacked and the JPost is currently shown in its place.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 7 2018 16:30 utc | 58

Don't let ' them ' ( the 1% ) confuse us or devide us !
If you are a peace loving citizen of any country and wish peace on other people and nations! Your on the right side. If you stand up for attacking peace loveing people, in your country or eny other country your the bad guy. The harm you wish on others, will be your punishment. Relivent on this post---- the 1% are in Saudia Arabia, America , Canada U K ect ect. if we don't lose sight of that, it makes our enemy smaller and easyer numerically to deal with. we need to reach out and connect with the good people to bring down the haters.
Saudia 1% need to be criticised for human rights failings , good for Canada for doing so ! Canada by the same token should be called out for arms sales ,backing western hostility ect.
Gone are the days when we can expect to just vote some one in and let them do what the hell they want !!!
And on that note there's a big anti fascist counter demonstration this Sunday in Washington DC. Be there if you can. To save your family, your nabourhood,'your' country and planet.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 7 2018 16:37 utc | 59

ot;zionism is a terrorism state,which murders Syrian freedom members.

Posted by: dahoit | Aug 7 2018 16:43 utc | 60

Wow! An abusive tiff between the Western despots and Saudi Arabia! This is the most multi-faceted development in recent times!

Of course Russia would not be so stupid as the Democrat claims of US election manipulation allege, but if someone were to suggest the 3-way abusive squabble between SA, CA and US was masterminded by President Putin, that would be a different matter. It would have a certain ring to it, you never know ...

Posted by: BM | Aug 7 2018 17:13 utc | 61

@36, @55

You are both right.

The U.S. (that would be the 'Globalist'/anti-Trump faction under Soros) is threatening Saudi Arabia via Canada.

Trump is also using Saudi Arabia to threaten Canada.

The real fight here is between the 'Globalist' anti-Trumpers and the 'Authoritarian Nationalists' led by Trump.

Canada, with Soros protege Freeland is aligned with the Globalists and MBS is aligned with Trump.

One cannot attribute any particular action generically to the U.S., because governance in the U.S. is divided between these two factions, and thus the U.S. is on both sides of this fight.

Posted by: dh-mtl | Aug 7 2018 17:52 utc | 62

Dh-mtl @ 62
Nice theory with a lot of merit! But for the fact that trump is surrounded by Israil loveing zionists on his team, pulling his strings like a puppet ! It would still hold good as an understanding if we consider the possibility, that Israil would want to weaken America ,Canada and Saudi Arabia so as to dominate all three!

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 7 2018 18:17 utc | 63

Canadian reactions.


Alex Kliment, a CBSN contributor who writes for Signal, a newsletter from GZERO Media, told CBSN's Anne-Marie Green the diplomatic dispute may be part of Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's push to create what Kliment called an "enlightened dictatorship" in what's considered one of the world's most conservative societies.

"I think they're being sensitive for a very important reason. Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman is trying to pull off a very delicate process in which he liberalizes some aspects of Saudi society, which is extremely conservative, but also retains virtually absolute power over that society," Kliment said.

Feeling lonely:

"I think it's also important to note that there's a bit of a Trump effect here, right? You know, the U.S. government has never been particularly committed to changing the human rights situation in Saudi Arabia. It's a key ally. It supplies lots of oil, regional ally, strategic ally. So the U.S. has never pushed particularly hard," Kliment said. "But with Trump in office, Mohammed bin Salman knows he has a U.S. president who is particularly uninterested in questions of human rights, cares more about the fight with Iran, has given Mohammed bin Salman wide leeway to really do as he pleases. So the Saudis know they have cover."

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 7 2018 19:59 utc | 64

Sounds like something from a Michael Moore movie. How does a former colony of Britain grant freedom to a current member of the British Empire?

Posted by: CDWaller | Aug 7 2018 20:42 utc | 65

What ever we do or say, we better not mention Jacob and Evlyn Rothchild or were gunna be in serious trouble ! Oh wait ! I just did ! Dam now I'm in trouble !
Hey Jacob ! Kiss my butt !!!

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 7 2018 21:20 utc | 66

Maybe Justin should talk to Putin. In 2012 Prince Bandar Bush threatened to send Chechen terrorists to the Sochi Olympics if Putin didn't heel to Saudi demands.

Well, Saudis did not get their demands met. No change in Russia policy toward Assad, and in fact later giving military aid crushing Saudi sponsored Al Queda and ISIS, And no terrorist attacks during Sochi Olympics. Either the Saudis were bluffing or there was a follow up call to Bandar Bush. Maybe Bandar woke up one morning to find a horse's head in his bed. Well, maybe not--Putin seems to an animal person.

Justin might get some tips and hints.

Posted by: Erelis | Aug 8 2018 15:37 utc | 67

thanks b! good for canada for saying something about crazy messed up ksa with it's clown prince...

too bad you got a screen shot of these 'moderate' headchopper - al qaeda, plane hijacking freaks, before it got taken down... some folks will not be happy about that either, lol..

Posted by: james | Aug 8 2018 19:30 utc | 68

The Canadian government needs to stop doing business with the devil. Conservatives: STFU!!! You're to blame! Don't grovel for money with tyrants!

Posted by: Circe | Aug 9 2018 0:39 utc | 69

@69 circe... i fully agree! here in canada it doesn't matter whether they are conservatives, liberals or ndp - they are all happy to suck at the trough on saudi money.. they all bow down to the great god of neo-liberalism and could give a rats ass about much of anything else..

Posted by: james | Aug 9 2018 0:54 utc | 70

James @ 70 @. Circie @79
Yep same here in uk ! Trying to distroy any real political oppersition. Politics is now a side show for the gullible. Well they stuff there pockets with our money!

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 9 2018 11:18 utc | 71

Malaysian government summarily closes supposed Saudi anti-terror center. As I recall, Mahathir isn't any friend of the Saudis. Also, Eurasiafuture's been hacked and the JPost is currently shown in its place.
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 7, 2018 12:30:34 PM | 58

He'll be just as tough on any signs of Mossad activity in Malaysia too.
He got into a spat with Oz PM Paul Keating in 1993 after giving a speech in which he said "Jews rule the world by proxy."
Keating expressed his pro-I$rael displeasure by labeling Mahathir a 'recalcitrant' adding fuel to the fire. Neither backed down at the time. When I googled the squabble to find the date I found a 'news' item which says that Mahathir has embarked on a fence-mending exercise with But he's probably kidding given that Oz is way more Zionist than in 1993. Mahathir helped finance the ill-fated Gaza relief mission from Turkey by making his ship, the Mavi Maramara, available to the Humanitarian Human crew - some of whom were slaughtered by "Israel" on the high seas before reaching Gaza.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 9 2018 14:00 utc | 72

What do you suppose /snark means? Like maybe b has started writing for The Onion?

Posted by: LJ | Aug 9 2018 17:34 utc | 73

Amidst the nonsense a likely scenario:

Did the Donald Put the Saudis Up To Their Tantrum?

"There is a reason the US State Department refused to answer directly if they had known about, and therefore tacitly approved of, the Saudi flip-out before it happened. One thing the world has learned about Trump is that he is a master of payback. So why not Trudeau?"

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 10 2018 16:03 utc | 74


Posted by: LAURENT TOUSSAINT | Aug 27 2018 15:02 utc | 75

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