Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
May 14, 2018

Trump's Family Applauds Zionist Massacre Of Palestinians In Gaza

U.S. President Trump's family applauds Zionist massacre of Palestinians in Gaza:


At some settler event in the capital of Palestine Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, mentioned today's Gaza massacre in which Israeli soldiers murdered at least 52 and maimed 1,200 unarmed Palestinians. He accused them of being the guilty ones because they protest  against the Zionist theft and occupation of their land:

"As we have seen from the protests of the last month and even today, those provoking violence are part of the problem and not part of the solution."

The White House omitted that sentence in its official transcript. In its daily press briefing the White House called the murder committed by the Zionist army "a propaganda attempt" by Hamas and Palestinians.

In response to today's massacre South Africa recalled its ambassador from Israel. It is so far the only country which did so. South Africa knows apartheid and colonial violence. It no longer condones it.

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Bernhard, your irony is most welcome. Otherwise, what can one say?

Posted by: sarz | May 14 2018 19:08 utc | 1

Have you read this?

The true face of the organisation calling itself “Labour Friends of Israel” has been revealed today, in truly disgusting victim-blaming tweets reacting to the massacre of over fifty Palestinians – including yet more children – by the Israeli Defence Force in Gaza.

Posted by: Zanon | May 14 2018 19:08 utc | 2

The whole thing is horrible from any way you look at it.

Why is this couple of numbskulls put in this role?
Why is the USA doing this?
Is is possible to be even more disrespectful and insensitive (for starters)? Yeah, that last is a rhetorical question. Please don't answer.

How low can we/the USA sink? Apparently we haven't come close to scraping bottom yet.

So sorry, rest-o-the world.

Posted by: RUKidding | May 14 2018 19:15 utc | 3

The illiterate orange Chump was a known front goy of the jewish mafia in New York for years. It's not surprising that he's dancing to Sheldon Adelsons tune and acquiescing to zionist commands. In a few months deplorable goyims will probably have to bleed in the Persian gulf for the chosen ones. Made your bed, now lie in it...

Posted by: Augustin L | May 14 2018 19:27 utc | 4

Brave of South Africa. Color revolution anyone?

It's apparent to me that Kushner & Ivanka is being groomed for the Imperial Throne post-2024, or 2020 if Trump loses the midterms. IMO, the Two-State solution is no longer a viable option as long the US and UK continues to exists, which they will in the foreseeable future. The only viable solution is a one state solution where the Palestinians are given full rights.

Posted by: Ian | May 14 2018 19:36 utc | 5

We all knew that Kushner is a hyper-Zionist. However, what bothers me is how many other people are incapable of seeing the immorality of such an attitude.

Posted by: Eve Human | May 14 2018 19:43 utc | 6

The Hamas Terrorist Tunnels

One thing that has always bothered me about the reporting on Gaza is the mindless repetition about the so-called 'terror tunnels'. FOX's very own Peter Hegseth toured one of these tunnels where an Israeli soldier dressed from head to toe in all black brandishing an AK-47, the only thing missing was the word 'TERRORIST' written in white lettering on his black T-Shirt.

Uh ... maybe these are just smuggling tunnels?

I mean, I don't hear about Israelis is being killed around Gaza by roving bands of Hamas troops, so am I to believe that of the hundred or so tunnels that I have heard about, the Israelis just discovered them in the nick of time. Since the Gazan's are under a severe blockade, like the Jews of Warsaw long ago, smuggling is the most obvious possibility, certainly one that should cross the mind.

Posted by: Christian Chuba | May 14 2018 19:46 utc | 7

Ayelet Shaked is elated. If only more Palestinians could be slaughtered, especially mothers and their children whom she believes (as Uri Elitzur had previously expressed) to be little snakes.

She can be read (in Hebrew) on Twitter. Currently she poses in front of a plaque designating the new Embassy. Trump's name is boldly emblazoned upon the plaque.

Posted by: fastfreddy | May 14 2018 19:46 utc | 8

@5, Ian
The colour revolution-judiciary coup already happened in South Africa. Zuma is out and Cyril Ramaphosa is now in charge. The broederbond and their anglo-american ''colleagues'' ousted Zuma because he was thought to be unreliable to protect their oligarchical and mining interests. In the face of rising populist demands for agrarian-land reform and closer south-south relationships they decided to pre-empt any surprises. Ramaphosa's very deceitful and is probably scheming in this intl' dossier to placate the ANC youth league ahead of coming elections.

Posted by: Augustin L | May 14 2018 19:52 utc | 9

Enjoy it you f'n vampires, your day will come one day.

Posted by: Ahmed | May 14 2018 19:57 utc | 10

The attitude of the Israelis vis a vis Palestinians is strikingly similar to that of the Ukrainians vs. East Ukrainians or Russians: Kill them all, for they are not human beings.

Posted by: WorldBLee | May 14 2018 19:57 utc | 11

Since Zanon's (2) linked to Craig Murray's site, I wonder if anyone else has been unable to access the site.

For the past two or three days, when I click on a link or my bookmark, Murray's home page appears for a microsecond, then is replaced by a blank white screen that "loads" or spins endlessly.

FWIW, I'm not getting any error messages or warnings from my anti-script or adblocking software. I know Murray's site is periodically attacked, but I appreciate any feedback on this problem. Thanks.

Posted by: Ort | May 14 2018 20:08 utc | 12

Dehumanization of the other is absolutely required for a satisfactory band wagon propaganda campaign. Here in the USA, Trump's apparent racism and bigotry directs his true believers in that direction. Bigots and Racists have become emboldened since the election of Orange Trump.

In politics, I am reminded of Lee Atwater's death bed confession.

Not a fan of Obama, either. He didn't do anything to help blacks and other minority groups (though some believe he did), while he did a whole lot of killing and destruction.

Posted by: fastfreddy | May 14 2018 20:10 utc | 13

It's Iran's fault, of course, according to Shin Bet (internal intelligence)
The Times of Israel

Iran is funding Hamas’s violent campaign at Gaza border, Shin Bet says
“From the information we have, it appears Hamas is encouraging and sending protesters to the border fence in order to carry out violent acts and damage security infrastructure. In addition, it was found that Iran is providing funding to Hamas in order for it to carry out these violent activities along the Gaza Strip’s border fence,” the Shin Bet said.
The IDF is particularly concerned that the demonstrations will see mass border breaches, in which Palestinians, including Hamas members, would stream across the border and wreak havoc in nearby Israeli communities — attacking residents, setting fires and destroying property.. . here

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 14 2018 20:19 utc | 14

Assassinations of Hamas may be next (a US technique, BTW)
The Times of Israel

Israel threatens to kill Hamas leaders if riots continue — report
Terror group vows revenge after deadly day of clashes, as Netanyahu defends army's handling of violent protests.
Israel has reportedly warned Hamas that it will resume assassinations of the terror group’s leaders if Hamas continues to organize clashes on the Gaza border. The terror group, meanwhile, vowed revenge after Monday’s deadly riots.
“If the protests continue, the assassinations will return,” Hadashot TV news quoted security officials as saying in a message sent to Hamas via Egypt. . here

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 14 2018 20:27 utc | 15

Ort | May 14, 2018 4:08:14 PM | 12

No problems for me. I'm using Opera.

Posted by: Ian | May 14 2018 20:27 utc | 16

@12 ort.. my computer froze up after i opened the link to craigs story.. i had to shut it down and begin again.. i have yet to read craig murrays article.....

of course it is israels birthday today - may 14th...

it seems such a shame how the usa is so beholden to israel/zionism at this point..

Posted by: james | May 14 2018 20:28 utc | 17

Big Lie Media and its government partners will lie until they lack breath but in no way can they throw enough dirt on the Zionist's actions to bury them for what they most truly are--Holocaust! Not merely a massacre but yet another episode in the ongoing Zionist Genocide of Palestinians of all confessional types aside from Jewish, but even Jews who don't fit the correct ethnic profile--i.e. Negroid African Jews from Sudan--are subject to similar though not fatal abuses--yet. And all NATO nations with the exception of Turkey are guilty of aiding and abetting this most heinous, ongoing crime of Genocide. It must be noted that aside from Palestinians the only other Muslim nations I know of that have condemned this Genocide for what it is are Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, and Turkey. The Turks are the most outspoken so far calling the ongoing Genocide "State Terror." You'd have thought the Arab League would have already met; but thanks to KSA, I don't see much of anything occurring thanks to the new alliance between the GCC and Zionist Abomination.

Oh, have you seen any of the many photos of massive Zionist arms and ammo provided to Syria's terrorists. Since Ghouta's liberation, I've seen at least a dozen very large caches of weaponry and ammo furnished by Zionists, easily seen with their Hebrew lettering. One shot showed an entire acre-sized parking lot filled with 105mm howitzer shells, which I was trying to link to. I think the discovery of these many caches was one of the factors that changed the SAA's RoE with the Zionists, for they reveal the very deep linkages between the terrorists and their Zionist sponsors.

Turkey just recalled its Zionist and Outlaw US Empire ambassadors.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 14 2018 20:28 utc | 18

Now-powerful Israel should do well to reread some of its past prophets. Or to listen to the quite similar wisdom of the great philosopher Tuco Benedicto Pacífico Juan María Ramírez: I like big fat men like you. When they fall, they make more noise, and sometimes they never get up.
But I suppose Israeli hubris will only let them see that wisdom when they're on the ground and can't get up.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | May 14 2018 20:28 utc | 19

Turkey has recalled its ambassadors to Israel and US

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | May 14 2018 20:29 utc | 20

Posted by: RUKidding | May 14, 2018 3:15:08 PM | 3

"How low can we/the USA sink?"

The so-called US embassy is currently only a consulate. Even worse, the site is not in the Israeli part of Jerusalem, rather it is over the Green Line in the Palestian part (or 'disputed' as the Zionists would have it) of Jerusalem.

Does the Haircut in Search of a Brain know this? Does he even care?

On the plus side, Trump is being honored by the Beitar Jerusalem football team. They will be known as Beitar Trump Jerusalem. Their fans are renowned as the racists' racists.

Posted by: Yonatan | May 14 2018 20:40 utc | 21

‘Gruesome propaganda attempt’: White House blames Hamas for Gaza deaths

These people are so sick...

Posted by: Zanon | May 14 2018 20:43 utc | 22

It has been unimaginable to me that I would see this much damage to the US led Empire in my lifetime. The damage to the US on every level is astonishing from this move and the reneging on the JCPOA. People are suffering, but people suffer under any scenario. The US has killed people every single day for the past 73+ years and it is time they stopped. The more damage Trump does the better.

Posted by: Babyl-on | May 14 2018 20:47 utc | 23

re: Craig Murray site
Have you guys tried to directly enter his site by typing out his URL? I searched for Craig Murray site via Yandex and was able to access his website. Maybe the problem is the link that was posted here on MoA (which I haven't tried because I don't know where it was posted).

Posted by: Ian | May 14 2018 20:48 utc | 24

from Hurriyet, Turkey
US has lost its status as mediator in Middle East peace process with embassy move: Erdoğan

The U.S. has lost its status as a potential mediator in the Middle East peace process with its decision to move its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said on May 14.
“[The U.S. decision to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem] is unfortunate. We cannot help but feel like we are living through the dark times prior to World War II,” Erdoğan said at an event at the Chatham House think tank in London.
Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdağ also said on May 14 that Washington “shares responsibility” with Israel for the “massacre” along the Gaza border that left at least 37 Palestinians dead as a result of Israeli fire.
"The U.S. administration is just as responsible as the Israeli government for this massacre,” Bozdağ wrote on Twitter, saying the incidents were caused by “unjust and unlawful decisions” as the United States moves its embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 14 2018 20:49 utc | 25

The only violent aspect of Hamas's campaign is the terror visited upon it by the Zionists, which is plain even in the propaganda videos. I know there're people within Zion that protest the Genocide, but I'm finding it hard not to condemn every immigrant to Palestine guilty.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 14 2018 20:50 utc | 26

Peter AU 1 @20:

So I guess Erdogan really did switch sides. Interesting that he's still getting the F-35, or will the recall cancel his order?

Posted by: Ian | May 14 2018 20:52 utc | 27

@Zanon 22:

Here in the YEW ESS AAY, the bullies, aka Trump & his bigoted racist sexist homophobic "flock," consistently employ the "blame the victim" stance for everything. Classic bullying tactic. So no surprise "they" are blaming Hamas for being murdered by Israeli's.

That's why USA so-called "Evangelicals" love Trump so much: they see him as the UR-Bully who'll "protect" them from everything and everyone who is allegedly "attacking" them and their religulousness every minute of every day. That also works well to keep these so-called "reglious" people continuing to support a known adulterer who enjoys the favors of porn stars while his third wife is recovering from child birth. Of course the Evangelical "preachers" gave Trump a mulligan because: CHA CHING.

These people are craven grifters of the first degree, and they simply don't care who gets murdered in their rush to worship the Golden Calf. Of course, it's the Evangelicals - in addition to craven creeps like Shelley Adelson - who want the Consulate to be in Jersulam because it means Armegeddon is nigh.

One can only hope that the Rapture happens very soon. Get these flaming shitholes offa the planet QUICK! Not kidding. Wish it was that easy.

Posted by: RUKidding | May 14 2018 20:58 utc | 28

We are witnessing an amazing slow motion train wreck of humanity based on mythological underpinnings.

This is when the aliens are suppose to arrive and ask, "What is this stupid monotheism faith you folks are breathing and why are you threatening your species because of it?"

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 14 2018 21:06 utc | 29

12 - This works for me -

Posted by: Bart Hansen | May 14 2018 21:07 utc | 30

I seldom have issues getting onto Murray's site with IE8. Murray's two entries for today point out the choice of terms Big Lie media use to continue its Big Lie: "If you look through the Google search of News this time for “clashes” [instead of massacre], you discover that the western and Israeli media peculiarly have precisely the same preference for this entirely inappropriate word. That, again, is fascinating." Concluding his first entry, Craig intones this important point: "In order to help redress the terrible agony of the Palestinians, we must first effect a change in our own system of elite exploitation of the people at home. [My Emphasis] His second entry deals with how the group “Labour Friends of Israel” is no more than a stenographer for Big Lie Zionist propaganda, demanding that Labour immediately cut its ties to this obviously racist, demented, genocidal organization.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 14 2018 21:07 utc | 31

On Msnbc, one pundit called the protests "human wave attacks".

Posted by: sleepy | May 14 2018 21:11 utc | 32

So I assume that the Israelis built this new embassy building for their benefactors (no doubt funded 2 or 3 times over by the US taxpayers)? So we can assume that any and all conversations held within its walls will be known to the Israelis as they happen? Normally the construction of an embassy building for the US takes several years doesn't it? I was looking for pictures of it on the web and couldn't come up with any other than a closeup showing the seal and Trump's name. "Trump Tower, Jerusalem"

Posted by: the pessimist | May 14 2018 21:15 utc | 33

ian - ort - i can access c murrays site now..

Posted by: james | May 14 2018 21:16 utc | 34

Garrie provides a small collection of recent tweets and statements by Erdogan and Turkish government, which is following me in calling Zionists acts Genocide. The Turks have vowed to send aid to Gaza; but in light of recent history, they'll need to send their entire Navy and provide it with 100% air cover. Erdogan should never have entered into a rapprochement with the Zionists or their scheme along with the Outlaw US Empire to overthrow Assad.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 14 2018 21:19 utc | 35

It's Iran's fault ... Don Bacon @14

Of course, and I can't wait for stooges like Sean Hannity to say 'Thank you Obama for giving the #1 sponsor of terrorism $150B to fund even more terrorism ...' because as we all know, only billions of $ can explain when people, who are penned in like sheep at a slaughterhouse, push up against a fence.

Posted by: Christian Chuba | May 14 2018 21:23 utc | 36

ChristianChuba @14

From the Times of Israel, we are told that there have been ZERO instances of militants using the "terror tunnels" to target Israeli civilians. Yes, mostly for smuggling, but also for military use following Israeli military aggressions.

"The tunnel infiltration attacks have all had similar characteristics. In each case, as with the June 2006 abduction of Gilad Shalit, the operatives surfaced several hundred meters within Israel and several hundred meters away from a civilian settlement . In each case anti-tank missiles were fired at soldiers, either in passing vehicles or static posts.

"An additional security source noted that, as in the Shalit case, the Hamas operatives have surfaced in areas “where there is constant military activity.”

Posted by: Daniel | May 14 2018 21:28 utc | 37

Posted on the Open Thread also, but most relevant to this discussion:

All day Sunday, May 13, RT showed a report on the Gaza protests presented by Israeli “journalist,” Yael Shir.

Amongst other hasbara, she claims Palestinians “threw grenades at IDF soldiers.” “riots have been escalating” “kites as weapons” and “flames across the border.” “IDF has responded with tear gas.” Not one word about IOF snipers.

This “journalist” has a pretty thin online presence.

I find her Twitter account was created in December, 2016, and has a grand total of 4 Tweets (nothing news related):

This seems to be her Facebook, though it says she lives in New York. Still, all of her “friends” appear to share ethnicity and many write in Hebrew.

Her “news anchor” identity seems to come solely from an internet “show” that extends all the way back to 2 months ago! Total of 11 “shows.”

Here's Yael Shir's internet "news" show. The best she got was 14 views for one.

Isn't this sort of stuff the sort of thing we're told to look for to identify "bots?"

I can find no news articles written by her, or really anything else at all. Is she even a thing?

BTW: “Yael” is Ivanka Trump/Kushner’s chosen Jewish name. She and hubby are in Israel today to be the official White House representatives at the opening of the US Embassy in Jerusalem (which is actually just the renaming of some offices they have had there for years).

Posted by: Daniel | May 14 2018 21:31 utc | 38

This didn't look good for Trump and his brood. The brood standing proud, while people are shot to death.

Posted by: Laguerre | May 14 2018 21:36 utc | 39

Strange. I honestly thought we had broken ties with Israel already, two weeks ago, after the last massacre. I even posted something here to that effect. Diplomatic ties between S.Africa and Israel have been severely strained for years, for good reason. The hypocrisy involved in the Western take on this is breathtakingly transparent. Everybody over here can see it; and by the way, it was never about race. Its always been about money and power. World sanctions on S.Africa because a major section of society did not enjoy the freedom to speak and move and operate freely in their own country. Outrageous that the same is not applied to Israel, and here we feel it, deeply. Its offensive to anybody paying attention.
There are many things about this country that I love, but the fact that it has not lost its memory is one.
Boycott those idiots at every turn. Never buy anything that comes from that shit hole. Never bank or do business with any company that has any connection whatsoever to Israel, until they start behaving like human beings. Make a point of telling people why, and always make the association to South African apartheid. There is not much to argue about there.
If a small economy like South Africa has the balls to tell those cunts to behave, so can everybody else. No excuses. This has nothing to do with Zionism, its pure brainwashed psychopathy. I can relate, because growing up in apartheid was a real struggle. At every turn I had to argue and fight, until giving in to a moralistic approach that I hated actually became appealing. Fortunately, I had the strength of mind to resist. A lot of Those Israeli kids seem the same. They simply cannot avoid the ugly truth, and as the world shrinks, they start to see the woods from the trees. But only public protest can change the status quo there, and I don't mean the public protests in Israel. Europe, grow a pair. Australia, grow a pair.
America is a lost cause, but slowly, thanks to Trump, the rest of the world is starting to glean just that.

Behaving like fucking Ubermensch should never be rewarded. Woulda thought they had learned that by now....

Posted by: dan | May 14 2018 21:40 utc | 40

@28 RUK - Rapture or not, those a**holes aren't going anyway other than Hell as they are NOT Christians

Posted by: xLemming | May 14 2018 21:51 utc | 41

Daniel@38, this is probably her:

Posted by: the pessimist | May 14 2018 21:55 utc | 42

Today , we continue to witness great moments in MAGA history : American Embassy moved to Jerusalem
1. Through the looking glass of The Donald's Wonderland objects appear bigger than in real life;
a-sometimes huge ,when in fact ,they are almost non existent ; like MAGA
b-others are humongous in real life and look non existent through the looking glass ; like America's Khazarian problem
c-the American Embassy move to Jerusalem has the outstanding quality of making a. and b. collide ; like matter and antimatter; they annihilate each other
d- the Donald 's twitting mind can not comprehend Quantum Physics
e-like the Uncertainty Principle : we now know the position of American Embassy in Jerusalem; it's impossible to know the speed of the blowback .
f-like the Quantum Entanglement : MAGA and MIGA can not be in the same state ,they can " have their states superimposed over each of them" ,but this could lead to the " waveform collapse" ; we have to wait and see which one . I have my suspicions.
g-for me,the main question is this : is the Schrodinger black cat dead or alive after this Jerusalem move? Depending on who is opening the Pandora box ;
-from the Jews' perspective ,the cat is alive and ,on top ,is rabid
-from the Arabs' perspective ,the cat is dead and smelly
-from the world's perspective , this is " a bag of cats"
h- Einstein , a jew that opposed the creation of a Jewish State said this "“The (Israeli) state idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is connected with many difficulties and a narrow-mindedness. I believe it is bad.” But he was a real genius , not a self proclaimed stable one . He was also a pacifist not a zionist.
His comments about this moment would have triggered America to put pressure and remove his Nobel Prize (we have Bolton for this ; he's good at threatening people).
h-when Einstein said that " God does not play dice with the Universe" he obviously did not predict the Donald's America and Netanyahu's Israel. But ,then again , he did not know that those dice are thrown by Satan himself.
2. America is always hyperactive; it can not mind its own business : it has no business left standing at home ; so ,it always finds some business abroad to meddle in and destroy.
3. If it can not build something at home, to improve the lives of its citizens ,why not make the foreigners ' lives miserable ? America is very good at this,it has a great tradition and practice .
4.We all know by now that YHWH is a real estate magnate : he gave the chosen the Holy Land;
-mortgage free ; no interest ; no down payment
- well, there were some attached clauses and conditions about live your life in a righteousness way, do not harm,leave room for spirituality and morals ,not only materialism , peace and harmony , but those were written in small print and lost when the Bible was translated from the Sumerian tablets to Zionism.
-then ,it was the Jesus moment : he came to preach Peace and cooperation , a spiritual life ,morals ; he was an exceptional man and could read not only the small print ,but he could read people , past ,present and future events ; and he gave a warning ;in vain ; he finished his terrestrial existence prematurely ,because he promoted Peace and Virtue
-the payment was past due in 70 AD; the result was the loss of all real estate and life .
-the few survivors found a receptive people to convert to the phariseeism ; and the rest is zionist history
5.The Donald could not resist in trying his hand at real estate again ,even if this is a losing one. He 's having a "deal with YHWH himself".He is applying the eminent domain to the Palestinians and Christians in Jerusalem ,with no payment for their loss, the American way.
6. Prepare to see Who's Who in the zionist world immortalize this moment ,including the first daughter , Yael ; look carefully ; it may come in handy next time in Jerusalem
7. From an eschatological point of view :The Whore of Babylon ,America , who's pregnant with the Beast,rides the Beast to Jerusalem and makes Jerusalem ready for the birth of the AntiChrist . I suspect the Whore of Babylon is going to die in childbirth. RIP.

Posted by: veritas semper vincit | May 14 2018 21:57 utc | 43

Trump's family applauds massacre? What about coward Trump appearing on a giant screen like Big Brother in 1984???

I hardly see Trump's name equated with this depravity in Jerusalem and Gaza in any post. Don't be afraid to speak it: TRUMP IS A ZIONIST. The fish rots from the head (of the family)! Trump has become the mangod of Zionism. He's a blowhard sleaze who slept his way and bragged about his exploits while others had to send their children to war. He's everything dumb Americans deserve and Zionists dreamed of.

He's bullying and threatening European companies not to do business with Iran as he'll bully and threaten Palestinians to sign on to a grand swindle. He'll squeeze them dry to get his deal and cares less they're already impoverished. He's exactly what Zionists wanted for President. Trump is stomping on the last hope for justice Palestinians are bravely keeping alive. What a tawdry, disgraceful bargain and means to an end some Trump supporters here bought into, and now the usual periodic lip service on Israel's acts; such blatant hypocrisy. Arrgh.

Posted by: Circe | May 14 2018 21:57 utc | 44

RUKidding, I cherish the invitation I received for an "Après-Rapture" party.

I hear from some Evangelicals that they support Trump because they believe he will bring the End Times. Some even think him as the "Anti-Christ," but still support him because they don't care about anything except the goal of bringing the Battle of Armageddon, etc.

Of course, Israeli Zionists are happy to utilize these religious fanatics for their goals in the same way. A bunch of delusional supremacists all believing different and even contradictory things, but with the same goals could be the end of us all yet.

Posted by: Daniel | May 14 2018 22:05 utc | 45

@veritas #43:

My wife tells me that "...having been sold a bag of cats..." is the Javanese version of "...having been sold a bill of goods..."

Posted by: Dr. Wellington Yueh | May 14 2018 22:07 utc | 46

Circe 44

Well said!

Posted by: CarlD | May 14 2018 22:08 utc | 47

re Craigmurray link, I solved the problem by disabling adblockers.

Posted by: Kenny | May 14 2018 22:10 utc | 48

psychohistorian @29

Have you heard about "Project Blue Beam?" The basic concept is a plan to use high tech holograms, sound cannons that project voices INTO people's heads, etc. to simulate an alien arrival/invasion.

The goal (as President Reagan envisioned on numerous occasions) would be to unite humankind under a Global World Order.

Posted by: Daniel | May 14 2018 22:10 utc | 49

Turkey has not only recalled its Israeli ambassador but also its US ambassador

Posted by: From the resistance | May 14 2018 22:12 utc | 50

Statement on the atrocities committed by IDS by Jeremy Corbyn:

Yasser Fathi, freelance photographer From Gaza who took this iconic photo, was shot today in the stomach while wearing a bulletproof PRESS vest covering #Gaza. This is how Israeli forces are responding to press and photographers at #GreatMarchReturn protesting #USEmbassyJerusalem

These tweets sums up today's massacre:

Dublin mayor urges Eurovision boycott as Israel commits another massacre

Posted by: jsb | May 14 2018 22:14 utc | 51

Ian@5 and Augustin L@9
I don't have a link, but its on record that the reason S. Africa abstained from voting in the UN Libya debacle was because Mbheki had been threatened with color revolution if he voted against it. Word has it that the warning came directly from Hillary. Also, one of these unmentionable (in this case Danish) banks predictions for 2018 was color revolution in S. Africa.

I am not sure that Cyril Ramaphosa is it, or even, for that matter, that he is in charge. It would seem so for now, but wait. The ANC still has a lot of depth. If he starts to move away from China, that will be a dead giveaway.
I am always fascinated by how all over the world, politicians make it to their posts by proclaiming change of whatever sorts, and once they "get into power" they start behaving. Mandela was no different. The only remnant of the Freedom Charter is a monument somewhere in Soweto...
I liked Zuma, warts and all. But the glaringly obvious truth is that it makes almost fuckall difference who is president here, on the larger scale of things. They all seem to be subservient to forces much greater than themselves, and end up looking and behaving like spokespeople for the elite, while "championing" socialist causes that rarely come to fruition.
However, this whole diplomatic slap for Israel gives me cause to believe that the ANC roots still have plenty sway. God knows somebody needed to say something, and I think S. Africa holds good sway with the rest of Southern Africa. But I don't doubt for a second that our punishment will be slow and painful.

Posted by: dan | May 14 2018 22:17 utc | 52

pessimist @ 33

This US “Embassy” is really just a few offices in a long-existing US Consulate building. The US hasn’t even picked a location for the planned real Embassy building.

But yeah, one can bet that every signal of every sort coming from any foreigners in Israel can be precisely monitored and recorded. In fact, through Unit 8200 and Operation Talpiot, the Israeli Secret Intelligence Services likely have their digital fingers in every bit of internet-capable equipment everywhere on earth.

Can you say “kill switch?” I think that may be one of the reasons Israel (really the supra-national bankster cabal) get to do whatever they want, wherever they want.

Add in the “Samson Option” of nuclear weapons ready to take out capital cities globally and good old fashioned Roy Cohn blackmail evidence and much of the news of the world comes into focus.

Posted by: Daniel | May 14 2018 22:22 utc | 53

If you ever wanted to know what it was like to be an Indian in America after US govt was born...go hang out in the Gaza Concentration Camp...

same lame excuses and lies...same brutality..."we had to kill you because you got angry when we forced you out of your homes and off your ancestral lands"...

Its no wonder the U$A supports the Zionists in this...same shait...different century...

an abomination...



Posted by: oldenyoung | May 14 2018 22:24 utc | 54

pessimist @42

Yes, I saw a linkedin for that name, but I cancelled my registration there years ago. Does it look like she's a real journalist with a real record of doing journalism?

Posted by: Daniel | May 14 2018 22:30 utc | 55


Bury My Heart AT Wounded Palestine

Posted by: dan | May 14 2018 22:30 utc | 56

Jared's insanely dishonest and triumphalist Victory Speech/ Gloatfest was entirely predictable from the instant Trump announced the (illegal & offensively stupid) relocation of the US Embassy to Jerusalem. He knew exactly what he was doing because he knows that if you give Zionists an inch, they'll take a mile.

Now the whole world knows and can see what Trump wanted everyone to know and see. i.e. The bloodthirsty "Israelis" are completely, utterly insane. Trump gave them enough rope to hang themselves and they almost killed each other in the scramble to be first to shove their heads in the noose. It's a bit worse for "Israel" than Trump could have imagined because he couldn't have known that "The most moral army in the world" would in the middle of a Slaughter and Maim-fest when the time came to gloat about their 'victory' in Jerusalem.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 14 2018 22:41 utc | 57

"There will be a day for the oppressor when he will be crushed like garlic." - Palestinian proverb

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 14 2018 22:54 utc | 58

For anybody who is interested in the Trump/Syria/Rothschild connection...

Circe has taken a ton of shit on this subject, but has been right. Sorry Jackrabbit, I still love you man.

Posted by: dan | May 14 2018 23:01 utc | 59

When Mel Brooks gets around to opening an off-Broadway musical-comedy called The MoneyChangers, with songs like Springtime for Zionists, Oh How Sweet Media Control Is, and Fireworks With White Phosphors, then will I write about Jews, not before.

Otherwise, it’s futile. I can travel all the way to Poland to polish my Polish jokes, but if I crack one joke about Babylonian-banking-kikes, (an in-group,) the next day, suddenly, the Anti-Defamation League taps on my door.

Further, even if I write with such great razzmatazz that I should be given the highest literary honor possible, the publishing industry, controlled by Jews, will require that I include at least fifteen pages on the Holocaust, citing Zionist historians who over-rely upon personal anecdotes, some debunked.

Don’t get me wrong. Concentration camps were loaded with Jews in Nazi Germany. This was state-sponsored Anti-Semitism, and merciless. Fifteen Years. At the end, hundreds of thousands of innocent people died in work camps, largely from typhus and starvation, and numberless Jews were otherwise exterminated, but that Nazi ferocity is put into perspective, with all my German-shame mitigated, by the way the Israelis are now conducting a slow, calculated, state sponsored genocide upon the Palestinians.

I expect ten thousand honest Jewish intellectuals to speak-up and put a stop to unbridled Zionism.

But, unfortunately, who am I kidding?

Posted by: DineroDProfit | May 14 2018 23:05 utc | 60

You just finding out Trump was Red Shield now ?
My, my, thirty minutes on the internet before the election could have told you.
They gave you their normal choice:Heads they win,tails you lose.
The Zappa prophecy is about to be fullfilled,hope you like brick walls.

Posted by: Winston | May 14 2018 23:08 utc | 61

What Zappa prophecy was that?
Pardon my ignorance...

Posted by: dan | May 14 2018 23:12 utc | 62

I'm looking into my crystal ball and lo! What do I see! T-90s and BMPs moving over Golan into Northern Palestine sweeping all resistance aside. While at the same time a massive rebellion erupts in Jordan with thousands of Palestinian refugees pouring into the East Bank and turning Jordanian army weaponry into their own. Perhaps.....

Events have a way of rendering former antagonists into allies: Palestine is the event, Syria and Turkey the antagonists. Someone needs to knock Assad's and Erdogan's heads together and make them see they have a mutual enemy in the Zionists and their one ally the Outlaw US Empire; and that the only way their for their future security to be peaceful, the problem of Palestine must be resolved once and for all time--the Zionists must leave. Period. Very clearly, the Zionists are the root of all evil in Palestine aside from their Imperialist benefactors, France and UK/US.

If you reside in any NATO nation, your taxes are paying for the ongoing Genocide of Palestinians. Does it feel good to be an accomplice to Genocide? No? Then why are you continuing to pay taxes? Genocide is Terrorism to the nth degree. Laws exist against abetting either, so why are you breaking laws? "Just following orders" doesn't cut it as a defense. Either you give a damn and take a stand, or you abet the carnage--You can't be neutral on a moving train, a man with high moral integrity once said.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 14 2018 23:14 utc | 63

Daniel@55 'media' type.

"I am a multimedia journalist and filmmaker with a passion for compelling, cinematic storytelling. I began as a producer at ABC News for the news magazine show 20/20 in New York and continued as a reporter for NPR News in New Orleans. I have directed, written, and produced over two dozen films. I worked as a casting-producer for the A&E network and as a post-production supervisor at Paramount Pictures. After moving to Israel in December 2016, I worked as the news anchor at IBA Channel 1. I received a bachelors degree from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and a masters degree from Columbia University."


Israel Public Broadcasting
January 2017 – Present (1 year 5 months)Israel

Multimedia journalist and anchor for Israel Public Broadcasting
Ascension Media
September 2013 – December 2016 (3 years 4 months)Greater New York City Area

Reporter and Producer at News Media Company
Paramount Pictures
March 2011 – August 2013 (2 years 6 months)Greater Los Angeles Area
NPR News
January 2009 – March 2011 (2 years 3 months)Greater New Orleans Area

News reporter and producer
Columbia University in the City of New York
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Posted by: the pessimist | May 14 2018 23:18 utc | 65

tim anderson
‏ @timand2037
7m7 minutes ago

The real David and Goliath. #PalestineAt70 v #ApartheidIsrael

Posted by: brian | May 14 2018 23:24 utc | 66

@62, dan, we're all ignorant. The Zappa quote referred to is: “The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

Posted by: George Lane | May 14 2018 23:30 utc | 67

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion… We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effects of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.

Illustrious Albert Pike 33°
Letter 15 August 1871
Addressed to Grand Master Guiseppie Mazzini 33°
Archives British Museum
London, England

Posted by: Pft | May 14 2018 23:35 utc | 68

DineroDProfit @60

I try to be empathetic with the Jewish people - whom I believe may be the only population drowning in more and more effective propaganda than USAmericans. And I do not deny that Jew-Hatred is a real thing, and has been for at least many hundreds of years, sporadically breaking out in unspeakable acts of violence and horror.

But I also have come to see that some of the Holocaust tales are exaggerations or complete fictions. eg. How can the official Holycaust/Shoa Business organizations change the number of Jews killed at Auschwitz from 4 million to 1.1 million “mostly Jews” and yet the total number of “six million” remains unchanged?

Even many of the Jewish intellectuals/historians who have done the important work of unveiling the horrendously evil acts of Zionists in creating/maintaining the Jewish State of Israel in the Levant, defend those acts as necessary “ends justifying the means.”

I’m referring specifically to Edwin Black who was once hated by Zionists for making public the Haavara (Transfer) Agreement signed by European Zionists and German Nazi leadership, and Benni Morris who proved that Zionists ethnically cleansed the coming Israel in systematic acts of terrorism (including frequent gang-rape of girls usually followed by their murders) and that at no time were Palestinian leaders calling for the indigenous people to abandon their homes.

Almost all of the Jewish people fighting for Palestinian rights are still coming from a Zionist perspective which at best calls for Israel to permit a relatively tiny Palestinian State with only partial sovereignty. I appreciate that even that is a difficult row to hoe, and any light shown on the suffering of the Palestinian people is helpful.

There are some Jewish people who wholly disavow the very existence of JSIL, including a goodly percentage of the indigenous Palestinian Jews and others of a Messianic ideology, and a small but I believe growing number of more or less secular Jews who have managed to lift the veil (more like a heavy stage curtain) to see the simple reality.

Still, whenever there is an “Islamic Terrorist” attack, we are told to ask why Muslims don’t speak out against it (though many always have), and yet we never hear the same question asked of Jews when JSIL commits war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Can we? Is the atmosphere clear enough that such questions can be permitted on larger media platforms?

Posted by: Daniel | May 14 2018 23:57 utc | 69

pessimist @65. Thanks for quoting what's written on her Linkedin. Since I could not find a single news article written by her posted online, were you able to find and read any of that robust cv?

Again, on the links I could find, she showed no interest in "news" except on a 2-month old internet "program" with almost no views and no subscribers. This looks like a fraudulent creation of exactly the sort RussiaGate keeps warning us about.

Posted by: Daniel | May 15 2018 0:07 utc | 70

George Lane @67

I love Zappa. Thanks for the full quote.
But pray tell, what the fuck does that mean? That one day, they wont be able to sustain the illusion anymore, so they'll just murder us all, and our brief glimpse of the wall is the last thing we see? Or, maybe, one day they might just run out of resources and allow us to see whats been going on while they quietly retreat to some backwater Argentinian swamp while we burn each other alive?
Plato's cave analogy?

Posted by: dan | May 15 2018 0:17 utc | 71

The Israelis have become what they've railed against all these years since WW2, Fascist murderers, and genocidal maniacs..

Posted by: ben | May 15 2018 0:27 utc | 72

pessimist. Do you know about IMDB? It's a website that does a very good job of listing all films/TV shows and everyone involved in them. As Yael's Linkedin says she's directed/produced etc. 2 dozen films, I figured that'd be a good search to do.

Here's what a search for Yael Shir produces:

There are two. One acted in two TV shows and the other directed 4 minor films from 2012-2015 that appear to be romantic/romcoms. Nothing relevant to being a journalist given time on RT to explain the Right To Return March/Protests from an entirely pro-Zionist perspective.

Posted by: Daniel | May 15 2018 0:29 utc | 73

dan @71, I've always taken that Zappa quote to mean that TPTSB give us a facade of freedom. But the moment that facade crumbles, and a significant number of us "wake up," then the Police State that has been created will step forward and crush any resistance.

As Noam Chomsky (and others) have long said, "mind control" is only necessary in a democracy. Tyrants don't care what people think because they can force people to do whatever is wanted. But when people have the ability to alter actions of the State, then Edward Bernay's "conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses" becomes valuable.

But once the workings of Bernays' "unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country" no longer control us, then good old fashioned tyranny comes into play.

Quotes from Bernays' 1929 book, "Propaganda."

Posted by: Daniel | May 15 2018 0:36 utc | 74

@71 dan, good question... My reading has always been the basic and banal one that when the illusion, when the lies that sustain the façade of the humanitarian and free Empire, become too difficult or simply impossible to maintain, then the mask will be pulled off, and we will be left with the proverbial view of the naked emperor. Nonetheless, the more interesting implication is that what effect this has is an open question, and, in my more paranoiac moments, I see the Trump phenomenon as a way precisely to bring this whole curtain down whilst entrenching the power of this "Deep State", or whatever your preferred term is. Since the campaign, we have seen examples of this, from the open cheering on of the CIA and FBI by mainstream media (recall the Vanity Fair article which essentially had that sentiment as its headline) to the open running of former intelligence and military personnel on the Democratic Party ticket in the 2018 elections, as well as the open hiring of such shameless figures as James Clapper and John Brennan to analyst positions on CNN and MSNBC; enough of the popultion is, whether consciously or unconsciously, okay with these blatantly Orwellian measures because of the hysteria created around "Trump" and "Russia", although this process of bringing the manipulative and fundamentally undemocratic nature of our free neoliberal capitalist and liberal democratic society out into the open can of course be traced to before "Trump" was ever even a question.

This can be seen also in wide-scoped British media's coordinated propaganda campaign against those questioning the accepted wisdom on Skripal and Douma, targeting journalists, academics, bloggers, and private citizens, with its absurd peak of accusing a Syrian-Australian woman and a senior British citizen to be automated troll acounts run by the Kremlin. The mask is inexorably disintegrating, but whether this will lead to a "mass awakening" or simply a deeper entrenchment of the efficacy of the social control (remember that ideology functions even better sometimes when it is not directly believed in, and its contradictions are open and well-known), remains to be seen.

Posted by: George Lane | May 15 2018 0:41 utc | 75

Ben @72. If you look at the writings/speeches of earlier Zionists like Theodor Hertsl, Vladimir Jabotinsky (whose chief aide was PM NuttyYahoo’s daddy), Menachem Begin, Ariel Sharon, etc. you’ll see that they have always been fascistic murderers and genocidal maniacs.

Posted by: Daniel | May 15 2018 0:46 utc | 76


A 'media' type does not = hard news reporter. Her CV seems inflated to me (as would be typical on Linkedin profiles). She claims now to be a reporter but her experience is probably more in line with the creation of media with a purpose or message. "I am a multimedia journalist and filmmaker with a passion for compelling, cinematic storytelling." You see? 'news' recast as 'storytelling'.

That IS her profile, there is nothing more of consequence available. I didn't come up with any news stories, and when she lists "reporter" it is "reporter/producer" - fluff/bs IMO.

Posted by: the pessimist | May 15 2018 0:48 utc | 77

Has anyone here pointed out how absent discussion of this situation is at the UN?

There was no meeting of the Security Council after last weeks Israel attack and I have not heard of any....anyone else. It confirms my opinion of the bought circus that the UN has unfortunately been corrupted to.

Geo-political conversation now consists of expelling ambassadors. The last I heard there were two....any others with human morals?

And some call this civilization.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 15 2018 0:52 utc | 78

@78, psychohistorian, yes certainly, and of course also it seems after the nausea-inducing Nikki Haley vetoed the declaration condemning yet another concerted brutal massacre of Palestinaians after the first week of the protests, the UN has been totally silent. As you say another example of the "international community" being a euphemism for "US-led hegemonic opinion".

Posted by: George Lane | May 15 2018 0:58 utc | 79


"Do you know about IMDB?" Did you look at what you linked? Same producer, editor, cinematographer, no cast or crew, no release dates for all titles. A poser. Left NYC and moved 'home' to Israel...

Posted by: the pessimist | May 15 2018 1:04 utc | 80

From an article on this, I noticed a printed sign on a building int he background about Trump making Israel great. It's bad enough Israel minted coins that link what Trump did to the biblical story of Cyrus returning Jews to Israel and rebuilding the Temple. Shameless. Another article made a point about Trump keeping his promises. Yes he made lots of them at AIPAC but what about the one to "preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States?"

The old South Africa partnered with Israel on various things including nukes. It looks like the new one doesn't want to be a partner to the prime antagonist of the Middle East.

Posted by: Curtis | May 15 2018 1:06 utc | 81

dan @59: Sorry Jackrabbit, I still love you man.

When Circe initially came to MoA just after the 2016 Presidential election, his hair-on-fire criticism of Trump resembled that of 'Never Trump' agitator. He also made some outlandish statements that were easy to debunk. In short, he wasn't credible - and I was not the only one to call him out.

In the months that followed, I soured on Trump (as did many others) and I slowly came to see him as the Republican Obama. Not as a metaphor but as a fact: many aspects of the Trump 'phenomena' matched those of the Obama phenomena. Only the audience had changed. Some examples:

Obama: most transparent administration in history
Trump: clean the swamp

Obama: Leave Iraq and Afghanistan; close Guantanamo

I termed these similarities the "faux populist leader" model.

I also came to believe that Trump's election was intended. Although it was meant to appear that he had bested Hillary, that is difficult for close observer to believe. As I explained recently on a different thread: despite a great deal of anger in the country, there were only two populists running for President. And one of those (Sanders) was a sheepdog for Hillary. Despite his meek bungling, so many were so disillusioned that they flocked to Sanders' Movement. Sanders could have turned this Movement into a real force in American politics but he refused to do so. Maybe because of his chummy relationship with the Democratic Party leadership: Obama campaigned for him; he described Hillary as a friend of over 25 years; and Chuck Schumer wouldn't provide Democratic Party funding to any democratic challenger for Sanders Senate seat.

Sanders spit in their face of his Movement when Hillary-DNC collusion became known by supporting Hillary as Democratic candidate for President even after Hillary brought the disgraced Debby Wasserman-Shultz into a leadership position in her campaign!

Back to the faux populist leadership model. It consists of:

>> a candidate that makes populist appeals, with a grand over-arching vision;

>> a candidate that wins against the odds by taking on the establishment;

>> a crazy-opposition, which sees the candidate/President as unpatriotic and unworthy (Obama: the birthers; Trump: NeverTrump/Russian influence);

>> apologists: 11-dimensional chess, etc.

Circe's attacks on Trump have always been over-the-top but when criticism of Zionist influence devolves into claims of his being a Rothschild puppet then he has gone too far. This is a small step from anti-jewish, 'Protocol of Zion' hysteria which could discredit MoA as anti-semetic. Jews are not monolithic and many are disturbed by actions of Israel leadership. As Daniel notes @69, Jews "... may be the only population drowning in more and more effective propaganda than USAmericans."

In addition, the focus on Trump as evil ignores the role of Hillary and the Democrats. They also big supporters of Israel, yet they get a pass? And given that Hillary has been the pivot to the Presidency for both Obama and Trump ... and is loved by the establishment ... and both Obama and Trump follow the same faux populist leadership model... and the Trump family has been close to the Clinton's for years ... couldn't it be possible that Trump's election was a complete set-up?

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Note: I wrote about the 'faux populist' model of leadership on my blog over a year ago and I've mentioned it at MoA several times before.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 15 2018 1:11 utc | 82

How does it go? ... "not a cigarette paper's thickness between government and business" ... as usual.

Perhaps in current context it's hardly a cigarette paper between 'crooked Hillary' and 'crooked Trump'?


Posted by: imo | May 15 2018 1:12 utc | 83

@ dan | May 14, 2018 8:17:07 PM | 71

"Or, maybe, one day they might just ..."

One day your ATM will respond back "Access Denied!" and that your "social credit" score is no longer valid, or sufficient. That last automatic 'j-walk' fine debit to your account has tipped your balance into the red ... report to the nearest plantation office for work assignment immediately or also be charged with the full costs (plus overheads) of a warm body 'recovery' operation. 1984 was just the kiddy version of what the Global Deep State has in planning -- and Uncle Xi (for life) is all too ready to perfect the technology in his Confusion State 2.0.

Posted by: imo | May 15 2018 1:27 utc | 84

Correction: "it has gone too far" (instead of "he has gone too far")

Pardon the typos.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 15 2018 1:31 utc | 85


Yesterday, I forget which thread it was, you correctly pointed to a comment regarding Hillary and the reason she wasn't the Zionist choice that made no sense.

Today, I'm calling you out on this comment you wrote:

Now the whole world knows and can see what Trump wanted everyone to know and see. i.e. The bloodthirsty "Israelis" are completely, utterly insane. Trump gave them enough rope to hang themselves and they almost killed each other in the scramble to be first to shove their heads in the noose.

Do you really expect anyone even someone with half a brain to believe this? Trump is all in with Zionists, and you know it. What you're doing, rationalizing Trump this way on this issue; projecting such a deceptive interpretation of his actions, that perhaps is a strategy you've tried before, is beyond disingenuous; it's highly manipulative and I hope everyone sees right through it.

Posted by: Circe | May 15 2018 1:40 utc | 86

pessimist. Yes, that’s at best what I’m seeing with Yael Shir.

So, why is RT introducing her as an “Israeli Journalist” and providing her a worldwide platform to spread her hasbara?

Posted by: Daniel | May 15 2018 1:49 utc | 87

Jackrabbit @ 82

I’ve come to much the same conclusion as you. I guess one could have called me a “never HRCer” during the primaries and into the election. I saw her as “more of the same” in what was clearly becoming what I call “The Election of Rejection.” But even more so, I saw her as the most dangerous candidate in my lifetime with her threats against Russia (in addition to a long and bloody record, claiming that hacking is an act of war worthy of a military response, and calls to “obliterate” Iran terrified me).

At least Trump made some (often contradictory) claims to work with Russia and end “regime change” wars. But about the time of the Conventions, I started to look more deeply into Trump’s history, and realized that he was clearly wholly beholden to the supra-national bankster cabal that Circe refers to as “the Rothschilds.”

Dan and I (honest, not the same person) have posted links to this video(not the URL)

The creator was a Trump supporter, who didn’t start to see through the facade until after the election. He’s gotten a lot of grief from “fans” who are still Trumpsters, but though I don’t share much of his ideology, I greatly admire his integrity for following the facts where they lead.

Please take a half hour to watch it. If you want more published evidence, I can provide a great deal.

Posted by: Daniel | May 15 2018 1:51 utc | 88

Some might complain that I'm panning one 'conspiracy theory' and proposing another. My answer:

1) I don't have the time or the inclination to delve into Rothschild international conspiracies. They could be very true. I don't know. I think it is unnecessary to resort to that - and may well be a trap. Some will no doubt disagree (that's ok with me).

2) My concern is closer to home in terms of both time and distance. Zionism has warped US policies. It is part and parcel of a self-serving establishment that has wasted trillions.

3) Many Zionists are Christian. They many not be the leaders, but they are also a big part of the problem. As for myself: despite growing up Catholic, I have NO ATTACHMENT to any particular piece of rock on this planet.

4) I an suspicious of ANYONE pushing a certain line. And I am not immune to a failure to see thru establishment or Zionist plots. By the 2016 election I thought Trump was the "lesser evil". Now I believe that there was no real choice.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 15 2018 1:51 utc | 89

Daniel@87, lets see if they use her again, if it becomes a bad habit. RT has a lot of coverage from the Palestinian side. I think I heard BBC citing an RT stringer in Gaza this morning. It may be difficult for them to get live feed from inside Israel... or maybe they just got taken by a puffed up resume and a face.

Posted by: the pessimist | May 15 2018 1:58 utc | 90

I love the Zappa scenario. But if it becomes too expensive to maintain the charade, and all that's left is the wall, we should also look at the forces that made the charade to expensive to maintain, and ask if the wall is sufficient to withstand that force?


@40 dan

Thanks for that memoir. It touches the reality of all struggles, I would say

Posted by: Grieved | May 15 2018 2:00 utc | 91


Circe's attacks on Trump have always been over-the-top but when criticism of Zionist influence devolves into claims of his being a Rothschild puppet then he has gone too far.

LIAR. I never wrote that or mentioned Rothschild! If you're going to misquote me you'd better copy/paste the exact comment with the number, time and title of the thread.

Stop misrepresenting what I write and spinning it to justify yourself. Anyone who deceives with so many lies as Trump does has to be evil and evil is not exclusive to him. Hillary's actions regarding Libya and Syria were evil and I could go on regarding her but it would be O/T. You know nothing about what I think. You hate it when other's start to see through you so you try to throw shade on me to deflect.

FYI Trump's speech to AIPAC was enough proof that he's owned in full by Zionists.

Posted by: Circe | May 15 2018 2:01 utc | 92

Jackrabbit | May 14, 2018 9:51:41 PM | 89:

If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.

Posted by: Ian | May 15 2018 2:09 utc | 93


I already issued a correction @85, changing "he" to "it". That's because dan mentioned you but then provided a link to a video about Rothschild.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 15 2018 2:11 utc | 94


Every candidate sucks up to AIPAC.

Hillary wouldn't have been any different. The problem isn't any particular candidate/President, it's the system itself.

See Ian @93.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 15 2018 2:14 utc | 95

Daniel @88

Most people have a hard time believing in puppet master conspiracy theories. It seems wacky.

I understand that there are many relationships among the establishment and a certain pecking order but that is all difficult to explain, in a convincing way. Few will take the time to hear it out.

But it's also unnecessary. The massive corruption and mis-allocation of resources is enough of an indictment against our self-serving neoliberal establishment. And the Zionist leanings of the establishment are also clear - even more so with Syria and moving the embassy.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 15 2018 2:28 utc | 96

"..."The War Prayer" was written in 1905, and is believed to be a response to both the Spanish–American War and the subsequent Philippine–American War.[1] It was left unpublished by Mark Twain at his death in April 1910, largely due to pressure from his family, who feared that the story would be considered sacrilegious.....

The War Prayer. by Mark Twain

Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth into battle — be Thou near them! With them — in spirit — we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended in the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it —

For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimmage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet!

We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

Posted by: OJS | May 15 2018 2:35 utc | 97


bankster cabal that Circe refers to as “the Rothschilds.

I never made such a statement. Now that's not to say that I don't firmly believe that certain forces mostly Zionist helped to push Trump over the edge because Trump was even more aligned with the Zionist agenda than Hillary, regarding Iran and Jerusalem, and more vulnerable to blackmail and bribery. Although, I also agree with Jackrabbit on this: Hillary wouldn't have been any different. The problem isn't any particular candidate/President, it's the system itself. and Ian 93. The system is rigged by Zionists. Unfortunately, Americans either don't care or they're too stupid to see it.

A whole lot of their treasure (human and taxes) is spent on Zionism's geopolitical agenda. To add insult to that injury, Trump cut taxes permanently for the wealthiest Americans; so who's left to pay for the close to a trillion investment in the military?

Posted by: Circe | May 15 2018 2:53 utc | 98

@59 dan.. thanks for the link to blackstone's making connections with trump - rothchild and syria.. it's a good video that lays it out quite well... as for the circe/jackrabbit melodrama.. i could do without that, but i'm pretty sure i know what a drama queen looks like when i see one..

@ 96 jr.. if you haven't watched the video, it is a 1/2 well spent..

Posted by: james | May 15 2018 2:56 utc | 99

Posted by: Circe | May 14, 2018 9:40:03 PM | 86
(HW is beyond disingenuous; it's highly manipulative and I hope everyone sees right through it.)

Forgive me for declining your invitation to engage in what could become an acrimonious exchange. MoA allows people to express their opinions in isolation, without specific reference to other opinions. Everyone reading the comments is free to express opinions about other comments but many people are happy to express their own opinion and allow that opinion to compete on its merits, or lack thereof. I rarely feel the need to howl down opinions with which I disagree because it's safe to assume that every opinion is valid in the eyes of the person who expressed it.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 15 2018 2:57 utc | 100

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